It's actually Dinovalde. People just replace the o because it sounds better. I was just kidding though, you can call em' whatever you want. Just like I say Tamamitsune instead of Mizutsune.
I know how it was played in 3u. Gunning only should not be optimal obviously. I just feel like the other games went about nerfing the gunlance very poorly. And what is the point of a Gunlance if you can't gun the lance?
GunpowderCoffee You did gun the lance, you also used the lance itself if you were using it properly. 3U is the game GL was at its most balanced out of all the ones ive played.
I feel like these new styles are pretty hit or miss sometimes, honestly I don't mind that. having the extra styles can't hurt. My main problem with generations was the nerf to handicraft. It got old seeing only hellblade weapons +supercrit set. And I feel like other weapons had a lot of potential with handicraft. But come on 15 points for a skill that is already really hard to gem in was stupid in my opinion. The nerf to handicraft basically nerfed all the weapons that don't have natural white. And razor sharp got a pretty huge buff by getting absolute readiness give 20 hits back with it. I actually like razor sharp but I don't like that it basically replaced handicraft in this game. This is all coming from a dude who likes watching speedruns and sometimes dabbles in them himself. it's not a huge deal but I really hope they take out the handi +2 garbage or maybe at least go back to mhfu days and give it a 3 slot gem that gives you 4 points
Brave GL is likely gonna be my main when this comes out. It's had to sit on the sidelines in MHG after a lot of use in 3U and 4U. Gonna be good to go back to it with such an aggressive and over the top style.
1:46 ARE THOSE GUARD POINTS ON MY GUNLANCE?! *Continues watching video* Yeah, those are Guard Points on the Gunlance. You get one for every quick reload you do, the 1 shot reloads in normal mode and the 4 shot reloads of brave mode. Hopefully I'll be able to focus more on using the Gunlance in XX when it hits the west now that the motion values have been readjusted and with this absolutely ridiculous new style to play around with.
"I don't wide is seeing much love with this style" Proceeds to show how you can spam shells super fast and immediately reload most of them even faster... I am so using wide with this beast of a style. Charge shots were nice, but rapid shells are nicer.
If the rapid fire multiplier is true, load up maybe a good skill to pick for a wide brave lancer! And since you can rapid fire vertically, it makes it viable in multiplayer.
Damn, Brave GL looks sooo goood. Glad I made the Nakarkos GL recently, gonna need that extra long blue sharpness for this Style considering we can transfer our stuff over. Rapid Fire Shelling, fast Brave buildup, Guard Point on reload, and full burst spamming. My Nakarkos GL+ Star Rook set will shine. I should get used to Guild GL beforehand though, since with Brave I won't have the Aerial hop to help close gaps quickly.
The lack of a Charged Shot is seriously the best trade off. Even Wide type Gunlances didn't get enough out of Charged Shots for them to be worth using. They took roughly 100% longer to use for only a 20% or 45% buff in damage depending on shell type, which is absurd when doing an uncharged shell into a poke yields the same level of commitment for vastly superior damage. The chain bonus for shelling in succession is way better, even for Wide.
The charged shot bonus for Wide Shots was a 45% increase in damage, but took about double the time to use. A poke, on the other hand, dealt WAY more than just 45% of the damage of a shell, took about as long to do as an uncharged shell, and could be dodged out of. Thus, the entire benefit of using a charged shot was rendered pointless because there are better options elsewhere. In Brave Style, on the other hand, shells can be evaded out of, chained into one another, and chained shells receive a damage buff that stacks as more shells are fired! Two uncharged Wide shots chained together do well beyond what one charged Wide shot would. Capcom's official weapon's guide released just after the demo also tells us that Wide Gunlance can reload 2 shells with the quick flip in Brave Mode. On top of that, by pressing X+A after the quick flip in Brave Mode, the player can do a running upswing instead of the slam, thus allowing them to execute a shell chain instead of a Full Burst, or to just skip the upswing by pressing Y and then A to start a shell chain. If you want to know more about where I'm coming from with all this. Check these reddit threads out. The entire community over there is working really hard to get a better understanding of the new Gunlance, and it's awesome! Full Brave MHXX Gunlance Change Notes: www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/5u6g4z/mhxx_gunlance_demo_notes/ MHXX Damage Tests and Calculations: www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/5v6lr1/mhxx_gunlance_damage_tests_and_observations_in/ Capcom's Official Weapons Manual: www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/5ud4m4/mhxx_web_manual_is_up_for_more_detailed_weapon/
I would agree if not for my own experiences playing in the demo. I find that when chaining shells, I usually only time for two or three shots before recoil or monster movement makes continuing the chain impractical. There's also the fact that Wide shells have a naturally higher damage output, making the earlier shells in a chain have more to multiply. For that alone, I'm excited to see how terribly strong Wide will be in a Load Up set. Especially with shells being confirmed to have returned to their MH4U level of strength. 62 + 62*1.2 + 62*1.5 anyone? ;) I see Wide as more of a combo powerhouse that utilizes all of the tools within Brave to continue attacking non-stop. Anyway, this is getting away from what I was originally trying to say. I'm not trying to compare Wide with the other shell types. I'm just trying to explain that the Charged Shot was well worth the trade for... well, anything from Brave, really. Guard Points alone would have worth it, but it also got shell chaining, evades out of shells, infinite combos, etc.
Except that Wide doesn't suck. It just involves a different style of play that Brave is fully capable of accommodating. Brave has so many options in any given situation that none of the shell types are bad with it.
Rengrin sry I worded it wrong I forgot to say that it was my favorite in previous games but I knew I wasn't doing as much damage as if I used a different shot but now brave and you show me that it still should be my favorite thx
So I heard rumors released from JP quoted from some other dude: Shell damage is un-nerfed and reverted to 4U numbers. Heat gauge is still the same. Thrust damage appears to be the same, but there may be some slight alteration to slam and adept reload damage. Not certain yet. Brave shells get multipliers depending on how many of them you fire in a row. 1.0x/1.2x/1.6x/2.0x/2.6x. Full bursts also get a multiplier depending on the number of shells fired off. 0.9x/1.0x/1.2x/1.65x/1.75x These multipliers only affect the fixed damage portion of the shell, not the fire damage.
gaijin didn't mention this thing in video -reload in brave is not full reload it's just 4 shot -in normal hit y after brave cancel and hit a will get a relaod shot -wyvern shot can be use normally while in brave mode
So this seems good for Wide type gunlances, if I recall the Wide type has more powerful bursts so you can shell>quick reload>downsmash>burst>reload>etc
Sharpness is going to be a must for this thing. Unless they create a new skill that prevents anything other than direct attacks from reducing sharpness, which would be AWESOME!
I wish GL played like this in World. It's so much fun to play in GU (especially with Valor/Brave) because of the technical mechanics of it, with the heating up and Wyvern's Fire locking you in a certain level of heat. I also wish that Quick Reload had a guard point in World, because we all know GL needs something going for it in that game.
I love Gunlance, so based on this video, my initial impressions: - OOH, Guard Point on reload! I do like the idea of Guard Points on Gunlance, so YES PLEASE. - Hampered Full Reload? Hmm... Not sure how I feel about that. - "Can't charge shots" RIP Wide-type. - Hang on, shelling pushes the user back? Am I seeing that right? That hasn't always been the case, has it? Surely I'd have noticed that long ago if it did. That seems like... a bit of an odd change? I question if that would potentially help or hinder positioning. - That 'brave burst' as you're calling it, is that a standard shell, or is it charged, or what? If it's a plain old shell, that seems a bit silly, even if it IS really good for building the Brave Gauge. *And then Brave Mode* - OOH, THE QUICK RELOAD BECOMES A FULL RELOAD! (Oh, no, it's 4-shell reload. Oh well, still pretty close, and still really strong) AND IT STILL HAS THE GUARD POINT! Beautiful. That really cuts Gunlance's downtime right there-- OH, AND YOU CAN BACKSTEP OUT OF IT TOO! Wow, that is really, really fast. - RAPID SHELLING!!! AND IT GOES INTO THE QUICK RELOAD! - So you can do the quick reload, even if you're already reloaded, for the sake of the guard point, eh? That's nice. I'm no hardcore time attack hunter or whatever, but I thought that Gunlance was improved with generations, rather than nerfed. Even if the raw damage numbers were cut a little, all the extra options the styles and arts gave it already proved an immense boon to the weapon. Not to mention, Charge Blade's nerf was also an indirect buff to Gunlance, 'cause that weapon just completely eclipsed Gunlance, it was not even funny. Brave Style looks cool, I'll admit, although I would still like to see Gunlance also helped on a more fundamental level if possible.
Brave Gunlance is sick! At first I was really disappointed when it only reloads 1 shot at a time, but I believed the Brave Mode will be totally worth that small sacrifice, and boy... What a beastly weapon this thing has become. I've mained the Gunlance in MH4 and now it will become my main again in MHXX!! Can't wait for the full game already.
As someone who never really liked the gunlance I can say this will bring a lot of new gunlancers into the fray, daaang even I'm jealous now! Though, the recoil seems like it'll be annoying due to the lack of mobility. I hope we can see the other weapons though! I'm exited for bowguns and insect glaives, I've been maining a bowgun as of late and daaang I doubt it can get any better but I've been proven wrong with literally every brave style weapon I've seen. Also, is the alchemy style any good? #MHXXForTheWest Love your tutorials, Gaijin!
I've been a GunLance main since Freedom-2. Still a GunLance main in Gen, even though I can feel those nerfs hittin' me hard. VERY excited to just have those motion values back to what they were so I can wide-shell things into oblivion again.
It's funny, in 4U people argued that pokes are all that matters. In X/Gen they nerfed some things and then made people rely on shelling to deal top damage, but pokes are what really matters; it also has on average the 2nd lowest TA times out of the 15(including Prowler) weapons. In XX Brave GL is focused on Shelling and is ranking at or near the top for Speedruns of the Demo monsters. That's one hell of a leap.
Arhen Dante In 3U it was at its best imo, not in power but in playstyle, it was about comboing your shells into your pokes/slams etc it felt really fluent
Parthenox i second this. in 3U GL really shines. especially in those underwater battle which many people hate, i found no problem dueling against abyssal lagiacrus using GL underwater. on land also as mentioned, dancing around duelling lucent nargacuga with pokes n shells was really fluid and fun. definitely one of my fave weapon in 3U.
bufosp Exactly, not to mention it's the most online friendly it has ever been (aside from that 1 guy that always wyvern fired when you're charging your GS). Whereas if it's like what people are saying and it's all about shelling I don't think I'll be hunting with randoms.
Parthenox exactly. i think this is gonna be like striker lance in MHX/Gen. powerful and borderline broken in single hunt, but mostly annoying and almost unusable in multiplayer hunt.
GL is a hard weapon to master, as mastering doesn't just involve learning how to use the moves against a monster, but also how to use them in a way that doesn't disrupt other players(though if they run in front of you while you're using WF, that's on them). With Brave GL being as good as it is, it's going to have a lot of people picking it up and I'm not very hopeful that those people won't worsen the image of GL in multiplayer.
The Brave Shelling looks like something you'd want to do after the vertical rising slash. It looks like it knocks you back pretty far, so staying stable by shelling upward would be... silly.
I like to play both lances, but like the Funlance a bit more. I feel like MHXX is going to tip the scales. Seriously, that series of shells, that wonderful reload, the sheer amount of glorious explosions... MHXX main weapon confirmed.
I might of missed if you realized it doesn't load all 5 shells, but before this video was made I watched someone speed running Barroth with Gunlance and they only received 4 shells from the reloads. I'm not sure if this is intentional or not, but I'm sure it is to prevent Hunters from unloading 5 shots each and doing far too much shelling. Not to mention have those people who want to use all 5 shells have to do another reload.
so originally all I asked for Capcom was to revert the gunlance damage changes and make the heat system less punishing...and not only did they answer my prayers but they made gunlance a top tier weapon for a specific style
So it looks like Gunlance got buffed in general, not just through Brave Style? Glad to hear it. While it's not my favorite weapon, I do enjoy it. In MHG it felt like, regardless of how much I enjoyed it, I was putting in a lot of work for not a whole lot of return.
Sines314 Idk it looks about the same in terms of motion value outside shelling. Brave style definitely boosted it, but I'm not entirely sure of other styles.
The lack of things in Brave mode upsets me.. You shoot faster and get a fast full reload. Could we get like another section of the heat bar? Could we get a little dashy dash to make up for the slow movement speed? I played Gunlance in 4U and Aerial Gunlance in MHG. SnS gets all the flippy flips. Get we get some flips?
that is why i never bring cats with me when i use gl. Also, is the brave stance shelling (Y + A) not a charged shot? Because if it is, I see double barrel shotgunlancing in my future.
Used to like gunlance a lot on older MH, for some reason I just couldn't get the hang of the styles in gen but brave style is amazing, definitely will gunlance again!
Ive loved gunlance since mh2, and I always hated how it kinda dropped off after 3 for me, I guess cuz it was nerfed in 4, but if this is how its going to be I'm definitely going back to the old GL. I played the demo too didn't know about the super fast shelling, omg gunnery king on this will be insane
Dude, talk about the equal dragon weapon. I don't really understand much about it, and with it being in double cross, you should really let us know about it.
cool though i think that making our best moves harder to access and giving us a slower fast reload animation is a real nerf even if we did get our speed and older animations back from 4u but it is cool that they gave us a huge buff on our more common moves that we have to use when using a more complicated yet useful move is too inconvenient
ik this is a bit late but can u make a video on how to get or earn baby crown or crowns in general because i have a hard time researching online. It would be great if u do
It looks like the quick reload in brave mode only gives back 4 shells, so I wonder if the long and wide gunlance types will only get 2 and 1 shell reloading this way? I mean, this mode looks clearly oriented for normal gunlances anyways.
man, i'm really going to miss that second screen when i'm playing this on the switch, yeah the screen is bigger, but i liked the reduced clutter of the map and stuff being on the bottom. suppose i'm going to need to get used to it with world coming out
Well, IF this comes to the West, and if I replace my broken 3DS, I will be maining either Brave GS or Brave GL. Which one should I go with? I've worked DB, HH and Bow in the past, and have a little practice with GL from MHFU.
Finally, I've always felt the GL was over nerfed in Gen/X and it was still fun to use, just couldn't afford to miss Wyvern's Fire and Hunter Arts or you'd feel the loss in your hunt time but it was still awesome. I didn't try the GL in MH3U till near the release of 4U but even i noticed how it was always missing some very small things here and there in Gen/X. I'm super excited now and the west probably won't see it till next year - dammit lol
for the first time ever in monster hunter, you can finally use all 20 whetstones with you in a single hunt
Actually already did that with the fully upgraded Hellblade Dinovaldo's Lance in a hunt with 2 Drilltusk Tetsucabras Lv 10 with a friend and 2 cats.
Glavenus*
Moon Dinovaldo is his Japanese name
It's actually Dinovalde. People just replace the o because it sounds better. I was just kidding though, you can call em' whatever you want. Just like I say Tamamitsune instead of Mizutsune.
If you're using a Gunlance without Razor Sharp, you're either in Low Rank and can't get it yet or just plain doing it wrong. :P
I can see my teammates rolling across the ground already!
You're goddamn right!
Now I can go Michael Bay mode: "Sorry, can't hear teammates hating, my explosions are too loud"
Ranz you may not hear the hating, but unless you're blind you'll see the kick :)
I can't see you over the sound of my explosions.
There's always "Michael Bay" options in MH: Rapid Fire Crag, Rapid Fire Cluster, and the silly LBG that fires *Cannonballs*.
Parthenox I'll make my own room :^)
with black jack and hookers
Yoshi6400 what one is that?
So the gun-lance finally can be played as a *GUN*-lance.
*Yes.* Gimme!
Well, they sorta did it in MHP3 but it wasn't that well received. To be fair, it was a really sloppy way to play GL.
GunpowderCoffee It was a gun-lance in 3u...youd combo shelling into your hits and not just spam shots, if you played properly at least.
I know how it was played in 3u. Gunning only should not be optimal obviously. I just feel like the other games went about nerfing the gunlance very poorly.
And what is the point of a Gunlance if you can't gun the lance?
GunpowderCoffee You did gun the lance, you also used the lance itself if you were using it properly. 3U is the game GL was at its most balanced out of all the ones ive played.
most balanced in terms of gameplay i mean, it was incredibly fluid for a previously clunky weapon
4 Hunters
All GunLancers
All Brave styles
All normal type lances
It's 4th of July waiting to happen
"- Gaijin hunter and welcome..."
I hate that too man.
Here's to another game, another shot for Gunlance!
I see what you did there.
I feel like these new styles are pretty hit or miss sometimes, honestly I don't mind that. having the extra styles can't hurt. My main problem with generations was the nerf to handicraft. It got old seeing only hellblade weapons +supercrit set. And I feel like other weapons had a lot of potential with handicraft. But come on 15 points for a skill that is already really hard to gem in was stupid in my opinion. The nerf to handicraft basically nerfed all the weapons that don't have natural white. And razor sharp got a pretty huge buff by getting absolute readiness give 20 hits back with it. I actually like razor sharp but I don't like that it basically replaced handicraft in this game. This is all coming from a dude who likes watching speedruns and sometimes dabbles in them himself. it's not a huge deal but I really hope they take out the handi +2 garbage or maybe at least go back to mhfu days and give it a 3 slot gem that gives you 4 points
Brave GL is likely gonna be my main when this comes out. It's had to sit on the sidelines in MHG after a lot of use in 3U and 4U. Gonna be good to go back to it with such an aggressive and over the top style.
i think a set with artillery novice/expert and heavy polish is gonna be OP with that weapon in brave style
G rank. Artillery God is back.
Brad Hicks it was op before now it's going to be even more op... I just hope the monsters are harder now because the past games have been too easy.
1:46 ARE THOSE GUARD POINTS ON MY GUNLANCE?!
*Continues watching video*
Yeah, those are Guard Points on the Gunlance. You get one for every quick reload you do, the 1 shot reloads in normal mode and the 4 shot reloads of brave mode. Hopefully I'll be able to focus more on using the Gunlance in XX when it hits the west now that the motion values have been readjusted and with this absolutely ridiculous new style to play around with.
"I don't wide is seeing much love with this style"
Proceeds to show how you can spam shells super fast and immediately reload most of them even faster...
I am so using wide with this beast of a style.
Charge shots were nice, but rapid shells are nicer.
If the rapid fire multiplier is true, load up maybe a good skill to pick for a wide brave lancer! And since you can rapid fire vertically, it makes it viable in multiplayer.
Damn, Brave GL looks sooo goood. Glad I made the Nakarkos GL recently, gonna need that extra long blue sharpness for this Style considering we can transfer our stuff over. Rapid Fire Shelling, fast Brave buildup, Guard Point on reload, and full burst spamming. My Nakarkos GL+ Star Rook set will shine. I should get used to Guild GL beforehand though, since with Brave I won't have the Aerial hop to help close gaps quickly.
The lack of a Charged Shot is seriously the best trade off. Even Wide type Gunlances didn't get enough out of Charged Shots for them to be worth using. They took roughly 100% longer to use for only a 20% or 45% buff in damage depending on shell type, which is absurd when doing an uncharged shell into a poke yields the same level of commitment for vastly superior damage.
The chain bonus for shelling in succession is way better, even for Wide.
The charged shot bonus for Wide Shots was a 45% increase in damage, but took about double the time to use. A poke, on the other hand, dealt WAY more than just 45% of the damage of a shell, took about as long to do as an uncharged shell, and could be dodged out of. Thus, the entire benefit of using a charged shot was rendered pointless because there are better options elsewhere.
In Brave Style, on the other hand, shells can be evaded out of, chained into one another, and chained shells receive a damage buff that stacks as more shells are fired!
Two uncharged Wide shots chained together do well beyond what one charged Wide shot would. Capcom's official weapon's guide released just after the demo also tells us that Wide Gunlance can reload 2 shells with the quick flip in Brave Mode. On top of that, by pressing X+A after the quick flip in Brave Mode, the player can do a running upswing instead of the slam, thus allowing them to execute a shell chain instead of a Full Burst, or to just skip the upswing by pressing Y and then A to start a shell chain.
If you want to know more about where I'm coming from with all this. Check these reddit threads out. The entire community over there is working really hard to get a better understanding of the new Gunlance, and it's awesome!
Full Brave MHXX Gunlance Change Notes: www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/5u6g4z/mhxx_gunlance_demo_notes/
MHXX Damage Tests and Calculations: www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/5v6lr1/mhxx_gunlance_damage_tests_and_observations_in/
Capcom's Official Weapons Manual: www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/5ud4m4/mhxx_web_manual_is_up_for_more_detailed_weapon/
I would agree if not for my own experiences playing in the demo.
I find that when chaining shells, I usually only time for two or three shots before recoil or monster movement makes continuing the chain impractical. There's also the fact that Wide shells have a naturally higher damage output, making the earlier shells in a chain have more to multiply. For that alone, I'm excited to see how terribly strong Wide will be in a Load Up set. Especially with shells being confirmed to have returned to their MH4U level of strength. 62 + 62*1.2 + 62*1.5 anyone? ;)
I see Wide as more of a combo powerhouse that utilizes all of the tools within Brave to continue attacking non-stop.
Anyway, this is getting away from what I was originally trying to say. I'm not trying to compare Wide with the other shell types. I'm just trying to explain that the Charged Shot was well worth the trade for... well, anything from Brave, really. Guard Points alone would have worth it, but it also got shell chaining, evades out of shells, infinite combos, etc.
I love wide so that's good at least, I know it sucks major ass compared to long and normal but all the cool designs are wide so I can't help myself ;)
Except that Wide doesn't suck. It just involves a different style of play that Brave is fully capable of accommodating. Brave has so many options in any given situation that none of the shell types are bad with it.
Rengrin sry I worded it wrong I forgot to say that it was my favorite in previous games but I knew I wasn't doing as much damage as if I used a different shot but now brave and you show me that it still should be my favorite thx
MR TORGUE HERE I PERSONALLY ENHANCED THIS WEAPON AND I HAVE ONLY ONE QUESTION FOR YOU BADASSES: EXPLOSIONS?!
Not sure about Wyvern Fire, but I think you can still fire it at yellow. It locks out at orange sharpness if I'm not mistaken.
long live the funlance
You forgot to mention that the X combo goes on forever in Brave style.
So I heard rumors released from JP quoted from some other dude:
Shell damage is un-nerfed and reverted to 4U numbers.
Heat gauge is still the same. Thrust damage appears to be the same, but there may be some slight alteration to slam and adept reload damage. Not certain yet.
Brave shells get multipliers depending on how many of them you fire in a row.
1.0x/1.2x/1.6x/2.0x/2.6x.
Full bursts also get a multiplier depending on the number of shells fired off.
0.9x/1.0x/1.2x/1.65x/1.75x
These multipliers only affect the fixed damage portion of the shell, not the fire damage.
Gonna have to set one of my Chat commands to "I Believe I Can Fly" when I play with a Brave Gunlance user
First! (so you don't have to)
gaijin hunter damn, 5 seconds late... anyways, im eager to see brave IG (my main lol)
maybe this weekend
same, IG ftw
gaijin hunter So, the "quick reload" in brave mode reloads 4 shells? Is that correct?
Loving the videos man, keep up the good work!
it wasn't a "Full Reload" in Brave mode it was a quick 4 shells, not full, would like to point that out
Really glad I picked up Gunlance last year.
Soon™
so many vids in one day, my heart can't take it
Holy crap, fellow gunlancers, our time is nigh!
gaijin didn't mention this thing in video
-reload in brave is not full reload it's just 4 shot
-in normal hit y after brave cancel and hit a will get a relaod shot
-wyvern shot can be use normally while in brave mode
Oooh yes one of my mains gets ridiculous
ridiculous....ly eat wheatstone. but damn those explosion, this is my main weapon in MHFU, can't wait to play it, lately it was really underwhelming.
last mh i played was 3U, so im really looking forward to all these different play styles.
Ahmad Nieves I was just gonna send you this video lol
ZeroPR Im on top of this shit lol.
Laughs in Ukanlos GL
Hey Gaijin, what are your opinions on the equal dragon weapon?
Now just hope there'll be a new skill that prevent GL friendly fire so it can be used online.
The quick wyvern's fire is just the normal way but while brave mode is active. Also, the brave cancel wyvern's fire gives you so much guage.
So this seems good for Wide type gunlances, if I recall the Wide type has more powerful bursts so you can shell>quick reload>downsmash>burst>reload>etc
finally my main weapon getting something good
Sharpness is going to be a must for this thing. Unless they create a new skill that prevents anything other than direct attacks from reducing sharpness, which would be AWESOME!
I wish GL played like this in World. It's so much fun to play in GU (especially with Valor/Brave) because of the technical mechanics of it, with the heating up and Wyvern's Fire locking you in a certain level of heat. I also wish that Quick Reload had a guard point in World, because we all know GL needs something going for it in that game.
Gunlance for life
i so jealous!!! we probably have to wait 1 year again :'(
I love it.
Finnaly, GL is worth playing again... once this hits the west, that is.
best intro 10/10. would hit replay again.
This thing with Normal Shots with Artillery God is gonna be filthy.
It looks like they integrated the GuardPoint glitch from P3rd where having Auto-Guard causes each fast reload to automatically guard all the time. :)
I love Gunlance, so based on this video, my initial impressions:
- OOH, Guard Point on reload! I do like the idea of Guard Points on Gunlance, so YES PLEASE.
- Hampered Full Reload? Hmm... Not sure how I feel about that.
- "Can't charge shots" RIP Wide-type.
- Hang on, shelling pushes the user back? Am I seeing that right? That hasn't always been the case, has it? Surely I'd have noticed that long ago if it did. That seems like... a bit of an odd change? I question if that would potentially help or hinder positioning.
- That 'brave burst' as you're calling it, is that a standard shell, or is it charged, or what? If it's a plain old shell, that seems a bit silly, even if it IS really good for building the Brave Gauge.
*And then Brave Mode*
- OOH, THE QUICK RELOAD BECOMES A FULL RELOAD! (Oh, no, it's 4-shell reload. Oh well, still pretty close, and still really strong) AND IT STILL HAS THE GUARD POINT! Beautiful. That really cuts Gunlance's downtime right there-- OH, AND YOU CAN BACKSTEP OUT OF IT TOO! Wow, that is really, really fast.
- RAPID SHELLING!!! AND IT GOES INTO THE QUICK RELOAD!
- So you can do the quick reload, even if you're already reloaded, for the sake of the guard point, eh? That's nice.
I'm no hardcore time attack hunter or whatever, but I thought that Gunlance was improved with generations, rather than nerfed. Even if the raw damage numbers were cut a little, all the extra options the styles and arts gave it already proved an immense boon to the weapon. Not to mention, Charge Blade's nerf was also an indirect buff to Gunlance, 'cause that weapon just completely eclipsed Gunlance, it was not even funny.
Brave Style looks cool, I'll admit, although I would still like to see Gunlance also helped on a more fundamental level if possible.
Brave Gunlance is sick! At first I was really disappointed when it only reloads 1 shot at a time, but I believed the Brave Mode will be totally worth that small sacrifice, and boy... What a beastly weapon this thing has become.
I've mained the Gunlance in MH4 and now it will become my main again in MHXX!! Can't wait for the full game already.
As someone who never really liked the gunlance I can say this will bring a lot of new gunlancers into the fray, daaang even I'm jealous now!
Though, the recoil seems like it'll be annoying due to the lack of mobility.
I hope we can see the other weapons though!
I'm exited for bowguns and insect glaives, I've been maining a bowgun as of late and daaang I doubt it can get any better but I've been proven wrong with literally every brave style weapon I've seen.
Also, is the alchemy style any good?
#MHXXForTheWest
Love your tutorials, Gaijin!
God Lance is back to its glory days.
Brave gunlance and Adept SnS (w/ chaos oil) look disgustingly powerful... I love it!.
*inner Megumin intensifies*
The uploads are real
I've been a GunLance main since Freedom-2. Still a GunLance main in Gen, even though I can feel those nerfs hittin' me hard.
VERY excited to just have those motion values back to what they were so I can wide-shell things into oblivion again.
It's funny, in 4U people argued that pokes are all that matters. In X/Gen they nerfed some things and then made people rely on shelling to deal top damage, but pokes are what really matters; it also has on average the 2nd lowest TA times out of the 15(including Prowler) weapons. In XX Brave GL is focused on Shelling and is ranking at or near the top for Speedruns of the Demo monsters. That's one hell of a leap.
Arhen Dante In 3U it was at its best imo, not in power but in playstyle, it was about comboing your shells into your pokes/slams etc it felt really fluent
Parthenox i second this. in 3U GL really shines. especially in those underwater battle which many people hate, i found no problem dueling against abyssal lagiacrus using GL underwater. on land also as mentioned, dancing around duelling lucent nargacuga with pokes n shells was really fluid and fun. definitely one of my fave weapon in 3U.
bufosp Exactly, not to mention it's the most online friendly it has ever been (aside from that 1 guy that always wyvern fired when you're charging your GS). Whereas if it's like what people are saying and it's all about shelling I don't think I'll be hunting with randoms.
Parthenox exactly. i think this is gonna be like striker lance in MHX/Gen. powerful and borderline broken in single hunt, but mostly annoying and almost unusable in multiplayer hunt.
GL is a hard weapon to master, as mastering doesn't just involve learning how to use the moves against a monster, but also how to use them in a way that doesn't disrupt other players(though if they run in front of you while you're using WF, that's on them).
With Brave GL being as good as it is, it's going to have a lot of people picking it up and I'm not very hopeful that those people won't worsen the image of GL in multiplayer.
GL was the first weapon I ever tried in a Monster Hunter game, glad to see it getting some love.
I don't get how the Gunlance was "broken" when around 5-6 other weapons could out damage it back in MH4U. The nerfs were completely undeserved.
The Brave Shelling looks like something you'd want to do after the vertical rising slash. It looks like it knocks you back pretty far, so staying stable by shelling upward would be... silly.
As a Funlance Main the motion value change back is such a beautiful duwang that it got me feeling some kind of way.
I like to play both lances, but like the Funlance a bit more. I feel like MHXX is going to tip the scales. Seriously, that series of shells, that wonderful reload, the sheer amount of glorious explosions... MHXX main weapon confirmed.
I might of missed if you realized it doesn't load all 5 shells, but before this video was made I watched someone speed running Barroth with Gunlance and they only received 4 shells from the reloads. I'm not sure if this is intentional or not, but I'm sure it is to prevent Hunters from unloading 5 shots each and doing far too much shelling. Not to mention have those people who want to use all 5 shells have to do another reload.
so originally all I asked for Capcom was to revert the gunlance damage changes and make the heat system less punishing...and not only did they answer my prayers but they made gunlance a top tier weapon for a specific style
Heavy and light gunlance confirmed
As a gunlance fan, this looks INCREDIBLE
So it looks like Gunlance got buffed in general, not just through Brave Style? Glad to hear it. While it's not my favorite weapon, I do enjoy it. In MHG it felt like, regardless of how much I enjoyed it, I was putting in a lot of work for not a whole lot of return.
Sines314 Idk it looks about the same in terms of motion value outside shelling. Brave style definitely boosted it, but I'm not entirely sure of other styles.
Ahhh I can already see the bodies of my teammates rolling across the screen... Brings a tear to my eye :')
WOOH! GUNLANCE IS BACK BABY!!!
Hey dude, you mention the top speedrun times in the beginning of the vid; was just wondering where I could find a list of said times?
I believe he means 8TruuCcBWY4
Its the fastest I could find, anyways
Was looking for more of a list with all the weapons and their respective times, but thanks for this!
Garrus thank you so much!
I wonder if Wide is really shun from brave or not. That brave burst might be the charge shot replacement when it comes to wide.
damn, looks like brave Gunlance is gonna eat more whetstones than a db user spamming demon dance on dash juice
Just thinking about that hurts me inside
The lack of things in Brave mode upsets me.. You shoot faster and get a fast full reload. Could we get like another section of the heat bar? Could we get a little dashy dash to make up for the slow movement speed? I played Gunlance in 4U and Aerial Gunlance in MHG. SnS gets all the flippy flips. Get we get some flips?
that is why i never bring cats with me when i use gl. Also, is the brave stance shelling (Y + A) not a charged shot? Because if it is, I see double barrel shotgunlancing in my future.
Cant wait till the cat. I wanna hear his reaction to the cat so bad. He always said he wanted a vaiable melee cat, and that thing is THE melee cat.
Used to like gunlance a lot on older MH, for some reason I just couldn't get the hang of the styles in gen but brave style is amazing, definitely will gunlance again!
have you seen the new double cross trailer showcasing each of the new hunter arts in action?
Ive loved gunlance since mh2, and I always hated how it kinda dropped off after 3 for me, I guess cuz it was nerfed in 4, but if this is how its going to be I'm definitely going back to the old GL. I played the demo too didn't know about the super fast shelling, omg gunnery king on this will be insane
I feel like being able to rapid fire 2 shells and then get a guard point wit your reload could be devastating with wide
Would brave still be viable for spread shot lances?
Dude, talk about the equal dragon weapon. I don't really understand much about it, and with it being in double cross, you should really let us know about it.
the hunter's hand is broken from reloading that gunlance
Brave style seems to be what the gunlance always should have been. I'm very interested in seeing how it'll affect the other shell types!
are you going to do a video demonstrating alchemy style?
cool though i think that making our best moves harder to access and giving us a slower fast reload animation is a real nerf even if we did get our speed and older animations back from 4u but it is cool that they gave us a huge buff on our more common moves that we have to use when using a more complicated yet useful move is too inconvenient
A quick question. How is Aerial Gunlance? Is it finally a Ful Burst spamming machine without overheating like an Agnaktor on fire?
ik this is a bit late but can u make a video on how to get or earn baby crown or crowns in general because i have a hard time researching online. It would be great if u do
It looks like the quick reload in brave mode only gives back 4 shells, so I wonder if the long and wide gunlance types will only get 2 and 1 shell reloading this way? I mean, this mode looks clearly oriented for normal gunlances anyways.
Mighty Bear it's 4 shells in general for all shot types.
Thank you :o
+gaijin hunter
you can also have a melee infinite..
poke poke slam chains into poke again
Are we going to get LBG/HBG? I know you arent a big fan of them. I wish I knew about the new ammo types too.
it even has a guard point while reloading? that's pretty neat
man, i'm really going to miss that second screen when i'm playing this on the switch, yeah the screen is bigger, but i liked the reduced clutter of the map and stuff being on the bottom. suppose i'm going to need to get used to it with world coming out
What I would love is a shieldless version of this.
*goat scream*
ohmygodohmygodohmygodohmygod YES
Well, IF this comes to the West, and if I replace my broken 3DS, I will be maining either Brave GS or Brave GL. Which one should I go with? I've worked DB, HH and Bow in the past, and have a little practice with GL from MHFU.
I pretty much dropped GL hard in X
it just lacked a lot of things, even with Adept
This may bring me back
Back to glory indeed!
Might I ask why are you doing unedited/unscripted footage for brave showcase?
ohhhh, thats the good stuff right there, definitely maining GL again
Finally, I've always felt the GL was over nerfed in Gen/X and it was still fun to use, just couldn't afford to miss Wyvern's Fire and Hunter Arts or you'd feel the loss in your hunt time but it was still awesome. I didn't try the GL in MH3U till near the release of 4U but even i noticed how it was always missing some very small things here and there in Gen/X. I'm super excited now and the west probably won't see it till next year - dammit lol
I think this can be good with long shot gunlances. Can snipe down flying raths and kite various monsters with this.
brave mode and the new malfestio gl has me hyped for xx. i just wish that gl got the dash evade to make up for it's movement. oh well...
gaijinhunter the quick "full reload" only loads 4 bullets.
Brave mode + Broken mode XD I think Brave mode is going to be serious fun.
I already loved GL, now they made it more OP and look more awesome!?
I NEED THIS GAME NOW!
#MHXXForTheWest
HEY GAIJIN! You should do a playthrough of MH4U/3U/X/XX(when it comes out in the west).
thank you Capcom
I mean you don't have to do the brave input to do the wyvern fire just do it normally and it'll be twice as fast
I am suddenly very hyped.