HP Spectre X360 16" Review - It's BIGGER but Better?
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- 2024 HP Spectre X360 16" 2-in-1 Review! Its a bigger version of the awesome HP Spectre X360 14 that I absolutely love. Unfortunately it's missing a key featur that can easily be fixed.
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What do you guys think of the HP Spectre X360 16" ?
This looks good. As a linux user, I would want an AMD version and 32GB of memory.
it is not bios related at all most hp laptops come with the bios set up to run the cpu as fast as it can and give it all the power it wants. all of the slowing down happens inside windows. so the hp command center and my hp app or whatever they have can act really weird. you can just reinstall windows or run the two removal scripts that are located inside the intel extreme tuning utility install folder. then that performance or cool things wont be available anymore but all of the power limits will be removed and fans will run only run up to the max of the default profile. so the cpu and gpu will use as much power it wants but it wont cut from. the cpu gpu power balance wont be an issue it will still do the balancing correctly. this means if you run some cpu only stuff the cpu can run insanely hast and you will get the fastest result ever from that model of cpu (inside the cooling limitations of course)
(sorry for commenting this more than once i just wanted you to see it)
is this really the case?@@teomantedu i have the 16" and i really want to figure out how to make this feel punchier than it currently does. Its been a bit shocking with how poor the battery life is as compared to how it is touted. Additionally performance is really not great either :(
@@TheNewSynchronicity for the battery life try disabling the battery optimization thing in the bios settings. that feature limits the battery to how much it wants usually. you can just use it without that that feature it just limits the battery to preserve its life. its not a problem to have it off.
@@TheNewSynchronicity doing the things i said for the intel xtu limiting is great everything will still work great but the long term power limit will still be at the intel’s tdp but you i dont know if this will wotk for you cus i have envy, you can use OmenMon to set it to performance mode and then you can just quit omenmon. that and no intel xtu will enable it to use as much power as it can and it will not slow down till it hits the thermal limit
That webcam is actually really impressive. Did a double take to make sure it was the webcam.
MY DUDE, thanks for the lap test, that helps A LOT
I be waiting for that short vedio. Thanks for the great efforts 🎉🎉
This was the best review ever. One thing I was wondering about was that the geekbench score of Spectre 16 was lower than that of Spectre 14. From this video, we found out pl1 problem spectre 16 has under 30w pl1 setting. So Hp have to make spectre 16 pl1 to 45w. Notebookcheck benchmark has mean 155h have the best performance at 45w. 😊😊
Wow great news, ordered the 16 inch model after watching 14 inch reviews. I hope this issue doesn’t happen with all units or it’s at least fixable
Will it still work if your printer ink runs out? 😄
Excellent review 👍👍
how do the specters compare to the new windows laptops with the 14th gen intel? any recommendations for other manufacturers? a 16 inch screen would be nice.
Between the 14 and 16 inch variant of this spectre, which one would you recommend/go for?
You actually did what I asked😂speaker comparison. Thank you Mat
Youre welcome!
@MatthewMoniz would you recommend the hp spectre 16 over the m3 pro 16inch MacBook pro?
@@sadboykratos5137 I’m comparing those two as well! So I’d be interested to know which you’d recommend as well
@@VNaik713 I ended up with the MacBook Air base model m3 13.6”
@@MatthewMoniz I just ordered the ASUS - ROG Zephyrus G16 (2024) 16" OLED 240Hz Gaming Laptop - Intel Core Ultra 9 - 16GB LPDDR5X - GeForce RTX 4070 - 1TB SSD - Eclipse Gray which cost $1699.99 thinks to the sale at best buy. Should I keep that when it arrives or should I return and get the lenovo yoga pro 9i from bestbuy when it's available or get the hp spectre 16 with 32gb of ram and 4050 which is on sale now for $1699.99? I can't afford more than $1699.99. Like will the asus be reliable
Awesome vid ! Will you be reviewing the hp omen transcend 14 any time soon ?
Yes probably early March
Thanks a lot. I'm just thinking about buying this laptop.
I appreciate your honest reviews Matt. This one clearly is not ready for prime time.
no you can run the intel xtu removal scripts that are in the intel xtu install folder and it will run as fast as it can. it will only be thermally limited wich means it will get up to the 90C's
Hey Matt, the other review on TH-cam reportedly HP will push an update which it's supposed to fix performance tests & more CPU issues.
Hey man I shortlisted 3 laptops, Asus ROG zephyrus G16, HP spectre x360 14/16. I appreciate your review it helps me to decide between them. I am gonna hold a little bit longer so more reviews can come in. In short Thank you for your reviews
Might wanna consider the upcoming dell xps's too, they look really clean.
@@penssytestsy9581 but the screen refresh rate is disgusting
How could you tell the manufacture date BEFORE purchasing from the HP site? It is the HP Spectre x360 2-in-1 Laptop 16-f2097 build.And would this build have the update? Is there a slot to add more ram? Thanks.
Got the 2023 model with arc 370m gpu, battery life is in the 6-8 hour’s ish, but powerful laptop with beautiful 4k oled screen.
I have very bad experience with terrible coil whine /static noise in HP laptops. Can you hear something similar in your unit?
I love it irregardless of performance and battery issues.
Should revisit once the Bios updates
I will!
Thank you for reviewing what really matters. The sticker placement is a make or break feature. Better sticker = more FPS.
It might be a stupid question but did you put the laptop on charge while bench marking it? I have specter 15 2021 and it needs to be on charge if you want to utilize the full power of the laptop on performance mode.
Of course laptops are always plugged into the wall. This ain’t my first rodeo :P
I know it’s been a month but did you end up making a short to the video seeing as this ended with you saying don’t buy it yet?
please make comparison video to this and asus rog flow x16
Is the charging port soldered to the motherboard?? That has absolutely screwed me on my current laptop.
Hardworking Matt! When I am buying a new top laptop, I won't get it without your recommendation!
Thanks man I appreciate it! Always happy to help
Can someone please suggest which colour looks better for spectre - blue or black?
That's a nice table you have there.
Why thank you!
How do you put the pen in pairing mode for Bluetooth pairing?
I like your take on not needing a numpad. if you work with numbers a lot the best choice is an usb mechanical numpad on the left side.
Exactly num pads are very dangerous and responsible for billions of Dollars of losses for financial firms. This is one of the reasons of numpads going away.
The question is, did they improve their hinges?
Please sir can you review the Galaxy book 3 series and if possible the book 4 series too I'll be grateful cuz I really want to see how it stacks up to the competition ❤
Please test a few key games and examine the rog g16 (2024).Please review the 4070 device with 32 GB of RAM if at all possible.
Interesting review
will you contact hp about the performance issue? That's not normal.. It doesn't seem to be able to hit full load
They are already aware I mentioned it before putting out the review. I’ll definitely submit a short once it’s fixed. Thanks for joining by the way! Much appreciated
@@MatthewMoniz you only have yourself to thank! great content man
I'm typing from this very device. My specific 2-and-1 being the 16 inch, 32 gigs ram, 1TB storage, and RTX 4050.
Very happy with my purchase.
The keyboard is FANTASTIC
The Battery life is solid - I'm averaging around 10 hours on full charge.
Downside - Finger prints love this screen and no micro SD slot is disappointing as the reviewer here rightly points out.
But as a finance professional I admire the great big screen, ability to read newspapers, articles, and take notes in Tablet mode while also having a battery life that last's my full day of work.
It was between this and the Dell XPS for me. But the 2-and-1 functionality made the decision for me.
Up to which GPU can you upgrade? Where I am looking to buy it, it either comes with a RTX 4050 laptop or Intel Arc Integrated GPU.
From online GPU comparisons it looks like the Intel Arc GPU is better?
Do you have any experience with heavy GPU workloads such as gaming on this laptop?
I also am a finance professional, and I just bought the XPS 15 OLED today… but I’m wondering if I made the right choice
I was thinking of buying this laptop to upgrade from my 2016 model, but after watching this, im not too sure not due to reasons specified in the video. Can anyone comment whether these issues have been resolved with this laptop??
Does It work with passive pen?
Please make a comparison video between Samsung Galaxy book 3 pro 360 & HP Spectre intel core i7 x360 14inch (2024)
What is could be the battery life of a 16 with Intel GPU?
If you're down to solving the performance mystery, with Throttlestop you can see what the PL1 and PL2 are in the TPL menu by default and crank them to theoretical max, but HP always locks down the PL1's, so you'll probably bypass the soft limit on PL1 but not the hard one. On my Spectre 16 2021 it's PL1'd hard at 40w, but I suspect they should've raised that cap much much higher since the Spectre 14.0 can do 36w by now
Ya I spoke to HP they are aware and have confirmed the CPU is throttling during certain workloads. They are working on a fix
@MatthewMoniz so there's a chance thus will be as.performant as the 14"???
How's the hinge doing 😜?
Samsung Book Ultra 4 Original this? Van you help me?
I have the 2019 version of this laptop and I still love it, even though I just bought a new Lenovo Legion 7i with higher specs. Many times when I'm going to sit at a coffee shop for awhile, I prefer to bring my HP Spectre rather than the Lenovo because the Spectre will run circles around the Lenovo when it comes to battery life. Like three times or more longer. I guess that's the difference between having a i7 CPU and NVidia 1050 GPU compared to a i9 and 4070. On top of that, the HP is noticeably lighter. The main negative for my version of the Spectre is that when playing games, the poor little 1050 GPU is working its arse off and you can feel it in the amount of heat it generates. Like hot enough where you don't want it sitting on your lap. Unless you like 3rd degree burns. A secondary effect from this is shorter battery life before needing to plug in. I get about 2.5 hours of game time before needing to plug in. The Lenovo gets only 2.5 hours just surfing the web or watching YT videos. When playing games, it gets about 1.5 hours.
another reviewer also stated the the overall CPU performance was indeed
worse than the 14 inch
What would you suggest, go for the 16" with integrated Arc GPU or the one with 4050? I don't really play GPU intensive games that much (just Valorant and CS)...
It depends if you prioritize battery life or not. Obviously, the GPU version consumes more battery.
@@MFHRaptor I think getting 7+ hours of battery is just about enough for the day for me and both of them tick that box so...
Also I just want to know which one is better for its price, since in my country the 4050 varient costs 2400$ and the intel Arc one costs 2100$. Is it worth getting the 4050 over the Arc even though I won't really be utilising the GPU much?
Depends on the use case AI, ML models training or video editing or GPU use cases then better to have 4050 version else buy regular one. More than the price it’s the use case which matters.
Hi, could you kindly tell me if the SSD can be changed?
and please the precise name of the model and how much read/write speed it has, I saw on the official website that it is TLC and it worried me a bit that it might be slow, would you be very kind if you give me this info thanks
hi.. I am using this laptop for last 4 months. They will send laptop with hynix ssd. You can use any m.2 nvme. I replaced hynix with Samsung 990 pro 2tb. And it's working quite good. Recently received few updates from intel and few days back received update for firmware from hp.
Did that Bios update ever happen? Strongly condsidering upgrading from my 2018 Spectre.
Not yet! They are almost done fixing it. They sent out an email to us a few days ago that it will be out shortly. They said they want to make sure they get it right.
Oohhhh, this might fix the performance issue?1
@@MatthewMoniz Oh nice, so, now, it's a good thing to buy it ?
Its out as of 2 days ago
@@PixogenPixels Oh nice ! Does fix the problems have the HP Spectre x360 "16 ?
what's the differences between lg gram pro 2in1 and this one？😂thank you
My guess is that since the battery is the same as the 14" they are pulling performance back a bit to keep battery life up. Would've been nice to put in a larger battery
My contact at HP just emailed me earlier today and its in fact a CPU throttling issue with certain workloads. They are working on a fix and will push an update out
@@MatthewMonizI see. If this were a pinned comment up top would give people some peace & will rather wait for this update reel 🙂👍🏼
How do you think the integrated arc gpu does in comparison to the 4050?
not even close
I'm quite shocked by that battery life. Was expecting it to be a bit better than the 14", not a lot worse.
My friend purchased 16" spectre 2024 and he said battery life is One and a half days.
HP claims 15 hours of battery life using "MobileMark 25" which is more than 14"
I think it has software issues.
Was that with the arc gpu or nvidia??
@@gabennewell8494 his laptop has RTX 4050. Wait for Andrew Marc David review.
Found the HP sales rep
no HDMI port in 14 inch version
So, nice review, but another one i dont want.
Which to pic if i wanna have:
- 14"-16" inch
- ca. 100% Adobe RGB
- Convertible
- Numblock (nice to have)
- SD Card Reader 4.0
- TB4
- RJ45
- GPU
- CPU up do date
- no plastic
- QUIET (close as possible)
I need help 🙂
I don't know how they do it but how can no one beat the mac's audio quality. I mean the spectre is pretty good. But mac is just different and clean.
This or galaxy book4 pro 360????
3:40 is haptic material ? I'm confused
Yes it’s a haptic touchpad
Ports aren't identical. The 14" doesn't include chassis HDMI port, but the dongles give that.
Liked the previous Spectres.
The design and looks, I mean.
Looked far more stunning.
Hey is that a laptop on your lap or are you just happy to see eh someone?
I am not a comic.
As i mentioned on your Instagram post, where is the gold? Show me the gold! FFS!
The prices here are insane, 2200+ euros for 16GB of RAM, 512GB of SSD and the igpu. You can get a laptop, perhaps not a 2 in 1, for half the price with a dedicated GPU which will smoke this.
I like HP, but r u kidding?
I am not getting into the performance issue.
Great video man.
Those have to be some serious software issues for that bad battery and performance
Does it have a finger print sensor ??
yes, integrated with power button.
Battery life is letdown.. not good for a brand new CPU. Another user mentioned same for the new galaxy book 4. Minimum 10 hours is a must to leave the charger home. and why hp can't make it smaller, like Samsung chargers 1 cable only. Thanks for the review
6:33 👍 👍 👍
Tx Buddy
Thank you!
To me the microphones still sound much worse compared the ones found in MacBooks. Especially with Voice Isolation turned on it’s not even close. The microphones in the Spectre have this typical hollow laptop microphone sound that makes online conferences even more exhausting. It’s not entirely terrible. But with Voice Isolation activated on my MacBook Air I have to use headphones to hear the difference between the build in mics and my Elgato Wave usb microphone and that is very good. It‘s a pity that the Windows side of the laptop world still hasn’t caught up by now… Are there any Windows laptops that are actually competitive in this regard?
I think the color not nightfull black!! It’s a slate blue 🤍
you need to plug the battery in and turn it on hahah
Numpads kill the ergomics you can't type centered even the trackpad is shifted off. No laptop should ever have it. if you are an account get a Bluetooth numpad which will be more comfy anyway
Some people like numpad layouts. Everyone is different🤷♂️
You are making a very good point Sir!
Some people like me have software (Musescore and Sibelius) which have shortcuts with numpads
Sticker man 😂😂
it is not bios related at all most hp laptops come with the bios set up to run the cpu as fast as it can and give it all the power it wants. all of the slowing down happens inside windows. so the hp command center and my hp app or whatever they have can act really weird. you can just reinstall windows or run the two removal scripts that are located inside the intel extreme tuning utility install folder. then that performance or cool things wont be available anymore but all of the power limits will be removed and fans will run only run up to the max of the default profile. so the cpu and gpu will use as much power it wants but it wont cut from. the cpu gpu power balance wont be an issue it will still do the balancing correctly. this means if you run some cpu only stuff the cpu can run insanely hast and you will get the fastest result ever from that model of cpu (inside the cooling limitations of course)
Have you test this method on this model?
@@user-qv1ex6lt2j no but they mostly work the same way it isnt like they completely rewriting bioses for each products
Its 100% bios related. I just received an email from my contact at HP. They confirmed that the CPU is incorrectly throttling during certain workloads and are working on a fix.
"I am not saying don't buy it... but don't buy it"
Is it 16:10 aspect ratio?
Yup!
battery life is a complete deal breaker. btw, I've checked the HP website and this unit doesn't come with a pen
yea doesn't make sense..hopefully things can be fixed with an update....fingers crossed lol
@@welldonefromhereon i don't think any software updates can add two or three hours to the battery life.
I bought one and have last years 1370h model
And last years is better.
Lot of lag with this one and the Mac like trackpad is sensitive when on my lap my t shirt was touching it and was picking up as two finger tap.
Sometimes it loads web sites fine some lag.
The audio is MEH and last years Model Seems smoother.
The
Quality of the build is better and more solid but not a better product.
Is the battery user replaceable?
Yes. You just need to open it up and replace it. Simple.
@no1g8tor08 what I mean is. Is it a sealed unit or can the battery come out with a clip or something
Don’t even know of a newer Laptop you can replace a battery. No external
Ones anymore. At least high end ones
Would it be good enough to play Dota 2?
I would buy a tablet and laptop combo rather than this 360 hybrid at this price. I still need to get these 2-in-1s, especially 16 inches, that are not practical to use as handheld tablets.
The battery life and performance are subpar but hopefully will improve with an update, but even then, it just runs off the mill.
An easy pass.
sorry to say this but the macbook destroyed the spectre in terms of base but overall they pretty much sound the same
The TDP of 4050 only 45w？ That's so weird
it is designed for content creation, not for gaming. but for 4050, even you push 60+W, you only can get 10% extra performance or less
Since you asked....the mac has twice better bass but it smokes any other laptop on the market so that's not unexpected.
I would never use those “My HP” or “My Lenovo” apps.
A few extra inches are always good.
That's what she said
Amd ryzen 7840u is the best windows laptop cpu period. No intel and other amd cpu can compare with it.
No SD card, unreliable gaming performance, awful battery, no numpad. Basically the complete opposite of what the Spectre series used to be. I still use my Spectre from 2019 for everything, real shame it has taken steps back for me.
This aint a gaming pc bro 💀 it handles very demanding game very well still with the nvidia 4050 its not supposed to give you 300 fps on fortnite while being on full graph 💀 And you Can't complain about it not having a numpad thats not an obligation its just something that some people like you prefer to use but its not something bad not having a num pad are you gonna tell me mac's are bad because they dont ???
@@Quityapping , oh dude stop defending a product like your life depended on it. I just skimmed over that shit. To me it's shit, that's all. Opinion.
Watching the screen latency of this laptop on my 13 year old Samsung Laptop (-:
Contradicting information regarding the battery, according to notebookcheck it's great, you sound like it's really bad, in the end one is confused. Also:
- can you stream a 4k youtube video full screen with it staying silent by silent I mean the fans are off
- does the dedicated gpu get turned off if you are not gaming, any optimus support?
- does it have g-sync?
Actually, notebookcheck reviews one without the nvidia gpu so that might explain the difference in battery life which leads me to believe it does not have optimus and it's just running constantly, so buy one without nvidia if you care about battery.
Numpad could have been integrated in mouse pad like asus, HP lost an opportunity.
I really don't understand this obsession with SD card slots... Absolutely no one outside of youtubers care about those things. The ones built in into laptops aren't even fast ones and anyone "pro" will always use a better one from a dongle... Whatever...
Gamers with Steamdecks/windows handhelds/switch who use micro sd cards to tranfer games/hack or for emulation.
Ryzen with USB 4 better
No. Intel is better
better is honest review and it is not yours, you forgot about problems with screen scratches example
Not sure identical is the right word here 😛
The case design is a crime
Good looking but totally unoptimized laptop
I hate all windows laptops and i refuse to buy apple products ever again. There is not one single brand that I'm like "yeah, this is the macbook pro of windows", there is always some kind of compromise that you're going to make either in performance, or in the lack of ports, or just a poorly made product A manufacture needs to look at what Apple is doing and take their build quality and transfer that approach to a windows laptop design.
You will most likely never see a laptop that works as seamlessly as apple. Apple makes their own software and now they even make their own hardware (CPU) which is why they work so well. In case of windows, software is made by microsoft, cpu is intel or amd, gpu is nvidia or amd. There is just no way for a brand to make the product work as well as apple does. And I say this as someone that dislikes apple.
Macbooks are the best and you are moron if you hate apple. Prices are relevant, highest performance, best design and so on. Wins every category except the gpu m3max is between 4080m and 4090m but who cares
@@PKperformanceEUIt’s always this apple fanboy yapping about nothing 🤦♂️
@@josephle2381 this yapping about nothing the M3max literally smokes a 14900KF in soo many algorithms and we're talking laptop vs desktop. GPU is close to a full fledge 4090m.
Design and materials are galaxy's better than a windows laptops.
Everything so much better with 2021+ MacBooks over any windows laptop that's way slower anyways while having shit battery life and gets warm
I have since 1 week and I will send it back! BatteryLife Sucks!! normal work (citrix Remote) with Wifi 3h!!! Laptop gets warm without reason in IDLE Task even if i switch off Geforce.... and via USB-C Lapot dont use Geforce!!! so 2 4K screens with usb c connected an only 30Hz!!! I talked 2 h with hp support, they say it is not possible.......everthing laggy because ARC is not powerful enough!! How can this lapotp support up to 4 screens? really? sorry my 5years old Laptop performes better! Butthe hardware is really solid and good, touchpad, speakers, 360°, ... but its just baaaadly performing!!!
great review👍🏼
No numpad = dealbreaker
When did Spectre have numpads.
Mine has. 2020 version 15.6 display@@no1g8tor08
I am first viewer from India.
Nobody cares. 😂