Moza R5 Bundle Unaffiliated Unboxing and Review, PLUS Bonus content at the end!
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- My name is Seth aka BlackSheep I tend to race a few times a week and love sharing my experiences. If you like what you see please don't hesitate to hit that LIKE and SUBSCRIBE button.
Moza R5 SR-P lite brake mod - • Moza R5 SR-P Lite Brak...
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I7 11700F
RTX3060
Logitech Pro peripherals
SIM RIG-
MOZA R5 Direct drive wheel and pedals
AOC 27" triple monitor 120hz 1ms
Oculus Rift S for VR
Home made wooden sim rig (it evolves a lot)
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Finally someone that BOUGHT a Moza R5 and made a review! Amazing DIY brake mod! Thanks
Sim racing since 2001, been through all the low/mid hardware and have dabbled in high end gear in recent years. Spent a lot of money lost a few girlfriends (and a job, yeah I was bad) along the way but what I've learned when it comes to hardware is it's all about the correct resistances your body prefers. We're all different.
Pedals are the most important piece in any sim rig.
Doesn't matter whether it's a variable resistance potentiometer or a load cell it has to fit your strength and abilities... FEEL. Example I race in socks, always have and out of the box many sets will hurt your feet and seems impossible to hit 100% without tuning software. Some guys are untouchable using potents, look at Michi Hoyer in rF2 you can't catch him and he runs a Logitech.
Find your preference early, for me lighter less resistant pedals are better.
Bases. Bigger is not always better.
2011 Fanatec initially dropped the CSR Elite. I went all in and still use those pedals today. My ffb sweet spot is 3-4nm as I'm faster feeling subtle effects. Give me enough to understand, not so much it feels like mud. My heartrate and sweat will increase in an endurance but it will be from close racing, not fighting my hardware. The idea we need 20nm wheels is ridiculous, all the faster guys are dialing it back running fast sharp rims.
2023 and these entry level DD's are a no brainer. I wish they were around when I started and if you really feel you're going to end up falling down this rabbit hole do not waste resources on belt/gear driven options. Invest in a DD from the green flag and find your resistance preferences.
Great review BlackSheep, I've ordered an R5 bundle this morning as curiosity keeps me young. Happy racing friends.
What an amazing insight from someone with 22 years experience in sim racing! We really appreciate you taking the time to share your experiences. I agree 100% the "feel" of the brake and the pedals is #1 priority. This is why out of the box I modded the brake. The feedback from the wheel is subjective depending on how much information your brain needs to make the proper decisions and corrections. Great to hear you decided to get the R5 you defiantly won't be disappointed with the base. Unfortunately out the Box the SRP-lite Pedals leave a lot on the table. Luckily they now have the Performance brake kit which in my opinion is pretty much perfect for the lower end pedals. Thanks again!
@@BlackSheepG8 Thanks. I ordered this morning, how long did it take to receive for you?
I'm in Florida no info where they ship from.
Jason
I ordered Directly from Moza website. They do carry some stock in Nevada, but mine came from mainland China. Took about 3 to 4 weeks to get here. I never got any real shipping info until it made it through customs in the states, then it took about 4 days to arrive. I also paid for Express shipping through DHL for the R5 bundle. I ordered the Performance brake mod and it arrived from same location in China in about 2 weeks normal shipping LOL. Unfortunately I believe they do bulk shipping once a week from china.
@@BlackSheepG8 Very good info thanks. I'll figure on a month then.
must add: DD wheels hold their value much better than any ordinary wheel. if the wheel base isn’t to your tastes then you can return or sell it for less of a loss. overall, beginners please save your money and invest in an R5 or similar DD for the long term.
Good luck brother . Start of your journey ... have fun sim racing ...
Thank you brother appreciate you!
Looks like a solid product overall, I have a g29 and would want to upgrade over this, will try to get this over the T300. Great review. Cheers!
Definitely got a sub
Thanks for the brake mod tips
Thanks for the sub!
Glad you showed a table clamp solution, also putting this on a 2x4
You bet man it still a little low but that's the tightest profile I could make it. Without cutting and welding it.
I'm thinking of getting this bundle, the brake upgrade as well as the third pedal fpr the clutch. The base and wheel with the pedals is now on sale @ 469 USD
Been sim racing for a few months with my first wheel purchased second hand for £100, the Logitech G920! Been thinking of the R5 for a while now for the next step. Your review definitely gave me the right insight as we’ve both used the G920 and never tried a DD wheel before. Thank you
I really appreciate your feedback. I'm happy my review helped. Also I have a update on the brake mod a made. MOZA RACING has recognized the need for a damper and they will be offering a add on for the SR-P lite pedals. 😀
Just picked mine up, upgraded from a logi wheel. The wheel is night and day man, i do need the get the brake pedal upgrade. Microcenter has it on sale for black friday right now, 499!
@@brandond8728 Hey Brandon, Honestly the SR-P Lite pedals in the R5 Bundle are relatively terrible, If you can upgrade to the standard SRP’s or even as high as a set of Fanatec V3’s, you will see amazing improvements in your pace. It’s more to do with the pedals than the wheel, unless the wheel is broken like my old G920
@@amarokdcs1062 wouldn't you be able to use g920 pedals on r5?
No sir unless you find a way to hook them up via USB. Or keep your G920 plugged in and only use pedals.
Ah, I have finally found a sim racing reviewer with what I call the trustworthy accent.
Welcome aboard! I killer English and Austrilian accent too!!! LOL
The upgrade you made is the exact one I am considering. I started using the G920 just to see if I enjoyed using a wheel and loved the difference. Although I play more games like Forza Horizon then true sims although I do love Dirt 2.0 Great video. Looking forward to an update after using it for a few months. 😍
Thank you so much for the feedback, much appreciated! I have a lot of streams of me using it. I have branched out a little more and am Drifting in Assetto Corsa, its badass! But i do need to publish a update video!
@@BlackSheepG8 You should set up a vod channel for your TH-cam family. I am considering buying it myself.
Wow 1000% better than the g920, time to sell mine and get this bad boy
Hello! I am curious if you can provide measurements and specs for your homemade cockpit? Does it handle the DD wheel nicely without wobble?
12:56 Learning is fun! 😁
Can you make an guide how you made the wooden-rig? I am short on budget and I have decided to buy the R5 and make an diy-rig. Would appreciate it mate!
Yeah I can try to come up with something.
niccce
Servo motors are and should be compact..ie Simucude. I hated the bulky Logitec and plastic Thrustmaster bases..
Moza is working on a srp-lite accessory brake kit which is going to be available soon. Hoping it will be good..👍
Yes Sim Racing Den shared a preview of it they recieved. Good stuff from Moza. They really are trying hard.
@@BlackSheepG8 they have released the accessory brake kit now!
I ordered it last week when it went live on the website. I'll upload a review compared to my current mod.
@@BlackSheepG8 did you ever get that brake mod kit? How's it compared to the stock feel?
@@voongnz yes I have the brake performance mod and have it installed I have footage I filmed. I just need to get it edited and uploaded. But the Brake performance kit works awesome and the pit house software compliments it with their tuning.
Hi, don't you feel that these 5.5 Nm are not too little? I am thinking about buying r5 or r9 (i have t300)
I came from a Logitech G920 had like 2.2nm. I feel the big difference will be that it is a direct drive servo motor R5 and r9 react and move just has fast its the strength it can push you back it what the difference is and bluetooth. so it will respond immediately and quick. This wheel makes my hands tired and gives my back soreness.(not complaining) For me its enough but for other they may want alot more strength.
Mine is being shipped in three days and I'm going from the Xbox 360 steering wheel and pedals to the R5. I can't wait.
you can’t play in console
@@reefbrooker7415 oh I don't have any consoles anymore , the last console I bought was the PS3
@@chrono2959 ah ok,, ok thinking in buy moza or wait for cls dd, but i don’t know yet
@@reefbrooker7415 I went with mosa only because well mainly because it was in stock. I was originally thinking about getting the fanatec but I didn't want to wait till the end of April plus with that $50.00 Moza box I can buy fanatec stuff and use it on the mosa rig so can I get the best of both worlds.
@@chrono2959 yes, if i can’t get stock in abril i will get moza for sure, look better quality that fanatec
cool video, I just wish they had a load cell brake :(
Do the higher end CRP pedals have a loadcell brake? And a 2 step clutch pedal. I think 🤔 I agree, but look at it this way, buy the clutch pedal and the performance brake mod, and you have the SRP pedals essentially without the pedal plates. I have not used a loadcell brake, but it supposedly makes a bigger difference than direct drive does.
I made it very well by Moza in Chinese mainland, but I still chose to buy Simucube.😁😂
I don't think you made a bad choice at all. For me and my budget the R5 bundle was ideal.
Huge difference in price. The idea that we now can get direct drive wheels for a wide range of pricing is a good thing for sim racing.
Good work,, but try to Get some lights for unboxing.
Thank you, I appreciate the feedback! Those are facts lol
I do think the desk clamp is far to0 long for the common thickness of desktops and it just leaves an overly long mess above your knees or worse still between your legs so why not offer and shorter and longer clamp?
You have a very valid point. I think they wanted to cater to everyone. And maybe some inexperience on their part? I don't hit my knees much on them but I will probably cut and weld them shorter eventually.
@@BlackSheepG8 Good you can weld also most computer chairs swivel so we slide our legs sideways to get from under the desk and not spoil the position of the castors when we return,good review BTW.
Congrats ! Now get Asetto Corsa and get the real feel of good FFB 👍
Started drifting in asetto the other night its fun. Going to try a GT race soon
@@BlackSheepG8 How do you like the AC FFB ? Isnt it better than Iracing ?
They both have their points yes the road feels much better and under and over steer ate more noticable. I will say the pithouse software has alot to do with how the feedback feels in each sim
Hi. Im wondering is r5 a good choice for a first wheel? Never played on wheels, so i dont know what to think. So many people saying that 5.5 nm is low, but its more, than T300RS that i wanted to buy before i saw moza r5. Not gonna be professional sim racer, at least for now. Want to play Dirt Rally, Assetto Corsa, Forza Horizon, etc.
The R5 is a servo motor so has far has a first wheel its probably the best choice in its price point. I will say in my honest opinion the R5 is better than any logitech or thrustmaster aside from their Direct drive counter parts. Thrustmaster hasnt released theirs yet but it will be 10nm or better I'm sure.
@@BlackSheepG8 Thanks for reply! Now im thinking maybe its better to gather more money and go r9 with sr-p loadcell pedals, because r5 has no upgrade potential
Actually they just released a brake pedal mod for the SRP lite pedals this week. It's 29$ add on but looks just like what I made. And they do have a ecosystem the main difference in the eco system for the r5 and r9 is the r5 does not have Bluetooth. So at the moment only wheels that can be used with the r5 are the ES and the FSR (super king Kong Kamehameha badass GT F1 wheel). Moza also offers a quick release so you can have your own wheel if you want. They sell their own or it's same has the NRG automotive quick release. You can even find knock offs on Ebay for 30$. So the Moza economy system is upgradable just have to know the ins and outs.
@@BlackSheepG8 thank you very much
Should I get this or the R9 with a car rim on a quick release adapter and use my g29 pedals
Get the R9 and install the load cell kit in your G29, or get the Moza SR-P pedals which come with a load cell. The R5 bundle comes with pedals that are non load cell so they are just filler.
SR-P pedals are only $180 for accelerator and brake, $220 for clutch included.
So if you don't mind modifying the brake like I have the R5 bundle is amazing. If you feel you will need a load cell in the future then get the R9 and upgrade pedals later either way you can't go wrong imo
What is the quality settings with a 3060 with triples and the average frame rate?
Really depends on game and track I always aim to keep my FPS above 100. Like on Daytona road course on the oval I get over 100fps and on the infield it hovers between 80 and 90 fps. I have the EVGA 3060TI so I can't overclock it.
I can't believe the G323 is still $350...I order my R5 bundle with brake kit for $565 total....pretty sure that's a synth leather, which doesn't matter as I use gloves.
Your 100% correct those wheels have made them millions at the selling point with very little to no updates in production since the G27. Specially since G29 through the G923. Mostly software upgrades. They say it's real leather (doesn't smell like real) but it feels like synthetic too. I will say the sticking placement on the ES wheel kinda make you want to wear gloves sometimes. LOL
If I were to buy any moza racing product from their website but it was shipped internationally to the US does anyone have a clue as to if I'd be paying an import tax or not?
So I have had 2 orders from Moza in China. The R5 bundle I paid $150 for express shipping because it had insurance. The second order I just let it ship domestically. Was about $10 if that helps
moza now sells a break upgrade kit
It's much more expensive than a T300 RS GT, would you guys say that DD is worth the extra price?
1000% worth every penny!
@@BlackSheepG8 I'll take your word for it then! I will have to buy a shifter seperately right?
Yeah unfortunately, I'm still using paddle shifter on wheel. Moza just announced a shift last week.
@@BlackSheepG8 i hope you'll do a review on it as well
iv had my moza r5 bundle this week it lasted about 3 days and now the base is absolutely toast broke in under a week disappointed to say the least especially after buying a full new rig the rest is now useless without the wheel and base
i’m hoping they can replace this for me quickly so it doesn’t change my opinion on the brand i was really happy untill i had this issues
Moza customer support is great I cant speak about their speed. But if you just purchased I know they will cover it. Amazing did you do something radical with setting or something? I've put my R5 through the paces for hours racing max ffb and settings in iracing that are below clipping. I've also drifted for hours with it. Possibly a defective servo.
i first thought i want to buy the r5 and sell the pedals and wheel and get the formula wheel but its too expensive
Yeah the FSR wheel is very expensive. But you can also get a Quick connect and add it to any wheel you want. 3d printed whatever. You can get a quick connect for 30$ on ebay
@@BlackSheepG8 ooh I didn’t know… I will look into it but it needs to be not too powerful so it breaks my playseat challenge so I will maybe buy the r5
I have the R5 mounted to a wooden rig I built. It actually gives a haptic feel through the rig. Also you may not need to get rid of the pedals I'm currently reviewing and testing their brake damper add on for the pedals and it is very impressive the difference.
@@BlackSheepG8 I have tlcm pedals right now so it’ll probably be a downgrade
Do you think 5Nm is too weak or just enough?
Man! That's a tough question for me to answer. I'll say this, the G920 made me sore but most likely from bad seating position. Now I've been racing with this R5 since September of 2022 and my left Rhomboid minor has been sore so much I've had to slow down racing, to try and let it heal some. With that being said, alot of users who have experienced both the R5 and the R9 say the force the detail gets finer with the R9 but most lower the force in the pithouse software because its too much. I believe its more about detail of the feeling from the wheel than the wheels strength beating you up.
@@BlackSheepG8 thanks man. Have been playing racing game on controllers for years😂 and planing to get a wheel soon. Haven’t tried 920 before,so I think R5 can be good enough or even too much to handle already.
Does it work well with BeamNG ?
It does work with beamNG will need to setup force feedback there's alot of videos showing how to do that
I dont like the peddles.. Love to find something better that doesn't cost as much as the R5 itself lol
I have been looking at the Fanatec CSL elite V2. They are a loadcell brake and Priced at $300 new.
But is it really better than Xbox 360 wheel? You must be RICH!
Loaded! Cause 600$ is rich people's monies 🤣🤣
Moza is the counterfeit of Fanatec.
Maybe so but their cleaning house on the entry Direct drive market
video is too dark
Thanks for the feedback I will improve in the future.