DEI or not, whoever was selected would be incompetent anyway. There is not one single competent leader in the entire Biden admin. This is the most corrupt & incompetent administration in US history.
@@yrreteugarps2835 "Lieden" The only lie Biden told was to Wall Street when he said "nothing fundamental will change" and then he ended that Forever War the republicans deliberately lied us into so they could treat my brothers and sisters in arms as cannon fodder for no other reason than so Dick Cheney could get lucrative no-bid contracts making his company Haliburton fabulously rich. You're absolutely *fine* with the lies that cost ten thousand troops our lives. You're absolutely *fine* with two veterans killing ourselves *every single day* over your fucking lies.
I am in California. The US Forest Service and Fish and Wildlife have destroyed the environment over 30 years. I am and have been an active outdoorsman since childhood. I have witnessed and seen the devastation. More CalFire but no public accesses. Government Unions need to go away. In the 1960's and 70's we had 1/4 of the Firemen and Equipment. The forests were maintained using Honor Camp personnel and management. Today, they need fires to support their retirement.
I grew up in N. California in the 50's and 60's. Even spent 2 summers working for what is now Cal Fire. We had the Magalia inmate crews. They work with individual stations and districts to help clear and maintain the state forest lands. UU Forest Service would start projects to manage their forest lands then suddenly stop. Many of the forest fires we fought started on US FOREST LAND. Just look what the Topanga fire in southern cal. did in less than 2 weeks. Forest fires are not new to Cal. But without forest management it's just a waste of time and money.
It is looking a lot like the Sierra Club is running the Forest Service. The roadless initiatives have necessitated the reinstitution of mule teams to get firefighters to fires in a few days instead of motor vehicles and aircraft getting to fires in a few hours. When my dad was a national forest supervisor, he had a considerable amount of autonomy. Today the Departments of Agriculture (Forest Service) and Interior (BLM, National Park Service) appear to be mired in bureaucracy and politics. Meanwhile the forests are in poor condition, salvage logging is held up by lawsuits until the trees rot, public land timber sales (which mostly funded the Forest Service) are rarely happening, causing many sawmills to close. Meanwhile building material prices are crazy, and I see daily trainloads of Canadian lumber.
Retired from the Beaverhead-Deerlodge National Forest and you are 100% correct. The very well funded environment groups stand in the way of EVERY logging project and drag those projects out in court until they burn up in a wildfire.
They'll be happy to let it burn and blame it on Climate change. That's the game. Obama era rules made it so fire roads were reduced to 50" ( inch)wide paths. I'd say 50' (ft)wide clearance would make forest management more effective.
Exactly ! A dei hire to lead the forest service who knows nothing about the forest service who then turns things over to the sierra club while he sits back on his fat ass in D.C. ! The Democratic Party is bunch of grifters looking to pilfer the system .
@@ToddiGreat-le2qu When a land owner can't pay their taxes for usually years, the government sells the land to the highest bidder. It does not go to the government.
@@thomaswayneward there are lots of old houses places in NW Arkansas , smack dab in the middle of the National Forest taken during and after the Great Depression. You can trade land with the Forest Service but you cannot buy it. Doesn't that tell you they have all the money they need , they want all the land ? Can't print more land. Not trying to be argumentative but I know what I know. I'm talking history except for the trading but no buying from Forest Service , that still holds.
Biden (obama) democr@t commvn!st. Sorry about the spelling. I've learned that u. T. U. B. E. Won't let these 2 words appear together. They won't post it.
When you grow up as an inner city kid and never set foot in a national forest to fight fires, or work on a logging crew, or study agriculture or biology you get the "most qualified person" to run a major agency. What a disgrace we have created.
I just want to know when are they going to start listening to Trump and dampening the California forest to prevent forest fires. The part I am not sure is do we sweep the ground before or after the dampening.
Reformed. America's forests need to be managed wisely, not for corporate profits. Any remaining wilderness areas need to be preserved, which is about 3.5% of America's original forests.
It is one of the worst DEI, incompetent agencies out there. Where I live there are 4x as many rangers as 10 years ago and 90% are young, know-nothing wokies with one agenda... keep all humans out of all government owned natural areas.
The U.S. Forest Service had a several month long forest fire near Beaver, Utah a few years ago and made no effort to extinguish it until citizens nbegan showing up at the local Beaver Valley Clinic myself being one of them at 2 a.m. receiving oxygen until 10 a.m. Sen. Mike Lee was one of those to cover up this wretched incident that was a threat to so many lives. SRM
@@tazmod7272 Retired as soon as I was vested. Management was most likely just as happy as I was for leaving. Used their rules against them all the way.
@@stupadasol5911I'm "white" and have a degree in Forestry with an emphasis on Silviculture. I started working for the USFS in 1988. I was always passed over for permanent jobs that were given to minority hires that were less qualified. I worked as a seasonal worker for 14 years and finally left and changed careers. I wish I could have experienced some of the "white privilege " you mentioned.
Congress talks but they refuse to use their power to shut down agencies. Why? Because they like the agencies, gives the congress more power. The talking is just grandstanding.
TREES; Trees work for us. Properly cared for, they are valuable assets worth three times your initial investment. This is from the Forest Service website. So now we know. It’s always about capital gains. 🥸
My dad was a Forest Ranger for 36 years. He was on the Manti Lasal for 10 years. At 16 I worked at Utah Pine and milling. At 28, I was a process engineer for Weyerhaeuser Co. You cannot manage forests from Washington DC. You are dealing with mother nature and private business in a free country. Boots on the ground in a combat zone requires knowledge and experience in the military. Same with managing forests in the USA. Iguana Dave
@@rectorkirk1158Raw timber cannot be exported from USFS land. It has to at least be processed into cants before it can be exported. The USFS when I worked for them had a clause in the timber sale contract that mandated the USFS to follow the laws of the State of Washington.
@@daphnekivinen9482 Timber cannot be exported from federal lands. Timber cannot be exported from State of Washington trust lands (managed by the WA Department of 'Natural Resources) as well
Growing up in a concrete jungle never having set foot in the woods somehow in our screwed up world gets you the top job. I would be discouraged if I was a grunt working in the USFS.
The more land they grab up the less anyone can buy . This drives up the cost of land . You need to send some people back or release the land for sale to the public .
This wilderness, or no human zones are part of agenda 2030 where 75 percent of all US land mass will be made off limits except to limited government officials.
What they also did in the 70s wilderness act is make sure most of the existing gold mines were put into wilderness areas to prevent anyone from mining the gold.
@@greybone777agenda 2020 and2030 thru the UN both signed on to by daddy Bush and every president since has followed suit. This agenda calls for wilderness corridors that consume 75 percent of all US property to be human free and off limits to everyone except government officials as deemed necessary.
Time after time these senior bureaucrats appear before congress, they are evasive, uninformed or simply stonewall the questioner. I don’t understand why congress continues funding these agencies. Faced with a near zero budget, maybe these folks could answer some simple questions.
That would also apply to most of he citizens. Case in point the genius in the Turks and Caicos just sentenced to 10yrs for having ammunition in his luggage. Sorry but ii doesn't take a PHD to thoroughly search your luggage before packing. When you miss a handful of metallic cartridges in the process you deserve the punishment the law calls for. But everyone seems to think the fella deserves a break?
It is the same everywhere in the US, the DC government wants to shut out United States citizens from US government controlled land. Cut out access, cut out campgrounds, cut out trails. Most of the trails in the Teton National Park were built by private companies a hundred years ago; the PS has not built a new trail anywhere in the park, but they have shut down many trails or allowed them to deteriorate to the point they are unusable. At the same time employee housing and offices have been built everywhere in the park. A paved bicycle trail was built next to a highway for a few miles, but again that corals people together in a small area.
Do you remember the Yellowstone fire (circa 1988)? That was devastating simply because of the US Parks Service "hands off" policy. This USFS CLOWN wants to do the same to our National Forests...
This guy couldn’t find his way out of petting zoo much less a national forest. The forest service thinks that by bulldozing fire roads then there won’t be a fire.
I live in SC and love the Forrest service where I live. I reside In the National Forrest. These guys and gals are awesome. They are always doing control burns!
The most common uses of property taken by the federal government in eminent domain have been for roads, government buildings and public utilities. Many railroads were given the right of eminent domain to obtain land or easements in order to build and connect rail networks. In the mid-20th century, a new application of eminent domain was pioneered, in which the government could take the property and transfer it to a private third party for redevelopment. This was initially done only to a property that has been deemed "blighted" or a "development impediment", on the principle that such properties had a negative impact upon surrounding property owners, but was later expanded to allow the taking of any private property when the new third-party owner could develop the property in such a way as to bring in increased tax revenues to the government. Let that last sentence sink in. Greed. Gov, for the Gov, by the Gov. This should be outlawed.
well don Sen. Lee. There will never be a final agreement with the "environmentalist" on Wilderness. They will continue to attempt to gain more acres of National Forest and Public Lands into the Wilderness System.
Great question! I wrote The Senator years ago asking why Forrestry road gates were being closed so soon before winter. Was as if the decision was being made at a desk 2000 miles away. Great to see this being discussed !
When I first went to college I studied forestry. I was a child of the country, fields and forests. Later it was announced to us ; that "if you weren't one of the inner cities children that got summer programs for nature provided by the government and USFS then you were not going to be a forest ranger. You can get a job helping corporations get around government regulations." So how did that work out?
He said dosn't know about the fire reduction aspect.. uh Moore began his career 1978 with the Natural Resources Conservation Service in North Dakota.[2] He eventually joined the United States Forest Service in 1981. He has held various positions in the agency, including regional forester for the Eastern Region in Wisconsin and forest supervisor for Mark Twain National Forest in Missouri. Most recently, Moore served as the Pacific Southwestern regional forester, managing 18 national forests in California spanning 20 million acres, as well as state and private forestry programs in Hawaii and the Pacific Islands.[3] Moore has been an advocate for utilizing vegetation treatment methods to reduce the risk of wildfire, rather than relying solely on logging. He believes that this approach can effectively decrease wildfire risk while preserving the natural beauty and ecological integrity of the forest. In addition to his advocacy of vegetation treatment, Moore has also focused on improving the pay and working conditions for firefighters, as well as increasing capacity and resources through partnerships with other agencies and organizations.[4
This land was my land this land was your land from California to the New York islands,from the Redwood forests to the Gulf stream waters... This land was made for you and me!
I hate that all the public land is restricted so much. I would like to be able to camp in the woods not in a campground around a bunch of campers and tents and paved roads.
I've spent decades in the outdoors particularly the forests of the Pacific NW. Never once have I seen an African functioning as an employee with the USFS, the state, or the county. Not once. But here we have an African calling the shots from the top. Something doesn't add up. Was this guy the absolutely most talented and qualified person to run this agency? I highly doubt it but have a strong belief he was selected under Affirmative Action because of his ethnic background regardless of qualifications. I would like to see his work history which shows that he, as a youth, fought fires, or patrolled wilderness areas, or worked with logging companies. I hope someday we get back to a merit based system so the best are rewarded.
Some people will never be satisfied until every last square yard of old growth forest is turned into pulp wood and 2x4’s, or paved over for Costcos and McDonalds. There is already more than enough forestry land for our needs. Mother Nature doesn’t need human help to maintain wilderness.
USFS takes control of land areas.... 9th circuit court rules against all logging operations in that area....forest dies from lack of logging.....fires ravage that land areas. Cycle starts over in another area, cycle repeats, same result. No logging (which is proper forest management) = no forest's. There CAN NOT be healthy, productive forest's with the federal government in control. ALL forest management MUST be the sole jurisdiction of the states and counties that those lands are within. There is no Constitutional authority for justifying the existence of the USFS, BLM or USDA or their having jurisdiction and authority over the States....period.
The Forest Service provides what it's willing to do in multiple-choice proposals for the public, or non-forest service groups, for comments only after the choices are selected by the Forest Service without outside input.
This is not the fault of the bureaucrat. The fault lies with the Congress. The low-electoral count flyover states are at the mercy of the high-electoral count states. We are governed by a system unfettered by the Constitution. The people with an unreasonable passion for bugs and bunnies from the coasts can control the lands in the heartland where the consequence is borne by the people in the heartland. The Federal Government should not own any land outside of post offices, post roads, the District of Columbia, and lands purchased by the consent of the state legislatures for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings. You cannot find parklands, wilderness areas, forests, wildlife refuges, and nature preserves in the Constitution. That which is not enumerated is proscribed. Rudyard warned us, "That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld, you never get rid of the Dane."
This black guy hasn't been in the woods a day of his life... Lmfao. Maybe he walked thru a park in the city a couple times... Joe Biden sure knows how to pick em. Best and brightest.....
Well representative don’t you see our salaries, livelihoods and lifestyles must come first in order to budget appropriations if any money gets to the actual service we provide is way way way down the list. We have perpetual pay increases and staff hirings to complete each year, beyond that we don’t have time for anything else.
No, he's not incompetent as some are commenting here. He is just following the orders of the wrong people. Namely those that are determined to "fundamentally transform the United States" and not in a Constitutional way! We all need to stop thinking and mouthing that these people are incompetent and start realizing and spreading the truth of the mater.
He took the bribes. And fet about 400 k a year. A free air plane to use, free vehichles, plus all the lobbying time in dc he wants to use. Lol govenment lobbying elected officials
Thank you Senator Lee for questioning one of the most questionable federal institutions in history. I have not researched this for myself but was given to understand that the creation of the U.S.F.S. was actually voted down twice by the people and then illegally snuck in the back door through miss appropriated funds. Does anyone have any information on this?
My dad worked for the forest service for many decades, and he was one of the very few people who actually gave a damn about doing things the way they were supposed to be done. In return the higher ups tried to get him to quit or get him fired. It was a complete bureaucratic shit show back then, and post Covid it’s gotten much worse. The whole damn government is like that, and it’s never going to change unless it’s punished by the people. I won’t hold my breath for that to happen.
Not so many years ago the Forest Service was an outstanding organization. Here in Washington State, both the State Department of Natural Resources and the US Forrest Service did outstanding jobs of designating timberlands for harvest, maintaining roads for land maintenance and fire control, and providing public accessibility to our breathtaking natural environments. Now they've become just like the National Park Service, with regulation enforcers acting as if the land is theirs and their job is to keep the public out of public lands. Roads are now gated off. Public areas are closed except for specific hours on specific days. Roads are not maintained. The Forest Service's job is to MANAGE public resources, not designate areas as "wilderness" or "no road" areas. And bureaucrats in DC can have no idea what constitutes good land management by looking at Satellite imagery on Google Earth! Counties and States should be the primary consultants on any policy.
I'd be happy if the FS would enforce basic laws, such as: cracking down on people who are semi-squatting on public forest service lands by parking and LEAVING their RVs on primitive campsites...
You'd be better off meeting a responsible employee off site for coffee to get answers to you questions. Government officials must go to leftwing schools to learn how to not answer questions.
Another incompetent DEI hire.
My words exactly. I'll add in another Lieden appointee though. We're being taken care of so well by this regime (sarcasm meant)
DEI or not, whoever was selected would be incompetent anyway. There is not one single competent leader in the entire Biden admin. This is the most corrupt & incompetent administration in US history.
"Will let you know how that go", dear heavens. Not even up to DEI standards.
@@yrreteugarps2835 "Lieden"
The only lie Biden told was to Wall Street when he said "nothing fundamental will change" and then he ended that Forever War the republicans deliberately lied us into so they could treat my brothers and sisters in arms as cannon fodder for no other reason than so Dick Cheney could get lucrative no-bid contracts making his company Haliburton fabulously rich. You're absolutely *fine* with the lies that cost ten thousand troops our lives. You're absolutely *fine* with two veterans killing ourselves *every single day* over your fucking lies.
He's a textbook incompetent
I am in California. The US Forest Service and Fish and Wildlife have destroyed the environment over 30 years. I am and have been an active outdoorsman since childhood. I have witnessed and seen the devastation. More CalFire but no public accesses. Government Unions need to go away. In the 1960's and 70's we had 1/4 of the Firemen and Equipment. The forests were maintained using Honor Camp personnel and management. Today, they need fires to support their retirement.
Same in Wa. Usfs and state destroyed accsess. Unless you pay the rockymt elk foundation or ducks unlimited.
Nailed it!
Newscum's California
I grew up in N. California in the 50's and 60's. Even spent 2 summers working for what is now Cal Fire. We had the Magalia inmate crews. They work with individual stations and districts to help clear and maintain the state forest lands. UU Forest Service would start projects to manage their forest lands then suddenly stop. Many of the forest fires we fought started on US FOREST LAND. Just look what the Topanga fire in southern cal. did in less than 2 weeks. Forest fires are not new to Cal. But without forest management it's just a waste of time and money.
The entire western seaboard is a great example of how bad the U.S forest service is....
Just answer the question
It is looking a lot like the Sierra Club is running the Forest Service. The roadless initiatives have necessitated the reinstitution of mule teams to get firefighters to fires in a few days instead of motor vehicles and aircraft getting to fires in a few hours. When my dad was a national forest supervisor, he had a considerable amount of autonomy. Today the Departments of Agriculture (Forest Service) and Interior (BLM, National Park Service) appear to be mired in bureaucracy and politics. Meanwhile the forests are in poor condition, salvage logging is held up by lawsuits until the trees rot, public land timber sales (which mostly funded the Forest Service) are rarely happening, causing many sawmills to close. Meanwhile building material prices are crazy, and I see daily trainloads of Canadian lumber.
Retired from the Beaverhead-Deerlodge National Forest and you are 100% correct. The very well funded environment groups stand in the way of EVERY logging project and drag those projects out in court until they burn up in a wildfire.
I'm buying lumber from Menards that came from Sweden!
They'll be happy to let it burn and blame it on Climate change. That's the game. Obama era rules made it so fire roads were reduced to 50" ( inch)wide paths. I'd say 50' (ft)wide clearance would make forest management more effective.
Exactly ! A dei hire to lead the forest service who knows nothing about the forest service who then turns things over to the sierra club while he sits back on his fat ass in D.C. ! The Democratic Party is bunch of grifters looking to pilfer the system .
Where does the US Constitution state the Federal government can own land?
Most of this happened after Lincolns war on the South. The DC government became all powerful and no one dared to confront them.
And during the depression , when people couldn't pay their taxes. Just the government being government
@@ToddiGreat-le2qu When a land owner can't pay their taxes for usually years, the government sells the land to the highest bidder. It does not go to the government.
@@thomaswayneward Not sure what gives government the right to do this.
@@thomaswayneward there are lots of old houses places in NW Arkansas , smack dab in the middle of the National Forest taken during and after the Great Depression. You can trade land with the Forest Service but you cannot buy it. Doesn't that tell you they have all the money they need , they want all the land ? Can't print more land. Not trying to be argumentative but I know what I know. I'm talking history except for the trading but no buying from Forest Service , that still holds.
Fire him. If the Forest service can’t do it’s job get rid of the agency
A disgraceful bureaucrat who doesn't deserve to be chief of the agency
Adding in disrespectful
That’s what Lee is . And he is an election denier .
Isn't that special, the director is illiterate, can't even speak properly. Will never answer a question, always has an excuse.
Racist!
DEI Hire
Biden (obama) democr@t commvn!st.
Sorry about the spelling. I've learned that u. T. U. B. E. Won't let these 2 words appear together. They won't post it.
He studied under Harris.
When you grow up as an inner city kid and never set foot in a national forest to fight fires, or work on a logging crew, or study agriculture or biology you get the "most qualified person" to run a major agency. What a disgrace we have created.
Government for the government by the government.
FJB
Alphabet mafia elitists
I just want to know when are they going to start listening to Trump and dampening the California forest to prevent forest fires. The part I am not sure is do we sweep the ground before or after the dampening.
Forest service needed to be dismantled.
One of many….
Reformed. America's forests need to be managed wisely, not for corporate profits. Any remaining wilderness areas need to be preserved, which is about 3.5% of America's original forests.
It is one of the worst DEI, incompetent agencies out there. Where I live there are 4x as many rangers as 10 years ago and 90% are young, know-nothing wokies with one agenda... keep all humans out of all government owned natural areas.
The U.S. Forest Service had a several month long forest fire near Beaver, Utah a few years ago and made no effort to extinguish it until citizens nbegan showing up at the local Beaver Valley Clinic myself being one of them at 2 a.m. receiving oxygen until 10 a.m. Sen. Mike Lee was one of those to cover up this wretched incident that was a threat to so many lives. SRM
~ You guys would be all stung in the bung as soon as someone says “defund the police”.. 🤣🤣🤣
I have friends that left the National Forest Service early because they got tired of the woke policies.
Count me as a friend. Left in the late 90's. White privilege stagnated my career in the FS. Went private where merit determines your standing.
@@stupadasol5911 : So, you must of been around during the R.I.F. (Reduction In Force) days. What a joke.
@@tazmod7272 Retired as soon as I was vested. Management was most likely just as happy as I was for leaving. Used their rules against them all the way.
@@stupadasol5911I'm "white" and have a degree in Forestry with an emphasis on Silviculture. I started working for the USFS in 1988. I was always passed over for permanent jobs that were given to minority hires that were less qualified. I worked as a seasonal worker for 14 years and finally left and changed careers.
I wish I could have experienced some of the "white privilege " you mentioned.
@@bruceb9515 My white privilege allowed me to train the applicant hired for promotions I also applied for.
Congress talks but they refuse to use their power to shut down agencies. Why? Because they like the agencies, gives the congress more power. The talking is just grandstanding.
Recommended wilderness = land grabbing
“No human activity”zones.
Grow up Mary.
I have spent decades in multiple designated wildernesses hunting, fishing, backpacking and climbing.
Stick to stuff you know, if any.
After watching some of Bidens appointments. First, we should find out if he knows what a tree is.
TREES; Trees work for us. Properly cared for, they are valuable assets worth three times your initial investment.
This is from the Forest Service website. So now we know. It’s always about capital gains. 🥸
They were bipartisan approved so what's to look at? The genius Republican senators that helped vote them through have your best interests at heart.
"Trees? Dat's dem, uh, green thingies, right?"
First off, we have to ask the tree if they identify as a tree or some other object.
“I can’t provide a definition of tree. A tree is what Congress tells me a tree is.”
It's all by design, the green new deal.
Shack. Agenda xyz.
Yup ! A dei hire . All of Biden’s appointments are grifters just looking to game the system.
Senator Lee is incredibly bright and patriotic.
Karen.
America and Utah cannot afford to lose Senator Moke Lee.
Mike Lee 😔
@@cliffordbaxter1992
I would love to lose that little creep.
DEI!!!! WTF does HE KNOW about FORREST MANAGEMENT????
Nope. He is there to do what he is told, like all the slaves on the Marxist Democrat plantation.
He knows dat he be a minority and a victim?
Nothing. He can't even tell you what a tree is!
My dad was a Forest Ranger for 36 years. He was on the Manti Lasal for 10 years. At 16 I worked at Utah Pine and milling. At 28, I was a process engineer for Weyerhaeuser Co.
You cannot manage forests from Washington DC. You are dealing with mother nature and private business in a free country. Boots on the ground in a combat zone requires knowledge and experience in the military. Same with managing forests in the USA.
Iguana Dave
How many acres of over harvested land weyerhauser trade to the usfs. Of prime timber to export.
@@rectorkirk1158Raw timber cannot be exported from USFS land. It has to at least be processed into cants before it can be exported. The USFS when I worked for them had a clause in the timber sale contract that mandated the USFS to follow the laws of the State of Washington.
@@daphnekivinen9482 Timber cannot be exported from federal lands. Timber cannot be exported from State of Washington trust lands (managed by the WA Department of 'Natural Resources) as well
I know.
Growing up in a concrete jungle never having set foot in the woods somehow in our screwed up world gets you the top job. I would be discouraged if I was a grunt working in the USFS.
Senator Lee keep fighting for Utah!
Moore - DEI, double speak - THESE “official clowns” NEVER ANSWER QUESTION - just obfuscation!
This guy knows nothing about forestry.
Yeah, he got that position for being black.
He can't tell you what the definition of a tree is. Next thing we'll know is this guy is on the Supreme Court!
The more land they grab up the less anyone can buy . This drives up the cost of land . You need to send some people back or release the land for sale to the public .
This wilderness, or no human zones are part of agenda 2030 where 75 percent of all US land mass will be made off limits except to limited government officials.
What they also did in the 70s wilderness act is make sure most of the existing gold mines were put into wilderness areas to prevent anyone from mining the gold.
@@greybone777agenda 2020 and2030 thru the UN both signed on to by daddy Bush and every president since has followed suit. This agenda calls for wilderness corridors that consume 75 percent of all US property to be human free and off limits to everyone except government officials as deemed necessary.
More DEI hires!
I thought you guys weren't racist
“We’ll let you know how that go.”
unbelievable
Why wouldn't they? All we have to do is look at history in how the criminals in the federal government have dealt with the indigenous Americans
Time after time these senior bureaucrats appear before congress, they are evasive, uninformed or simply stonewall the questioner. I don’t understand why congress continues funding these agencies. Faced with a near zero budget, maybe these folks could answer some simple questions.
To discuss the very issue that you bringing up. We be happy to let you know how that go.
Congress enacted the Wilderness Study Act in Montana in 1977. A 5 year study that is ongoing to this day.
That's your gov
All government seems to somehow think it's exempt from the same laws the rest of us are expected to follow.
That would also apply to most of he citizens. Case in point the genius in the Turks and Caicos just sentenced to 10yrs for having ammunition in his luggage. Sorry but ii doesn't take a PHD to thoroughly search your luggage before packing. When you miss a handful of metallic cartridges in the process you deserve the punishment the law calls for. But everyone seems to think the fella deserves a break?
Didn’t
Earn
It
It is the same everywhere in the US, the DC government wants to shut out United States citizens from US government controlled land. Cut out access, cut out campgrounds, cut out trails. Most of the trails in the Teton National Park were built by private companies a hundred years ago; the PS has not built a new trail anywhere in the park, but they have shut down many trails or allowed them to deteriorate to the point they are unusable. At the same time employee housing and offices have been built everywhere in the park. A paved bicycle trail was built next to a highway for a few miles, but again that corals people together in a small area.
Did the same in usfs land in Wa and nps
National Forest Service as been going downhill for decades, zero timber management in Colorado.
Too much regulation of our every, including our lives and health!
Government sprawl needs to reduced not expanded.
What is it designed for?
Not for humans
Do you remember the Yellowstone fire (circa 1988)? That was devastating simply because of the US Parks Service "hands off" policy. This USFS CLOWN wants to do the same to our National Forests...
@@adamr4115 🛸👽👻🦖🧙♂️☠️
This guy couldn’t find his way out of petting zoo much less a national forest. The forest service thinks that by bulldozing fire roads then there won’t be a fire.
Because they don't live like we the people they are being paid for by other people/ countries
Isreal
Exactly.
@mr.v268 what a maroon.9
I live in SC and love the Forrest service where I live. I reside In the National Forrest. These guys and gals are awesome. They are always doing control burns!
The most common uses of property taken by the federal government in eminent domain have been for roads, government buildings and public utilities. Many railroads were given the right of eminent domain to obtain land or easements in order to build and connect rail networks. In the mid-20th century, a new application of eminent domain was pioneered, in which the government could take the property and transfer it to a private third party for redevelopment. This was initially done only to a property that has been deemed "blighted" or a "development impediment", on the principle that such properties had a negative impact upon surrounding property owners, but was later expanded to allow the taking of any private property when the new third-party owner could develop the property in such a way as to bring in increased tax revenues to the government. Let that last sentence sink in. Greed. Gov, for the Gov, by the Gov. This should be outlawed.
"Tribes are a sovereign nation"
Tribes consist of American citizens. They are Americans inside America.
They should listen to the "Star Bangled Banner", sung in Navajo. It's beyond beautiful!
Apparently the Poconos is a rain Forrest now
Glad you are asking the right questions.
I wonder if that bureaucrat just had an Ut-O moment? 😂😂😂
well don Sen. Lee. There will never be a final agreement with the "environmentalist" on Wilderness. They will continue to attempt to gain more acres of National Forest and Public Lands into the Wilderness System.
Great question! I wrote The Senator years ago asking why Forrestry road gates were being closed so soon before winter. Was as if the decision was being made at a desk 2000 miles away.
Great to see this being discussed !
Public land should be public access. If they want to block our access to the land then they should be forced to sell it.
Not answering questions is the biggest part of the resume.
Good work ❤
The forest service has mismanaged land for years. Thats the likely reason for so many fires.
When I first went to college I studied forestry. I was a child of the country, fields and forests. Later it was announced to us ; that "if you weren't one of the inner cities children that got summer programs for nature provided by the government and USFS then you were not going to be a forest ranger. You can get a job helping corporations get around government regulations." So how did that work out?
"C" big cash to be made
"c" small cash to be made
You're the man Mike! Keep pushing for Utah!
Thank you senator Lee for standing for real local input on this issue.
He said dosn't know about the fire reduction aspect.. uh
Moore began his career 1978 with the Natural Resources Conservation Service in North Dakota.[2] He eventually joined the United States Forest Service in 1981. He has held various positions in the agency, including regional forester for the Eastern Region in Wisconsin and forest supervisor for Mark Twain National Forest in Missouri. Most recently, Moore served as the Pacific Southwestern regional forester, managing 18 national forests in California spanning 20 million acres, as well as state and private forestry programs in Hawaii and the Pacific Islands.[3]
Moore has been an advocate for utilizing vegetation treatment methods to reduce the risk of wildfire, rather than relying solely on logging. He believes that this approach can effectively decrease wildfire risk while preserving the natural beauty and ecological integrity of the forest. In addition to his advocacy of vegetation treatment, Moore has also focused on improving the pay and working conditions for firefighters, as well as increasing capacity and resources through partnerships with other agencies and organizations.[4
what good is a forest to locals if they can not use it
WTF! Saying it out loud.
This land was my land this land was your land from California to the New York islands,from the Redwood forests to the Gulf stream waters...
This land was made for you and me!
Equity hire???
What an absolute disgrace 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙈🙈🙈
The proof is that all federal agencies are corrupt and bribed to do nothing except inhibit commerce.
Many years ago in my "feeding at the trough experience."
Is there ANY agency Chief who can answer a direct question without Editorializing or DOUBLE talking ✝️🇺🇸😡😡😡😡😡
No
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Affirmative Action……. OH Yeah, he’s got this…..NOT 🤪 !! Just enough grey matter to remain conscious and yet do exactly as he is told ! Perfect !!
I hate that all the public land is restricted so much. I would like to be able to camp in the woods not in a campground around a bunch of campers and tents and paved roads.
I've spent decades in the outdoors particularly the forests of the Pacific NW. Never once have I seen an African functioning as an employee with the USFS, the state, or the county. Not once. But here we have an African calling the shots from the top. Something doesn't add up. Was this guy the absolutely most talented and qualified person to run this agency? I highly doubt it but have a strong belief he was selected under Affirmative Action because of his ethnic background regardless of qualifications. I would like to see his work history which shows that he, as a youth, fought fires, or patrolled wilderness areas, or worked with logging companies. I hope someday we get back to a merit based system so the best are rewarded.
Some people will never be satisfied until every last square yard of old growth forest is turned into pulp wood and 2x4’s, or paved over for Costcos and McDonalds. There is already more than enough forestry land for our needs. Mother Nature doesn’t need human help to maintain wilderness.
USFS takes control of land areas.... 9th circuit court rules against all logging operations in that area....forest dies from lack of logging.....fires ravage that land areas. Cycle starts over in another area, cycle repeats, same result.
No logging (which is proper forest management) = no forest's.
There CAN NOT be healthy, productive forest's with the federal government in control. ALL forest management MUST be the sole jurisdiction of the states and counties that those lands are within. There is no Constitutional authority for justifying the existence of the USFS, BLM or USDA or their having jurisdiction and authority over the States....period.
DEI in action from a guy who has never even seen a stick.
Keep fighting for us Mr. Lee.
bless your hearts
Most of these federal bureaucrats seem look at states as hurdles or inconsequential entities that only hinder federal policy desires.
The Forest Service provides what it's willing to do in multiple-choice proposals for the public, or non-forest service groups, for comments only after the choices are selected by the Forest Service without outside input.
4:35 wow he really let that ripppp!
This is not the fault of the bureaucrat. The fault lies with the Congress. The low-electoral count flyover states are at the mercy of the high-electoral count states. We are governed by a system unfettered by the Constitution. The people with an unreasonable passion for bugs and bunnies from the coasts can control the lands in the heartland where the consequence is borne by the people in the heartland. The Federal Government should not own any land outside of post offices, post roads, the District of Columbia, and lands purchased by the consent of the state legislatures for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings. You cannot find parklands, wilderness areas, forests, wildlife refuges, and nature preserves in the Constitution. That which is not enumerated is proscribed. Rudyard warned us, "That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld, you never get rid of the Dane."
We will allow comments as long as the state and counties know we will in the end not follow them only what we want to do.
This black guy hasn't been in the woods a day of his life... Lmfao. Maybe he walked thru a park in the city a couple times... Joe Biden sure knows how to pick em. Best and brightest.....
Dei hire of course
I bet he still feels the lumber his houses are built from wasnt made from trees.
November cant come fast enough
And this is the best they’ve got!
Well representative don’t you see our salaries, livelihoods and lifestyles must come first in order to budget appropriations if any money gets to the actual service we provide is way way way down the list. We have perpetual pay increases and staff hirings to complete each year, beyond that we don’t have time for anything else.
Return all land to each state!!!
Some schmuck in DC knows better than the locals.
save the forest!!! don't let people destroy the ecosystem! and no more Clear Cutting!
Who is the guy in the background behind Mr. Moore? That uniform looks like a PLA military uniform.
NFS being sued in NH for wanting to log the White Mountains National Forest.
Call a spade a spade!
The local individuals have not had a voice regarding their forests since the late 1980’s.
No, he's not incompetent as some are commenting here. He is just following the orders of the wrong people. Namely those that are determined to "fundamentally transform the United States" and not in a Constitutional way! We all need to stop thinking and mouthing that these people are incompetent and start realizing and spreading the truth of the mater.
He took the bribes. And fet about 400 k a year. A free air plane to use, free vehichles, plus all the lobbying time in dc he wants to use. Lol govenment lobbying elected officials
That still does not mean he is not incompetent. It seems you may be incompetent in the ability to recognize and identify incompetence.
The only reason these NFS employees like trees is for the paper their checks are written on. And since it's mostly electronic nowadays? .......
Thank you Senator Lee for questioning one of the most questionable federal institutions in history. I have not researched this for myself but was given to understand that the creation of the U.S.F.S. was actually voted down twice by the people and then illegally snuck in the back door through miss appropriated funds. Does anyone have any information on this?
My dad worked for the forest service for many decades, and he was one of the very few people who actually gave a damn about doing things the way they were supposed to be done. In return the higher ups tried to get him to quit or get him fired. It was a complete bureaucratic shit show back then, and post Covid it’s gotten much worse. The whole damn government is like that, and it’s never going to change unless it’s punished by the people. I won’t hold my breath for that to happen.
Shite show all the way under potato.
WOW! That fella is full of SHIFF!
Like Adam Schiff, full of it or like potatoes depends, full of it.🤮
He's worried about access to loggers and miners. Not about maintaining the land for future generation.
Why wasn’t it then sir ?
Ever wonder what Pence and McConnell talked about right after the 2020 election?
There are kids committing suicide in Utah, parents killing their children and Mike Lee is very concerned about big C or little c???
Not so many years ago the Forest Service was an outstanding organization. Here in Washington State, both the State Department of Natural Resources and the US Forrest Service did outstanding jobs of designating timberlands for harvest, maintaining roads for land maintenance and fire control, and providing public accessibility to our breathtaking natural environments. Now they've become just like the National Park Service, with regulation enforcers acting as if the land is theirs and their job is to keep the public out of public lands. Roads are now gated off. Public areas are closed except for specific hours on specific days. Roads are not maintained. The Forest Service's job is to MANAGE public resources, not designate areas as "wilderness" or "no road" areas. And bureaucrats in DC can have no idea what constitutes good land management by looking at Satellite imagery on Google Earth! Counties and States should be the primary consultants on any policy.
I'd be happy if the FS would enforce basic laws, such as: cracking down on people who are semi-squatting on public forest service lands by parking and LEAVING their RVs on primitive campsites...
It’s messed up in every way imaginable
You'd be better off meeting a responsible employee off site for coffee to get answers to you questions.
Government officials must go to leftwing schools to learn how to not answer questions.