Love my 2015. Had an ‘07 and a 2010 as well. Drove a 3rd Gen and thanked the good lord above I own the last year of the best generation Tacoma…2nd Gen all day long
I’ve had Toyota trucks since 1995, and this 2015 2 gen is the best so far. The engine and transmission are superior, extremely quite and when you accelerate it just goes, no lagging looking for gears. Plus I love the look with a 3” suspension lift. I have buddies with 3rd generations and I’ll just say, I’ll stick with mine, even if I were offered a new one. That says a lot!
@@tractordave9300 traded my 2012 in on my 2020. Loved that 2012. With that being said, my 2020 is a better truck. No transmission issues at all and plenty of power
I have a 2005 Taco TRD 4- door that I bought new, 10 months ago I bought a 2019. I didn’t trade 2005, don’t care what they would have gave me it has cost me nothing but tires, battery, brakes, muffler and doesn’t burn a drop of oil. It will go to my son in 3 years when he starts driving. As long as they keep making Tacos that quality I will own one!
John Richards thank you, I really really had fun with this video because this is one of the trucks I’m most passionate about. I think Ram and GMC are my other favorite brands to do videos on.
Toyota truck fan boy here from my first Short Bed (undergrad studies )1980, and then my 1984 Long Bed (got married with that truck). Raised 2 kids and back with a 2007 Taco that has over 275K miles, and the original clutch was just replaced by my owner /son. I bought myself a 2010 SR5 and drove it for 3 years as a daily driver. Latest and 5th Taco is a 2017 TRD OffRoad....loving every one of them. Life is good. Once that 2017’s 4 year lease is up, I’m buying it up and ‘selling’ it to my Red Seal Mechanic son (who currently owns the 2007 Access Cab Taco). He gets the benefit of the buyout; well at least he gets first dibs on it. Life is good. Stay strong and stay safe, my Taco homies! Cheers
Great comparison. I thought about a new Tacoma but found a clean low mileage 2012 which suits my needs. Tech is great but nothing that your smart phone can’t provide.
I too recently bought a one owner 2012 TRD sport low mileage in manual transmission and I absolutely love it, I think I'd rather have the simplicity of a 2012 than a technically filled 2019-2020, 👍
I own a 2nd gen on purpose...I bought it new in 2015 and I could have had the new 3rd Gen 2016...but as soon as I found out it had a new "improved " 6 speed automatic transmission ... I said no thanks ... and I was right... lots of issues with it, even in 2020.... the second problem is the new Oil filter and element filter instead of the easy to change screw on canister oil filter of the 2nd gen and it is up high by the battery...so easy.. ... Toyota changed it to get more people into the dealerships for an oil change, I guess... shitty policy for the consumer.. the third problem is a shorter box length ...it is way too short compared to 2nd Gen box
I have a 2012 TRD Sport V6 4x4 Spruce Green with a gold pearlescent coat. Love it shes a beast on and off road. And she kicks ass in drag races. The payload is 6800 lbs for both 2nd and 3rd gen models equipped with the V6. A 4 banger is 3500 pounds. 2nd gen all the way baby
The 2nd gen is actually the faster of the two with the v6, not that its neck snapping performance. My 2007 base access cab 4x4 also has the 6 speed manual.
I have a red 2015 Toyota Tacoma SR5 4WD with the towing package. Great truck so far, looks good everywhere it goes. I personally like the 2nd gen slightly more, nothing against the 3rd gens though. All generations are great. The 2nd generation Tacomas are a great middle-ground between the old-school classic trucks in the 90’s, as well as being modern enough to have some creature comforts like a backup camera, etc.
I was very fortunate that my friend was kind enough to sell me his 2006 TRD D cab with fairly low mileage for a song and a dance. I have nothing against the 3rd but being an old school guy I like how the 2nd gen feels like a truck with the basic features to make it luxuriously enough without going overboard for my taste. I like starting it with a physical key and that it doesn't shut off at a stop light. Since my friend is a tech guy, he did swapped out the old stereo system with a Sony with car play and a bigger screen. The Gen 3 and the new Gen 4 look like great trucks to own but I'm guessing that if you're an old school gen-xer like me, you'd be very happy with with the older generations. It feels great cruising it down the road playing my ancient L7, Nirvana, STP, Spudgarden and Pixie albums just as much as it must feel good for a millenial guy cruising his Imagine Dragon album in his gen 3 taco. But the best feature of my truck over buying a new one is that I got an awesome truck for a deal and it's paid in full leaving me extra dinero to buy cool things like extra lights and a bull bar. LOL! No matter what gen you get, you cant go wrong getting a Taco sny gen!!! 😃👍
It is rare nowadays! Not just in the car community. I want to live my faith, I feel of the worst things I can do as a Christian is go my whole life and nobody knew I was a Christian.
I love my 4.0 2nd gen. Feels more powerful to drive. 234000 miles and she runs like a champ. My friends has the 3rd driving it feels sluggish. Not hating I love my tacoma just from mine and his experience.
Yes sir I agree. I have raced 3 different 3rd gens with my 07 prerunner with 190k miles and it out launched each one by 3 to 4 cars. I have a ebay intake and borla cat back installed. Everything else is stock.
I scooted passed a 3rd gen with my 09 trd sport. Maybe in new trucks, the pedal is restricted 😅. 3rd gen owners don't usually like scratches anyway. All I hear is the transmission sucks and they stop starting around 40k miles due to battery problems. I have a DCLB. Dude has a DCSB 3rd gen. 2nd gen is more of a hotrod. 3rd gen is a gas saver. 2nd gen factors in a good aerodynamic effect also. And less weight in interior buLL $#!7
I didn't read every comment, so maybe someone already mentioned this. You should never use cruise control while towing unless you have a full-size tow vehicle with plenty of power. Modern vehicle control systems tie engine, transmission and cruise control together along with all of the technology made to create fuel efficiency. Forcing the vehicle to operate outside of its parameters is a great way to break something. Keep doing that and you are looking at a $5000 transmission replacement bill. Also, when you try to go 65mph, you are pushing that little engine. Turn off the cruise and slow down a little. The truck will appreciate it.
Thank goodness for this video. I just escaped an even villain’s layer but have to escape the volcano that’s about to erupt but these are the only two vehicles in his garage. I think I have enough time to watch this video so wish me luck guys.
I'm now very glad I purchased my 2018 Toyota Tacoma as compared to the 2019 Tacoma model while I was negotiating price at the time. The 2019 Toyota I was interested was cement gray (which I primarily wanted). But successfully negotiating the lower price, the salesman told me the 2018 model would be the one they were willing to give me with the lower price. Low and behold I have lower storage compartments on both sides. I'm now glad I own the 2018 Tacoma model. The 2019 model has integrated GPS which the 2018 model does not have. But I didn't care at all for that option. As for my 2018 model I drive, I can't complain at all. So far, it's been very good to me and for the first time, it's a vehicle I absolutely wanted. Prior vehicles I owned were more like vehicles I needed for transportation. I was content to have a vehicle in the past, but never absolutely happy to drive it.
This was a good comparison. I’d say the suspension difference you feel is likely due to age, and due to the Bilstein shocks on the 2nd gen TRD trim vs your SR5 trim that has a standard suspension. I’m also surprised you didn’t mention a better throttle response or low end torque in the 2nd gen vs yours.. it’s something I noticed within 2 minutes of driving my buddies third gen and comparing to mine.
Great video! Thanks for making this kind of comparison. Definitely gonna buy a 2nd gen. I had a first gen and loved the simplicity. Have a 4th gen 4Runner and love the 4.0 v6! No it ain't fast, but the torque is more than adequate for the trails and traveling I do. My 4runner is the first year for the 4.0 and has 240,000 miles right now. They are tried and true as far as reliability goes. Love the look of the 3rd gen taco, but for low tech and proven power train, I'm going with the 2nd gen. Thanks again for the great video!
For your 3rd Gen SR5: Payload: 1175 lbs Tow Capacity: 6400 lbs For the 2nd Gen Sport, LB: Payload: 1215 lbs Tow Capacity: 6300 lbs (6400 for short bed) This is taken from the trucks’ brochures and assuming the Tow Package is added.
@@nystate_ofmind_ Easiest way is to check two things. One is that you have a tow hitch at the rear. Second is that you have the transmission oil cooler at the front. It's like a small black radiator in front, behind the grille on the lower side.
Just bought an 07 with 82k on the dash, here to learn a little more. Im a big toyota fan, my dad has a 20 TRDpro Tundra fully built and im excited to start my journey
I have a 05 TRD off road and will never get rid of it! Most reliable vehicle i ever owned. Also just bought a new 4 runner and I'll see how long it'll last❤
Awesome video bro!!! Nice comparison. Taco for life. I have a 2010 Tacoma TRD off-road D-4D 4 cylinder turbo diesel, my towing capability is 8,000 pounds and payload is 1,700 pounds. 26-28 city/32-36 hwy MPG!!
For excellent customizing platform: these two trucks, offer different advantages IMO. Aesthetically gen 3 has more options and can look amazing! However, the engine and transmission goes to the Gen 2. Example: for my Gen 2 4.0 Auto, I've added a Magnuson Super Charger with 6" BDS Fox suspension, and 35s, the truck did not require re-gear to hold overdrive on the highway, (almost no hunting at all) due to 5 speed auto trans, before SCharger was added.. and after the SC was added holds 5th even on hills or wind. The Gen 3 auto transmission does not like oversized tires!! May not even shift into 5th or 6th on the highway with revs above 3500!! Will almost require a re-gear with 33s or 35s. Also, if stepping up to SCharger, a NEW Magnuson SC for Gen 3 gives more HP than same set up with Gen 2, but Gen 2 with SC gives MUCH more torque ...and torque is everything IMO. Also, Gen 3, uses direct fuel injection vs traditional port injection Gen 2. This could potentially be a problem for longevity for Gen 3 as DFI engines in other brands have been wearing prematurely. Hopefully not with Toyota.
I have a ‘10 OR/4.0/6Man. It’s been trouble free. My neighbor has an ‘06 with an automatic. He has a bad habit of shifting from reverse to drive while it’s still rolling but the trans still lives and shifts fine.
2015! Last year of the 2nd gen. They really got everything right with it. Except the scratchy cloth seats. Oh and the windshield wiper speeds...its all or nothing for speeds
I've been researching this. Foglights, cruise control and intermittent wipers are all pre wired. Plug and play. Manual transmission requires a clutch switch.
Both badass! I got my third gen manual transmission TRD off-road OTT tuned it runs so much better throttle response is crisp & feels like a different truck! I don't think u can go wrong either way!
I have a 2003 V6 sr5 4x4 and the towing capacity is 5000. Hard to believe the 2012 would be less. My 03 I bought new has 93000 miles on it and other than normal maintenance nothing has ever gone wrong. One comment all gauges should be black numbers on white background. Look the best any easiest to read. Also I like that feel of driving a truck not an SUV (car). Thanks for the review but will keep my 03.
One huge difference is that the 2nd gens have a boxed frame vs a C frame on the 3rd gens. The box frame is stronger but since it is enclosed it is also more susceptible to rust. Anyone who knows the history of the 2nd gens knows this was a very big problem that Toyota had to fix by recalling and replacing the frames on many of those trucks. The real problem was the steel and steel treatments used in the manufacture of the frames, and the company that produced those frames, I believe, ended up going out of business. Just a side note; the regular cab frames were built by a different company and were not known to suffer from the same problem. The C frame in the 3rd gen is a reaction to that previous issue. By having one side of the frame open, the structure is less likely to hold moisture and therefore better able to dry out reducing the likelihood of rust. However, the C frame is less rigid and more prone to flexing.
You are thinking of the pre Tacoma and the first gen Tacoma’s had a fully boxed frame front to rear. They had their issues but not to have a full on recall with frame rust. The second and third generation both have a partial boxed frame in the front starting under the front seats and all the way to the front bumper mounts. Both also from all that I’ve seen have a double C channel for most of the frame. That’s where the rust issues were the biggest issues.
I have had both a 2012 and now own a 2019 as well...When you talked about the rear seating area... the 2012 has fold away head rests, while my 2019 rear seat backs, the head rests need to be removed to fold the seats down....
2.5 gen ftw. Just cracked 150k on my 14 sport and i currently have a 23 sr5 as a rental for a few weeks while toyota paints my truck for free, because super white. I miss my truck, the 3rd gen drives like a lifted camry
@@AlphaShark Toyota has a warranty enhancement for a lot of models for super white and blizzard white pearl, I complained enough that they are covering it under warranty. They have already painted my passenger side doors 2 years ago and now my fenders, hood and gas door are peeling.
I like both vehicles but I like the 2nd gen a little better because it actually has a truck engine. 3rd gen Tacoma engines are in some cars. A truck engine should have more torque than hp.
I got an Access Cab 2012 4x4 two years ago with 199K+ miles on it. At 205K I got a power steering fluid leak. The cross-transfer steel return line corroded in one corner. I replaced the entire run with rated-PS hose, one brass hose barb, and two SS hose clamps for
As an owner of a 2015 and 2017 SR5 Tacomas I can honestly say the 2017 is leaps better in seat comfort, interestingly enough there’s enough space that I can even fit in the back rows with less issues compared to the 2015, and overall is just more visually pleasing and truckier than the ‘15. Reliability is a no factor since both trucks are as bulletproof as they come with regular maintenance.
I have that exact truck but a 2013 and I definitely prefer it over the newer version. The longer 6' bed gives it a much better/longer, and to me, a better looking stance. And for me, the one thing you missed is maintenance. Changing the oil on the 4.0 liter engine is much easier and less messy than on the new version. The oil filter is on top of the engine making filter changes ultra convenient. Where as on the new engine, you do not have a spin on filter, you have a messy cartridge instead, and it's location could be better.
How does interior space - cab head room, leg room, compare between the two generations with similar (non-power) seating?? The 2nd gen does look like a smaller overall vehicle.
@@AlphaShark Thanks. I was at a dealer booth at the local Auto Show, and they told me Toyota was actually dropping roof lines to gain slightly less wind resistance and more fuel economy in their vehicles. Also, apparently you can lose as much as four inches of headroom with power seats, even more with sunroof. I have a tall kid who fortunately fits our RAV and our Highlander, but I want to get a Taco and he is not comfortable in the ones we checked out.
I had the unique opportunity to drive a 2018 for 8 weeks while my 2007 was having a frame replacement. I couldn't wait to get my 07 back. The 18 trans was irritating.
@@zebbossi7847 I have a new frame so that issue is solved and zero transmission problems on my 07. It was irritating of going through the aggravation of a frame replacement but my truck is now virtually new. Toyota stood behind their product in a way no US company would have.
I must admit, I never owned a generation 2 or even drove one. I never owned a Toyota until I bought my '18 Tacoma Sport. Admittedly, I don't put many miles on a vehicle, and only have 23000 on this and it's just shy of three years old, but I love it. Hopefully I won't encounter any transmission issues as I've read here, but maybe it's because I don't have a cross reference to compare to my truck as far as torque response goes. I do know Toyota builds a great vehicle and it should last me a good long time. I've never had a vehicle for more than 65 or seventy thousand miles before trade or selling, so it should be okay. Thanks for all the interesting input.
All I can say my 4th gen tacoma is the best. is a 2030, I get it 6 years a go and is been the best truck I ever had. no problems at all, everything is invisible you can’t see nothing wrong with it😂
Just got a second gen TRD Offroad and love it. Though I drove a 2002 Tacoma, 4 cylinder, extremely base model 5-Speed before that. I love these trucks all around. Hard to make a bad decision either way.
241,000, mi on my 2015. The only thing I've changed is the carrier bearing, u-joints, alternator and headlights.(Just for preference) Still runs like a dream. Second gen all the way.
If the only thing to consider was seat comfort for the driver, which generation should I go with? 6'3 225lbs over here. I seem to recall the 2nd gen felt like you were further from the floor...
just one question...I bought my 2012 3rd sport ,6 ft bed,4 door .4.0engine.......how come mine doesnt have a screen?just a am/fm radio and cd disk player???? purchased it new July 2012 from a dealer. brand new
Sport Trucks (both generations) have stiffer shocks and thicker anti sway bars. Both of which would explain the ride differences. Also, depending on the milage on the 2012 the shocks might have needed replacing. Most shock mfgs recommend the shocks changed after 60 to 80 thousand miles. Sr5s have standard suspension (softer ride).
With the 1GR-FE engine in the 2nd gen, the torque comes in at lower RPM making it more suitable for towing or rock crawling for examples. There is a reason why the current 4Runners still use the 4.0L displacement motor although they’ve updated it with dual VVT-i.
Great idea about the generational comparison, your correct that there isn’t a lot of them but this was a great one! Keep up the good work and love the videos.
Weird about the left side cubby thing. I have a 2018 TRD Sport and I have the big cubby on the left side, and the power outlet and small cubby on the right side.
Funny thing... That happened to me recently, and I was really unsure of what to do. Also, volcano lairs are structurally unstable and really poor choices for evildoing... Anyway, great review! I like your style!
Thank you! And I know, why would bad guys keep making volcano lairs? Maybe they just saw James Bond movies and they all wanted Volcano lairs because they do look totally rad. I can only imagine the nightmare the building code guy must have to go through to make sure the volcano is up to code.
Great video thank you very much buddy I’m thinking to buy a Tacoma between 09 and 2015 I don’t have a Lotta money what do you recommend to buy thank you very much??
6500lbs for the v6 4x4 according to the downloaded owners manual from toyota
That seems much more accurate! I wonder where the other websites I looked at got their info from!
You can also check towing capacity on the driver's side door sticker.
@@AlphaShark inline 4 cylinder has the lower tow rating
Towing capacity differs for the trucks without the factory tow package. With the tow package you’re good for 6500 lbs.
Actually for the automatic it was 6400lbs and the manual transmission it was 6500lbs
I wouldn't trade my 2015 for a 2024! 120,000 and it runs like the day I picked it up new. Still looks new, even 10 years later!
Of course not. The 2024 is a Tacoma no one asked for and is the worst generation (IMO).
Love my 2015. Had an ‘07 and a 2010 as well. Drove a 3rd Gen and thanked the good lord above I own the last year of the best generation Tacoma…2nd Gen all day long
Switch 800 I also a 2015 SR5 V6 double cab It’s a beast and beautiful on the interstate
Can you inform us on why you prefer the 2nd gen Tacos?
I’ve had Toyota trucks since 1995, and this 2015 2 gen is the best so far. The engine and transmission are superior, extremely quite and when you accelerate it just goes, no lagging looking for gears. Plus I love the look with a 3” suspension lift. I have buddies with 3rd generations and I’ll just say, I’ll stick with mine, even if I were offered a new one. That says a lot!
@@tractordave9300 traded my 2012 in on my 2020. Loved that 2012. With that being said, my 2020 is a better truck. No transmission issues at all and plenty of power
Cuzz 28 Being fair, I did here the 2020-21s have fixed the issues and are great trucks.
Love my second gen 190k miles and still going strong
aim for a million miles + like the boys in africa do. Some crafty dudes, these toyotas will run forever.
Haha my 1st gen 300,000, and still going! We got the best trucks!
I have a 2005 Taco TRD 4- door that I bought new, 10 months ago I bought a 2019. I didn’t trade 2005, don’t care what they would have gave me it has cost me nothing but tires, battery, brakes, muffler and doesn’t burn a drop of oil. It will go to my son in 3 years when he starts driving. As long as they keep making Tacos that quality I will own one!
Agree! I have a 2009 and it'd be perfectly fine if it was my only Tacoma ever
Did you end up giving the truck to your son? I have an 03 4runner with the 4.7 and I plan to gift it to my daughter when she's old enough
@@coltluger2079
He will have his license by mid-July, then the truck is his. 👍
I've never seen an intergenerational comparison. I liked that a lot.
John Richards thank you, I really really had fun with this video because this is one of the trucks I’m most passionate about. I think Ram and GMC are my other favorite brands to do videos on.
Toyota truck fan boy here from my first Short Bed (undergrad studies )1980, and then my 1984 Long Bed (got married with that truck). Raised 2 kids and back with a 2007 Taco that has over 275K miles, and the original clutch was just replaced by my owner /son. I bought myself a 2010 SR5 and drove it for 3 years as a daily driver. Latest and 5th Taco is a 2017 TRD OffRoad....loving every one of them. Life is good. Once that 2017’s 4 year lease is up, I’m buying it up and ‘selling’ it to my Red Seal Mechanic son (who currently owns the 2007 Access Cab Taco). He gets the benefit of the buyout; well at least he gets first dibs on it. Life is good. Stay strong and stay safe, my Taco homies! Cheers
What a dad! God bless you! I'm sure he's gonna love that, I love to see so much positivity in the truck community.
Great comparison. I thought about a new Tacoma but found a clean low mileage 2012 which suits my needs. Tech is great but nothing that your smart phone can’t provide.
Very true! Thank you
I wonder how much you paid for it ! Best pickup truck I had a 2012 too
I too recently bought a one owner 2012 TRD sport low mileage in manual transmission and I absolutely love it, I think I'd rather have the simplicity of a 2012 than a technically filled 2019-2020, 👍
Yeah I don't need the technology and the 3rd gen just doesn't look as good as the second gen🔥
Well said same here with the 2012
One feature that was overlooked:
the cup holders on the 2nd are larger.
This. The 2nd gen cup holders can fit a Nalgene or large tumbler. That’s huge
I own a 2nd gen on purpose...I bought it new in 2015 and I could have had the new 3rd Gen 2016...but as soon as I found out it had a new "improved " 6 speed automatic transmission ... I said no thanks ... and I was right... lots of issues with it, even in 2020.... the second problem is the new Oil filter and element filter instead of the easy to change screw on canister oil filter of the 2nd gen and it is up high by the battery...so easy.. ... Toyota changed it to get more people into the dealerships for an oil change, I guess... shitty policy for the consumer.. the third problem is a shorter box length ...it is way too short compared to 2nd Gen box
I’m pretty sure there remodeling the Tacoma for 2022 so good call I bought a 2014 last year
@@willjennings983 no
I have a 2012 TRD Sport V6 4x4 Spruce Green with a gold pearlescent coat. Love it shes a beast on and off road. And she kicks ass in drag races. The payload is 6800 lbs for both 2nd and 3rd gen models equipped with the V6. A 4 banger is 3500 pounds. 2nd gen all the way baby
Wow, It's an honor Mr. Cena. Also glad to know John Cena is a Taco guy.
The 2nd gen is actually the faster of the two with the v6, not that its neck snapping performance. My 2007 base access cab 4x4 also has the 6 speed manual.
did you add any kind of lift or leveling kit to it? looking into getting a 2 inch spacer kit for my front suspension to give it a better AoA
Yep, my 2014 V6 4x4 will get up and go.
I have a red 2015 Toyota Tacoma SR5 4WD with the towing package. Great truck so far, looks good everywhere it goes. I personally like the 2nd gen slightly more, nothing against the 3rd gens though. All generations are great. The 2nd generation Tacomas are a great middle-ground between the old-school classic trucks in the 90’s, as well as being modern enough to have some creature comforts like a backup camera, etc.
i have an 05 with 300k. if i can find a 15 offroad with low miles i would buy that in a heart beat lol
I was very fortunate that my friend was kind enough to sell me his 2006 TRD D cab with fairly low mileage for a song and a dance. I have nothing against the 3rd but being an old school guy I like how the 2nd gen feels like a truck with the basic features to make it luxuriously enough without going overboard for my taste. I like starting it with a physical key and that it doesn't shut off at a stop light. Since my friend is a tech guy, he did swapped out the old stereo system with a Sony with car play and a bigger screen. The Gen 3 and the new Gen 4 look like great trucks to own but I'm guessing that if you're an old school gen-xer like me, you'd be very happy with with the older generations. It feels great cruising it down the road playing my ancient L7, Nirvana, STP, Spudgarden and Pixie albums just as much as it must feel good for a millenial guy cruising his Imagine Dragon album in his gen 3 taco. But the best feature of my truck over buying a new one is that I got an awesome truck for a deal and it's paid in full leaving me extra dinero to buy cool things like extra lights and a bull bar. LOL! No matter what gen you get, you cant go wrong getting a Taco sny gen!!! 😃👍
I’m a millennial driving a gen 3 Taco and all of the bands you listed are on my playlist 😂 and I think Imagine Dragons suck ass
@@zackg5046 Then I must say that your parents are lucky to have you as a son! I wish you and your Taco great fortune and long life! 👍
I have a second GEN 2014 Tacoma access cab SR5 model. I absolutely love my taco I hope to keep it for the next 20 years. My first pick up ever
I had both and 2nd gen felt like it was faster/had more usable power. Sure the newer one has a nicer interior but I’d rather mod out a 2nd gen
2nd gen all day love the tail lights engine transmission size definitely like the interior just based off how it’s so easy to clean vs cloth etc.
This is a cool video. I just got a 2012 and am really liking it so far.
Awesome! I will honestly pray it lasts you a long time trouble free Jason!
Thank you for the excellent information! I appreciate the prayer request line at the end as well. Nice to see the faith around here.
It is rare nowadays! Not just in the car community. I want to live my faith, I feel of the worst things I can do as a Christian is go my whole life and nobody knew I was a Christian.
Best part of the whole demonstration
I love my 4.0 2nd gen. Feels more powerful to drive. 234000 miles and she runs like a champ. My friends has the 3rd driving it feels sluggish. Not hating I love my tacoma just from mine and his experience.
Yes sir I agree. I have raced 3 different 3rd gens with my 07 prerunner with 190k miles and it out launched each one by 3 to 4 cars. I have a ebay intake and borla cat back installed. Everything else is stock.
I scooted passed a 3rd gen with my 09 trd sport. Maybe in new trucks, the pedal is restricted 😅. 3rd gen owners don't usually like scratches anyway. All I hear is the transmission sucks and they stop starting around 40k miles due to battery problems. I have a DCLB. Dude has a DCSB 3rd gen.
2nd gen is more of a hotrod. 3rd gen is a gas saver.
2nd gen factors in a good aerodynamic effect also. And less weight in interior buLL $#!7
@@CaptainFALKEN lol. Yep that sounds about right.
2nd generation hands down 🤙🏼
I didn't read every comment, so maybe someone already mentioned this. You should never use cruise control while towing unless you have a full-size tow vehicle with plenty of power. Modern vehicle control systems tie engine, transmission and cruise control together along with all of the technology made to create fuel efficiency. Forcing the vehicle to operate outside of its parameters is a great way to break something. Keep doing that and you are looking at a $5000 transmission replacement bill. Also, when you try to go 65mph, you are pushing that little engine. Turn off the cruise and slow down a little. The truck will appreciate it.
Great video. I have a 2011 TRD sport and enjoyed your perspective.
I've had one of each gen, I'm a 3rd generation fan but they all were amazing for their time.
It's a Toyota of course they're all amazing.
13-15 Tacoma are the best. But really, the best Tacoma is the one you are holding the title with your hand
the 2nd gen is an overall much better truck and I have a 19 trd off-road
Just picked up my first taco 2008 trd sport with 200,000kms and I absolutely love it. Best 4K ive ever spent!!!
Thank goodness for this video. I just escaped an even villain’s layer but have to escape the volcano that’s about to erupt but these are the only two vehicles in his garage. I think I have enough time to watch this video so wish me luck guys.
This video solidified my decision to go with a 2nd Gen. Thanks so much!
Glad I could help!
I'm now very glad I purchased my 2018 Toyota Tacoma as compared to the 2019 Tacoma model while I was negotiating price at the time. The 2019 Toyota I was interested was cement gray (which I primarily wanted). But successfully negotiating the lower price, the salesman told me the 2018 model would be the one they were willing to give me with the lower price. Low and behold I have lower storage compartments on both sides. I'm now glad I own the 2018 Tacoma model. The 2019 model has integrated GPS which the 2018 model does not have. But I didn't care at all for that option. As for my 2018 model I drive, I can't complain at all. So far, it's been very good to me and for the first time, it's a vehicle I absolutely wanted. Prior vehicles I owned were more like vehicles I needed for transportation. I was content to have a vehicle in the past, but never absolutely happy to drive it.
This was a good comparison. I’d say the suspension difference you feel is likely due to age, and due to the Bilstein shocks on the 2nd gen TRD trim vs your SR5 trim that has a standard suspension. I’m also surprised you didn’t mention a better throttle response or low end torque in the 2nd gen vs yours.. it’s something I noticed within 2 minutes of driving my buddies third gen and comparing to mine.
Same for me, my 2011 Gen 2 has better throttle and torque than my friend's 2020 TRD Pro.
I agree, my 2007 had the full frame and control arm/leaf spring replacement this last fall and it feels like a brand new truck again.
Thank you, I can finally go to sleep at night.
Great video! Thanks for making this kind of comparison. Definitely gonna buy a 2nd gen. I had a first gen and loved the simplicity. Have a 4th gen 4Runner and love the 4.0 v6! No it ain't fast, but the torque is more than adequate for the trails and traveling I do. My 4runner is the first year for the 4.0 and has 240,000 miles right now. They are tried and true as far as reliability goes. Love the look of the 3rd gen taco, but for low tech and proven power train, I'm going with the 2nd gen. Thanks again for the great video!
Just purchased a 2015 4x4 tacoma and love it
For your 3rd Gen SR5:
Payload: 1175 lbs
Tow Capacity: 6400 lbs
For the 2nd Gen Sport, LB:
Payload: 1215 lbs
Tow Capacity: 6300 lbs (6400 for short bed)
This is taken from the trucks’ brochures and assuming the Tow Package is added.
Yeah I was about to say. I have a 2013 trd sport long bed and I know I have way more towing capacity than 3.5k haha
How do you know if you have the tow package? I JUST got my first truck 3 days ago, it was a 2011 Tacoma
@@nystate_ofmind_ Easiest way is to check two things. One is that you have a tow hitch at the rear. Second is that you have the transmission oil cooler at the front. It's like a small black radiator in front, behind the grille on the lower side.
3rd gens break when they get scratched
Just bought an 07 with 82k on the dash, here to learn a little more. Im a big toyota fan, my dad has a 20 TRDpro Tundra fully built and im excited to start my journey
Outstanding purchase! How much did you pay? Im in the market also...
I have a 05 TRD off road and will never get rid of it! Most reliable vehicle i ever owned. Also just bought a new 4 runner and I'll see how long it'll last❤
Awesome video bro!!! Nice comparison. Taco for life. I have a 2010 Tacoma TRD off-road D-4D 4 cylinder turbo diesel, my towing capability is 8,000 pounds and payload is 1,700 pounds. 26-28 city/32-36 hwy MPG!!
Where do you live that the Taco comes with a diesel. Us Americans don't get Toyota's with diesels unfortunately 😭
There's a company that will perform the swap, everything works as factory intended but it's super expensive!
Pics or it didnt happen
For excellent customizing platform: these two trucks, offer different advantages IMO. Aesthetically gen 3 has more options and can look amazing! However, the engine and transmission goes to the Gen 2. Example: for my Gen 2 4.0 Auto, I've added a Magnuson Super Charger with 6" BDS Fox suspension, and 35s, the truck did not require re-gear to hold overdrive on the highway, (almost no hunting at all) due to 5 speed auto trans, before SCharger was added.. and after the SC was added holds 5th even on hills or wind. The Gen 3 auto transmission does not like oversized tires!! May not even shift into 5th or 6th on the highway with revs above 3500!! Will almost require a re-gear with 33s or 35s. Also, if stepping up to SCharger, a NEW Magnuson SC for Gen 3 gives more HP than same set up with Gen 2, but Gen 2 with SC gives MUCH more torque ...and torque is everything IMO. Also, Gen 3, uses direct fuel injection vs traditional port injection Gen 2. This could potentially be a problem for longevity for Gen 3 as DFI engines in other brands have been wearing prematurely. Hopefully not with Toyota.
It has both it’s an Atkinson motor
I have a ‘10 OR/4.0/6Man. It’s been trouble free. My neighbor has an ‘06 with an automatic. He has a bad habit of shifting from reverse to drive while it’s still rolling but the trans still lives and shifts fine.
The problem with all of them is frame rust.
2015! Last year of the 2nd gen. They really got everything right with it. Except the scratchy cloth seats. Oh and the windshield wiper speeds...its all or nothing for speeds
Had the same issue with my 13 base model. New multi speed wiper switch from a sr5 fit perfectly.
@@jackk8422 Thanks! Ill have to check that out.
I've been researching this. Foglights, cruise control and intermittent wipers are all pre wired. Plug and play. Manual transmission requires a clutch switch.
10/10 on the opening part of the video my guy 😂
Both badass! I got my third gen manual transmission TRD off-road OTT tuned it runs so much better throttle response is crisp & feels like a different truck! I don't think u can go wrong either way!
2nd gen all day everyday
Can’t deny the looks of the 2nd gen
I have a 2003 V6 sr5 4x4 and the towing capacity is 5000. Hard to believe the 2012 would be less. My 03 I bought new has 93000 miles on it and other than normal maintenance nothing has ever gone wrong. One comment all gauges should be black numbers on white background. Look the best any easiest to read. Also I like that feel of driving a truck not an SUV (car). Thanks for the review but will keep my 03.
As an 03’ owner I couldn’t agree more.
One huge difference is that the 2nd gens have a boxed frame vs a C frame on the 3rd gens. The box frame is stronger but since it is enclosed it is also more susceptible to rust. Anyone who knows the history of the 2nd gens knows this was a very big problem that Toyota had to fix by recalling and replacing the frames on many of those trucks. The real problem was the steel and steel treatments used in the manufacture of the frames, and the company that produced those frames, I believe, ended up going out of business. Just a side note; the regular cab frames were built by a different company and were not known to suffer from the same problem. The C frame in the 3rd gen is a reaction to that previous issue. By having one side of the frame open, the structure is less likely to hold moisture and therefore better able to dry out reducing the likelihood of rust. However, the C frame is less rigid and more prone to flexing.
You are thinking of the pre Tacoma and the first gen Tacoma’s had a fully boxed frame front to rear. They had their issues but not to have a full on recall with frame rust. The second and third generation both have a partial boxed frame in the front starting under the front seats and all the way to the front bumper mounts. Both also from all that I’ve seen have a double C channel for most of the frame. That’s where the rust issues were the biggest issues.
Generation Comparison is a good video idea💡
How can I double/triple like this video?! Awesome review 👍👍👍
I think the 2019 Tacoma has proven itself against Robotnik in Sonic.
I have had both a 2012 and now own a 2019 as well...When you talked about the rear seating area... the 2012 has fold away head rests, while my 2019 rear seat backs, the head rests need to be removed to fold the seats down....
Luv your show . Luv your honesty.
2.5 gen ftw. Just cracked 150k on my 14 sport and i currently have a 23 sr5 as a rental for a few weeks while toyota paints my truck for free, because super white. I miss my truck, the 3rd gen drives like a lifted camry
Why are they painting it for free?
@@AlphaShark Toyota has a warranty enhancement for a lot of models for super white and blizzard white pearl, I complained enough that they are covering it under warranty. They have already painted my passenger side doors 2 years ago and now my fenders, hood and gas door are peeling.
I have a 2014 4.0 v6 89.000 miles on it no problems at all no need for a new gen..
I have a 2013 TRD Off Road! Love it!
Congrats you probably have the best Tacoma ever made.
@@liamnissanS2K seriously? Awesome!
I like both vehicles but I like the 2nd gen a little better because it actually has a truck engine. 3rd gen Tacoma engines are in some cars. A truck engine should have more torque than hp.
By one minute and 9 seconds in I found your delivery freshly humorous! LOL😀
I got an Access Cab 2012 4x4 two years ago with 199K+ miles on it. At 205K I got a power steering fluid leak. The cross-transfer steel return line corroded in one corner. I replaced the entire run with rated-PS hose, one brass hose barb, and two SS hose clamps for
As an owner of a 2015 and 2017 SR5 Tacomas I can honestly say the 2017 is leaps better in seat comfort, interestingly enough there’s enough space that I can even fit in the back rows with less issues compared to the 2015, and overall is just more visually pleasing and truckier than the ‘15. Reliability is a no factor since both trucks are as bulletproof as they come with regular maintenance.
I have that exact truck but a 2013 and I definitely prefer it over the newer version. The longer 6' bed gives it a much better/longer, and to me, a better looking stance. And for me, the one thing you missed is maintenance. Changing the oil on the 4.0 liter engine is much easier and less messy than on the new version. The oil filter is on top of the engine making filter changes ultra convenient. Where as on the new engine, you do not have a spin on filter, you have a messy cartridge instead, and it's location could be better.
How does interior space - cab head room, leg room, compare between the two generations with similar (non-power) seating?? The 2nd gen does look like a smaller overall vehicle.
It’s pretty similar to be honest.
@@AlphaShark Thanks. I was at a dealer booth at the local Auto Show, and they told me Toyota was actually dropping roof lines to gain slightly less wind resistance and more fuel economy in their vehicles. Also, apparently you can lose as much as four inches of headroom with power seats, even more with sunroof. I have a tall kid who fortunately fits our RAV and our Highlander, but I want to get a Taco and he is not comfortable in the ones we checked out.
I own a 2012 and a 2019 ... I like them both. Haven’t had the 2019 long enough but the 2012 shifts nicer for sure
Bro I wish I had the cash for 2 Tacomas Haha!
I had the unique opportunity to drive a 2018 for 8 weeks while my 2007 was having a frame replacement. I couldn't wait to get my 07 back. The 18 trans was irritating.
That's about to happen to me while I drop off my 2009 DCLB for frame replacement
What was more irritating for you, the transmission shifting or your frame rusting and needing to be replaced?
@@zebbossi7847 I have a new frame so that issue is solved and zero transmission problems on my 07. It was irritating of going through the aggravation of a frame replacement but my truck is now virtually new. Toyota stood behind their product in a way no US company would have.
@@chrisanthony7552 i had a 2012 and now have a 2020. They drive literally the same. Love my 2020
I must admit, I never owned a generation 2 or even drove one. I never owned a Toyota until I bought my '18 Tacoma Sport. Admittedly, I don't put many miles on a vehicle, and only have 23000 on this and it's just shy of three years old, but I love it. Hopefully I won't encounter any transmission issues as I've read here, but maybe it's because I don't have a cross reference to compare to my truck as far as torque response goes. I do know Toyota builds a great vehicle and it should last me a good long time. I've never had a vehicle for more than 65 or seventy thousand miles before trade or selling, so it should be okay. Thanks for all the interesting input.
All I can say my 4th gen tacoma is the best. is a 2030, I get it 6 years a go and is been the best truck I ever had. no problems at all, everything is invisible you can’t see nothing wrong with it😂
Just got a second gen TRD Offroad and love it. Though I drove a 2002 Tacoma, 4 cylinder, extremely base model 5-Speed before that. I love these trucks all around. Hard to make a bad decision either way.
i've been looking to buy a used Tacoma. your video has some great info. thanks..
241,000, mi on my 2015. The only thing I've changed is the carrier bearing, u-joints, alternator and headlights.(Just for preference)
Still runs like a dream. Second gen all the way.
Towing capacity is based on whether or not the vehicle has the optional towing package. With that package it is indeed 6500lbs.
I have a 2019. The 2nd gen does have a more bullet proof look to it, but in time, maybe the 3rd gen will earn the same respect.
Let's hope so! A lot of people are saying "second gen all the way" but the 3rd gen honestly hasn't been around long enough to prove the test of time!
The Toyota truck is losing simplicity, that's why it's starting to have issues and breaking faster. It won't stand the test of time like past Tacomas.
@@CaptainFALKEN I guess we'll see
@@CaptainFALKEN Only time will tell
Excellent comparisons!
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Youre my new favorite TH-camr!
Thank you!
you missed out on the towing capacity of 2nd gen. with the towing package it is 6500#. I absolutely love my composite bed in my truck.
My 2016 has the driver side bed compartment must just be the newer ones that do not have it.
Got a 2011 SR5 V6... 200k miles! Runs like it's new!!
I love the look of the 2012, it has the same rims as my moms 07 4runner and I miss her 4runner
If the only thing to consider was seat comfort for the driver, which generation should I go with? 6'3 225lbs over here. I seem to recall the 2nd gen felt like you were further from the floor...
I don't think the 2nd gen necessarily does, I just did a Tacoma history video and I compared the seating positions and they felt almost identical.
I love my Gen 2.5 2012 face-lift. Hands down 2nd gen is the best truck 😁
which trim?
Right? Mine's a 2012 TRD Sport DCLB with 96k miles. No mechanical issues.
Awesome man I have a 3rd gen !
Give me the 2nd gen all day . With that said I test drove a 2020 Tacoma limited edition I really liked it
I have a 2nd gen 2013 trd sport with a lift and aftermarket wheels on it and I love it
My 2018 does have some shifting issues. Both look great.
just one question...I bought my 2012 3rd sport ,6 ft bed,4 door .4.0engine.......how come mine doesnt have a screen?just a am/fm radio and cd disk player???? purchased it new July 2012 from a dealer. brand new
At the time screens weren't standard, so it may have been an option.
@@AlphaShark ok thanks
My 2011 tacoma trd sport locks from the key fob you can here it engage but sometimes doesnt work but there is no manuel lock
2nd Gen Tacoma and it's not close.
Sport Trucks (both generations) have stiffer shocks and thicker anti sway bars. Both of which would explain the ride differences. Also, depending on the milage on the 2012 the shocks might have needed replacing. Most shock mfgs recommend the shocks changed after 60 to 80 thousand miles. Sr5s have standard suspension (softer ride).
My 2009 has 124k miles and the shocks have never been changed.
They desperately need changed. They ride like $#!7 and are rusty as hell
@@CaptainFALKEN 2012 trd sport here. 148K miles and never replaced the shocks. Everytime I take it in for service they say the shocks are still good.
The towing capacity is more then 3,500 check the owners manual. That’s for the 4 banger which is actually impressive for a 4cyl.
Just got a 3rd gen I love it
With the 1GR-FE engine in the 2nd gen, the torque comes in at lower RPM making it more suitable for towing or rock crawling for examples. There is a reason why the current 4Runners still use the 4.0L displacement motor although they’ve updated it with dual VVT-i.
Had a Tacoma for a 11 years very reliable but small inside the cab & MPG of a Full size. I ended up trading it in for a Tundra.
What ever you want. They are both amazing trucks.
Great idea about the generational comparison, your correct that there isn’t a lot of them but this was a great one! Keep up the good work and love the videos.
Thank you!
Weird about the left side cubby thing. I have a 2018 TRD Sport and I have the big cubby on the left side, and the power outlet and small cubby on the right side.
Well Ryan, if I was escaping a volcano i'd be all about ground clearance and tires. Thanks for the vid.
My 2013 TRD sport doesn't have the over wheel well cubbies. Weird. I never use those cubbies anyway but.. Weird.
Funny thing... That happened to me recently, and I was really unsure of what to do. Also, volcano lairs are structurally unstable and really poor choices for evildoing... Anyway, great review! I like your style!
Thank you! And I know, why would bad guys keep making volcano lairs? Maybe they just saw James Bond movies and they all wanted Volcano lairs because they do look totally rad. I can only imagine the nightmare the building code guy must have to go through to make sure the volcano is up to code.
Team 2nd gen.
Great video thank you very much buddy I’m thinking to buy a Tacoma between 09 and 2015 I don’t have a Lotta money what do you recommend to buy thank you very much??
I recommend any Taco you can find in your price range!
This video was incredible
Lol, I try
What’s considered the peak 2nd gen year in terms of reliability?
Probably the last, 2015
@@AlphaShark👌🏻
It's 6500lbs for the v6 second gen and 3500lbs for the 4 cyl model. Also the payload his higher for the 4cyl model as well at 1345lbs.
2nd gen towing capacity was 6400lbs for the automatic and 6500lbs for the manual transmission
If i remember correctly the 2018-2020 Trd tacoma can lock the tail gate inside the cabin with the switch or with your keyfob..
Hmmm maybe it’s a higher trim thing
Yes, that rigth, my 2016 Tacoma TRD Sport, can lock the tailgate whit the valet key !!!! Awesome video, great idea 👍🏻