Your videos are GOLD. As a 40yo goalie still trying to get better, I never realized a lot of the nuances you bring up. What are your thoughts on increased thigh rise? I have short legs (I'm only 5'8) but I'm reasonably flexible so I find myself doing a lot of "half" butterfly where one leg gets super wide. I used to be able to do a full split but trying to minimize wear & tear.
B Fish Yes, the half pad is a dying art. I lived by it. I would maybe sneak up on the increase of thigh rises, but it will hinder your mobility a little but may allow you to seal 5 hole better. Thanks for the kind words.
In high school I never had a goaltending coach. I relied a lot on watching Andrew Raycroft becasue I am a Bruins fan. A lot of what I incorporated into my game was from watching him.
I've seen most of travs videos. One thing I've noticed . That you touched on was the area above the pads, and below the glove or blocker. For me personally I find my chances of stopping and holding onto rebounds is keeping my hands out in front just a little more than where they feel natural. Maybe this is an old school thought, I'm not quite sure. But it allows me to seal up arms to torso, and have better movements with my hands. The last thing I notice is lively rebounds to open shot areas. Specifically on odd man rushes. It makes it very difficult to make the follow up save if you're committed and kick the rebound to the far slot. I'm assuming that's the nature of the warrior pads. Again these are only observations from a low level beer leaguer. Definitely not a knock. But if he could tighten up those spots, I think his game would be very good.
goalie2998 I agree that kill zone rebounds hurt most goalies and that is why where ever possible the pads need to angle rebounds out of danger and/ or stick most be more involved. Great insight!
For two years now my coach has told me to practice my butterfly by just constantly and quickly going up and down. I never really realized how bad this was as I was not thinking about how I was going down. I decided to for the first time actually try to take my time and work on taking shots in my butterfly instead of playing it like a speed drill. I could see an improvement and now I realize just how detrimental it was to my improvement.
Really good stuff! When I watched your first couple of vids with Trav, I just thought you were a grumpy old guy :D Now, watching your new videos, they are great and I'm learning a ton of stuff having switched to goal one year ago after 30 years as a skater! Subscribed!
Marcel's Hockey School thanks for subscribing... I am a grumpy old A-hole...😎 just pretending to be a human... LMK if there are any topics you want covered. This channel is for goalies, parents and goalie coaches so fire away if there is ever anyway I can help you...
Great break down and well done video... Do you think the vast majority of the youth are learning/ being taught to butterfly in a "block style" way? I know if I could go back in time, I would have learned how to manage the reaction portion much better and it would have been a difference maker for me.
T. B. I do think that. I think if our mindset was to react to everything and only block when it is called for we would be better off. It follows my mantra...”stop stopping pucks.... start controlling pucks.”
I think some of that 5-hole gap is just his pads are broken down. I think the Warrior line has one of the tightest seals when sized properly but any pad that's worn out is going to start opening up gaps. I'd really love to see an updated report card with him in a new set of G5's ;)
For Travis' size and hip issues, and generally for bigger goalies, wouldn't it pay off to be a more block style goalie, trusting in your positioning more than being more reactionary? Don't larger guys react or move slower anyways? Would you list a few more goalies who are more reactionary and who are more block style?
Tom K regardless of size, too much blocking causes tons of rebounds and he struggles with controlled repositions for secondary saves. So regardless of size you should always prioritize control before blocking where possible. Bigger guys at the D1, Major Junior and Pro level are the opposite of slow in anyway. There are almost no pure blockers like Giguere anymore and most pros are now more reactionary like Bob, Hotlby and Binnington
Your cinematic quality is really improving every week. Great video, very informative and helpful. As a coach, do you prefer if your goalie uses a composite stick or a wooden one with a foam core?
Trey Rees Thank you.. Lots to learn, lots of mistakes to learn from...like being a goalie 😎. As far as stick choice I really dont have a preference as long as the goalie uses it intelligently and actively.
Great video! What do you think about synthetic ice for goaltending. It doesn’t look like the rinks will be open any time soon so would I be able to properly do slides and movements on synthetic ice.
Ari it is a good stop gap if you can’t get on the ice. Your skates will need to be sharpened before you go back on the ice. Depending on the brand it can chew up your pads pretty good
@@FutureProGoaltending Synthetic ice is great for a workout but it has about 2x the resistance of ice so things will feel different between the 2. I used to keep an old pair of skates sharpened 1-2 hollows sharper than normal, now that I have easy to swap blades I would do the same thing just with runners, but the only synth ice place here closed down.
So it’s interesting you mentioned Trav struggles a bit w his stick on his blocker side. My son is also a full right and does well with his glove side stick and struggles blocker side using his secondary chute a lot. What would be a good drill for activating that more? We have about a 20X20 area of FRP board in the basement we work off of when we don’t have ice.
Bruce Sibert How old is your son? Here is a breakdown drill you can do to isolate stick involvement on the blocker side. Start him down in butterfly with zero flare (ie. heels right under his butt). Then just pump flat ice shots to his blocker side gradually increasing velocity. He can only use his stick as he is not moving his pads from their starting position under him. One thing that helps his getting his upper body to lean sideways over his blocker side slightly as this extends range and makes it easier to keep stick flush as it arcs over. LMK if you want a call to chat in more detail.
FutureProGoaltending He is 13 playing 06. I appreciate the quick response, we will get started on that right away. Would love to get you back down here to Miami lol. I would love to talk some time I will shoot you an email later.
Bob likes to have his hands higher in his butterfly. I noticed in both Sweden and Finland the younger goalies do the same thing. What do you think is the better way to go? Locked in elbows or more of elbows higher and gloves more active?
Ryan A I love more active arms and gloves. If you slide your gloves straight forward you can cover more net without opening armpit holes. The Finnish goalies I have coached like Toskala often speak of a baseball like game they all played as kids that helps make them generally excellent catchers of the puck like Rinne, Kipper etc
FutureProGoaltending I prefer active hands too. I think the locking elbows in move looks to similar to lacrosse goaltending. If you’re in perfect position the puck should hit you but outside of that you can’t make the save. I’ve seen that baseball-like game. It’s amazingly weird.
Ryan they also speak of a drill their goalie coaches made them do related to catching . They believed an arm already in motion was quicker to snap on a puck. They made them tap their trapper to their opposite shoulder then quickly snap over to catch the puck. Not sure how so feel about that but they are all great catchers....
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This is great. Reminds me a lot of Mitch Korn!
Keister I am one of the “children of the Korn”...
Your videos are GOLD. As a 40yo goalie still trying to get better, I never realized a lot of the nuances you bring up. What are your thoughts on increased thigh rise? I have short legs (I'm only 5'8) but I'm reasonably flexible so I find myself doing a lot of "half" butterfly where one leg gets super wide. I used to be able to do a full split but trying to minimize wear & tear.
B Fish Yes, the half pad is a dying art. I lived by it. I would maybe sneak up on the increase of thigh rises, but it will hinder your mobility a little but may allow you to seal 5 hole better. Thanks for the kind words.
Getting a lot better with your help! Especially with pucks sneaking under him on the over reach.
Darrell Hanson thanks. We both know there is a long way to go and he is a good student
In high school I never had a goaltending coach. I relied a lot on watching Andrew Raycroft becasue I am a Bruins fan. A lot of what I incorporated into my game was from watching him.
Shaun NH 2A Razr had a ton of talent and often got a unfair rap in Toronto..
I've seen most of travs videos.
One thing I've noticed . That you touched on was the area above the pads, and below the glove or blocker.
For me personally I find my chances of stopping and holding onto rebounds is keeping my hands out in front just a little more than where they feel natural.
Maybe this is an old school thought, I'm not quite sure. But it allows me to seal up arms to torso, and have better movements with my hands.
The last thing I notice is lively rebounds to open shot areas. Specifically on odd man rushes.
It makes it very difficult to make the follow up save if you're committed and kick the rebound to the far slot.
I'm assuming that's the nature of the warrior pads.
Again these are only observations from a low level beer leaguer.
Definitely not a knock. But if he could tighten up those spots, I think his game would be very good.
goalie2998 I agree that kill zone rebounds hurt most goalies and that is why where ever possible the pads need to angle rebounds out of danger and/ or stick most be more involved.
Great insight!
For two years now my coach has told me to practice my butterfly by just constantly and quickly going up and down. I never really realized how bad this was as I was not thinking about how I was going down. I decided to for the first time actually try to take my time and work on taking shots in my butterfly instead of playing it like a speed drill. I could see an improvement and now I realize just how detrimental it was to my improvement.
Sean keep pounding away
Really good stuff! When I watched your first couple of vids with Trav, I just thought you were a grumpy old guy :D Now, watching your new videos, they are great and I'm learning a ton of stuff having switched to goal one year ago after 30 years as a skater! Subscribed!
Marcel's Hockey School thanks for subscribing... I am a grumpy old A-hole...😎 just pretending to be a human... LMK if there are any topics you want covered. This channel is for goalies, parents and goalie coaches so fire away if there is ever anyway I can help you...
Dont worry, Steve is always pissed off lol
trav4oilers Rather a pissed off guy who knows his stuff than a clueless nice guy 😃
This was great. I’m glad to hear his butterfly isn’t broken :) id love to hear what you think of my butterfly.
Will do. As soon as we skate after this shut down.
@@FutureProGoaltending I'd love to see you break mine down too. I'm sure I have glaring flaw I'm not aware of.
Send me some good HD video and I will of course
FutureProGoaltending I’m looking forward to it.
True about his repositioning after a rebound
Thanks Cambrie!
Great break down and well done video... Do you think the vast majority of the youth are learning/ being taught to butterfly in a "block style" way? I know if I could go back in time, I would have learned how to manage the reaction portion much better and it would have been a difference maker for me.
T. B. I do think that. I think if our mindset was to react to everything and only block when it is called for we would be better off. It follows my mantra...”stop stopping pucks.... start controlling pucks.”
@@FutureProGoaltending Amen to that..I enjoy your insight and knowledge of the game and position. Thanks for sharing with the rest of us.
Hope I can help T.B.
I think some of that 5-hole gap is just his pads are broken down. I think the Warrior line has one of the tightest seals when sized properly but any pad that's worn out is going to start opening up gaps. I'd really love to see an updated report card with him in a new set of G5's ;)
They are definitely flimsy now
For Travis' size and hip issues, and generally for bigger goalies, wouldn't it pay off to be a more block style goalie, trusting in your positioning more than being more reactionary? Don't larger guys react or move slower anyways? Would you list a few more goalies who are more reactionary and who are more block style?
Tom K regardless of size, too much blocking causes tons of rebounds and he struggles with controlled repositions for secondary saves. So regardless of size you should always prioritize control before blocking where possible. Bigger guys at the D1, Major Junior and Pro level are the opposite of slow in anyway. There are almost no pure blockers like Giguere anymore and most pros are now more reactionary like Bob, Hotlby and Binnington
Your cinematic quality is really improving every week. Great video, very informative and helpful. As a coach, do you prefer if your goalie uses a composite stick or a wooden one with a foam core?
Trey Rees Thank you.. Lots to learn, lots of mistakes to learn from...like being a goalie 😎. As far as stick choice I really dont have a preference as long as the goalie uses it intelligently and actively.
Great video! What do you think about synthetic ice for goaltending. It doesn’t look like the rinks will be open any time soon so would I be able to properly do slides and movements on synthetic ice.
Ari it is a good stop gap if you can’t get on the ice. Your skates will need to be sharpened before you go back on the ice. Depending on the brand it can chew up your pads pretty good
@@FutureProGoaltending Synthetic ice is great for a workout but it has about 2x the resistance of ice so things will feel different between the 2. I used to keep an old pair of skates sharpened 1-2 hollows sharper than normal, now that I have easy to swap blades I would do the same thing just with runners, but the only synth ice place here closed down.
2:44 why did he show a picture of Darcy kuemper getting scored on
Luke Risser Darcy got stick involvement and puck is on way to corner, not in the net. The angle may be confusing you... 😎
So it’s interesting you mentioned Trav struggles a bit w his stick on his blocker side. My son is also a full right and does well with his glove side stick and struggles blocker side using his secondary chute a lot. What would be a good drill for activating that more? We have about a 20X20 area of FRP board in the basement we work off of when we don’t have ice.
Bruce Sibert How old is your son? Here is a breakdown drill you can do to isolate stick involvement on the blocker side. Start him down in butterfly with zero flare (ie. heels right under his butt). Then just pump flat ice shots to his blocker side gradually increasing velocity. He can only use his stick as he is not moving his pads from their starting position under him. One thing that helps his getting his upper body to lean sideways over his blocker side slightly as this extends range and makes it easier to keep stick flush as it arcs over. LMK if you want a call to chat in more detail.
FutureProGoaltending He is 13 playing 06. I appreciate the quick response, we will get started on that right away. Would love to get you back down here to Miami lol. I would love to talk some time I will shoot you an email later.
Miami Florida or Miami of Ohio? I have a place in Wellington, FL
FutureProGoaltending Ohio, but once this thing blows over we would be up for a road trip lol.
Deal
Keep up the grind
Luca Maiuri oh yes
Steve, do you think Trav would be better with getting his stick on those low blocker shots if he kept his stick on the ice in his stance?
MrGoalieboy29 potentially, but I see this issue a ton with other goalies who dont use the Hellebucyk
Bob likes to have his hands higher in his butterfly. I noticed in both Sweden and Finland the younger goalies do the same thing. What do you think is the better way to go? Locked in elbows or more of elbows higher and gloves more active?
Ryan A I love more active arms and gloves. If you slide your gloves straight forward you can cover more net without opening armpit holes. The Finnish goalies I have coached like Toskala often speak of a baseball like game they all played as kids that helps make them generally excellent catchers of the puck like Rinne, Kipper etc
FutureProGoaltending I prefer active hands too. I think the locking elbows in move looks to similar to lacrosse goaltending. If you’re in perfect position the puck should hit you but outside of that you can’t make the save.
I’ve seen that baseball-like game. It’s amazingly weird.
Ryan they also speak of a drill their goalie coaches made them do related to catching . They believed an arm already in motion was quicker to snap on a puck. They made them tap their trapper to their opposite shoulder then quickly snap over to catch the puck. Not sure how so feel about that but they are all great catchers....
FutureProGoaltending they have a ton of drills that you don’t see here in North America.
Does trav know you're making these videos before you make them?
oh yes.. we FaceTime several times a week..
Why did you have to have a Kincardine goalie in the video
big sexy he is another of my private students and always try to showcase my students in these videos!
I've been a goalie for 13 years.. I've had 3 hip surgeries..
They seem to be more common than not.
Trav is really tall can you tell me his exact height please
Colin Mckay 6’4”
FutureProGoaltending oh okay I thought he was taller
Colin Mckay he does look big in the net
FutureProGoaltending I’m a goalie too but I’m only 6 feet tall but I have the same arm reach as most guys who are 6’4 haha idk why I have long arms
Colin Mckay that will certainly help you reach those corner shots!