As an owner of the Honda CBR 650r, 2019 edition, the clutch is so light but I guess you could add an adjustable lever, I do agree with that. I'll be honest on mine, as I've done almost 3000 miles, the gearing really clunks into place for me. On the motorway/highway, you can easily do 100Mph + comfortably with no worries and if you are in the right rev range, 8000+ and above, it will pull really good. In the corners it basically just falls over. Personally I think it's a really polished machine, maybe a little too refined maybe. The bike essentially is perfectly good at everything, but it doesn't stand out in any specific way. Perfect for an upgrade from a smaller capacity bike. I ride this bike everyday and I've done almost 3000 miles on it, but I love every minute, its a bike you can basically ride in whichever way you like, aggressive or chilled out, and I've done over 200miles in one trip and it's super comfortable. I also love that induction noise! Also outro crew rating for me as an owner - 8/10
Damnit I'm conflicted now. I've been riding a Honda ctx700n and want to upgrade within the next year. Really liking the gsxs750 but now this is on my radar.
I bought this bike 3 weeks ago. I agree the clutch has zero feel, but personally I like it. It’s the lightest clutch lever pull I’ve ever felt. The handle bars and foot pegs do buzz a little bit at higher RPMs but acceptable. The best things about this bike are: radial mounted calipers, inverted forks, ram air, in-line 4 cylinder. Those are the things that make it feel like a super sport. Honestly I am very happy with it. Sure it’s not the fastest thing in the market, but it’s a very focused bike with a purpose. I’m glad you got to ride it Chase!
Milo Milo yes this is a pretty decent long distance bike. I’ve went on a 100 mile ride recently and it did great. It’s good on the freeway and great in the twisty mountains.
@@theGizmo100 it can be used as a first bike if you’re sensible. Still probably best to get a 300 for a month or two. The 650 is pretty expensive so if you drop it you’re kinda fucked
It is really awesome as a second bike, but honda made a better bike ,CBR 600RR for the sport, but as a sport tourer, it really good, the inline 4 gives it a bad low end torque , still ok.
If your friends know absolutely nothing about bikes, they'll think this is one of the fastest bikes out there, simply because of the way it looks. I love it!!!
@No_Name yep, at 98 HP, and weighing less than 400 lbs you’re still going to be the fastest thing on the road 98% of the time. Heck if you have a Ninja 400, you’re going to be the fastest thing on the road at-least 75% of the time.
Nice production quality as always Chase. A couple of things I want to mention about this bike, I own the naked version but I currently have the CBR on loan from Honda. I find the clutch really nice on these, really light but you can definitely tell when it's biting. Mirrors are fine, you just need to adjust them. To get the supersport experience, you have to rev this bike out. Gear low, revs high and this bike is a real hoot. It's a proper everyday sports bike. Here in the UK the bike is ridiculously cheap too, under £8k making it much more attractive. Ride safe brother, peace! EBD
@atharvakamat313 Honda and yamaha knows our india very well...we hate them about pricing and products,but they cater to practicality aspect much more than other brands, thatz what I blv...and am gonna stay with yamaha or Honda for future motorcycles😊
I've owned this bike since August of '19...LOVE it. Upgraded from a 2016 CB500X (changed riding styles?) The bike is pretty good at anything, but not perfect at anything...that being said, it's perfect at being good at everything. Efficient for a daily commute (I do everyday, to and from work), comfy enough for a nice, long cruise, and power when I want it to get away from all the a**holes on the road. It handles corners nicely, too! Fun bike overall, glad I made the purchase on it.
Bro, you can still see the colored lines on the tires. You know they're brand new and won't have any grip. Also, the clutch is by cable, and you can for sure adjust how it feels.
noobasdfjkl all that stuff can be adjusted. Mirrors buttons clutch break all that stuff can be customized. People don’t know that and it’s annoying because they judge the bike off that stuff. It’s like wtf
Moving up from a 300 I wanted a supersport but didn't want a track-focused super-weapon. After looking around I found this to be a perfect compromise of a supersport and a 650 class bike without sacrificing too much on either end. Huge plug for me is it's still geared towards performance with the high revving I-4 + plus it doesn't sound like a lawn mower. This just solidified my feelings, love this bike! Coming for it soon!
@@pocketpunch9920 they're definitely not meant to be ridden like a cruiser. I've never taken a trip longer than a couple of hours, anything more and you really have to pull off and relax for a bit
Sometimes, you can hear in a person's voice when they aren't overly excited about riding a bike...but, if you have the luxury of riding literally hundreds of different bikes so that you can truly know what tickles your fancy, I guess this is not a bad thing lol
I have the late 2016 version of this bike (it’s basically identical, they’ve just changed the body shapes, dash, etc. and yes I have driven both!) - it’s the stock levers you’re hating. PLEASE don’t judge this bike on the levers!!! I replaced mine with aftermarket adjustables a week after buying this bike and the difference is phenomenal (I also have tiny hands so...). I know exactly how you’re feeling with that clutch and even after adjusting the cables repeatedly, I still struggled and wasn’t happy, so decided to give aftermarkets a shot and everyone else I’ve recommended changing them to, have noticed the difference which is ridiculous! I’ve done over 50,000 miles on this bike so far and do 400+ miles commuting every weekend here on the UK, in all weathers, so I will definately say this is a great bike for commuting! The stock tyres on this bike are also not great and they eat nails, etc. - mine are currently Michelin Pilot Road 5’s but previously had the Metzeler 01’s and both were such an improvement. It’s such a super stable bike! Pillions are also happy on it :) I’m a fairly short female and my partner (male) rides on the back sometimes and has no complaints even after 100 miles. The only thing I disagree on (sorry!) is the lack of good engine breaking as I use this all the time and have never had an issue with it not being good enough for general use, but that might just be me XD Great to see this review from you, as have been waiting for you to test this bike for ages, so thanks!
The engine is tuned to take regular fuel and fuel economy. I find inline 4s with lighter valve springs tend to do better in fuel economy but vibrate more as a result.
Bike is a gem honestly, really versatile and great for the street rider and commuter. But still advantageous enough for some spirited riding and comfortably at that. Inline four as well, sheeesh let's be honest here I love this bike. Good review, feel like you missed the ball on some great points about this bike that would have made it a great review. Luv ya
All I hear is contradiction and drivel. "The bike makes me want a supersport experience but the engine doesn't deliver." Yet, "The riding position isn't quite super sport, but not as relaxed..." then later "Yeah, this bike is a lot more like a super sport" So which is it? Also, the engine revs out 12,800 rpm, yet you complain about it not delivering a super sport like experience when you barely scratch 8000rpm really early into the review. As for the clutch - It has a Slipper and Assist clutch, which is why it feels so light. I didn't once see you screw up a clutch engagement... Maybe, and hear me out, just maybe, you aren't used to it?
Totally possible my dude. In my First Ride videos they are just that. A First Ride and during them I'm working out my feelings on the bike and how I feel about it. Its not unheard of for my opinion to change as the video goes on.
@@chaseontwowheels I can't fault that as it is a literal "Ride review." I would say that it may be a good idea to ride the bike before recording to help formulate full opinions, then do a second ride to record and then express those opinions when they are fully formed. Some of your observations about this bike were spot on, and others just seemed... odd. Something to conclude about this bike that was a missed opportunity, for example, was that this is a great beginner/learner track bike that can also be a better daily than a full on super sport 600.
@@OddBallPerformance - Why develop full impressions first? That would be a review. This is a first ride... aka "This is what you might feel or think your first time on it." I like the format.
I've been riding over 12 years on over 30 different bikes and I can't wait to get this and add to my collection. This bike is the modern version of the F4i which was wanted for years. I think Honda hit it right on the nail with this one and I absolutely love the way it looks.
Its exactly what I think, its very like a 90s supersport in its position and power ect. You know when 600s sold like hotcakes before they got ever more extreme and unusable
Once again, like in the Ninja 650 video, slip assist clutch not mentioned. I would think that might affect the way you interpret the clutch and the engine braking. 😉
You can upgrade the clutch springs, but on this bike is a slipper clutch so it's suppose to be soft. Those type of clutch are easy to use for beginners.
@@m.rraghav817 Have riden them all and totally agree with You,. In the end I have purchased Kawi as I wanted a faired bike, but if Suzuki would have had modern S version with a fairing, would go for Suzuki as love it's engine and suspension.
Hello there Mr. Chase, it's just a recommendation from me. Every time you felt like going to ride a motorcycle for the "First Ride" series, make sure you set/adjust/request the clutch lever to be your preference settings/adjustments. So you can have equal/similar clutch feeling for all the motorcycles you're going to ride and better at judging them. Cheers...!! 😁
It’s a slipper clutch. That’s why it’s so easy to pull and has light engine breaking. You can adjust the engagement point with the cable to get it where you want it.
Putting a heavier set of springs in the clutch can improve the feel somewhat, aka make the pull a bit heavier at the lever, it has an added benefit of giving the plates more grab when fully closed, but it depends if these are available in the aftermarket. It also requires removing the clutch from inside the engine.
Chase, I love your reviews and have watched many over the last few weeks all the while shopping for the correct bike. Today, I’ve found a 600r discounted very heavily and within my price range. Your review many have steered me away from this model due to a few issues; clutch, peg positioning, low range torque, wind screen setup, turn signal positioning. In short, your words hold more weight than you may know. It may be best for everyone (viewer included) to have you critique the bike later in the ride, possibly atleast till you’ve driven on highway. Several reviews (including this one) you went from not so good to really nice. On a site note, I spent a few years reviewing restaurants and small businesses. I love what you’ve been offering, however wish you would hold off negatively critiquing until further into the ride. That way we get an overall view on a scale of 1:10; something a little more measurable. See Ya’h round
Really digging the looks of this. Like, REALLY digging it. It would be my choice for sure, but I'm a Honda fanboy so my opinion is horrifically biased. 🤣
Please no ... the N650 stands alone with a torquey twin with fairings and comfy body position. You've got a million inline-4s to choose from already ...
Just prefer the sound, personal preference though 🔥 I'm currently daily commuting (50miles/80km) with a r3 and looking for something different that's not a parallel twin.
xorbe2 this bike has a very comfortable position compared to a ZX6R, R6, or CBR600RR. The CBR650R is basically the same chassis style as a Ninja, neutral riding position, it just adds a screaming i4 into the mix...
@@shogoracing4294 I've ride it 2 months (made 3,000km), I loved the engine, super smooth and predictable but had a great punch from 4,500 RPM to 6,000 RPM (it was an A2 Restricted version, 47,5 HP, then it felt empty), the clutch was strange but ok. The chassis was brilliant, first time I rode it, it felt like I ride it for years, super point for Honda. The Showa suspension were really good, even for a beginner like me, it was hard to get another bike with this kind of level. For the position, I'm 1,90m tall, felt cramped but it wasn't that bad (I did a good afternoon doing sports ride with friends, it was ok). The only negative point for me were the engine (only if its the restricted version, full, its another story !) the rear brake, I used it a lot, never had a good feeling with it and the ground clearance wasn't that good. I couldn't keep this bike because the insurance costed more than we agreed, but it was a really good "first sport bike", but I consider this CBR more like a "GT", or a "road sport" bike. PS : Sorry for the bad english, not my first language at all :/
@@speedz5771 Thanks for sharing your experience! GT/ Sport road sport bike sounds about right. That’s moreso what I’m looking for myself although I’ve owned several bikes throughout the years. My very first bike was the Honda CBR250R. Not sure what others say, but to me it was a fun bike. I did grow tired of it after a few months of serious riding, but imagine that the CBR650R might be a bike that one could enjoy for years. Now the bike that I truly enjoyed test riding was the Triumph Street Triple 765 R. THAT bike is a blast to ride! The only thing is that I’m still considering the Honda (despite being of a different class of bikes) since they are known to be more reliable... I can do a few things here and there, but certainly am not a mechanic. Hopefully you’ll find a bike that you love.
@@shogoracing4294 Thanks for your response ^^ I did found a bike I absolutly loved, it was the 790 Duke, I had it for 6 month, but unfortunelty, I had a hard crash, the 790 was dead and I was extremely lucky that the only wound I got was a broken wrist. I have to wait atleast 1 year to ride again, but I already know what bike I'll ride again . Be safe man ;)
Death Wish83 yes but this bike comes stock with a slipper clutch with a lighter clutch pull, the F model that I have has the old clutch and a much harder pull getting stuck in gridlock on the highway was a bitch
This bike is fantastic for people in the UK. This is because people with an A2 license can ride it. This is the ONLY (new) sport bike you can ride in the UK on an A2 license. Its a gift for us
GUYS! If anyone here is thinking about buying this bike, I'll give you one piece of advice: get new gearing for it. Either go 1 tooth down in the front (easier) or 2 up in the rear (a little more difficult, not much). It changes it from a bike that sucks in the city and ONLY is awesome on the motorway, to something at is very nice to ride everywhere. Changing the gears make it more powerful & torquey in the lower-end powerband and makes it feel more like a 2 cylinder/linear powerband down low. Your top speed (in 6th gear) goes down by maybe 5-10km/h but it feels WAY better to drive daily. Just do some research about what im saying and you'll get why I'm telling you this. It transforms the bike from okay to amazing by changing one thing!
Clutch needs adjusting to suit your preference. Its super smooth, so smooth that you can set off from a stand still without touching the throttle. If you want to feel the torque, you need to open the throttle, the ecu is set so that 25% throttle IS actually 25% throttle. Cbr - 10. Ninja650 - 7. Sv - 5.
They nailed the looks and the bars/tank height are spot-on. I'm guessing the waistline cut-out on the windscreen fairing is for clip-on clearance. I wish it had a more solid cockpit windscreen like the R3 (but maybe the fairing would've been too high (??). I'm searching for double bubble screen pics now.
It has a quickshifter if fitted and traction.control, I have it with Akrapovic and ECU tune totally different bike, without tune the six gear was useless, no abs is silly, clutch is totally fine, I rarely use it anyway. Btw stock this bike has 69.7hp on the rear wheel and runs at 18-19:1 air ratio..Now at 2500miles on it after two months..
I think you need to consider insurance cost in this comparison. The CBR650R is double the price of the Ninja 650 and SV650X for me to insure. I really like the CBR, but the insurance is the same as a ZX-6R or R6. Though I get what you're saying, the CBR is a great option as a comfortable slightly less than super sport bike.
Torque and horsepower are not just different colors of M&Ms, Chase. Torque is just the twisting force(on the crankshaft) an engine creates when combustion occurs. If enough torque(twisting force) is created(if the crankshaft rotates) then an engine can successfully move the vehicle by generating POWER. Power is torque multiplied by rpm(divided by 5,252 when using the standard system, but that’s not super important to grasp the concept here). POWER is what makes the vehicle GO. It’s also the thing that makes the vehicle GO TO A HIGHER TOP SPEED, OR ACCELERATE FASTER, if more power is made in identical conditions. TORQUE output will be higher at certain RPMs than others, due to I.C.E.s having a relatively narrow range of efficient operation. Engineers must decide where to make each engine most effective at TORQUE production, and since TORQUE tires RPM is POWER, that range is where the engine will pull the hardest. Again, TORQUE at individual rpms will also vary with each engine design and even between identical engines off the assembly line. If you design the bike for peak power(super sport), you’ll lose some of that power at low revs that a dual sport, cruiser, or naked would have(with the same displacement and such. POWER can be made by either more TORQUE, or more RPMs, it’s that simple. The engine is always producing TORQUE and POWER. THEY ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE! Please get educated on basic things like these, because I guarantee people make decisions based on the words you say. Stop muddying the water on such a fundamental part of being a rider or driver. Also, that CBR650R makes 93.9bhp at 12,000rpm, and 47ft-lbs at 8,500. That means it’s making 76.1bhp at 8,500rpm, and 41.1ft-lbs at 12,000. Again, that CBR650R makes more power at 8,500 than either of these two bikes make in their entire respective rev-ranges(Ninja makes 67bhp at 8,000, SV650 makes 75bhp at 8,500) and the CBR still has 50% more rev-range to go through. That said, shorter gears on the SV and Ninja can make it feel closer in power output to the CBR, until those highway speeds/gears. I really hope you understand this now, because I’ve watched your videos for years, and this misinformation really has to stop.
Bought one a few weeks ago, yes the riding position is not the best, lower body feels like naked bike, but upper body is more aggressive than naked bike position. So wt I did was I bought new rear foot set which is higher than oem one, now I feel much better
I’m convinced! Was in love with the Kawasaki Ninja 650. Even went to mountain motor sports in Marietta and almost had them ship it to my apartment but had a last minute change of though. But after this video, which I knew you’d put up last of the 3 lol, I’m going to get this CBR! I’m in love with it. And I’m a first time rider so hopefully I’ll get used to it sooner than the Kawasaki.
I rode the ninja 650 for 5 years it was the best bike ever and very forgiving if you made a mistake. Abd very fast of the line. I use to surprise guys on 600s and 1000s all the time. I even had a few pull up and ask me what the hell is this. But after watching this I think ima have to trade her in for this bike.
Brandon Goicuria my story is pretty much the same. Was eyeing the Ninja 650 until I started doing more research and learning more about this CBR 650R. Now I am in love with this bike and have my mind made up and will be going to the dealership tomorrow to make a deal on one. Gorgeous styling, great versatility and Honda reliability. Can’t go wrong.
Chase, huge fan. Binge watching WBR, love the first ride reviews. The CBR650r was on my list for a future bike, I need a ride for long rides, commute to work, and I love the sport look
I bought a CBR650R 2019 model in January, here in the UK. Been looking forward to your review for ages. One thing.. I think the UK bike has more power (94bhp) and from the highway shots, I think my bike is faster.. don't know why the difference, perhaps stricter emissions. The clutch has hydraulic assist to make it lighter.. also I think the bite-point was set wrong for you, as it was also on the SV650X. I have ASV levers on mine which adjust the span, and just behind the lever there is a knob for adjustment (sometimes its on the gearbox end) and you can adjust the bite point there (but not too much as it may affect clutch slip.. ask Brian). I think both on this and the SV650X some adjustment in the clutch bite point may have solved your issue. I love my CBR650R its just right for my first bike after getting a license, and my next one will be a SuperSport bike. Love your reviews and content Chase, keep up the hard work bro :)
Yes that's really bother me tbh. Basically every lever clutch operated motorcycle is adjustable, sometimes when a dude ranting about how bad the clutch feels just because the engage is to short or to long it becomes a big minus for a motorcycle. Like man, you should have enough knowledge about every bits on motorcycle if you rode them long enough or had that many years experience. That's what happened when a dude only know how to ride motorcycle, but doesn't have a bond with it.
I think the clutch and gearbox are a common Honda thing. I drove an 02 civic and that clutch had no feel in it either, and shifting from gear to gear gave little indication that it actually went into gear, my crf230f’s clutch also had basically no feedback either, and the gearbox would slip into neutral only from 1st gear, and shifting from neutral to 1st sometimes gave zero indication that it engaged, oddly enough the other gears felt fine
A couple of years ago I test rode a CR650, so same engine as this CBR.....very nice engine. Easy on slow roads and when you want to get up it, it revved nice and smooth to the top end. Perhaps the ergonomics of the CB would be better for an everyday home-to-work but I'd take either or.
@@aldik_dj - I've got the 2015 Honda CBR500R in silver here in England. It hasn't put a foot wrong in 18,000 miles. It's my first bike - I got my licence in a 5 day course in 1991 then didn't ride again till I just walked into Shrewsbury Honda and bought it! Enjoy yours.
Can you do the new Aprilia 660? Out of the 3 bikes, I much prefer this bike looks wise and the 4cyl too because it'll sound so awesome with a can, just not a fan of the price. For the price I'd get the ZX6R instead.
Me personally i love the 650 the clutch feels like the honda grom which is the bike i learned on its very loose and since the grom had it i like it. I have a 2020 CBR650R
I have had this bike for about a year now. Its a good review and I agree with most of it. I am not a fan of how the gears engage myself. There are a lot of false neutral and its a pain to get into 1st from 6th if you are coming to a stop from highway speeds on a signal. The clutch in my opinion is one of the best on a bike, its light and very easy to operate. It has a slipper clutch so the rear wheel doesn't lock up downshifting, as someone who owns and ride this bike I simply cant relate to what exactly did you not like about the clutch? I am baffled by your comment. It has enough power and I have topped it at 230ish Km/h but keep in mind the speedometer is 7.5% off which is way higher than it should be in my opinion. You are right though the engine is not the smoothest in the world and you do feel quiet a bit of vibration in handlebars and foot-pegs on certain RPM. The first gear is kinda tall and tops out about 70ish mph (115kph) this means to launch the bike you need to keep the rpms high otherwise it takes a dip, if done properly it can hit 60mph in 3.2 sec, but its not gonna set the tarmac on fire. The traction control is terrible, its a very "on off" herky-jerky system that cuts the ignition off violently. The one thing no one mentions:- The helmet lock! its a dreadful design and absolutely pointless. Built quality is OK. Over all the bike is designed to provide a learning platform to be used as a stepping stone for proper super sport bikes and for people who like to ride something that looks like a sport bike with more comfortable ergonomics.
As someone who's just moved countries back to Europe - I've been looking for another bike to pick up for local town get around and summer cruising to the coast. My bike history is pretty linear : 2x 94' CBR250RR, 07' Zx6r, 15' NK-650, 17' MT09 and a '17 MT10. While I'm still pining over my MT10, as it was tuned, with lower bars and risers and a AR exhaust... I really don't need another wild bike that uses more fuel than a car. It was a fun but expensive bike and while it was hilarious to pick up the front wheel at 100kmh and carry it to 200 on throttle alone, I feel like I want something a little more efficient and perhaps smoother. Ideally fuel and cost efficient, but I still wanna be able to open that throttle and cut away real fast. All I can find in my area are Zx6rs from 07 (like the one I had), however they're overpriced and have high mileage.. and I don't know how difficult finding new parts for those 15 old bikes will be in my town. I guess my concern, and I hope any owners can chime in, is this bike fuel efficient enough and is it quick enough relatively? I can get used to a 600cc again, but I don't know if I having less than 100hp will satisfy my power cravings. I have seen some videos of these bikes launching pretty damn fast, and their 0-200kmh times aren't bad at all... But how are they in real life, with partial throttle and higher gearing?
Just want to comment on the 2019 650r I own one and the clutch feel fine to me bike shift well and I always take off in 2nd gear and after that I shift with no clutch like if it's a quick shifter long ass rpm not too high shift up n down I love it
The clutch is one of the best thing about this bike vs others. try driving this 5hrs in a city vs R7 for example. you start enjoying the sht ton of that clutch.
Mirrors are indeed pointless. Clutch is sorted by aftermarket levers (yes it is a huge reach as stock). But boy is it the best bike to ride in the group. I literally love mine.
Safety Tip: If you are riding in eastern NC be much more cautious with your riding. There are a lot of "crazy" drivers here. I'm a field service tech and I frequently commute into the Raleigh-Durham area. At least once a morning and once a afternoon I will see a "crazy" driver. The worst part is the "crazy" ones do unpredictable things. Once you have spotted a "crazy" they are easy to keep track of. What is crazy you ask? Exiting from the left lane of a 4 lane highway. Merging into the left lane of a 4 lane highway (yes, come off the merging ramp and going straight to the left lane). Traffic normally flows between 75-80 mph (5-10 over). While going 80 I've had a car pass me at 100 (estimate) and they did so by cutting off the car in the left lane (2 lanes). At the time I estimated that their front bumper cleared my rear bumper by about a foot, definitely not more than 2 feet, a crazy. What else,... (we'll use colors to keep this straight) seen a silver car (4 lane highway, 70+ mph) go by me in the far left lane, change two lanes right to try and pass cars (red car, blue car) in two left lanes. The red car was in the far left lane and was passing the blue car in the 2 lane from the left. Another car (brown car) in far left lane came up. The red car passed the blue car on the left and the silver car (crazy) passed the blue car on the right. The blue car had another car (black car) about 1 1/2 car lengths in front of it. The silver car (crazy) encountered more traffic in the two right lanes and so they changed two lanes to the left (far left lane) by cutting through the space between the blue and black car and in the process cut off the brown car which was passing the blue car on the left. Again, this was a 70-80 mph. Several years ago NC cut the drivers education program (funding?) from the public school system. Driving here makes me thing of driving in India or Mexico City, everything is a free for all.
Another example of drivers in NC. That car making the U-turn at 16:05. I've seen them do that here when I was at half the distance and driving my Tundra. I cannot stress enough that some of the drivers here just do not care or are unafraid or something, I don't know.
Really enjoy watching the first rides ! I do not believe audio will ever be properly conveyed through recording. I do have a 2014/18 ( long story but all factory) MV Agusta F3 800 that you need to ride. i live in the west Ga area. The Honda is nice never personally rode one, only harleys and suzukis.
Terrible audio at the beginning. You need a new mic. Sounded like a tree was literally being cut down.
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As an owner of the Honda CBR 650r, 2019 edition, the clutch is so light but I guess you could add an adjustable lever, I do agree with that. I'll be honest on mine, as I've done almost 3000 miles, the gearing really clunks into place for me. On the motorway/highway, you can easily do 100Mph + comfortably with no worries and if you are in the right rev range, 8000+ and above, it will pull really good. In the corners it basically just falls over. Personally I think it's a really polished machine, maybe a little too refined maybe. The bike essentially is perfectly good at everything, but it doesn't stand out in any specific way. Perfect for an upgrade from a smaller capacity bike. I ride this bike everyday and I've done almost 3000 miles on it, but I love every minute, its a bike you can basically ride in whichever way you like, aggressive or chilled out, and I've done over 200miles in one trip and it's super comfortable. I also love that induction noise! Also outro crew rating for me as an owner - 8/10
ECU remap it totally improves it, now it's a lot more fun
Loving having others that have put more miles on the bikes give their info man. Thanks for commenting!
Damnit I'm conflicted now. I've been riding a Honda ctx700n and want to upgrade within the next year. Really liking the gsxs750 but now this is on my radar.
How are the vibrations? Some other videos have mentioned the bike gets really bad vibes at certain RPMs.
I ride a cb650r and i realy enjoy riding it. Your comment is spot on!
I bought this bike 3 weeks ago. I agree the clutch has zero feel, but personally I like it. It’s the lightest clutch lever pull I’ve ever felt. The handle bars and foot pegs do buzz a little bit at higher RPMs but acceptable. The best things about this bike are: radial mounted calipers, inverted forks, ram air, in-line 4 cylinder. Those are the things that make it feel like a super sport. Honestly I am very happy with it. Sure it’s not the fastest thing in the market, but it’s a very focused bike with a purpose. I’m glad you got to ride it Chase!
Milo Milo yes this is a pretty decent long distance bike. I’ve went on a 100 mile ride recently and it did great. It’s good on the freeway and great in the twisty mountains.
I've been looking for my first bike and I've totally fallen in love with it, do you recommend it?
@@theGizmo100 I would recommend it because I bought one 4 days ago and it’s perfect
@@theGizmo100 it can be used as a first bike if you’re sensible. Still probably best to get a 300 for a month or two. The 650 is pretty expensive so if you drop it you’re kinda fucked
It is really awesome as a second bike, but honda made a better bike ,CBR 600RR for the sport, but as a sport tourer, it really good, the inline 4 gives it a bad low end torque , still ok.
If your friends know absolutely nothing about bikes, they'll think this is one of the fastest bikes out there, simply because of the way it looks. I love it!!!
My friends know nothing about bikes and they think this about my 2018 CBR500R 😂
@@dylankeenan1590 same!
@No_Name yep, at 98 HP, and weighing less than 400 lbs you’re still going to be the fastest thing on the road 98% of the time. Heck if you have a Ninja 400, you’re going to be the fastest thing on the road at-least 75% of the time.
I love this bike.
@@chalkdemon8019 I have a ninja 300 and i still feel way faster than the majority of the cars 😂
Nice production quality as always Chase. A couple of things I want to mention about this bike, I own the naked version but I currently have the CBR on loan from Honda. I find the clutch really nice on these, really light but you can definitely tell when it's biting. Mirrors are fine, you just need to adjust them. To get the supersport experience, you have to rev this bike out. Gear low, revs high and this bike is a real hoot. It's a proper everyday sports bike. Here in the UK the bike is ridiculously cheap too, under £8k making it much more attractive. Ride safe brother, peace! EBD
Dan I loved your in depth review on this bike, even considering this as my next purchase.
@@Sumpguard Thanks Alvin, appreciate it. :)
@@Englishbikerdan subscriber of your channel Dan, upgrading from yamaha r3 to cbr650r as my second bike in india...do u think itz worth?
@@anirbanghosh5066in india itll be great unless you want a true supersport but it would be super difficult to use anywhere
@atharvakamat313 Honda and yamaha knows our india very well...we hate them about pricing and products,but they cater to practicality aspect much more than other brands, thatz what I blv...and am gonna stay with yamaha or Honda for future motorcycles😊
I've owned this bike since August of '19...LOVE it. Upgraded from a 2016 CB500X (changed riding styles?) The bike is pretty good at anything, but not perfect at anything...that being said, it's perfect at being good at everything. Efficient for a daily commute (I do everyday, to and from work), comfy enough for a nice, long cruise, and power when I want it to get away from all the a**holes on the road. It handles corners nicely, too! Fun bike overall, glad I made the purchase on it.
This video really sold me on the CBR650R. Looking forward to when I graduate school and can buy one of these beautiful machines.
Bro, you can still see the colored lines on the tires. You know they're brand new and won't have any grip. Also, the clutch is by cable, and you can for sure adjust how it feels.
noobasdfjkl all that stuff can be adjusted. Mirrors buttons clutch break all that stuff can be customized. People don’t know that and it’s annoying because they judge the bike off that stuff. It’s like wtf
Agree, also you can't really do a proper comparison unless every bike has the exact same tyres.
Good tyres transformed my cornering by quite alot.
Unfortunately it's not just about lines, most expensive bike here, has the cheapest tyres ;)
@@JeTmanChannel That's usually the case. Imagine if they put good tyres on, the price would be too high and then it's harder to sell.
This is why triumph tends to be priced higher. Decent tyres and amazing brakes.
Moving up from a 300 I wanted a supersport but didn't want a track-focused super-weapon. After looking around I found this to be a perfect compromise of a supersport and a 650 class bike without sacrificing too much on either end. Huge plug for me is it's still geared towards performance with the high revving I-4 + plus it doesn't sound like a lawn mower. This just solidified my feelings, love this bike! Coming for it soon!
Lol jk I got a daytona
@@BlueDevilMoto how's your back?
@@pocketpunch9920 just fine 😂
@@BlueDevilMoto hehe 675s are beautiful and great, I just can't ride them for very long hahaha
@@pocketpunch9920 they're definitely not meant to be ridden like a cruiser. I've never taken a trip longer than a couple of hours, anything more and you really have to pull off and relax for a bit
Sometimes, you can hear in a person's voice when they aren't overly excited about riding a bike...but, if you have the luxury of riding literally hundreds of different bikes so that you can truly know what tickles your fancy, I guess this is not a bad thing lol
Treizez34 well put
I have the late 2016 version of this bike (it’s basically identical, they’ve just changed the body shapes, dash, etc. and yes I have driven both!) - it’s the stock levers you’re hating. PLEASE don’t judge this bike on the levers!!! I replaced mine with aftermarket adjustables a week after buying this bike and the difference is phenomenal (I also have tiny hands so...). I know exactly how you’re feeling with that clutch and even after adjusting the cables repeatedly, I still struggled and wasn’t happy, so decided to give aftermarkets a shot and everyone else I’ve recommended changing them to, have noticed the difference which is ridiculous! I’ve done over 50,000 miles on this bike so far and do 400+ miles commuting every weekend here on the UK, in all weathers, so I will definately say this is a great bike for commuting! The stock tyres on this bike are also not great and they eat nails, etc. - mine are currently Michelin Pilot Road 5’s but previously had the Metzeler 01’s and both were such an improvement. It’s such a super stable bike! Pillions are also happy on it :) I’m a fairly short female and my partner (male) rides on the back sometimes and has no complaints even after 100 miles. The only thing I disagree on (sorry!) is the lack of good engine breaking as I use this all the time and have never had an issue with it not being good enough for general use, but that might just be me XD Great to see this review from you, as have been waiting for you to test this bike for ages, so thanks!
The engine is tuned to take regular fuel and fuel economy. I find inline 4s with lighter valve springs tend to do better in fuel economy but vibrate more as a result.
Bike is a gem honestly, really versatile and great for the street rider and commuter. But still advantageous enough for some spirited riding and comfortably at that. Inline four as well, sheeesh let's be honest here I love this bike. Good review, feel like you missed the ball on some great points about this bike that would have made it a great review. Luv ya
All I hear is contradiction and drivel. "The bike makes me want a supersport experience but the engine doesn't deliver." Yet, "The riding position isn't quite super sport, but not as relaxed..." then later "Yeah, this bike is a lot more like a super sport" So which is it? Also, the engine revs out 12,800 rpm, yet you complain about it not delivering a super sport like experience when you barely scratch 8000rpm really early into the review. As for the clutch - It has a Slipper and Assist clutch, which is why it feels so light. I didn't once see you screw up a clutch engagement... Maybe, and hear me out, just maybe, you aren't used to it?
Totally possible my dude. In my First Ride videos they are just that. A First Ride and during them I'm working out my feelings on the bike and how I feel about it. Its not unheard of for my opinion to change as the video goes on.
@@chaseontwowheels I can't fault that as it is a literal "Ride review." I would say that it may be a good idea to ride the bike before recording to help formulate full opinions, then do a second ride to record and then express those opinions when they are fully formed. Some of your observations about this bike were spot on, and others just seemed... odd. Something to conclude about this bike that was a missed opportunity, for example, was that this is a great beginner/learner track bike that can also be a better daily than a full on super sport 600.
Wow, I feel so much more "complete" now. So, First Rides are like one-night-stands with weed/liquor.
Michael Nickname The purpose of the semi mid class is not to include Super Sports or weren’t you paying attention?
@@OddBallPerformance - Why develop full impressions first? That would be a review. This is a first ride... aka "This is what you might feel or think your first time on it." I like the format.
I've been riding over 12 years on over 30 different bikes and I can't wait to get this and add to my collection. This bike is the modern version of the F4i which was wanted for years. I think Honda hit it right on the nail with this one and I absolutely love the way it looks.
Its exactly what I think, its very like a 90s supersport in its position and power ect. You know when 600s sold like hotcakes before they got ever more extreme and unusable
But it has ten less horsepower with 50 cc more than the f4i. Need some rawness in a 600, this feels very predictable and sterile.
But how do you like the clutch?
Once again, like in the Ninja 650 video, slip assist clutch not mentioned. I would think that might affect the way you interpret the clutch and the engine braking. 😉
I will say, this thing's position looks a lot like the old VFR800. Not too upright, not too aggressive. Seems comfortable
I’m so happy rn. I’ve been waiting so long to see your review on the 650r. I want that bike to be my first bike
It'll be my 2nd. IF I decide to upgrade. I have the Ninja 400 and it does wonders for me
I got it this summer and was definitely a great scoop had the time of my life and can’t wait to be able to ride again after winter
You can upgrade the clutch springs, but on this bike is a slipper clutch so it's suppose to be soft. Those type of clutch are easy to use for beginners.
Finally a comprehensive review of this bike.. Good job man
I'm so in love with this bike😩🔥
Wow the bike looks amazing and love the I-4 sound over the twin. It's crazy how Honda makes a 500r and 650r look better than there 600rr....
Chase, are you going to do 600 super sports next after you get done with this first ride series
Honda 1 , Kawasaki 2 , Suzuki 3, 🤷🏻♂️ just my choice
Same
Agree
Rip yamaha
I think the ninja is a better bike but Suzuki's engine is better ,
@@m.rraghav817 Have riden them all and totally agree with You,. In the end I have purchased Kawi as I wanted a faired bike, but if Suzuki would have had modern S version with a fairing, would go for Suzuki as love it's engine and suspension.
Hello there Mr. Chase, it's just a recommendation from me. Every time you felt like going to ride a motorcycle for the "First Ride" series, make sure you set/adjust/request the clutch lever to be your preference settings/adjustments. So you can have equal/similar clutch feeling for all the motorcycles you're going to ride and better at judging them. Cheers...!! 😁
It’s a slipper clutch. That’s why it’s so easy to pull and has light engine breaking. You can adjust the engagement point with the cable to get it where you want it.
The first ride I’ve been waiting for!!
I just started watching your reviews and i love how in-depth you get. From the graph at the beginning to performance. I think it’s really dope
Love how you're pumping out these First Rides.
Putting a heavier set of springs in the clutch can improve the feel somewhat, aka make the pull a bit heavier at the lever, it has an added benefit of giving the plates more grab when fully closed, but it depends if these are available in the aftermarket. It also requires removing the clutch from inside the engine.
Chase, I love your reviews and have watched many over the last few weeks all the while shopping for the correct bike. Today, I’ve found a 600r discounted very heavily and within my price range. Your review many have steered me away from this model due to a few issues; clutch, peg positioning, low range torque, wind screen setup, turn signal positioning. In short, your words hold more weight than you may know. It may be best for everyone (viewer included) to have you critique the bike later in the ride, possibly atleast till you’ve driven on highway. Several reviews (including this one) you went from not so good to really nice.
On a site note, I spent a few years reviewing restaurants and small businesses. I love what you’ve been offering, however wish you would hold off negatively critiquing until further into the ride. That way we get an overall view on a scale of 1:10; something a little more measurable.
See Ya’h round
The bike that I've been waitinggg
Get it with abs quickshifter traction control
Wojciech Kalka u can’t the the abs/traction control and the quickshifter... it’s one or the other
hendrix yes you can. Or at least here in the uk you can.
altypeRR idk but when I called Honda about it for mine that’s what they told me
@@WojciechKalka I think in malaysia we didn't have quickshifter for this bike
Ohhhhhh I beeen waitin for this one!
Almost a year owning this bike, I absolutely love it and yeah the clutch is strange at first but now I'm used to it so I don't stall every lights lol
Is this a good beginner bikes?
Really digging the looks of this. Like, REALLY digging it. It would be my choice for sure, but I'm a Honda fanboy so my opinion is horrifically biased. 🤣
If only the Ninja had the CBR engine, sound boii!!💚❤️💚❤️
Please no ... the N650 stands alone with a torquey twin with fairings and comfy body position. You've got a million inline-4s to choose from already ...
Just prefer the sound, personal preference though 🔥 I'm currently daily commuting (50miles/80km) with a r3 and looking for something different that's not a parallel twin.
@@gerrit_r Biggest reason why I went from Z650 to Z900.
xorbe2 this bike has a very comfortable position compared to a ZX6R, R6, or CBR600RR. The CBR650R is basically the same chassis style as a Ninja, neutral riding position, it just adds a screaming i4 into the mix...
I can look at this bike all day everyday.
How about a ride or a review on a CBR500R 2019/2020 chase. Really love ur videos dude, keep it up👍
The clutch is designed to be very lightweight. It has an assisted/slipper clutch designed to feel like an easy step from smaller bikes
About to get my license, the CBR650R is my first bike, waiting in the garage! Can't wait to ride it!
What are your thoughts of the CBR650R? What do you like / dislike about it?
@@shogoracing4294 I've ride it 2 months (made 3,000km), I loved the engine, super smooth and predictable but had a great punch from 4,500 RPM to 6,000 RPM (it was an A2 Restricted version, 47,5 HP, then it felt empty), the clutch was strange but ok. The chassis was brilliant, first time I rode it, it felt like I ride it for years, super point for Honda. The Showa suspension were really good, even for a beginner like me, it was hard to get another bike with this kind of level. For the position, I'm 1,90m tall, felt cramped but it wasn't that bad (I did a good afternoon doing sports ride with friends, it was ok). The only negative point for me were the engine (only if its the restricted version, full, its another story !) the rear brake, I used it a lot, never had a good feeling with it and the ground clearance wasn't that good.
I couldn't keep this bike because the insurance costed more than we agreed, but it was a really good "first sport bike", but I consider this CBR more like a "GT", or a "road sport" bike.
PS : Sorry for the bad english, not my first language at all :/
@@speedz5771 Thanks for sharing your experience! GT/ Sport road sport bike sounds about right. That’s moreso what I’m looking for myself although I’ve owned several bikes throughout the years. My very first bike was the Honda CBR250R. Not sure what others say, but to me it was a fun bike. I did grow tired of it after a few months of serious riding, but imagine that the CBR650R might be a bike that one could enjoy for years. Now the bike that I truly enjoyed test riding was the Triumph Street Triple 765 R. THAT bike is a blast to ride! The only thing is that I’m still considering the Honda (despite being of a different class of bikes) since they are known to be more reliable... I can do a few things here and there, but certainly am not a mechanic. Hopefully you’ll find a bike that you love.
@@shogoracing4294 Thanks for your response ^^
I did found a bike I absolutly loved, it was the 790 Duke, I had it for 6 month, but unfortunelty, I had a hard crash, the 790 was dead and I was extremely lucky that the only wound I got was a broken wrist. I have to wait atleast 1 year to ride again, but I already know what bike I'll ride again .
Be safe man ;)
Outro crew 9/10 the only negative being the price compared to the others in the class but you get what you pay for
You can change the clutch springs to give you more a harder pull/more feel from the clutch. People do it all the time.
Death Wish83 yes but this bike comes stock with a slipper clutch with a lighter clutch pull, the F model that I have has the old clutch and a much harder pull getting stuck in gridlock on the highway was a bitch
This bike is fantastic for people in the UK. This is because people with an A2 license can ride it. This is the ONLY (new) sport bike you can ride in the UK on an A2 license. Its a gift for us
GUYS! If anyone here is thinking about buying this bike, I'll give you one piece of advice: get new gearing for it. Either go 1 tooth down in the front (easier) or 2 up in the rear (a little more difficult, not much).
It changes it from a bike that sucks in the city and ONLY is awesome on the motorway, to something at is very nice to ride everywhere.
Changing the gears make it more powerful & torquey in the lower-end powerband and makes it feel more like a 2 cylinder/linear powerband down low. Your top speed (in 6th gear) goes down by maybe 5-10km/h but it feels WAY better to drive daily.
Just do some research about what im saying and you'll get why I'm telling you this. It transforms the bike from okay to amazing by changing one thing!
Clutch needs adjusting to suit your preference. Its super smooth, so smooth that you can set off from a stand still without touching the throttle. If you want to feel the torque, you need to open the throttle, the ecu is set so that 25% throttle IS actually 25% throttle.
Cbr - 10. Ninja650 - 7. Sv - 5.
Nice clarification. TY, I wasn't sure about that description.
I prefer the 2018 CBR650F over the 2019 going to a 650R. If you can get your hands on one of those you will probably prefer it as well.
Outro Crew: 9/10 for sure the best bike of the 3, looks, sound, handling
Bike looks sick af tbh
Not really a fan on the tail side... couldve been more sharper it looks like a cb 650r :( front end side looks sick tho...
@@Jriz01 thats why you buy the pillion cover
I love the back, looks real modern, traditional sport bike tails look too pointy too me.
The real irony of this review is that, now Honda has the E-Clutch, the clutch feel is rendered irrelevant.
I love that it looks like the fireblade
Imho it looks even better
They nailed the looks and the bars/tank height are spot-on. I'm guessing the waistline cut-out on the windscreen fairing is for clip-on clearance. I wish it had a more solid cockpit windscreen like the R3 (but maybe the fairing would've been too high (??). I'm searching for double bubble screen pics now.
Would love to see a review of the Honda CB650R.
It's the same bike with no fairings it's lighter do.
EnglishBikerDan has a CB650R and has a pretty good review on it
@@luismsaguiar it's got shorter gearing I think
It has a quickshifter if fitted and traction.control, I have it with Akrapovic and ECU tune totally different bike, without tune the six gear was useless, no abs is silly, clutch is totally fine, I rarely use it anyway. Btw stock this bike has 69.7hp on the rear wheel and runs at 18-19:1 air ratio..Now at 2500miles on it after two months..
Do first ride on the 2020 CBR500R
Slipper clutch comes stock on those I believe, lighter pull, less feel in the clutch but very durable and forgiving on upshifts and downshifts.
I give this a 8, liked it the best.
I bet you could change the tension on the wire of the clutch to give you more feel.
So interesting to see Chase giggling and thrilled with the CBR300R but not so much on the 500 and 650...
im surprised you didn't test the CB650R as well which is the naked version of this bike
I think you need to consider insurance cost in this comparison. The CBR650R is double the price of the Ninja 650 and SV650X for me to insure. I really like the CBR, but the insurance is the same as a ZX-6R or R6. Though I get what you're saying, the CBR is a great option as a comfortable slightly less than super sport bike.
Torque and horsepower are not just different colors of M&Ms, Chase. Torque is just the twisting force(on the crankshaft) an engine creates when combustion occurs. If enough torque(twisting force) is created(if the crankshaft rotates) then an engine can successfully move the vehicle by generating POWER. Power is torque multiplied by rpm(divided by 5,252 when using the standard system, but that’s not super important to grasp the concept here).
POWER is what makes the vehicle GO. It’s also the thing that makes the vehicle GO TO A HIGHER TOP SPEED, OR ACCELERATE FASTER, if more power is made in identical conditions.
TORQUE output will be higher at certain RPMs than others, due to I.C.E.s having a relatively narrow range of efficient operation. Engineers must decide where to make each engine most effective at TORQUE production, and since TORQUE tires RPM is POWER, that range is where the engine will pull the hardest. Again, TORQUE at individual rpms will also vary with each engine design and even between identical engines off the assembly line. If you design the bike for peak power(super sport), you’ll lose some of that power at low revs that a dual sport, cruiser, or naked would have(with the same displacement and such.
POWER can be made by either more TORQUE, or more RPMs, it’s that simple. The engine is always producing TORQUE and POWER. THEY ARE NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE!
Please get educated on basic things like these, because I guarantee people make decisions based on the words you say. Stop muddying the water on such a fundamental part of being a rider or driver.
Also, that CBR650R makes 93.9bhp at 12,000rpm, and 47ft-lbs at 8,500. That means it’s making 76.1bhp at 8,500rpm, and 41.1ft-lbs at 12,000.
Again, that CBR650R makes more power at 8,500 than either of these two bikes make in their entire respective rev-ranges(Ninja makes 67bhp at 8,000, SV650 makes 75bhp at 8,500) and the CBR still has 50% more rev-range to go through. That said, shorter gears on the SV and Ninja can make it feel closer in power output to the CBR, until those highway speeds/gears.
I really hope you understand this now, because I’ve watched your videos for years, and this misinformation really has to stop.
I own this one. Feel great everyday riding it
Bought one a few weeks ago, yes the riding position is not the best, lower body feels like naked bike, but upper body is more aggressive than naked bike position. So wt I did was I bought new rear foot set which is higher than oem one, now I feel much better
I love how you yell out Hell yeah as you pull into the church parking lot
I’m convinced! Was in love with the Kawasaki Ninja 650. Even went to mountain motor sports in Marietta and almost had them ship it to my apartment but had a last minute change of though. But after this video, which I knew you’d put up last of the 3 lol, I’m going to get this CBR! I’m in love with it. And I’m a first time rider so hopefully I’ll get used to it sooner than the Kawasaki.
Make sure you do the First Ride pricing so you get the best deal on the bike if you are going with Mountain Motorsports!
I rode the ninja 650 for 5 years it was the best bike ever and very forgiving if you made a mistake. Abd very fast of the line. I use to surprise guys on 600s and 1000s all the time. I even had a few pull up and ask me what the hell is this. But after watching this I think ima have to trade her in for this bike.
Brandon Goicuria my story is pretty much the same. Was eyeing the Ninja 650 until I started doing more research and learning more about this CBR 650R. Now I am in love with this bike and have my mind made up and will be going to the dealership tomorrow to make a deal on one. Gorgeous styling, great versatility and Honda reliability. Can’t go wrong.
18:59 "Future bike."
I had one...it’s boring...I traded it for the 2020 CBR650R
These videos (and comments) are so helpful for researching my purchase. Thanks everyone.
Chase, huge fan. Binge watching WBR, love the first ride reviews. The CBR650r was on my list for a future bike, I need a ride for long rides, commute to work, and I love the sport look
Please review the kawasaki ninja zx636 2019
I bought a CBR650R 2019 model in January, here in the UK. Been looking forward to your review for ages. One thing.. I think the UK bike has more power (94bhp) and from the highway shots, I think my bike is faster.. don't know why the difference, perhaps stricter emissions. The clutch has hydraulic assist to make it lighter.. also I think the bite-point was set wrong for you, as it was also on the SV650X. I have ASV levers on mine which adjust the span, and just behind the lever there is a knob for adjustment (sometimes its on the gearbox end) and you can adjust the bite point there (but not too much as it may affect clutch slip.. ask Brian). I think both on this and the SV650X some adjustment in the clutch bite point may have solved your issue.
I love my CBR650R its just right for my first bike after getting a license, and my next one will be a SuperSport bike. Love your reviews and content Chase, keep up the hard work bro :)
Yes that's really bother me tbh. Basically every lever clutch operated motorcycle is adjustable, sometimes when a dude ranting about how bad the clutch feels just because the engage is to short or to long it becomes a big minus for a motorcycle. Like man, you should have enough knowledge about every bits on motorcycle if you rode them long enough or had that many years experience. That's what happened when a dude only know how to ride motorcycle, but doesn't have a bond with it.
I think the clutch and gearbox are a common Honda thing. I drove an 02 civic and that clutch had no feel in it either, and shifting from gear to gear gave little indication that it actually went into gear, my crf230f’s clutch also had basically no feedback either, and the gearbox would slip into neutral only from 1st gear, and shifting from neutral to 1st sometimes gave zero indication that it engaged, oddly enough the other gears felt fine
You could just replace the levers with aftermarket adjustable ones, that should solve the clutch problem, right?
A couple of years ago I test rode a CR650, so same engine as this CBR.....very nice engine. Easy on slow roads and when you want to get up it, it revved nice and smooth to the top end. Perhaps the ergonomics of the CB would be better for an everyday home-to-work but I'd take either or.
There’s a quick shifter add on from Honda if you don’t like clutch.
I wait this first ride for a long time and really want to know what do you think about my motorbike
If you think this things has vibration, ride a 2 stroke dirt bike, you have to tighten the bolts after every ride
It’s an assisted slipper clutch. It’s supposed to be really light with minor resistance.
Dude literally went from "meh-meh-meh-meh" to nuts in 0.5 secs 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please Please Please do the CBR 500R 2019. This was great!
Stephen Tailby the 500 doesn’t get any kind of love, I have the 2018 one. I’ve only ridden it last summer but it’s my first bike and it’s really fun 😄
@@aldik_dj What color? My first as well. Its awesome. Not sure why no love. Chase will come through, I know it lol.
Stephen Tailby it’s white, red and black. That was the only color for that year. Probably cause Honda might be the only brand with a 500, idk 🤷🏾♀️😂
@@aldik_dj - I've got the 2015 Honda CBR500R in silver here in England. It hasn't put a foot wrong in 18,000 miles. It's my first bike - I got my licence in a 5 day course in 1991 then didn't ride again till I just walked into Shrewsbury Honda and bought it! Enjoy yours.
Please do a first ride of the 2020 Ninja 1000SX
This or the cbr600rr? Loving the look of the 650r tho
Can you do the new Aprilia 660? Out of the 3 bikes, I much prefer this bike looks wise and the 4cyl too because it'll sound so awesome with a can, just not a fan of the price. For the price I'd get the ZX6R instead.
10:48 is when you can see burlachers mustang. It’s purple
Me personally i love the 650 the clutch feels like the honda grom which is the bike i learned on its very loose and since the grom had it i like it. I have a 2020 CBR650R
Would you say the cbr 650 is comparable in acceleration to a Suzuki Katana? 600 or 750?
I'm seriously considering trading my CBR500R in for this. But I'm also looking at the 2008 CBR600RR. Which would be the better buy?
I have had this bike for about a year now. Its a good review and I agree with most of it.
I am not a fan of how the gears engage myself. There are a lot of false neutral and its a pain to get into 1st from 6th if you are coming to a stop from highway speeds on a signal.
The clutch in my opinion is one of the best on a bike, its light and very easy to operate. It has a slipper clutch so the rear wheel doesn't lock up downshifting, as someone who owns and ride this bike I simply cant relate to what exactly did you not like about the clutch? I am baffled by your comment.
It has enough power and I have topped it at 230ish Km/h but keep in mind the speedometer is 7.5% off which is way higher than it should be in my opinion. You are right though the engine is not the smoothest in the world and you do feel quiet a bit of vibration in handlebars and foot-pegs on certain RPM. The first gear is kinda tall and tops out about 70ish mph (115kph) this means to launch the bike you need to keep the rpms high otherwise it takes a dip, if done properly it can hit 60mph in 3.2 sec, but its not gonna set the tarmac on fire.
The traction control is terrible, its a very "on off" herky-jerky system that cuts the ignition off violently.
The one thing no one mentions:- The helmet lock! its a dreadful design and absolutely pointless. Built quality is OK. Over all the bike is designed to provide a learning platform to be used as a stepping stone for proper super sport bikes and for people who like to ride something that looks like a sport bike with more comfortable ergonomics.
i love the clutch on my cbr650r its so ez to pull coming from a xr650r
As someone who's just moved countries back to Europe - I've been looking for another bike to pick up for local town get around and summer cruising to the coast.
My bike history is pretty linear : 2x 94' CBR250RR, 07' Zx6r, 15' NK-650, 17' MT09 and a '17 MT10.
While I'm still pining over my MT10, as it was tuned, with lower bars and risers and a AR exhaust... I really don't need another wild bike that uses more fuel than a car.
It was a fun but expensive bike and while it was hilarious to pick up the front wheel at 100kmh and carry it to 200 on throttle alone, I feel like I want something a little more efficient and perhaps smoother.
Ideally fuel and cost efficient, but I still wanna be able to open that throttle and cut away real fast.
All I can find in my area are Zx6rs from 07 (like the one I had), however they're overpriced and have high mileage.. and I don't know how difficult finding new parts for those 15 old bikes will be in my town.
I guess my concern, and I hope any owners can chime in, is this bike fuel efficient enough and is it quick enough relatively?
I can get used to a 600cc again, but I don't know if I having less than 100hp will satisfy my power cravings.
I have seen some videos of these bikes launching pretty damn fast, and their 0-200kmh times aren't bad at all... But how are they in real life, with partial throttle and higher gearing?
Just want to comment on the 2019 650r I own one and the clutch feel fine to me bike shift well and I always take off in 2nd gear and after that I shift with no clutch like if it's a quick shifter long ass rpm not too high shift up n down I love it
I’m gonna vomit after reading this
7:45 You didn't get mad or smash his mirror WELL DONE 😀
The real competition is Honda CB650R vs Yamaha MT07 :D
Yes! I would love to see him do a first ride on the CB650R and compare it with this one. @chaseontwowheels Do it for us.
Good first ride clutchontwowheels. :P This made me consider the red color over the black as well. Cheers!
Chase you should have include royal enfield 650 interceptor in middle weight category great fun bike you should do a first ride on it
one of the main things other reviews praise about this bike is the clutch and gearbox... personal preference, I guess
isn't the clutch maybe only relevant when you're driving off a standstill? and aren't hydraulic clutches also light af?
The clutch is one of the best thing about this bike vs others. try driving this 5hrs in a city vs R7 for example. you start enjoying the sht ton of that clutch.
Mirrors are indeed pointless. Clutch is sorted by aftermarket levers (yes it is a huge reach as stock). But boy is it the best bike to ride in the group. I literally love mine.
The tail top seat key is a game changer.
@ChaseOnTwoWheels: What is it exactly that you don't like about the clutch?
Safety Tip: If you are riding in eastern NC be much more cautious with your riding. There are a lot of "crazy" drivers here. I'm a field service tech and I frequently commute into the Raleigh-Durham area. At least once a morning and once a afternoon I will see a "crazy" driver. The worst part is the "crazy" ones do unpredictable things. Once you have spotted a "crazy" they are easy to keep track of. What is crazy you ask? Exiting from the left lane of a 4 lane highway. Merging into the left lane of a 4 lane highway (yes, come off the merging ramp and going straight to the left lane). Traffic normally flows between 75-80 mph (5-10 over). While going 80 I've had a car pass me at 100 (estimate) and they did so by cutting off the car in the left lane (2 lanes). At the time I estimated that their front bumper cleared my rear bumper by about a foot, definitely not more than 2 feet, a crazy. What else,... (we'll use colors to keep this straight) seen a silver car (4 lane highway, 70+ mph) go by me in the far left lane, change two lanes right to try and pass cars (red car, blue car) in two left lanes. The red car was in the far left lane and was passing the blue car in the 2 lane from the left. Another car (brown car) in far left lane came up. The red car passed the blue car on the left and the silver car (crazy) passed the blue car on the right. The blue car had another car (black car) about 1 1/2 car lengths in front of it. The silver car (crazy) encountered more traffic in the two right lanes and so they changed two lanes to the left (far left lane) by cutting through the space between the blue and black car and in the process cut off the brown car which was passing the blue car on the left. Again, this was a 70-80 mph. Several years ago NC cut the drivers education program (funding?) from the public school system. Driving here makes me thing of driving in India or Mexico City, everything is a free for all.
Another example of drivers in NC. That car making the U-turn at 16:05. I've seen them do that here when I was at half the distance and driving my Tundra. I cannot stress enough that some of the drivers here just do not care or are unafraid or something, I don't know.
Really enjoy watching the first rides ! I do not believe audio will ever be properly conveyed through recording. I do have a 2014/18 ( long story but all factory) MV Agusta F3 800 that you need to ride. i live in the west Ga area. The Honda is nice never personally rode one, only harleys and suzukis.