Thanks a lot, Luis! I followed your steps and found out the reason why my horn didn't work was also due to the clock spring. Especially what you did for testing the combination relay was very helpful. Now it's working again after replacement, thanks a lot!
good morning luis done loads of Nissan elgrands common problem horn on clock spring opened up an found micro fractures all along ribbon they use a bypass system that runs the ribbon around a roller as you turn the steering wheel continually bending the copper tracks causing them to work harden and then fracture as a import original clock spring impossible to get and when you can very pricy so managed to get everything working with one matched from a Nissan Navara there are a few different types
its an mot pass no question about it. The tester would get points on his licence for that AND the presenter would win any appeal. You cant just invent a reason for rejection it has to come from the mot testers manual. All the tester does is test to vosa standards
It is interesting how MOT/inspections differ from country to country... But hey, when an airbag light not coming on when the ignition is turned on is a pass... Anything is possible...😋 👍👍👍
@@LMAutoRepairs It's a pass and advice Louis. Stupid really if it's on it's a fail! but if pre check itr dont work its a p&A At least if lights on you know its not gonna work. BUT Mil light not pre checking is a fail, ?????
Good job boss but I have to ask you something ihave 2020 Toyota hilux gd6 2.4 diesel car was water damage after ican change ecu culster and in side fusebox now car is start and drive now ihave problem central locking not working with the key it's working only switch I try to do manually Program the remote but not response can ihave to generate the remote aging or waht we can do tell me boss please
Hi Luis. There are some good prices for diagnoses tools. Can you recomand one? Do you use the Autel MK906Pro? If i remember good you said something about an autel pro tool in some old video. Thanks,and all the best.
Well, I would just argue that although was easy reach, you would might need to palpably look for it... that could instinctively make you to take the eyes of the road to look for it as well... I am not sure what the rules are on that... All I know was that this one was failed because of it... 👍👍👍
@@LMAutoRepairs That placement of the horn switch is no more stupid than having the horn on the indicator stork like Ford do on some of their vehicles.
That seperate button for the horn IS NOT a fail! It's fully acceptable as some screen wash motor would be. The presenter should appeal that wrong decision, he would win as there is no RFR (reason for refusal) for a switch in the wrong position it's ridiculous! Ask the tester for the RFR there isn't one
@@drivewasher you show me where it says if the marked horn doesn't work to press every button on the dashboard to find a temporary horn, my argument is if they had marked it it would be easier to spot.
@@Alanw74 you can’t just make rfr’s up we have to use a dedicated reason for refusal that’s actually in the manual. It a pass all day long. I might advice it as well. Still a pass
Agree, I am normally a VW guy but what these things are capable of is simply mind blowing. Around here, they are being used as company cars for forestry companies and then bought by people to haul wood, some being basically used as forwarders. Indestructible stuff, they have an oil level light on the dash for a reason. Basically the only maintenance they get is the oil topped up when the light comes on.
Interesting, technically, if the car failed the MOT you are not supposed to drive it unless to a place to get it fixed, even if there is some MOT left, once it has failed it shouldn't be driven until it passes again.
@1australianbeacon 😅 You have clearly not watched the video... Don't make a fool of yourself with pointless comments... If you had watched, you would know how wrong you are... You have no idea... 👍👍👍
@LMAutoRepairs i gave up you took to long explaining other thing that was irrelevant. You didn't even know what relays you were looking at.. learn from your mistakes.. the steering wheel works when you turn the wheel explain that is 1 min.... not on a tangit... dust on contacts id say..
@1australianbeacon You are still wrong... That's why it is important to explain things, especially for people like you, who like to just assume things... I explain whatever I want for the length of time I want... If you want to make wrong assumptions because you don't want to spend some extra time learning, then don't... I know what a relay does, but yes, I don't know what every relay is for, nor you do, nor anyone... I am humble enough to know what I don't know, and learn as I go along... 👍👍👍
@LMAutoRepairs no you are wrong.. your the one who gives the type of Fuel used when talking about a faulty Horn. 🤣 you could hear the light come on as you said it. Simple Jack.😚🤣
Why do people do that It's actually harder to put in the aftermarket switch instead of just replacing whatever is damaged it just don't make any sense It's not like it's complicated that's an old car It uses simple systems just a switch/clockspring relay and fuse simple
And it is also unfair to the customer. Feeding them the line "it would be very tricky to fix so I've bypassed it" is basically admitting "I am a clueless fella and can't/am too lazy to figure out a simple wiring diagram". And still, they charged labour and parts for the "repair", I can imagine...
I really dont understand this. Such a simple solution, they just needed to check a few simple things.. but no.. like 30 seconds in, my thought was "clock spring" and then Luis is like "likely a clockspring, but lets check". I think to my self... I am a DIYer who is getting skilled a this stuff. How people who do this for a living miss such simple things? it just baffles me...
@@LMAutoRepairs hej Sir i want Ask about i have Citroën c4 Grand picasso 1.8 patrol Code is P 0170 Fuel Trim Bank 1 On display Depollution System faulty Can you tel me what is the problem and where i Can find fault Thanks in advance
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Thanks a lot, Luis! I followed your steps and found out the reason why my horn didn't work was also due to the clock spring. Especially what you did for testing the combination relay was very helpful. Now it's working again after replacement, thanks a lot!
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Glad it helped you!
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Thanks for this video. Not only did you help me solve the problem (bad earth), but I also learnt a lot about testing and my Hilux.
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That's great!
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Toyota call that black box the "combination relay" - common on this era of Toyota.
Great diagnosis Louis.
Thanks for the info!
And for watching!
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Hey Luis!
Great work as always and fascinated how you initially diagnosed the horn issue without maxisys.
Keep up the excellent work !
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good morning luis done loads of Nissan elgrands common problem horn on clock spring opened up an found micro fractures all along ribbon they use a bypass system that runs the ribbon around a roller as you turn the steering wheel continually bending the copper tracks causing them to work harden and then fracture as a import original clock spring impossible to get and when you can very pricy so managed to get everything working with one matched from a Nissan Navara there are a few different types
Nice one...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
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Top job Luis. Good on the MOT tester, bodging is a no-go, why bodge it if you can fix it.
Exactly!
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its an mot pass no question about it. The tester would get points on his licence for that AND the presenter would win any appeal. You cant just invent a reason for rejection it has to come from the mot testers manual. All the tester does is test to vosa standards
It is interesting how MOT/inspections differ from country to country...
But hey, when an airbag light not coming on when the ignition is turned on is a pass...
Anything is possible...😋
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@@LMAutoRepairs It's a pass and advice Louis. Stupid really if it's on it's a fail! but if pre check itr dont work its a p&A At least if lights on you know its not gonna work. BUT Mil light not pre checking is a fail, ?????
@@LMAutoRepairs AND if the presenter tells the tester that the high level stop light has been DISCONNECTED thats a P&A even though its not working
Customer always lose on botched repairs but no one understands it..anyways bom trabalho doutor luis
Agree...
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Obrigado!
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Good job boss but I have to ask you something ihave 2020 Toyota hilux gd6 2.4 diesel car was water damage after ican change ecu culster and in side fusebox now car is start and drive now ihave problem central locking not working with the key it's working only switch I try to do manually Program the remote but not response can ihave to generate the remote aging or waht we can do tell me boss please
Hi, I need an ecu repair how can I contact you?
Always learn from you Luis!!! Where can I buy your uni T scope?? Cant find that exact one!
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Hi Luis. There are some good prices for diagnoses tools. Can you recomand one? Do you use the Autel MK906Pro? If i remember good you said something about an autel pro tool in some old video. Thanks,and all the best.
Yes I mentioned the one I have on other videos... the MS908P...
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what model is your maxisys im intrestest in getting one. great work cheers
MS908P
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Cheers thanks
I like the timing belt reminder :)
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The mot tester is wrong as long as it has a horn switch anywhere within range of easy reach
Well, I would just argue that although was easy reach, you would might need to palpably look for it... that could instinctively make you to take the eyes of the road to look for it as well...
I am not sure what the rules are on that...
All I know was that this one was failed because of it...
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@@LMAutoRepairs That placement of the horn switch is no more stupid than having the horn on the indicator stork like Ford do on some of their vehicles.
MOT é tipo a IPO de cá em Portugal?
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Sim... a inspecção...
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@@LMAutoRepairs também é anual?
Sim... excepto carros novos... em que o primeiro é quando carro atinge 3 anos...
A partir daí todos os anos...
That seperate button for the horn IS NOT a fail! It's fully acceptable as some screen wash motor would be. The presenter should appeal that wrong decision, he would win as there is no RFR (reason for refusal) for a switch in the wrong position it's ridiculous! Ask the tester for the RFR there isn't one
Correct Steve ,
It's not marked as a horn so is a failure
@@Alanw74 Rubbish, show me in the manual where it says a horn button has to marked hor, or any other switch or button for that matter
@@drivewasher you show me where it says if the marked horn doesn't work to press every button on the dashboard to find a temporary horn, my argument is if they had marked it it would be easier to spot.
@@Alanw74 you can’t just make rfr’s up we have to use a dedicated reason for refusal that’s actually in the manual. It a pass all day long. I might advice it as well. Still a pass
Excellent video thanks
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Good morning habebe
I like this car
I know all kind of problem in it and i fixed soo many hiluxes before
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Agree, I am normally a VW guy but what these things are capable of is simply mind blowing. Around here, they are being used as company cars for forestry companies and then bought by people to haul wood, some being basically used as forwarders. Indestructible stuff, they have an oil level light on the dash for a reason. Basically the only maintenance they get is the oil topped up when the light comes on.
Hole crisis there's no fuse 😱😱😱🔊🔉🔈 🔥🔥🔥
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Interesting, technically, if the car failed the MOT you are not supposed to drive it unless to a place to get it fixed, even if there is some MOT left, once it has failed it shouldn't be driven until it passes again.
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Only if it fails for a ''Dangerous'' and it still has a current mot .
On the inside of the fuse box it tells you which fuse is which
@@neilmurphy845 yer he didn't know this.🤣🤣🤣 der..
I have this problem but horn works when turning right
This the most common problem dust gets behind the contacts . That what every hilux that has horn trouble finds out.this guy has no idea...
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You have clearly not watched the video...
Don't make a fool of yourself with pointless comments...
If you had watched, you would know how wrong you are...
You have no idea...
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@LMAutoRepairs i gave up you took to long explaining other thing that was irrelevant. You didn't even know what relays you were looking at.. learn from your mistakes.. the steering wheel works when you turn the wheel explain that is 1 min.... not on a tangit... dust on contacts id say..
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You are still wrong...
That's why it is important to explain things, especially for people like you, who like to just assume things...
I explain whatever I want for the length of time I want...
If you want to make wrong assumptions because you don't want to spend some extra time learning, then don't...
I know what a relay does, but yes, I don't know what every relay is for, nor you do, nor anyone...
I am humble enough to know what I don't know, and learn as I go along...
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@LMAutoRepairs no you are wrong.. your the one who gives the type of Fuel used when talking about a faulty Horn. 🤣 you could hear the light come on as you said it. Simple Jack.😚🤣
Thanks good Job.
Thanks!
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Why do people do that It's actually harder to put in the aftermarket switch instead of just replacing whatever is damaged it just don't make any sense It's not like it's complicated that's an old car It uses simple systems just a switch/clockspring relay and fuse simple
Exactly...
There is more effort in bodge it, than actually repair it properly...
Go figure...🤷♂️
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And it is also unfair to the customer. Feeding them the line "it would be very tricky to fix so I've bypassed it" is basically admitting "I am a clueless fella and can't/am too lazy to figure out a simple wiring diagram". And still, they charged labour and parts for the "repair", I can imagine...
Indeed...
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Who’d have thought fixing a horn would be so fascinating 👀👍🏻🔧
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80k Luis 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
Indeed...
Next the 100k...
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Toyoty doesn't break.This is some kind sabotage.
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It actually looks like it..
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Ya it an easy job to change,’?
I really dont understand this. Such a simple solution, they just needed to check a few simple things.. but no.. like 30 seconds in, my thought was "clock spring" and then Luis is like "likely a clockspring, but lets check". I think to my self... I am a DIYer who is getting skilled a this stuff. How people who do this for a living miss such simple things? it just baffles me...
Ir baffles me too...🤷♂️
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
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Nice
Thanks!
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@@LMAutoRepairs hej
Sir i want Ask about i have Citroën c4 Grand picasso 1.8 patrol
Code is P 0170 Fuel Trim Bank 1
On display Depollution System faulty
Can you tel me what is the problem and where i Can find fault Thanks in advance
Check for air leaks etc...
It is not as simple as tell you where the problem is... that might be caused by different things...
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I hate people who make such things, why should you start modifying by putting a push button.
Me too...
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Another Toyota ruined by user error 🤣
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I hope you didn’t tell him why the fault light was on seeing as he messed you about 😉🤣
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I'm facing intermittent horn issue on Toyota hilux 2014
Could be the same issue...
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I'll check that first and inspect thoroughly if no dust, dirt or other physical contact misbehaving, thank you for helping video 🤗
But how pay for the time to put back all the things 2 times?
What is going on with Luis costumer or no petrol or this...
Lol
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That's ridiculous if I was the customer I wouldn't rush the mechanic
with no mot ?
As explained... it failed due to how the horn was working...
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@@LMAutoRepairsyes i understand that but you did say he needed the van meaning he was driving it without a valid mot .
Yes... and that is not my problem...
Was him that was taking the risk...
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@@LMAutoRepairs yes totally agree. Grate Respect dear sir .Boa noite my wife is Portuguese
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Say Olá from here!
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meep meep....
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