Honestly, I’ll take the reworks as content for the time being if this is what they have to do to build the game back up. Buffs means new viable weapons, which means fun stuff we already have that wasn’t great before is now viable
Yeah they're in an impossible place. The amount of noise about reverting nerfs (real and imagined) has combined with the justifiable concerns about serious bugs/crashes to push actual content release off the table. But now that the bugs and weapon buffs/nerfs are being focused on, the same element of the community has immediately switched to complaining about content. People will just have to accept that the changes they shouted long and hard for are the actual content for now.
heavy armor should prevent stagers and at least limit ragdolls... runing heavy armor as is now makes you slow target, you eat more rockets and more chargers/tentacles... in the end you ragdol about 2x as much with heavy armor than with light... which is bull and makes heavy armor borderline useless
I've never had an Xbox, so I downloaded Halo the MCC on my steam deck and have been playing through the campaign. Played one game of HD the other day, got hit by a 380 bombardment, nowhere near any enemy and thought..nah, I'm ok and left xD
I have told butters for months on his streams that watching him always running around with empty mags bugs the shit out of me. I tell you thats the real reason why he likes using energy weapons, he never has to reload them.
💯 Agreed about Space Marine 2. Been playing the hell out of the game and it's fun but Helldivers 2 is a different experience that keeps me wanting more. Hoping this next patch brings more players back and the devs stop with their shenanigans in the future.
As long as we get NEW TERRAIN and going INSIDE BUILDINGS or Underground tunnels. Later in the future, of course. Gotta fix their released game every month.
50% of the playerbase never leaves bug side as an average.as for the 1/3 of bot players who dont go over to bug side, probably has something to do with the constant loss of territory on that side. It literally took Joel putting the gloom mechanic in to put a dent in how hard the push on bug side has been.
The biggest thing is the developers need to acknowledge that the player base wants to go back to Helldivers , Where the Helldivers are the best of the best, with the ability to be tanks and if necessary one man armies. Players want to be powerful even when we are supposed to be throwaway pawns.
Christ how many times does it have to be pointed out that the whole 'best of the best' thing is in-game propaganda. The reality in HD2 is that they're a bunch of expendable doofuses who literally get defrosted from a rack and thrown into the fray. Do you remember the training section? The way the little fireworks go off and you get your cloak confirming you're some elite soldier after about 10-15 minutes training? It's satire, which is part of what makes this have fun. Along with the Helldivers constantly blowing their comrades up alongside the enemy. So no, they are not supposed to be one-man armies (it's a co-op game...) nor are they the best of the best. This isn't HD1 and it's not supposed to be. Why some people cannot accept a game like this without this crazed power fantasy bullshit being satisfied is beyond me.
I wanna play with you two , it would be hilarious!!! DKB-KILLIN-YOU on PSn would this be possible to link up in a squad together? I love the podcast I laugh the whole time, especially regarding HOLMGAN ( did I spell that right?) Vikings is the shit ❤️❤️❤️much love to yall
Yeah I'm the problem on bug side. But that's because I love Kill it with fire tactics. Kinda Ironically that I prefer the arc thrower over the flamethrower. But both are useless on bot side so I don't go? When we can do a fire nation duels with Hulks and fire is good against more than just the rocket/heavy devs I will play bots. I will Agni Kai Tanks if fire is an option! So I hope the devs fix fire like they said.
My main issue with Space Marine 2 is the PvE upgrade economy. There is a CHANCE that you may find the Servo-Skull or mini-boss that will grant you the material. I'm jumping between the first 2 difficulties and have barely found any materials required to upgrade my arsenal.
Good take. People have some justifiable concerns about the state of the game. Basic things like social hub functionality and frequently-seen game crash bugs spring to mind. If they want these things fixed and weapon nerfs reversed in the short term, they just need to accept that this is what they're going to get for now, at the expense of the release of additional content in the short term.
I can’t wait for the weapon fix ! I feel like the enemies are over loaded and overwhelming! , and I don’t have anything to fight them off ! I see that is causing people to constantly quit matches and it’s becoming a waist of time trying to find people to actually play the game correctly ! Dropping in the right place on the map attacking the right places first and working as a team seems almost impossible for the first five games until I find a decent crew to play with ! But having weapons and less time on stratagems would help
I think superearth fight will happen eventually but not anytime soon. There are too many irons in the fire right now with balancing and bugs and even just getting the next warbond out. Then I think Illuminate will be higher priority than a super earth campaign.
Played Space Marines 2 yesterday, god damn that game is gorgeous, and its really thrilling but only for once, completed campaign for the lore purposes but thats about it
Another great video in the books lol. Lol i spent a grip on the soace marines 2. The 109 dollar bundle. It doesn't hit like hd2. Hopefully this update that comes on the 17th is kick ass and makes the game great again.
They won’t let the battle on Super Earth happen yet. Are they even done building Super earth yet? Will they have urban areas and cities? Because it would be kind of lame if we are fighting in the grassy hills or deserts of super earth. We can do that on other planets. Battle of super earth needs to be special in my mind.
Conspiracy theory- Less players = less server costs ( if they’re not making the costs balance between server costs and Warbond sales) Dev meeting, “let’s reduce player counts” we made our money, sales have bottomed, nerf the game, reduce the fun, JUST A COUPLE 100,000 players, we cut server costs and the game works with a 100,000 players” Top Dev says “Great idea do it”. Dev meeting a month later “Errm, that worked to well, can we get the players back please………. I’m not aware how much game servers and support staff etc. cost per month to support over £500,000 gamers when on releasing the game you’re expectations were less than 100,000 . but could these costs be draining the profits of arrowhead and they just too good a job of nerf the game and removing FUN factor which is why we play games?… Can one answer this?
protect presidents mansion can be on any planet... noone sayed its his only mansion... its his summer residence when he visits the far away planet to boost morale.. once a term...
I jumped into Space Marines 2. Had fun, it's a good game, but i can't lie... It doesn't hit like Helldiver's 2 did at it's peak. We desperately need that back
I **EXPECT** Disappointment Im not saying, its going to happen but BUUT **BUUUUUUUUT** This relationship. . .. **IS VERY** ABUSIVE For no reason! Sooo my expectations. . are correct
3:06 im loseing the fun, i log in i run maybe two missions (thats at best if i get a good random team) then switch over to one of the 7 other games on my system... Being getting back into Yakuza lately, gonna go back to Elden Ring, since my ps4 save won't translate over
I can t play 2 games in a row sometimes cant even get through 1 game without crash never had problems till last patch. everything they do messes something else up will be etched on this games tombstone
If on PC try verifying game files in Steam. On PSN try reinstall. On the PC version there's a known issue with one file getting corrupted/changed which completely screws up lobbies etc.
"Protect the president's mansion" You JUST found that? Iv heard of that before, along with protect the Presidents APC and stuff like that. But Yeah..... we really need some more URBANIZED maps. Cus as it stands we are basically fighting in Trailer parks or "prospecting" colonies. Cus all these "colonies" have are a bunch of random houses, a Airport and a Research lab and a bunch of mining Tunnels.
Honestly i wish they would bring back the MO specific missions. It feels like such a waste to do it once and never have the mission type come vack again. We're in desperate need of extra variety with objectives
Space marine 2 probably will be the best 3rd person shooter of the year but it is not HD2 and the only reason to keeps me stop playing HD2 is "I don't trust AH" and I don't think they play or test their game enough nor in time
I'm a bigger fan usually of fighting bugs but I've been doing my part on the bot front like any democratic diver should! For Super Earth! Also I can't express how incredibly stoked I am they reverted the flamethrower. I literally thought that would never happen and I'm so pumped to play the old flamethrower again!
12+ million people purchased this game. The counts are struggling at this point to stay above the 4 digit mark. Nobody wants to play ragdoll simulator past level 20.
There's no difference between console and PC games anymore. Matter of fact console has been getting the latest biggest games, stellar Blade, FF16, GTA, and so on. Definitely not like it used to be
Hopefully "flame based mechanics reverted" is total and complete. Using the flamethrower that collides with corpses and rocks on the ground, deflecting the flames straight up into the sky (super realistic), was not fun. I don't really see the point of increasing the damage though if they're reverting. The damage was fine before EOF.
I only play bugs because I like actually being on my feet. Lvl 82 over 500 hours. Let them get to superearth just so I can see how it looks to fight in cities and stuff 😂
There is nothing more satisfying than PVP MODE! Just drop in, look towards your fellow helldiver, and unleash hell! If they kick you just join a different lobby and do it again!
To the random guy I met on hd2 that recommended this podcast. How's it going! Big melee fan
That's super cool to hear!
One week till the patch
I'm worried they're buffing fire too much. It was great before the mechanics change. Now it might be too powerful.
@@Vuntermonkey"Overpowered weapons" is literally in the game's detail.
Do you know what overpowered is?
If our medals are capped...why are we grinding for nothing?? I don't even read the personal missions anymore.
Lot of people just want content from AH. But the situation is that the reworks IS the new content
indeed
Honestly, I’ll take the reworks as content for the time being if this is what they have to do to build the game back up.
Buffs means new viable weapons, which means fun stuff we already have that wasn’t great before is now viable
Yeah they're in an impossible place. The amount of noise about reverting nerfs (real and imagined) has combined with the justifiable concerns about serious bugs/crashes to push actual content release off the table. But now that the bugs and weapon buffs/nerfs are being focused on, the same element of the community has immediately switched to complaining about content. People will just have to accept that the changes they shouted long and hard for are the actual content for now.
What if Arrowhead added more bonuses to the armors? Make them a bit more useful.
I think that would be pretty smart.
heavy armor should prevent stagers and at least limit ragdolls... runing heavy armor as is now makes you slow target, you eat more rockets and more chargers/tentacles... in the end you ragdol about 2x as much with heavy armor than with light... which is bull and makes heavy armor borderline useless
Put passives on helmets maybe?
Love you guys. Keep it up. Hopefully I'll get to dive with y'all someday 🤣
best way to do that is to join us at SaltyNerdDiscord.com
I've never had an Xbox, so I downloaded Halo the MCC on my steam deck and have been playing through the campaign.
Played one game of HD the other day, got hit by a 380 bombardment, nowhere near any enemy and thought..nah, I'm ok and left xD
Best take on ps5 Pro yet...great technical information, price analysis and the channels perspective.great content as usual. Keep up the good work.
I have told butters for months on his streams that watching him always running around with empty mags bugs the shit out of me. I tell you thats the real reason why he likes using energy weapons, he never has to reload them.
This is True.
Good to see helldivers might bounce back id love to hop in again
💯 Agreed about Space Marine 2. Been playing the hell out of the game and it's fun but Helldivers 2 is a different experience that keeps me wanting more. Hoping this next patch brings more players back and the devs stop with their shenanigans in the future.
As long as we get NEW TERRAIN and going INSIDE BUILDINGS or Underground tunnels. Later in the future, of course. Gotta fix their released game every month.
That would be RAD!
Yeah Butters! The bar is high 😂 20k-30k is still constantly active when I'm on 😂
Just recruited my best friend to buy this game!!
That's awesome
Maybe the lucky charm booster is something like you get more luck in finding samples, slips and super credits on your map.
I'll take it!
Maybe even double samples, I mean it does have a sample design
50% of the playerbase never leaves bug side as an average.as for the 1/3 of bot players who dont go over to bug side, probably has something to do with the constant loss of territory on that side.
It literally took Joel putting the gloom mechanic in to put a dent in how hard the push on bug side has been.
And yet the big divers just gang up on the remaining planets instead of getting the hint
I’m telling you now, if there’s no planets to dive into on the bug side they just won’t play the game.
Get over it already.
Holy moly... It is Tuesday.
It’s Tuesday!
@@SaltyNerdGaming Taco Tuesday?
Totally forgot about tacos today.
im gonna wait until the buffs are mostly done and if player numbers go back above 100k before i pick it back up again.
458k > 20k
100k, wow, im not sure it will get quite that high. will be interesting to see. here hoping.
The biggest thing is the developers need to acknowledge that the player base wants to go back to Helldivers , Where the Helldivers are the best of the best, with the ability to be tanks and if necessary one man armies. Players want to be powerful even when we are supposed to be throwaway pawns.
Christ how many times does it have to be pointed out that the whole 'best of the best' thing is in-game propaganda. The reality in HD2 is that they're a bunch of expendable doofuses who literally get defrosted from a rack and thrown into the fray. Do you remember the training section? The way the little fireworks go off and you get your cloak confirming you're some elite soldier after about 10-15 minutes training? It's satire, which is part of what makes this have fun. Along with the Helldivers constantly blowing their comrades up alongside the enemy. So no, they are not supposed to be one-man armies (it's a co-op game...) nor are they the best of the best. This isn't HD1 and it's not supposed to be. Why some people cannot accept a game like this without this crazed power fantasy bullshit being satisfied is beyond me.
@quirinaled2752 Kid, you missed the point of my statement.
lol Battle for SUPEREARTH....FAILED...because it will be bots attacking and you know why you won't get the numbers needed.
I actually think bugs are boring and play bots only. I'm one of those 1/3 of players who doesn't play the other side's MO anymore 😂
I wanna play with you two , it would be hilarious!!! DKB-KILLIN-YOU on PSn would this be possible to link up in a squad together? I love the podcast I laugh the whole time, especially regarding HOLMGAN ( did I spell that right?) Vikings is the shit ❤️❤️❤️much love to yall
I'm currently very Botcentric.
Yeah I'm the problem on bug side. But that's because I love Kill it with fire tactics. Kinda Ironically that I prefer the arc thrower over the flamethrower. But both are useless on bot side so I don't go?
When we can do a fire nation duels with Hulks and fire is good against more than just the rocket/heavy devs I will play bots.
I will Agni Kai Tanks if fire is an option! So I hope the devs fix fire like they said.
Nope superearth will fall not bc no one fights on the bot side but bc they are cheap as f and keep defunding our guns
@SaltyNerdGaming did you unlock all the ship modules? What is your thoughts on the sample inflation for new ship module unlocks?
Dutch put it best, "there's other things out there". Cya in 7 days.
They need a “Defend the Settlement” mission with civilians running around in towns and fortifications.
A-Team's gonna do mansion protect mission: President turns out to be the last Cyborg, and he's been a prisoner.
sounds cool as hell
The 4 leaf clover will make samples Magically Delicious.
The lucky booster could be something like... maybe a small chance for enemy rockets to not detonate?
I love the intro turned into rock.
Gotta stylize everything helldivers
Space Marine is a good game, but it's definitely no Helldivers killer. I'll still be spreading democracy
Same here. I still fight for managed democracy ✊️
My main issue with Space Marine 2 is the PvE upgrade economy. There is a CHANCE that you may find the Servo-Skull or mini-boss that will grant you the material. I'm jumping between the first 2 difficulties and have barely found any materials required to upgrade my arsenal.
They couldn't have made the maps for inhabited cities yet. On Sept 17th...fix the game then announce 4 months to the Illuminate.
I thought the bots were moving in on the bugs. And then they were going to have a baby and we were going to have Terminator bugs to fight😂
I wish
Everyone, try and use the flame thrower now in its current state if you haven't. After the update try it again and see how much it should improve.
Also, ive never heard anyone use Grip to describe a Group before...
And PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE...REMOVE THE currency artificial caps!!!
Damn an irish tone to combat deep rock galactics dward atmosphere would make this game hilarious
Been on the bench since the nerf. Soon as its all fixed, im jumpin in and bringin the fury.
When the buff video dropped, I thought about you guys reaction about. I'm so glad you talked about it ❤
Insert offensive Norwegian accent*
Was on bots last time I played....now I understand your gripe....I like bugs....BUT when it's a MO....I go where I'm needed according to the MO 🎯💯
My war crime build isn’t complete without flames.
🚨 Always be cautious! Blindly trusting a company’s word can lead to unexpected risks. Do your research and stay informed! 🚨
Good take. People have some justifiable concerns about the state of the game. Basic things like social hub functionality and frequently-seen game crash bugs spring to mind. If they want these things fixed and weapon nerfs reversed in the short term, they just need to accept that this is what they're going to get for now, at the expense of the release of additional content in the short term.
i use sac amount instead of a grip
I can’t wait for the weapon fix ! I feel like the enemies are over loaded and overwhelming! , and I don’t have anything to fight them off ! I see that is causing people to constantly quit matches and it’s becoming a waist of time trying to find people to actually play the game correctly ! Dropping in the right place on the map attacking the right places first and working as a team seems almost impossible for the first five games until I find a decent crew to play with ! But having weapons and less time on stratagems would help
I think this 60 days update was a good thing. It gave us time to enjoy Space Marines 2 until the hype is over. After that players can share both games
They should add a weapon that's really overpowered, but due to it being rushed in production, it explodes and kills you randomly.
I think superearth fight will happen eventually but not anytime soon. There are too many irons in the fire right now with balancing and bugs and even just getting the next warbond out. Then I think Illuminate will be higher priority than a super earth campaign.
I went to helldivers 1 and I saw wen you lose super earth and literally it go to credits and start day 1 again in the war
Lucky charm booster better be critical damage chance
would be dope!
They could do 50 buffs and 0 nerfs... but what good is that if the game keeps crashing?!
Played Space Marines 2 yesterday, god damn that game is gorgeous, and its really thrilling but only for once, completed campaign for the lore purposes but thats about it
There are others games to play besides helldivers 2?
Adding a comment for the algorithm but had to bounce as I'm not interested in leaks. Great video
Another great video in the books lol. Lol i spent a grip on the soace marines 2. The 109 dollar bundle. It doesn't hit like hd2. Hopefully this update that comes on the 17th is kick ass and makes the game great again.
New booster is chance for critical hits on enemy
They won’t let the battle on Super Earth happen yet. Are they even done building Super earth yet? Will they have urban areas and cities? Because it would be kind of lame if we are fighting in the grassy hills or deserts of super earth. We can do that on other planets. Battle of super earth needs to be special in my mind.
One more week divers 🙏😭
Man I would love to play space marines but I got layed off so broke lol
Conspiracy theory- Less players = less server costs ( if they’re not making the costs balance between server costs and Warbond sales) Dev meeting, “let’s reduce player counts” we made our money, sales have bottomed, nerf the game, reduce the fun, JUST A COUPLE 100,000 players, we cut server costs and the game works with a 100,000 players” Top Dev says “Great idea do it”. Dev meeting a month later “Errm, that worked to well, can we get the players back please……….
I’m not aware how much game servers and support staff etc. cost per month to support over £500,000 gamers when on releasing the game you’re expectations were less than 100,000 . but could these costs be draining the profits of arrowhead and they just too good a job of nerf the game and removing FUN factor which is why we play games?…
Can one answer this?
I'm still fighting and hanging on.
He has a GRIP on SM2 now... ;)
protect presidents mansion can be on any planet... noone sayed its his only mansion... its his summer residence when he visits the far away planet to boost morale.. once a term...
The thumbnail on this video is fire 😂
it is a good one right. Dutch put on some weight though. lol
I jumped into Space Marines 2. Had fun, it's a good game, but i can't lie... It doesn't hit like Helldiver's 2 did at it's peak. We desperately need that back
Agreed man
I **EXPECT** Disappointment
Im not saying, its going to happen
but
BUUT
**BUUUUUUUUT**
This relationship. . ..
**IS VERY** ABUSIVE For no reason!
Sooo my expectations. . are correct
The video drop is the ex calling after a break up for you to help move a couch to try and fix the relationship
Yo there are a grip of comments
3:06 im loseing the fun, i log in i run maybe two missions (thats at best if i get a good random team) then switch over to one of the 7 other games on my system... Being getting back into Yakuza lately, gonna go back to Elden Ring, since my ps4 save won't translate over
Bugs never stopped us from having fun. It was our toys being ruined for us.
Good grip of us in the discord. Come grab ahold of some friends!
Good Grip of folks lol
Salty i'm with you on the battle for super earth, but i think it will be on october 26th
Any day is a good day to fight for Super Earth.
I can t play 2 games in a row sometimes cant even get through 1 game without crash never had problems till last patch. everything they do messes something else up will be etched on this games tombstone
If on PC try verifying game files in Steam. On PSN try reinstall. On the PC version there's a known issue with one file getting corrupted/changed which completely screws up lobbies etc.
"Protect the president's mansion" You JUST found that? Iv heard of that before, along with protect the Presidents APC and stuff like that.
But Yeah..... we really need some more URBANIZED maps. Cus as it stands we are basically fighting in Trailer parks or "prospecting" colonies. Cus all these "colonies" have are a bunch of random houses, a Airport and a Research lab and a bunch of mining Tunnels.
90 comments. This is the most I've seen on this channel. Nice.
Hell yeah brothers!
What’s up dudes!
I’ve never had a comment read out before. So cool. Thanks for liking my comment 😃
Keep up the great work
Thank you for watching!
Honestly i wish they would bring back the MO specific missions.
It feels like such a waste to do it once and never have the mission type come vack again. We're in desperate need of extra variety with objectives
Just realized I didn't sub smh!
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I hope this video gets a lot of likes. Nay! A GRIP OF LIKES!!!
Thats my era slang. A grip of ppl lol
Smh havent dived in weeks
I like the og name larvis
Dutch Butters needs to get a grip
Larvis
Space marine 2 probably will be the best 3rd person shooter of the year but it is not HD2 and the only reason to keeps me stop playing HD2 is "I don't trust AH" and I don't think they play or test their game enough nor in time
I'm a bigger fan usually of fighting bugs but I've been doing my part on the bot front like any democratic diver should! For Super Earth!
Also I can't express how incredibly stoked I am they reverted the flamethrower. I literally thought that would never happen and I'm so pumped to play the old flamethrower again!
12+ million people purchased this game. The counts are struggling at this point to stay above the 4 digit mark. Nobody wants to play ragdoll simulator past level 20.
Great click bait pic, y’all look awesome!
There's no difference between console and PC games anymore. Matter of fact console has been getting the latest biggest games, stellar Blade, FF16, GTA, and so on. Definitely not like it used to be
I'm not enjoying space marines at all tbh the PvP is cool I'm a helldiver at heart
Hopefully "flame based mechanics reverted" is total and complete. Using the flamethrower that collides with corpses and rocks on the ground, deflecting the flames straight up into the sky (super realistic), was not fun. I don't really see the point of increasing the damage though if they're reverting. The damage was fine before EOF.
I only play bugs because I like actually being on my feet. Lvl 82 over 500 hours. Let them get to superearth just so I can see how it looks to fight in cities and stuff 😂
I forgot about.
That game playing warhammer. Don't care about this game. No more
There is nothing more satisfying than PVP MODE! Just drop in, look towards your fellow helldiver, and unleash hell! If they kick you just join a different lobby and do it again!