Custom Apparel With FOREVER Subli-Flex 202
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2020
- FOREVER Subli-Flex 202 ➜ heat.press/SubliFlex
Forever Subli-Flex 202 brings sublimation on cotton as a unique vinyl material that closely matches the quality of eco solvent solutions. In this video, Jared demonstrates how Subli-Flex 202 allows cotton apparel, whether light or dark, to pop out with vibrant colors
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You just saved me from so much confusion... 🙏 thank you
We're here to help =)
I redid it because instructions stated 356 and I see you did 366. It worked. Thank goodness 😊
love to pick your brain on our new machine! think we are just missing a step, should have stuck to fighting and promoting fights:)
Please contact our Tech Support department and they'll be happy to help get you setup with any HPN purchase. They're available Mon-Fri, 7:30am-3:00pm PT at (800)215-0894.
What software did you use to set margans?
I am new to this but I love your videos! Does the printer automatically connect with the cutter? You print your design and then upload that design to the cutting software? Is there a video that shows this process?
This process varies depending on what cutter you have. But basically, the cutting software sends the file to print from your sublimation printer. You then put the printed sheet into your cutter, where it gets precision cut.
Here's how this process looks on a Silhouette Cameo: th-cam.com/video/36beEIKFDIU/w-d-xo.html
Thank you so much for this video!! I am new to sublimation and recently bought this paper. Do you have any videos on setting up silhouette cameo cutting machine to cut this properly?
Hi there! We have a standard print and cut video, but not for this paper specifically.
I am new to 202 and my project was suppose to be red and green but instead it came out peach and some other color. It was pretty but not what I wanted. I changed the paper to a different sub paper to see if it was just the ink it self but the colors came out perfect. I think the 202 does not give out true color when heat hits it. I have wasted over 20 sheets trying to get the right color but to no avail.
Same here black turns blue its a waste of money!
So just to make sure I can use the ink in my sawgrass 500? The ink that came with it?
The Sawgrass SG500 has 3 different ink options. This product will work best with Sublijet-HD/UHD ink and is also compatible with EasySubli inks. This will not work with ChromaBlast.
Any tips on why my transfer isn't sticking to my shirts? I followed all directions step by step
The most common issue we've seen has been not letting the transfer get completely cool before peeling. If you're still having issues, please feel free to reach out to our technical support team at support.heatpressnation.com.
I change the settings to forever for print management but now I can change it back to print my sublimation items
Hi Richard! You simply right click the Print Manager Icon. And then Options > Edition > Sawgrass :)
Yes like
Is there a preferred sawgrass ink to use with it?
Sublijet-HD / Sublijet-UHD should work just fine. EasySubli inks will work too, but will yield a slightly lesser-quality result. Chromablast will not work at all.
Hello! From my understanding of sublimation it is a dye that normally fuses with cloth fibers so all you can feel is the fabric. With the subliflex it seems like the paper is fusing with the ink and then the paper with the fabric. It looks like you can still feel the layer of the print on the fabric unlike normal sublimation onto a tshirt. My question is, in terms of appearance on the tshirt how is this different from normal vinyl thats cut and heat transferred? Besides the Shiney finish, it looks the same.
You are correct. The feel and finish are going to be very similar to heat transfer vinyl.
True sublimation, where you dye the cloth fibers, has zero feel and looks beautiful. The drawback is that there is no white sublimation ink. So any white in your image is filled in by the white of the garment, which is why black and dark colored garments will not work for sublimation.
Products like Subli-Flex 202 allow you to customize dark garments with your sublimation printer. But the drawback there is that you are using a heat transfer material, which doesn't have the look and feel of true sublimation.
I just purchased this what is the best cut setting for this I’m using Cameo 4 thank you
Try using the "heat transfer, smooth" preset in Silhouette Studio. Do a test cut first and adjust from there as necessary.
@@HeatPressNation thank you
It’s correct to say that sublimate using Subli Flex to 100% black cotton has the same results that if using a DFT printer? Any advantages over DFT?
The final product may look similar, but they are two different products. Subli-Flex 202 is a printable vinyl material that has to be cut and weeded before pressing. DTF is printed right onto the film, with an adhesive agent added afterward. Subli-Flex 202 is definitely the more affordable product, as DTF printers can be very expensive.
I cant get my subliflex to adhere to clothing.. it keeps peeling off. I followed all the instructions and still have no luck.
The common problem with Subli-Flex is the result of peeling the carrier sheet before the transfer has COMPLETELY cooled. If you're in a warm climate, you may find the need to place your transfers in front of a fan to cool down. If you have stone countertops, they also work great to cool down transfers.
If you're still experiencing issues, reach out to our technical support department at (800)215-0894.
Can it be layered? Either top or bottom?
We don't recommend layering this material.
Do you have a video for us that do not use Sawgrass ink?
Here at HPN we use Sawgrass printers and ink exclusively. In short, they're by far the best choice - especially for those just getting started with sublimation. This blog explains why in much more detail: www.heatpressnation.com/blogs/blog/why-sawgrass-is-the-1-choice-in-sublimation-printers
Hi, how long do you wait after printing, to cut with the plotter?
A few minutes, or hoever long it takes the ink to dry. (Prints with more color coverage typically take longer.)
Hi guys, How long will it last before cracking, fade etc... (total lasting wash cycles)
It depends on the total amount of coverage. But most transfers should last over 20+ washes, since this is an HTV product.
@@HeatPressNation thanks. Keep up the good work
can i apply in polyester materials?
Forever recommends Subli-Flex 202 for 100% cotton and leather only.
Will this work with ink from epson F570?
Yes
How would I print through sawgrass print manager if I have a Cricut?
We don't carry Cricut products, so we don't know how that would work. Hopefully someone with knowledge on this can comment. You can also submit your question in our Facebook Group, HeatPressNation Creators (heat.press/FBgroup).
Can I use a cameo 4 with this program
Yes, definitely. The Cameo 4 has the print & cut feature needed for this product.
My image won’t transfer on my cotton tee after the first 15 seconds. After cooling, it lifts with the plastic backing.
If it's lifting with the plastic backing, then it either hasn't cooled enough or there was insufficient pressure. If you live in a warm climate or are working in a warm room, you may need to take additional steps to ensure the transfer is completely cool before peeling. Placing the garment in front of a fan or on a cool stone countertop should help.
Where do I buy the paper with which it is placed on top of the image to peel it
This product comes on it's own mask, very similar to regular HTV. So there is no secondary mask to purchase.
(Siser EasySubli is a different product and does require a mask)
I know I am missing a step, I'm trying to print from the cameo4 to my sawgrass printer and when I click on print manager, it doesn't print. What am I doing wrong? I know its hooked up to my cameo 4. Please help!
It sounds like you're using an Apple computer (Mac). If so, the process for printing with your Sawgrass printer from Silhouette Studio is different from printing on a PC.
- Send to print, select "Print As PDF"
- Instead of sending to print, open in Preview
- In Preview, save as PNG or JPEG
- Click on Sawgrass Print Manager icon
- Click "Open Local File"
- Select file and print
What number of heat pressure do you use?
This product requires medium-high pressure. You can view the detailed pressing instructions here: cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0229/1646/4718/files/forever-subli-flex-202.pdf?v=1632782609
This forever subliflex 202 can be use on 100% polyester?
No. According to Forever, Subli-Flex 202 will only adhere to 100% cotton, denim, and leather.
@@HeatPressNation what about 50/50? It will work?
Is this material paper,vinyl or is it same material as easysubli ? Thank you
This is a vinyl, similar to EasySubli. It's a little bit thinner, has a smooth glossy or semi-glossy finish, and comes on its own mask.
Can it be printed with an Epson desktop printer with sublimation ink?
Yes, this paper works with all sublimation printer/ink systems.
@@HeatPressNation why do you need sublimation ink???? Shouldn’t regular ink do just fine since it’s not going to be sublimated on to the fabric???
@@jackienovoa3385 I have this question too! Someone please answer
Normal inks fades after the first wash.
@@thehomiesbrand Sublimation ink is heat activated!! Notice the 2nd press activates and bleeds through.
Anyone have issues with the material bubbling/ creasing after a wash. Anything I can do to fix it or have I done something wrong?
It's likely the garment is being washed and/or dried too hot.
The instructions indicate a cold wash cycle (inside out) and hanging/line drying when possible. If you must tumble dry, use the lowest/most delicate heat setting possible.
@@HeatPressNation thanks for replying. I washed it inside out on a 40° degree cel. Wash. No tumble dryer. Wonder if I did the application process wrong
stuff took forever to get here I need a free 5 pack of the easysubli vinyl and mask for the lack of communication glad I ordered the subliflex or I would be up shits creek on some tshirts . I guess then I would've got an empty box 🤣🤣
So sorry about the delay in getting your products to you! This pandemic has caused many logistics nightmares - not only on our end, but also on FedEx, USPS, etc.
@@HeatPressNation yes I understand that part. but it wouldve been good to get an email or something regarding the backorder , aside from the packing slip with the delivery for the order, which I thought was fulfilled.
Same thing here. HPN said my order was shipped then 5 days later i get an email saying my label was created and my order is being shipped! I work in shipping and yes there were delays but those delays never affected a persons ability to speak. Communication is key. Again HPN cause push fault on the Pandemic but i received 3 orders in the time it took to get my subliflex. Same state, same city, same zip. See now, that 1 + 1 = 2 not making much sense.
@@strangedaez7885 I finally got the last part of my order after getting some poor ladies order with the second delayed order from heat press
I don't get that menu when i select PM
Are you using a Windows PC or a Mac? This process is different on a Mac.
If you are using Windows, go to 1:10 of this video to see how to change to the correct edition of Sawgrass Print Manager.
Is the printer inkjet
No, for this we used a Sawgrass sublimation printer: www.heatpressnation.com/collections/sawgrass-technologies-products
The 202 is giving me hell. Unless I'm doing something wrong, I prefer easi subli. The 202 has peeled off of 2 projects. Embarrassing. Help
One thing we've noticed about the 202 is that you have to let the transfer cool COMPLETELY before peeling. If you're working in a warm climate, you can use a fan to help cool it down. When moving the transfer off the press and over to your cooling area, be careful that nothing lifts off the garment. When peeling the carrier sheet off the finished product, use a rolling motion instead of pulling up and away.
-Jared
I'll try this. I'd really hate to waste this material.
Don't waste your time sad but this product is a waste of money peels and cracks colors fade and change when pressed all the cooling in the world wont change the quality of this product. I have a shirt made from dark transfer paper thats been washed about 10 to15x and it looks like my subliflex.
It would be nice if working, fallowing the instruction it peels off and yep printing with Epson on subly ink some colours changes ,,, Waste of time and money ...
If it's lifting with the plastic backing, then it either hasn't cooled enough or there was insufficient pressure. If you live in a warm climate or are working in a warm room, you may need to take additional steps to ensure the transfer is completely cool before peeling. Placing the garment in front of a fan or on a cool stone countertop should help.
@@HeatPressNation Even if after numerous tries I would get it to stick, it change the colours and it feels crap on the garment...
Soooooo here we go! 1st it took me almost a month to get my paper from HPN. They did the whole your order has been shipped but 5 days later a label was created and your order is being shipped! 1 wash already peeling and cracking definitely feels like the regular iron on paper just with a shine. IMO not worth it. Shipping is ridiculous quality is definitely not there for the price. I would rather iron on 100 shirts with an avery product. $30 for 10 sheets and you got 100 shirt order. Do the math you can purchase better equipment and produce better quality at home.
so confused!!!!!!!!!!
Are there any specific points we can help clarify?
This stuff is hard to work with. I hate it and will never buy it again.