You're always putting the camper truck at a disadvantage, Make an overnight video where the jeep has to pack and set up camping gear, maybe after it snows and see who had the better nights sleep.
I love this idea. I love that they took an every day truck and made it an off road king. I hate seeing that jeep as the comparison. Why compare apples to steak. Off road king vs tow king. Instead, do challenges that the Ford is excellent at, and compare the jeep... such as overnight camping, or towing a trailer up an off road trail etc
@@mountainmanjim6366 And how about actually challenging the Jeep for a change. Is Moab the only decent off-roading venue left? Maybe a trip to some coastal beaches and sand dunes for a challenge...to be honest, IMHO, the Colorado centric travels are becoming repetitive.
Great way to start Sunday’s. These videos get my pumped! Then I remember it’s like 7am on a Sunday and the neighbors would get mad if I go rev my motors....
For two of the three constantly belittling the Ford and giving Andre hell for it, he is a solid driver and has taken that truck plenty of places and proven it is a good set up. It is an expensive set up, but well balanced for its size and weight. Though all of you could tone down the drama a bit.
YES!!!Any dummy CAN go offroad" ,but that doesn't mean they will make it out!!! great video my friends, It's always great to watch TFL in the mornings"!¡!
Please change the lights on the F250 to something that doesn't blind oncoming traffic (Morimoto or OEM). There's a reason the OEM lights aren't that bright. They're like 4-5 ft off the ground, right at eye level for 95% of drivers.
Hey guys, I got the package up at Georgia Pass today! I wasn’t sure where your community page is that you are asking for people to post. There was no card in the Tupperware package.
I knew I saw your Gladiator parked in a driveway in Keystone! You guys are the reason we took our new Gladiator up Deer Creek. We had a blast. Thanks for the inspiration!
Great way to start Sunday’s. These videos get my pumped! Then I remember it’s like 7am on a Sunday and the neighbors would get mad if I go rev my motors....
I love the series, it is unfortunate about the whole Human Malware, that canceled your plans for a multiple state run. I am hoping you revisit this plan in the near future. I am sure you could be safe using caution, since you will probably not be in contact with very many people while on the trails, in your trucks. Just my 2 cents.
100% agree. Makes me wonder if cost became the issue, due to insufficient sponsorship. The “Human Malware” issue is definitely serious stuff but social distancing in the wilderness is probably safer than Boulder.
Andre is just full of surprises. He is also a FAA Part 107 commercial drone pilot? Hope that bird was registered. Glad to see a man always improving himself with licenses and certifications. Now, if he can just get that Class A CDL.🤣
I've really enjoyed this series. I wish it could become a regular someday. You live in a great state for trails. Some of us have to drive 16 hours there because all we have is corn fields!
For a second I thought this had turned into World of Warships with The Mighty Jingles, when that martial music popped up. An easy mistake to make with that Ford-class battleship. Love the series, guys, those places you take us to, are gorgeous.
Trail boss wouldn’t have a problem. I’ve done it, admittedly in the other direction, in a stock ‘19 Titan Pro-4X while accompanied by a stock Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude
On the Spark you can just grab the bottom like you did and flip it over quick, it shuts off instantly. He needs a controller and the spark works great.
This 👆. Very much this, I use the spark with the dedicated controller all over the place and the only issues I ever have are in major winds (>35 mph). Usable range for it is around 1km
I know you didn’t get to do the series you wanted for no time pavement needed. You still made it entertaining. If the budget allows maybe next year you can do more of a road trip series
@Mike DeMarco negative. We found the location of flag, and it was gone. We searched within 30 paces for an hour to no avail. There was 4" of snow and falling hard, so perhaps we just missed it, or box was buried.. but im pretty sure someone got it before us
This is a really good series but how about you drop that last easter egg off in Southern California instead of Colorado since they have one they dont even want to look for already. Lol I wish you had access to a little more off camber stuff on some of these trails.
Andre sometimes it feels good to scratch a little. Get a wrap on it the good ones are pretty protective. Roman you should take Blaze with so he can mark the territory for TFL.
@@TFLtruck so.. story time. When we got up there it was snowing already and wind blowing. Didn't see the trail yall went up at first and ended up taking a rough trail opposite of where yall placed package. Drove 2 miles and turned around. Came back and checked Google maps and realized yall took the trail off to the south. So we went up to where they blocked the road, and had to use the video to establish where yall were standing. So we located the big rock, and tree. Located exactly where you placed the flag and was missing. So because at this point there was about 4" of snow, and wind.. we thought, well what if the flag had blown away and was under snow, so we spent an hour pacing within 30 feet. Under each tree, in the trees, next to rocks etc. We decided, that the flag location was a stout location and likely someone had already taken it. At any rate. The package may be buried in plain sight lol, but we gave a valiant effort and surmised likely already picked up. Thank you for the trail though and we will try next time!!!
You guys are awesome, I crack up every time the tire wake drowns the camera which has become a staple shot of each video.. Keep up the good work though. I do agree with others, documents some overnight stuff.
Mosquito pass is a good one. The elevation either makes you appreciate your turbocharger or wish you had one. It's not bad but it can't be done by every 4wd vehicle, as high clearance is the biggest advantage. I'd suggest coming up from the Leadville side, because the switchbacks are a hazard if you're going down.
I really enjoy your videos, however, being awful nice to that Ford, it can take more than that, unless that camper really is a hindrance. If I was closer I would definitely try for the Easter Eggs. My ride is a 2020 F350 Tremor 6.7. Doesn't the F250 have the off road gauges to see slope and side angle?
IMO as a person who has hunted Moose....it aint scared of nothing except anything bigger than it so your perfectly safe in your giant Ford. Just don't get out and if its a cow with a calf all bets are off and you desevere to get killed or hurt for approaching it.
I would love to see you take the camper off the F250 and do a gas mileage test empty, then load it up for the Ike Gauntlet, the tow mileage loop with it. Really interested to see how the lift and tires affect it. It would also be cool to see it do some trails without the camper. Andre’ you can still have snacks with an ice chest, and a camp chair.
SUPER TREMOR DON'T CARE (thanks Nathan). This F250 reminds me of the song The Mighty 142 by Irish trucker band, Triaxel. The chorus goes, " At the foot of some steep mountain, you simply sink the shoe, and you thank the Lord for Scania and the Mighty 142." Check it out sometime Guys. Absolutely loved the water crossings.
That was good entertainment,..wish I could travel up there, and try to find that cache,..those RIDGE wallets are great,.I use mine all the time, sure saves fumbling around for for your money and or cards when needed.
If that little camper really feels top heavy on side slopes you might want to revisit your suspension setup. My truck camper feels a little top heavy on my softly sprung Dodge but rock solid on my older and stiffer Ford.
Listening to Andre complain about rubbing a tree, or how big his truck is, gets so old I can't even finish these videos. We get it. It's a big olllllll truck. We are all so impressed. You guys are hardly testing that truck. I used to love the videos, but a video with you two just cb ing back and forth, with nothing interesting to say, is just not good. Im not trying to hate, just thought I would give some feedback.
@@jeremyhaimes2613 Maybe more truck and less inside the cab boring conversations. When a tiny leaf is hanging in the road, smash it. Push it to its limits. Take it over some rough terrain, take it through some mud, get it stuck, see what it takes to get it out. See what the truck can actually do, not just what trails it "fits down". Maybe I'm misinterpreting this series. If its an overland truck put it in a situation you might find yourself in and have no choice to go through. Anyways not trying to hate to much, just feedback. It's an impressive truck that has yet to impress.
The F250 wins hands down because it's a huge beast on all terrains and the Jeep is smaller on mud terrains. Apart from the camper hitting trees the Super Tremor didn't put a foot wrong.
Perfect for a Sunday morning wake up. Great views. Proper entertainment.
TFL should organize a monthly or quarterly Off-Road Meet-Up in Colorado to experience different trails all over the state. Could be Awesome...
Andre: I'm running Toyo Open Country tires...proceeds to show Falken Wildpeaks in every shot...
Andrea?
@@imHim710 Spelling...ugh...thanks for pointing out my error...fixed.
Yeah I heard that too I was like no it doesn't lol
Love my 35" Wildpeaks, fwiw
I made a mistake because I have been thinking about our project Gun Smoke and its Toyo tires. Sorry! -Andre.
You're always putting the camper truck at a disadvantage, Make an overnight video where the jeep has to pack and set up camping gear, maybe after it snows and see who had the better nights sleep.
Agreed, they are so negative about it. Many would give their right arm for it. Do the even read these comments?
I love this idea. I love that they took an every day truck and made it an off road king. I hate seeing that jeep as the comparison. Why compare apples to steak. Off road king vs tow king. Instead, do challenges that the Ford is excellent at, and compare the jeep... such as overnight camping, or towing a trailer up an off road trail etc
@@mountainmanjim6366 And how about actually challenging the Jeep for a change. Is Moab the only decent off-roading venue left? Maybe a trip to some coastal beaches and sand dunes for a challenge...to be honest, IMHO, the Colorado centric travels are becoming repetitive.
Great way to start Sunday’s. These videos get my pumped! Then I remember it’s like 7am on a Sunday and the neighbors would get mad if I go rev my motors....
For two of the three constantly belittling the Ford and giving Andre hell for it, he is a solid driver and has taken that truck plenty of places and proven it is a good set up. It is an expensive set up, but well balanced for its size and weight. Though all of you could tone down the drama a bit.
I agree, gets very old. Every minor inconvenience is blown up.
Melodrama...unnecessary.
Kind of like the media, sensationalizing things.
Falken Wildpeak AT3W not Toyos
Glad I wasn’t the only one that caught that LOL
That trail was better then some paved roads.
Agreed. I suspect even a novice would be disappointed with the lack of challenges. Maybe bring one of the Minis next time!🤣
Better than any road in Wisconsin.
YES!!!Any dummy CAN go offroad" ,but that doesn't mean they will make it out!!! great video my friends, It's always great to watch TFL in the mornings"!¡!
Please change the lights on the F250 to something that doesn't blind oncoming traffic (Morimoto or OEM). There's a reason the OEM lights aren't that bright. They're like 4-5 ft off the ground, right at eye level for 95% of drivers.
Fk um
@@barrybambmessagedeletedbyy7467 Ok mr cool.
Hey guys, I got the package up at Georgia Pass today! I wasn’t sure where your community page is that you are asking for people to post. There was no card in the Tupperware package.
I knew I saw your Gladiator parked in a driveway in Keystone! You guys are the reason we took our new Gladiator up Deer Creek. We had a blast. Thanks for the inspiration!
This is my favorite channel hands down tfl anything is phenomenal!!
Loved the video TFL.. great Job
Great way to start Sunday’s. These videos get my pumped! Then I remember it’s like 7am on a Sunday and the neighbors would get mad if I go rev my motors....
I love the series, it is unfortunate about the whole Human Malware, that canceled your plans for a multiple state run. I am hoping you revisit this plan in the near future. I am sure you could be safe using caution, since you will probably not be in contact with very many people while on the trails, in your trucks. Just my 2 cents.
Exactly what I said. There's no reason they couldn't have done it.
100% agree. Makes me wonder if cost became the issue, due to insufficient sponsorship. The “Human Malware” issue is definitely serious stuff but social distancing in the wilderness is probably safer than Boulder.
Andre has so many Engages, that even Picard heard them from the fictional future.
"My gauge is engaged...I'm engaged" Love it Andre!
This is one of the first times Tommy isn't driving the gladiator.
Yeah it feels like a not the mama situation
I had a spark for years for that kinda stuff! I just bought the actual remote control for it and it worked great!
st johns trail is another good beginning trail. I did it yesterday with a 2020 eco diesel jl
Thanks for the tip..i just got my gladiator sport as a newbie..im ready for beginner trails..
@@jossa942 there where a few of those on it yesterday.
The Tremor is an awesome truck! I love mine, had no problems going up some of the passes. Having the trail control with three diesel makes it easy.
Andre is just full of surprises. He is also a FAA Part 107 commercial drone pilot? Hope that bird was registered. Glad to see a man always improving himself with licenses and certifications. Now, if he can just get that Class A CDL.🤣
"I'm engaged"! A Russian captain Picard? Hahaha
Outstanding! Great to see you guys taking a big truck out. Made a comment about it last week, but see now you guys were already on top of it.
No Pavement Needed is an entertaining and informative series, bigger is not always better. The next series should include a Bronco vs Jeep.
The Spark is a great little drone. You just need the Fly More Combo that gets you the controller so you don't have to use wifi
Great to you guy's drive your vehicle on these trails & give us good info of the trails as well which gives us an idea on size of truck we could take.
I think I’m ready for you guys to pull the camper off the truck and do some horsepower mods see where you can take it next without the camper
I have done Georgia Pass & Boreas Pass the past 15 years for the fall colors. Great afternoons spent there.
Good stuff.
F250 set up Simple solution : A slide in pop up camper with jack stands - leave it behind for the trails you are not camping at
You don't just go off road but you also go tree trimming and drone catching. Nicely done. 👍👍👍👍
You guys really do such a great job filming these!
Can't get enough of the No Pavement Needed series!
Looking like a nice enjoyable trail. Don't think I would of needed 4wd in my tacoma, or f150.
I've really enjoyed this series. I wish it could become a regular someday. You live in a great state for trails. Some of us have to drive 16 hours there because all we have is corn fields!
For a second I thought this had turned into World of Warships with The Mighty Jingles, when that martial music popped up. An easy mistake to make with that Ford-class battleship. Love the series, guys, those places you take us to, are gorgeous.
This seems like a perfect test for the Trailboss. What zee heck TFL?
Trail boss wouldn’t have a problem. I’ve done it, admittedly in the other direction, in a stock ‘19 Titan Pro-4X while accompanied by a stock Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude
You should do a quarter ton truck challenge. The S10 ZR2, Ranger Xtreme, and an early tacoma TRD
Absolutely love this series. Keep it up TFL!
Looks like a day in the park for the Subaru GL. Thanks
On the Spark you can just grab the bottom like you did and flip it over quick, it shuts off instantly. He needs a controller and the spark works great.
This 👆. Very much this, I use the spark with the dedicated controller all over the place and the only issues I ever have are in major winds (>35 mph). Usable range for it is around 1km
But what if we want an Andre? He seems like a good overlanding buddy with that rig, haha
I know you didn’t get to do the series you wanted for no time pavement needed. You still made it entertaining. If the budget allows maybe next year you can do more of a road trip series
Beautiful scenery. Love it.
So... im up here and its snowing like crazy. I can't find this thing anywhere
@Mike DeMarco negative. We found the location of flag, and it was gone. We searched within 30 paces for an hour to no avail. There was 4" of snow and falling hard, so perhaps we just missed it, or box was buried.. but im pretty sure someone got it before us
This is a really good series but how about you drop that last easter egg off in Southern California instead of Colorado since they have one they dont even want to look for already. Lol
I wish you had access to a little more off camber stuff on some of these trails.
Excellent production!
Bluetooth?? for a drone?? That seems wrong.
Bluetooth has an extremely short range, typically well under 100 feet.
Never been so early! Thank you TFLT for all your work over the years.
Andre sometimes it feels good to scratch a little. Get a wrap on it the good ones are pretty protective. Roman you should take Blaze with so he can mark the territory for TFL.
Do some videos with a 4Runner!
So I found location, but someone beat us to it!!! Dang it!!! Next time
Really? No stash?
@@TFLtruck so.. story time. When we got up there it was snowing already and wind blowing. Didn't see the trail yall went up at first and ended up taking a rough trail opposite of where yall placed package. Drove 2 miles and turned around. Came back and checked Google maps and realized yall took the trail off to the south. So we went up to where they blocked the road, and had to use the video to establish where yall were standing.
So we located the big rock, and tree. Located exactly where you placed the flag and was missing. So because at this point there was about 4" of snow, and wind.. we thought, well what if the flag had blown away and was under snow, so we spent an hour pacing within 30 feet. Under each tree, in the trees, next to rocks etc. We decided, that the flag location was a stout location and likely someone had already taken it. At any rate. The package may be buried in plain sight lol, but we gave a valiant effort and surmised likely already picked up. Thank you for the trail though and we will try next time!!!
Whew....wasn’t sure you were going to make it across some of those creeks.
Andre . Your tires are falken wild peak No toyos..
Would love to have these guys come out to Oregon and go on a couple cruises with our subaru offroad groups.
Add a front camera to the f250 its real helpful on the trail
Is it just me or did it look like Andre was sitting really close to the steering wheel 😂. You guys are great, love this series.
Like i said before..... Tks to you guys i have going to off road in Colorado on my bucket list
At the end of this arms race for the most lumens we all go blind
Nooooo i am watching this today! And we were up there on Saturday and had no idea lol
You guys are awesome, I crack up every time the tire wake drowns the camera which has become a staple shot of each video.. Keep up the good work though. I do agree with others, documents some overnight stuff.
How about an episode on the ultimate 4 wheeling getting into extreme trouble and out of extreme trouble?
Yes please!
Mosquito pass is a good one. The elevation either makes you appreciate your turbocharger or wish you had one. It's not bad but it can't be done by every 4wd vehicle, as high clearance is the biggest advantage. I'd suggest coming up from the Leadville side, because the switchbacks are a hazard if you're going down.
I wish I could even just ride along through one of these trails one day!
I really enjoy your videos, however, being awful nice to that Ford, it can take more than that, unless that camper really is a hindrance. If I was closer I would definitely try for the Easter Eggs. My ride is a 2020 F350 Tremor 6.7. Doesn't the F250 have the off road gauges to see slope and side angle?
IMO as a person who has hunted Moose....it aint scared of nothing except anything bigger than it so your perfectly safe in your giant Ford. Just don't get out and if its a cow with a calf all bets are off and you desevere to get killed or hurt for approaching it.
You guys should do Barbour fork, it's s quick/decent trail
The tires on the FORD look like Falken Wildpeak AT3W not TOYO's
Wow nice camera work!
Great video. Enjoyed it.
Amazing fun video as always, but you guys need to step up your game on the in-cab video quality, just a bit.
I would love to see you take the camper off the F250 and do a gas mileage test empty, then load it up for the Ike Gauntlet, the tow mileage loop with it. Really interested to see how the lift and tires affect it.
It would also be cool to see it do some trails without the camper. Andre’ you can still have snacks with an ice chest, and a camp chair.
Why not install front camera? Even a go pro or a Sony action cam and monitor with phone..
Do you miss not having the trail control software in the Tremor?
4x4? check. Crazy expensive rigs? check 85 psi in our off-road tires? check
Great video thank you!
SUPER TREMOR DON'T CARE (thanks Nathan). This F250 reminds me of the song The Mighty 142 by Irish trucker band, Triaxel. The chorus goes, " At the foot of some steep mountain, you simply sink the shoe, and you thank the Lord for Scania and the Mighty 142." Check it out sometime Guys. Absolutely loved the water crossings.
Just wanted to correct you Andre, you said you have the Toyo AT3 tires of the F250, when all of the video i see you have Falken AT3W
That was good entertainment,..wish I could travel up there, and try to find that cache,..those RIDGE wallets are great,.I use mine all the time, sure saves fumbling around for for your money and or cards when needed.
If that little camper really feels top heavy on side slopes you might want to revisit your suspension setup. My truck camper feels a little top heavy on my softly sprung Dodge but rock solid on my older and stiffer Ford.
Min 15:16 ... Very nice and healthful ideea! 👍💪👌
When do we get the full Gladiator diesel review?
Listening to Andre complain about rubbing a tree, or how big his truck is, gets so old I can't even finish these videos. We get it. It's a big olllllll truck. We are all so impressed. You guys are hardly testing that truck. I used to love the videos, but a video with you two just cb ing back and forth, with nothing interesting to say, is just not good. Im not trying to hate, just thought I would give some feedback.
How would you suggest they test it? And do you think a new Tremor would do better or be better equipped to do more trails?
@@jeremyhaimes2613 Maybe more truck and less inside the cab boring conversations. When a tiny leaf is hanging in the road, smash it. Push it to its limits. Take it over some rough terrain, take it through some mud, get it stuck, see what it takes to get it out. See what the truck can actually do, not just what trails it "fits down". Maybe I'm misinterpreting this series. If its an overland truck put it in a situation you might find yourself in and have no choice to go through. Anyways not trying to hate to much, just feedback. It's an impressive truck that has yet to impress.
Georgia pass goes from Breckenridge to Jefferson.
would a stock overland gladiator have any trouble making it up there without any damage?
So, why are y'all not camping in these rigs?
A very valid question...
The F250 wins hands down because it's a huge beast on all terrains and the Jeep is smaller on mud terrains. Apart from the camper hitting trees the Super Tremor didn't put a foot wrong.
Love you guys,can you do 3500 chassis cabs..would love to hear your thoughts!! Thank you TFL!!!!
Andre, I wheel in a 3/4 ton Suburban. I feel your pain.
When you guys end this series, I will miss the F250 the most.
Well André, I’ve never given a damn about screwing up bodywork, perhaps I should drive !
Agreed. If you’re afraid to scratch it up, stay in town.
These and the RAM 2500 and 3500 are the only American pickups you can still get with an SFA. The only such SUV is the Wrangler.
Time for some more difficult/challenging trails. I don’t think the Gladiator has been tested at all...has the winch ever been used for recovery?
What about the other rutted out sections, I really wanted to see that 250 down in them.
Put a TFLTruck wrap on the f250 so you scratch the wrap not the paint.
I glimpsed the “SLOW! (Pas print)” sign and thought it was cautioning about bear 🐻. Had to go back and pause it.
Cool moose!
Andre said the F250 is rolling on Toyo's but they are Wildpeak's
Those tires are not the toyo open country
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