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Taking scope creep to an entirely new level! "Lets just add another game into the game" haha, I mean, Its cool n all, but I hope you've thought this through!
Hahaha true 😂 but to be fair, this actually creates less work for us overall. We were already planning a castle zone but now, the art is already there, the meachics, we already have the code for, the sorry we have a foundation in place. Yes we're merging games but it's a net reduction in workload by sharing assets and such! So fingers crossed it ends up being less work overall 😄
Thanks! I'm excited to see it all come together to be fair! Just gotta get play testing as soon as possible! I'm so hyped to play your game as well! Love me some factory builders!
For the Celestial form, you could have different stages of attacks locked behind different points on the tree. Ex. basic attacks first, first unlocks next, then all abilities. Having this tied to multiple points in the tree system would also make another layer of stategy for the player (as well as "putting it on the grid").
just became a Patreon supporter the other day! love the game so far and it has inspired me a lot in my own game dev journey. i'd love to see you elaborate on things like your lighting script for the edges of your tile set and how you layout your scenes. keep it up!
Few notes ( One dev' to another) in hopes to give constructive feedback : - If I can combat in the Starlight form, I am going to scum that so hard and never use my normal form if it saves damage/resources. I'd make it explode with a later ability on exit like you said, and survive an explode to explode twice as a second tier. Maybe explode into 5 or 8 balls of light that are homing missiles instead. or explode into lantern lights to illuminate an area for a bit that is dark. - You mentioned the (blue) Light of Avalina, Why not have that be a thing for the starlight-form exclusively? Seems themed to have a light-of-truth vibe. - have you thought of starlight-form ffor outside, and shadow-form (like the knight) for inside areas? You could end up later having to use all 3 near end game for some crazy puzzling. (Majora's mask did this, now that I think of it with statues in a way) - I would also give the shadow an attack option that is melee, and a starlight attack that is ranged, if they got combat abilities, so they have different tones. (That pretty reaper looking attack would be a good shadow one, though I would aim for attacks the main character can't do, because who doesn't love a good bit of scope creep? XD - Also very nice ad plug. That was a very natural transition and a well fitted call to action choice. I am going to go see if I can wishlist this, I hope to see this released (when it's ready). Have Fun
So we have the astral form which are connected to celestials. In order to have each zone have its unique mechanic, you could bond with unique bounded spirits of each zone to shift your astral form into a biome version with its own abilities. Perhaps their is a special side quest to free the bounded spirits so that you can use htier biome astral forms anywhere.
ooooo thats a really interesting idea! Or at least having the "talents" for this astral ability be provided by characters in each zone. This is food for thought!
possible interesting idea that i will theoretically explain properly: when in celestial form, attacks are slightly more powerful, but using those attacks either starts a timer and at the end of the timer you are forced out of celestial form. exiting celestial form after attacking would enforce a cooldown, maybe longer or shorter depending on how many attacks you did. could also work with like a "quota" where if you do too many attacks it kicks you out the same way could also work with upgrades by doing more damage while in celestial form or you get more time or attacks before being kicked out of it, plus maybe some unique changes to some abilities when used in celestial form not sure if this would work, just kinda thought of it
Very similar to Hollow Knight but I do really like the idea of expending some kind of resource in order to use abilities in this form! Like a LOT! Definitely something to consider! Potentially even a case of as soon as ou take damage youre forced out of the form so its a kind of glass cannon kinda ability... but also need to make sure you protect your physical form too as you do leave that behind which make sit a good risk vs reward kind of ability
Even if people slow down and the views aren’t amazing just keep it up, no one’s opinion matters other than your own and one’s trying to help improve you
I'm always gonna keep going! We always take on any form of critisim good or bad as in the end we'll end up with a better game for it! Thanks for the support♥️
Hey I'm a brand new subscriber so I don't know much about the game yet, but I really like the idea of the astral form shedding light so you need it for puzzles in dark areas.
Fantastic to see you return to your project! How are you coping with combining the two games? I'd imagine it'd increase the scope which was something you mentioned struggling with before.
It was surprisingly easier that I expected. The code and such id written for the Shattered Knight's mechanics worked more or less out of the box when transferring it though which helps. A lot has also changed in my personal life that means I'm now able to actually work on the game more and more consistently too so it has allowed us to broaden the scope. Its one of those things were, since taking the time and working on my skill-set what originally would have take me months I can now do in weeks. So even though the scope is larger, its easier to attain if that makes sense. Im still willing to make cuts however where nessisary, were keeping options open :)
I personally feel that having the character still standing there when you are in a different form feels weird and that perhaps, similarly to when amber turns into a shadow thingy to do her down slam attack thing, the character turns into the different form rather than projecting it, as for whether the player should return to the initial spot upon ending this state... I say honestly no, I think it would be cool to turn into a shadow and just meld past a door, rather than casting your shadow past a door to open it from the other side.
Astral form maybe keeps attacks but can only attack astral or shadow like enemies which base form cannot… This if implemented could also lend itself to puzzle solving
Game looks and sounds dope. The thing that mostly bothers me is the way the astral form looks. It's so bright that it feels extremely out of place. I'd advise either toning it down bit, or substituting it for something else. A dark silhouette that has stars shining in it, akin to the giant spirit in Princess Mononoke, would fit thematically for example. Anyways, best of luck!
Thank you so much! The current way it looks is PURELY placeholder, there will be a few extra things that go long with this ability and how it functions to spice it up a bit! We just haven't had time to make the specific assets yet is all 😉
Ooooooooooooooo devlooooooooooooogggg aaaaaaaaaaaa Idk but I feel like lacking your combat in the Celestial mode or whatever it is called would be better ig. Also man you've got *brilliant* ideas (sponsor reference lol). And it seems like Amber's Tale has got a really far way to go, ie it's got a REALLY big potential. Gud lukh on ya journeh! Hope you lot get to great places. Peace!
hahaha on the nose with those puns xD Yeah were defiantly a long way form it being close to complete but i feel like its in a fun and interesting spot where we can really explore a lot of options! Peace my friend!
could a skill tree where you get your skills howestever you want really be more satisfying than beating a boss or puzzle and seeing that altar with the next power up and then thinking "now i can finally get to that place!" and stuff? to me thats the hottest point of every metroidvania and the reason to play them. dont see what this is supposed to add to the player experience.
That is very true and that is something we still really want to keep hold of! And we believe this method although a bit unconventional actually provides that same feeling but with a little more empowerment! As you explore you'll still discover multiple places you cannot yet explore and different paths you cannot yet take. Just instead of being given a specific power that linearly unlocks a selection of those pathways you have the power to unlock the pathways in a order you choose. Let's say you discover a cave entrance that is too hight to jump and a little later a ledge that is just too far to jump over. When you defeat the boss you have the choice as to where you want to explore next. If you want to explore the cave then choose to unlock the wall jump and if you want to cross that ledge then unlock the dash. Whereas typically that decision is not yours to make. You will still ultimately visit everywhere but we want to give you the freedom to do it in an order you choose! Hope this makes sense ♥️
My brother in Christ, please write the name of your game on the video’s title, it looks awesome and I want to try it but I’m dumb and the first thing I thought was “weird that they chose to call it Metroidvania”
Hey there, we're not currently looking for any additional work at the moment but if we are at any point we will be posting it on our discord channel so that's a great place to find out.. ♥️
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Never quit bro, keep persevering. God bless.
Thank you, I will
Love the new video aesthetic! Ahhh we have MISSEEEDDDD AMBER! 🤩
hehe thanks! GUESS WHOS BACK! AMBERS BACK
I’m really glad to see your still working on this game
The new ability reminds of that ability in Crypt custodian
@@ThatDwag69 exactly what I was thinking
Thanks Relyea! The break was needed but things are now in a place to truly commit to it! 😄
Loving the new abilities and I cant wait to see more!
Looking forward to seeing where you take the game next!!
Best of luck!
Thanks Tsea! Were all SUPER excited too with the new direction! Fingers crossed we can keep it up!
Taking scope creep to an entirely new level! "Lets just add another game into the game" haha, I mean, Its cool n all, but I hope you've thought this through!
Hahaha true 😂 but to be fair, this actually creates less work for us overall. We were already planning a castle zone but now, the art is already there, the meachics, we already have the code for, the sorry we have a foundation in place. Yes we're merging games but it's a net reduction in workload by sharing assets and such! So fingers crossed it ends up being less work overall 😄
Love that you're combining the games! Very cool (also congrats on the sponsor!)
Thanks! I'm excited to see it all come together to be fair! Just gotta get play testing as soon as possible! I'm so hyped to play your game as well! Love me some factory builders!
For the Celestial form, you could have different stages of attacks locked behind different points on the tree. Ex. basic attacks first, first unlocks next, then all abilities. Having this tied to multiple points in the tree system would also make another layer of stategy for the player (as well as "putting it on the grid").
just became a Patreon supporter the other day! love the game so far and it has inspired me a lot in my own game dev journey. i'd love to see you elaborate on things like your lighting script for the edges of your tile set and how you layout your scenes. keep it up!
Oh wow thank you so much! That's something I can do for sure! Maybe when I work on the next scene I'll talk though my process! 😄♥️
FINALLY! A new devlog!
Better late than never eh haha
I LOVE that the shattered knight will become a part of ambers tale!
YAY! Were really excited to implement them as well! It should be fun if not anything else!
The shadow abilitiy is quite cool, I dont think Ive seen that in a metroidvania before
Thanks! Were really happy with how it is starting to come together!
We're SO back
Let's goooooooo! And this time we've hit the grind running!
Definitely getting this game. Looks fantastic
Thank you! ♥️
Few notes ( One dev' to another) in hopes to give constructive feedback :
- If I can combat in the Starlight form, I am going to scum that so hard and never use my normal form if it saves damage/resources. I'd make it explode with a later ability on exit like you said, and survive an explode to explode twice as a second tier. Maybe explode into 5 or 8 balls of light that are homing missiles instead. or explode into lantern lights to illuminate an area for a bit that is dark.
- You mentioned the (blue) Light of Avalina, Why not have that be a thing for the starlight-form exclusively? Seems themed to have a light-of-truth vibe.
- have you thought of starlight-form ffor outside, and shadow-form (like the knight) for inside areas? You could end up later having to use all 3 near end game for some crazy puzzling. (Majora's mask did this, now that I think of it with statues in a way)
- I would also give the shadow an attack option that is melee, and a starlight attack that is ranged, if they got combat abilities, so they have different tones. (That pretty reaper looking attack would be a good shadow one, though I would aim for attacks the main character can't do, because who doesn't love a good bit of scope creep? XD
- Also very nice ad plug. That was a very natural transition and a well fitted call to action choice.
I am going to go see if I can wishlist this, I hope to see this released (when it's ready). Have Fun
So we have the astral form which are connected to celestials. In order to have each zone have its unique mechanic, you could bond with unique bounded spirits of each zone to shift your astral form into a biome version with its own abilities. Perhaps their is a special side quest to free the bounded spirits so that you can use htier biome astral forms anywhere.
ooooo thats a really interesting idea! Or at least having the "talents" for this astral ability be provided by characters in each zone. This is food for thought!
possible interesting idea that i will theoretically explain properly:
when in celestial form, attacks are slightly more powerful, but using those attacks either starts a timer and at the end of the timer you are forced out of celestial form. exiting celestial form after attacking would enforce a cooldown, maybe longer or shorter depending on how many attacks you did. could also work with like a "quota" where if you do too many attacks it kicks you out the same way
could also work with upgrades by doing more damage while in celestial form or you get more time or attacks before being kicked out of it, plus maybe some unique changes to some abilities when used in celestial form
not sure if this would work, just kinda thought of it
Very similar to Hollow Knight but I do really like the idea of expending some kind of resource in order to use abilities in this form! Like a LOT! Definitely something to consider! Potentially even a case of as soon as ou take damage youre forced out of the form so its a kind of glass cannon kinda ability... but also need to make sure you protect your physical form too as you do leave that behind which make sit a good risk vs reward kind of ability
Oh the new ability reminds of that ability in Crypt Custodian
I've not actually played that but I'll put it in the list!
@@LazyTeaStudios yeah it's a great metreoidvania
Even if people slow down and the views aren’t amazing just keep it up, no one’s opinion matters other than your own and one’s trying to help improve you
I'm always gonna keep going! We always take on any form of critisim good or bad as in the end we'll end up with a better game for it! Thanks for the support♥️
Hey I'm a brand new subscriber so I don't know much about the game yet, but I really like the idea of the astral form shedding light so you need it for puzzles in dark areas.
Nice vid as always.
Thank you very much!!
Yayyyy new devlog
WOO! the stress was real getting this one out on time haha
Fantastic to see you return to your project! How are you coping with combining the two games? I'd imagine it'd increase the scope which was something you mentioned struggling with before.
It was surprisingly easier that I expected. The code and such id written for the Shattered Knight's mechanics worked more or less out of the box when transferring it though which helps. A lot has also changed in my personal life that means I'm now able to actually work on the game more and more consistently too so it has allowed us to broaden the scope. Its one of those things were, since taking the time and working on my skill-set what originally would have take me months I can now do in weeks. So even though the scope is larger, its easier to attain if that makes sense. Im still willing to make cuts however where nessisary, were keeping options open :)
@@LazyTeaStudios Great to hear it is manageable. Good luck with it!
I personally feel that having the character still standing there when you are in a different form feels weird and that perhaps, similarly to when amber turns into a shadow thingy to do her down slam attack thing, the character turns into the different form rather than projecting it, as for whether the player should return to the initial spot upon ending this state... I say honestly no, I think it would be cool to turn into a shadow and just meld past a door, rather than casting your shadow past a door to open it from the other side.
Astral form maybe keeps attacks but can only attack astral or shadow like enemies which base form cannot… This if implemented could also lend itself to puzzle solving
Ooo that's interesting for sure! That would add a whole new dimension to combat for sure!
Game looks and sounds dope.
The thing that mostly bothers me is the way the astral form looks. It's so bright that it feels extremely out of place. I'd advise either toning it down bit, or substituting it for something else. A dark silhouette that has stars shining in it, akin to the giant spirit in Princess Mononoke, would fit thematically for example.
Anyways, best of luck!
Thank you so much! The current way it looks is PURELY placeholder, there will be a few extra things that go long with this ability and how it functions to spice it up a bit!
We just haven't had time to make the specific assets yet is all 😉
This game looks super interesting, hoping to see a switch release 🤞
Ayy thank you so much! Who knows! It's definitely something we would aspire for!
Ooooooooooooooo devlooooooooooooogggg aaaaaaaaaaaa
Idk but I feel like lacking your combat in the Celestial mode or whatever it is called would be better ig. Also man you've got *brilliant* ideas (sponsor reference lol). And it seems like Amber's Tale has got a really far way to go, ie it's got a REALLY big potential. Gud lukh on ya journeh! Hope you lot get to great places. Peace!
hahaha on the nose with those puns xD Yeah were defiantly a long way form it being close to complete but i feel like its in a fun and interesting spot where we can really explore a lot of options! Peace my friend!
could a skill tree where you get your skills howestever you want really be more satisfying than beating a boss or puzzle and seeing that altar with the next power up and then thinking "now i can finally get to that place!" and stuff? to me thats the hottest point of every metroidvania and the reason to play them. dont see what this is supposed to add to the player experience.
That is very true and that is something we still really want to keep hold of! And we believe this method although a bit unconventional actually provides that same feeling but with a little more empowerment! As you explore you'll still discover multiple places you cannot yet explore and different paths you cannot yet take. Just instead of being given a specific power that linearly unlocks a selection of those pathways you have the power to unlock the pathways in a order you choose. Let's say you discover a cave entrance that is too hight to jump and a little later a ledge that is just too far to jump over. When you defeat the boss you have the choice as to where you want to explore next. If you want to explore the cave then choose to unlock the wall jump and if you want to cross that ledge then unlock the dash. Whereas typically that decision is not yours to make. You will still ultimately visit everywhere but we want to give you the freedom to do it in an order you choose! Hope this makes sense ♥️
My brother in Christ, please write the name of your game on the video’s title, it looks awesome and I want to try it but I’m dumb and the first thing I thought was “weird that they chose to call it Metroidvania”
What is the name of this game tho???
Amber's Tale 😄
My name's Amber. I do gamedev stuff but haven't posted anything about it yet. I'm a software developer by trade. Can I help work on the game?
Hey there, we're not currently looking for any additional work at the moment but if we are at any point we will be posting it on our discord channel so that's a great place to find out.. ♥️
@@LazyTeaStudios omg thank you for being so awesome about it 😊
Game name?
Amber's Tale :)
Metroid game?!?! ME WANT NOW. GOOGLE PLAY NOW. I'm sorry I'm hungry for metroid
Haha were a little way off still but it's at least in the works 😂