Ford Transit Custom - Non Start - No Communications - Can Bus Diagnosis
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- 2017 Ford Transit Custom 2.0 Ecoblue with a non start ,no dash display and no
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EXCELLENT work, this sort of diligence would make an owner of a vehicle with problems transport it to a good garage and even wait if that garage is busy knowing its in good hands 🙌
That's one of those pain in the arse jobs , where you wake up in the night at home thinking I know what's wrong , I am going into work now , when the wife says it 3am , go tomorrow, dedication on that job , no towel thrown in , good job done 👍👍
i've got one of those type of jobs on the go currently...lol
Nice fix. Man you have patience a lot of garages would have walked away. Well done .
Thanks, correct wiring diagram helped fix this one
I have commented on this video before but when it popped up I just had to watch it again. And I’m still amazed at how you found that Steve, brilliant work & commitment coming in on your own time to resolve this issue 👏👏👏👍
Great find hope you were rewarded well ££££... . Dealer would have chucked all sorts of parts at this fault.
Errmm, I'm a dealer tech ..lol Unfortunately the customer will feel it shouldn't have failed and that I'm expected to fix it. So it's just another job, onto the next when it comes in.
It's about time manufacturer's started to protect those wiring harnesses more.
Hi there. Thanks to you, my daughter, who is brand new, found this subject. She works at a dealership Ford Copenhagen. The error was found after one day's work, the next day, after 10 minutes, the error was found, thanks to you.
wow thats awesome!!! thanks
Wow true professional at work ! Whish I had your expertise in my one man garage, just don't have the time or knowledge well done and patience paid off
Brilliant find..thats cars for you bang the a post and the faults at the other end of the van
Great content! Thanks for showing your thoughts on which ”route” to go during the diagnosis. Please keep doing that.
now is it me that most of your videos are of ford newish models do you deal with other makes of cars or just ford at your place. great videos people need to watch
I worked in a Ford dealer. I've since left and work at a place strict on phone/camera use, so for the moment the videos won't be forthcoming
Well done Steve. I would have put stupid hours into that fault.. before it would have been found.. just shows the importance of having access to manufacture information. Again well done and a great video well put together..
That's an awsome find! Great Job!
Thanks Dan, always a pleasure to have you drop by
You must have the patience of a saint Steve. Could it have been the shock loading of when that Pterodactyl shat on the bonnet that moved the wiring harness 😜😂😂
Yes it was a hefty deposit.......We had an apprentice once, but we sent him to the shop, heard a commotion with birds and never saw him again?
SY Diagnostics 😂😂😂
Good Friday night, and I've just gobbled down a decent portion of coronation chicken, complete with Pitta bread . Got to wait a while for afters . Whilst waiting, I've decided to log onto SY Diagnostics for a masterclass . SY diagnostics - bring on the Geek talk . Pud was ready half way through and so I didn't to the end, but I caught something about a spilt fizzy drink on the dash, and I am surmising that the Phosphoric acid (or what ever ) in the drink was to blame for the problem. There's no telling what havoc could have been wreaked with a can of Iron Bru !
As the motor car has greatly increased in complexity - so to, the ingenuity required to get to the bottom of faults and breakdowns.
😂
I'm afraid it wasn't the fizzy drink.... Nor was it Mrs White with the candlestick in the library
@@SYDiagnostics I jumped the gun , got ahead of myself - trying to be smart . I will log onto the second half, tomorrow - when the effects of the Coronation chicken and the Rioja have subsided
Honestly great job. I would have had a tough time going farther back after the A pillar cover changed the signal.
Great tip on the use of the bob
Excellent work, it all takes time & it’s easy get lost in the complexities of it all. But well done on that find 👍
Brilliant, well done!!
i have a similar issue with my 2.2 eu5 intermitant dash warning lights there for a while the gone again and then back over a few days then maybe good for a week, dash ok and vehicle runs ok
Awesome diagnostic process really was a needle in haystack.
Many thanks for sharing your talents, always enjoy your videos.
Keep them coming Steve 👍
Thanks Lawson
nice 1 SY , That was boss , can't help thinking the customer maybe a little suspicious when charged for a 5 hour diag . thanks john
because the fix wasnt a 20 min fix like the video was. There was time to strip items and test items plus open time to view diagrams etc....the job was warranty so customer isnt paying
Great detective diag process , thanks for sharing it
Oo ... very nice diagnostic. That would be a very hard find, at least for me !!!
Thanks for sharing, and thanks for teaching us the correct diagnostic steps
Thanks for showing a true process and all the dead ends it lead you merry dance but you were determined to beat it Well done! Ive got one right now that is saying “immobilser active see hand book” and on live data the key is “not present “ 2014 model also a dtc “battery relay B closed” and another “battery relay B open” lots of green verdigree on the pins in the bcm that go to the key reader but the cables appear to be good - no resistance. So ive popped open the BCM and someone has already carried out repairs to the board and it has been ok for about a year under the present owner but I wonder if some of the fuse pins are “dry”
Ninja level skills
A GREAT diagnostic video. And a nice production effort with the video. Thank you for sharing.
great vid loved it i have a 15plate with the same fault on the parking sensor. i connected my cheap computer to it and its coming up as rear sounder?
Cool! That was a needle in a haystack, Steve!
Thanks Ivan, it's great to have you here
I had very similar symptoms with my custom. A YT vid pointed me to the 3 earth connections which bolt to the body underneath the left head light. The earth's can have poor continuity. Cleaning, lubing and reconnecting the earth's can help. Nice work on your senario though!
Fantastic diagnostic strategy Steve. Looking forward to the next case 👍
Great diagnostic process and great diagnosis!
Keep them coming 👍🏻
There's one thing I can't understand though, and that's why you don't have at least 500,000 subscribers with your content.
50,000 would be nice, i don't know about 500k lol
I have a problem with my 2.2 2014 custom. Sometimes starts, sometimes doesn't give me ignition lights, sometimes the clocks don't even light up on door opening. Radio/interior lights/hazards etc always work. Very intermittent. Worried it could be bcm but think it's more likely to be a short somewhere like in video. Good job, wish me luck 😮
Very difficult diag. Awesome diagnostics. Cheers.
Great work, well impressed :) the whole story shows that great technology still needs the support of common sense. Rubber grommet (5p worth);on the hole where the harness passes through the strut or more resilient sleeve on the loom added by Ford designer at the drawing desk would probably save more than few break downs. Great investigative work, very educating. I just wonder what is going to happen to the world when our generation of people who are used to putting effort and passion into whatever they do dies out ;), well done, mate!!!
Great find .I work as a ford technician. And on these things all day I be looking out for that if I get the same problems. Ford has really gone down the pan there wiring looms are terrible .
Brilliant detective work
Wow, what a great vid :-) Loved the explanation on gateway.
Good diagnostic there.Found you thru Luis from LM repairs.Keep up you make a good job.
Many thanks for the comment, has Luis mentioned me? If so I must thank him...
Brilliant video and diag. Thanks very much.
That’s a great find and a real head scratcher ...thanks for sharing 👍
very impressive find Steve
Now I'm clear about gateway
Top drawer diagnosis
great case study. thanks
Great video Steve. Awesome find and a very well put together video.
Thanks Glenn, I didnt know how it would work out as a lot of the time i couldn't capture the issues on video plus iv'e been on/off it for 2 weeks
Cheers Steve great content many thanks Sandy
Thanks Sandy, I need to catch up on yours as i've seen you have a few new videos
Good find we done
Great Job man!!! I can learn alot from this guy.. Thank you!!
What a ffing nightmare. Excellent find.
you need a pay rise mate. most machanics would have give up long before. lol
The "book" stops with me, If I don't fix it then nobody else can where I am
Great diag Steve. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing! 👍
Usual top work , clear concise and to the point. Thanks for sharing Sir👍
Thanks 👍
Brilliant work, Great job, thanks for sharing your skills.
Excellent work my friend; As my GRAND mother told me as a child; as she watched me building model cars you have patience of a SAINT which has carried on to my adult life.and so do you my friend. Iam a 32 yr master Tec.. I felt your pain for a while but as I said a great job >aka cousin Vinny >IE jhackme
Thank you for your comment, its always nice to read comments from fellow techs who appreciate what goes into diagnosing and fixing modern vehicles
Excellent job!
Great video! Thanks for sharing 👍
Cheers Mario, nice to see you here
Amazing, this is the complete diagnosis
Fantastic job 👍
Great work as always
Hi, great information & skill. My van (2019 transit custom limited 300 L2 12K on the clock) has been in ford dealership now 7 weeks. Last Ford im buying!
What is the issue with your custom?
@@SYDiagnostics Hi sorry for not replying sooner. I filled up at the garage, went & paid, came back and no dash lights, or warning lights ..would not start, not even a 'click ' nothing only a blank dash. Got lights & the remote door locks worked.( i have had a full set of door locks & door protection plates fitted, but its been fine & that was 3 weeks before the fault occurred . both Green flag & AA(ford assist) said get it to a ford dealer asap. The fault is intermittent though. I got it back yesterday after 7 weeks and told the plug in found no faults, addBlue says half full. So, i just have to 'keep an eye on it'. Here's hoping it's just sorted its self out. Thank you for checking on my situation. Keep up the great videos & edcatuting us. 5*
@@bertfairbrother7745 could be water in the bcm its common unfortunately
@@SYDiagnostics Thanks, i will keep that one in mind if it happens again. keep you posted too. Many many thanks.
Great video, where would that gateway plug be located on U.S. model t350 pass…
If it has one, im not familiar with US vehicles. As a rule it'd be connected to the diagnostic connector as one unit. But some vehicles I've seen, the gateway module is remote (mustang)
Great stuff as always. Please keep em coming
My Transit Custom (SF18 RVT) has a very similar fault type, my ford dealer has been trying to diagnose for a week.
mine as well. park aid on the dash shows faulty nd when i apply brakes when driving, my dash goes off nd 2 to 3 minutes late back on until i brake again. seems like the same problem like he had
I never think that you guys done the 100% work
I don't understand your comment?
thanks that was a great vid. i have some what the same problem. when i put my foot on the brakes the dash goes off ,yet all the functions works ,nd i get a park aid warning nd the canbus also shows up on testing. seems like the same problem as yours. the dash goes of nd a minute or 3 it comes back on. only when i brake .
Professional job
Cracking skills buddy
How detailed diagnosis..!
Steve you are a top tech nice find.thanks
Thanks for your comments and thanks for following my channel
Excellent Diag Yoda..
I was wondering how did you manage to get the reading of the gateway and you mention you backprobe.
Can you please do a tutorial on how to do the harness you mention.
As you know Ford wants wants too much money for the gateway breakout box and was also thinking of how to rig the regular breakout box to check the other data lines but you already did it :).....
the genuine Ford item is $449 plus tax !!!! i reckon i could knock these out for £100
@@SYDiagnostics yea you not kidding.
I can buy it for 300 on sale here from rotunda so im thinking about it or build it just like you did.
Simply superb, such a nice work
Wow! I was waiting for that episode the whole week! Finding a short on the other end of a car is a true ace task!
Just wanted to ask you What is your OBD Breakout box brand? I'm looking at buying one right now.
its blue point. i believe they have a new version out now. thanks for the comments
Bloody hell ,this is the 3rd video ive watched in a row very good
Well found, great video.
When you were looking at the CANs with the scope, had you the gateway disconnected so you could put the pins into the plug direct?
I have made a break out box for the gateway unit. Alternatively you can back probe thd connector. Some networks can be accessed via the obd plug
@@SYDiagnostics Thanks
Outstanding work
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Great find...
Hi I have a mk8 transit custom. Fault code p1762 clutch pedal A clutch position correlation. Live data showing clutch pedal is partly pressed when it's not. I replaced both switches on the clutch pedal. It will only start by pressing the brake. Stop start cruse control tpms not working. Any information would be a great help.
Awesome video, just a quick question when the CAN failed did you check the signal at the OBD port and was it showing the same short? Just wondering if they are truly linked through the gateway
As I was under the same understanding as you that testing at the obd is no longer possible as the gateway is it's own can network and is separate from the rest of the CAN, I work at a nissan dealership so maybe be slightly different I dont know but seems the same idea to stop people from messing with the network from the obd port
Hi, yes at all times i had the breakout box connected . The HS1 on 6&14 where not flashing, when I found the issue they started flashing. Testing 6&14 on VAG vehicles is only testing a diagnostic can. So these B.O.B are pretty much useless on VAG
@@SYDiagnostics thanks for your reply, very handy to know cheers for sharing the video love watching them keep em coming
@@lewisthomas8260 Thanks for the comments
Hi Steve im writing from italy and i bought a ford custom flooded,i've clean and lubed every connections,inside the van everything is working but not the instrument panel and tachograph and also not crancking like yours.
12v coming under those correctly and fuses are good,i was thinking if the obd module didn't work could i have these issues? How can i chec this? Thanks a lot for your help
Have you ever had the this fault on a ford transit custom 2014 .. ignition and dash works just won’t start . Changed starter motor, clutch pedal switch. Checked all fuses and fuses in battery compartment, cleaned earth points behind passenger headlight and still no joy have no errors in dash ? Am lost with it 😂
multiple similar faults on transit (2.2 i presume), a hard one to help with without experiencing it. But have you got feed to the starter? the starter relay is controlled via the pcm, can be viewed on live data
Hi thanks for replying. Yes have power to the starter relay. Also have check the key ignition and that’s working fine also . I have been told the bcm is not communicating with the ecu ? Not sure what this means . But van was working fine went to it in the morning and have this problem 🤦
Another great video 👍
i'm not impressed with fords build quality, they were always known as Fix-Or-Repair-Daily in my day, but after viewing many of your vid's this cam bus system coupled with the poor multiplug design issues it's got worse to my mind, i got a 2014 connect LTD im trying to sort after it died with the no start issue i put it into a local auto electrics firm who said the BCM was screwed ( by the way they never got it running ) so dragged it back to mine and left it took battrey lead off as precaution , went back to it a fortnite later to see if i could find anything put lead back on throttle body started to wind up im thinking will this start now and it did i'm now doing a shearlock holmes on this now to track down the fault and where it could be , got a few ideas from watching your vid's and on it goes' cheers ............
great vid ,really interesting
Bloody good fix that... 👍
That is what my 57 Plate astra h Twintop Is do with the daash lights wiper ect Any chance you do mobile work?
No sorry....bad enough doing it 40hrs a week
I have same problem but don't know where the short is. I need help
I have same issue 2.2 tdci not working dasch. Motor start after 6sec stop working
Mine same fault. Found earth wires under fuse box to inner wing rotted off.
Chuck's abs lights on and brake light and engine manage light on and no Speedo before packs up.
Re routed both earth wires and solved it.
No testing gear apart from code reader. No connection to vehicle.
Might help
Good job
Excellent diagnostic testing procedure as well as repair on this transit! I do have one question for you though, how did you modify your DLC Breakout Box to accomodate the new gateway communication module connections? I would love to know that. Thank you very much.
Tumbs up !
My 2018 same fault but clears when I switch on the radio
You have done a wonderful job in creating this video man
Wow
😂😂😩💯❤️🍻good work
Great video, very interesting seeing your process for finding the fault. What is it with transit customs and their wiring? I have a 2 year old custom and its had new harnesses in both front doors due to broken wires and the drivers one has just gone again!
door harness seems to be a weak point
Oh god .... i hope mine is something easier...and I'm an electrician by trade.
Ha! Hello me ... yeah, what a cunt of a job. 3 whole days testing, understanding the ridiculous wiring. Bypassed the loss of 12v contract power and job done. Now its off road again with different electrical fault (3 days after having a new steering rack fitted). Fucking shite design
Where are you based?