If I may I would suggest you to think about this camera not only as a cinema camera, but as a still camera also. I think you're in the right path, but the strength of the Red is actually the amazing "photos" it can produce, it actually can make up to 30 photos a second at 15.4 megapixel if own the helium sensor. And is exactly as you said , if you don't have enough light you must find a way around it instead of working with gain or iso in post. This is what teaches you cinematography. If you work with Red you must find a style that works for the image you're about to capture, pretty much like when you use a film that gives you different flavours by brand or by iso (asa). When you work with Kodak you know that the light is going to be captured differently from a Fuji for example. With Red is the same, I actually work in different ways If I work with helium or gemini or dragon, In fact I don't even cal the camera by the brand name anymore but I call it by the name of the sensor. What gives to this camera an edge is actually how much you can push it ... after you've nailed the exposure as you said... in post you can really do everything, and this is where someone should really consider if they need a Red or not, because if you just shot side by side to one of those new dslr without knowing how is then delivered, the images are going to be the same. So if you're someone that work with fashion or products, if you shot commercial where the photography is the main thing or if you feel that your style need strong post production, with this camera your life is going to be much more easy. I won't suggest this camera to someone that work mainly with narrative subjects, unless of course you are hollywood that need some crazy special effects, otherwise Arri in this field is unbeatable you just need a nice glass and you're done even the raw file doesn't make much sense with the Arri that's why no one use it. For everything else Red i s the perfect choice, also for me Red gave me back the satisfaction of lighting a scene, it makes me experiment more and more helping me to find my own style and the confidence that I always have my own way around problems.
My Professors: "It doesn't matter what camera you shoot with. Focus instead on lighting and shooting something interesting." Me: "Sure, but let me check what Cinecom.net has to say!" Jordy: "Yeah, about that..."
@@Tacos888 Ugh... One of my professors shot a promo for Ferrari with a GH5. Got paid damn good money for it. But this is youtube comments so it doesn't really matter what the anecdotal responses are to corrections of jokes.
@@liamd.obrien1768 No offense but, I think your professor is not telling the truth. Ferrari is a mega million dollar company with a trade name to protect. They would not come to individual people to do their promos. Ferrari handles their own marketing internally. They've developed a unit within the company called the "Ferrari Global Brand Department" by use of a comprehensive website and rely heavily on word of mouth.
I just purchased a Kinefinity Terra 4k. It's a lot like the Gemini, but a lot less expensive. I needed a low light camera, and decided to pay a bit more for a cinema camera, than a Gh5s! The Terra package I got was only $5500! Really excited to test it out on some shoots and see what it can do!
Love the transparency on this channel. Not everything in social media goes according to plan and its good to see that you post the good and the bad. Keep up the great work
Man, I really needed to watch this video right now. Always been feeling insecure about still shooting on smaller cameras and was more and more considering that switch. I was sure this video would just be, yes get it if you're a pro or no it's not worth it. But the lesson about "being ready for it" is a very valuable one. I'll take the byproduct advice and start paying more attention to lighting and everything else that goes behind making great videos before I start considering upgrading again. Great content as always!
I as well own a RED. I relate so much to this video. My idea is why edit in LOG when you footage is RAW. You have all the room to adjust exposure and color you want especially with the IPP2 workflow
I had a red on preorder when they first announced the DSMC2 lineup. I cancelled my scarlet w package because my job changed and finances decreased significantly. In that time I fell in love again with story, lighting, execution and being able to convey my message through my art. Having that RED? It would have made me focus on be able to say I had it versus being a quality artist and professional. Glad things happened the way they did.
@@thuryn.mitchell These have much less refined color science, and in the case of BM cameras no OLPF - which means all your shots have the effect of quite a bit fo sharpening applied, whether you want this or not. They're OK, but they do not look as nice as even a Red One MX. So... Do you want to handicap all your shoots? How much is it worth to never handicap your shoots? And remeber, you don't have to buy, you can always rent if you live near a big city.
@@makosports Actually, RED is the only camera brand who does NOT apply sharpening to their raw capture. Everyone else add sharpening and you can not turn that off in camera.
I bought a Red Scarlet-W and had a great experience right away. You do need to spend time with it to fully understand how everything works, including your editing software. The ability to change ISO and color temp in post saved me many times. It is a cinema camera and not the same as a all automatic point and shoot DSL type of video camera.
My camera hasn't had this problem. It's always worked great. I've shot in 110 degree deserts, cold snowy mountains, wet humid waterfalls and urban settings. You don't need to recalibrate or do black shading unless there is a drastic temp change or you updated the camera operating system. You don't need to do that if you just change the shutter speed or fps settings. I'm continuously changing ISO, FPS and color temp on shoots and never need to re-calibrate
It's a great camera. You won't regret it. My advice is spend time with it to get to know how it works. Don't rush off and start filming a real paying gig unless you've worked with it. There are a lot of settings and most you don't need to work with right away. I haven't figured out what the optimal compression ratio is. I have mine set low and I know I could get by with a higher setting. I shot a scene where the actor was supposed to knock a whisky bottle to the ground and have it shatter. We did a take where he falls and we were going to shoot the bottle falling and breaking later. He accidently knocked off on a take and I happen to catch the fall and glass breaking. The problem was the it was lit too dark. With the Red camera, I simply changed the ISO in post and got an amazing and natural looking shot. No way this would have been rescued with any other camera.
This is true. Even though my first unit was dead on arrival and the second one was repaired for a faulty board, I've been very happy with my Scarlet-W. It is the best value RED ever made (I got it when it was still $9950) :)
I purchased my first RED in December too and totally know what you're talking about. There is always a little voice in the back of my mind like, "Why aren't you just using your C200 for this project, it will be much easier"? Forcing myself to learn how to shoot on a RED has been a rewiring of my brain. The amount of knowledge I've accumulated has justified the purchase, but would I purchase another one? I don't know, it's complicated. :D
Well said. I have to say I thought I knew a lot about photography and shooting video until I started my cinematography studies then realized I knew very little. I realized that everything is about how to light the subject, how it sounds , and how to correctly adjust a camera's white balance. Knowing those pieces helps with any camera you use in any scenario. Can't wait to see your short film.
This explains what no one would say. Because people buy this camera to flex on it. You guys are just like. I want to learn something. And I think that that is beautiful
I actually switched back to shooting in DSLR from a cinema camera. Although I liked how cinema cams are built for capturing video, it just wasn’t making me happy. I love the versatility that comes along with a more compact DSLR, lightweight - use on lighter gimbals, switch from 24fps footage to 120fps, then taking amazing photos and then to time-lapse in seconds. Cinema cameras just made it feel like work and the cons outweighed the pros once the “joy” factor faded. Find the camera that makes you feel the most creative and makes you smile every time you turn it on.
I agree with you! at some point, you want to push more of what your camera can do and sometimes it doesn't have it and upgrading to something new is a good way to do that. I did that when I found out about LOG footage and that my old camera couldn't do it so I saved up and got one that could. Learned a lot about it and still learning!
I’ve had grainy footage as well when i’ve shot with the Gemini in 5K but that goes away once you make a 2k or 1080p export. The more pixels you have the cleaner the image you get.
I think you nailed every aspect on the head. It's an entire different mindset and the camera adheres to a lot of basic photography rules of thumb. Create your scene in the real world and not in editing software. Editing software should be looked at as a slight correction or enhancement tool. It should not be approached as if the software is the camera itself. I hear many people say, "Oh I'll just create it or fix that in post. Bzzzt, Wrong. I am sure that once you master the Red and other film making tools you will become a master of your environment without even realizing it. Light, shadow, temperature, time, angle, speed. Master those and you will take over the world, muah ha ha ha 😈, lol.
I have own the RED Dragon - X and it comes in 2 weeks 😍😍😍 I'm 21 year old, and the reason because i buying a RED so early is, all over filming to learn with one of the best cameras in the world. Now I can instantly be better and better with no compromise of technic. 😊
great "review"/experience story! telling all the stuff nobody is telling us! would be great to see/hear more of it! only two questions: 1. can you change ISO (shot raw) inside premiere pro aswell? (didn't get that...) 2 is the workflow with final cut pro the same? simply put the footage onto the timeline and play with it?
I like how you said to buy the lighting and the tripod and the sliders and the mics and everything else first because that's what I find myself doing. I'm learning to use lighting and sound and editing and getting those creative camera angles that tells a story and everything first right now when originally I was going to start off by buying Sony A7III and a DJI mavic 2 pro thinking I'll get these two cameras and I could do all kinds of stuff. But really I found that with good lighting and sound plus the ability to edit can take you waaaaaaaayyyy farther than a camera alone ever could. I've just been using my phone which had a pretty good camera. And I've done a bunch of cool stuff with it lately. With that all being said I'm gearing up to buy my first camera now and probably some more gear. You buy these cameras to gain greater control of your image and that's it. The camera doesn't give you the best angle or make a a great videographer/cinematographer or what have you. It doesn't teach you how to light a scene or capture it's sound. And it doesn't tell you how to capture the story or edit it all together. And with all of that to anyone that's new like me I'd say buy everything Jordy mentioned getting first and just use your phone. Then get a camera because it's better to know how to capture something than to have something fancy to capture it with.
I film all my TH-cam videos on my phone and I was considering buying a DSLR that I could barely afford to make my videos better but you convinced me not too and I’m am very grateful. I was able to spend the money on projects or just save it. Thankyou
I would recommend using the tool named "video" instead of "gio-scope", that or the "exposure" tool. It makes it easier to differentiate the different levels of exposure in your scene. :)
@@NostalgiNorden All films nominated for the 2019 Best Picture, Best Cinematography and Best Director Oscars were shot on Arri film or digital cameras. Not a single Red Camera.
I had the same problem when I got a Sony FS5ii. There is a learning curve with cinema cameras. Now that I have a RED Komodo, the learning curve is not so hard.
Go try the Arri Alexa mini LF, it’s simplicity, colour and image quality will make you fall in love all over again.... and possibly trade in the RED.. lol. Great stuff Jordy, we want you, as a guest, on an episode of our photo & Video podcast please. ;)
I am quite sure you know how to properly use a light meter, but your action while showing it may confuse anyone watching who is not familiar with them. You held it up with the sensor pointed away from you, as if pointing it directly at the light. For anyone new to light meters, the sensor should be aimed back at yourself (this is why the sensor swivels) or towards the actor or scene element you’re shooting. The meter is designed to measure the reflected light levels, not the level from the light itself. I began in film as a special effects artist, but noticed that the DPs on the films and TV shows I would be working on would use the meter this way and they explained to me how it should be measuring reflected light. Once I learned that trick, I was able to improve the light setting tremendously on my own projects. I was always pointing it towards the lights and wondered why the footage was always dark and this was a time before digital and film processing was a major budget concern, so getting the lighting right the first time was a huge time and money saver. Anyway, I always enjoy your videos. Even after more than 40 years in film and television there is always much more to learn, especially in this digital age which evolves by the day.
You’re approaching camera choices with the wrong mind set. You choose a camera on what it can do rather then the image quality. You chose a camera because it can shoot 5 or 8k (giving you more options in post) or because it has a higher Dynamic range, a higher or dual native ISO for low light options, a higher Max FPS for slow motion etc... Lenses are the main component you need to pay attention when it comes to how your film looks. On a side note: rent first. And only buy after your understand what a 40k camera gives you. Chances are, you would have been just fine just getting an URSA Mini Pro for 6k. Still a Cine Camera In it’s own right.
Jordy, had you come to NAB Show, you could have vented your frustrations directly to RED. They had a terrific suite with many employees onsite. I posted many photos of it on Instagram. Earlier that day, I met Kenta of RED in the elevator down at the SLS Hotel. We were both on our way to NAB Show that particular morning. He's the former Sony Alpha marketing head for North America. Now he's a big deal at RED. And you could have finally met Jayson Levine of Adobe who's looking forward to meeting you. Regards, Hakan
I talked to RED at IBC. They were very kind. I have no idea what went wrong though. I've heard their logistics got messed up because of the Brexit, which gave problems for the EU.
Beneficial video. Thank you. Gives me an obvious direction in regards to a near future RED purchase. I'm grateful to be able to benefit from your experiences. Keep up the great content!
Lighting is key. Camera doesnt matter if you can't light. Also your end game matters. What is your distribution platform? If you're staying on YT, fine, the h264 codec recording from your dslr is great but if you're going to TV or Projection in a DNxHD or ProRes or DCP, your dslr h264 blacks will break down and the footage will fall apart.
hi, you're making great videos! can you tell me what kind of arm (zaccuto?) and setup you use to hold the 7" monitor? I guess the option to inverse monitoring upside/down is in the setup camera? thanks again!
Ursa Mini Pro G2 and at a fraction of the price. I appreciate you sharing your experience with us, good to know these things as a non Red owner thinking about upgrading down the road. -Jay
i use premiere for most of my work, but for the projects that i shoot Log i like to go the extra step and grade them in resolve, the non destructive Color Transform plug in works a lot better than the usual log to rec709 LUT, you guys should give it a try, you can even access the raw tab and change the ISO, color space, temperature and much more with .r3d files
Why are you using Nikon lenses? I mean, I have a Nikon too and was planning to switch on Canon, because Canon mount is more common on cinema cameras... Not considering PL
So many problems. I have heard about many others that hve had complains about RED. When you spend so much money on a camera should it work from the start. For big productions the camera has to work perfect. No dead pixels etc. If it is one dead pixel it can ruin the quallity because all the other things is high quality. I getthat it is a cinema camera so they have people to just messure light, and asistants for the camera to change settings, grips, gaffers etc. so yeah it goes much work into getting it perfect. The camera is intended for that. RED is still a much better brand that for example Arri for people that operate the camera alone. I would love to learn about cinema cameras myself. It's a completely different world. The exposure thing sounds a bit complicated, but it has to be fun to learn much new about settings etc. on a camera again. If you can use a 200 Dollar DSLR, you can use a 8000 Dollar DSLR too, because it's kind of the same on all of them. I guess the RED Gemini worked great for the short film you made Jordy? On a short film, you have much better time to get it all perfect and pay attension to the details you normally wouldn't have time for. I am still a big fan of RED and your camera is future proof for a really long time. I don't think cinema cameras exchange like DSLR cameras does :-)
Sounds like a struggle but also a great expedited learning curve! But in the time you waited to get it working a few more affordable Red competitors in the marked, check out the latest Kinefinity and Z-cam(6k & 8k models) and of course the BMPCC4K that alot of people are raving about ;)
DaVinci resolve is great for grading, but you might want to check out using proxy files to cut in premiere and grade raw i davinci. (DaVinci is free btw). This is also moving closer to a professional kind of workflow. But if you got a little time, check out davinci :)
@Jordy - hahaha,, I couldn't figure out why my channel was blowing up... Then one of your great subs commented "Jordy sent me here". Thank you for the shoutout. I can't wait for the next Red video.... Once you click to how everything works for you in Red, you'll be pulling stuff out you never saw before. Its a challenging road but you, my friend, are well on your way to making the Red sing. I look forward to all the great stuff you'll be putting out. Thanks again.
1 Corinthians 13:11: "When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways." Now you have a RED, behave like a man!
Jordy, catch! So, in your opinion, what is the best dslr for capturing great footage? I know you might be biased because you use Panasonic, but I would like to know.
hi jordy im watching your videos since 2016 whatever you did was awesome but can you kindly make a video on story telling more often we have good equipment and editing skills but i think without a story a well composed shot or high end editing is nothing thanks
well yes is a camera for filmmakers with nice tools the use of the light meter is essential even if you have a dslr is an advance camera excellent at last a camera for man not for mouse
Was expecting Jordy to say "Oh, fuck off. Whom Am I kidding. I definitely regret buying this stuff." any moment 😂 Didn't knew you could be this sarcastic as well.
Hey, I have a question about your studio. What are the sizes of your Studio, I'm just asking because I want to build my own studio and yours seems to have a good size. ; )
Was there a reason you didn't get a Blackmagic cinema camera instead? A lot less expensive, very similar results, better work flow, and far less of a learning curve.
here is some tips if you are interested and want to learn but don't have money. 1)work for free ( Editing ) 2)when you are editing videos of clients tell them that you want to assist camera man. ( They will not deny). 3) if you are assistance for that project, you get more experience. and thats what important. 4) increase your contacts by such work. work free for them and they will atleast give you camera for your project (Not commercial one) 5) And when you are ready , you can rent camera. after all client is paying all rent. sorry for bad english ( Communication is more important thaan communication language)
I wanna buy a new camera mainly for filming and learning about cinematography and I'm thinking about buying a Sony A7III, does anyone have experience with this camera, is it worth buying?
I can edit Arri footage 1K to 4K on my Mac G5 with no problems in Final Cut Pro 6. Red so far has been the only footage that I can't convert R3D to ProRes 4444 or 422 HQ or even 422. None of my PCs which are also old can convert them either. I occasionally look on the net for a small free program but nothing so far. Even RedShitbombX from the Red site craps out on the 64bit PC. Merd!
So basically it's like dating a hot chick that is dumb..
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You were right af :v
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You nailed it 😂
So now I don't know what is a bigger responsibility. Having a child or owning a RED
Go for the child
Go for kid and make him work hard to buy you RED
both
Its more like owning a child and having a RED.....
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Don't get a RED camera until you are REDy for it
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This is actually a smart ad idea
If I may I would suggest you to think about this camera not only as a cinema camera, but as a still camera also. I think you're in the right path,
but the strength of the Red is actually the amazing "photos" it can produce, it actually can make up to 30 photos a second at 15.4 megapixel if own the helium sensor. And is exactly as you said , if you don't have enough light you must find a way around it instead of working with gain or iso in post. This is what teaches you cinematography. If you work with Red you must find a style that works for the image you're about to capture, pretty much like when you use a film that gives you different flavours by brand or by iso (asa). When you work with Kodak you know that the light is going to be captured differently from a Fuji for example. With Red is the same, I actually work in different ways If I work with helium or gemini or dragon, In fact I don't even cal the camera by the brand name anymore but I call it by the name of the sensor. What gives to this camera an edge is actually how much you can push it ... after you've nailed the exposure as you said... in post you can really do everything, and this is where someone should really consider if they need a Red or not, because if you just shot side by side to one of those new dslr without knowing how is then delivered, the images are going to be the same. So if you're someone that work with fashion or products, if you shot commercial where the photography is the main thing or if you feel that your style need strong post production, with this camera your life is going to be much more easy. I won't suggest this camera to someone that work mainly with narrative subjects, unless of course you are hollywood that need some crazy special effects, otherwise Arri in this field is unbeatable you just need a nice glass and you're done even the raw file doesn't make much sense with the Arri that's why no one use it. For everything else Red i s the perfect choice, also for me Red gave me back the satisfaction of lighting a scene, it makes me experiment more and more helping me to find my own style and the confidence that I always have my own way around problems.
My Professors: "It doesn't matter what camera you shoot with. Focus instead on lighting and shooting something interesting."
Me: "Sure, but let me check what Cinecom.net has to say!"
Jordy: "Yeah, about that..."
Yup! Thats Jordy for ya
Not 100% true, if you show up to a shoot for A super car brand and have. A canon 6d. They gonna fire you lol
@@Tacos888 Ugh... One of my professors shot a promo for Ferrari with a GH5. Got paid damn good money for it. But this is youtube comments so it doesn't really matter what the anecdotal responses are to corrections of jokes.
@@liamd.obrien1768 No offense but, I think your professor is not telling the truth. Ferrari is a mega million dollar company with a trade name to protect. They would not come to individual people to do their promos.
Ferrari handles their own marketing internally. They've developed a unit within the company called the "Ferrari Global Brand Department" by use of a comprehensive website and rely heavily on word of mouth.
I may be biased, but, I think Storyblocks rocks.... hehe. Always love supporting awesome channels likes yours.
You guys do rock! 😁 The library has been growing tremendous lately! I love it!
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Shameless plug in comments... Hahahahaha
I just purchased a Kinefinity Terra 4k. It's a lot like the Gemini, but a lot less expensive. I needed a low light camera, and decided to pay a bit more for a cinema camera, than a Gh5s! The Terra package I got was only $5500! Really excited to test it out on some shoots and see what it can do!
All the footage from Terra 4K looks great. Congrats. Helium owner.
Love the transparency on this channel. Not everything in social media goes according to plan and its good to see that you post the good and the bad. Keep up the great work
Man, I really needed to watch this video right now. Always been feeling insecure about still shooting on smaller cameras and was more and more considering that switch. I was sure this video would just be, yes get it if you're a pro or no it's not worth it. But the lesson about "being ready for it" is a very valuable one. I'll take the byproduct advice and start paying more attention to lighting and everything else that goes behind making great videos before I start considering upgrading again. Great content as always!
I as well own a RED. I relate so much to this video. My idea is why edit in LOG when you footage is RAW. You have all the room to adjust exposure and color you want especially with the IPP2 workflow
I had a red on preorder when they first announced the DSMC2 lineup. I cancelled my scarlet w package because my job changed and finances decreased significantly. In that time I fell in love again with story, lighting, execution and being able to convey my message through my art. Having that RED? It would have made me focus on be able to say I had it versus being a quality artist and professional. Glad things happened the way they did.
Time to give Blackmagic Design cameras a chance? especially with introduction of their new BRAW format??
@@thuryn.mitchell These have much less refined color science, and in the case of BM cameras no OLPF - which means all your shots have the effect of quite a bit fo sharpening applied, whether you want this or not. They're OK, but they do not look as nice as even a Red One MX. So... Do you want to handicap all your shoots? How much is it worth to never handicap
your shoots? And remeber, you don't have to buy, you can always rent if you live near a big city.
@@makosports Actually, RED is the only camera brand who does NOT apply sharpening to their raw capture. Everyone else add sharpening and you can not turn that off in camera.
The Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K is a nice entry level cinema camera ;)
I love it!!!
Give it to me!
I bought a Red Scarlet-W and had a great experience right away. You do need to spend time with it to fully understand how everything works, including your editing software. The ability to change ISO and color temp in post saved me many times. It is a cinema camera and not the same as a all automatic point and shoot DSL type of video camera.
Have you this blue and death pixel problem too?
My camera hasn't had this problem. It's always worked great. I've shot in 110 degree deserts, cold snowy mountains, wet humid waterfalls and urban settings. You don't need to recalibrate or do black shading unless there is a drastic temp change or you updated the camera operating system. You don't need to do that if you just change the shutter speed or fps settings. I'm continuously changing ISO, FPS and color temp on shoots and never need to re-calibrate
@@JMilton5 thanks 😅 I was a little bit scared after the video. My RED came in 2 weeks. Haha
It's a great camera. You won't regret it. My advice is spend time with it to get to know how it works. Don't rush off and start filming a real paying gig unless you've worked with it. There are a lot of settings and most you don't need to work with right away. I haven't figured out what the optimal compression ratio is. I have mine set low and I know I could get by with a higher setting.
I shot a scene where the actor was supposed to knock a whisky bottle to the ground and have it shatter. We did a take where he falls and we were going to shoot the bottle falling and breaking later. He accidently knocked off on a take and I happen to catch the fall and glass breaking. The problem was the it was lit too dark. With the Red camera, I simply changed the ISO in post and got an amazing and natural looking shot. No way this would have been rescued with any other camera.
This is true. Even though my first unit was dead on arrival and the second one was repaired for a faulty board, I've been very happy with my Scarlet-W. It is the best value RED ever made (I got it when it was still $9950) :)
I purchased my first RED in December too and totally know what you're talking about. There is always a little voice in the back of my mind like, "Why aren't you just using your C200 for this project, it will be much easier"? Forcing myself to learn how to shoot on a RED has been a rewiring of my brain. The amount of knowledge I've accumulated has justified the purchase, but would I purchase another one? I don't know, it's complicated. :D
Well said. I have to say I thought I knew a lot about photography and shooting video until I started my cinematography studies then realized I knew very little. I realized that everything is about how to light the subject, how it sounds , and how to correctly adjust a camera's white balance. Knowing those pieces helps with any camera you use in any scenario. Can't wait to see your short film.
This explains what no one would say. Because people buy this camera to flex on it. You guys are just like. I want to learn something. And I think that that is beautiful
I opened TH-cam to check Cinecom video. And here is the notification!
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I actually switched back to shooting in DSLR from a cinema camera. Although I liked how cinema cams are built for capturing video, it just wasn’t making me happy. I love the versatility that comes along with a more compact DSLR, lightweight - use on lighter gimbals, switch from 24fps footage to 120fps, then taking amazing photos and then to time-lapse in seconds. Cinema cameras just made it feel like work and the cons outweighed the pros once the “joy” factor faded. Find the camera that makes you feel the most creative and makes you smile every time you turn it on.
I agree with you! at some point, you want to push more of what your camera can do and sometimes it doesn't have it and upgrading to something new is a good way to do that. I did that when I found out about LOG footage and that my old camera couldn't do it so I saved up and got one that could. Learned a lot about it and still learning!
I’ve had grainy footage as well when i’ve shot with the Gemini in 5K but that goes away once you make a 2k or 1080p export. The more pixels you have the cleaner the image you get.
The colors in this video looks awesome!! What camera you used for this video?
I think you nailed every aspect on the head.
It's an entire different mindset and the camera adheres to a lot of basic photography rules of thumb. Create your scene in the real world and not in editing software. Editing software should be looked at as a slight correction or enhancement tool. It should not be approached as if the software is the camera itself. I hear many people say, "Oh I'll just create it or fix that in post. Bzzzt, Wrong.
I am sure that once you master the Red and other film making tools you will become a master of your environment without even realizing it. Light, shadow, temperature, time, angle, speed. Master those and you will take over the world, muah ha ha ha 😈, lol.
Solution : switch to a black color shirt.
It's what we call : black magic.
Also, in belgium Dennis "black magic" was a known 'erotic' film maker... Has gone to prison for a while for some shady actions.
Hate BM cameras. Had lots of issues with both the bmcc and bmpc
You are so honest to audience. That's why lots of people like you. 👏🏻👏🏻
Keep it up bro.
I have own the RED Dragon - X and it comes in 2 weeks 😍😍😍
I'm 21 year old, and the reason because i buying a RED so early is, all over filming to learn with one of the best cameras in the world. Now I can instantly be better and better with no compromise of technic. 😊
great "review"/experience story!
telling all the stuff nobody is telling us!
would be great to see/hear more of it!
only two questions:
1. can you change ISO (shot raw) inside premiere pro aswell? (didn't get that...)
2 is the workflow with final cut pro the same? simply put the footage onto the timeline and play with it?
I like how you said to buy the lighting and the tripod and the sliders and the mics and everything else first because that's what I find myself doing. I'm learning to use lighting and sound and editing and getting those creative camera angles that tells a story and everything first right now when originally I was going to start off by buying Sony A7III and a DJI mavic 2 pro thinking I'll get these two cameras and I could do all kinds of stuff. But really I found that with good lighting and sound plus the ability to edit can take you waaaaaaaayyyy farther than a camera alone ever could. I've just been using my phone which had a pretty good camera. And I've done a bunch of cool stuff with it lately. With that all being said I'm gearing up to buy my first camera now and probably some more gear.
You buy these cameras to gain greater control of your image and that's it. The camera doesn't give you the best angle or make a a great videographer/cinematographer or what have you. It doesn't teach you how to light a scene or capture it's sound. And it doesn't tell you how to capture the story or edit it all together.
And with all of that to anyone that's new like me I'd say buy everything Jordy mentioned getting first and just use your phone. Then get a camera because it's better to know how to capture something than to have something fancy to capture it with.
I film all my TH-cam videos on my phone and I was considering buying a DSLR that I could barely afford to make my videos better but you convinced me not too and I’m am very grateful. I was able to spend the money on projects or just save it. Thankyou
Your honesty is refreshing!
I would recommend using the tool named "video" instead of "gio-scope", that or the "exposure" tool. It makes it easier to differentiate the different levels of exposure in your scene. :)
That‘s why Hollywood uses Arri instead of Red Cameras. The Reds have so many quality issues!
exactly brother
@@ZikoProfessional Alot of holloywood productions uses Red dumbass.
NostalgiNorden Yes, but more use Arri
@@NostalgiNorden All films nominated for the 2019 Best Picture, Best Cinematography and Best Director Oscars were shot on Arri film or digital cameras. Not a single Red Camera.
@@NostalgiNorden *none of them. BUT if u talking about Netflix, ur right...
As a new filmmaker always wondering what equipment to invest in, this was very helpful. Thank you!
Love the lighting dude 💓
I had the same problem when I got a Sony FS5ii. There is a learning curve with cinema cameras. Now that I have a RED Komodo, the learning curve is not so hard.
I like this light setup. Did you use GH5 for the filming?
Go try the Arri Alexa mini LF, it’s simplicity, colour and image quality will make you fall in love all over again.... and possibly trade in the RED.. lol. Great stuff Jordy, we want you, as a guest, on an episode of our photo & Video podcast please. ;)
I think the camera you filmed this video blog on looks amazing. I'm guessing since your holding the Red in your hand it was your GH5.
I am quite sure you know how to properly use a light meter, but your action while showing it may confuse anyone watching who is not familiar with them. You held it up with the sensor pointed away from you, as if pointing it directly at the light. For anyone new to light meters, the sensor should be aimed back at yourself (this is why the sensor swivels) or towards the actor or scene element you’re shooting. The meter is designed to measure the reflected light levels, not the level from the light itself.
I began in film as a special effects artist, but noticed that the DPs on the films and TV shows I would be working on would use the meter this way and they explained to me how it should be measuring reflected light. Once I learned that trick, I was able to improve the light setting tremendously on my own projects. I was always pointing it towards the lights and wondered why the footage was always dark and this was a time before digital and film processing was a major budget concern, so getting the lighting right the first time was a huge time and money saver.
Anyway, I always enjoy your videos. Even after more than 40 years in film and television there is always much more to learn, especially in this digital age which evolves by the day.
You’re approaching camera choices with the wrong mind set.
You choose a camera on what it can do rather then the image quality. You chose a camera because it can shoot 5 or 8k (giving you more options in post) or because it has a higher Dynamic range, a higher or dual native ISO for low light options, a higher Max FPS for slow motion etc...
Lenses are the main component you need to pay attention when it comes to how your film looks.
On a side note: rent first. And only buy after your understand what a 40k camera gives you.
Chances are, you would have been just fine just getting an URSA Mini Pro for 6k. Still a Cine Camera In it’s own right.
Its me when get first time using After Effect and Premiere Pro.Kinda weird,dont same as Kinemaster when i have cheap smartphone
How can I buy a red camera in India
I would honestly love to hear you thoughts on the Mavo LF and Mavo Edge 8k
Jordy, had you come to NAB Show, you could have vented your frustrations directly to RED. They had a terrific suite with many employees onsite. I posted many photos of it on Instagram. Earlier that day, I met Kenta of RED in the elevator down at the SLS Hotel. We were both on our way to NAB Show that particular morning. He's the former Sony Alpha marketing head for North America. Now he's a big deal at RED. And you could have finally met Jayson Levine of Adobe who's looking forward to meeting you. Regards, Hakan
I talked to RED at IBC. They were very kind. I have no idea what went wrong though. I've heard their logistics got messed up because of the Brexit, which gave problems for the EU.
i like the light setup, is been long you guys did a tutorial on lights.
great video, information, and moral of the story! thanks for the video! out of curiosity, is that the Tokina 11-16 you have on the Red in this video?
Beneficial video. Thank you. Gives me an obvious direction in regards to a near future RED purchase. I'm grateful to be able to benefit from your experiences. Keep up the great content!
the calibration thing is not correct its called black shading on on a dragon sensor automatic is best and is covered from 1/8th to 200
Why all the long commercials now on youtube...
Lighting is key. Camera doesnt matter if you can't light.
Also your end game matters. What is your distribution platform? If you're staying on YT, fine, the h264 codec recording from your dslr is great but if you're going to TV or Projection in a DNxHD or ProRes or DCP, your dslr h264 blacks will break down and the footage will fall apart.
Even though I’m never buying one of those, it’s good to know about it... nice video, mate!
Jordy! I need help buying a camera. I want to buy a panasonic gh5s but I wonder if you know any camera that I get about the same result but cheaper.
can't you change the shutterspeed if you move from ha light spot to a dark one in one shot because you need to callibrate it?
hi, you're making great videos! can you tell me what kind of arm (zaccuto?) and setup you use to hold the 7" monitor? I guess the option to inverse monitoring upside/down is in the setup camera? thanks again!
what did you have to do to get your red looking great ? i'm having the same problem
Ursa Mini Pro G2 and at a fraction of the price. I appreciate you sharing your experience with us, good to know these things as a non Red owner thinking about upgrading down the road.
-Jay
Dude, your way to explain things is amazing. Big UP
i use premiere for most of my work, but for the projects that i shoot Log i like to go the extra step and grade them in resolve, the non destructive Color Transform plug in works a lot better than the usual log to rec709 LUT, you guys should give it a try, you can even access the raw tab and change the ISO, color space, temperature and much more with .r3d files
That camera is insane!! I just started a budget tech review and unboxing TH-cam page!! Hope to feature some awesome tech!
40 Grands, Got a iphone X model and Panasonic 4K video with 6K image shooter is best for budget
Totally agree with all what you said.
I'm looking forward to another RED review video from you in 6 moths time.
Why there are no subtitles anymore?
I remember you saying in a past video not to put your money in the camera body, sorry to hear you have been having issues with the RED😓
Why not in DaVinci Resolve ?
Why are you using Nikon lenses?
I mean, I have a Nikon too and was planning to switch on Canon, because Canon mount is more common on cinema cameras... Not considering PL
Is this camera you are using to film this the GH5???????????
So many problems. I have heard about many others that hve had complains about RED. When you spend so much money on a camera should it work from the start. For big productions the camera has to work perfect. No dead pixels etc. If it is one dead pixel it can ruin the quallity because all the other things is high quality. I getthat it is a cinema camera so they have people to just messure light, and asistants for the camera to change settings, grips, gaffers etc. so yeah it goes much work into getting it perfect. The camera is intended for that. RED is still a much better brand that for example Arri for people that operate the camera alone. I would love to learn about cinema cameras myself. It's a completely different world. The exposure thing sounds a bit complicated, but it has to be fun to learn much new about settings etc. on a camera again. If you can use a 200 Dollar DSLR, you can use a 8000 Dollar DSLR too, because it's kind of the same on all of them. I guess the RED Gemini worked great for the short film you made Jordy? On a short film, you have much better time to get it all perfect and pay attension to the details you normally wouldn't have time for. I am still a big fan of RED and your camera is future proof for a really long time. I don't think cinema cameras exchange like DSLR cameras does :-)
Scott is aweosme! Super helpful, he's a great dude.
Sounds like a struggle but also a great expedited learning curve! But in the time you waited to get it working a few more affordable Red competitors in the marked, check out the latest Kinefinity and Z-cam(6k & 8k models) and of course the BMPCC4K that alot of people are raving about ;)
Hit the nail on the head with Changing your scene to optimize camera performance is better than Changing Camera settings to optimize your scene.
Looking forward to today's Creative Tuesday!
I reccomend you to try Black magic URSA cameras, they seem more appropriate for your work.
DaVinci resolve is great for grading, but you might want to check out using proxy files to cut in premiere and grade raw i davinci. (DaVinci is free btw).
This is also moving closer to a professional kind of workflow. But if you got a little time, check out davinci :)
This is great and very helpful video. From somebody also considering buying a RED, you are giving me a lot to think about. Thank you!
Why not start with the blackmagic
Going through all that with a 40k camera? I’ll pass
Why not Arri?
@Jordy - hahaha,, I couldn't figure out why my channel was blowing up... Then one of your great subs commented "Jordy sent me here". Thank you for the shoutout. I can't wait for the next Red video.... Once you click to how everything works for you in Red, you'll be pulling stuff out you never saw before. Its a challenging road but you, my friend, are well on your way to making the Red sing. I look forward to all the great stuff you'll be putting out. Thanks again.
Thanks for the tips. It's already been going a lot better 😁
1 Corinthians 13:11: "When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I gave up childish ways."
Now you have a RED, behave like a man!
Never seen a video before where the question in the title is also answered in the title... creative (tuesday)😂
Cheeky little hypophora there. Very effective ;)
Jordy, catch!
So, in your opinion, what is the best dslr for capturing great footage? I know you might be biased because you use Panasonic, but I would like to know.
Why didn’t you just bought a arri Alexa mini or Amira (the red with all the assesories it costs the same as a arri
Harrald Postauto arri bodies are way expensive than red’s body
@@arnavodkaa but a re with all the equipment you need to start filming its the same
gh5 to eva1 or varycam is a natural step up .
Based on your experience, why didn't you try out a Blackmagic camera first?
my PC and software are so old that has issues processing even 1080p. so until I upgrade, no better cameras than 80D for me))
I am a beginner i want to shoot a Music Video so What Camera is your suggestion i a low budget
Have you ever considered purchasing an Arri?
wich was the setup to shot this video, the image is awesome!!!
IS PICTURE QUALITY SAME RED WITH ANY OTHER MIRRORLESS CAMERA??
hi jordy im watching your videos since 2016 whatever you did was awesome but can you kindly make a video on story telling more often we have good equipment and editing skills but i think without a story a well composed shot or high end editing is nothing thanks
Can you pls make video about editing a Helicopter in a Shot?
Editing a helicopter?
I mean putting a Helicopter in a Clip
Find a stock video and overlay it?
I tried that but it doesnt looked so good
well yes is a camera for filmmakers with nice tools the use of the light meter is essential even if you have a dslr is an advance camera excellent at last a camera for man not for mouse
Was expecting Jordy to say "Oh, fuck off. Whom Am I kidding. I definitely regret buying this stuff." any moment 😂 Didn't knew you could be this sarcastic as well.
Hey, I have a question about your studio. What are the sizes of your Studio, I'm just asking because I want to build my own studio and yours seems to have a good size. ; )
Was there a reason you didn't get a Blackmagic cinema camera instead? A lot less expensive, very similar results, better work flow, and far less of a learning curve.
for this price you can buy so many lights / ect
Thank you for your honest review
here is some tips if you are interested and want to learn but don't have money.
1)work for free ( Editing )
2)when you are editing videos of clients tell them that you want to assist camera man. ( They will not deny).
3) if you are assistance for that project, you get more experience. and thats what important.
4) increase your contacts by such work. work free for them and they will atleast give you camera for your project (Not commercial one)
5) And when you are ready , you can rent camera. after all client is paying all rent.
sorry for bad english ( Communication is more important thaan communication language)
I wanna buy a new camera mainly for filming and learning about cinematography and I'm thinking about buying a Sony A7III, does anyone have experience with this camera, is it worth buying?
jesus that reminds me of the linus tech video with the wort it red camera? video
I can edit Arri footage 1K to 4K on my Mac G5 with no problems in Final Cut Pro 6. Red so far has been the only footage that I can't convert R3D to ProRes 4444 or 422 HQ or even 422. None of my PCs which are also old can convert them either. I occasionally look on the net for a small free program but nothing so far. Even RedShitbombX from the Red site craps out on the 64bit PC. Merd!