Reliable and cleaner method for PET filament splicing
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It is not perfect, but this is a cleaner and more reliable method than the candle, thanks to the small tube the joints do not break when winding the filament on the spool and the joints remain reinforced until the last moment they enter the 3D printer.
The small tube is to prevent the joints from breaking when winding the filament as well as to validate the filament diameter, I clean the joint until the small tube passes through it with a slight friction, enough to stay in the joint but easy to slide when the filament enters the printer. The inside diameter of the tube should be printed between 1.8 and 2mm.
If you are interested in learning more about the sidewinder X2 3D printer: www.artillery3d.com/
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You're one of the only people educating about this. Your set up really proves this is possible and functional, not just a novelty.
First time I see this. That is amazing.
You say this but there's no instructions or anything just that it is possible. It would be nice to know what parts and pieces I need to get ahold of
@@sydneyhudnall3566 agree completely, but I think OP's first language is Spanish. I'd love to even get a Spanish language guide; presented with the opportunity I would be willing to help translate. I don't know for sure though-maybe they just haven't had the time to put a complete guide together.
It could be argued that the bearings and hardware are mostly self explanatory, and I've seen other videos on their channel about putting some of that stuff together. But a list of files for the 3D printed parts, a suggestion for the electric motor, and most importantly the selection and operation of the hot-end would be hugely helpful.
@@DaimyoD0 you see. You understand the layman. Personally I would have gone through so many failures if I just tried to piece it all together on a whim, and I find it easy to be discouraged in a project you are not sure about.
@@sydneyhudnall3566main part that does "forming" into a wire of filament is just an old printing nozzle drilled to 1.75 and chamfered for smooth passing. It's heated with an old heatblock from another printer. Basically that's it. Pulling system can be anything tbh. Curious about pulling speed tho
Шикарный подход к своему делу.Мои искрение восхищения.Браво уважаемый.
Love your projects. Keep em coming :)
Thanks 👍 for making an amazing video. Interesting and I love the way you filmed it
Eres un fuera de serie! Enhorabuena por tu gran trabajo!
Thanks for the content! Really inspirational as always
Kudos, BTW for your inventive gadgetry. The winders, the gears, detectors, and the useful items you have made.
Simply bloody brilliant. You should sell plans for the equipment you just demonstrated.
This is so cool that you got this to work!
I use the soldering iron method too, but just have a small wooden jig for lining up the ends. I’ve had really good success with these welds not breaking, so long as I put them on those large cardboard spools! 😅
Fantastic! Best video Ive seem yet on recycling
I like how you got the two filament ends together!
Sick set up 👏👏🙌
In this morning in finalised my pet recicle project based on your work, thank you so much.
That’s genius! i love it sooo much!
Really f'ing neat bro!
I'm very interested in one of your filament recycling machines. I've. Ot printed with petg yet but you have mastered it.
So nice system! I want to do that for my creations!
This was really satisfying to watch
Thank you very much
Awesome job can you put a kit together?
That's so cool!! 😃
Me has dado una idea de que imprimir aunque yo lo haré con pla.
Eres un crack 👏
You are so talented, oh my god!
Practice vm.tiktok.com/ZGJsXrTYB/
Si you have plans? Or stl files ? Great job!
Bro can you please please please make a step by step video on how to make this set up? With everything you need ? I really want to do this with old bottles
nice quality amigo
Hey, how do you deal with moisture absorption in the material? Do you leave them in the oven a few hours before pullstrusion ? Mine make bubbles idk if that’s because of the humidity evaporating, but my filament becomes easily white, not transparent.
Why are your prints always without bubbles? How to get this? Please tell what parameters do you use on Sidewinder x2. Thank you very much
Do you have an STL for the hanging cardboard spool hooks? I looked at your printables but didn't see it. Thanks!
Hi thanks for your beautiful works .❤
How did you make this device and set up the Arduino program?
Please post the full videos tutorial
Maybe it'd be possible to join before making it round. If you make a mechanical connection with the tapes before they enter the nozzle.
Because of this video I'm getting my first 3d printer any suggestions?
Excellent 👍
Very nice setup and quality results
Definitely an awesome thing to do. Unfortunately when I ask myself if the time it would take me to accomplish this task is worth more to me than what it would cost to just buy a roll of filament The answer is yes. Time is truly the only thing we can't get more of. If this is an enjoyable hobby then that's great but if it's being done for any other reason I think it would be hard to justify.
I can see this as a viable thing for makers in poor countries that cannot easily afford rolls of filament. Other than that it is a nice hobby I guess.
There isn't really THAT much time involved in the filament preparation. For me the lengthiest part is smoothing out the bottles- that I do while waiting for something else to happen, takes me around 30 minutes for 15-20 bottles
Then cutting the bottles takes me less than a minute per bottle.
Setup and taking off spool from machine- about another minute, and the machine runs on it's own for about 20-30 minutes per bottle, occasionally checking it out.
In the end you're at around 1-2 hours of your time for 500-600g of filament that for some uses I find is better than other filaments (I like it more than petg for example)
@@davidl6566 Yeah that's a lot of time as far as I'm concerned. You're talking about two to four hours per kilogram of filament. Most of the time I spend 20 bucks on a kilogram of PETG so that would be between $5 and $10 an hour pay equivalent. That's not nothing but I still think I would rather use my time elsewhere. Not saying it's not cool because it is I just don't think it would be for me.
Filaments are one day salaries or half day salaries here in a poor country. It makes more sense here I guess. If filaments are 1 hour salary then it doesn't make sense to do this.
@@BluehawkOne ah ok. Yeah that makes a big difference.
So can you please tell where to get this tube?
Esse reaproveitamento é top
You are the best
when making the filament that comes out of the hot nozzle will be a tube?
I have a question, is it possible to buy this machine assembled somewhere?
so those see through tubes are for ensuring the filament won't break in the spot where you welded them together i assume? how did it work without those? it doesn't seem like they're holding onto the filament as they dangle freely on the filament in the end of the video.
Yes, but it is so that they do not break when the filament is wound in the spool, normally there is a little friction of the union of the filaments holding the tube in the joint when the friction is null I try to keep the tube in the union when winding the filament, once the filament takes shape is no longer so rebellious so the joints are no longer in danger most of them, at the end of the video you can see several tubes that once held the joints and have accumulated at the entrance of the extruder during printing, also the tubes validate the filament along its entire length, so I use two, one for the joint and other for the validation
So good
Thanks for all your videos! I'm starting to gather parts to build one of these. Have you ever tried joining 2 bottles together right after you cut?? Seem like if you could make that work it would go through and size correctly and run.
Sadly it not works. It just soften and break from junction point of bottle strings as soon as it enter to the hotend/heater. I have tried couple things for that but all of them was failure :D
I'll add a suggestion... Maybe one of those heat sealers for plastic bags? The metal one with an arm that swings down and has an adjustable timer knob to turn off heat. Of course, you have probably tried this already lol.
As you have already been told does not work, high temperatures and forces break any union, the union would have to be perfect, as if it did not exist, because if not the strip will not enter and if the union is uneven filament also will be and affect the print, keep in mind that the work of joining it before or after is the same with the difference that before is much more difficult
@Function3D I was kind of figuring but thought I would ask. I'm having the same problem just getting pla unions to go through the printer without binding.
Wil you share you components which is used here for heating and motor with number of gear wheel used I'm a student it my project will you please support me
do you have a video on how we can build our own petg maker? I tried and couldn't get my temp to stay at right amount.
Amazing
hi its possible your plan for the controller ? thank you Greg
Cool project!
Does it work on thicker bottles like Gatorade?
Can it be used for hdpe and other materials?
Why don't you use silicon socks?
I've never tried Gatorade, but I'm sure they work. HDPE doesn't work, silicone socks are sure to work
How does the health and safety aspect look like for this? Isn't PET plastic toxic?
you are whats the purpose of the small tubes in the filament...? prevent bending of the weld?
The joints are very fragile, and the PET filament is very stiff, the tubes prevent the joints from breaking, the idea is that they remain in the joint until the last moment while printing, plus I use an extra tube to validate the thickness of the filament by passing it through the entire filament
Perfect 👍👍👍
Where can one find that file for joining the two filaments together. That's really cool I have so many half spools kicking around
In the description
Amazing 🎉
Buen trabajo , por lo que explicas en tu pagina para hacer un 1kg filamento con botellas de agua de 1.5 litros se necesitaría alrededor de 40 botellas agua o 3 botellones de 20 litros .
Great! Bravo! 👍🏻👏🏻🔥😁
Hi dear, question: the filament is completly solid? Or have a litle air core?
Thank you and good job
Hollow
What is the name of this rotary machine?
Do you have a full tutorial on how to build the filament maker? I want to make one this summer since i have a ramps board and an extra nozzle
Thanks
github.com/function3d/petalot
Might wanna share what are the specs of the filament? The temps? The speed? Glass transition temp?
255°C, slow
How did you make that horens like that ??
SO Excellent! can you share pull gear stl for your fancy??
This project has been shared for almost a year as open source, function3d.xyz
Hermosas piezas!
Do you get many bubbles caught in the extruded filament?
10 printers, 10 hotends, no bubbles, it's the filament and the settings not the printer
So thanks bhai jan
Nice work bravo, I have a question for you I can't find IRLZ44N mosfet can I replace it by IRFZ44N or not , thank you
They aren't identical. Depends on the circuit (which I haven't looked at). Google IRLZ44N vs IRFZ44N. The F has a higher on resistance when driven by 5V on the gate.
where do you get the plastic bottle cutter assemblies?
th-cam.com/video/hEdDhRgakms/w-d-xo.html
can you give me the STL file of the PET fiber recycler? TKS!
1:46 that's the part where you add the strontium aluminate powder ❤
Will you ever make a video showing how to make the filament machine you have there?
Would you share the files for the machine?
Thanks
Everything you say has been done for a year, start here function3d.xyz, I plan to do it again anyway
I don't understand why don't we have PET filament without the glycol widely available. Yes, you need an all metal hotend but IMO higher thermal resistance is a big benefit.
Did you find it much harder to print PET apart from raised temp and extrusion multiplier?
Most of my printers aren't all metal, and ptfe can withstand 255°C for thousands of hours without problems, PET has a lower layer adhesion due to the absence of glycol but can be handled by printing slowly and without layer fan
When i tried this method for joining pet filaments, i get a small crystallization blob that always clog my printer. (im printing at 260 C)
Did you have this problem?
Were those gears from Lego MindStorms?
I don't know what you're talking about so I guess not
Como sacas filamento a 1,75mm ?
Thank's 🎉❤
Hows the strength on the joint where it meets?
Very strong longitudinally, very weak transversely
Is there a stl link for the motor gears and spool wheel ? This is exactly what i need !!!
function3d.xyz
What is the size of the nozzle you are using?
1.7mm
¿Estos filamentos caseros deben ser cuidados de la humedad?
En mi experiencia no, nunca con ningún tipo de filamento he necesitado tener cuidado con la humedad
Super cool. We should figure out a melter gizmo to process the bottle into the filimant without the cutting.
There is a production modulation with the way shown that it's sort of 'self' that I love.
In my virtual model the filimant sprays out like silly string... But I kept thinking of a nozzle really short, like inches. If the nozzle were feet long instead and only heated on one end; it would mold the filimant and act like a plug for the low pressure vessel. The filimant going on to the spool is the modulator (anti silly string).
The same brilliantly simple modulator.
I like you, thumbs up!
Супер! Отличная работа.
What heated nozzle do you use? Can you send me a link?
Can I use any servo motor, or do I need to use a specific one?
Thanks for sharing!
its a regular mk8 nozzle for printer like ender drilled to roughy 1.8mm size. you can use anything that can do low rpm and have enough torque, mostly people use nema17 stepper motor but you can use el screwdriver powerdrill motor maybe even servo if it has enough force.
@@clixium thank you!
The Filament that goes through that 1,8mm nozzle gets stretched to the 1,75 mm, am I right?
@@WIESAG_Official yes, the size of filament depends how thick and wide your strips are so nozzle hole is not the only factor. I for example have drilled my to 2 mm and can still produce around 1.75 mm filament. The hole doesn't have to be exact, start from 1.8 and see how it goes. Filament doesn't have to be exactly 1.75, 1.6 works too just increase your flow to eg 120 or 130, just make sure it doesn't go above 1.8ish or it'll clog
function3d.xyz
About the mechanism you use to connect the new filament to the winding spool? Is that just a tube?
The tubes are not used to connect the filament but to validate the diameter and to protect the always weak joints
@@function3D sorry, at 1:29 of this video, it shows you connecting a string from the winding spool to the filament using a black tube or device to help pull the filament through the extruder.
I think I found it on your downloads. I think it is the filament hook
You can print it 280c temp to print faster
At 1:21 what is the yellow thing you use in the strip guide and guide cap?
Pliers
what is the nozzle temperature?
220°C and 255°C printing
Do you not join the slivers of pre filament ( just sliced from bottles) before converting to round filament? If not, could you????
That doesn't really work too well because the plastic hardens and causes a jam going into the heating funnel.
It is not possible
high temperatures and forces break any union, the union would have to be perfect, as if it did not exist, because if not the strip will not enter and if the union is uneven filament also will be and affect the print, keep in mind that the work of joining it before or after is the same with the difference that before is much more difficult
Dude, at this point pet filaments should be something used normally and not only a thing that this kind of channles use. You can do a r1diculous amount of things with it that it is weird to not see it everywhere.
Thanks for your job with this filament! :)
PETG is superior for 3D printing in many ways. Still weird that PETE filament is basically unavailable given that it works fairly well and is one of the most widely used polymeres,
@@jakx2ob More than being used in the 3D printing comunitty, I wanted to say it more in general. Idk if PETG can be obtained from plastic objects as PET filaments do, but dude, PET filament just have so much potential, you can do personalised plastic bottles in any shape you want, you can make any kind of little objects to use in your daily life, you can even make sticks for your broom in case you break it, but the best and more important: You can get the material from plastic bottles that you were gonna throw anyway.
Again, if PETG can be obtained from plastic bottles too, it only makes it even better lmfao.
@@kr3533 if you grind the bottles into pellets and add glicol yourself then maybe? Possibly?
But you'd have to use a real filament extruder, not a strip folder.
@@igorordecha You would probably have to turn the material back into monomers to do that.
@@kr3533 3d printing bottles doesn't work that great, no matter the material. Getting thin walled materials to be RELIABLY waterproof is a challenge and you can't really spent hours of machine time per PET bottle.
3D printing is only really starting out as a manufacturing technology for consumer goods. Established companies are unlikely to switch to 3D printing for mass production but new companies are making products with 3D printing.
Bravo
Nozzle size 1.5≈1.7mm
which temperature you use to form the filament?
220°C
А вы пользуетесь стандартными пластиками, или только pet?
Only PET
Is that 2.8mm filament ?, do you do a setup for 1.75mm ?
1.75mm
How does your cutting jig work ?
th-cam.com/video/eTBnhKWMYQk/w-d-xo.html
Is this open sourced?
Yes
I wonder if there is a link to the items that melt and output as 1.75. I have similar ones, but they look small to my eyes. I will expand the nozzle with a drill. I also have the power supply to run the heater. Could you please send me the links? i need to know if i got the wrong things i will return it urgent please
github.com/function3d/petalot
Print a bottle at the end to make the video more dramatic.
I want to buy two pieces to cut the plastic bottle and one to cut the plastic
I’ll pay you for an entire bottle-to-spool set up
Send me a email with your country, functionddd@gmail.com
Tengo una duda, se pueden unir distintas bobinas de pet para crear asi una bobina de 1kg?
No importa, acabo de ver de que si jajajaja
If I want to buy this project how much it will cost
Send me a email with your country, functionddd@gmail.com
Compañero, sería posible comprarte una máquina para reciclar? Con el cortador y lo necesario. Supongo q estás en España por las botellas de Mercadona. Te lo agradezco de antemano 😊
Enviame un email a functionddd@gmail.com y te respondo con un presupuesto