Hopefully someone getting into sport will see this and snag that deal. I would've loved that option back in 2022, but I paid peak dollar for my Roscoe 7 then. While I don't want to see companies struggle or closing the door, I'm happy to see prices coming back down to reasonable levels again.
I own this bike its my HT trail ripper. I am anal about bikes I have been in the industry since the late 90s. I have owned sworks bikes, raced at the XC1 level, worked at a shop for 5 years , not flexing just want you to know I have been around before I say something. The Trek roscoe 8 is unbeatable for the money. I bought it with the intention of upgrading and I can't bring myself to spend a dollar on it. The brakes are great, tires are good and roll good for 2.6s, sram eagle drive train, as Matt said the wheels feel way out of the price range of this bike, the rock shox 35 actually has a very good feel and has great progression for the price, and the frame is far better than the FUSE which I owned and sold after getting the Roscoe 8. Buy this for $1600 get pedals and a bottle cage and ride it till it falls apart, its great and money well spent IMO ❤.
I recently looked into buying a more aggressive hardtail and considered the roscoe 8 for the longest time. Just the overall specs you get for your money is just incredible. But in the end I decided on purchasing a Cube Reaction TM Pro instead because of it's better fitting geometry. Mostly considered the Trek because of your vids btw. Thx for the effort put in!
Just get out there and have fun! I have noticed higher quality bikes do matter. My first two bikes were Walmart and a used bike and didn’t last a few rides! I have a Marlin 6 I upgraded quite a bit and it’s amazing what I put that bike through. Im saving for a trek slash now going to compare the real difference between a hard tail and full suspension.
Minivans are awesome. Best trade off between size, maneuverability, and interior space on the road. Yes, If you can drop the price from 1799 to 799, it was grossly overpriced. Commenter was absolutely correct. That is a 999 bike maybe a 1099 bike, not a 1799 bike, so 799 is a great discounted price.
I really think what still hurts GT is in the past it made people so mad that they sold out to Asia and everyone trashed talked them so bad the brand slipped, now all of them sold out and GT makes great bikes but they just never recovered from the talk. Now GT riders that stuck consider ourselves a brotherhood and welcome in new GT riders. That LTS suspension is the best ever made I believe.
I got this bike last year in December i was working at a bike shop and got it for exactly 1k built it up and everything couldn't be happier with my purchase. Its definitely made riding gnarly trails even more fun.
Prices are going back to where they were before the pandemic. $800~ish got you a one step above entry level hardtail in 2019. I bought a Giant Talon 3 back in 2019 for $550 to get back into mountain biking after not having ridden since the 90s and ended up putting a dropper on it and converting it to tubeless. Still have it though these days it just lives on my Wahoo trainer, I have a much nicer bike for riding trails these days.
I very much agree that we need sturdy, fun, reliable options at $799. I see some people wanting that to be the price for a high-end hardtail, but when you factor in components, there's not a chance in hell that comes out to a high end bike. High end would be XX or X0 Transmission (more than $799), dropper post, fox factory 32/24, and great wheels/hubs. Even with an alloy frame, that would be way above that number. I don't want my high end hardtail to cap at $799 because I know that ain't high end. I want reliable, fun options across a range of prices and then I get to pick what fits my budget. If you're not having fun at $799, I'm not sure you're having more fun paying more for a fancier hardtail. If you find your fun is limited by $799 capabilities, then you upgrade. We should buy what makes us smile and ignore what's beyond our means (or just save $$ for a while).
I have a Honda Odyssey that I picked up for 5k and 160 miles, and it is the best mountain bike vehicle ever. I put a big 6 bike Yakima rack on it, too, and it's amazing.
I was aiming Roscoe 8 but since there is a sale i bought 9 beacuse of you and let me tell you,no regrets at all .Here at my place i often see people ride R8...for the money you get high quality super lookin bike.That color on R8 is freakin good lookin.Components are great and you cant ask for more at that price range .Like my brother said first time lookin at the frame of roscoe 9.''That bike has a flow'' :).Cheers
I think you hit the nail on the head with this video. I truly believe that the majority of mountain-bikes are over price and they don't have to be. People just want a bike to ride and have fun on but the minute you start worrying about head angle and tapered head tube and the different specs of the bike you somehow lose the zeal for mountain biking because somewhere along the way it stops being fun. The price one pays for that level of fun is not worth it
Forget a mini van, if you wanna go the van way do a sprinter, or at least a ford transit. You can fit a mobile shop in a high back plus can sleep easily in it.
I bought a Trek Roscoe 8 at the sale price last month. Its been a phenomenal bike, one of the best purchases I've ever made. But that GT is an insane deal! I'm going to look into one for my dad.
Well it's a sale, and if they're able to put it on sale at that price, it shows how the regular price is a rip off. Stay away from those brands that can suddenly cut the price of their products by half or more, what kind of margins are they making? Where are they making these bikes? Who and how much are the people making these bikes being paid? Is the price the only thing? Of course price is important, but there are other things ot take into account. Anyway, there are many options out there, I certainly haven't tested them all. I don't know about other offers at this price point (the sale price that is), but I would say that at it's original (list) price, there are many other better offers. And as far as hardtails go, the Ragleys are some of the best. I personnaly ride the Mmmbop and boy is it fun. Ride on !
Even better than that bike is the Haro Saguaro. Hardtail with 140mm Marzocchi, NX drivetrain, dropper post, and good Kenda tires with tubeless setup out of the box. Got my Saguaro 2 on Veterans Canteen Service for 1100, they’re also on sale on Haro’s website for more but still discounted. The Saguaro 3 has the Rockshox TK35 air fork, cues drivetrain, tranzx dropper post, tektro gemini hydro brakes, wtb wheels and tubeless kenda setup and is on the Haro site for 1400 rn but could be had under 1k on the VCS website if you’re a veteran
I also feel like someone getting into the sport can get something so nice that is 15 years old. I just put together a killer Cannondale Flash for under $1000 that has the carbon frame with PBR lefty. The thing is a rocket even though it has 10x137 mm drop out spacing and an old 1X10 conversion. There’s also tons of parts on the classifieds that are dirt cheap for these older bikes.
Baught my first proper hardtail mtb. Trek roscoe 8. Amazing bike and spec for the price even in the UK. Thanks for the videos you made me make the decision on trek
Great content as always. One other suggestion I'll put out there for a budget hard tail is the Salsa Rangefinder line - in particular the Rangefinder Deore 12.
I just sold my FS frame and picked up a Banshee Paradox HT frame. All my components from the FS should swap over with no issues. I can't wait to get it built up. No more expensive maintenance . Back to simplicity.
I own a Trek Procaliber 6 and I am very happy with it. Does everything what I want it to do, is my commuter and my cx bike and very comfy. Maybe I will buy a used enduro bike to have an alternative. I don't see a reason to buy a new one, I don't care about scratches. Better if they are already there, then I don't get annoyed at myself :D
Minivans have rocked since the mid 80s, just the image turned off too many people. Too bad, most functional vehicle type alongside a pickup truck. as for bike, I think the Poseidon Norton deserves a shout-out. I bought a M sized bike and an L sized frame for the cottage visitors who didn't bring along a bike. Just enough and room to grow.
@@stephanematis Wish there were options like estate wagons! The Outback was only remaining one to be called as one, but nowadays they are another crossovers on the road, along with its smaller brother Crosstrek. And I would argue work vans like Sprinter or Ford Transit are ideal vehicle for carrying bikes, more than a pickup truck.
The GT is gorgeous and definitely a good deal at that price. I recently test rode a similarly discounted GT with my wife while we were bike shopping for her. My thought was that such a significant discount, while great for the consumer, indicated something is not right for GT that they're having shops discount them that much. Maybe they were one of the companies that way overproduced as the COVID boom was declining and now have an excess of bikes they need to sell?
Meh. There are better deals out there nowadays. For $1999 you can get a Timberjack with better components and a z2 fork. You can get the lowest spec'd cannondale habit ht for close to a grand, and if you're mechanically inclined, that leaves you plenty left over to upgrade and customize.
The reason the prices are so low is that the industry has huge overstock issues and they are dumping product well below cost just to generate cash flow to stay in business. They can’t just hold the stock and sell it at regular price in a year to two because warehouse space is expensive and they have new orders coming that they committed to in 6 months. And if they cancel those with the factory they lose their business relationship with them. It’s a very bad spot for the industry that is just trying to stay afloat. It is however, a good time to buy a bike though.
I still use my Marlin 6 as main rig even ive builded full carbon XC rocket with Reba/GX/MT400 AND sold it year later since Marlin is so much more comfortable love that bike for just being reliable with 2,4 tires no tubeless coil 120mm fork bike weigh a ton but its fantastic! For road/shopping/commute i have '94 steel road frame setup as single speed with budget parts both combined are less than 1k$, wish Trek made Marlin full sus with coil coz i do not care about taper HT or TAxle to be completely honest ;D
for me I got a deal for marlin 7 gen 3 2024 edition for 1000$ flat with taxes brand new from a shop while the bike you show in the vid is prob better but for me the marlin 7 has been holding up pretty well
Canyon grand Canyon 6 size XL is currently on sale, decathlon has some budget bikes in XL too but availability is spotty, there's not a lot of cheap bikes for huge guys 😂
You got that beard looking good dude! But I do think there are better bikes for the money. For instance you can usually pick up a full suspension on sale that has all those features at $2,000. The full suspension will keep you riding for longer periods.
I built my GT aggressor pro to a similar spec as the zaskar and i couldnt do it for that price not even close, super deal on that GT... much better bike then ppl think
I think you need to review bikes at their full price because not everyone is going to get the deal of the sale price. Yeah, your bike shop sells it at that price, but GT website it's 1k. No offense but I feel like every bike you ride you say is the best bike. If you want to inform people of the best bang for your buck, you should categorize bikes specifically what they are. IE: full suspension, hard tail, gravel etc... review them at full price and what you get for that price. I love your videos but sometimes feel you mislead people with information. Like I said, no offense not trying to diss you just feel like info could be better. 👍🏼
Buy once cry once. I get what you’re saying about these cheaper bikes, but more features for the money isn’t necessarily better when it comes to mountain biking. Cheap parts will break and you will end up upgrading anyway. I started out on what I thought was a lot of bang for the buck but turned out everything started to go wrong to the point I was wishing I just paid more and got a better one form the beginning.
I've been looking at the Roscoe 7 for the past couple of years but we're watching our money. Meanwhile I still have my old 26er Trek Alpha 4900 like Seth used to ride and thinking off working on it myself to get it back on the trails. No upgradess at first, just new tubes and a bottom bracket.
Thank you so much for this amazing video! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: I have a SafePal wallet with USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). Could you explain how to move them to Binance?
Ok if you’re car cost more then your bike you are not a true Colorado Mnt biker. Seriously you have to balance cost and at a bike shop vrs online . Bikes have and are over priced. If you are buying from a small manufacturer like Canfield it’s worth it! But if you are a free that is just starting out then finding what is affordable and on a budget. Online can be more affordable. By accessory’s and maintenance from the local shop. I personally own a Guerrilla Gravity Smash and a Propain Tynee . Keep up the good work on promoting affordable bikes.
Matty i am considering buying a mountain bike i only want to own one mountain bike i know from watch your videos that you tested the x caliber 8 and the roscoe 8 could you please help me decide which is the better one to buy they both dropped in price and i am having a really hard time deciding PLEASE HELP ME
The primo AF is 2250. I wouldn’t pay 1500 for a hardtail. No disrespect hardtail bros. From where I stand, at that price you’re too close to top of the line to not go all they way.
yo Matty u got great vids and I know you gotta get paid but the shilling out for these stores to get their low-end bike stock inventory reduced is getting old. You sound like a cheap car salesman now... That whole bike is trash and you know it...
I’m not going to be the whole hung ho, man card, he man whatever….but I agree with others - get a pickup truck. Even if a mid-sized because pickups are so very versatile.
I picked up a used Chevy traverse and I LOVE IT! If I’m just hauling one bike I can keep my gear and bike protected from elements. If my son and I are going out of town with the bikes then one of the bikes has to go in the rack. Get whatever vehicle suits your needs man. No need to get a truck if you aren’t gonna use it for more than hurling a bike. A mini van is darn near perfect for bike hauling
Supply vs demand. No one sells bikes at cost if people buy more the price will go up to match demand. It’s coming down now because less people are purchasing. They have to make money to pay for business. Being upset that something isn’t on you price range is dumb. If you don’t like the price then don’t buy.
The only good thing is the frame. The fork is garbage 70$ fork, cheap brakes, cheap gears. I think in total even on sale its really high price. Marin san quantine 2. Orbea lauffy and others are beter spec or same and lower price
I like the fork. The stock spring was too stiff, I was able to replace it with a softer spring and it’s perfect for what I need it for. I spent $50 on a spring as opposed to $500 or more on a fork plus installation (for those not willing to cut to size and remove the crown race). IMO The Rockshox 35 Silver R is better than a suntour XC spring fork.
People can still afford to buy vehicles in America?! Kinda joking, kinda not! The "cost of living crisis" eg, "our" Government spending all of our taxes on fighting their, no doubt illegal, war in Ukraine, has left the British public earning average money, completely broke like never before! Liking the GT though, nice looking machine dude, see what you mean.
Brother don’t get a minivan. Buy a TRUCK. Literally the mountain bikers most popular vehicles. Dude don’t you live in Colorado?? 4x4s and trucks are king out there👑
Minivan protects bikes from elements. Why does he need a pickup if it fits inside a minivan? Meanwhile most pickups and jeeps in America are pavement princesses hauling Costco groceries 99% of the time.
@@drill_fiend1097 lmao! Bro your definitely a snowflake! Minivans are for soccer moms. Trucks are for Men. But besides the obvious trucks are wayyyy more utilitarian then a mini van! Not to mention they come in 4x4s, dude you obviously drive a Prius. Be quiet.
Just get out there and have fun! I have noticed higher quality bikes do matter. My first two bikes were Walmart and a used bike and didn’t last a few rides! I have a Marlin 6 I upgraded quite a bit and it’s amazing what I put that bike through. Im saving for a trek slash now going to compare the real difference between a hard tail and full suspension.
Love this statement! High quality is the biggest factor for buying an entry-level mountain bike. $400 for a bike that breaks after a few rides is a much worse investment than a solid entry level hardtail from a reputable company at twice the price
Hopefully someone getting into sport will see this and snag that deal. I would've loved that option back in 2022, but I paid peak dollar for my Roscoe 7 then. While I don't want to see companies struggle or closing the door, I'm happy to see prices coming back down to reasonable levels again.
GT has a lot of nostalgia for me. My GT with IDrive was my favorite bike growing up.
I had a lime green one. Best cornering bike I ever rode.
I own this bike its my HT trail ripper. I am anal about bikes I have been in the industry since the late 90s. I have owned sworks bikes, raced at the XC1 level, worked at a shop for 5 years , not flexing just want you to know I have been around before I say something. The Trek roscoe 8 is unbeatable for the money. I bought it with the intention of upgrading and I can't bring myself to spend a dollar on it. The brakes are great, tires are good and roll good for 2.6s, sram eagle drive train, as Matt said the wheels feel way out of the price range of this bike, the rock shox 35 actually has a very good feel and has great progression for the price, and the frame is far better than the FUSE which I owned and sold after getting the Roscoe 8. Buy this for $1600 get pedals and a bottle cage and ride it till it falls apart, its great and money well spent IMO ❤.
I recently looked into buying a more aggressive hardtail and considered the roscoe 8 for the longest time. Just the overall specs you get for your money is just incredible. But in the end I decided on purchasing a Cube Reaction TM Pro instead because of it's better fitting geometry. Mostly considered the Trek because of your vids btw. Thx for the effort put in!
Sometimes ignorance is bliss, is not a bad thing especially when it comes to hobbies lol!!!!! All that matters is that you have fun
Just get out there and have fun! I have noticed higher quality bikes do matter. My first two bikes were Walmart and a used bike and didn’t last a few rides!
I have a Marlin 6 I upgraded quite a bit and it’s amazing what I put that bike through.
Im saving for a trek slash now going to compare the real difference between a hard tail and full suspension.
Minivans are awesome. Best trade off between size, maneuverability, and interior space on the road.
Yes, If you can drop the price from 1799 to 799, it was grossly overpriced. Commenter was absolutely correct. That is a 999 bike maybe a 1099 bike, not a 1799 bike, so 799 is a great discounted price.
He's an idiot
@@zimmejoc lmao🤣
I really think what still hurts GT is in the past it made people so mad that they sold out to Asia and everyone trashed talked them so bad the brand slipped, now all of them sold out and GT makes great bikes but they just never recovered from the talk. Now GT riders that stuck consider ourselves a brotherhood and welcome in new GT riders. That LTS suspension is the best ever made I believe.
at 799 they're (Pon) still making money- just proves how greeeeed fueled their core during covid. nice bike- stay Active Matty
I got this bike last year in December i was working at a bike shop and got it for exactly 1k built it up and everything couldn't be happier with my purchase. Its definitely made riding gnarly trails even more fun.
Prices are going back to where they were before the pandemic. $800~ish got you a one step above entry level hardtail in 2019. I bought a Giant Talon 3 back in 2019 for $550 to get back into mountain biking after not having ridden since the 90s and ended up putting a dropper on it and converting it to tubeless. Still have it though these days it just lives on my Wahoo trainer, I have a much nicer bike for riding trails these days.
I very much agree that we need sturdy, fun, reliable options at $799. I see some people wanting that to be the price for a high-end hardtail, but when you factor in components, there's not a chance in hell that comes out to a high end bike. High end would be XX or X0 Transmission (more than $799), dropper post, fox factory 32/24, and great wheels/hubs. Even with an alloy frame, that would be way above that number.
I don't want my high end hardtail to cap at $799 because I know that ain't high end. I want reliable, fun options across a range of prices and then I get to pick what fits my budget. If you're not having fun at $799, I'm not sure you're having more fun paying more for a fancier hardtail. If you find your fun is limited by $799 capabilities, then you upgrade. We should buy what makes us smile and ignore what's beyond our means (or just save $$ for a while).
I have a Honda Odyssey that I picked up for 5k and 160 miles, and it is the best mountain bike vehicle ever. I put a big 6 bike Yakima rack on it, too, and it's amazing.
another low life
I rocked one of those for over 10 years. It went from a kid carrier to a bike and hardware hauler that smelled like ketchup. I miss my Honda Oddity.
@@kwaktak YOU DIDNT LEARN WELL ENOUGH TO NOT FEAR EVERYTHING, GOOD YOU QUIT
I agree with Matty Active. I have owned the Trek Roscoe 8 for two months now, having paid $1,599. It is amazing!
I was aiming Roscoe 8 but since there is a sale i bought 9 beacuse of you and let me tell you,no regrets at all .Here at my place i often see people ride R8...for the money you get high quality super lookin bike.That color on R8 is freakin good lookin.Components are great and you cant ask for more at that price range .Like my brother said first time lookin at the frame of roscoe 9.''That bike has a flow'' :).Cheers
I think you hit the nail on the head with this video. I truly believe that the majority of mountain-bikes are over price and they don't have to be. People just want a bike to ride and have fun on but the minute you start worrying about head angle and tapered head tube and the different specs of the bike you somehow lose the zeal for mountain biking because somewhere along the way it stops being fun. The price one pays for that level of fun is not worth it
I like how the color is the same as some of the 90 GT MTBs
I purchased the gt for my boy because of your other video. It is a really nice bike. He loves it.
Nice! I really appreciate you watching my videos and tell him I said congratulations!
Forget a mini van, if you wanna go the van way do a sprinter, or at least a ford transit. You can fit a mobile shop in a high back plus can sleep easily in it.
Yep I've been looking at Ford Transits and RAM Promasters. I want to load my bikes standing up without taking wheels off.
The Polygon seems like a good budget option too.
The cool thing is, bikes online now sells GT bikes. Not sure if this bike is on there though
@@MattyActive Looks like the only GT hardtail they have listed is a gravel bike. Everything else is really squishy and more expensive.
@@mikej1348 Polygon is rad. They sold di2 carbon roadbike for $2k (1999). Definitely this era’s Giant.
I bought a Trek Roscoe 8 at the sale price last month. Its been a phenomenal bike, one of the best purchases I've ever made. But that GT is an insane deal! I'm going to look into one for my dad.
That’s my bike! Trek Roscoe 8!!!
State bike all road is my go to bike. Flat bar with suspension fork....can't beat it
Well it's a sale, and if they're able to put it on sale at that price, it shows how the regular price is a rip off. Stay away from those brands that can suddenly cut the price of their products by half or more, what kind of margins are they making? Where are they making these bikes? Who and how much are the people making these bikes being paid? Is the price the only thing? Of course price is important, but there are other things ot take into account. Anyway, there are many options out there, I certainly haven't tested them all. I don't know about other offers at this price point (the sale price that is), but I would say that at it's original (list) price, there are many other better offers. And as far as hardtails go, the Ragleys are some of the best. I personnaly ride the Mmmbop and boy is it fun. Ride on !
Even better than that bike is the Haro Saguaro. Hardtail with 140mm Marzocchi, NX drivetrain, dropper post, and good Kenda tires with tubeless setup out of the box. Got my Saguaro 2 on Veterans Canteen Service for 1100, they’re also on sale on Haro’s website for more but still discounted. The Saguaro 3 has the Rockshox TK35 air fork, cues drivetrain, tranzx dropper post, tektro gemini hydro brakes, wtb wheels and tubeless kenda setup and is on the Haro site for 1400 rn but could be had under 1k on the VCS website if you’re a veteran
I also feel like someone getting into the sport can get something so nice that is 15 years old. I just put together a killer Cannondale Flash for under $1000 that has the carbon frame with PBR lefty. The thing is a rocket even though it has 10x137 mm drop out spacing and an old 1X10 conversion. There’s also tons of parts on the classifieds that are dirt cheap for these older bikes.
Baught my first proper hardtail mtb. Trek roscoe 8. Amazing bike and spec for the price even in the UK. Thanks for the videos you made me make the decision on trek
Great content as always. One other suggestion I'll put out there for a budget hard tail is the Salsa Rangefinder line - in particular the Rangefinder Deore 12.
I believe that's a qr frame, though. Yes, qr is fine, but it's an older standard, and replacements or upgrades are harder to find.
I just sold my FS frame and picked up a Banshee Paradox HT frame. All my components from the FS should swap over with no issues. I can't wait to get it built up. No more expensive maintenance . Back to simplicity.
I own a Trek Procaliber 6 and I am very happy with it. Does everything what I want it to do, is my commuter and my cx bike and very comfy. Maybe I will buy a used enduro bike to have an alternative. I don't see a reason to buy a new one, I don't care about scratches. Better if they are already there, then I don't get annoyed at myself :D
The new calibre bossnut full sus bike is definitely worth looking at.
Does it ship to America?
@LaurentiusTriarius apologies a am not sure. Hopefully they do.
It's great that there are more decent options out there in that under $1500 range!
Minivans have rocked since the mid 80s, just the image turned off too many people. Too bad, most functional vehicle type alongside a pickup truck.
as for bike, I think the Poseidon Norton deserves a shout-out. I bought a M sized bike and an L sized frame for the cottage visitors who didn't bring along a bike. Just enough and room to grow.
@@stephanematis Wish there were options like estate wagons! The Outback was only remaining one to be called as one, but nowadays they are another crossovers on the road, along with its smaller brother Crosstrek. And I would argue work vans like Sprinter or Ford Transit are ideal vehicle for carrying bikes, more than a pickup truck.
@@drill_fiend1097 I would argue hell no, it’s not.
Great video! That GT bike definitely a sick first MTB at this price range
The GT is gorgeous and definitely a good deal at that price. I recently test rode a similarly discounted GT with my wife while we were bike shopping for her. My thought was that such a significant discount, while great for the consumer, indicated something is not right for GT that they're having shops discount them that much. Maybe they were one of the companies that way overproduced as the COVID boom was declining and now have an excess of bikes they need to sell?
Unless you have or plan to have kids I feel like a sprinter van is much better option.
In Canada, it is $1140 American dollars.
Salsa has some insane deals 2200 for a 6 inch carbon bike
Meh. There are better deals out there nowadays. For $1999 you can get a Timberjack with better components and a z2 fork. You can get the lowest spec'd cannondale habit ht for close to a grand, and if you're mechanically inclined, that leaves you plenty left over to upgrade and customize.
Got a Roscoe 8 on the sale price as my first adult mountain bike now that I’m getting back into it. Been having a blast. Already bent my derailer lol
I love that you’re getting back into riding! Sounds like you’re getting your money’s worth haha
@ definitely! It’s the most fun and most active thing I’ve done since highschool, early 30s now. Been having an absolute blast
Love my Roscoe 8. Ride it more often than my full sus.
The reason the prices are so low is that the industry has huge overstock issues and they are dumping product well below cost just to generate cash flow to stay in business. They can’t just hold the stock and sell it at regular price in a year to two because warehouse space is expensive and they have new orders coming that they committed to in 6 months. And if they cancel those with the factory they lose their business relationship with them. It’s a very bad spot for the industry that is just trying to stay afloat. It is however, a good time to buy a bike though.
I still use my Marlin 6 as main rig even ive builded full carbon XC rocket with Reba/GX/MT400 AND sold it year later since Marlin is so much more comfortable love that bike for just being reliable with 2,4 tires no tubeless coil 120mm fork bike weigh a ton but its fantastic!
For road/shopping/commute i have '94 steel road frame setup as single speed with budget parts both combined are less than 1k$, wish Trek made Marlin full sus with coil coz i do not care about taper HT or TAxle to be completely honest ;D
That’s so awesome! I respect that
I have 60mm bars and they rock mate Spank spoons I have the Roscoe 8 and Ive specked it up as well
I got a 2021 trek Marlin 6 in Alpine Blue
Thanks
Love my Roscoe 8.
for me I got a deal for marlin 7 gen 3 2024 edition for 1000$ flat with taxes brand new from a shop while the bike you show in the vid is prob better but for me the marlin 7 has been holding up pretty well
What is the best value budget gravel bike for a rider too tall for the Ozark Trail?
I’m not sure about that one but I think this next version of the park trail will have a size Large option
Canyon grand Canyon 6 size XL is currently on sale, decathlon has some budget bikes in XL too but availability is spotty, there's not a lot of cheap bikes for huge guys 😂
You got that beard looking good dude! But I do think there are better bikes for the money. For instance you can usually pick up a full suspension on sale that has all those features at $2,000. The full suspension will keep you riding for longer periods.
I built my GT aggressor pro to a similar spec as the zaskar and i couldnt do it for that price not even close, super deal on that GT... much better bike then ppl think
Where are you finding that price on the GT Zaskar elite? It's $990 on their site, and local bike shops have not discounted it that much.
It’s at my local bike shop, I wonder if you can refer to my bike shop price and price match 😅
I think you need to review bikes at their full price because not everyone is going to get the deal of the sale price. Yeah, your bike shop sells it at that price, but GT website it's 1k. No offense but I feel like every bike you ride you say is the best bike. If you want to inform people of the best bang for your buck, you should categorize bikes specifically what they are. IE: full suspension, hard tail, gravel etc... review them at full price and what you get for that price. I love your videos but sometimes feel you mislead people with information. Like I said, no offense not trying to diss you just feel like info could be better. 👍🏼
I tried to get into MTB's, but I hate how they feel. Tried 2 of them and was greatly unimpressed with both. Gravel bikes FTW!!!
Your just not doing the right mountain biking if you don’t like the way they feel
I luv my Roscoe 8!
Buy once cry once. I get what you’re saying about these cheaper bikes, but more features for the money isn’t necessarily better when it comes to mountain biking. Cheap parts will break and you will end up upgrading anyway. I started out on what I thought was a lot of bang for the buck but turned out everything started to go wrong to the point I was wishing I just paid more and got a better one form the beginning.
Do you have any experience with Cannondale habit ht? There isn't many reviews on it. Thanks in advance
I don’t but I’m planning to try and get one out on the trail for a video! Just have to find a shop who has one
I have habit ht and love it! I fitted 29x2.80 tires to ad comfort.
Have you taking a look to the NS eccentric ALu, it is an impressive bike for under $1300
and the procaliber 8? It's good value for money?
No thru axle on the rear. They can keep it. You cant upgrade the rear with modern components. If they had that I’d 100% support this bike.
Pipe cutter at harbor freight, easy
That zaskar says 990 in my area
Bring back 26!!!
A 26er would be easier to unload from that minivan.
I've been looking at the Roscoe 7 for the past couple of years but we're watching our money. Meanwhile I still have my old 26er Trek Alpha 4900 like Seth used to ride and thinking off working on it myself to get it back on the trails. No upgradess at first, just new tubes and a bottom bracket.
I paid $2300 for my Roscoe 8 2 yrs ago. Great bike. Oh well..
just got a 2021 Marline 6, not one scratch on it, for 350? I am also new to MTB!
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Ok if you’re car cost more then your bike you are not a true Colorado Mnt biker. Seriously you have to balance cost and at a bike shop vrs online . Bikes have and are over priced. If you are buying from a small manufacturer like Canfield it’s worth it! But if you are a free that is just starting out then finding what is affordable and on a budget. Online can be more affordable. By accessory’s and maintenance from the local shop. I personally own a Guerrilla Gravity Smash and a Propain Tynee . Keep up the good work on promoting affordable bikes.
Get a full size mercedes sprinter van with 4x4
And about the minivan.....best vehicle ever! 20yrs owning multiple trucks and my minivan is more versatile 🤣🤣
@@jlmercado76 lmao. Dude stop lying!🤣
Matty i am considering buying a mountain bike i only want to own one mountain bike i know from watch your videos that you tested the x caliber 8 and the roscoe 8 could you please help me decide which is the better one to buy they both dropped in price and i am having a really hard time deciding PLEASE HELP ME
Is that PNW handlebar ?
The primo AF is 2250. I wouldn’t pay 1500 for a hardtail. No disrespect hardtail bros. From where I stand, at that price you’re too close to top of the line to not go all they way.
yo Matty u got great vids and I know you gotta get paid but the shilling out for these stores to get their low-end bike stock inventory reduced is getting old. You sound like a cheap car salesman now... That whole bike is trash and you know it...
I’m not going to be the whole hung ho, man card, he man whatever….but I agree with others - get a pickup truck. Even if a mid-sized because pickups are so very versatile.
I picked up a used Chevy traverse and I LOVE IT! If I’m just hauling one bike I can keep my gear and bike protected from elements. If my son and I are going out of town with the bikes then one of the bikes has to go in the rack.
Get whatever vehicle suits your needs man. No need to get a truck if you aren’t gonna use it for more than hurling a bike. A mini van is darn near perfect for bike hauling
Really? take a look at a Marin San Quentin 2
Supply vs demand. No one sells bikes at cost if people buy more the price will go up to match demand. It’s coming down now because less people are purchasing. They have to make money to pay for business. Being upset that something isn’t on you price range is dumb. If you don’t like the price then don’t buy.
Too bad it's a 29er. Hardtails are meant for playing, need more 27.5 sizes...
Is the zaskar a better bike than the Roscoe 8?….NO. Is the zaskar a better deal?..at $799 yes. At normal retail price? No
Yew!
I had that bike, I sold it, there are so many better options out there I don’t know why you obsess over these
The comment is either true or they are making a loss on them
The spec is so low why you call this high quality? Just because the frame?
High quality meaning you get a lot of bike for the price. Not really any corners being cut at that price
The only good thing is the frame. The fork is garbage 70$ fork, cheap brakes, cheap gears. I think in total even on sale its really high price. Marin san quantine 2. Orbea lauffy and others are beter spec or same and lower price
I like the fork. The stock spring was too stiff, I was able to replace it with a softer spring and it’s perfect for what I need it for. I spent $50 on a spring as opposed to $500 or more on a fork plus installation (for those not willing to cut to size and remove the crown race). IMO The Rockshox 35 Silver R is better than a suntour XC spring fork.
@@skinnyboy400 i am not saying its a bad fork. its just cheap fork
dude youre talking about a 4 year difference of course prices and build levels change.
Bikes will get cheaper. Companies are going out of business since they cant sell bikes inflated prices.
People can still afford to buy vehicles in America?!
Kinda joking, kinda not!
The "cost of living crisis" eg, "our" Government spending all of our taxes on fighting their, no doubt illegal, war in Ukraine, has left the British public earning average money, completely broke like never before!
Liking the GT though, nice looking machine dude, see what you mean.
bro i can buy a gt sensor full sus for 1400 right not this shit trek is not a deal and never will be bc trek and deal do not go in the same sentence.
bro buy a bike rack
Brother don’t get a minivan. Buy a TRUCK. Literally the mountain bikers most popular vehicles. Dude don’t you live in Colorado?? 4x4s and trucks are king out there👑
Trucks are more versatile and easier to use for sure
Minivan protects bikes from elements. Why does he need a pickup if it fits inside a minivan? Meanwhile most pickups and jeeps in America are pavement princesses hauling Costco groceries 99% of the time.
@@drill_fiend1097 lmao! Bro your definitely a snowflake! Minivans are for soccer moms. Trucks are for Men. But besides the obvious trucks are wayyyy more utilitarian then a mini van! Not to mention they come in 4x4s, dude you obviously drive a Prius. Be quiet.
Minivans more gas cost friendly. May hurt your dating prospects though.
@ 🤣😂🌈
Is boost in the rear?
It's a true statement, and it's price gouging at its finest. 🤝🏾🇺🇸💪🏾🫡
Just get out there and have fun! I have noticed higher quality bikes do matter. My first two bikes were Walmart and a used bike and didn’t last a few rides!
I have a Marlin 6 I upgraded quite a bit and it’s amazing what I put that bike through.
Im saving for a trek slash now going to compare the real difference between a hard tail and full suspension.
Love this statement! High quality is the biggest factor for buying an entry-level mountain bike. $400 for a bike that breaks after a few rides is a much worse investment than a solid entry level hardtail from a reputable company at twice the price