I’m pretty sure her insurance would cover it and she might also be eligible for worker’s compensation, unless the participants signed a waiver excluding WC. I’m not an insurance expert or a Human Resources expert.
Insurance might but not worker’s comp. They are not making it a work activity. If it were, she would be paid because slavery is illegal everywhere. My job does activities like this and they do things like paying a half day with the expectation you will stay 6hrs or something like that but they do not stop you from leaving early.
My friend was a volunteer youth leader at her church. She seriously injured her ankle during the summer picnic. She needed multiple pins and several surgeries over the course of 12 months. The church’s insurance refused the claim because she was a volunteer and it happened at a city park. The head pastor told his agent that they had been a good client for more than a decade with no claims. Not only that, but many, many of the congregants had policies with them since he had recommended their company. He promised this agent that EVERY SINGLE PERSON would cancel their policy if the insurance did not cover her injury in full! So of course they saw the light and changed their decision.
"It's voluntary" but "we put you down and were counting on you." Pick one. It's either voluntary, in which case you don't get to volunteer me; or it's mandatory, in which case I get paid and you are free to count on me. Can't be both.
I love when people sign me up for volunteer work events without my knowledge. When I do not show up I look em dead in the eye and say “no I was there, in spirit and if you can’t appreciate that you are not believing hard enough”.
Why would I volunteer to spend time with people for free that I only tolerate at work because I'm being paid to? Make that barely tolerate in a lot of instances.
I actually like my coworkers and I’ll stop by for 5 minutes to say hello if I’m in the neighborhood. But no fucking way will I show up to events like “company kickball tournaments” unless there’s money in it. I mean I don’t even participate in work events when I’m there unless it’s mandatory.
My boss once said, "It's a bonding exercise" I told him, "I can barely tolerate these people when I'm being paid for it, and you want me to hang out with them voluntarily? You know, if I'm not at work, I can say exactly how I feel, and you can't do anything to me, right?" I was never asked to go to a bonding exercise again.
As I got older I didn’t want to attend outside events from work. I would see these people 40+ hours a week. Once my boss asked me why I wasn’t going to the annual holiday party which was taking place in Boston. I said I am not driving an hour away in the middle of winter at night by myself to see people I see everyday. Have a nice time.
I love everyone bashes Veronica who started saying 'Have fun'., and tried to leave it a t that. Which wasn't enough for her co-worker who kept pushing her. She was signed up for a VOLUNTARY event without her permission, yet somehow Veronica is at fault for being rude. Please. Co-workers at not your friends. They are your co-workers. You are not required to spend your days off with them.
This is why my department plans out-door activities DURING THE WORK WEEK!! We just had an outing last month where the whole department had a catered picnic at the park and played kickball and other games before heading home for the afternoon. We'll be taking a few hours off to go to Mini-Golf in the early fall. If it's Teambuilding, it's done on team time!
YES! Seriously, if you do it during time I have already agreed to give you, and pay me what you have agreed to pay me(i.e. not blow up my budget), I am 100% down to do a little team building thing here and there. Team building is an investment, which should not be paid for by the employees.
I hate when companies try to do this. We are not a family or friends. We are coworkers! I work and then go home to my family and friends that I love. Thanks!
These events need to be held during the day during work hours. Or the event needs to be like Medieval Times or something like that - which the company pays for. Thennnnn, I will show up. Otherwise, I got better things to do.
My last company used to have The Company Picnic on a weekend somewhere (public park, etc.), and I was repeatedly asked year after year why I never went to one. I just said I had "commitments" and couldn't. I was never "in yo' face" about it, but I did make it clear that weekends were sketchy for me and that it's unlikely I could make it, not when I had weekend chores and stuff to do. Even offered that if I could get a free day off during the week to catch-up, I'd be happy to attend, but no one took me up on it.
Our company picnic was always during a work day and it was mandatory unless you had already had the day off before they announced what day the picnic was. (After the picnic was announced you were not allowed to take the day off.)
I'm convinced Veronica is Gen X. Because I am, and I also WORK FOR MONEY and otherwise don't GAF; they're not family, not friends, and only team while I'm on the clock.
"It's 'voluntary', yet you put me down for it without even asking me? No. If I wanted to be voluntold for crap, I'd join the military and at least get paid for doing it. You wouldn't even do that much for us."
Don't forget that your company is family, that's why when you die your desk is cleared on the same day and they hire a new employee. And like I tell everyone, show me one headstone that reads "I shoulda done more overtime"
Same. Any work related events, meals, team bonding, it's a polite no thank you from me. They put my name down for the last one despite me saying no thanks and I did not show. So I then get the 'your so anti work, anti social' comments.
I worked for a company that put on a company weekend Camp Out and Pick Nick. They didn't frown on you if you didn't come. I went the only year I worked there. They let every one off early Thursday. You could roll up and set up camp at a reserved rented out campground by the river in the mountains. They put on two large bbq events over the weekend and made breakfast on Saturday. They gave you a paid day off on Friday just so you could make it out. They went the extra mile if they asked you out on the weekend..
We had a softball game and all the free beer and food. Between front office and production. Everyone showed up and had a great time. Just a show of appreciation from the owners and workers together.
@@russellstewart5414 Curious.... would most have preferred a paid day off? Or free beer and dogs. Our employer allows weird dress up, taco Tuesday monthly (tacos in and made by the dietary folks....not delivered so just any regular day basically), opportunities to hoola hoop and run an obstacle course in water in the parking lot...so many have to park down the block that day). Being mandated to pulling as many as 20 hours, if someone is out, is common. Being called in on one's weekend off is way too common. Screw tacos and free soda poured from 2L bottles, strange outfits, and hoola hooping for 30 minutes. They need to be getting travelers to be available for filling the holes that could swallow a ship. Of course, it's an area people don't naturally desire to come to, especially in winter (The Upper peninsula of Michigan), so they need to up that financial offering. Of course, they COULD try paying better than I was paid FIVE years ago at Mo small town facility. $16 for CNAs and $35 for top end RN, BSN positions....but THAT would eat into the $$$ for the managing board and medical director (almost never even enters the building.) I'm management and think it's atrocious how these upper management people and the union are in bed together to keep profits high and costs low to benefit about 6-9 people, and make work a miserable experience for 200 others. Five days of paid vacation a year.... that you can't even take ONE of for the first full year, and $1000/month insurance to add ONE child and not able to add a spouse is ridiculous. It's like this all over....the unions now mandate what federal law forbids employers to require. The union requires it, so the employer doesn't have to. Since you aren't employed by the union (even though one MUST be union to work there... except management), they get away with it. It's one of FOUR decent sized employers in the county that pays an adult wage.... along with a mill, the hospital, and the schools. Pizza, beer, dogs, hoola hoops, and weird dress up days seem pretty pitiful as incentives for hard work.... except the beer, it sounds like Spirit Week in highschool. I don't recall being as abused in highschool as employees are these days. That's for kids.... adults might prefer days off, shorter days occasionally, higher pay, MUCH better/cheaper insurance, and other things that actually improve their lives. I'm not actually angry at you.... just wondering if your fellow employees would prefer MY suggestions for employee appreciation over free dogs and beer at a game on their regular day off.
It's Veronica. But somehow she can't keep people from stealing her work. She's making these TH-cam videos because really you don't expect her to work for anyone, do you?
I have a group of people I work with and a group of people I associate with. They are not the same group, although there is occasionally some rare overlap.
I have the same feeling about "away days" or team building weekends or any sort of company mandated out of work activities.. I don't need to like you to work with you, I am not part of your damn team, I do not have any interest in building relationships outside of the ones I choose to build myself! I do good work and you pay me to do it, that is it, that is all, period!
Same here. I always tweak my work week so by half way through the 'away day', they're paying me double time. Edit. In my company the events always happen on a Thursday just before Christmas. One of my colleagues had used his extra leave to book off every pre Christmas Thursday back to November.
@@KristenRowenPliske i know my niece is in ft worth n i used to live in dallas n it does get hot af. hell rn im in se tn n its near that recently. for my bday my daughter was goin to take me to the aquarium n we both said nawww cause we didnt want to wait for the bus
This "volunteer activity" needs a "volunteer overtime pay rate" and a "danger rate with insurance" since it exceeds the required work hours in a dangerous hot conditions.
I'm not paid enough to put up with my co-workers outside of work, most of the time I don't think I'm paid enough to put up with them during work, but sadly me and my animals need to eat, so I bitch but do it.
Veronica lives in Florida! So do I and she is absolutely right about the weather. Real Floridians huddle in the air-conditioning from May to November. Did her company just relocate from New York City?
Oh c'mon - here in Florida, the heat index is only about 100 to 115 degrees in the Summer. ... Yeah - forget the kickball game! (And hope that the company has a plan to treat heat exhaustion and heat stroke.)
I just love how Veronica stand up for herself her voice very VERY assure of herself. In the first place some bosses don't even ask or check if they want to participate. That's chocking and inconsiderate and rude assuming that employers want to attend to those events. It's very intimidating when some bosses,supervisors or whatever they call are passive aggressive. This are good videos to teach people to be affirmative, and speak out. THANKS FOR PUTTING THEM ON TH-cam 👍🙏
If it is voluntary what makes you think it is okay to sign me up without asking my permission. And then pressure me to show up like I will be judged on my work abilities based on attendance at an unpaid, non work related, outside hours, non mandatory event? Sounds like something a state regulatory board might be interested in.
I was always totally clear with my boss wherever I worked that I would not be participating in the "enforced happiness". And that included the stupid annual Christmas Party.
I was a manager for 30 years. I HATED these company “social events”. However, since I was a manager, I always had to “volunteer” to go. Nothing personal, but I associate with y’all because I need a job and salary. Outside works hours, FOAD!
100% me. We aren't friends. I only hangout with y'all because I need money to live. Otherwise I wouldn't even acknowledge most of my co-workers existence.
@@sedition4267 , I live in Indiana, and the humidity is as bad as it is in Florida, and to me the weather in Summertime feels 149.000 degrees Fahrenheit, so I don't know if it's because of my Autism or what, but I hate the humidity as much as Veronica does.
The owner of my company like to show off what he has by having picnics at his estate. While paying us less than living wages. He wonders why no one shows up
It's awesome to stand up for your family time. I don't even know how many things that I missed when my child was growing up because I had to be at work and there was No flexibility for working Mothers.
I absolutely loathed the after-hours 'team building' nonsense. The only thing you have in common with most of your co-workers is work, so that's what you end up talking about. That is not a break.
I never went to after work things. I worked for Lush. Great company but the staff in my shop were a clique and I have always been the guy who didn't fit in. Autism. When the Christmas party was scheduled they just expected me to go. I did not. The first 2 Christmases I told them "I was going to, but something came up". By the 3rd or 4th Christmas, my narcissistic boss (nice most of the time, until she needed someone to lash out at) came to me one day in December... "I'll only ask you this once: are you coming to the Christmas party this year?" "no" ...and never a follow up question as to why. The reason is that they're not really my friends, I don't feel wanted, I feel like they tolerate me at work, and I'm not gonna give them the chance to tell me what they really think of me once they have had enough alcohol in their systems. I sat home alone instead because I'd rather do that than have to deal with pretending to belong.
It reminds me of one office job I had many years ago. One of the managers was angry at me for politely refusing to go for a weekend integration (I had only just started). He tried to sway me with argument that he already had paid for all the stuff, that he had all the invoices, blah, blah... I remember saying "yes" after some time, just to say "no" (via sms) a day or two before the trip, and do not regret it for many reasons, including health issues at that time of my life.
The company I work for are having a day out where staff get the day off to attend a venue and eat, drink and be merry. If you don't want to go (or can't go for other reasons) then they expect us to work, I'm no lawyer but I feel this is a big problem as paying for people to party and expecting others to work sounds flaky to say the least (this is UK by the way).
Cultural differences. Now retired - worked all my life in the UK in a wide variety of roles - none of this computes to my long work experiences. Thank God!
I imagine the x-mas party was "mandatory" because they don't want good catering to go to waste... :D If the company is going "to pay the bill" enjoy it :) Load up at the buffet! :D "You said all you can eat...>> right?
@@phangirl90 , they also don't buy special pizzas with peoples different preferences for example I hate mushrooms, onions, pepperoni, and sausage on pizzas, yet major businesses always puts those toppings on pizzas.
Exactly! I need a job, not a place to stay! Those activities are great for people who have a void in their lives. Cool! I have my own life, thank you very much!
I used to work with a team of people who only ever used to get together in the office for meetings. Once a quarter I just used to say I was going out to dinner and a drink. No pressure to come, I just liked an excuse to go out without my wife. The only thing that ruined it was our manager started to turn up, brought his wife once which seemed to open it up to other wives. Then two people decided they would organise a couple of 'events' which split the group up and people started to complain about the few of us who were out for just dinner and a drink. People started moaning about it so I started going out on my own which is what is was all about in the first place. I don't want to be organised by me or anyone else when I'm out for dinner and a drink. Like your work, wish this kind of training had been around when I went from woodworking to IT.
I was on my company's softball team back in the day. Fully voluntary, in fact I wanted to play to show off how far I can hit the ball. Nobody is fking with the home run champ back in the office. They've seen what you can do with a bat. On a related note, I survived two rounds of layoffs before I eventually quit.
My job had a picnic event for employees on a Sunday. I was like yeah im mot going. I work on Saturdays and my only me time day is a Sunday. I reguse to drive across yhe city for a picnic with folk that dont care about me and dont hear me when i am stressed and burnt out. My assistant manager was like just come for 45mins... I said No ans didnt go. Like im not kissing any arse or licking any boots. GoodT bye. 😊
As a Floridian I approve of the I don’t go outside message. During summer you go outside to the beach, water park, and or spring. No lakes have brain eating amoebas 🦠!
Speaking only for myself, I don’t mind the occasional company event. But I also do like my “me” time. I agree with Veronica, weekends are for family, the dog, mainly for me.
Aside from how ridiculous the requests are to do out of work activities, the comment about Florida, a hundred and fortynine thousand degrees just made me giggle because, yes, it's insanely hot. On the darker side, my son in law's sister died of heat stroke in the parking lot of her work place, during her lunch break, during a heat wave in Kansas City a few years ago. Word of warning: if it feels too hot, GTFO! You cannot know how much heat you can handle until you reach the point where you just can't handle it!
I swear these Veronica shorts are snapshots of the company I work at. Answer your phone/texts 24/7, check company email TWICE daily on your days off, added work with no additional compensation because they don't want to hire replacements, etc. Unreal, I wonder is she works at the same place I do!
Mood. I actually like going to the occasional after work activity. Mostly because my job rents out some bomb food trucks 9 times outta 10. And the prizes they do for competitions is typically cash, gift card, highly sought after tickets or just an extra PTO day. (...I would still 100% just prefer more bonuses though 😂)
In this era with families were people share custody it is a really bad idea to think you can “volunteer” (aka force) so one to work in a day off. No one is going to mess up and possibly loose a kid to play kickball with the boss for free!
And if Veronica was to get hurt during this "work event" she probable wouldn't be covered by her work's insurance.
I’m pretty sure her insurance would cover it and she might also be eligible for worker’s compensation, unless the participants signed a waiver excluding WC. I’m not an insurance expert or a Human Resources expert.
Insurance might but not worker’s comp. They are not making it a work activity. If it were, she would be paid because slavery is illegal everywhere.
My job does activities like this and they do things like paying a half day with the expectation you will stay 6hrs or something like that but they do not stop you from leaving early.
My friend was a volunteer youth leader at her church. She seriously injured her ankle during the summer picnic. She needed multiple pins and several surgeries over the course of 12 months. The church’s insurance refused the claim because she was a volunteer and it happened at a city park. The head pastor told his agent that they had been a good client for more than a decade with no claims. Not only that, but many, many of the congregants had policies with them since he had recommended their company. He promised this agent that EVERY SINGLE PERSON would cancel their policy if the insurance did not cover her injury in full! So of course they saw the light and changed their decision.
"It's voluntary" but "we put you down and were counting on you."
Pick one. It's either voluntary, in which case you don't get to volunteer me; or it's mandatory, in which case I get paid and you are free to count on me. Can't be both.
I love when people sign me up for volunteer work events without my knowledge. When I do not show up I look em dead in the eye and say “no I was there, in spirit and if you can’t appreciate that you are not believing hard enough”.
😂.
😂
Why would I volunteer to spend time with people for free that I only tolerate at work because I'm being paid to? Make that barely tolerate in a lot of instances.
I actually like my coworkers and I’ll stop by for 5 minutes to say hello if I’m in the neighborhood. But no fucking way will I show up to events like “company kickball tournaments” unless there’s money in it.
I mean I don’t even participate in work events when I’m there unless it’s mandatory.
You're right Veronica
well, she seems nice
My boss once said, "It's a bonding exercise" I told him, "I can barely tolerate these people when I'm being paid for it, and you want me to hang out with them voluntarily? You know, if I'm not at work, I can say exactly how I feel, and you can't do anything to me, right?" I was never asked to go to a bonding exercise again.
As I got older I didn’t want to attend outside events from work. I would see these people 40+ hours a week. Once my boss asked me why I wasn’t going to the annual holiday party which was taking place in Boston. I said I am not driving an hour away in the middle of winter at night by myself to see people I see everyday. Have a nice time.
"149,000° outside". Yep, she lives in the South.😂😂
That's an accurate estimate of the temp on any given day in the summer 😊
Veronica: [has a life outside of work]
Management: [takes that personally]
Veronica got mad boundary skills.
149,000 degrees!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
That's the line that killed me xD
I needed Veronica when i was in the military. Maybe she could have helped out at Mandatory Family Days when most of us were single.
You get tons of Veronicas as you pirate, so you should've been a pirate on the seas.
it’s a hundred and forty nine thousand degrees outside😂
I love everyone bashes Veronica who started saying 'Have fun'., and tried to leave it a t that. Which wasn't enough for her co-worker who kept pushing her. She was signed up for a VOLUNTARY event without her permission, yet somehow Veronica is at fault for being rude. Please. Co-workers at not your friends. They are your co-workers. You are not required to spend your days off with them.
I NEVER went to any After Hour Activities. Told the Bosses, I was like a Hooker, if they wanted me to Play, they gotta pay.
She has a definite point about being outside in the Summer in Florida. That's a definite nope.
"Oh no, it's just like a voluntary thing!"
"Well I didn't volunteer. Have fun."
This is why my department plans out-door activities DURING THE WORK WEEK!! We just had an outing last month where the whole department had a catered picnic at the park and played kickball and other games before heading home for the afternoon. We'll be taking a few hours off to go to Mini-Golf in the early fall. If it's Teambuilding, it's done on team time!
So you are paid? If so that is awesome.
YES!
Seriously, if you do it during time I have already agreed to give you, and pay me what you have agreed to pay me(i.e. not blow up my budget), I am 100% down to do a little team building thing here and there.
Team building is an investment, which should not be paid for by the employees.
I hate when companies try to do this. We are not a family or friends. We are coworkers! I work and then go home to my family and friends that I love. Thanks!
And don’t put me down for any mandatory potlucks, either.
Omg yessssss!
These events need to be held during the day during work hours. Or the event needs to be like Medieval Times or something like that - which the company pays for. Thennnnn, I will show up. Otherwise, I got better things to do.
My last company used to have The Company Picnic on a weekend somewhere (public park, etc.), and I was repeatedly asked year after year why I never went to one. I just said I had "commitments" and couldn't. I was never "in yo' face" about it, but I did make it clear that weekends were sketchy for me and that it's unlikely I could make it, not when I had weekend chores and stuff to do. Even offered that if I could get a free day off during the week to catch-up, I'd be happy to attend, but no one took me up on it.
Our company picnic was always during a work day and it was mandatory unless you had already had the day off before they announced what day the picnic was. (After the picnic was announced you were not allowed to take the day off.)
Don:t have to do anything "off the clock". A job shouldn't permeate your entire being.
149,000°!😂😂😂😂
I'm convinced Veronica is Gen X. Because I am, and I also WORK FOR MONEY and otherwise don't GAF; they're not family, not friends, and only team while I'm on the clock.
"It's 'voluntary', yet you put me down for it without even asking me? No. If I wanted to be voluntold for crap, I'd join the military and at least get paid for doing it. You wouldn't even do that much for us."
I don't tell them I'm not coming, I just don't show up.
Don't forget that your company is family, that's why when you die your desk is cleared on the same day and they hire a new employee. And like I tell everyone, show me one headstone that reads "I shoulda done more overtime"
In the military, we used to call this sort of thing "mandatory fun time".
Volun-told 😅
The military owns you. Your employer does not.
149,000 degrees!!!! Haha ha aha haha.....
Same.
Any work related events, meals, team bonding, it's a polite no thank you from me.
They put my name down for the last one despite me saying no thanks and I did not show.
So I then get the 'your so anti work, anti social' comments.
I live in Florida, I don't do outside activities, it is 149,000 degrees out there. Lololol!
Hundred and forty thousand degrees outside.😂😂😂
I worked for a company that put on a company weekend Camp Out and Pick Nick. They didn't frown on you if you didn't come. I went the only year I worked there. They let every one off early Thursday. You could roll up and set up camp at a reserved rented out campground by the river in the mountains. They put on two large bbq events over the weekend and made breakfast on Saturday. They gave you a paid day off on Friday just so you could make it out. They went the extra mile if they asked you out on the weekend..
Make it DODGEBALL.... and MAYBE I'll be there (gen X). 😂
😂
We had a softball game and all the free beer and food. Between front office and production. Everyone showed up and had a great time. Just a show of appreciation from the owners and workers together.
@@russellstewart5414 Curious.... would most have preferred a paid day off? Or free beer and dogs. Our employer allows weird dress up, taco Tuesday monthly (tacos in and made by the dietary folks....not delivered so just any regular day basically), opportunities to hoola hoop and run an obstacle course in water in the parking lot...so many have to park down the block that day).
Being mandated to pulling as many as 20 hours, if someone is out, is common. Being called in on one's weekend off is way too common. Screw tacos and free soda poured from 2L bottles, strange outfits, and hoola hooping for 30 minutes. They need to be getting travelers to be available for filling the holes that could swallow a ship. Of course, it's an area people don't naturally desire to come to, especially in winter (The Upper peninsula of Michigan), so they need to up that financial offering. Of course, they COULD try paying better than I was paid FIVE years ago at Mo small town facility. $16 for CNAs and $35 for top end RN, BSN positions....but THAT would eat into the $$$ for the managing board and medical director (almost never even enters the building.)
I'm management and think it's atrocious how these upper management people and the union are in bed together to keep profits high and costs low to benefit about 6-9 people, and make work a miserable experience for 200 others. Five days of paid vacation a year.... that you can't even take ONE of for the first full year, and $1000/month insurance to add ONE child and not able to add a spouse is ridiculous. It's like this all over....the unions now mandate what federal law forbids employers to require. The union requires it, so the employer doesn't have to. Since you aren't employed by the union (even though one MUST be union to work there... except management), they get away with it. It's one of FOUR decent sized employers in the county that pays an adult wage.... along with a mill, the hospital, and the schools.
Pizza, beer, dogs, hoola hoops, and weird dress up days seem pretty pitiful as incentives for hard work.... except the beer, it sounds like Spirit Week in highschool. I don't recall being as abused in highschool as employees are these days. That's for kids.... adults might prefer days off, shorter days occasionally, higher pay, MUCH better/cheaper insurance, and other things that actually improve their lives. I'm not actually angry at you.... just wondering if your fellow employees would prefer MY suggestions for employee appreciation over free dogs and beer at a game on their regular day off.
"If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball."
@@carlfromtheoc1788 "If you can dodge a car, you can dodge a ball." (RIP Patches O'Houlahan). 😏
Love these. Trying to find the original creator because there are so many spin-off/duplicate channels of Veronica.
It's Veronica. But somehow she can't keep people from stealing her work. She's making these TH-cam videos because really you don't expect her to work for anyone, do you?
I totally agree and that’s why I never click on their page.
@@janepolewchak731 the channel name is veronica?
Channel name is Customer service academy
@@powerup9035 sweet. thank you!
I don’t like most of my coworkers and don’t know the rest of them! I don’t want to see them outside of work
I have a group of people I work with and a group of people I associate with.
They are not the same group, although there is occasionally some rare overlap.
I have the same feeling about "away days" or team building weekends or any sort of company mandated out of work activities.. I don't need to like you to work with you, I am not part of your damn team, I do not have any interest in building relationships outside of the ones I choose to build myself! I do good work and you pay me to do it, that is it, that is all, period!
Same here. I always tweak my work week so by half way through the 'away day', they're paying me double time.
Edit. In my company the events always happen on a Thursday just before Christmas.
One of my colleagues had used his extra leave to book off every pre Christmas Thursday back to November.
😂 149,000 degrees 😂
149000 degrees🤣🤣🤣
I live in south Texas. she’s not too far off. Lol
@@KristenRowenPliske i know my niece is in ft worth n i used to live in dallas n it does get hot af. hell rn im in se tn n its near that recently. for my bday my daughter was goin to take me to the aquarium n we both said nawww cause we didnt want to wait for the bus
This "volunteer activity" needs a "volunteer overtime pay rate" and a "danger rate with insurance" since it exceeds the required work hours in a dangerous hot conditions.
I'm not paid enough to put up with my co-workers outside of work, most of the time I don't think I'm paid enough to put up with them during work, but sadly me and my animals need to eat, so I bitch but do it.
I had a boss that said I refused to get to know my co workers because I didn't have a favorite co worker and didn't go to the annual company mixer.
You’re at work. There are no obligations to “know” or “hang out” with coworkers.
The audacity of your boss
149,000 degrees outside...
Right on!
149,000° outside 😂 hilarious
If it does not involve sitting down and having alcoholic beverages, ain’t nobody going to that!
Veronica needs to just start her own business.
Sadly it takes a lot of money to do that
My manager tried to write me up for not attending a company picnic. That was on the weekend
And don't put me down for birthday gift or other collections for co-workers!
Bday gifts, wedding showers, weddings, baby showers, retirements...it was endless
Veronica lives in Florida! So do I and she is absolutely right about the weather. Real Floridians huddle in the air-conditioning from May to November. Did her company just relocate from New York City?
Oh c'mon - here in Florida, the heat index is only about 100 to 115 degrees in the Summer.
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Yeah - forget the kickball game! (And hope that the company has a plan to treat heat exhaustion and heat stroke.)
I just love how
Veronica stand up for herself her voice very VERY assure of herself. In the first place some bosses don't even ask or check if they want to participate. That's chocking and inconsiderate and rude assuming that employers want to attend to those events. It's very intimidating when some bosses,supervisors or whatever they call are passive aggressive. This are good videos to teach people to be affirmative, and speak out. THANKS FOR PUTTING THEM ON TH-cam 👍🙏
In Florida, can confirm.
If it is voluntary what makes you think it is okay to sign me up without asking my permission. And then pressure me to show up like I will be judged on my work abilities based on attendance at an unpaid, non work related, outside hours, non mandatory event? Sounds like something a state regulatory board might be interested in.
I was always totally clear with my boss wherever I worked that I would not be participating in the "enforced happiness".
And that included the stupid annual Christmas Party.
I was a manager for 30 years. I HATED these company “social events”. However, since I was a manager, I always had to “volunteer” to go. Nothing personal, but I associate with y’all because I need a job and salary. Outside works hours, FOAD!
100% me. We aren't friends. I only hangout with y'all because I need money to live. Otherwise I wouldn't even acknowledge most of my co-workers existence.
149,000 degrees 🤣🤣🤣
Complete falsehood.
It can't be more than 140,000 degrees out there.
@@sedition4267 , I live in Indiana, and the humidity is as bad as it is in Florida, and to me the weather in Summertime feels 149.000 degrees Fahrenheit, so I don't know if it's because of my Autism or what, but I hate the humidity as much as Veronica does.
149,000 degrees outside.
🤣🤣 ikr. I'm not gonna die to play kickball with you guys....😂
It’s “voluntary” but they signed you up 🚩🚩
AMEN SISTER! TO MUCH TIME AT WORK ALREADY. DEFINITELY NOT ENOUGH PAY !
The owner of my company like to show off what he has by having picnics at his estate. While paying us less than living wages. He wonders why no one shows up
Poor Veronica. Shit that her Coworkers made unfair assumptions of her time.
It's awesome to stand up for your family time. I don't even know how many things that I missed when my child was growing up because I had to be at work and there was No flexibility for working Mothers.
If you want me to show up on my day off, you better have cash in your hand when i arrive. Time and a half AT THE LEAST!
Saturday? No way, no how. I would be more polite, but I would not be playing kickball in the heat with coworkers I see too much already.
If they want to close the office and have a paid kickball game, I'm down for that. But Saturday, on my time, no, not doing that.
What if it is a Saturday paid overtime day?
@@Squre If they want to pay me extra to play sportsball, sure!
I absolutely loathed the after-hours 'team building' nonsense. The only thing you have in common with most of your co-workers is work, so that's what you end up talking about. That is not a break.
Same im in Florida and it is 149000 degrees outside lol. Love me some veronica
I never went to after work things. I worked for Lush. Great company but the staff in my shop were a clique and I have always been the guy who didn't fit in. Autism.
When the Christmas party was scheduled they just expected me to go. I did not.
The first 2 Christmases I told them "I was going to, but something came up".
By the 3rd or 4th Christmas, my narcissistic boss (nice most of the time, until she needed someone to lash out at) came to me one day in December...
"I'll only ask you this once: are you coming to the Christmas party this year?"
"no"
...and never a follow up question as to why.
The reason is that they're not really my friends, I don't feel wanted, I feel like they tolerate me at work, and I'm not gonna give them the chance to tell me what they really think of me once they have had enough alcohol in their systems.
I sat home alone instead because I'd rather do that than have to deal with pretending to belong.
What we call 'compulsory fun'.
"So, you rostered me for a work activity... that's supposedly voluntary... without pay... and without my knowlege or consent?"
It reminds me of one office job I had many years ago. One of the managers was angry at me for politely refusing to go for a weekend integration (I had only just started). He tried to sway me with argument that he already had paid for all the stuff, that he had all the invoices, blah, blah... I remember saying "yes" after some time, just to say "no" (via sms) a day or two before the trip, and do not regret it for many reasons, including health issues at that time of my life.
The company I work for are having a day out where staff get the day off to attend a venue and eat, drink and be merry. If you don't want to go (or can't go for other reasons) then they expect us to work, I'm no lawyer but I feel this is a big problem as paying for people to party and expecting others to work sounds flaky to say the least (this is UK by the way).
I always get asked if im going to company events, and my answer is always the same...i dont even like you people
Cultural differences. Now retired - worked all my life in the UK in a wide variety of roles - none of this computes to my long work experiences. Thank God!
Same here in OZ
Right? My former company used to have a 'mandatory' Xmas party. I never went despite the owners' overt disapproval.
If you were muslim or hindi they wouldn't ask.
I imagine the x-mas party was "mandatory" because they don't want good catering to go to waste... :D
If the company is going "to pay the bill" enjoy it :)
Load up at the buffet! :D
"You said all you can eat...>> right?
If I had acted like you, I would have never been given the sales territory when my boss died.
If the company is otherwise treating me well, I would go to something like that. I've never worked anywhere that had a mandatory party or pot luck.
The sports team at work would be something I avoid.
I always hated these stupid things. All rah, rah, team no raises, no benefits but rah rah!
Rah rah, but you get a free pizza party though.
Me: No thanks. I want the raises and the benefits. I’ve got pizza at home.
@@phangirl90 , they also don't buy special pizzas with peoples different preferences for example I hate mushrooms, onions, pepperoni, and sausage on pizzas, yet major businesses always puts those toppings on pizzas.
Exactly! I need a job, not a place to stay! Those activities are great for people who have a void in their lives. Cool! I have my own life, thank you very much!
I used to work with a team of people who only ever used to get together in the office for meetings. Once a quarter I just used to say I was going out to dinner and a drink. No pressure to come, I just liked an excuse to go out without my wife. The only thing that ruined it was our manager started to turn up, brought his wife once which seemed to open it up to other wives. Then two people decided they would organise a couple of 'events' which split the group up and people started to complain about the few of us who were out for just dinner and a drink.
People started moaning about it so I started going out on my own which is what is was all about in the first place. I don't want to be organised by me or anyone else when I'm out for dinner and a drink.
Like your work, wish this kind of training had been around when I went from woodworking to IT.
I was on my company's softball team back in the day. Fully voluntary, in fact I wanted to play to show off how far I can hit the ball. Nobody is fking with the home run champ back in the office. They've seen what you can do with a bat. On a related note, I survived two rounds of layoffs before I eventually quit.
It definitely can help your career if you wanna be doing the activities. :) I'm glad you were able to stay as long as you wanted.
My job had a picnic event for employees on a Sunday. I was like yeah im mot going. I work on Saturdays and my only me time day is a Sunday. I reguse to drive across yhe city for a picnic with folk that dont care about me and dont hear me when i am stressed and burnt out.
My assistant manager was like just come for 45mins... I said No ans didnt go. Like im not kissing any arse or licking any boots. GoodT bye. 😊
As a Floridian I approve of the I don’t go outside message. During summer you go outside to the beach, water park, and or spring.
No lakes have brain eating amoebas 🦠!
149...Thousand degrees🔥🥵
#AccurateAF
It's Fahrenheit, so it's not that bad.
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Dont sign me up for shit if you never asked me
Don't even ask me because the answer is always NO. Therefore, never sign me up for anything that I did not say yes to.
Not to mention the melanoma.
149,000° oitside!!! 😂😂😂 this is so true
Speaking only for myself, I don’t mind the occasional company event. But I also do like my “me” time. I agree with Veronica, weekends are for family, the dog, mainly for me.
As a manager I knew voluntary meant mandatory! I felt like screaming I loathe you people, I spend 45 hours a week with y’all because I HAVE TO!
100% I did this at Caesars when I worked there and they tried to guilt me. Nope nope nope.
Aside from how ridiculous the requests are to do out of work activities, the comment about Florida, a hundred and fortynine thousand degrees just made me giggle because, yes, it's insanely hot.
On the darker side, my son in law's sister died of heat stroke in the parking lot of her work place, during her lunch break, during a heat wave in Kansas City a few years ago. Word of warning: if it feels too hot, GTFO! You cannot know how much heat you can handle until you reach the point where you just can't handle it!
I swear these Veronica shorts are snapshots of the company I work at. Answer your phone/texts 24/7, check company email TWICE daily on your days off, added work with no additional compensation because they don't want to hire replacements, etc. Unreal, I wonder is she works at the same place I do!
Will the company pay for your medical expenses if you got injured whilst doing it 🤔. I doubt it
Agree with Veronica, I don't do outside in Florida.
#1 NEVER SHARE stuff about your self #2 you can see if boss is not to be trusted ALLWAS RECORD
...cannot believe how awesome this is - almost wish I wasn't retired, would love to feed this wisdom to old colleagues! ❤✊
Mandatory fun? Hell, I'm not even a big fan of voluntary fun.......
Mood. I actually like going to the occasional after work activity. Mostly because my job rents out some bomb food trucks 9 times outta 10.
And the prizes they do for competitions is typically cash, gift card, highly sought after tickets or just an extra PTO day.
(...I would still 100% just prefer more bonuses though 😂)
I actually like my coworkers so yes, when we plan events that aren’t planned outside all day, I go. (I don’t do outside😂😂😂)
These apps are definitely listening to me 😮
In this era with families were people share custody it is a really bad idea to think you can “volunteer” (aka force) so one to work in a day off. No one is going to mess up and possibly loose a kid to play kickball with the boss for free!