Great to hear! And tbh I felt the opposite. The clutch felt a bit heavier without the assistance which I def prefer. Either way I’m super happy it’s better for you now
@@DArias No what I meant was when you’re actually removing the spring if you push the pedal down with your other hand it puts it in a compressed position thus making it easier to take off those hooks.
I’m not gonna lie, the moment you said it’s a bit more difficult when trying to shift from lower gears due to the clutch being softer or like a feather touch, it was definitely relatable. I definitely need to take my spring out haha I enjoy a much more responsive clutch or feeling at least. Great video man keep up the work 👍🏽
Just went and test drove a 2019 Golf R and wow wow wow it's such a light clutch with zero feedback and incredibly long travel with so much dead space. I got back in my 6 speed Mazda and realized how truly bad the clutch feel was on the Golf.
I think you got it backwards. The spring helps you push the clutch pedal in more easily at the top of the travel. The spring is at rest when the pedal is pushed all the way in. Then it stretches as you let up the clutch. When the spring is being stretched, that means it's resisting that motion. That's why the clutch feels heavier after removing the spring. The spring is no longer there to assist you in pressing the pedal down.
If you're looking for the cheapest way to make your OEM clutch feel better, you are right. Clutch spring removal is a good one. You can also do the delay valve removal inside the bleeder block. You can do this for free on the OEM bleeder block, or you can purchase an upgraded billet bleeder block made by ECS Tuning (I have this), and it doesn't have the delay valve in it. Removing the delay valve really helps the modulation of the clutch pedal. A definite good upgrade! I noticed it immediately with the ECS Tuning billet bleeder block. Oh, and please practice on looking at the camera lens and not the camera LCD screen when filming. When you look at the camera LCD screen, your eyes aren't looking at us. Makes your videos weird to watch tbh.
A lot of people have mentioned the delay valve removal so I think I’ll go that route as well with the clutch stop to increase pedal fell and shorter clutch travel thanks! And I will keep your camera tip in mind for my next videos! Haha I appreciate the feedback man. I’ve been catching your videos too I was going to dm you on Instagram about the one I watched about the valve cover re sealing. I swapped plugs a few days back on the gti very minimal but a tiny bit of oil residual on the threads. Didn’t mistake it for the sealant that’s light brownish but may go ahead and reseal. Anything too difficult about it or Pretty straight forward like a normal valve cover removal?
@@DArias thanks for the reply and for checking my bid out. No problem for the tips. We all need them 🤙 Sounds like you might have a tiny valve cover leak around the same area I did. The job isn’t too difficult. Just making sure the crankshaft doesn’t mess up timing is the thing to look after. Other than that, everything is pretty self-explanatory. Remembering to remove the HPFP gasket, and not turning the spinny thing inside it (I don’t know what it’s called haha) will make taking the valve cover off, and putting the HPFP back on, a lot easier. Hopefully my video explains some other things that will help make the job easier. 🤙
You know it lol and you’re the second person to mention the delay valve I’m going to look into this now haha heard mixed things but willing to give it a shot
I think I’m going to do this and the clutch stop and see how it feels. Eventually I’m doing a clutch sooner rather than later and I want it to feel perfect
This mod is great paired with a clutch stop (to bring the clutch up a bit and reduce travel to the bite point). Did this on my MK7 and def improved the feel/ease of use. I will be installing an aftermarket clutch soon, but keeping the delay valve. Also heard mixed things, so I’m very interested to see how an aftermarket clutch feels with the delay valve still in…
Yes I’m gonna get a clutch stop too to shorten the travel just a bit! I’m still deciding what clutch to go with since I want to do it before tuning etc. a bit mixed myself on the delay valve too but a lot of people saying it makes a difference, what clutch are you gonna go with?
@@DArias Went with the Sachs performance clutch. Not the most popular option since most people replace the flywheel as well and go single mass, but I really wanted to maintain a stock like feel and my car only has 20k miles on it. I believe Sachs is the best option for those looking to maintain the stock dmf. Definitely a necessity for tuning unfortunately, I threw on the the Cobb ots stage 1 map (going eqt stage 2 soon) on the current stock clutch and it started slipping 3 days later 😭.
How is the sachs? Tbh I’m been wanting to keep my car with a Dmf instead of going with a smf. I want the car to still drive comfortable because I’ll be driving it a lot plus idk the direction I’m going yet but this may just stage stock turbo with bolt ons and a tune as I rather put more money into my s3 making it faster you know?
I was gonna go Sachs with DMF but changed my mind last second. Smf will basically get rid of the annoying rev hang especially from 1st to 2nd. I bought a southbend stage 3 daily. Just like everyone says. buy once, cry once 😂
Just came across this video. I'll have to try this in my Golf R tomorrow. I've been running a clutch stop for over a year now which also helps. I had my buddy 3D print one for me.
Hahaha your reaction to the clutch is so funny. I’m gonna do this to my gti straight away, already removed the clutch delay valve and noticed a bit of a difference but still doesn’t feel natural coming back up to my foot
Done it too the clutch feeling sticky was very annoying To me the clutch doesn’t feel heavier than before But is more natural now i can control it the way i want I couldn’t rev match this car before and suprisingly by removing the spring now i can🙏🏿
Really depends. The stock clutch is feather light. I prefer a bit heavier without the spring it feels much better and easier to shift smoothly etc. for a beginner possibly the stock feel may be best
@@DArias yeah especially if you get an aftermarket clutch later down the road. You can also get an aftermarket bleeder block, If you don't wanna take out the little yellow plastic restrictor.
I’m def gonna look into it! I was looking at south bend as well but how is the clutch chatter? I’m really trying to avoid chatter as I’m gonna be driving the car a lot
@@DArias I'm still waiting for my southbend to get delivered. But I've heard the chatter from my friends car. It isn't bad but it's noticeable. It's most noticeable when you have the windows down stuck in traffic, AC on or in a drive-thru.
I have the Golf GTI MK8 Autobahn 6spd with the ESC Tuning clutch bleeder block, DAP Short shift kit, 1.2lb shifter knob, Racingline intake, Racing line turbo inlet pipe, Racing line turbo inlet hose, Racingline hood hydraulic mount, Racingline intercooler line, Wager Tuning intercooler, Wagner tuning charge and boost kit, forged wheels, 18x5.5 tires, wheel bolt conversion, and many other performance parts including exhaust, suspension, dogbone upper and lower pucks, tranny and engine mounts, JB4, clutch master clutch, Clutch master SMF, Clutch Masters hydraulic bearing, aluminum rear clutch main door, Fluidampr and other cosmetic and performance parts. Since many of the MK7 parts fit the MK8 such as the clutch parts and other. Do you think the MK8 clutch would feel better by removing the clutch spring and also adding the clutch stop? I am new to VW. This is my first VW 6spd, Ive wanted one since I was 19. But something always came up and wound up with one 2 door ford explorer, a bunch of BMW 6spds, Audi A4 and A5 6spds as well as a few other cars. Since I had so many BMWs I had a lot of insight with them. This VW is someone new to me
Is this worth doing for a tdi aswell? i absoloutly hate the way the clutch feels, everytime i try to start from 1st i can never not have a little jerk in the car, and im wondering if this is worth doing, and if i dont like it, is the spring easy to put back on?
How is a stock gti? I want one but it’s going to be stock for a while probably and I still want it to be fun but it’s a daily so I need it to be comfortable and reliable. What do you think?
I have heard anecdotal reports that in removing the external tension spring, over time you can cause leaks in the slave cylinder seals. How is your car doing with the spring removed now and have you also heard these reports?
I read about this, apparently its for spring setups that are doing the opposite (pulling the clutch pedal back up rather than this setup, where the spring is there to make it easier to push the clutch pedal down). So it shouldn't be a problem here.
It’s not needed. Many platforms have removed the springs off clutches for a better feel. Very popular on Z cars too. It’s a nice feature for beginner drivers though
Just done it, first to second now feels fantastic. No one seems to mention that removing it is made much easier with the pedal pushed in to the floor.
Great to hear! And tbh I felt the opposite. The clutch felt a bit heavier without the assistance which I def prefer. Either way I’m super happy it’s better for you now
@@DArias No what I meant was when you’re actually removing the spring if you push the pedal down with your other hand it puts it in a compressed position thus making it easier to take off those hooks.
As someone who’s used to driving heavy ass cable clutch 80s dodges this made a world of a difference for me thank you so much.
I’m not gonna lie, the moment you said it’s a bit more difficult when trying to shift from lower gears due to the clutch being softer or like a feather touch, it was definitely relatable. I definitely need to take my spring out haha I enjoy a much more responsive clutch or feeling at least. Great video man keep up the work 👍🏽
The spring delete along with the ecs bleeder block and southbend stage 3 daily feel amazing, also am running a ngp stainless clutch line too
Just went and test drove a 2019 Golf R and wow wow wow it's such a light clutch with zero feedback and incredibly long travel with so much dead space. I got back in my 6 speed Mazda and realized how truly bad the clutch feel was on the Golf.
I think you got it backwards. The spring helps you push the clutch pedal in more easily at the top of the travel. The spring is at rest when the pedal is pushed all the way in. Then it stretches as you let up the clutch. When the spring is being stretched, that means it's resisting that motion.
That's why the clutch feels heavier after removing the spring. The spring is no longer there to assist you in pressing the pedal down.
If you're looking for the cheapest way to make your OEM clutch feel better, you are right. Clutch spring removal is a good one. You can also do the delay valve removal inside the bleeder block. You can do this for free on the OEM bleeder block, or you can purchase an upgraded billet bleeder block made by ECS Tuning (I have this), and it doesn't have the delay valve in it. Removing the delay valve really helps the modulation of the clutch pedal. A definite good upgrade! I noticed it immediately with the ECS Tuning billet bleeder block.
Oh, and please practice on looking at the camera lens and not the camera LCD screen when filming. When you look at the camera LCD screen, your eyes aren't looking at us. Makes your videos weird to watch tbh.
A lot of people have mentioned the delay valve removal so I think I’ll go that route as well with the clutch stop to increase pedal fell and shorter clutch travel thanks! And I will keep your camera tip in mind for my next videos! Haha I appreciate the feedback man. I’ve been catching your videos too I was going to dm you on Instagram about the one I watched about the valve cover re sealing. I swapped plugs a few days back on the gti very minimal but a tiny bit of oil residual on the threads. Didn’t mistake it for the sealant that’s light brownish but may go ahead and reseal. Anything too difficult about it or Pretty straight forward like a normal valve cover removal?
@@DArias thanks for the reply and for checking my bid out. No problem for the tips. We all need them 🤙
Sounds like you might have a tiny valve cover leak around the same area I did. The job isn’t too difficult. Just making sure the crankshaft doesn’t mess up timing is the thing to look after. Other than that, everything is pretty self-explanatory. Remembering to remove the HPFP gasket, and not turning the spinny thing inside it (I don’t know what it’s called haha) will make taking the valve cover off, and putting the HPFP back on, a lot easier. Hopefully my video explains some other things that will help make the job easier. 🤙
Croc game STRONG. Also get a delay valve it drastically improves the drivability
You know it lol and you’re the second person to mention the delay valve I’m going to look into this now haha heard mixed things but willing to give it a shot
To everyone reading remove the delay valve and the spring and it feels perfect
I think I’m going to do this and the clutch stop and see how it feels. Eventually I’m doing a clutch sooner rather than later and I want it to feel perfect
This mod is great paired with a clutch stop (to bring the clutch up a bit and reduce travel to the bite point). Did this on my MK7 and def improved the feel/ease of use. I will be installing an aftermarket clutch soon, but keeping the delay valve. Also heard mixed things, so I’m very interested to see how an aftermarket clutch feels with the delay valve still in…
Yes I’m gonna get a clutch stop too to shorten the travel just a bit! I’m still deciding what clutch to go with since I want to do it before tuning etc. a bit mixed myself on the delay valve too but a lot of people saying it makes a difference, what clutch are you gonna go with?
@@DArias Went with the Sachs performance clutch. Not the most popular option since most people replace the flywheel as well and go single mass, but I really wanted to maintain a stock like feel and my car only has 20k miles on it. I believe Sachs is the best option for those looking to maintain the stock dmf. Definitely a necessity for tuning unfortunately, I threw on the the Cobb ots stage 1 map (going eqt stage 2 soon) on the current stock clutch and it started slipping 3 days later 😭.
How is the sachs? Tbh I’m been wanting to keep my car with a Dmf instead of going with a smf. I want the car to still drive comfortable because I’ll be driving it a lot plus idk the direction I’m going yet but this may just stage stock turbo with bolt ons and a tune as I rather put more money into my s3 making it faster you know?
I was gonna go Sachs with DMF but changed my mind last second. Smf will basically get rid of the annoying rev hang especially from 1st to 2nd. I bought a southbend stage 3 daily. Just like everyone says. buy once, cry once 😂
@@DArias it’s going on this week, will let you know how it feels once broken in :)
Just came across this video. I'll have to try this in my Golf R tomorrow. I've been running a clutch stop for over a year now which also helps. I had my buddy 3D print one for me.
Hahaha your reaction to the clutch is so funny. I’m gonna do this to my gti straight away, already removed the clutch delay valve and noticed a bit of a difference but still doesn’t feel natural coming back up to my foot
Removing the spring gives the clutch a little heavier feel and doesn’t feel as assisted if that makes sense
Just done this and can confirm the car drives alot smoother through the low gears
Glad to hear it! Def gives the clutch more feel
Done it too the clutch feeling sticky was very annoying
To me the clutch doesn’t feel heavier than before
But is more natural now i can control it the way i want
I couldn’t rev match this car before and suprisingly by removing the spring now i can🙏🏿
Wouldn’t the lighter clutch be better though to daily drive? Or you prefer a heavy feel?
Really depends. The stock clutch is feather light. I prefer a bit heavier without the spring it feels much better and easier to shift smoothly etc. for a beginner possibly the stock feel may be best
Remove clutch delay valve, Get SS clutch line, southbend stage 3 daily clutch and a tune. It's perfect
I’ve heard about the delay valve but I’ve heard mixed things on it.. def worth it in your opinion??
@@DArias yeah especially if you get an aftermarket clutch later down the road. You can also get an aftermarket bleeder block, If you don't wanna take out the little yellow plastic restrictor.
I’m def gonna look into it! I was looking at south bend as well but how is the clutch chatter? I’m really trying to avoid chatter as I’m gonna be driving the car a lot
@@DArias I'm still waiting for my southbend to get delivered. But I've heard the chatter from my friends car. It isn't bad but it's noticeable. It's most noticeable when you have the windows down stuck in traffic, AC on or in a drive-thru.
Awesome little mod. Will try this out but I have a golf 1.8t assuming it’s the same
Should be identical yes
Everyone needs to do this
Makes such a difference
Same on 1.5 tsi manual?
Really a big difference? Have been debating doing this but thought I’d break something lmao
For me it feels way better. More clutch feel 100% you won’t ruin it I promise haha
What???? Never knew about this! Defo doing this!
Will make your clutch feel much more natural
I have the Golf GTI MK8 Autobahn 6spd with the ESC Tuning clutch bleeder block, DAP Short shift kit, 1.2lb shifter knob, Racingline intake, Racing line turbo inlet pipe, Racing line turbo inlet hose, Racingline hood hydraulic mount, Racingline intercooler line, Wager Tuning intercooler, Wagner tuning charge and boost kit, forged wheels, 18x5.5 tires, wheel bolt conversion, and many other performance parts including exhaust, suspension, dogbone upper and lower pucks, tranny and engine mounts, JB4, clutch master clutch, Clutch master SMF, Clutch Masters hydraulic bearing, aluminum rear clutch main door, Fluidampr and other cosmetic and performance parts. Since many of the MK7 parts fit the MK8 such as the clutch parts and other. Do you think the MK8 clutch would feel better by removing the clutch spring and also adding the clutch stop? I am new to VW. This is my first VW 6spd, Ive wanted one since I was 19. But something always came up and wound up with one 2 door ford explorer, a bunch of BMW 6spds, Audi A4 and A5 6spds as well as a few other cars. Since I had so many BMWs I had a lot of insight with them. This VW is someone new to me
Is hard to put back the spring? If I will not like it?
Had my mk7 since september I never knew this was even a thing, ill try it out.
Let me know what you think wanna do it to my mk6 now
@@bobbyyurk6483 Brainless mod so easy to do, makes the clutch feel way more sporty and quick, highly recommend
Is this worth doing for a tdi aswell? i absoloutly hate the way the clutch feels, everytime i try to start from 1st i can never not have a little jerk in the car, and im wondering if this is worth doing, and if i dont like it, is the spring easy to put back on?
How is a stock gti? I want one but it’s going to be stock for a while probably and I still want it to be fun but it’s a daily so I need it to be comfortable and reliable. What do you think?
I love it so far. It’s very comfortable to drive and pretty quiet stock and has enough power to not be boring. It’s an A from me as a daily
do you recomnmend doing this if this is your first manual car ?
Does this make the feeling more uncomfortable though?
Makes the clutch feel a little heavier but that’s about it. Easier to feel the clutch engage and smoother driving from it so far in my experience
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I have heard anecdotal reports that in removing the external tension spring, over time you can cause leaks in the slave cylinder seals. How is your car doing with the spring removed now and have you also heard these reports?
I read about this, apparently its for spring setups that are doing the opposite (pulling the clutch pedal back up rather than this setup, where the spring is there to make it easier to push the clutch pedal down). So it shouldn't be a problem here.
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I have a lot of plans so I’m gonna try and crank them out haha
@@DArias GREAT ! Im literally at the same point as you right now. Intake and inlet and im manual! Im definitely gonna try this tweak today!
Would this be the same on the scirocco too
On a newer one it should be a similar process to this
Can this be done in a 2010 mk6 gti? I don't see that same spring and don't know if it's just different.
Bro not too sure about the clutch setup on the Mk6. Never looked into it on my wagon either so I apologize
Good video brother, did the same thing today
Thanks man! Great to hear I’m sure your car feels a bit better now!
Is the pedal assembly different from mk6 gti? Is the hole threaded?
In my mk4 will work?
I already remove the clutch vale form the bleeder
Surely that spring is put in for a reason 🤔
It’s not needed. Many platforms have removed the springs off clutches for a better feel. Very popular on Z cars too. It’s a nice feature for beginner drivers though
I'll may try it out then, cheers
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How did it turn out for you? I'm curious, as I am considering doing this too.
This is genius, probably kind of like getting a DSG tune. The clutch needs to come up to your foot faster and grab that next gear.