Why Dooku TERRIFIED Palpatine after He Dueled Yoda(ANALYSIS)
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Palpatine is gonna be horrified when he sees the 2 dookus i left in his bathroom
So, he will need to Count Dookus?
"The force is strong in this one...."
"Nah Palps, just the smell."
Your hilarious
He'd shit himself scared. Well poop
😅😅😂
Lmao!
In Legends Dooku as a Jedi And Sith was a very high midichlorian counted person which is one of the reasons Yoda wanted to train him one on one Yoda thinking a child Dookus potential in the force was enigmatic even for himself to comprehend while Yoda did not see this same potential in a child Mace nor anyone else except Anakin but the difference is Anakin was brought to the order later in life then usual and his count was the only one higher then Yodas own while Dookus was implied to be the third highest after Yoda with Mace being the fourth and Plo Koon being the fifth etc yeah.
Like Yoda told Luke, judge me by my size? As well thought as you should not, for the force is his ally
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I would like to add a small take to this topic in regards to another reason why Darth Sidious in particular was afraid of Yoda, that I believe no one has brought up which is Sidious also recognizes that Yoda too is also playing the helpless old man role, the same as he is to keep the might of his power a secret so Sidious is fearful of the full power that Yoda is hiding because if that power is to much. It can be to late.
Love these discussion videos! More long form videos please!🙏
Dooku only experienced "success" because Yoda was initially holding back, but once he saw his former Padawan was pretty much going all out and was trying to finish Yoda, he let him know he was about to get serious, thus the reason Dooku had to distract him by endangering Kenobi and Skywalker. Also, Palpatine didn't put away his lightsaber, Yoda disarmed him. This wasn't shown on screen but was referenced in the ROTS novel. Yoda is SO GOOD that when Mace once said Yoda should spar Quinlan Vos to keep up his prowess, Yoda said he already had a "sparring session" against Dooku. Thus, Dooku is not equal to Yoda.
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And, uh, additional stability?
I really enjoy these videos
1:57 That ridiculously small hit box he has!
Thanks guys! I loved how you had the “show notes” ready ahead of time and that you exchanged those ahead of time as well. From my observation, your discussion was able to flow much more smoothly and able to get into deeper details. Please keep this up as I really enjoy listening to these deep dives!
True, Dooku being able to stand up to and match Yoda in a stand up fight, one on one and draw it. Would terrify Sidious as it would prove That Dooku is just as powerful a rival as Yoda is to Sidious. Which isn't helpful to Sidious, given he plans to dispose of Dooku down the line.
They were in their 80s while Yoda was ten times older than them. The fact Dooku was at the precipice of Yoda's power made him a clear threat. What made Dooku so dangerous is how open minded he was. Willing to learn from both sides of the force and even admired Grievous for a moment. He had the teachings of both Yoda and Palpatine and could he use the dark side of the force to lenghten his life he could have surpassed them.
Dooku had to run in the end with his fight against Yoda. Yoda with his Ataru form was hammering down with acrobatic force blows that kept Dooku on the defensive, and when Yoda just reflected and absorbed Dooku's darkside lighting force attacks, he broke out and bounced! Palpatine may have been surprised at his saber ability being not the most supreme himself, Mace Windu took him out fairly easy so I can see why he may have been shook a bit.
Sidious overestimates how powerful Anakin/ Vader is... 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 Thank you for saying that.
Now say that again for all these fans in the back.
I love these breakdowns!! Do more of these.
Love your videos Stupendous
And let's not forget that Dooku trained General Grievous, so if we are talking about Yoda or Sidious fearing Grievous, they are indirectly fearing Dooku. On the ABC logic, by that train of thought, Dooku beat Anakin in Attack of the Clones and in at least two Clone Wars episodes... and if he had actually wanted to kill him, Anakin would be dead already long before Revenge of the Sith. We know why he did not kill him then, and fortunately, Anakin had time to learn. 😁 Dooku in his prime would have been quite the adversary for Anakin... and while I am not sure he'd have beat Anakin in his prime and most powerful, I think it would be very close duel. I agree that Yoda has seen for decades how good Dooku can be, so I don't think he is surprised by Dooku's skills in the stalemate.
Great discussion video, but something that can't be ignored is the fact that Dooku in Revenge of the Sith is given clear instructions by Sidious to "Take it easy on Skywalker", this is a significant reason as to why Anakin manages to kill Dooku by the time Dooku had to get serious he had already lost the duel with Anakin.
Sidious later stated Anakin was simply far stronger.
When Anakin used the darkside he was simply too strong no matter what Dooku did
Without the darkside,Anakin was slightly less powerful indeed,but only a little bit
@@newhybrid101 you're absolutely right, but momentum plays an important role in a lightsaber duel, and lightsaber combat in general more so with form 5 of lightsaber combat where once they have the momentum it's near impossible for someone to retrieve it from a Djem/So practitioner, it's even more daunting for a Makashi user as a big weakness for the form that not even Dooku could compensate for was it's lack of momentum gaining abilities, so much so that if for whatever reason a Makashi user lost their momentum that's pretty much the duel.
Yoda going all over the place with Dooku is fucking memorable!
Sitting in the theater, I wasn't at all sure that was going to work! But then, somehow, it did.
Perfectly analyzed. Dooku completely acknowledges Yoda's power. He never underestimates Yoda for a moment. Palpatine respects Yoda in a way. Loosely as you said. He would admit Yoda is superior duelist but he would give arrogant speech before about lightsaber"i don't need it,i'm beyond that,it's Jedi weapon"because this is what he is. But he would admit it.Everything about their duels is clear,how they see each other. Palpatine sees Yoda as his light side counterpart. And he is. And they try to destroy one another. Palpatine is extremely frustrated in a duel you can see. He can't win.He puts lightsaber away. May the Force be with you too😀
all this time, i’ve been appreciating, emulating, and even worshiping the Sith Lord Darth Tyranus, Count Dooku. this video and whoever this george lucas sounding guest is have turned my head and opened my eyes to true skill, power, and discipline embodied only by 2Dooku. cheers to anything but the gulp shitto treatment and i hope you give us some more analysis of his character soon
Think, that the only thing that actually surprised and terrified Dooku and Sidious about Yoda is the fact, that he can so easily deflected force lightening and send it back at the dark side user of it with ease. Something that barely any other light side master are generally capable of pulling off.
Deflecting the supposed strongest force lightning in the history of the sith... allegedly.
The regret on Yoda's face after the duel on Geonosis was almost as equally interesting to me as the duel. Yoda know's he failed. The Jedi order lost it's maneuvering ability once it got entangled in the Clone War.
Dooku didn't fight lightsaber combat using The Dark Side, that was purely just Dooku's IMMENSE skill. That's why Mace knew Dooku was his equal or knew was his superior, Vaapad wouldn't work with Dooku. Dooku dueled Yoda to a draw, he could do the same with Sidious (my favorite character). Dooku was one of, if not the best natural duelists Star Wars has ever talked about next to Tulak Hord (Sith).
Great analysis, love the Dooku videos.
What I would have loved to see, though I don’t think it’s canon anymore, is Yoda repeating the moment from… some Dooku-centered novel (I haven’t read, I’ve just seen your videos talking about it, so apologies if I can’t cite it) where Dooku is trying to talk Yoda to the Dark Side, and for just a moment, Yoda allows himself to lose control. And then he’s done with the whole experiment and becomes a light-wider again, and that brief moment alone terrifies Dooku.
Imagine Yoda going dark-side for just a moment during his fight with Siddious. Not even using the dark side to do anything, just… flexing real hard to throw Siddious off his game a bit, then getting light-side and finishing the fight.
Given how Yoda later tells Luke that the Dark Side will forever dominate your path, it’s probably better that the book is no longer canon… Yoda can’t be THAT against the dark side if he’d briefly tried it on before. He literally has personal experience that one can be dark and then revert to the light.
Keep up these discussion videos, they're great!
I truly believe that if Qui-Gon Jinn was alive the Clone Wars would have never happened he would have foiled all of Darth Sidious his plans before his plans ever began
Under Dooku's tutelage, Qui-Gon could have become a master of Makashi himself. Had he done so, I'm convinced he would have fared better against Darth Maul -- and very likely would not have died.
Don't forget Master Cboath too. Palpatine was afraid of him too and that's why he had his clone on Wayland guarding the clone facility
I think before the duel with dooku . Yoda hadn't had a real duel in a few hundred years. But his reputation from those days was much that he was considered the best in the galaxy. ( jed8 knew from training or sparing) sessions
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Didn't Palpatine tell Dooku not to kill him but try to push him to the dark side instead?
The smartest Jedi in history is Qui-Gon Jinn without a doubt
Sudious knows Dooku is an even more skilled dueliest than himself. Sidious is just vastly more powerful in the force. But Dooku is full of surprises.
Anakin defeated Dooku in lightsaber combat. Are you saying he could defeat Darth Sidious too?
@@Matthew-Anthony he beat Dooku through a combination of skill and strength. Not skill and finesse.
@@MentalMachineDid Yoda beat Dooku with strength? Dooku ran away in fear during the Battle of Geonosis.
@Matthew-Anthony Yea, mostly due to his immense power in the force. He was able to speed blitz Dooku because of his augmentation. But he's slightly less skilled than Dooku, purely in overall technique
@@MentalMachineAre you a Dooku fan boy or something? He was an excellent fencer. However, he is not better than Darth Sidious, Yoda, or Mace Windu. All three can beat him.
Hello you always make great videos could make one about Count Dooku Light Saber what happened to it after Revenge of the Sith and Order 66 . that would be a interesting video.
i have it
Can you guys make a revamp of "Did Mace Windu really defeat Darth Sidious" and How that leads up to it?
Love your vids Ty for keeping me entertained for years now!
So… about 1/3 of the way through this video, it’s occurring to me that everything I’ve heard was all in-universe lore. Which is fine. But I also am thinking of the IRL stuff. The Siddious duels in Revenge of the Sith were all kind of goofy, because mcDairmid is an old man who wasn’t expecting to be doing a lot of stunts. Not that Christopher Lee is a young buck, but McDairmid was trying to pull off the 7th form, and Lee was doing 2nd form. But more importantly, they were both fighting against a CGI Yoda. So, on the one hand, they could put CGI Yoda ANYWHERE, but on the other hand, the flesh actors had to sword fight with empty air.
And also, in Anakin vs. Dooku, Dooku was told to string Anakin along and anger him, to push him more to the dark side. I am not convinced that Anakin could have beaten Dooku, if Dooku were being serious.
Se, several times, you stated that Sidious is the stronger force wielder... But Yoda pushes back Sidious's force lightening, and over powers him?
Yoda maximizes his physicality. Dooku and Palpatine clearly fought him to a draw. Sidious arguably wins the Force battle. Since there wasn't a rematch....
Makes me wonder how things might've gone had Plagueis chosen Dooku as his apprentice instead of Palps and actually taught Dooku properly in the dark side, as opposed to Sidious who basically just gave him the watered down training course.
Palpatine got disarmed by Yoda in the Novelizationxwtf you guy's talking abiut???
Dooku being able to get Anakin and Obi-Wan to fight opposite of what they're comfortable with also just demonstrates how good of a duelist he is
Strength is Specific, Particular and Relative - second by second, especially in the context of a duel
Dooku is a master fencer who will have refined his techniques to what he is now, the original intent is to use against sith when he was still in the Jedi order, maybe saber and rapier style fencing and absolutely Dooku is deflecting, yet he isn't used to Anakin's immense power strikes of Djem so and Ataru Mix, Dooku can take on multiple opponents and set them apart, Dooku knows Ataru's inside and out of Qui-gon Jinn's style and the normal Ataru done by human, and trained in less than meter tall jedi. (this is an example of what he is used to and how he will function in those superplay )
Yoda's offense is going to be insane, he is all around like 3 Jedi knights using flurry of attacks at once or 4 Jedi attack at once.
I guess Yoda's hits per second is probably 6 or 7 naturally without the force and without exhaustion. Perhaps Yoda can absolutely parkour as tight as he can move even in 0.47 meters of space around a T-posing stilts or 175 centimeter human for fun.
Match-ups really matters and the condition of the characters.
Yoda's success as a duelist comes down to 3 things;
Time Spent Studying, Mana Regeneration, and something I call the "South Park 64" Rule.
Study Time: Yoda has had nearly 900 years to master his swordsmanship. Even if he only spent 30 minutes a day training, after about 500 years hed have more experience than any human who has trained all day for their entire life.
Mana Regen: Ataru uses the Force to power its attacks and movements, which normally means they get worse as the fight goes on, but Yoda being able to recuperate his ability to use the Force almost as fast as he uses it means he doesnt really get weaker as the fight goes on. Compare Yoda's to Qui-Gon. Both use the same form, but Qui-Gon needed to meditate during his fight with Maul to regain his ability to use the Force to fight and wasnt able effectively recuperate, whereas Yoda seems to just passively regain his Force abilities without the need for meditation.
The South Park 64 Rule: In the old South Park FPS game for the Nintendo 64, there were two characters that were essentially the best options in the game, Starvin Marvin and Ike. These two charcater were the best in competitive play because their hit box was less than half the size of other characters. Yoda's size limits the angles of attack that an opponent can use against him, making him have to worry about a lot less while on the defensive.
Do you guys think that sidious could have sand bagged Dooku with force abilities during the fight against Anikan in revenge of the sith?
So how did dooku get the ability to use force lightening if you have to be hit with it to gain the ability
I think that's just a fan fiction.
Nice look into some of the best SW characters.
Star Wars a lot of people underestimate Yoda and that's a mistake
Yoda is a master of all 7 forms, not just ataru.
Should do a what if dooku challenged palpatine after the duel with yoda
I like to think Dooku was on the verge of becoming powerful enough to defeat Sidious, and that is one of the reasons why Sidious forced the duel between him and anakin.
2:03 Yoda was so small and so dexterous it’s almost near impossible to hit him
Just curious will you be doing discussion videos on the other channel as well if so I think that would be awesome
There's another channel?!
@@SkinnyEatWorld95 yes Marvelous Wave he sometimes posts on there and he has another called Horrendous Wave to
Old Palps was definitely eager to pressure Anakin into killing Dooku! I thought it was just a "call-forward" moment of comparison to how he will one day try to coerce Luke into offing Vader in a fit of pique during their duel...but it seems to go a fair bit deeper than that.
Sidious was never afraid of any apprentice, he clowned dooku so it made no sense for him to be afraid. Plus sidious couldn't wait to truly flex his powers even though Yoda admitted he lost.
As someone who watches this channel a lot I notive u talk about the same topics a lot. I’m not bashing it or saying it’s bad and I understand because not much is coming out with star wars lore right now. And with Disney ruining Star Wars I understand I was wondering if you would maybe talk about the different political factions within the republic and go into detail about how they essentially made up the republic.
What scares Palpatine more than Dooku? 2Dooku.
SuDooku is the worst.
Neither is more powerful than the other. Yoda only proves that the light is better by biding his time and using his abilities to train the one that will bring about the destruction of the sith. Patience is more powerful than passion.
Yes I totally have to agree with everything you guys just said :D thank you for posting this i enjoyed :D
Dooku played defense and let Yoda expend energy and forced Yoda to come to him.
This makes no sense given that Palpatine doesn't think Yoda will be that much of a challenge to him a few years later.
He also assumes Palatine wasn't disarmed, when he probably was, and it was just left on the cutting room floor. He assumes. Sidious voluntarily puts his saber away. Also, the clear message was that the fight was basically even, in both the saber, and the force powers. Neither really had an advantage over the other at either. Yoda's disadvantage was that he had to defeat sidious quick, before the security arrived. Yodas advantage was that he was willing to die to defeat sidious, whereas sidious wanted to survive the fight.
Yoda definitely has more power than sidous. He's only bested because he's extremely old and he's wearing down naturally, a siths body will break down fast do to the negative effect of the dark side, some might say, it is unatural 👀 lol. 900 years of knowledge, and Yoda still holds back, probably because what he knows could destroy the immediate area or possibly the planet. And he knows the toll it takes on the body to use extreme levels of the force
Lets not forget that dookus and yoda would have spar alot when they younger
Can you please please make a video on Darth Noctyss
Count dookey took a huge Dooku ontop of Sheev's ego.
Please do what if Thrawn got a chance to take on the Vong!
DookuTERRIFIED Palpatine because he knew that Dooku LOVED Kenobi because Obi-Wan was HORRIFIED of Anakin because Anakin HATED sand because sand FEARHATELOVEHORRORADMIRELUSTTHUMBNAILCLICKBAIT.
Sideous is the more powerful and wise out the two and most agile...Dooku is arguably the better duelist though..and more disciplined..
Dookie ran from the fight why would palps be afraid of him?
hope you watched until completion
Dooku vs Maul. Who wins?
Day 391 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
Yoda literally made Dooku run for his life what are you talking about
Palpatine was one weak ass Sith. He was scared of Ventress as well. lol
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Yoda isn't the best duelist. It's known that he gets winded. So if he doesn't overcome the opponent using the force, he's done. I think it's more of intimidation that gets him the leg up mostly.
I disagree Sand People Anakin would have Destroyed Count Dooku Dooku was going to kill who stopped him I believe the Ghost of Quijon Gin got to him.
Keep up these discussion videos, they're great!