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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video, I review the Star Citizen heavy freight cargo hauler ship, the MISC Hull C, including a tour as well as detailed ship review. I include gameplay footage of the MISC Hull C in 4K at 60FPS (or as close as I could get). The gameplay for this Star Citizen MISC Hull C multi crew cargo hauling ship review is from patch 3.20.
00:00 Introduction
01:17 Ship Tour & Deck Layout
06:21 Combat Performance
08:07 Handling & Visibility
09:51 Operating Costs & Profitability
11:48 Summary & Verdict
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Looks like the perfect ship for box delivery missions
Deliver presents
I'm going to use this to deploy probes
Not quite big enough in my opinion. A Javelin might be more appropriate.
Imagine a Q-ship variant in the style of WW1.
Rather than a defenseless merchant, when the spindle is opened it reveals some absolutely ginormous guns.
Yes please!!!
There's no one like you Farrister.
The combination of your calming voice, choice of music, editing, information (knowledge), visuals and user experience (timestaps etc.).
You have the best well-rounded content I have found on Star Citizen, which is why I keep coming back every video.
If I had to pick on something, it would be the lack of subtitles. As someone who is hard of hearing, it's sometimes hard to focus on both watching the video and listening to what you say, and so I just wanted to know if it would be possible for you to consider having subtitles added to your videos? The auto-generated ones by TH-cam aren't great.
This isn't your fault by any means, this is a problem I have with videos, movies, TV and even everyday life when I talk to someone.
Wow, thank you for your kind words. I actually usually do make subtitles for all of my scripted videos. Sometimes the Farrister Play videos don't have them, but all the regular videos should (reviews, location spotlights, drydock etc.)
For some reason TH-cam had this one saved as draft instead of published to live - if you try now, it should be active. Sorry it didn't work in time for you to view. But thank you for your kind words :)
Farrister is the ultimate ear-candy.
I love your ship reviews, easily the most professional and consistent, with very high production polish and extremely informative. You strike the right balance between keeping it factual and unbiased, while also expressive and exciting. Please do not underestimate how much your approach is NEEDED by the community, when making decisions on what ships they should buy with their hard-earned money - whether real or in-game.
Thank you for your kind words :)
I'm honestly hoping the Hull B's multi-window cockpit stays so that it has more visibility.
MISC: Visibility is overrated.
Great video brother ✌🏻you are quickly becoming one of my go to star citizen content creators 💯 you, morph, oli34 make the game and community Awsome!
Wow, mentioned in the same sentence as some MVPs there! Thank you for your kind words
I was waiting for this review man, can't trust other reviewers but you. Good work as always
Thank you for your kind words :)
This, this is what you do best mate, your ship reviews are really good.
Cheers!
I look forward to the proper implementation of interstellar travel so that we can see the Hull-C as it was meant to be. A true long distance freight train.
Choo choo
The proper inplementation of interstellar travel is kinda the inflection point for CIG right now.
Either they back up their PTU bluster at CitCon, or a lot of people will walk away.
Wait till u see the Hull-e lol
The narration paired with the background music sounded brilliant. Fitted the subject matter so well.
Thank you :)
Your like the calming Bob Ross of highly valued and knowledgeable ship reviewer's. I always watch before bed and it keeps me in a good mindset. Thank you sir
o7 thank you for your kind words
You have edited this video well and the visuals are very good.
Thank you kindly :)
Awesome review, good realistic view of a ship that has been hyped quite heavily. I still love the looks and concept but we'll need a bigger verse for this one to really shine.
Still amazed at you being able to fill that cargo grid up by the way!
Very cool review. I'd love to see how the cargo mover chair will end up working. Thanks for the video, Farrister!
Me too!
“This is some top tier ladder gameplay”- haha! Farrister, your vidi’s have it all m8, even the comedy!! ✌️
Haha, just me turning into an old cynic :D
How could Friday get any better..? AHA! A ship review by Farrister. Perfect. 5* 😺
Yay!
Long have we waited! But finally, the day has come! 🎉 Farrister's review of the Hull-C! 🎉
Next step: F8C :D
My wife has a model of the Hull C in her bedside cabinet
You must not be doing the job.
@@SpaceDad42 too busy flying my F8C
Does it deliver the goods, or also fall short of expectations?
I really like the Hull series interiors. Good stuff!
Not a universally held view, but good for you!
Like these videos 🙂 they chill.
Thanks :)
As always a very fine video review, with excellent video and narration. Also, typically understated and conservative in judgements about the merits or lack thereof, necessitating the average viewer to read between the lines. It's a wise policy to present something objectively and let the viewer draw their own conclusions. However, in this case, I really think that a summary statement like "Not recommended at this time" would have been very appropriate.
Thanks, thought I was kinda there with my closing! "So the verdict has to be it might be worth it for you, depending on how much you paid. But as of right now, whilst there’s potential there for the Hull C, the gameplay hasn’t fully caught up with that potential yet."
CIG missed a trick not naming it Hull-P...
If anyone wants to do the math? How much SCU would the hull-p have following from the previous and planned hulls?
@@noideas439it was just a joke
@@AxeBearingVoyagerso this is a very very very rough approximate using lots of diminishing returns on their size increases. 1,579,252,180.7462 scu would be it
@@AxeBearingVoyager
Pretty stupid one.
@@noideas439Hull P 23040 SCU if the scaling is linear
This channel deserves 100K subs, easy. Never fails to deliver...heh...puns.
Thank you for your kind words - a pun always welcome here... I'm pretty humbled that so many people come here to watch my little videos, people are awesome!
YES! just listened to space tomatoe's podcast #120: you said the nomad is already a great ship! and with tractor turret even better! Nomad FTW!!
ok, now to watch the video
Haha, Nomad is really not a ship for me, but I can see how objectively it's pretty good for the size/price
I loved the "This is top tier Ladder Gamplay"... Almost lost my shit at that.
xD
Thanks for sharing and well done on the review. Are you working for TV?
I wish!
There's more than just one thing a Hull C can do - and the thing it's best at, and I intend to use my Hull C for, is quite possibly the most boring and lackluster thing possible, but I'd argue the Hull C does it better than hauling cargo -- and that's storage. The idea at work is that for some large endeavors -- large scale mining, base-building with a Pioneer, pirate operations, or even fleet logistics, the Hull C doesn't necessarily have to be about profitability, so much as capacity. Putting a Hull C (or any large Hull, really) at a hub which an org or small group of friends is working from means you have a place to offload materials that you need together for a large-scale effort later, or that might have a particularly low price at the moment that you don't want to take advantage of, or that you'll be taking to multiple destinations, some of which don't have large jump points to get to, and will thus require many trips with smaller ships. (Granted, the idea of a space warehouse isn't glorious or interesting, and also kind of a long goal, considering cargo and jump point modifications and everything else - but if it winds up being untenable, I'm likely to make a considerable gain just on the store credits).
I really REALLY enjoy your reviews and find them very informative. As an Industry player the Hull C might be something down the road but right now no. Right now the Hull B would be the sweet spot (I have a Starfarer which does make aUEC for me)..
Thanks, and wow, must be one of the few Starfarer players!
If they ever add radio stations in game please ask to voice one. Your voice is calm and sootbing. Would love to be able to listen to a "history of the UEE" or the likes narrated by you lol.
I'd love that!
Seems like a good ship for npcs to use to keep the economy in balance and populate the universe with juicy targets.
Could be!
Seeing them put this ship out gives me hope for them to release the liberator
They really need to adjust how it's displayed on the MFD screen when not extended (@6:26)
Yeah...
The Hull-D 😏
I... but... *sigh*
Hull-C ock
Another awesome vid! I would love to own a Hull C but there's no point to it in game. 🤣
I think there's a point to it, it's just not there yet :(
Great video Farrister. As always this video is up there with all your videos. The Hull series of ships hold no interest with me. I have a smaller ship that does all the cargo hauling I need. Granted, It's from the same manufacturer, the Freelancer Max, and that's all I need. I have a couple other ships of transporting cargo, but not anywhere as much as the Hull C. The risk isn't worth it. Thanks for the video. Take care my friend, fly safe, and I'll see you in the verse.
The risk isn't all that different unless you feel the need to min-max it all the time. A MAX cargo hold full of i think it's Agricium from Yela will cost you around a mil and net you maybe 30-40k worth of profit, while a Hull-C full of Iron will also cost you around a mil but will net you nearly 200k worth of profit.
Thanks Koron
As a Star Citizen space trucker I love my Hull-C. Sure it lacks some gameplay loops and I can't wait for them. But as someone who avoids combat and PVP like the plague, I love to travel long distances with massive cargo from station to station. It's my kind of gameplay. I'm only into the industrial side of Star Citizen (Mining, Trading, Salvaging). It's a unique ship imo and I like the idea that it's only for space trading, not planetside (Which makes more sense to bring smaller traders to planets)
Edit: Yes, the price is way too much. I didn't buy it full price ofc, I just melted ships I've collected for 12 years now.
Super interesting. I think people like you make the Space more lived in. That is awesome ^^
I really wanna give you my F8C so you can make a review on it, i can give it to you as much times as needed :D
Fear not, I'll be doing my review. But it takes a couple of weeks of flying to form a conclusion, expect late October, early November :)
@@Farrister ok :)
Great Video! I wonder how they get the food into the kitchen. And how they get the components into the ship.
A good question!
Hey farrister, will you review F8C these days or after it is releases, i love you ship reviewing video so much 😊
Yes, I've been flying one to learn the ship :) I expect I'll share something late Oct early Nov
@@Farrister fantastic, i am looking forward to see your coming up work, keep going
Damn, I´d love to run the Hull C with more valuable cargo then just "Helium" Imagine a full of Quantanium worth more then 100 mil and then paying 5 mil for an escort and the pressure must be so fun :D
I've managed to do one run with a cargo cost of 2.9m only run that worked and I was bricking it lol. Made about 500k.
Way to make it so much better is adding the trading comms.
When it works I find it a fun loop
Yup, it's pretty stressful lol
@@Farrister trying again wish me luck lol
Another 1.4 mil down. Better odds at vegas
was wondering if i should get the banu merchman, not sure if it will go up in price again
What im gonna be doing is buying the Hull D, mainly because it gives you the Hull C and Hercules C2 as loaners currently, and once the Hull D comes out, the cargo gameplay will likely be more fleshed out so i dont mind paying an extra 50 for a better ship in the future.
Gonna be getting it for much cheaper aswell anyway so im fine
Big spender though!
My major gripe with the Hull-C is that suits and weapons are located right at the main entrance where pirates are most likely to enter, giving them access to it.
A matter of convenience, for some :D
Its like keeping your gun safe wide open at the entrance of your house while someone is kicking your door in at the sometime.. Its a dumb spot for weapons storage..
the over the comms trading you mentioned would be A MASSIVE qol change from this double docking glitchy mess its at now
Yup...
it feels like, without cargo and with those engines, this ship should move FAST, cause those are some crazy looking engines attached to it.
So i looked on RSI, it isnt able to be bought there. So i check star hanger. A gray market website, roughly 280 for the ship. What do the upgrades look like? Good question, because according to thesr freaks on SH its 319 for the caterpillar to hull c! Now im no wizard but these numbers dont add up
2:25 since there's 2 extra seats, can each of the extra seat take 1 of the turrets?
I get furious when I see a ship I want to learn about and dont see it on this channel 😂
Oh no! Which ship?
Flight ready ships are invariably more expensive than concepts of a similar nature/size gameplay loop. CIG probably saw they had 10s of thousands already in the game and maybe were worried about players breaking the economy! So upped the price
Yes, but this is MUCH more expensive!
Can you recommend which hyperdrive upgrade would be best for the hull-c? Struggling to find info online.
I use something mil spec, like a Pontes or TS-2
@@Farrister thank you!
@@Farrister Lol, now I’m stuck at a station with over 1 million in cargo and the docking port wont extend when I spawn the ship, and it takes too long to EVA to the ship so it gets stored automatically. lol If I do the trick to spawn it in a hanger it will explode because the cargo arms are extended. Fun times
Could you make a drydock video about the apollo?
It's on the to do list :)
@@Farrister nice!
My A2 full of cargo quantumed into a planet like a day ago and blew up as a glitch. Until that kinda thing is completely fixed, I would not recommend buying a cargo ship because you never know when you may waste loads of money cause the game glitched. I was debating on getting a Hull C cause I like to do cargo sometimes, as I find it relaxing, but with that risk lurking about I don't think its worth it. It is a cool ship, and if everything gets fixed I would reconsider.
"Smaller cargo hauler like the HERCULES." me with my little connie :(
lol, Taurus is one of the best I think ;-)
Why CIG didn’t think to just add 4 remote turrets, 2 on top and 2 underneath on both ends and then add the tractor beams to those turrets, allowing for 2 turret gunners / engineers I’ll never know. Pilot turrets was such a daft design choice for this ship.
Must be so difficult to balance with so many ships in game, to be fair lol
You forgot to mention, that currently most of the times the stations have not enough comodities to fill it completely and that it is currently and in the near future not usable at all (See patch notes below). Currently on LIVE servers you do never see one working. In the last days i saw one, destroyed and near a station.
Star Citizen Alpha 3.21.0 PTU.8766037 Patch Notes
Known Issues
MISC Hull C - PU - Vehicles - Can't undock the Hull-C
I haven't encountered that problem, probably because I encountered so many others instead
Question because im kinda new ingame what can you do with these components if you have acces to them
Right now, absolutely nothing. It's all there for future gameplay
@@Farrister good to know thx
i really just want CIG zu release the Orion :D
Big mining, please!
@@Farrister can’t wait to munch on some big rocks 😂
how is CIG gunna try and get away with the silhouette of the Hull C looking like a damn DONG on the HUD
It's a major oversight. A cock up, as they say
Any price north of a hundred is insane to pay, and even the hundred, I would quibil over.
I dunno, by the time things are ironed out, I think people who got the Hull C for 200 probably have something decent. (assuming things are ironed out, of course)
let me give you a tip. (mouse jitter) not good bad BAD ugly lol. u can do 0.05 to 0.08 for normal daily drive for gameplay. when entering the ship right off bat i can see when you picked up the mouse and moved it to turn more. this will be lowered down if u added just 0.05 mouse smoothing. for cleaner shots thats are cinematic by hand do around 0.80 or higher of mouse smoothing. this gives u cleaner movements even while picking up the mouse and adding more rotation the game wont even detect you have picked the mouse up if u apply it fast enough to keep the pan going. this way u don't fap around with commands from GTC or other programs that allow mouse controls in games macros.
with mouse smoothing on. you can now do smooth cinematic shots cleaner.
Will give it a shot, thanks
Finally a ship designed for backseat piloting!
I can't get over just how much it looks like a dong in the ship status HUD.
Naturally I overlooked such childish concerns. I didn't once refer to my Hull C with any phallic references. Not once. At least, not on mic...
I cannot even get my ship to work. Will not undock. Dock doors locked me in one time. It has been a mess. The ship looks amazing, just wished it worked as intended.
A common bug :(
That spindle is going to be ridiculously long on the Hull E when it turns up
that thing better have a horizontal "elevator"
@@MrSylvandragon I'd hope so according to the wiki it's 370ish metres long though I don't know if that's extended or not
I can't even contemplate!
I use this ship for combat, I've taken down 2 F8c in no time -_-
I'll stick with my caterpillar. The hull c just looks boring to me. I don't like the layout of the interior either. For a dedicated hauler there should be more creature comforts imo. Some kind of recreational room and a bit more crew facilities
Did they fix the cargo stuff yet or is it still broken?
Very broken
@@Farrister many thanks
Thanks for the vid. Even if I were willing to pay $500 real life dolleroos on a video game ship - which I'm not - I wouldn't spend it on this until the game play was less boring and less annoying to deal with. For that price I expect an experience worthy of $500, and this ain't it. At all. 😅 Neat idea for a ship, though, and I *am* a cargo hauler so I don't hate it. But for now it's a hard pass.
The price is brutal
Hull C or Hull D or E?
That is the question...
I tried this thing and kept falling through the floor when entering the engineering section. Between that and having no directions on how to park it at the docking port. I quit. Even after watching videos it was a pain to dock. To each his own but hard pass for me.
On a side note, i keep running into bugs in SC these days and it’s just killing my motivation to play at all. This is pre3.23
If he ever need to do video on Polaris ones in game hit me up I got one
I'll be excited to see it in game!
This ship imo has had the buggiest launch out of any ship I know.
It was rough. But confusingly, PTU wasn't so bad as live
@@Farrister The game and build itself was pretty fine imo. Just that the ship itself was one of the buggiest I've seen launched in a while. From the undock bugs to cargo not working to ejecting people from their chair mid warp.
I was playing with the Hull C during the two days of IAE 2023, and it was an absolute fiasco!
It's not a problem if the ship is slow or takes an era to load a full load. That is understood by the mechanics of the ship itself. The problem is, right now the cargo transfer system is unstable and you may find yourself unexpectedly floating in the void wondering, where is my ship? Or with multiple bugs for loading and unloading and when you can carry charge for several million credits... It's a recipe for disaster.
I finished playing it when I lost over $2.5 million because of those failures. Eventually, it will be a great ship, but until the bugs are fixed, I don't recommend it.
I just read this comment on another video :D
@@Farrister you bet. But I prefer to insist. Is very fuc.. to see how, after a lot playing hours, your credits gone, and is a fair advice for other players.😉
Farrister is the best.
Thanks Mom! :D
i don’t understand why there is two turrets but only one can be used it’s nonsense
I don't understand either lol
They forgot to make the gameplay for it fun.
They didn’t forget. It was intentional.
Haha
Love this ship, but being limited to 1 weapons turret at a time is kind of a disappointment
I don't see why they can't let you load /unload at stations without cargo but just at a penalty. I'm talking 3x as long to represent that station not being optimally set up for the Hull c and higher.
This way every station is a choice> less risk more time for R&Rs, low load times but high traffic thus risk at a LEO
🛀
show me a band and a hellcat
What type of Hellcat?
You're a more diplomatic man than me. You say it has potential, I say it's their weakest ship launch in years.
*looks up Cutlass Steel release date* :D
Difference between relaxing and boring is nicely show at HULL C - C2 trades are relaxing - HULL C is boring as f. (when it is not frustrating as f).
Haha
I was disappointed by the Hull C. Even if we ignore the bugs there are still too many issues.
The obvious one is CIG's insistence that large ships should not be able to defend themselves against fighters and it's even worse when the ship isn't a combat ship. You must bring an escort even on a safe trip or any old Aurora could potentially kill you and it's your fault for not preparing. And the docking door being open when spawned not being a bug is just mind-boggling.
The interior feels dated, closer to the Starfarer than the Corsair. The living space in particular is not so well thought out with a larger than the crew table and the food preparation area and a single shoilet. And how are you getting supplies in with only the ladder, backpack?
And then there's the tier zero gameplay. It's clunky, it's risky, it's waiting for timers to tick down. None of which is something you are probably looking for when hauling. For someone who has had a "pretty solid idea how it's going to work" for years this is shameful.
Maybe things will improve down the line but CIG's track record for that is years. Until then my Hull C will be a large paperweight in the hangar.
The Morphologis video on the interior said it all to me!
Currently in the PU the cargo and docking aspect of the Hull C is totally broken, and I would advise avoidance of this ship if you value your sanity. It really is in a disgraceful state.
It had a very short window of working, it would seem
@@Farrister It's typical CIG. Its entire raison être is broken
Cant undock most of the time. Cargo gets reclaimed and waste of auec.
I lost millions :(
The design of the living space is so nonsensical, including the fact that it can only be reached via a small ladder shaft.
Don't eat too much whilst you're up there
In a(n indiegame) game called FLIGHT OF NOVA; the planets are full-scale, there is mass, drag and lift in the flight model, docking speeds for geosynch missions can exceed 12,000 km/h. Where is the potential for this kind of realism in a massless dragless Newtonian-physics-less game like Star Citizen. There's not even a proper mass-to-thrust sim on take-off and landing, it's just push a button to go up and anybody standing nearby is UNAFFECTED by the tens to hundreds to METRIC TONNES of levitating downforce. I just... it needs work, this whole endeavour - back to basics, lads. IMHO. :)
Honestly I'd be fine with that, lots of experience of docking in Kerbal, everything would end well ;)
Where is the wet toilet paper?
Wet?
@@Farrister yep, for in the bathroom when your taking a shower in the shoilet
It DOESN'T work...
Desperately needs some fixing :(
if only the ship worked on live and ptu for the next patch i treully believe you should pass on this shit untill after it actually is fixed ingame. cant load/unload atm nor on the ptu patch the docking is bugged when on recall it spawns inside the station etc etc they say they fixed it multiple times and it yust is getting annoying.
tried it, gooood looord it was boring and tedious xD
Sadly they released a broken spacecraft!
Seems it was working better on PTU than live!
@@Farrister That's great to hear! Like you I have also lost millions on cargo hauls! XD
Meh. It's fine.
Fine?
@@Farrister I don't have any intention of running that much cargo. Not a bad ship tho. It's fine.
I’m sorry. $500?? *Chokes on space dust* you’re absolutely insane to pay that amount. When you said $200, I thought, “well that was slightly more than I paid for the Constellation Andromeda.” But $500?? Price gouging for sure. If I paid $500, I’d want like stickers and a little scale model. Maybe a thank you letter from the designer but just the ship in a video game? I’d rather pay for groceries. I understand the capacity of the cargo limits and how much you could earn but with bugs and risk, $500 is gouging it.
Great video and thank you for your service by keeping us well informed with your reviews. 🫡
I guess money holds different value for different people though!