that is sweeter looking than the 2020.. wish i had the cash to grab one....... paint scheme is awesome.. so sad no red in the US.. and btw 8049 pounds(pound sterling)??? translates to 11,266 dollars.. they are selling for 9600 dollars over here in the US. so im not sure whats up with that.. seems your paying a lot more than we would.. should be 6900 pounds for you..
Honda being stubborn with the 4 cyl might actually pay-off now. With the 600cc class pretty much dead, this is the only middleweight 4-cyl bike you can get. It doesn't have the 600s top end but with the trade-off of being *actually* street-rideable. And with the competition being some flavor of parallel twin, the engine makes the bike stand out. Yeah, it doesn't have the low-end grunt of the p-twins and is on the heavier side, but with some buyers, the 4cyl sound alone still has that *dream bike* connotation, especially in countries where the bigger bikes (400cc and up) are a rarity. The 4cyl makes it an achievable aspirational bike.
Greece? Do you have an A2 or A license? If you are restricted to 47.5kw for your bike, take the tracer 700. It will be way more fun, for everyday riding. otherwise. Test drive both and make up your own mind
Hey chaps. Dan please make a video in order to compare in depth the trident and the CB650R. It just came to greece and the two bikes look way similar. Please enlight us :)
10:50 i LOOOOVE that bronze colored engine cover, and how the exhausts are visible through the chassi like ribs. Could almost buy a CBR650R just for that alone.. But i'm still leaning towards a Kawasaki Ninja 650 for the even torque / power band.
Nice review Dan. I’ve been waiting for you to ride the 2021 CBR650R. Looks really nice and seems to be a bit better than the last model. This is definitely my next bike as I love the styling and plenty of power for the road. Glad you are well, catch you on the next one 👍🏻
Honda bikes are such a treat, definitely the more “mature” option when compared to the other Japanese brands. But sometimes you just want good quality and smooth fun, specially for a daily. Every bike and manufacturer has a place.
I picked up my 2021 cbr650r 2 weeks ago, I'm Australian so I have the lams version. You can feel that the bike is being restricted, apart from the power the bike is absolute dream to ride
I have a 2020 CB650R and it was also LAMS restricted. I flashed it using a PowerGate 3 ECU flasher from DynoBike down in Melbourne. $950 for the kit and it included the OEM intake snorkels. The difference is insane, only when you ride a full power model you notice just how much the restrictions hold it back. Highly recommend it if you aren’t on P’s anymore.
Yeah, the Lams restrictions on this are a joke. I've got a cbr500r and I walk my mates cbr650 on highway pulls or drag races. And he's been riding longer than me. They legit halve the power and the throttle.
@@Dan13221322 is the legal to do in Australia ? I’m looking at getting a lams. Confused between this and ninja 650. I’m 6’3 104kg. You reckon cbr will be comfy ?
@@farokhs1947 it’s not recommended if you are still on a Learners licence. I’m NSW and there is no way of listing the bike as a non LAMS model as it was only released here as a restricted version and NSW do not recognise de restricted lams bikes. It’s hard for others to tell including the police if you have a de restricted bike but it should be your insurance company you should worry about. It’s hard for them to tell but if they find out they will void the policy and put your premiums up to ridiculous prices. I’m 6’7 and 120kg so you should be fine on a CB. I tried s few lams Kawasaki’s but they just didn’t fit me.
I've had one of these 21 CBR650R's for about a month now, mine is A2 restricted but I've been consistently blown away everytime I take it out for a ride, I can back all the credit you are giving the suspension it does a great job and really does help boost rider confidence. Anyone watching this that may be considering purchasing one of these gems, DO IT! I gurantee you won't regret it. I can't wait to get the restrictor out next year to fully benefit from everything this bike has to offer but even restricted it's still an absolute joy with plenty of poke. Thank you, great review!
How much is the fuel consumption when your bike is 35kw for change instructions engine? As I know in normal which is 70kw power fuel consumption is 20.4km/L ? I want to know if I change that for 2 year can affect to reduce fuel consumption or no
@@playergame7600 I get around (5.5 litres) per (100 km) = 18.1818182 km per litre with or without the restriction. If you want low fuel conumption you should look for a 1 or 2 cylinder bike like the ninja 650. Or you can install a power commander and programm it for less fuel conumption or even to take lower octane at the cost of power
Why bother with a restrictor kit?😂 Your not ever gonna get pulled by a cop looking for it. And if you get into a crash you can tell your insurance it was on there. They can't prove that, plus they give you a few weeks. Not sure why so many of you actually get these kits? It's a money grab and ain't nobody checking to see if you have it on.
By far the slowest inline-4 bike In production since the 90s cbr250rr. They should have given the cbr650rr the same treatment and turned it into a lawn mower parallel twin with how little power this thing packs
Sure footed it a great way of describing it. I got my 2022 CB650R about 10 days/1,300km ago and I would agree about the feeling of stability that it gives. It definitely gives confidence to go faster. Haven't had any issues with the Dunlops either.
Got mine today! Coming from a ninja 400. I love it !! Dan is right it is a more sporty position. I'm 5'10 and 158lbs and I fit perfectly. I hate the levers......clutch is just ok. Front brake needs adjustment. Its not adjustable in position like after market ones. The wheel on the lever is for the firmness of the front brake....(??) Feels smooth and comfortable but the rear shock is still on the 2nd position of adjusting so very soft. The mirrors are....antiques......no clic in position for it either. And they vibrate a bit too.....may make some type of rubber washer like I had on the ninja. 5500rpm vibrates a bit. You feel it in the tank. Maybe heavier bar ends will absorb a bit more from the front...? It did on the buzzy ninja 400. So far first day of ride it's a blast. Power everywhere and whenever. I dint think I'll ever need more actually. If you're a mature rider with previous bikes its the perfect one for touring and sports. The RS660 will be more sports plus touring, if you still hesitated😉
The vibrations are nothing. Motorcycles vibrate. Get used to it. I guess you have limited seat time in big thumpers and v-twins? Count yourself lucky with the small buzzes from a 4cyl :)
Thanks Dan. Nice looking bike in the red colour. Great price vs RS660, but that has a more comfortable seating position rather than classic sports bike. It’s good that there are more options with mid range engines.
If you're a new rider and want a sport bike. Get this! I was considering a 300cc because I had never rode before. After 2 weeks of riding I am so happy I got a 600. I already want the fireblade. Soon!
I'm considering this for my next bike. The only things I would change right from the start is swapping out the sprockets, -1 up front and +2 in back to give it a bit more power down low, and the tires need to go and get swapped with a set of Dunlop Q3+.
As a 2020 CB650R owner I’ve always wondered how the new 2021 big piston forks faired compared to the ones on mine. A bit gutted to hear they’re that much better aaaargh.
Hi Dan, thanks for the review, bike looks lovely. I ended up going for the CB650R because I'm just too tall for the CBR. Loving the naked version and the improvements on the 2021 are spot on. Just a quick feedback on the screen. I've noticed that when the sun shines straight to it it's when I see it better, it seems to come to life (not that we get much sun in the UK :) ) anyways, thanks again for the review.
Would you mind tell me how tall are you? I'm around 185/186 cm and I'm a little concerned when it comes to bike size, I don't know which one should i buy
@@BT-Zoki Hi, sure. I'm 1.88. I held the CB650r for almost 1 year. When I took it back to the dealership for the 1st service I got a NC750x DCT as a replacement till mine was done, basically I spent around 7 hours on the NC, and I'm going to be honest with you, I felt so much better on the NC. I have then decided to change the CB650 for the NC, and I don't regret it. For my height, the NC was a much better choice. Hope you make the right choice too, ride safe.
I am Very seriously considering buying this bike. Perfect timing for me that you tested this bike now (i'm already a subscriber. Have been since you tested the 2019 CBR650R back in early 2019). Great video.
Bought a new 2021 model some weeks ago after i saw ur review .this bike is so smooth perfect for an experienced rider who want some Twisties fun but also touring or for a new rider on super sport category.stay safe greetings from Greece
Looking like good around town, local road and shorter distance ride bike, but that depends on you and your willpower to travel :) I would gladly switch to this from vfr750 and have this light bike again XD
Did you miss the 4 or 5 times I mentioned the new suspension? 😉 It's much better due to the new forks but if you already have one I wouldn't rush out to swap. Gear clunk's are in apparently..... 😁
@@Englishbikerdan I was considering getting one but for me its just the dash that lets it down. Havent ridden the new one but cant wait to try out the suspension
@@callumdean Dash isn't much different tbh. Some slightly larger fonts but it's not bright enough. They need to talk to Triumph, the Trident LCD part of the screen is so bright!
Which one was better fun to ride? Trident 660 or the CBR 650R? Curious to know even though they're both in different segments, though same displacement class.
Very attractive nice bike from the front. Very ugly low bike from the end. The tail is very short and lack of sharpness. From the back, it looks same like the 150cc honda used for food delivery. In general it dosen't fit at all a tall person. I mean 180 cm and up ...
I put my deposit down on the 2023 CBR 650r. The Kawasaki ZX-6r is $1400 more than this and is much more track oriented than the Honda. I prefer the CBR
Nice review. The softer front suspension sounds more comfortable on the '21 CBR650R. I also like the new licence plate holder which isn't on my 2020 CBR650R. It is unfortunate the max torque is no longer at 8,000 rpm. Sounds like from the higher revs to get the same torque bottom torque range has also gone from 3,500 to 5,000 rpms. In future thought I would not mind adding this one to the shed & have the 2020 & 2021 models because of the differences if I saved up for the new one. Has the gearing changed? Mine does around 5,000 rpms in 6th gear at 110 km/h on the highway.
I keep looking at one of these as my next bike coming from a 125 it’s big jump for a road bike but I have been riding on an off motor cross since I was a young kid unsure what to do 🤷🏻♂️😂
Most people ride on the road and most people are not Marc Márquez. Most people therefore will be able to wring almost every last drop of performance out of this bike on the twisties. It's a totally realistic good value purchase. Litre-plus sport bikes are *absolutely fantastic* if you have deep pockets and you like going on the track each week and you travel every month to Germany to ride the unrestricted autobahns cos then you can exploit their genuine 190 mph/300 kph potential on a regular basis and get the best value out of your purchase.
I still don’t like that USBs are being put under the seat. Like, if I want battery it’s because I want to use my phone sat nav up front...wtf good is my phone charging in the “boot”?!
@@Englishbikerdan yeah, you cant get them new anymore but maybe you can find a used one in a honda dealership :p would be interesting to see you on that
1993 CBR600 - 100hp and 63nm . 28 years later CBR650 - 93hp and 63nm of torque. I even remember my FZR250 4 stroke had 45hp and that was from 1987 or something.
@@Englishbikerdan most people can't even use 60hp properly. I just wish the old 400s would get remade. I bought a rc390 for a laugh but if it had 60hp it'd be perfect. Now it's all about fitting things into licence classifications.
16:05 - the starting price for the CB650R in The Netherlands is €9798 and €10798 for the CBR650R, which also isn’t on UK levels. I suspect the price to be better elsewhere in Europe because in The Netherlands we have an additional tax (called BPM) where the added cost is based on the emissions of the bike (or car for that matter)
As a owner and first time rider, I purchased2023 brand new z400 and I suggest a used. Altho greet bike , u will get bored quick and want more power. It is great beginner bike but it's exactly that a " beginner bike ". I highly suggest a used one learn and buy what u like. It's great nimble bike but ull want more power as u learn. Or buy this and slowly learn eventually I feel it'll be the same as long as u dont go reckless with the bike. Hopefully this helps on ur decision.
That's a different class bike tbh. It's not really a fair comparison and I don't think think there's anything that matches the performance of the Aprilia 660's.
In india it costs around 10182.75 pounds.. Which has increased around 2k pounds more compared to last year..thats so sad..we would appreciate if they would provide inbuilt quick shifter or two riding modes at least to justify that increased cost but nothing.. And now we're in a dilemma whether or not to go for this bike..
Nice roads around Pirbright! Bike seems nice and great as an intro to bigger capacity bikes. Start smaller before going full size "that's what she said hahaha"
A response! You're awesome bro. Now subscribed! I have heard the exhaust system is slightly different and akrapovic website says they are releasing it soon, but it has said that for over 2 months now. Also the puig windscreen isn't out and I had to deal with wrong parts shipped from revzilla that was listed for the bike. But was clearly the wrong part and they told me that had tested it. Which turned out to be a lie.
I'm debating between this and the Street Triple R as my next bike. Which would be better for road riding? Thanks for making another video and nice to see you riding again!
Street Triple would be better for "road" as it's a naked and would be a bit more comfortable but on this you'd get better wind protection with fairings and whatnot
It seems weird to me that in an age where bike companies are leaning towards useable, low down torque, Honda would reduce it and put it further up the rev range..?
@@Englishbikerdan Thanks for replying! I had a CBR500R and sold it to upgrade to a 650R but then COVID happened last year, delaying. I really want a usable I-4 because it just sounds way better than a parallel twin. Would be nice to test ride both, but I feel test rides here in the states are rare. Cheers!
I had the predecessor to this bike the cbr650f. It sold alongside the cbr600rr. I think brand new it was just a shade over £6k. This new bike for what it is, is too over priced for basically the same bike. For a little bit more a kawasaki 636 would be my choice. This bike is good for a first big bike as it is quite forgiving, very linear and smooth. This should not be seen as a cbr 600rr replacement but as an everyday easy to handle machine in race attire. I do miss my cbr 650 and sometimes consider getting this new model. The price keeps me away though, it seems to be marketed as supersport bike when it isn't. Lovely bike none the less.
Right now I have a 2023 xr650l just for a commuter, but now the full fairing sportbikes are growing on me. I still need to test ride one of these but my next bike will be this or a ninja 650 when I’m old enough for my insurance to not be $200 a month😅
a one day ride is not really knowing the bike - anyone know of a long term owner? the only one i found he had 20k miles on it regular maintanece no real issues
I do like this bike and also the CB650R and they are similar but id like to see a CBR600rr with the exhaust under the frame like those in 2000's...I loved them
I keep hearing around that this bike is a great beginners bike. I have never ridden a motorcycle before. I use my bicycle for small commutes in town, but was looking on buying this motorcycle for (fun) motorway commutes. I also looked at the ninja 650, but the sound of an inline 4 is just something else...what do you think? Is this a good bike for someone like me?
I gave the 2023 model a test ride yesterday. I'm a short guy (167 cm) and although this isn't my first time with sport bikes, I kinda felt the sitting position for this was quite aggressive and low. Felt my lower back ache abit during the time I had it. What are your thoughts on the sitting position?
I have this machine and I love it. Sure one can tire from sitting position, but all you need do is pull over in a nice spot and stretch a bit. I did that with all of the machines I’ve owned. I think it’s just good practice for safe riding.
Honda really gets the sport bike lines right. The smooth seat style is so much better than the dropped seats of the other bikes.
that is sweeter looking than the 2020.. wish i had the cash to grab one....... paint scheme is awesome.. so sad no red in the US.. and btw 8049 pounds(pound sterling)??? translates to 11,266 dollars.. they are selling for 9600 dollars over here in the US. so im not sure whats up with that.. seems your paying a lot more than we would.. should be 6900 pounds for you..
Such a good looking bike
How does the 650r compare to the 500r? Is the seating position similar or is the 650r a lot more sporty?
Cbr500r is definitely more comfortable.
Between the two this bike of the Triumph Trident ?
Whichever suits you better. 👍
@@Englishbikerdan Thanks mate
Honda being stubborn with the 4 cyl might actually pay-off now.
With the 600cc class pretty much dead, this is the only middleweight 4-cyl bike you can get. It doesn't have the 600s top end but with the trade-off of being *actually* street-rideable. And with the competition being some flavor of parallel twin, the engine makes the bike stand out.
Yeah, it doesn't have the low-end grunt of the p-twins and is on the heavier side, but with some buyers, the 4cyl sound alone still has that *dream bike* connotation, especially in countries where the bigger bikes (400cc and up) are a rarity. The 4cyl makes it an achievable aspirational bike.
Exactly why I loved my naked CB650R. They are actually different. Honda getting braver these days with design, I like it.
@@Englishbikerdan Hah Agree! Love the reviews by the way. Keep up the good work!
@@aria0135 Thanks mate! 👍
I have 8 months to decide about my future bike.this or tracer 700...every day i change my mind!cheers from greece!
Interesting cross shopping
Take the Honda
Greece? Do you have an A2 or A license? If you are restricted to 47.5kw for your bike, take the tracer 700. It will be way more fun, for everyday riding. otherwise. Test drive both and make up your own mind
Haha, I've been there. Who am I kidding? I'm constantly bike shopping in my mind! 😂
@@MiniKodjo i have car license!but i am 41 years old and i will take A license with no problem(i think)!
Hurray for the useful "600" class returning! Just in time for everyone to be told not to use petrol any more!
The entitled generation in 2100 will be laughing at the old bikes using clutches and gear change levers.
@@wolfpackpete6408 Maybe, but it sure is more fun
@@xx_stricks_xx1761 those future bikes will be faster and easier, but the feeling of going through the gears and hearing the roar will be lost
@@wolfpackpete6408 Sadly
You're high if you think that shit will ever happen. Lol
I still have my -19 CB650R and it has 32000km on the clock and I just love it! Blacked out now, looks good!
Thats a lot of riding
Any issues at 32,000km? I have a 2020 and only has over 3,000km on them 😜
@@RUBBERNMETAL No issues at all. Runs like a Swiss watch 👍😁
@@johnDukemaster did already your valve adjustment?
@@themarvelousvintage76 At 36000, so soon it's time for that😁
New CB650R 2021 has a new fork also, you could do a good comparison as a previous model owner with Trident.
Yes indeed, getting one to test this week 👍
@@Englishbikerdan Awesome, I can pick up mine in 4 weeks🙌🏻❤
Hey chaps. Dan please make a video in order to compare in depth the trident and the CB650R. It just came to greece and the two bikes look way similar. Please enlight us :)
“Tickles my pickle” is a nice way to put it. Beautiful bike and great video! Got the updated naked 650R. Can’t wait for it to arrive.
Glad you like my silly phrases. 😋 Enjoy the bike 👍
10:50 i LOOOOVE that bronze colored engine cover, and how the exhausts are visible through the chassi like ribs.
Could almost buy a CBR650R just for that alone.. But i'm still leaning towards a Kawasaki Ninja 650 for the even torque / power band.
The Kwak is fun but felt like a learner bike after riding the CBR.
Nice review Dan. I’ve been waiting for you to ride the 2021 CBR650R. Looks really nice and seems to be a bit better than the last model. This is definitely my next bike as I love the styling and plenty of power for the road. Glad you are well, catch you on the next one 👍🏻
Thanks Dan, definitely a good upgrade on that suspension. Makes such a difference to me. 👍
Which one did u end up getting😂
@@AT021 going to get the CB500F as the insurance for the 650’s is really expensive
Honda bikes are such a treat, definitely the more “mature” option when compared to the other Japanese brands. But sometimes you just want good quality and smooth fun, specially for a daily. Every bike and manufacturer has a place.
Amen to that.
well said
I picked up my 2021 cbr650r 2 weeks ago, I'm Australian so I have the lams version. You can feel that the bike is being restricted, apart from the power the bike is absolute dream to ride
I have a 2020 CB650R and it was also LAMS restricted. I flashed it using a PowerGate 3 ECU flasher from DynoBike down in Melbourne. $950 for the kit and it included the OEM intake snorkels. The difference is insane, only when you ride a full power model you notice just how much the restrictions hold it back. Highly recommend it if you aren’t on P’s anymore.
Yeah, the Lams restrictions on this are a joke. I've got a cbr500r and I walk my mates cbr650 on highway pulls or drag races. And he's been riding longer than me. They legit halve the power and the throttle.
@@Dan13221322 is the legal to do in Australia ? I’m looking at getting a lams. Confused between this and ninja 650. I’m 6’3 104kg. You reckon cbr will be comfy ?
@@farokhs1947 it’s not recommended if you are still on a Learners licence. I’m NSW and there is no way of listing the bike as a non LAMS model as it was only released here as a restricted version and NSW do not recognise de restricted lams bikes. It’s hard for others to tell including the police if you have a de restricted bike but it should be your insurance company you should worry about. It’s hard for them to tell but if they find out they will void the policy and put your premiums up to ridiculous prices. I’m 6’7 and 120kg so you should be fine on a CB. I tried s few lams Kawasaki’s but they just didn’t fit me.
@@Dan13221322 thanks a lot Dan. That’s great insight. I’m in NSW as well. This info really helps. 6’7 wow, I thought I was tall lol
I've had one of these 21 CBR650R's for about a month now, mine is A2 restricted but I've been consistently blown away everytime I take it out for a ride, I can back all the credit you are giving the suspension it does a great job and really does help boost rider confidence. Anyone watching this that may be considering purchasing one of these gems, DO IT! I gurantee you won't regret it. I can't wait to get the restrictor out next year to fully benefit from everything this bike has to offer but even restricted it's still an absolute joy with plenty of poke. Thank you, great review!
How much is the fuel consumption when your bike is 35kw for change instructions engine? As I know in normal which is 70kw power fuel consumption is 20.4km/L ?
I want to know if I change that for 2 year can affect to reduce fuel consumption or no
@@playergame7600 I get around (5.5 litres) per (100 km) =
18.1818182 km per litre with or without the restriction. If you want low fuel conumption you should look for a 1 or 2 cylinder bike like the ninja 650. Or you can install a power commander and programm it for less fuel conumption or even to take lower octane at the cost of power
How’d you get the restrictor done? Looking to get one on my A2 licence too
Why bother with a restrictor kit?😂 Your not ever gonna get pulled by a cop looking for it. And if you get into a crash you can tell your insurance it was on there. They can't prove that, plus they give you a few weeks. Not sure why so many of you actually get these kits? It's a money grab and ain't nobody checking to see if you have it on.
I recently discovered your channel and i really love your reviews.Keep up the good work mate!
Hey, thanks for watching and welcome aboard! 👍
By far the slowest inline-4 bike In production since the 90s cbr250rr. They should have given the cbr650rr the same treatment and turned it into a lawn mower parallel twin with how little power this thing packs
And none of that matters because it's fun!
I’m also 5’7” and was concerned about the height. Thanks you for putting me at ease. This will be my first bike👍🏻
I hope you're enjoying your bike 🤙🏾
XD same
"this will be my first bike" Americans shouldn't be able to get these bikes as there first. Y'all gonna end up wrapped around a poll.
@@reposter6434 that’s the plan isn’t it
@@deeznuttz2422 it must be
This Honda is the best sport bike money can buy. and Made in Japan baby!
Yust bought it 🤤all I need now is a license 😅
I hated the Dunlop tyres that come standard best thing I ever done was change them turned her In to a new bike
My mind knows I don't need anything above CBR650R but my heart forces me to think about liter class bike 😋 and it would be a folly.
Sure footed it a great way of describing it. I got my 2022 CB650R about 10 days/1,300km ago and I would agree about the feeling of stability that it gives. It definitely gives confidence to go faster. Haven't had any issues with the Dunlops either.
I've got one for about 3 months and don't regret. After riding heavy cruisers this one gives Me much more fun .
Got mine today! Coming from a ninja 400.
I love it !!
Dan is right it is a more sporty position.
I'm 5'10 and 158lbs and I fit perfectly.
I hate the levers......clutch is just ok. Front brake needs adjustment. Its not adjustable in position like after market ones. The wheel on the lever is for the firmness of the front brake....(??)
Feels smooth and comfortable but the rear shock is still on the 2nd position of adjusting so very soft.
The mirrors are....antiques......no clic in position for it either. And they vibrate a bit too.....may make some type of rubber washer like I had on the ninja.
5500rpm vibrates a bit. You feel it in the tank.
Maybe heavier bar ends will absorb a bit more from the front...?
It did on the buzzy ninja 400.
So far first day of ride it's a blast. Power everywhere and whenever. I dint think I'll ever need more actually.
If you're a mature rider with previous bikes its the perfect one for touring and sports.
The RS660 will be more sports plus touring, if you still hesitated😉
The vibrations are nothing. Motorcycles vibrate. Get used to it. I guess you have limited seat time in big thumpers and v-twins? Count yourself lucky with the small buzzes from a 4cyl :)
do you think you could have started/ SHOULD have started on the cbr?
Thanks Dan. Nice looking bike in the red colour. Great price vs RS660, but that has a more comfortable seating position rather than classic sports bike. It’s good that there are more options with mid range engines.
Wait how do you guys in the UK do the biker wave? You ride the wrong way on the road, can't wave with your throttle hand.
We nod our heads at each other.
We don’t ride the wrong way, it’s a different way, not everything is ‘the american way’
If you're a new rider and want a sport bike. Get this! I was considering a 300cc because I had never rode before. After 2 weeks of riding I am so happy I got a 600. I already want the fireblade. Soon!
I'm considering this for my next bike. The only things I would change right from the start is swapping out the sprockets, -1 up front and +2 in back to give it a bit more power down low, and the tires need to go and get swapped with a set of Dunlop Q3+.
As a 2020 CB650R owner I’ve always wondered how the new 2021 big piston forks faired compared to the ones on mine. A bit gutted to hear they’re that much better aaaargh.
Australia doesn't have the red colour CBR650 for 2021. That so sad 😩
Hi Dan, thanks for the review, bike looks lovely. I ended up going for the CB650R because I'm just too tall for the CBR. Loving the naked version and the improvements on the 2021 are spot on. Just a quick feedback on the screen. I've noticed that when the sun shines straight to it it's when I see it better, it seems to come to life (not that we get much sun in the UK :) ) anyways, thanks again for the review.
Thanks for the info on the screen, good to know. 👍
Would you mind tell me how tall are you? I'm around 185/186 cm and I'm a little concerned when it comes to bike size, I don't know which one should i buy
@@BT-Zoki Hi, sure. I'm 1.88. I held the CB650r for almost 1 year. When I took it back to the dealership for the 1st service I got a NC750x DCT as a replacement till mine was done, basically I spent around 7 hours on the NC, and I'm going to be honest with you, I felt so much better on the NC. I have then decided to change the CB650 for the NC, and I don't regret it. For my height, the NC was a much better choice. Hope you make the right choice too, ride safe.
@@mazaribeiro What's that in feet and inches?
Never mind . Just checked. 6"2. I'm 5'11, so hopefully the bike will work for me. It does sound low, tho. Easily flat footed by a 5'7.
Thanks dear neighbor! I needed a real person live test and opinion to confirm my choice.
I am Very seriously considering buying this bike. Perfect timing for me that you tested this bike now (i'm already a subscriber. Have been since you tested the 2019 CBR650R back in early 2019). Great video.
Hey Roy, thanks for sticking around. It's a great bike for sure! 👍
Bought a new 2021 model some weeks ago after i saw ur review .this bike is so smooth perfect for an experienced rider who want some Twisties fun but also touring or for a new rider on super sport category.stay safe greetings from Greece
Enjoy your ride! Yeah it's so smooth. 👍
Looking like good around town, local road and shorter distance ride bike, but that depends on you and your willpower to travel :) I would gladly switch to this from vfr750 and have this light bike again XD
Should I be concerned with the vibration that come on at higher rpm?
So basically not much has changed lol. The new exhaust does sound abit different but that gearbox whine never gets old lol
Did you miss the 4 or 5 times I mentioned the new suspension? 😉 It's much better due to the new forks but if you already have one I wouldn't rush out to swap. Gear clunk's are in apparently..... 😁
@@Englishbikerdan I was considering getting one but for me its just the dash that lets it down. Havent ridden the new one but cant wait to try out the suspension
Don't worry new dash is updated.. You can see clearly even in to much sunlight
@@callumdean Dash isn't much different tbh. Some slightly larger fonts but it's not bright enough. They need to talk to Triumph, the Trident LCD part of the screen is so bright!
Which one was better fun to ride? Trident 660 or the CBR 650R? Curious to know even though they're both in different segments, though same displacement class.
Man, us 'Muricans really get the short end of the stick with this bike. More expensive and no Honda red :(
People gonna disagree but I think the front headlight area looks better than the rr bikes lol. Not a fan of the cut off nose look on those.
I absolutely love the red but it seems the 21 model is only available in black in the US. I might just have to look for a 19 or 20 to get that red
It wouldn't have been hard to pick what bike I would buy if only this bike was released in my country
Been riding a Rebel 300 for over 1.5 years now - and think I might want to move to the 650R - looks great!
Very attractive nice bike from the front. Very ugly low bike from the end. The tail is very short and lack of sharpness. From the back, it looks same like the 150cc honda used for food delivery. In general it dosen't fit at all a tall person. I mean 180 cm and up ...
I put my deposit down on the 2023 CBR 650r. The Kawasaki ZX-6r is $1400 more than this and is much more track oriented than the Honda. I prefer the CBR
Ma Dream bike 🥰
At 5’7 this puts my mind at ease as this is the bike I want but was worried I’d be to small for it
absolutely no problem, i'm 5'7 and drive a CBF 1000.
Nice review. The softer front suspension sounds more comfortable on the '21 CBR650R. I also like the new licence plate holder which isn't on my 2020 CBR650R. It is unfortunate the max torque is no longer at 8,000 rpm. Sounds like from the higher revs to get the same torque bottom torque range has also gone from 3,500 to 5,000 rpms. In future thought I would not mind adding this one to the shed & have the 2020 & 2021 models because of the differences if I saved up for the new one. Has the gearing changed? Mine does around 5,000 rpms in 6th gear at 110 km/h on the highway.
I keep looking at one of these as my next bike coming from a 125 it’s big jump for a road bike but I have been riding on an off motor cross since I was a young kid unsure what to do 🤷🏻♂️😂
It sounds like you'll be fine!
lucky! the 2021 in Canada are black only... gonna have to wrap it red when I get one.
12:55 ... yeah it is a good looking bike. Third time I watched this, and was drawn in by how good it looks in the thumbnail.
Most people ride on the road and most people are not Marc Márquez. Most people therefore will be able to wring almost every last drop of performance out of this bike on the twisties. It's a totally realistic good value purchase.
Litre-plus sport bikes are *absolutely fantastic* if you have deep pockets and you like going on the track each week and you travel every month to Germany to ride the unrestricted autobahns cos then you can exploit their genuine 190 mph/300 kph potential on a regular basis and get the best value out of your purchase.
True words right there. 👍
I still don’t like that USBs are being put under the seat. Like, if I want battery it’s because I want to use my phone sat nav up front...wtf good is my phone charging in the “boot”?!
I have run a cable up to the handlebars on my CB650R. Really easy to do. There is a aux socket near the headlight as far as I remember.
11:30 from how well I could see the display it looks the same I have the 2020 and it looks the same from what I’ve seen on this video.
have you ever ridden a 600rr? i cant find a review on your channel..
Sadly not, I don't think they sell them here any longer (new). I know the 600RR is a much faster and more focused bike than this 650R though.
@@Englishbikerdan yeah, you cant get them new anymore but maybe you can find a used one in a honda dealership :p would be interesting to see you on that
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Can I ask where abouts in tbe UK you're from please?
The roads look awesome compared to where I'm from. 🤣
I'm in around the Surrey area, Camberley/Farnborough. I had to try out lots of routes to find half decent ones.
1993 CBR600 - 100hp and 63nm . 28 years later CBR650 - 93hp and 63nm of torque. I even remember my FZR250 4 stroke had 45hp and that was from 1987 or something.
It's a good amount of power for road use. Less than 95bhp so it can be restricted for A2 in Europe. Smart business move.
@@Englishbikerdan most people can't even use 60hp properly. I just wish the old 400s would get remade. I bought a rc390 for a laugh but if it had 60hp it'd be perfect. Now it's all about fitting things into licence classifications.
16:05 - the starting price for the CB650R in The Netherlands is €9798 and €10798 for the CBR650R, which also isn’t on UK levels. I suspect the price to be better elsewhere in Europe because in The Netherlands we have an additional tax (called BPM) where the added cost is based on the emissions of the bike (or car for that matter)
I paid 9.999€ for my CBR650R here in Luxembourg, we get screwed with those taxes on emissions too :/
Pfft here in Israel we still have the the 2019-2020 version and it costs 17000€~ give or take a couple hundred
Is it worth buying a uk bike?
9000 in belgium without options
I like this nice Honda cbr 650🏍🏍🏍😊👌
Nice, bike but not my cup of tea. My question is are you ever going to do a review of the XSR700? :)
Probably not. I could sit on a really bouncy mattress and get the same experience as the XSR though! :D
I’ve got a Honda CB650R 2021 model with The Dunlop Max sport tires they are brilliant
Yeah, really good tyres! Cheers! 👍
Just got my honda ruckus, but this would be sweet!
Who heard the trademark Larry David Pretty Pretty Good?
I've always planned on getting a ninja 400 or a R3 for my first sports bike but then I had a dream last night about driving a cbr so now I'm here
As a owner and first time rider, I purchased2023 brand new z400 and I suggest a used. Altho greet bike , u will get bored quick and want more power. It is great beginner bike but it's exactly that a " beginner bike ". I highly suggest a used one learn and buy what u like. It's great nimble bike but ull want more power as u learn. Or buy this and slowly learn eventually I feel it'll be the same as long as u dont go reckless with the bike. Hopefully this helps on ur decision.
I like my black version waaaayyyyy better! My 2021CBR looks much sexier haha
Haha
My 2019 CBR650R is officially old now then it seems as they’ve revised it for 2021 😢😢😭
Who cares, just ride yours and enjoy! My bike is 23 years old 🤣
Are the indicators for speed and revs easy to see in the sunlight?
1000 km mark done today my cbr650r 2021 🏍
Really like the look of the CBR650R. Just wish it was a much lighter bike. I think I'd rather save a bit more and buy an Aprilia RS660.
That's a different class bike tbh. It's not really a fair comparison and I don't think think there's anything that matches the performance of the Aprilia 660's.
I think thats a nice looking bike
How did you controlled wind sound? When I am with bike my talking isn't heard. All the wind sound. What can I do, man? Any advise?
You guys whinning how "pricey" these motorbikes are, while in our country it cost x4 more🤷🏻♂️ f*ck currency.
It's all relative.
In india it costs around 10182.75 pounds.. Which has increased around 2k pounds more compared to last year..thats so sad..we would appreciate if they would provide inbuilt quick shifter or two riding modes at least to justify that increased cost but nothing.. And now we're in a dilemma whether or not to go for this bike..
Hopefully the next iteration we'll get some riding modes. 👍
@@Englishbikerdan yeah hope so.. But they'll up the price so much in india that it'll nearly be impossible to own one...
Nice roads around Pirbright! Bike seems nice and great as an intro to bigger capacity bikes.
Start smaller before going full size "that's what she said hahaha"
Haha, gotta get the Michael Scott references in where I can! 👍
the bike lost hp because of euro 5
I have this bike. Its great. But I need to customize it and there is not a lot to choose from yet. Akrapovic needs to get an exhaust going.
Does the akra exhaust from 2020 model not fit on 2021 ?
A response! You're awesome bro. Now subscribed! I have heard the exhaust system is slightly different and akrapovic website says they are releasing it soon, but it has said that for over 2 months now. Also the puig windscreen isn't out and I had to deal with wrong parts shipped from revzilla that was listed for the bike. But was clearly the wrong part and they told me that had tested it. Which turned out to be a lie.
Do you think it's comfortable enough for longer distance trips?
If you're young, yes.
@@keyboarddancers7751 Which one will serve me better for longer distances: Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX or this one?
@@ArtyYeo The Ninja simply because it's bigger and has much longer legs but it will cost you more in every way.
@@ArtyYeo i wonder the same
I'm debating between this and the Street Triple R as my next bike. Which would be better for road riding? Thanks for making another video and nice to see you riding again!
Street Triple would be better for "road" as it's a naked and would be a bit more comfortable but on this you'd get better wind protection with fairings and whatnot
@@sacul1291 thanks for the suggestion. I'm just gonna have to test ride them and figure it out.
How do you flat foot 31.9 inch seat height with just a 29 inch inseam?
Suspension sag and bike boots.
What luggage would go on this ? Top box,side cases ?
Yeah, plenty of options out there. All the same stuff that fits the CB650R will also fit this. Shad do quite a bit.
It seems weird to me that in an age where bike companies are leaning towards useable, low down torque, Honda would reduce it and put it further up the rev range..?
Maybe leaning towards the sportsbike bloodline of the CBR, and I'm sure Euro5 has had an influence.
@@Englishbikerdan yeah, I had similar thoughts. Still - it does look v sexy.
Definitely getting the CBR now!
Totally torn between this and the new Yamaha R7.
R7 does look good. I'd say build quality, Honda wins but that CP2 engine is fun. Will have to see how the R7 looks when it's out.
@@Englishbikerdan Thanks for replying! I had a CBR500R and sold it to upgrade to a 650R but then COVID happened last year, delaying. I really want a usable I-4 because it just sounds way better than a parallel twin. Would be nice to test ride both, but I feel test rides here in the states are rare. Cheers!
I had the predecessor to this bike the cbr650f. It sold alongside the cbr600rr. I think brand new it was just a shade over £6k. This new bike for what it is, is too over priced for basically the same bike. For a little bit more a kawasaki 636 would be my choice. This bike is good for a first big bike as it is quite forgiving, very linear and smooth. This should not be seen as a cbr 600rr replacement but as an everyday easy to handle machine in race attire. I do miss my cbr 650 and sometimes consider getting this new model. The price keeps me away though, it seems to be marketed as supersport bike when it isn't. Lovely bike none the less.
Absolutely beautiful bike
Right now I have a 2023 xr650l just for a commuter, but now the full fairing sportbikes are growing on me. I still need to test ride one of these but my next bike will be this or a ninja 650 when I’m old enough for my insurance to not be $200 a month😅
a one day ride is not really knowing the bike - anyone know of a long term owner? the only one i found he had 20k miles on it regular maintanece no real issues
Check out my other vids. Sadly unless I pay for every motorcycle the most I get is a couple of weeks.
I do like this bike and also the CB650R and they are similar but id like to see a CBR600rr with the exhaust under the frame like those in 2000's...I loved them
I keep hearing around that this bike is a great beginners bike. I have never ridden a motorcycle before. I use my bicycle for small commutes in town, but was looking on buying this motorcycle for (fun) motorway commutes. I also looked at the ninja 650, but the sound of an inline 4 is just something else...what do you think? Is this a good bike for someone like me?
My brain keeps saying wrong side omg
Would this be more reliable and enjoyable than the r7 for a first bike ?
The R7 is a much more track focused machine in terms of riding position. The Honda is a more sporty-road bike.
I got an mt07 2020 brand new and i wanna sell it for a cb650r ur thoughts?
I've had an MT07 and I loved the CB650R more. 😉
@@Englishbikerdan more info pls?♡
What would you like to to know?
@@Englishbikerdan difference u saw on the cb vs the mt 07 ♡
@@noahlul698 I have a comparison video about that :)
So gonna get one (next year when they're cheaper) Top review, cheers
I gave the 2023 model a test ride yesterday. I'm a short guy (167 cm) and although this isn't my first time with sport bikes, I kinda felt the sitting position for this was quite aggressive and low. Felt my lower back ache abit during the time I had it. What are your thoughts on the sitting position?
Try a CB650R if your lower back aches as it is the same motorbike with different handlebars and gives different riding stance.
Hi Dan, what do you call the previous model? Do you mean 2020 didn't have the big piston forks? Thanks
I have this machine and I love it. Sure one can tire from sitting position, but all you need do is pull over in a nice spot and stretch a bit. I did that with all of the machines I’ve owned. I think it’s just good practice for safe riding.