I'm gonna clock in as soon as I arrive at work 🙂
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2024
- When the manager wants you to arrive early, but clock in when the shift starts.
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Had a rule implemented that people weren't allowed to clock in early. I arrived 30 minutes early, pulled out a lawn chair and a book, and sat by the punch clock until my shift started. Most people saw the humor in it, and the ones that didn't couldn't stop me.
Im not sure what your point was. You waste 30 minutes of your time everyday.
Cus maybe they were still forced to come in early but not clock in or they had no choice due to travel constraints, so why should a company who pays on wage not salary not allowed you 30 mins over time moet companies who are like this are mega corps who are cash rich and wouldn't effect them in the slightest.
@@pompommania If they normally spend that time reading a book it doesn't matter where they do it I suppose.
@@pompommania only did it once
@@pompommaniaif he finds it worth it, then it's not a waste
Wage theft "for the good of the team that we're on" is still wage theft.
You know that's is very True It's Facts
So look deep because not every right you have is listed and those include the ones big and small businesses tread.
Upon violating our rights we do not put those right violations towards debt including salary time
AND is actionable!!
I once worked for company that told me to come in early, check my emails, THEN clock in. Nope. Laws say you get paid to work. Checking company email is work. You want me in early to check email? I clock in. They were not happy when I expressed that to them and casually mentioned the Labor Board might like to know their 'policy'.
Ha! My friend worked at a place like that. I even interviewed there like 12 years ago and they mentioned having to come in a half-hour early (unpaid) to "deal with e-mails" before starting your shift.
Yupand I noticed you used the past tense so then they casually fired you're dumbass😂😂
Ironically, the only person in the company that “has to” make sacrifices for the good of the company, is the company owner.
What kind of sacrifices? The kind where they sell to a large corporation for millions?
@kwyatt261 What kind of sacrifices? Coming earlier and staying later if needed. Figuring out what needs to be done, even outside of work hours.
Keeping up with how best to introduce innovations (if necessary) and where.
Not going on vacation when you would like, because certain things need to be taken care of.
Stuff like that.
I did it like my boss. I came in at 8, clocked in, got tea or coffee, and said hello to everybody. Somewhere around 8:15, I started to work.
"Why that late?"
"I took an example of my superior. You know, your son."
"...alright."
So you turned up to work and took a break straight away.
@@sydtopiaWithout clocking-out for it. 😮
@@sydtopiathe point went over your head
"We all have to make sacrifices for the team were on" is code for "im about to ask you to do something that's illegal."
this kind of shit is why i started my own business. ii used to work for wells fargo. my boss wanted me at work a HOUR before i clocked in. i asked was i being paid for that hour and when he said “no”, i laughed IN HIS FACE and walked away. i also contacted L & I (labor board here in oregon) because his idiotic ass sent this request in a email as well😂😂😂😂😂
wells fargo got audited by L & I and they had to pay out MILLIONS in Oregon.
this happened in the late 90’s
Not surprised hearing that about Wells Fargo. They always have new jobs popping up for a reason, they seem have the corporate model having a revolving door for employees and grinding them down once they’re in (unless you get lucky)
Well done.
That is it n
Then you can explain those sacrifices to the Department of Labor. ...oh, what's that? I don't have to come in early anymore? Cool, I'll see you at 10.
Yes..... Sacrifice... Sorry when did my place of employment become my place of worship?
I like how they can steal your time and wages but if you steal so much as a straw they call the police.
"Can I get that in an email? Thaaaanks"
We arent a team. Ur an employer, who pays an employee when they show up .
Sorry i don't work for free.
I worked as a CNA at a nursing home in MT. Management would have a fit if you clocked in one second before shift start, but also reprimand (and dock you) for clocking in one minute late. Between CNA’s, LPN’s, kitchen staff, etc, there were around 30+ staff for the swing shift. We never could get them to understand that 30+ people could not possibly clock in within one minute.
They also routinely broke MT and fed labor laws, so…
Have 30 + time clocks on the wall. Each person has their own personal punchclock. 🤣
NOT one CEO’s OR major stockholder is making ANY SACRIFICES! For the “TEAM.”
Noooooo You are wrong.
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yep- once had a boss who wanted 30 minutes free to clean the store because when the store is closed she wouldn't be making money. "ok but this is my job so I expect to make money whether you want me here for an open or closed store" .. She also wanted me to do managerial duties when her manager left but didn't want to hire a new manager or make me one, I just needed to do those duties for the same pay and title. Also said "will you go take care of that" referring to the poop on her kid's butt when she brought him to the store. No, no I won't.
Team......do you see a number on my blouse? Will the team pitch in and pay my bills? We are employees. I don't identify as a team member.
“Team” seems to mean “attend 100 unnecessary meetings a week“, and give loyalty when receiving none back.
A local call center was successfully sued for doing exactly this. This is actually illegal.
No we don't all have to make sacrifices.
They can. They just also have to face consequences of the people hit going somewhere else
My employer tried this, he asked me to come in 10 minutes early and login to work systems and so I clocked the time. When he said to spend the 10 minutes getting ready for work but to not click the time, I said okay I'm not going to argue with you. Later that day I sent a "just to clarify" email and his whole attitude changed. Needless to say, I now come in and clock in when my shift starts 😂
Literally got fired for this years ago. The most insane part is that MOST people in the office were doing the same thing. In fact, I learned it from them. I had only been there for 3 months and was clocking in and out the same way as my co-workers, because they were the ones who taught me when and how. Got fired and called a thief, because apparently I was "stealing from the company". Well. The company can keep getting "stolen from" by 90% of its employees as far as I'm concerned, good luck
Blizzard software tried to say this exact thing, "arrive abt 15 mins early, start all your daily re-installs and get ready, then clock in when your shift starts; you need to do this bc you're basically unable to work while everything is installing"
If you're giving me orders to complete, then im on the clock, no exceptions.
They tried to fight me on this so i started arriving 10 seconds before my shift starts. you cant tell me to arrive 15 mins early and NOT clock in.
Blizzard is now owned by Bill Gates I missed the original world of Warcraft developers
This is a crime (:
If they say 9:50 then they're paying you for that.
For years I used to be at a clinic to work 15 min early and clock in and get stuck when people handed me something or caught me in a room for patient needs. On my review, my boss said I was always late to work. So from then on I arrived no more than 5 min prior to clock in (just in case for traffic) and clock in at time and sit there a moment. Then get up and work. Funny how that person got all the stuff I had been doing those 15 min. Now I only get talked to if Im more than 5 min late clocking in!! 😂
At my work, hourly staff can clock in 5 mins early unless we ask if you can or want to clock in early. Salary staff, it’s on the honour system so just don’t question anyone. If I work longer one day I’ll leave early another.
At another job, it was salary and the other girl would show up 25 mins late, take smoke breaks plus her lunch break, so I started taking a “smoke break” and she got mad I was always late from lunch. If you can smoke, I can take a break
😮😮My employer did not allow hourly employees to turn on their computers until 8:00. No working off the clock.
I don’t know why a company can’t just allow you to clock in up to 10mins early and clock out 10 mins early if you do so nothing is overtime OR ILLEGAL. Having a HERD of ppl standing at a clock to punch in between 8-8:01 while ALSO requiring them to get there 10 mins early JUST IN CASE… what a headache
Because they don't want to pay you or every other employee for those 20 mins
Requiring someone to arrive early and not get paid for the entire time they are at work is insane....
Is illegal
Wage theft is very common these days.
Luckily, MY boss doesn't care. I come in a whole hour early every day I work and get payed for it.
“payed” for it? I hope you aren’t a proofreader or an editor. Most people get “paid” for working!😊
A good boss can make work SO MUCH more bearable while a bad one can easily make it hell
@@JMWexperience most people don't have English as their first language.
@@JMWexperience🤓
@@zyamadeadborn1785 You are incorrect. English is the most common language in the world. Look it up!
They tried this at my former work, no one would do it.
My former work also wanted us to be available 24/7 with no compensation unless called but with punishment if we didn’t answer a call in 15 minutes. At first they wanted our personal cell numbers (we wouldn’t provide this) then said they would provide cell phones but the company got an overwhelming “no” for an answer.
Prior to this I had taken a pay cut to transfer departments because I hated the department I was in. Later on the company tried to force my new department to work in my old department as “needed”. (Read: poor planning by management). They didn’t want to pay the full hourly wage of someone in that department, just a percent increase in our usual hourly wage.
When that didn’t work, they forced employees to choose to be “in office on call” for the other department for a slight rise in pay but those of us who chose not to do that had our wage frozen. After that, people seldom got called to the second department and the rest of us were permanently stuck in our wage bracket. This was then written into the next contact. New hires had to agree to work in either department but at an hourly rate that was less than that of people permanently in that department.
Note that you had to have the training and job skills identical to those making more and the job was the same, just the pay was less. This was the companies way around the contract.
Most of this foolishness is a power move. Just like working from home.
During the pandemic my departments “numbers” for work being done, attendance, etc went up significantly. That didn’t keep the company from dragging us into the office to work, in small groups for 2-3 days a month per group. Maybe the numbers were too good and showed how useless middle and lower management actually is.
This is illegal in most states now if your employer is asking for this call osha
Labor board would handle this.
OSHA is safety issue related, NLRB is labor Issue related.
Not only is it wage theft . It , clocking in , enables responders to know how many are in the building should there be an emergency of some type .
Time to have a frank and candid discussion with a law firm that specialized in employee relations. And also to begin looking for another job.
These lawyers are worth their weight in gold. Be sure to make notes discreetly as soon after something is said or done, with date and time of occurrence and what was said or done. Keep it short, name names and make it legible. This will actually count in court.
There are also some non profit organizations who will help you.
I may be a clown for the man. But homie don't work for free.
In Living Color won't fly today.
@@Blundabus1337 HOMIE DON'T PLAY DAT
While a little exaggerated, these clips definitely highlight how many workers (especially hourly workers) face horrible supervisors and/or managers all the time. Document EVERYTHING. As one of these clips mentions, send a 'confirmation e-mail' after every single encounter like this. Employers may not require, or even ALLOW hourly employees to work off the clock. Hourly employees cannot be asked or allowed to "volunteer" their time. Keep records.
Honestly, there's a simple way to avoid this. When you go in for a job interview, always say you want a supervisor to lead by example when they ask what you want in a boss.
Real talk, I dont mind getting in 10 minutes early and not clocking in until 9 if I see my boss busting their butt. . . then again, I might be a little bias because I just got a raise after having to cover for people like the woman on the employee in this video. If they play games with you, learn how to beat them at their own game.
@@Blundabus1337 With good management, what I said wouldn't be necessary. Unfortunately, it often IS necessary.
this is every call center, ever!
Be there 15 minutes early, unpaid, to boot and get everything set up and ready to take the first call at the time your shift is supposed to start.
Yup. Been there. I’d clock in maybe a minute before shift then have everything ready by 5 minutes after my shift start time. They hated me (TFB) but couldn’t do anything about it without getting in trouble with the government.
I’ve been in great unions, this wasn’t one of them. I stopped going to meetings. My voice didn’t count.
@@rowanhard we were not union and the company I worked for got away with a lot of now violations.
Beware of the word Team
At my previous job, we were all quite laidback with minor overtime.
Field where you learned everyday so it was win/win.
Then some dipsh1t upstairs decided we had to clock in / out precisely everyday. For remote/intervention work it was utterly impractical but after some complaint we did.
At the end of the first full month… the higher up -was fired- /had to take care of family matters when the total bill to pay overtime was released…
I’ve had them ask for as much as 30 minutes…. Like 👍 😀
🖕
These are all too realistic! 😂😂💀
so real
I worked for a company as a truck driver. They wanted me to come to work 30 minutes early to do the walk around inspection of my truck and not get paid.. they couldn’t comprehend why that was such an issue for me.
This woman is confused, get ready to work after you punched in.😅😊
Used to work for a company that wanted you to be on the shop floor in your coveralls for the morning safety meeting and work assignments 15 minutes before your shift started. Uh, that's part of working.
Nonsense like this is a reason for everyone to join a union.
Unions don't help, @ least not where I'm from. It's just another thing taking a peice of your paycheck every month & doing nothing for you.
@@zero95lucky Baloney. I've been in a Building Trades union for 45 years. We have better pay, benefits and conditions than the non-union construction workers. We have better training and safety protections. We have a contract that protects us from the kind of silliness in the video. 'UNITED WE BARGAIN. DIVIDED WE BEG' is our motto for a reason.
You pay dues so you have representation in bargaining and job disputes.
Yes they do! You've obviously never been in a union, you're just spewing non-union rhetoric! TROLL!@@zero95lucky
Unions just take your money
@@Grendelbcgood for you. The union I belonged to just took your money and was useless.
Employers who pull this are the worst. I've seen it twice. I never obeyed this rule. One insisted that staff had to be in office from 8.45 because the phone lines open at 9am=5pm. But, like, why not stagger the shifts and have some people start at 8.30 then, and some people start 9.30-5.30 so no one has to get stuck on a call at 4.55 when they're about to finish for the day? So many people just go along with this. It's nonsense. I turned up at 8.58. I am logged on for 9am. And I get all my work done! Another employer insisted on it for literally no reason. My train arrives at 9am, I'd get into the office at 9.03 (I was opposite the train station.). Take it up with the railway system! Otherwise: What. Is. The. Problem? I don't answer phones, most of my responses need to be more considered than instant yes/no. Who cares??? WHO ACTUALLY CARES???
Power hungry lower management on a power trip.
As I would get into the drivers restroom about 15 minutes early and the transport clerk went to hand me the paperwork and keys for the truck, are you clocking me in. He said no, I replied with “ I’ll get it when I’m due to clock in “ the look on his face was a picture 😁😁😁
Priceless!
THIS is REAL.
I get to clock in 10 minutes before my shift where I work
I'm not petty with minutes. When a boss or manager says something petty like that they usually regret whatever I tell them lol like good Ole Veronica here lol
Damn. Makes me so glad where I work. I start at 6am and they GIVE us 10 mins to sign into our computer and log in and take calls, so I don't have to start taking calls until 6:10.
I had one employer who wouldn't allow you any overtime, so you had to put on your timecard your actual arrival time, and the office manager's desk was in view of the door so he'd know if you fudged it. Also, they wouldn't allow you to be late, and if you were early you couldn't wait inside because they were afraid you could get the labor department after them if you were in the building and not billing them for your time. So, if you arrived early, you had to wait outside. In winter. In Boston. And you had to step in at 9:00am *to the minute*, because they'd threatened that if you arrived at 8:59 or 9:01 you'd be fired. (So you had to have a watch and regularly make sure it was set to the company clock.)
Picture a bunch of people standing around outside in a blizzard with no gloves on because they had to check their watches.
Not surprising or uncommon.
So when is the company going to sacrifice by paying the employee for the time they are working and quit undercutting them ?
Never. Profit and power are always at play.
Advanced Auto Warehouse tried this.
Maaan my computer takes sometimes 10 minutes to let me log in. Haha
I always arrive and start 1 minute before my shift starts. 😊
20 years and I come in 30 minutes early
I've worked many places. Would come in early to put whatever in my locker/cooler. Then clock in.
I've worked for a company that said it was ok to clock in 10 mins early or clock out 10 mins late. I did both. We were always under scheduled with a maximum work week of 32 hours a week. Exploiting this one rule added another hour and a half to my paycheck every week.
I had the same convo with a former employer.
If the words "this feels weird" ever come up during a conversation at work, stop what you're doing and call your doctor. Either you've just hurt yourself or your being assaulted.
I've only worked at 1 place like that.....I would come in early and eat my breakfast in the breakroom and then when 8am hit I clocked in and started my day......that tried that 10 min crap but I wasn't going to have it.......I've only known call centers to try and implement that rule since they want your computer up and all you software ready to go because those phones are cut on at 8am on the dot......it took literally 3 secs to log in and pull up the one absolutely necessary program and the others could wait.....so stupid, I will never work at a call center again
Same experience here. Call centers are the absolute worst place to work.
One of the IT guys was under my desk fixing a problem when he cut his hand and started bleeding like crazy. He quickly turned white and I went to help him get to a restroom. My supervisor saw me and chewed my a$$ out for leaving my desk. (The guy was seriously bleeding). I quickly told her what happened and she said “I don’t care, that’s his problem. Get back to your desk and take calls”. She was a real sweetheart.
Side note: someone else not from the call center helped him and took him to get stitches. He was ok in the end.
At UPS they have a single clock-in location. When they did this id end up in a line of 12 people who had to manually punch in their numbers. I wouldnt be physically able to clock in until 5-15 minutes after if I was in the back of said line. They still want you there 15 minutes early tho so they get a head count
I was about 5 minutes late once and I got lectured that I had to be at my desk, logged in, and ready to go right at 9:00.
My employer tried this and as cruddy as my union was, they put a stop to it. Getting logged in etc is part of the job so pay is required.
Ok ill clock in 30 min early but dont complain when i leave 39 min early for lunch and going home .
Illegal as hell!!!
So they want you to work 45 extra hours of work a year for free...
Most companies, large and small, yearn for “the good ol’ days”, if you know what I mean.
Nope I do not do charity for profit only companies
No work for 10 minutes either
This turned into a lawsuit back when I worked Cablevision. I think it was 2005.
All I hear in this sectipn is a lot of shit talking and lying 😂😂
What happened at the end there? Did she find out the manager was a robot stuck on a loop?
*7!*
I’ve never worked anywhere that didn’t insist that I clock in as soon as I possibly could and pay me for every single minute of work, even if it was OT. I don’t know where these companies are that are so big on violating labor laws but I never met any of them.
Youre a lucky ducky
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Huh, yeah no. I am not wasting time on others behave, even when I get paid. Even more glad I don't work at an office.
How many different versions of this video exist on TH-cam ? Copycats galore.
Not legal
Unless it is stated in my employment contract that I arrive early without pay, you must pay me if you require me to be at work early. That is law.
At my last job the clock was rigged in such a way that it would always set to the next quarter of an hour.
So if you clocked in at 9:46 it would get set to 10:00. And if you were 1 min late it would set the time to 10:15.
And of course for clocking out it was the other way around. Clock out at 16:59 you would lose the last 14 min you worked. (Clock would set to 16:45)
Fun times
No, you should be ready to work at the start of your shift - used the loo, gotten your coffee, and logged in, ready to take your first client. Start time is start time, not get ready to start time. Conversely, the last five minutes of your day are for closing out your programs. Welcome to standard operating procedure. Pulling into the parking lot and/or walking into the building isn't part of your job; it's part of your commute.
But you should be at your station and ready to work when your shift begins. Not coming in, setting stuff down, getting your drink, opeining your computer. I bet you at quitting time you’re out the door right on time, so that means you’ve closed your computer, gather your things while you should still be working And yes I was a business owner, however , I follow this practice when I worked for other people
You're explaining it wrong. We want you here 10 minutes before so you can get yourself sorted out... grab a coffee, go to the restroom, hang up your jacket, and clock in at 10 when your shift begins. If you arrive at 10 and take care of all that, you will be late because you can not clock in before you do that.
Sure... And if I don't grab a coffee or hang up my jacket do I still have to come in 10min early?
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The answer is yes.
We're not ON a fucking team! This is a job! If it WAS a team we would have traded management for a case of softballs, months ago..