Thanks for the suggestion! A stickhandling video is definitely on my list as well as the best situation to do so. But clearly, scooping the puck up on my blade will not be included in said video...
The width of your butterfly should vary depending on your depth relative to the net; if you've telescoped out then your butterfly doesn't need to be as wide in order to take away the bottom of the net. Having a wider butterfly than necessary can result in pucks that would have otherwise missed being kicked out for an easy rebound. To work on your butterfly slides, focus on getting the knee of your drive leg up (your drive leg is the one you are pushing with). Raising your knee up towards your chest when you're down in the butterfly is what re-engages your blade against the ice, allowing you to push laterally. Additionally, placing the foot of your drive leg in front of your landed knee (the one still on the ice) will push you backwards as well as sideways; placing your foot of your drive leg behind your landed knee will push you forwards and sideways. The former can be used to slide back to your post without rotating your entire body beforehand, and the latter can be used if you need to cut down the angle on a shot but don't have time to regain your feet.
Great points! Thanks for sharing! I touch on a lot of these points in my Butterfly Push video but it's great that you mention them here in the comments. It's funny to think that from a non-goalie perspective, "butterfly" seems relatively simple, but when you dig down deep into the nuances, it's really anything but. Thanks for your comment!
Hi VOGoalie, I'm from the UK and I have just started playing in goal this year, I still play D but I have been covering for our usual goalie in our last few games. This channel has been a ton of help for me and I recorded my first shutout last night! I'm 28, so proof that you are never too old to try something new!
Good stuff as always. One of the other ways to get better at your butterfly... Go to pickup and practice! Most rinks let goalies play pick up for free. Practice makes perfect and Muscle memory is formed by repetition. Another great point about getting your butt up, I see a lot of beginner goalies really sit down after they start their butterfly.
Thanks for your comment! Great point about muscle memory! The butterfly motion is pretty unconventional from an anatomical standpoint, so your right, repetition helps build up that muscle memory. Thanks for the insight as always!
VOGoalie no problem my man. I’ve been watching your videos for years. I’ll keep watching them for many more. Just remember me when you get famous ;). And, you are totally awesome. If you want any help on any of your videos let me know I’ll do a commentary or whatever ya need. Always happy to help.
wicked helpful video !! feels like a personal goalie school. great for dry camp too. I remember watching back in the day the 90s goalie videos and man technology is helpful. this was clear to the point perfect. been playing pipes for 27yrs and it was a hard transition from hasek/hextall style to this kind of style but this has helped alot !!
this man really needs more “support” he does such a great job probably works for hours on these videos and still has 14k subs!? Come on goalies lift him up a bit he’s a great guy 🎉 he’s very nice and comfortable to watch he makes my day thank you so much for givin me the best of the best tips man!
Great stuff. A little additional for #1 Driving your knees to the ice. The mechanics are your Hips and Ankles as the pivot points. Start with a Wide stance, then bringing your knees together (hips) rotates the pads down to the ice (ankles), eventually disengaging the blades from the ice. Once you get good at this, you can literally SLAM your 5-hole closed.
Great point! Thanks for your comment! I neglected to mention the hips and ankles. And I had totally planned a "heavy metal powerslide" as a what not to do, then totally forgot to shoot that when filming!
AH! Here we go just what I was looking for finally I’m half way through and I just realized if I learn to ice skate (I’m a 13yr old) if I play hockey after learning to ice skate I want to play left wing so I’m not sure why I’m here but looks cool
Good stuff, as usual. Only suggestion I will make has to do with recovery from the butterfly: rather than use visual acuity to locate the puck by turning your head towards the puck's new location, have your shoulders follow as well. This has the advantage of turning your arms in the right direction and half your body is already turned in the right direction. Then, when you engage the recovery leg, half your body is already pointed in the right direction. You can extend the benefits of upper body rotation by swinging the non-recovery leg as well until that leg's skate makes contact with the recovery leg skate. At that point, you've done almost your entire rotation, and your recovery leg is used to get you up and push you out towards the puck.
Great points! That's always the ideal when it comes to efficiency of movement! Its funny how subtle adjustments and observations in a goalies game can lead to significant positive impact. You always have the best goalie insight! I think the biggest thing is developing discipline when it comes to movement. Often times for me at least, the easiest route is for athleticism (or lack thereof) to kick in and make a diving desperation save. What makes guys like Carey Price so good is how calm they look in those "desperation" moments. As always, thanks so much for you comment and contributing to the conversation!
Thanks for posting these awesome videos. I am just getting back into playing goalie. Been over 19 years since I skated last and these tips are greatly appreciated
Ball hockey goalie here - and a butterfly beginner - only put on the pads a couple of years ago in my late 40s...these are great tips - are you somewhere in Canada? :)
My issue was both my hamstrings and adductors were locked up and it took dry needling with Electro stimulation to unlock them. Could butterfly just fine without even stretching it was amazing. I was an idiot and force myself into a wall sit stretch that was too wide.
stretching is key! If you're stiff/locked up nothing will work as it should.. Just like you say, always play better after recent chiropractice, when everything is aligned and moving the way it should, without some parts of my body obstructing movement. It's a game changer, especially in Beer-league
@@KB9813 can you pls help me...I cant do wide butterfly and when i try it hurts my glute like I am getting a cramp.even when I try side lifting my leg up i get cramp in glute(standing on both feet and just rising your leg up sideways)
@@I_TalkSick I'm not a medical professional so I have no idea. But, glutes are mainly a stabilizing muscle and it's advisable to try and maybe stretch them to help with rotation. It could be hip impingement (th-cam.com/video/agmYorhOxmc/w-d-xo.html | th-cam.com/video/Pd_bJMOM0I0/w-d-xo.html). I would figure it would be either your abductors or adductors. Your adductors are completely abused by goalie stance and the inward movement of c-cuts, abductors outward movement of c-cuts. See a physiotherapist and maybe ask for dry needling with estimulation. Might not work for you, but since I had a muscle injury it worked for me.
I just realized my pads are a big too small, and my pants are too big. So I can butterfly as good as I can with fitting gear. So this should help for now! Thanks!
Just getting back into the net after years of skating up, and utilizing the old stand up style of tending. Needing to learn the butterfly now. My main question is, what are some tips and tricks to save my 51 yr old knees while learning the butterfly? Are there certain equipment set-ups that help save the knees? Thanks.
Thanks for your comment! While I don't consider myself an official "coach", I'm glad that my content helps goalies out there! And hopefully provides some entertainment along the way!
leaning forward and to either side the shot goes to leads to really good rebound control, worked on that recently really leaning my weight towards the shot side and ofc keeping hands in front of you
Thanks for your comment! You're totally right! Moving towards the shot helps me with my rebound control! Unfortunately, my D waving their sticks at every shot negates that!
Thanks for making these videos, they are awesome! I have only played ice a few times now and I can't do a butterfly. I've only ever played roller hockey and there isn't too much sliding for a goalie. I also wonder if it's my pads, they are 2000-2001 don simmons excalibur pads and i don't think butterfly was a thing then. I do have some warrior g3 pads on order and i'm hoping it makes a difference. Your opinions, insight, techniques, help, is greatly appreciated.
Thanks so much for your comment! Modern day pads will make a difference in your butterfly so the switch to G3s from those Excaliburs will be like night and day (plus the weight savings will be incredible!). There for sure will be an adjustment period, but stick with it and you'll be butterflying in no time!
@@VOGoalie I am looking to buy your pads and that's how I actually found you on TH-cam. My butterfly hasnt been as wide since I pulled a groin a few seasons ago but I was wondering how stiff these pads are or if they require you to have a decently wide butterfly to close the 5 hole? Thanks for your input and if you're ever out in AZ we'd love to have you jump on the ice with us!
I know this is an older video, but I went out to an open skate a few weeks ago with my pads for the first time. When I went down, I kept landing on the actual front of the pad, I just could not get it set up right. And when I forced myself into the position with the fronts out, I couldn't do pushes, the pad was in the way of my skate. Are they just too big? Is it hip rotation issues?
I've had a question if you could please answer. I am a goalie that's like 5,9 around that and my butterfly isn't secure enough and I think it's my pads as they are 30+1. Do u think the pads are the reason why I have this problem or its something I'm doing?
My daughter is 9, has been ice skating only 1.5 yrs. Anyways I played hockey, but not goalie. She is very enthusiastic, but I don’t know how far to teach her before overloading her, & she doesn’t get any 1 on 1 coaching for her position. What exercises can she do to make the butterfly stance easier, & what are some REAL BASIC tips I can share with her?
Just work on your positioning. If you keep your legs sealed and together, also put your weight on your knees like the video states, you should be fine. It’s mostly about positioning and weight transfer. By the way, always keep your stick extended and in the way of your five hole. Hope this helps!
Thank you for this! I’m a field hockey goalie transitioning to ice. We don’t really use butterfly in field hockey (it’s too hard to get up from dirt) and we can’t catch the ball plus we have a smaller stick and wider goal. It can be really hard! We kick the ball away or smack it with a hand blocker (on the glove hand). So I’m excited at the prospect of using the butterfly, having an actual glove to catch, and a smaller goal. I guess it’s about perspective. Question: I spent ten years as a gymnast. Do you think my flexibility and reflexes will be helpful?
Thanks so much for your comment and welcome to the sport! I knew a field hockey goalie... (a long, long time ago...) so I'm familiar with the position. While your flexibility as a gymnast won't ever hurt you as a hockey goalie, the skills you learned with regards to angles and reading plays in field hockey will probably help you more! While there are different nuances between the sports, the basic premise (and mental mindset) will help you adjust to the game much more quickly. Good luck and thanks for your comment!
I have a bad habit of falling on my right leg where my skate ends up under my butt. Left leg flares into the butterfly but the right leg is a mess. Any tricks to break that habit?
Tip for beginners working on speed: if you have another more experienced goalie to help you, stand in front of each other and "race" them for going into your butterfly, recovery sliding, etc... Make sure you're doing it safely and correctly, though; you don't want to hurt yourself.
Sounds like he might need to loosen up the strapping for better rotation. It could also be his toe attachment depending on what pads he's using. Biomechanically, he might need slightly more flare in the butterfly and/or ankle rotation (ie when dropping to his knees, he should try to have his skate blades be more parallel to the ice as opposed to them being perpendicular.). Hope this helps!
I am taking a shot at being goalie for my JV Girls hockey team tomorrow because we don’t have a goalie right now! I am REALLY nervous. I have a game against a team that kicked out butt last year, in THREE DAYS. WHAT DO I DO!?
not to be that guy and still i can be wrong anyway since i hockey is changing rapidly and when i was kid treners was all about stay on your legs..so obv. goalkeeping changes pretty fast but no matter what i feel like having your stick in angle you do have it calls for trubble and its bad habit for new goalies bcs any waster puck gona get over you
Thanks for asking! You'll really know with how easy it is to recover. If you're sitting back when in your butterfly, your body weight will be closer to your ankles. From there, there is almost no way to get a leg up and recover. When you keep your backside up, your weight is on your knees and you should be able to feel the difference in stability. Hope this helps and thanks for you comments!
Standup, standup, standup. Watch the NHL goalies, they get beat up high all the time, because your a small target. Crouch, play from the crouch position and stand up at times your a bigger target, half your saves are pucks hitting you. Play your angles, Move side to side in your skates, not on your pads, your leaving the corners open. Watch the old goalies on TH-cam and watch them over and over again. Only two goalies were great using the butterfly, Glenn Hall and Tony Esposito.
No your wrong you dont want to be wide yes it might have you half way down already but say you have to T push or go to your post where are you going to get that power
As for gear mods to help with butterfly. You have G4 pads so its already built in. But, for beginners am doubtful they have 700 to $2,000 pads. Most helpful has been shock cord toe ties of some type. There is a various variations up there but my acquaintance makes his own. Calls them Pak1 via 5-hole hockey in Facebook. Also prolace has there own, monster is in the shitter (sucks. Liked there TGL's), kenesky hockey etc. And also a professor strap! (Also from 5-Hole) Dude they are awesome for letting you keep your pads stupid loose but keep your knee from popping sideways off the stack. For the person who doesn't have Warrior pads it's super useful. I legitimately was able to skate with my strap set to one hole on my Reebok P4's. photos.app.goo.gl/mNSKD8Z26oyb3Qba6
When I was beginning to learn the butterfly when I went down my arms would puff out leaving a gap underneath my them so what I did to to stop that was put my stick on my wrists so it was getting caught on my glove and practiced butterfly like that so my gloves stayed in the same spot
Tip 3 is really gonna help me. Once in a game, it was a 1-1 tie against the best team in our division. I made a save and the puck went into the corner. Then, their guy passed it to the slot, and another guy took a one timer, and it went right through my 6-hole. Now I know that if I use tip 3, those pucks won’t get past me. Thanks Man!
Once in game there came a penalty shot and my skates laces got under my skate i spotted it when the player started it somehow i saved it Ps. Im not very good in england
Thanks for the kind words! Maybe stand up will make a comeback when the NHL bans goalies from dropping to their knees in an effort to increase scoring... well, maybe not!
If you’re a youth goalie or a parent with one, PLEASE READ THIS.. I was a youth goalie, for years. I started out strong, was good, best around in my age group. When going from age 14 to 15 i got a new coach, one who thought HE knew best how goalies should play. He forced me to start staying upright more, and told me not to drop down unless i HAD to. It completely ruined my game, i never played high-school hockey, and i was never good again because i wasnt playing naturally.. Please, PLEASE if you see a coach making a kid change his style because he thinks he knows best, please stop it IMMEDIATELY. It killed me that i never got to have fun playing goalie again, and never moved on.. Note: This only goes for kids who have been playing the position for years and developed their own style. If they’re a brand new goalie, never played, then a bit of direction is good. But more than anything, the direction SHOULD be, “do whatever comes naturally to stop the puck” cause its different for every kid. Please learn from my mistake of letting that coach ruin hockey for me...
I’m trying to be a goalie! Got some equipment but when I put it all on, not good. Can’t see down, can’t move. It’s like I’m wearing a suit of armor. I’ve played hockey for years as a forward. This is crazy! Any advice? I really want to do this.
Hey Vlad, thanks for your question. Powerslide is right, I wear a Protechsport mask. Specifically a Luongo mold. I actually have an extended chin but the cage window is large so it looks like a short chin (I used to wear a Mage RS, now that was a short chin!). If you're looking for a Protechsport, plan early as the lead time can often be lengthy as they are all made to order, but Michel is fantastic to work with in making your mask!
I think you should make a video on playing the puck for the other goalies that don’t know how to.
Thanks for the suggestion! A stickhandling video is definitely on my list as well as the best situation to do so. But clearly, scooping the puck up on my blade will not be included in said video...
That dude be out there sounding like iron man.
Damn good video tho you deserve a subscriber.
Thanks man!
The width of your butterfly should vary depending on your depth relative to the net; if you've telescoped out then your butterfly doesn't need to be as wide in order to take away the bottom of the net. Having a wider butterfly than necessary can result in pucks that would have otherwise missed being kicked out for an easy rebound.
To work on your butterfly slides, focus on getting the knee of your drive leg up (your drive leg is the one you are pushing with). Raising your knee up towards your chest when you're down in the butterfly is what re-engages your blade against the ice, allowing you to push laterally.
Additionally, placing the foot of your drive leg in front of your landed knee (the one still on the ice) will push you backwards as well as sideways; placing your foot of your drive leg behind your landed knee will push you forwards and sideways. The former can be used to slide back to your post without rotating your entire body beforehand, and the latter can be used if you need to cut down the angle on a shot but don't have time to regain your feet.
Great points! Thanks for sharing! I touch on a lot of these points in my Butterfly Push video but it's great that you mention them here in the comments. It's funny to think that from a non-goalie perspective, "butterfly" seems relatively simple, but when you dig down deep into the nuances, it's really anything but. Thanks for your comment!
You sound like Kylo Ren. Thats awesome
Hi VOGoalie, I'm from the UK and I have just started playing in goal this year, I still play D but I have been covering for our usual goalie in our last few games. This channel has been a ton of help for me and I recorded my first shutout last night! I'm 28, so proof that you are never too old to try something new!
Congrats on the Shutout! Thanks so much for your comment and glad my videos have helped!
Good stuff as always. One of the other ways to get better at your butterfly... Go to pickup and practice! Most rinks let goalies play pick up for free. Practice makes perfect and Muscle memory is formed by repetition. Another great point about getting your butt up, I see a lot of beginner goalies really sit down after they start their butterfly.
Thanks for your comment! Great point about muscle memory! The butterfly motion is pretty unconventional from an anatomical standpoint, so your right, repetition helps build up that muscle memory. Thanks for the insight as always!
I had to come to my favorite youtubers channel as soon as I could. Love them, keep them up. Ive been playing goaltender for 11+ years.
Thanks so much for your comment! You are Totally Awesome! #NotificationsFTW
VOGoalie no problem my man. I’ve been watching your videos for years. I’ll keep watching them for many more. Just remember me when you get famous ;). And, you are totally awesome. If you want any help on any of your videos let me know I’ll do a commentary or whatever ya need. Always happy to help.
nice side push from bfly position
Dang, I was really rooting for you there at the end. Great, simple information. Saving this video 🤙
Gonna miss u Wayne!
wicked helpful video !! feels like a personal goalie school. great for dry camp too. I remember watching back in the day the 90s goalie videos and man technology is helpful. this was clear to the point perfect. been playing pipes for 27yrs and it was a hard transition from hasek/hextall style to this kind of style but this has helped alot !!
this man really needs more “support” he does such a great job probably works for hours on these videos and still has 14k subs!? Come on goalies lift him up a bit he’s a great guy 🎉 he’s very nice and comfortable to watch he makes my day thank you so much for givin me the best of the best tips man!
He isn’t active on social media anymore, and quit being a goalie too. Sad but we will always have his videos
Great stuff. A little additional for #1 Driving your knees to the ice. The mechanics are your Hips and Ankles as the pivot points. Start with a Wide stance, then bringing your knees together (hips) rotates the pads down to the ice (ankles), eventually disengaging the blades from the ice. Once you get good at this, you can literally SLAM your 5-hole closed.
Great point! Thanks for your comment! I neglected to mention the hips and ankles. And I had totally planned a "heavy metal powerslide" as a what not to do, then totally forgot to shoot that when filming!
Thanks for the tips
Awesome video man! It's so important to drive your knees straight down to keep those knees seeled. Thanks for your tips!
Thanks for your Comment and for the tip about driving your knees!
Great informative video. Just started playing goalie last week, I think this'll really help a lot
Just started learning to play goalie, thanks for the tips!
AH! Here we go just what I was looking for finally I’m half way through and I just realized if I learn to ice skate (I’m a 13yr old) if I play hockey after learning to ice skate I want to play left wing so I’m not sure why I’m here but looks cool
Good stuff, as usual. Only suggestion I will make has to do with recovery from the butterfly: rather than use visual acuity to locate the puck by turning your head towards the puck's new location, have your shoulders follow as well. This has the advantage of turning your arms in the right direction and half your body is already turned in the right direction. Then, when you engage the recovery leg, half your body is already pointed in the right direction. You can extend the benefits of upper body rotation by swinging the non-recovery leg as well until that leg's skate makes contact with the recovery leg skate. At that point, you've done almost your entire rotation, and your recovery leg is used to get you up and push you out towards the puck.
Great points! That's always the ideal when it comes to efficiency of movement! Its funny how subtle adjustments and observations in a goalies game can lead to significant positive impact. You always have the best goalie insight! I think the biggest thing is developing discipline when it comes to movement. Often times for me at least, the easiest route is for athleticism (or lack thereof) to kick in and make a diving desperation save. What makes guys like Carey Price so good is how calm they look in those "desperation" moments. As always, thanks so much for you comment and contributing to the conversation!
What a nice guy
THANK U MAN
Thanks for posting these awesome videos. I am just getting back into playing goalie. Been over 19 years since I skated last and these tips are greatly appreciated
Thanks for your comment and welcome back to the ice!
Hey VOG! Thanks for the help. Started at age 34 and i'm completely self taught. Your technique videos are a huge help.
I like it here
Ball hockey goalie here - and a butterfly beginner - only put on the pads a couple of years ago in my late 40s...these are great tips - are you somewhere in Canada? :)
My issue was both my hamstrings and adductors were locked up and it took dry needling with Electro stimulation to unlock them.
Could butterfly just fine without even stretching it was amazing.
I was an idiot and force myself into a wall sit stretch that was too wide.
stretching is key! If you're stiff/locked up nothing will work as it should.. Just like you say, always play better after recent chiropractice, when everything is aligned and moving the way it should, without some parts of my body obstructing movement. It's a game changer, especially in Beer-league
@@magictooth2 No. I legit hurt myself. For months I was having knee pain. Hit my muscle groups and no more pain.
@@KB9813 can you pls help me...I cant do wide butterfly and when i try it hurts my glute like I am getting a cramp.even when I try side lifting my leg up i get cramp in glute(standing on both feet and just rising your leg up sideways)
@@I_TalkSick I'm not a medical professional so I have no idea. But, glutes are mainly a stabilizing muscle and it's advisable to try and maybe stretch them to help with rotation. It could be hip impingement (th-cam.com/video/agmYorhOxmc/w-d-xo.html | th-cam.com/video/Pd_bJMOM0I0/w-d-xo.html).
I would figure it would be either your abductors or adductors. Your adductors are completely abused by goalie stance and the inward movement of c-cuts, abductors outward movement of c-cuts.
See a physiotherapist and maybe ask for dry needling with estimulation. Might not work for you, but since I had a muscle injury it worked for me.
I love goalie
I just realized my pads are a big too small, and my pants are too big. So I can butterfly as good as I can with fitting gear. So this should help for now! Thanks!
Great vid.... I've always had trouble, but this should help me
Awesome! Thanks for your comment and GL!
Just getting back into the net after years of skating up, and utilizing the old stand up style of tending. Needing to learn the butterfly now. My main question is, what are some tips and tricks to save my 51 yr old knees while learning the butterfly? Are there certain equipment set-ups that help save the knees? Thanks.
You’re my favourite goalie coach on TH-cam! Thanks for the video
Thanks for your comment! While I don't consider myself an official "coach", I'm glad that my content helps goalies out there! And hopefully provides some entertainment along the way!
leaning forward and to either side the shot goes to leads to really good rebound control, worked on that recently really leaning my weight towards the shot side and ofc keeping hands in front of you
Thanks for your comment! You're totally right! Moving towards the shot helps me with my rebound control! Unfortunately, my D waving their sticks at every shot negates that!
Many thanks! Really good Video.
You're welcome! Hope my videos help other goalies out there! Thanks for your comment!
Thanks for making these videos, they are awesome! I have only played ice a few times now and I can't do a butterfly. I've only ever played roller hockey and there isn't too much sliding for a goalie. I also wonder if it's my pads, they are 2000-2001 don simmons excalibur pads and i don't think butterfly was a thing then. I do have some warrior g3 pads on order and i'm hoping it makes a difference. Your opinions, insight, techniques, help, is greatly appreciated.
Thanks so much for your comment! Modern day pads will make a difference in your butterfly so the switch to G3s from those Excaliburs will be like night and day (plus the weight savings will be incredible!). There for sure will be an adjustment period, but stick with it and you'll be butterflying in no time!
Thank you needed this
You're welcome! Thanks for your comment and hope my video helps!
i used to be one of the worst goalies in my league but once i watched this video it made me one of the best
Awesome! Glad my video help out some!
Mahalo!
You're welcome!
Lmfao!! Best part was at the end!! "I saw this on the Internet "
I seen that video too!
Thanks! You rock for watching my entire video!
Found out what i was doing wrong. Thanks Wayne
Awesome! Glad my video help and thanks for your comment!
what do you say at the beginning you show on the ice...you say "beginners have to hob'? hop? Hob? to disengage their blades... please explain
Another great video! Keep it up!
Thanks so much! You are Totally Awesome!
@@VOGoalie I am looking to buy your pads and that's how I actually found you on TH-cam. My butterfly hasnt been as wide since I pulled a groin a few seasons ago but I was wondering how stiff these pads are or if they require you to have a decently wide butterfly to close the 5 hole? Thanks for your input and if you're ever out in AZ we'd love to have you jump on the ice with us!
Great simple tips. You should change your channel name to Mic’d up Goalie based on the looks and sound of this video ;D
How come the facing of the pads go straight down to ground and not flaired out on side like your pads
my pads are facing the ground instead of outwards when i drop down, any tips?
I know this is an older video, but I went out to an open skate a few weeks ago with my pads for the first time. When I went down, I kept landing on the actual front of the pad, I just could not get it set up right. And when I forced myself into the position with the fronts out, I couldn't do pushes, the pad was in the way of my skate. Are they just too big? Is it hip rotation issues?
I've had a question if you could please answer. I am a goalie that's like 5,9 around that and my butterfly isn't secure enough and I think it's my pads as they are 30+1. Do u think the pads are the reason why I have this problem or its something I'm doing?
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You are totally awesome!
My daughter is 9, has been ice skating only 1.5 yrs. Anyways I played hockey, but not goalie. She is very enthusiastic, but I don’t know how far to teach her before overloading her, & she doesn’t get any 1 on 1 coaching for her position. What exercises can she do to make the butterfly stance easier, & what are some REAL BASIC tips I can share with her?
I honestly just don’t know how to place my feet. Do I just dig the toe in or does the entire side need to touch the ice?
Thanks for the video I’m a young peewee goalie working on the five hole because I always let pucks sneak in
Thanks for your comment! Hope my video helps in some small way! #VOGSquad
Just work on your positioning. If you keep your legs sealed and together, also put your weight on your knees like the video states, you should be fine. It’s mostly about positioning and weight transfer. By the way, always keep your stick extended and in the way of your five hole. Hope this helps!
Thank you for this! I’m a field hockey goalie transitioning to ice. We don’t really use butterfly in field hockey (it’s too hard to get up from dirt) and we can’t catch the ball plus we have a smaller stick and wider goal. It can be really hard! We kick the ball away or smack it with a hand blocker (on the glove hand). So I’m excited at the prospect of using the butterfly, having an actual glove to catch, and a smaller goal. I guess it’s about perspective. Question: I spent ten years as a gymnast. Do you think my flexibility and reflexes will be helpful?
Thanks so much for your comment and welcome to the sport! I knew a field hockey goalie... (a long, long time ago...) so I'm familiar with the position. While your flexibility as a gymnast won't ever hurt you as a hockey goalie, the skills you learned with regards to angles and reading plays in field hockey will probably help you more! While there are different nuances between the sports, the basic premise (and mental mindset) will help you adjust to the game much more quickly. Good luck and thanks for your comment!
VOGoalie Thank you so much! I’m lucky I’m used to putting my body in weird angles AND wearing pads! Your videos are helpful too!!!
I have a bad habit of falling on my right leg where my skate ends up under my butt. Left leg flares into the butterfly but the right leg is a mess. Any tricks to break that habit?
Tip for beginners working on speed: if you have another more experienced goalie to help you, stand in front of each other and "race" them for going into your butterfly, recovery sliding, etc... Make sure you're doing it safely and correctly, though; you don't want to hurt yourself.
Nice! Thanks for the tip!
A video on center-shifting please?
Is it the same for inline hockey?
What is that cage
I am awesome now since I commented
My son just started and is having a hard time getting his pads square on the ice. Hes going flat on his knees. Does he just need a wider stance?
Sounds like he might need to loosen up the strapping for better rotation. It could also be his toe attachment depending on what pads he's using. Biomechanically, he might need slightly more flare in the butterfly and/or ankle rotation (ie when dropping to his knees, he should try to have his skate blades be more parallel to the ice as opposed to them being perpendicular.). Hope this helps!
I find these vids helpful even though im winger
Awesome! Knowing how goalies think can definitely help you score!
Are those the G4’s
Sure are!
I am taking a shot at being goalie for my JV Girls hockey team tomorrow because we don’t have a goalie right now! I am REALLY nervous. I have a game against a team that kicked out butt last year, in THREE DAYS. WHAT DO I DO!?
Sorry I missed your Comment! I hope it went well and that you had fun!
It was very fun! We won 12-10 (the other goalie was new too!)
butterfly tip: practice makes perfect
can you teach us how to drop into the butterfly
Thanks for the suggestion!
Everytime I drive my knees down, my pads go under, not out. I'm 46 and no spring chicken to shred my groin. I'm on dek sneakers, not skates
this really helped
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Miss your videos :/
when did you start this channel
Thanks for your comment! I started it back in May 2018 and upload a new video every Thursday! Thanks for asking!
not to be that guy and still i can be wrong anyway since i hockey is changing rapidly and when i was kid treners was all about stay on your legs..so obv. goalkeeping changes pretty fast but no matter what i feel like having your stick in angle you do have it calls for trubble and its bad habit for new goalies bcs any waster puck gona get over you
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1:27 How do you keep your butt up? How do I know if my butt is up properly?
Thanks for asking! You'll really know with how easy it is to recover. If you're sitting back when in your butterfly, your body weight will be closer to your ankles. From there, there is almost no way to get a leg up and recover. When you keep your backside up, your weight is on your knees and you should be able to feel the difference in stability. Hope this helps and thanks for you comments!
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Thanks so much! Cheers from the US!
Standup, standup, standup. Watch the NHL goalies, they get beat up high all the time, because your a small target. Crouch, play from the crouch position and stand up at times your a bigger target, half your saves are pucks hitting you. Play your angles, Move side to side in your skates, not on your pads, your leaving the corners open. Watch the old goalies on TH-cam and watch them over and over again. Only two goalies were great using the butterfly, Glenn Hall and Tony Esposito.
No your wrong you dont want to be wide yes it might have you half way down already but say you have to T push or go to your post where are you going to get that power
As for gear mods to help with butterfly.
You have G4 pads so its already built in. But, for beginners am doubtful they have 700 to $2,000 pads.
Most helpful has been shock cord toe ties of some type. There is a various variations up there but my acquaintance makes his own. Calls them Pak1 via 5-hole hockey in Facebook. Also prolace has there own, monster is in the shitter (sucks. Liked there TGL's), kenesky hockey etc. And also a professor strap! (Also from 5-Hole) Dude they are awesome for letting you keep your pads stupid loose but keep your knee from popping sideways off the stack. For the person who doesn't have Warrior pads it's super useful. I legitimately was able to skate with my strap set to one hole on my Reebok P4's.
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Thanks for your comments and insights! Good point about toe set up and how they can promote ease of butterfly. Thanks for sharing!
@@VOGoalie You missing the professor strap lol. They are awesome.
When I was beginning to learn the butterfly when I went down my arms would puff out leaving a gap underneath my them so what I did to to stop that was put my stick on my wrists so it was getting caught on my glove and practiced butterfly like that so my gloves stayed in the same spot
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Thanks for your comment!
I find it ironic that the Voiceover Goalie opted against doing a voiceover for the on ice portion.
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Taking hockey goaltending advice from a Chinese guy.
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When u butterfly I just let my legs go limp
Your voice is so creamy
Tip 3 is really gonna help me. Once in a game, it was a 1-1 tie against the best team in our division. I made a save and the puck went into the corner. Then, their guy passed it to the slot, and another guy took a one timer, and it went right through my 6-hole. Now I know that if I use tip 3, those pucks won’t get past me. Thanks Man!
This is such a great video for younger goalies and beginners!! Thanks for always putting out awesome goalie content!
Thanks! Just trying to help goalies of ages and skill level!
nice pfp
Just shot a video on exactly this yesterday....... :)
Sweet! Looking forward to seeing it!
Once in game there came a penalty shot and my skates laces got under my skate i spotted it when the player started it somehow i saved it
Ps. Im not very good in england
Awesome stuff! Currently working on my butterfly as I learned quick the days of stand up goaltending are behind us. Tips are appreciated, as always!
Thanks for the kind words! Maybe stand up will make a comeback when the NHL bans goalies from dropping to their knees in an effort to increase scoring... well, maybe not!
i dont get the bringing the pads together at the fihole because i dont put them together i use my stick
Out here training to become a pond hockey tendy, thanks.
If you’re a youth goalie or a parent with one, PLEASE READ THIS..
I was a youth goalie, for years. I started out strong, was good, best around in my age group. When going from age 14 to 15 i got a new coach, one who thought HE knew best how goalies should play. He forced me to start staying upright more, and told me not to drop down unless i HAD to. It completely ruined my game, i never played high-school hockey, and i was never good again because i wasnt playing naturally.. Please, PLEASE if you see a coach making a kid change his style because he thinks he knows best, please stop it IMMEDIATELY. It killed me that i never got to have fun playing goalie again, and never moved on.. Note: This only goes for kids who have been playing the position for years and developed their own style. If they’re a brand new goalie, never played, then a bit of direction is good. But more than anything, the direction SHOULD be, “do whatever comes naturally to stop the puck” cause its different for every kid.
Please learn from my mistake of letting that coach ruin hockey for me...
I’m trying to be a goalie! Got some equipment but when I put it all on, not good. Can’t see down, can’t move. It’s like I’m wearing a suit of armor. I’ve played hockey for years as a forward. This is crazy! Any advice? I really want to do this.
Wayne what if the goalie is stand up I don't like the butterfly makes vulnerable to being scored on up stairs
Thanks I am starting in Bantam and have no idea what I’m doing and this helped🙏🏻🙏🏻
Hey Wayne what kind of mask do you have? I love the short chin with cheater cage you have and I'll be looking for one soon. Need options.
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Hey Vlad, thanks for your question. Powerslide is right, I wear a Protechsport mask. Specifically a Luongo mold. I actually have an extended chin but the cage window is large so it looks like a short chin (I used to wear a Mage RS, now that was a short chin!). If you're looking for a Protechsport, plan early as the lead time can often be lengthy as they are all made to order, but Michel is fantastic to work with in making your mask!
But how do you get the pads to stay upright, do you just crank your knees or something?
Do u have to be extremely flexible
No you are totally awesome
What a great video on the fundamentals. Thanks for posting!
Thanks so much! Just trying to help out goalies of all skill levels!
Wow, thanks a lot!