I tried to reduce my oil usage and use more cleansing shampoos, honestly my hair just likes oils, I tried to do a protective style and my scalp felt terrible until I spray water on it and used an oil. I think ppl should present these things like a suggestion rather than a shame contest, you should take what you want from advice and leave the rest.
I think before anyone does this detox they need to actually read the book and follow the stylist that created it. Also if your hair is thriving don’t try someone else path. It could destroy your progress. Your hair was flourishing and this detox isn’t for everyone.
Exactly... Ppl be sleeping with their deep conditioner in, which is bad. Ppl be using to much oil on their hair which doesnt help. Your hair naturally has a waterproof protectionlayer, that allows it to dry easily and just takes in a tiny bit of water - just like our skin. Most shampoos destroy that layer which makes the hair dry and causes caucasian scalp to produce more and more and more sebum oil which makes their hair thw way it is. So if your protection layer is destroyed, your hair gets too much water wmand therefore will deffo dry out. Your hair is built with oil and water. So look specifically at your history. Every hair is different. Not just structure-wise but also PH-Level wise. The question shouldn't be: oil/no oil but what does my Hair need?! And different hair needs different things. Sending love to all the natural queens out there
@@dephomega9490 the detox is to learn to know your real hair without the artificial softness of oils. If your texture is coarse it doesn't always mean your hair is dry. The duo of Iamblackgirlcurls has an ig and TH-cam channel.
Here are a couple of tips for this challenge (if you or anyone else decides to go ahead with it) 1. Oils and butters are not inherently bad for the hair. In fact, when we look at the ingredient list of most of the hair care products we use (shampoo and conditioner), they have shea butter and all types of oils in them. The way it is processed, however, is different. The use of RAW butters and RAW oils is the area of focus. Naturals use it in excess which can prevent the hair from receiving an ample amount of water in the hair (ever notice sometimes your hair takes a while to absorb? it's because of this). 2. Using lots of water in each step is KEY. Water really is our best friend. When shampooing, make sure you're using a quality shampoo (same with conditioner). When conditioning, first apply the conditioner in your hands and emulsify before adding it to the hair and then add a bit of water (that helps to create the ultimate slip). Elongating the hair while shampooing also helps flatten the hair better for a wash and go (and prevents tangles). Now for the wash and go process, again, water is key. Make sure your hair is soaking wet with water to get as much length in your wash and go as possible. BGC does not recommend gels like Aunt Jackie's. Uncle Funky's Daughter Curly Magic is a wonderful botanical gel that holds in the moisture in the hair. if you want a gel to put on top with extra hold , Innersence beauty I create hold is a great product. Also, I noticed you used a soft bonnet dryer when drying the wash and go. That is not recommended because it compresses the hair and does not leave room for it to actually get dry while maintaining definition. Using a diffuser or a hard bonnet dryer is recommended (it holds the style in place much better) I really hope all this helps! Not using oils or butters takes some time to get used to. I've been on this journey since March and I realized that I had to be patient with my hair. I love that you were willing to try this challenge out. I wish you all the best (should you decide to continue on with it) :).
Yeah, I hate the fact that people are doing all the steps wrong and then claiming it doesn't work. That's like tweaking the heck out of a recipie and telling everyone not to make it it...even though you made something off script.
I think she was more concerned about how it felt. I have similar hair to her, and I already know what my hair is like when I don't put anything on it after a wash (due to laziness). The hair will be quite fragile, and the scalp can be itchy. For me anyway.
You're supposed to use botanical gels for this. Like camille rose curl maker, or uncle funky's curly magic, followed by a stronger hold gel that's also botanical like Innersense I create hold or kinky curly knot today. Other options: curlsmith gels.... like all of them. Jessicurl spiralicious. That's all I can think of at the moment.
@@adwoamk8918 Jennifer and black girl curls have slightly different philosophies on product. The main thing is humectants as layer one and anti humectants as layer two
You are only to use a clarifying shampoo and a water based conditioner weekly for the 30 days. Hence the "detox", then the gel to set. It has transformed my hair which is amazingly similar to yours. Doing this will eliminate the itch, increase your own sebum and give you the softness your missing. Love ya channel!!!!
I live near Phoenix and our weather is pretty much identical to yours. I knew I shouldn’t try this but I did and within about 4 hours after washing my hair it was dry and hard. I only lasted two days and I had to re-wash it and moisturize it properly (what’s proper for me). It’s been three weeks and I swear my hair is STILL mad at me. Never again. I don’t care what anyone says lol
Oil never helped me keep in moisture and never acted as a sealant for me but I kept trying because the “natural hair” community told me it was the only way to moisturize my hair. so this detox really helped me and helped people like me whose hair have never thrived from using oils.
Ever thought of trying grease. I'm going back to grease for good. Its the only thing that keeps my hair from knotting up. my hair is so much easier to detangle when I use grease. I'm 4b 4c by the way.
@@LoXena What I do is an apple cider vinegar rinse before I shampoo. When I rinse out the shampoo I sometimes do a light finger detamgle and stretch out the hair with my hands. Then I deep condition with conditioner and olive oil and that makes my hair very soft and easy to detangle. I also detangle and use a comb in my hair only when I'm rinsing out my deep conditioner under the water.
@@LoXena I don't know if that could work for you. I have 4c hair and I use the Blue Magic Indian Hemp grease to moisturize my scalp and hair. Optionally you could use shea butter on the hair alone and not scalp as it makes the hair much softer.
I did it and my wash and gos are lasting 10 days, wat shinier. They are a little harder but they are loose enough after that first banding, which I do in 10 sections.
As someone who has fine 4 type hair and dermatitis on the scalp. I had to leave the oils and butters ALONE. My scalp is so much better. I’ll put a light moisturizer every now and again. But I mostly stick to shampoo and conditioning, protein, and that’s it. My hair wasn’t used to it at first but I’m learning that less is more. My hair now responds to it. I think shampooing and conditioning more often has been a game changer since water and a clean scalp really is key. Also with fine hair, all of that oil and butter weighs it down.
I'm the same. I can't put anything on my scalp. Not sure if you are having the same problem, but my stylist told me to start using a clarifying shampoo on my scalp everytime I wash. And since then, no flakes.
I'm type 4 with long history of seborrheic dermatitis. I can use oils and butters but I never apply directly to my scalp. My SD is controlled by washing at least once weekly. I use Anita Grant products because they are "cleaner" with far fewer chemicals. For me, many of the chemicals used in common used products irritate the heck out of my scalp.
I have the feeling it's getting more & more complicated with type 4 hair care. At least twice a year something will come up and the hair community will tell you not to use something. 😎 I don't see anything wrong with using butters & oils as long as we wash our hair regularly. Buildup is what prevents low porosity hair from absorbing liquids. ❤️
I know i saw one girl who did detox and come to find out she goes 3-4 weeks with out washing so of course she has build up n may need a detox. Not judging cuz if going that long without washing works for someone thats fine but i wash my hair once a week so i dont get build up like that. I just think some natural you tubers need to be careful about making blanket statements like that. They need to be clear about who their target audience is or what problem theyre addressing. This method isnt for ppl who wash their hair regularly . N tell ppl if your hair is fine no need to try. I knew better n didnt follow the trend but there are new naturals that need more disclaimers outside of " this may not work for you" they just need a little more clarity is all.
I don’t know if it will work for me or not and I guess I’ll never know cause I love my oils and butters, my hair loves them but, I wash my hair every sat
Okay, firstly, like if you like it then do what you want. But just some points based on what was mentioned: 1. Your scalp may just be used to the oil which makes it dry. It doesn't need to feel super lubricated always but I felt like there was an adjustment period where my scalp needed to up its sebum level (or... something) after I stopped putting stuff on it. That parched feeling without oil eventually left. I still have other issues (present way before I removed raw oils) but that sorta shock response passed for me. 2. Related to (1), you're pretty used to how your hair feels lubricated so it'll feel drier without the oils and stuff. 3. My understanding is that eventually elongation will come but it's a technique thing. Same w the dense roots. There's a TH-camr (Maame cerwah I believe) who stretches her wash n gos with this method iirc. 4. Leave ins are mostly not included in this "method" because they don't contribute to the style. They can impair definition that you would achieve with just gel. I myself am pretty attached to leave in so I get it 😂. I use it mostly when I'm going for fluffier looks. I leave long comments lol. I still haven't worked out what gel I like and I'm not a huge fan of the gel cast in general so I've been doing wash and gos with mousse (they don't really last but where am I going + I wash my hair very often). I've eventually managed to get some movement with gel but my hair is short, so I don't get a lot anyway.
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I love your texture so much! Just a note: this method is supposed to be used long term so you can see a huge difference. It’s essentially “moisture training” the hair.. so the more you wash it and give it water - the more it will be moisturized. The oils give the illusion that the hair is soft but it’s really just coated.
Exactly~! Key word here is “Training”. Training your hair is a very apt description, it means you don’t see results straight away and may even feel as if you’ve regressed but you have to keep going so your hair can start adapting naturally. It took about 2-3 months to notice several changes in my 4b/4c hair: namely 1) the texture all round has become more uniform (the crown area used to be more 4b and wavy, couldn’t hold a curl whereas everywhere else was a lot tighter and coarse) now most of the sections of my hair is somewhere between the two which means I’m not having to do different things with the different parts of my hair. 2) Curls & Definition. Enough said. 3) My hair is softer~! Maybe I just never found a good leave-in conditioner that worked for me but believe me when I say I tried all the “reputable” brands out there. What I found was that I was becoming wholly dependent on these conditioners to keep my hair soft even as they were drying it out so I was having to apply them up to 5 times throughout the day to maintain that moisturised state when the protein in some of these products was the main problem. It was like an unhealthy addiction with a vicious cycle: dry hair > apply conditioner > conditioner causes dryness > apply more conditioner and so on and so forth. I would sometimes add a spritz of water just so I could rework the conditioner in without having to apply more but every time I’d go in with just my water and aloe vera mixture my hair just suddenly felt revived and quenched so I eventually started thinking, why not just stick to that as the main “product” and gradually started seeing the benefits. The main change though besides the texture and softness is the relationship between my hair and water: I’ve gone from LP to MP and that’s insane because I thought once your hair has been identified as low porosity that was it - there was no possible way that it could change, it was set in stone, like your genes. But I noticed several sections where the water would just sit on top of my hair until I worked it in are now absorbing the water a lot quicker without any push from me. I still do use oils for hot oil treatments about once a month. I’ve never been one to use grease or heavy butters as they were atrocious for someone with a predisposition to dry scalp. The water I use is 4 parts distilled water, 4 parts aloe vera (blended and strained), 1.5 part goats milk conditioner and a few drops of rosemary + vitamin e oil. & that’s enough for me.
Also massaging the sebum down the hair is important. Oils and butters are very helpful, but sometimes it seems like they are used with the thought that 4c hair doesn't have natural oils like other types and that's not true. Our sebum has to be massaged through the hair with water. Our hair can be more self sustaining than we realize.
But why doesn't anyone consider that your hair could also adapt to using oils and butters or has already adapted and is flourishing the way it is. The fact that it cries when you stop means there isnt one way to do hair 🙃
I totally thought my coarse high porosity hair wouldn’t function without oil heavy products and such but the 3 step life is so much easier and my hair behaves better once it got over the initial shock
Best detox I ever did for my hair is bentonite clay mask. My hair is unbelievably soft, clean and defined after. Then I go right back to oils and butters and it works like a charm.
There is a bit of a detox process when cutting out oils. You have to clarify for a few washes to remove all of the oil. Otherwise, you’re just removing the lubricación effects of the oil but the water still can’t get into your hair.
Water can get into your hair otherwise it wouldn't get wet, it just takes longer. Washing to the point of stripping every last drop of oil, sebum or otherwise, sounds like a bad idea.
@@loismetuge9316 ok. I have low porosity hair, too. My hair is much more hydrated after I clarify. I use a clarifying shampoo that is gentle and follow with a moisturizing shampoo to adjust the ph. My conditioner is actually able t do it’s job when I do this.
I used no oil ONCE on an accident..and to do it purposely for 30 days would be murder on my scalp..I don’t use bitters as often but I still love them so much
try it again! I used to swear by oils on my scalp, and would also experience extreme dryness if i forgot to oil after wash day. i stuck to the no oils, butters or creams and did only wash and gos and my scalp feels better than it has ever felt in the past 15 years lol
@@valerie9034 I refuse…I been using oils I. My regimen since I went natural in 2011 I’m not gonna fix what’s not broken. It works for me…me and my dry scalp need it lol
me personally i’ve heard many natural hair specialists say it’s better to not use butters or oils and just a cleansing shampoo a moisturizing shampoo and a conditioner that’s what i’ve been doing and i never have to re moisturize until wash day. and the dry and brittle way your hair feels is because there is no water in your hair. oils and butters just give the effect of making your hair soft and shiny making you think your hair is moisturized when you only get moisture from water.
I never liked oils in my hair it just made my hair more ashy lol. Life without all the butters and oils have been so liberating for me and my hair been thanking me so much.
I think this method actually depends on climate and the hardness of water in your area. If you are in humid Florida, Louisiana, or Southeastern Texas, getting enough moisture from the environment is a possible solution it makes sense. But if you live in a place with a more dry and arid climate like Nevada, New Mexico or Arizona, I'm curious as to where all this moisture is supposed to come from. For someone living in these areas, sealing with a butter oil may be the only thing they can do to ensure to make sure the moisture in their hair doesn't evaporate as quickly. Also, some places have harder water than others, and it may not be beneficial to constantly wash or wet the hair with that hard water. Unless you can install a water softening system, many are better off just washing once a week and using a refresher spray or distilled water in between to add more moisture until wash day. Lastly, I think the real problem some are having with butters and oils is sulfate-free shampoos. They are not as effective at removing heavy products like silicone or butters from the hair, and if you are consistently using a shampoo that is sulfate free, that may explain why butters are being blamed as the culprit for dryness of a lack of suppleness to the hair, instead of inadequate cleansing products. I went back to using sulfates for this very reason and haven't had any problems since then.
About hard water: there are some shampoos that help with that. One that I hear about a lot is the Malibu Undo-Goo or Goo Undo or something like that. One could also get a hard water treatment from a stylist if one who provides that service is in their area. Just options for anyone worried about hard water to consider.
There are people all over the country who follow this approach to hair care. Botanical gels with humectants help with moisture retention, but it evaporates over the course of a week or so. That’s why you do it weekly - shampoo, condition, and style. The moisture comes from shampooing and conditioning (water).
Omg! MHM was exactly what I thought of when I heard about this 3- Step method! Like, people don't need all these rules to care for hair, we just need to do what works for us lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Chile if this new trend didn't remind me of that too! And we know what happened there. But the interesting thing about any "discovery" like this...we do usually get beneficial knowledge about our hair from it. I use some techniques from "water only washing", some techniques from "max hydration", and some techniques from "oil rinsing" and "heavy oiling". On this one, I think I'm already on the wagon with fewer products (although one of my fewer includes an oil , butter, leave in conditioner in some configuration).
Not everyone has enough moisture in the air where they live for this to work. Dry air will also have the opposite effect when it comes to hhumectants. Some people bout to be real pissed when winter hits and all that moisture get pulled back into the air. Please watch a Afophe Atoyebi ( an actual follicular scientist) or the Curly Chemist on their thoughts of this no oils method before trying. Some oils are meant to Pena treat the hair some are meant to protect, some are meant to lock in moisture etc. If this method works on some peoples hair that’s great for them but you’re not actually being any healthier than the regular method of leave in and oils yada yada yada. This method was based off of one sentence of hair science and now people are just running with it without any research on their own. Which again is fine to each their own I don’t get me started on the comments of people try to tell other people how to do their natural hair and how this method is so much better 🙄.
What's crazy is that it's based on one fact... "That the scalp produces its own oil" But so does the rest of our skin. How come we still get ashy without putting lotions and oils? I'm leaving these trend for people with long enough hair to not care how much eventually snaps off after the trend passes
@@LoXena the method works better for them. They may switch up stylers /styles during the seasons but the fundamentals are the same. Not everybody likes the same routine. that's fine.
@@yvetteibrahims4487 EXACTLY! I can do this method during the summer since there is enough humidity, however come fall winter? HELL NO! Just like I can go all summer with a lotion, but I *NEED* a thick body butter for winter or I look like an ashy zombie.
This honestly worked really well for me. You could be not using enough water, that’s reaaaallly crucial to this method working. And you can use some leave ins! I don’t always use one but it’s allowed! And it’s important to use a gel with humectants in it as well. I still believe in scalp oils but only for specific conditions (like I have psoriasis and emollients are clinically proven to help soothe it). The method is a little complicated but it’s also very simple. I recommend going to Jennifer rose nyc’s TH-cam channel and watching her q and a videos! It’s also important to not conflate an oily residue to softness or health! Your hair will feel different
@@oemiller I found the best solution years ago with Jamaican Black Castor oil. No flakes, no itch, hair flourishing and moisturized. Before I used it, I thought about seeing a dermatologist. But my $8 castor oil blessed me before I went, and I'm thankful
i've had dandruff/dry (sometimes even scabby) scalp issues my entire life up until I've tried this method. My scalp looks brand new!! Not a flake in sight! I highly recommend you at least try this method for a month. also don't sleep with wet hair!
I'm assuming you mean a water-based gel like The Curl Maker by Camille Rose or that foaming coconut hibiscus mousse by Shea Moisture when you say mousse? Or ARE you talking bout a cream-based mousse that contains oils & butters akin to the coconut /hibiscus curl smoothie souffle by Shea Moosture?? *Those are just examples, but I don't necessarily mean those specific brands*
@@dominiquedevereux7205 a water based gel, the curl maker is a good example. Although I've been using a mix of both at the moment which I think my hair prefers than just the water based gel
Yeah I have to have some kind of oil in my hair... I hate that tight on the scalp feeling especially with fine hair it feels like it can just break off
You're hilarious! I gave this a go for about six weeks.Honestly I learnt a couple of things from this I learnt from it was that I don't have 4c hair and my leave in, IS MY STYLER and because my hair is healthy. I don't need to DEEP CONDITIONER every week. I don't like my hair without a leave in but I didn't need as much product as I thought. Lastly the only way I can use a gel is to layer it but I'm not a fan of too much crunch. I think I'll do a wash and go if I'm on holiday but otherwise I prefer the feel of my hair from a twist-out. At the end of the day we should all do what is best for you and your lifestyle. :D
i feel your pain i decided to do this method a year ago and my hair broke off and became hard and stiff, but as soon as put the oil and cream back in my hair went right back to normal. so i think that method only works for some not all people's hair
You’ve been using oils for years. There was literally no possible way this was going to work after a week. I’d also do a bit more research on the products to use during the detox. It’s a 30 day detox for a reason - one week is definitely not long enough.
Basically a lot of naturals don't wash their hair with a sulfate shampoo to get rid of product buildup. If you put a lot of products on your hair before washing your hair you need to wash your hair with a shampoo that will rid the scalp and hair of build up point blank period. Use your regular hair products but you just don't have to use extra products on your hair. We watch these videos with people using a bunch of products on the hair. If you know your hair you know what it needs.
Ohmygosh! I am consistently blown away by how beautiful you are, Sis! The last shot after the full week... STUNNING! Your hairstyle and length (with shrinkage) complimented you BEAUTIFULLY!
Yeah, I had to learn how to use oils and butters properly. My hair and scalp thrive with them and I have never seen anyone with extremely long hair who got there by not using oils and butters. I don’t know of an ethnic culture that does not incorporate them in their regimen either. You are very pretty and hilarious! ❤️🤗 new subbie!
Yes! This comment. Looking at everyone with hair down their back (including me) use butter and oils pretty religiously. It’s honestly not for everyone though. You have to know your hair and have good technique. Also for my very course type 4 hair, wash n goes are the devil lol
Most people from other cultures do use oils but they wash their hair right after.. Like after doing a oil rinse. Or a hot oil scalp massage, they wash their hair. But many of us with natural hair keep the oils in. even reapplying oil daily without washing it out. I think that's the difference.
I am currently on this no oils journey right now and loving it. I've eliminated steps and time from my wash day, and my hair and scalp are loving it! That being said, I think there are certain things that just suit people differently so take what you need and throw away the rest lol. Opposite to you, I started this method because oils made my scalp super itchy and my hair very brittle, and I no longer have that problem, so if oils always worked for you especially on your scalp, I would say keep that up. I also use the aunt jackies flaxseed gel, and I found it to be quite drying/ stiffening when used alone. I use kinky curly custard underneath and have found my wash n go's to be softer and more elongated as a result. Blackgirlcurls recommended using botanical gels underneath a topper gel, so you could try that next time you do a wash and go, but if botanical gels aren't your thing, definitely reinstate the leave in. I think you will definitely notice the difference in softness and movement. I think they consider leave in to be an unnecessary step because it's a "styler without hold" but if you're using just the flaxseed gel, I would say it's okay to add the leave in step back in.
Same! My hair was in horrible condition during all but this last year of my 16 year natural hair journey. I tried every oil, butter, grease, leave-in, deep conditioner, etc and each year my hair fell out or broke off more and more. By the time I turned 40 I just eventually assumed I had genetic hair loss issues as my mom and grandmother also struggled with hair loss at an older age. Oils, especially the ones with hair growth claims, always exacerbated the issue. Finally, after listening to Jennifer Rose and a few other stylists speaking the same language my hair has been THRIVING. I didn’t think the crown and nape of my hair would ever not break off. Eliminating raw oils, simply shampooing, conditioning and using one styler (usually mousse def) is all my hair needs!!!
I feel y'all not trusting the process with this one but it takes timeeee!! My first month and a half of trying this was a mess but it gets better! Having a solid cut and finding the right gel for you is important too. I've been wash and go only for 5 months now, I just did my first twist out last week and now I hate it lol. If you're open to trying it you've gotta commit to at least 30 days, and at least 5-6 washes in that time. You've also gotta get used to shrinkage and your actual natural pattern (🙃 this was the hardest part for me). Either way, this method changed my entire routine for the better! I highly recommend giving it a try.
When I started the @Iamblackgirlcurls 30 day hair detox I was using the same aunt Jackie's gel because that's what I had and it's really because that gel is mostly plastic the flaxseed is way at the bottom of the ingredients list with no hold. You gotta use a botanical gel like the uncle funky's or the curl mix flaxseed gels that have more of the actual ingredients your hair needs for this method to work. It makes a huge difference. If you want you washngo stretched just hit your roots with a concentration attachment once it's dry. After 30 days of no oil my scalp was so much better because I was removing the buildup on my scalp from using oils and butters weekly and it finally got a chance to breathe. You really have to commit to the 30 days and practice the technique with the right products to get it down. It definitely felt completely wrong the first time I did it but I feel like I've gained so much time back and better hair health because of it. If you go to iamblackgirlcurls TH-cam channel they have videos with 4C clients.
YOU & YOUR HAIR ARE SO BEAUTIFUL & THERAPEUTIC FOR ME! THANK YOU . I COULD JUST CRY SEEING THE SUCCESS OF YOU & YOUR HAIR EVEN DURING THE NO OIL ETC CHALLENGE! WOWOWOWOW YOU ARE WINNING ON SO MANY LEVELS! EVEN WHEN UR FEELING BRATTY IN THIS TEMPORARY SITUATION! LOVING YOU FOR THESE TRUTHS! WOW! THERAPEUTIC!
The no-oil, no- butter treatment for hair is actually possible. When I moved to a European country there was simply no hair oil, hair butter or any products for Black hair because at the time the population was about 97% Caucasian. I simply used to wash and condition my 4c hair every day, then comb it whilst the hair was still wet. My hair flourished and was super healthy!
@@Luvarijae Yes, it does strip the hair of oils, but do you really want an accumulation of sebum(scalp fat) on your head? Let the scalp breath! I had to shampoo my hair everyday, even in deep winter, in order to comb it when wet. I do admit that it was a hassle to wash my hair everyday! Now, I shampoo every other day and use hair oil/butter occasionally. Point is that washing everyday and not using oil,grease or butter did no visible harm to my hair.
i started this routine and there was a little transition period for a few weeks but now i love it. can't imagine ever using oil again (for the record i have 4c low porosity hair)
I personally started this method a couple weeks ago and its been going pretty well but I also have quite fine hair so heavy products never worked that well for me anyway. I will say that I personally still use a leave in because I also rarely use gel and I might be wrong but I believe that leave-ins aren't necessarily banned but rather they're considered cream stylers so it's moreso about understanding that they don't provide the moisture we might think they do and that they are just stylers like gel or mouse but without a hold. Also, I don't use leave-ins with oils or butters high up on the ingredients list. Anyway! Twas super interesting to see your reaction to this especially as someone who also has a super dry scalp (from scalp psoriasis) who actually avoids oiling their scalp bc I already have to wash it at least once a week lol
This method saved my hair. And if carefully studied it makes sense. Our hair doesn't need to be a battle, it can be a step in a day. I've even got my wash day down to 25 mins... it used to take 4-5 hours, sometimes a day. And my wash and go's actually last till next wash day. Hair soft every day. No dry, flaky scalp. Shampoo, conditioner, botanical gel. Dassit! Nuffin else! No pre poo, no finger detangling before mechanical detangling, no deep conditioning for ages, no expensive leave ins, no oils, no creams, no custards, no dodgy gels, no soufflés, no butters, no guessing, no failed styles, no tired arms, no contemplating big chops, no stress of using too much water, no dandruff. No. Stress.
Yessss I agree I hope she tries it again with more clarity and for the full detox period. I couldn't get the botanical gels(uncle funky,camille rose,kinky curly) to give me the definition that I would like so I used design essentials honey curl custard and the doux's big poppa along with raw black African soap as shampoo to combat the dryness and irritation that I was experiencing on my scalp. A conditioner for mid week cleansing & a good deep conditioner once a week. My wash days have completely transformed & my upkeep throughout the week is so easy. I did get a continuous spray water bottle to make rehydrating easier.
I love your videos and I hope you can try this method again cause I have 4c hair and it has been a game changer! 1. The actual method is using no products with oils and butters in the top 5 ingredients and Melanin Leave In doesn’t, so I do continue to use it as I’ve found it helps with curl separation once I add gel. 2. The uncle funky’s daughter curly magic and Innersense products recommended are CRUCIAL. They are salon quality and concentrated so they work much better. 3. Getting my hair throughly wet, like letting the water run on it for 3-4 minutes straight before I even start my wash day helps with long term moisture retention as well. As well as throughly washing my hair 2-3 times depending on build up. That way the water can actually penetrate into the shaft. I hope you can try again one day!
I've been doing it since January and my hair feels really good! I couldn't stand the LOC method and products like Shea Moisture made my hair feel gross. But to each their own!
I love the loc method! I use all creme of nature argan oil products and pure shea butter. It really fixed my hair. I have low porosity hair though, and I'm unsure of my hair type but it's definitely 4.
After my 2nd big chop I just use hair grease followed by gel and it's never felt better. As someone else said in the comments I follow my own path now and what's best for my hair. Great video StarPuppy.
I tried this method for the full 30 days, and it's a no from me. My hair was the least manageable it's ever been, my hair just needed more, and I didn't even use much to begin with.
@Untainted Afro that’s fair enough, they don’t have the best history but the proof is in their portfolio. Highly recommend Jennifer rose NYC (like Danielle mentioned)
My hair stylist rewetted my hair and forgot to put moisture on it....., my mom had to cut my hair and it hasn't grown back to that length in FIVE YEARS🤨
Omagosh! I'm also trying the no oils no butters hair detox. I kind of did it on and off and it made me realize how much of these oils and butters I didn't need and they were the culprit of all my itching (product buildup). But it made me mostly realize that the Shea butter I was using for my 4C hair is absolutely, positively not necessarily. I just needed a good shampoo, conditioner and leave in. I was an oil fiend as well lol. I was that girl with the soul glow patch on her pillow case. And btw, Black Girl Curls are the originators of this method. Fluff nugget is looking GOOODT!! 😍😍
I switched to the 3 step method and enjoy it more but oils never worked for me or my scalp which is why I was willing to try . Now I just use a really good shampoo ,conditioner and gels like aloe or flaxseed based.Crazy to think I used to do shea butter masks and hot oil treatments constantly.
A week isn’t long enough to see the results, you’ve been using oils and butters for a looong time. It takes time to detox 👍🏾. I used to have a lot of dandruff but since I stopped with the oils that problem went away 🤷🏾♀️. But everyone should do what works for you them.
@@dr-k1667 Sure, you’re absolutely right. And I also want to make a correction, I said result but in actuality I meant it will take longer than a week to reap the benefits, considering everyone’s hair is different. ppl will see different things if they choose to go forward with the process.
Also supposed to sit under a hooded dryer or a diffuser, which is super important for setting the hair in place, soft bonnets just don’t work. I tried it and it wasn’t working out until I bought a hooded dryer. You can not air dry your hair with this method either your hair will shrink up A LOT then you just ruined your style. Hood dryer or diffuser only
I haven't used oil on my scalp since 2019 (if not longer), & my hair has been flourishing! Water based products; pure aloe vera gel, rice water (soak orange peels in it), tree tea, etc. I spray water on my hair & scalp mostly everyday. You can make your own fruit/vegetable based water to stay on your hair. The nutrients feed the scalp. Keep refrigerated. Very refreshing in this heat! Stay healthy!
So no one else jumps down my throat for literally no reason, this comment is directly addressing the video linked in the description. Oh, what they're saying is what we learn in cosmetology school. Use professional grade products. They're chemically formulated to fortify the cortex and seal the cuticle without unnecessary buildup. Typically, build up isn't properly cleansed because folks are literally using conditioner (hair lotion that chemically closes the cuticle) as a cleanser. *Fred Hammond voice* it won't work. Try cleansing your body with some Jurgen's for like a week. It's the same principle. There are no detergents that tell the dirt "Hey! Get outta here!" while simultaneously saying "Come on in water, the hair is fine!" *and* no chemicals to gently open the cuticle... and when I say "chemical" I mean it in the chemistry sense...not the negative, misinformed we typically say "cHeMiCaLs". Nah. remember, water and air are chemicals, period. That's why the caveat of "hazardous" is added to intense chemicals. Most are safe. Anyway, the chemicals we use in hair chemistry all correlate to pH scale. We use bases to open the cuticle to manipulate the cortex to varying degrees, and acids to close them. Oh, yeah...stronger acids can manipulate hair strands in similar ways of strong bases. It's not rocket science...but it *is* chemistry. Y'all are going to take all my first semester of Salon Management and like it 😂
Girl you better than me. You know damn well us 4c people need oil and leave ins to survive. Thank goodness you only tried for a week. Great review you confirmed this does not need to be tired 👍🏾
The no oils, no butter can be for those who don’t like them. I’m with you Danielle, I am staying with what I know is working. It is good to know there are other ways to achieve results that work for our hair. Thanks for educating me with this video.
With this method I’m never clear why people do wash and go’s then bonnet the hair down. I do this method and I would say you gotta use a good clarifying shampoo when you first try this method to make sure your hair and scalp is super clear before a moisturizing shampoo and conditioner. Use regular water (rose can dry the hair) and flat twist with a foam (like the doux’s!) for a way nicer style. If I did a wash and go I’d just leave it out and sleep with a satin pillowcase. If you do all that you shouldn’t have to moisturize your hair throughout the week because it retains its softness and moisture
As someone who uses an essential oil blend to predominantly keep my scalp psoriasis symptoms under control and keep my hair healthy, this is literally a non-starter for me 🥴🥴🥴
@@lovelyme9384 Tea Tree Oil and Eucalyptus Oil are a must. They will be your active ingredients that will make all the difference. Now they can't be put directly on your skin as they are chemically potent and can be harmful. You don't need to buy diluted (as in you can get 100% pure) TTO or EO but they need to be mixed with carrier oils, which are any other essential oils that are safe to directly go on your skin. The carrier oils I use also have great benefits for my hair as well. The main ones I use are: Olive oil Sweet almond oil Vegetable Glycerin Jojoba oil Castor oil Argan oil Coconut oil I use lavender oil and/or peppermint oil for fragrance. There are other oils that can be added such as avocado, chamomile, or grape seed. You can even melt down cocoa or Shea butters (but not too much) and add them to your blend. The specific blend is up to you. Personally, I wet my 4c afro everyday/every other day to detangle. While it's still wet (but not soaking, damp is fine) I rub the oil all over my scalp and massage it in. I add a small amount, enough to feel a pleasant cool tingling feeling all over. It really helps with itch and flaking, and provides me with instant relief. I do still use hair products to add in much needed water-based moisture for my hair as the oil alone will leave my hair itself dry as it won't penatrate the strand. After about a week I need to wash my hair to remove excess oil/product and clean up any flakey patches if I've had a flare up. I always let my hair air dry after I style it how I want. The shampoo and conditioner you use is up to you. Ultimately, this is just a start and personally, it took some experimentation and time to really figure out what worked for me. My scalp has become manageable and presentable and my hair is very thick, soft, and strong. It's been quite the journey but well worth it. Side note: you can get everything I mentioned from a beauty supply store or if you wanna buy bulk/wholesale size and save money in the long run you can buy from Amazon. Also please, do NOT ingest anything. Everything should be applied topically. The disclaimer is just for safety 😅
Thsnk you for trying this and I understand why you're not continuing this method. Your hair looks lovely but your scalp doesn't feel good and that's a problem.🤔 Like you, my scalp hasn't been itchy (or any dandruff) in years and I am hesitant to to consider this method. You keep doing what's best for your hair and scalp. 🥰
Yeah.... I tried this at the beginning of my journey and mid way.... no. Just no. My hair REVOLTED. It was 4-5 days of 6+ hours of detangling.... NEVER AGAIN.
@@purplegirl1152 I found doing a deep conditioner _and_ hot oil treatment before twists was always best! When putting in the twists, I warm style, water and oil warm/hot to the touch. I find I get a much more defined twist out and I use less product!
First time seeing her content and i just have to say how can a woman be so damn infatuating. Like it’s not even jus her looks it’s the energy. Wholesome and genuinely joyful.
The flower in your hair for the sponsored clip was the perfect touch. When you started holding up the oils and leave-in, I was rolling. Omg it was so funny 🤣
Elasticity is an indicator of health. Malleability does lend to fragility. Plus this method does need time to adjust the hair is used to depending on manual oil so it’s oil production is waaaaay less. The scalp is reactive. Similar to the way people who wash their hair often produce more oil, people who apply oil often and wash their hair weekly or biweekly will produce less oil.
I did this method when I lived in FL because the humidity levels are so high and when I lived in NY in the summers & Spring. But now that I live in Portland I did it out of laziness ONCE! My hair said humidity where bitch😭
Exactly....... I need to use a sulfate chelating shampoo in London where the tap water is trash. so when I see people saying something different I'm like you don't live where I live and have my exact hair type so how I'm going do what you do. lol!
I have been doing this on my hair since my big chop in November 2019, and my hair is now over down pass shoulders, just simply with coconut oil as Preshampoo and leave-in after shampoo top up with again coconut oil. Very simple, I don't use any cream and butter or any other products since beginning. Love my DIYs and my hair just grows, so healthy and I am loving my natural hair.
It's crazy how there's so much backlash against the no oils and no butters challenge, but when there was a rice water challenge, a hot oil treatment challenge, a chebe challenge, any ayruvedic hair care challenge there was no backlash. People just couldn't wait to jump on it and commit to it for the WHOLE however many days or months the challenge lasted. Tbh I don't even see the no oils no butters thing as a challenge I see it as simplifying my hair care routine. It's also convenient in other ways like I don't have to worry about leaving greasy patches on my wall, my pillow and whatever my dorag comes into contact with, so yeah that's definitely a plus.
One main reason for the backlash is the elitist, condesending tone of the 'no butter/oils' team. (Just like the water-wash team & the no-comb team) I've had several call me stupid and a fool for using oils even though my hair is in excellent condition. Why should I change from what works for me? And why do people who don't know me or my hair assume they know better than me what works? There are no magic tricks or one size fits all for our hair. Acting like you know without a doubt what will work on all black hair is misleading. Insinuating that someone is ignorant because they won't do what you do is derogatory. Its why I don't follow the natural community much, too many natural hair facists!
I definitely feel you with the scalp being itchy and hair feeling a bit dry. I was super hesitant at first and had the same results. But after continuing the process my hair became softer and my scalp was so clean. I’m thinking I felt this way at first because my hair was going through withdrawals without my oils and greases. But now; my hair feels incredible and it’s moisturized throughput the week. It also took my hair from a low porosity to a medium low, so it holds in moisture more easily. Either way do what’s right for you and if you decide to do it again I hope you get to see better results.
This 3 step method is the only thing thats worked for me. Been using it since before ppl named it that. i find that most things the natural hair community suggest doesnt work at all for me.
Same. Oils and heavy butters always make my hair flaky and kills all definition instantly. I just use conditioner and gel on my wash and go. No cream or oil.
I’ve been doing this “method” forever. I haven’t seen other videos on how to or anything, but the way I do it works for my hair. Shampoo, deep conditioning/detangle. Regular conditioner as leave in, section off and add gel to sections, air dry (I live in a super dry climate so it dries in 3-5 hours) I do this every 5 to 7 days. In mornings I use the steam from the shower to moisturize, and sometimes a spray bottle with water and conditioner. It works for me. I find oils on my hair locks moisture out and my hair feels dry by day 2. I do rub oil on my scalp occasionally.
I recommend Jennifer Rose to anyone watching this. But only if you’re open to change. Just saying that hate care should not be a struggle and there’s a reason so many of us deal with dry scalp and brittle hair.
Your curl definition was awesome! I have been doing research on this method and there are so many steps you did not follow to get the results the creators talk about. I believe your week results would have been so much better had you done so. Thanks for sharing!
I hope you find the black girl curl version of what you are trying to do. I've seen other 4c naturals use their See Some Curls method and they look amazing without suffering.
I saw this method first on Jen Jackson's channel and it seems to be working for her. By all means, if it works for some, it works... In my opinion - I can be wrong - it seems to work better for those with longer hair that's already developed into an "adult" afro, I think my teeeny weeeeny purely 4c "baby" afro would punish me severely if I had the audacity. Sticking to my Afrocenchix products, LOC and all that juicy yumminess.
I have a short loose but very coarse very thick head of hair, and it takes some adjusting to. We’re used to feeling a very oily slippery feel to the hair and scalp and a sudden change will inevitably shock the hair and scalp. But it’s like withdrawal, it goes away. I shaved my hair clean off then did the three step method on my virgin hair and it’s great
It's not for long hair. Check out @cutitkinky which is @iamblackgirlcurls page for stylists. The other is their ordinary page. You will see that they say most naturals using oils and butters have dehydrated hair and they cut nearly everyone into either a sharp bob or taper style to start regrowing the hair out. Most of the people following this method are being made to start over if they go to a curl stylist so they do not have long hair. The stylists will then help them to grow it out. They claim lots of people's hair is short in the crown so they cut the hair in a way that the crown will grow out bettet with the back and avoid a mullet. Mostly, I think stylists like that sharp look. I've yet to see anyone with long hair on these stylists instagrams come out with long hair after the process.
@@PieceMeals you have to remember that long hair isn't a goal for everyone so that shouldn't be a marker for whether something works or not. Also stylists can only post the clients that come into the salon and give permission to be posted online. so perception may be skewed. I've seen other clients with long hair on other stylists that have trained with them or have similar phillsophies. It honestly depends on who you follow.
It’s the eyes, ears, nose, teeth, hydration, lushness…
It’s actually the DNA for me
Like, how can someone be that pretty
Yeah she's gorgeous!
@@oshun7772 like l would hang a painting of her in my house!!! Gorgeous man!!!!!
Yesss!🖤
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought this
Everything isn't for everyone... do what works for you. Period.
Honestly sis!!!!
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For real. I don’t really use oil. So this makes sense to me. But I’m not shaming someone else’s routine.
I tried to reduce my oil usage and use more cleansing shampoos, honestly my hair just likes oils, I tried to do a protective style and my scalp felt terrible until I spray water on it and used an oil. I think ppl should present these things like a suggestion rather than a shame contest, you should take what you want from advice and leave the rest.
I think before anyone does this detox they need to actually read the book and follow the stylist that created it. Also if your hair is thriving don’t try someone else path. It could destroy your progress. Your hair was flourishing and this detox isn’t for everyone.
I agree @chi Denise; do you have the stylist and/or book reference information?!
Exactly... Ppl be sleeping with their deep conditioner in, which is bad. Ppl be using to much oil on their hair which doesnt help.
Your hair naturally has a waterproof protectionlayer, that allows it to dry easily and just takes in a tiny bit of water - just like our skin. Most shampoos destroy that layer which makes the hair dry and causes caucasian scalp to produce more and more and more sebum oil which makes their hair thw way it is.
So if your protection layer is destroyed, your hair gets too much water wmand therefore will deffo dry out. Your hair is built with oil and water. So look specifically at your history. Every hair is different. Not just structure-wise but also PH-Level wise.
The question shouldn't be: oil/no oil but what does my Hair need?! And different hair needs different things.
Sending love to all the natural queens out there
Isn't this supposed to go for just a few weeks or so? Or you are supposed to stay doing things this way?
what is the detox for?
@@dephomega9490 the detox is to learn to know your real hair without the artificial softness of oils. If your texture is coarse it doesn't always mean your hair is dry. The duo of Iamblackgirlcurls has an ig and TH-cam channel.
Here are a couple of tips for this challenge (if you or anyone else decides to go ahead with it)
1. Oils and butters are not inherently bad for the hair. In fact, when we look at the ingredient list of most of the hair care products we use (shampoo and conditioner), they have shea butter and all types of oils in them. The way it is processed, however, is different. The use of RAW butters and RAW oils is the area of focus. Naturals use it in excess which can prevent the hair from receiving an ample amount of water in the hair (ever notice sometimes your hair takes a while to absorb? it's because of this).
2. Using lots of water in each step is KEY. Water really is our best friend. When shampooing, make sure you're using a quality shampoo (same with conditioner). When conditioning, first apply the conditioner in your hands and emulsify before adding it to the hair and then add a bit of water (that helps to create the ultimate slip). Elongating the hair while shampooing also helps flatten the hair better for a wash and go (and prevents tangles). Now for the wash and go process, again, water is key. Make sure your hair is soaking wet with water to get as much length in your wash and go as possible. BGC does not recommend gels like Aunt Jackie's. Uncle Funky's Daughter Curly Magic is a wonderful botanical gel that holds in the moisture in the hair. if you want a gel to put on top with extra hold , Innersence beauty I create hold is a great product. Also, I noticed you used a soft bonnet dryer when drying the wash and go. That is not recommended because it compresses the hair and does not leave room for it to actually get dry while maintaining definition. Using a diffuser or a hard bonnet dryer is recommended (it holds the style in place much better)
I really hope all this helps! Not using oils or butters takes some time to get used to. I've been on this journey since March and I realized that I had to be patient with my hair. I love that you were willing to try this challenge out. I wish you all the best (should you decide to continue on with it) :).
It’s definitely been a nice change for me. I may still use creams with hold during the winter but as of now gels are all I need.
Very well explained!
Wonderful comment that’s helpful for kinky curly hair care even when not doing this method!
Yes yes yesss!!
Yeah, I hate the fact that people are doing all the steps wrong and then claiming it doesn't work. That's like tweaking the heck out of a recipie and telling everyone not to make it it...even though you made something off script.
No oil? I would simply pass away
Right-
The moment I made that decision my locs would probably just immediately pop off of my head lol
@@herefortheshrimp1469 I just imagined your locs hopping off your head. 😂😂
Yall are killing me with these comments 🤣🤣🤣
Lol
All of her looks were stunning and her hair looked so thick
I agree!
Fluffnugget is really healthy! :)
I think she was more concerned about how it felt. I have similar hair to her, and I already know what my hair is like when I don't put anything on it after a wash (due to laziness). The hair will be quite fragile, and the scalp can be itchy. For me anyway.
"Are you talking bantu me?!" 😌 "Don't you twist out my words!" 😌
I see what you did there Danielle 😏 and I am HERE for the verbal foolishness!!! 😅😂🤣🤣🤣
Don't you braid (berate) me!!
@@Wewereneveryoung - I wanted to type that one too but I was laughing too hard from the first two so THANK YOU! 😁😄
@@Passion84GodAlways always happy to spread the weirdness 😄!
@@Wewereneveryoung YASSSSSS!!! 🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾
@@Passion84GodAlways verbal weirdness,,,,yaasssszzzz. lol!
You're supposed to use botanical gels for this. Like camille rose curl maker, or uncle funky's curly magic, followed by a stronger hold gel that's also botanical like Innersense I create hold or kinky curly knot today. Other options: curlsmith gels.... like all of them. Jessicurl spiralicious. That's all I can think of at the moment.
Jennifer Rose uses ecostyler, she likes things cheap.
Yup so your hair can pull moisture from the environment
@@adwoamk8918 Jennifer and black girl curls have slightly different philosophies on product. The main thing is humectants as layer one and anti humectants as layer two
@@adwoamk8918 really??? Can you provide evidence of this
also it takes more than a week for it to show good results sometimes lol
You are only to use a clarifying shampoo and a water based conditioner weekly for the 30 days. Hence the "detox", then the gel to set. It has transformed my hair which is amazingly similar to yours. Doing this will eliminate the itch, increase your own sebum and give you the softness your missing. Love ya channel!!!!
girllll. the thought of this challenge alone makes my scalp flake. i cantttttt.
my scalp will fight me.
I know, right? LOL
I could not try this at ALL. I live in Las Vegas. There is not a bit of humidity. My hair would break off by 2pm
I was thinking the same thing. I lived in Vegas, this method isn't for everyone
I live near Phoenix and our weather is pretty much identical to yours. I knew I shouldn’t try this but I did and within about 4 hours after washing my hair it was dry and hard. I only lasted two days and I had to re-wash it and moisturize it properly (what’s proper for me). It’s been three weeks and I swear my hair is STILL mad at me. Never again. I don’t care what anyone says lol
Same I live in Alaska and I’m not trying be bald.
Not 2:00 PM! 😂😂😂😂
@@Ash3aKosh Girl what you doing up in Alaska??
Oil never helped me keep in moisture and never acted as a sealant for me but I kept trying because the “natural hair” community told me it was the only way to moisturize my hair. so this detox really helped me and helped people like me whose hair have never thrived from using oils.
Im one of those people. Oil doesn't work on my skin or hair and it breaks me out/causes dandruff/dry hair. Since I've detoxed it's helped me too.
Ever thought of trying grease. I'm going back to grease for good. Its the only thing that keeps my hair from knotting up. my hair is so much easier to detangle when I use grease. I'm 4b 4c by the way.
What grease do you use?
@Untainted Afro what do you mean by grease? Like Palmer's hair grease? Food grease like vegetable oil?
I used the blue magic too but it's so thick I can't detangle my hair with it, I need something lighter
@@LoXena What I do is an apple cider vinegar rinse before I shampoo. When I rinse out the shampoo I sometimes do a light finger detamgle and stretch out the hair with my hands. Then I deep condition with conditioner and olive oil and that makes my hair very soft and easy to detangle. I also detangle and use a comb in my hair only when I'm rinsing out my deep conditioner under the water.
@@LoXena I don't know if that could work for you. I have 4c hair and I use the Blue Magic Indian Hemp grease to moisturize my scalp and hair. Optionally you could use shea butter on the hair alone and not scalp as it makes the hair much softer.
I did it and my wash and gos are lasting 10 days, wat shinier. They are a little harder but they are loose enough after that first banding, which I do in 10 sections.
As someone who has fine 4 type hair and dermatitis on the scalp. I had to leave the oils and butters ALONE. My scalp is so much better. I’ll put a light moisturizer every now and again. But I mostly stick to shampoo and conditioning, protein, and that’s it. My hair wasn’t used to it at first but I’m learning that less is more. My hair now responds to it. I think shampooing and conditioning more often has been a game changer since water and a clean scalp really is key. Also with fine hair, all of that oil and butter weighs it down.
I'm the same. I can't put anything on my scalp. Not sure if you are having the same problem, but my stylist told me to start using a clarifying shampoo on my scalp everytime I wash. And since then, no flakes.
@@apara2005 yes me too!!!! it used to be so bad!
I'm type 4 with long history of seborrheic dermatitis. I can use oils and butters but I never apply directly to my scalp. My SD is controlled by washing at least once weekly. I use Anita Grant products because they are "cleaner" with far fewer chemicals. For me, many of the chemicals used in common used products irritate the heck out of my scalp.
I'm going to start this because baby my scalp is mad.
I have the feeling it's getting more & more complicated with type 4 hair care. At least twice a year something will come up and the hair community will tell you not to use something. 😎 I don't see anything wrong with using butters & oils as long as we wash our hair regularly. Buildup is what prevents low porosity hair from absorbing liquids. ❤️
I know i saw one girl who did detox and come to find out she goes 3-4 weeks with out washing so of course she has build up n may need a detox. Not judging cuz if going that long without washing works for someone thats fine but i wash my hair once a week so i dont get build up like that. I just think some natural you tubers need to be careful about making blanket statements like that. They need to be clear about who their target audience is or what problem theyre addressing. This method isnt for ppl who wash their hair regularly . N tell ppl if your hair is fine no need to try. I knew better n didnt follow the trend but there are new naturals that need more disclaimers outside of " this may not work for you" they just need a little more clarity is all.
@@chrise7122 Exactly, so true!!
I don’t know if it will work for me or not and I guess I’ll never know cause I love my oils and butters, my hair loves them but, I wash my hair every sat
Okay, firstly, like if you like it then do what you want. But just some points based on what was mentioned:
1. Your scalp may just be used to the oil which makes it dry. It doesn't need to feel super lubricated always but I felt like there was an adjustment period where my scalp needed to up its sebum level (or... something) after I stopped putting stuff on it. That parched feeling without oil eventually left. I still have other issues (present way before I removed raw oils) but that sorta shock response passed for me.
2. Related to (1), you're pretty used to how your hair feels lubricated so it'll feel drier without the oils and stuff.
3. My understanding is that eventually elongation will come but it's a technique thing. Same w the dense roots. There's a TH-camr (Maame cerwah I believe) who stretches her wash n gos with this method iirc.
4. Leave ins are mostly not included in this "method" because they don't contribute to the style. They can impair definition that you would achieve with just gel. I myself am pretty attached to leave in so I get it 😂. I use it mostly when I'm going for fluffier looks.
I leave long comments lol. I still haven't worked out what gel I like and I'm not a huge fan of the gel cast in general so I've been doing wash and gos with mousse (they don't really last but where am I going + I wash my hair very often). I've eventually managed to get some movement with gel but my hair is short, so I don't get a lot anyway.
I love your texture so much!
Just a note: this method is supposed to be used long term so you can see a huge difference. It’s essentially “moisture training” the hair.. so the more you wash it and give it water - the more it will be moisturized. The oils give the illusion that the hair is soft but it’s really just coated.
Exactly~! Key word here is “Training”. Training your hair is a very apt description, it means you don’t see results straight away and may even feel as if you’ve regressed but you have to keep going so your hair can start adapting naturally. It took about 2-3 months to notice several changes in my 4b/4c hair: namely 1) the texture all round has become more uniform (the crown area used to be more 4b and wavy, couldn’t hold a curl whereas everywhere else was a lot tighter and coarse) now most of the sections of my hair is somewhere between the two which means I’m not having to do different things with the different parts of my hair. 2) Curls & Definition. Enough said. 3) My hair is softer~! Maybe I just never found a good leave-in conditioner that worked for me but believe me when I say I tried all the “reputable” brands out there. What I found was that I was becoming wholly dependent on these conditioners to keep my hair soft even as they were drying it out so I was having to apply them up to 5 times throughout the day to maintain that moisturised state when the protein in some of these products was the main problem. It was like an unhealthy addiction with a vicious cycle: dry hair > apply conditioner > conditioner causes dryness > apply more conditioner and so on and so forth. I would sometimes add a spritz of water just so I could rework the conditioner in without having to apply more but every time I’d go in with just my water and aloe vera mixture my hair just suddenly felt revived and quenched so I eventually started thinking, why not just stick to that as the main “product” and gradually started seeing the benefits. The main change though besides the texture and softness is the relationship between my hair and water: I’ve gone from LP to MP and that’s insane because I thought once your hair has been identified as low porosity that was it - there was no possible way that it could change, it was set in stone, like your genes. But I noticed several sections where the water would just sit on top of my hair until I worked it in are now absorbing the water a lot quicker without any push from me. I still do use oils for hot oil treatments about once a month. I’ve never been one to use grease or heavy butters as they were atrocious for someone with a predisposition to dry scalp. The water I use is 4 parts distilled water, 4 parts aloe vera (blended and strained), 1.5 part goats milk conditioner and a few drops of rosemary + vitamin e oil. & that’s enough for me.
Also massaging the sebum down the hair is important. Oils and butters are very helpful, but sometimes it seems like they are used with the thought that 4c hair doesn't have natural oils like other types and that's not true. Our sebum has to be massaged through the hair with water. Our hair can be more self sustaining than we realize.
I did that when my hair was short but had to stop after a year.
@@timtapp5931 I see your point about sebum, but her scalp seems to produce less than most (her mention of having dry, tight, itchy scalp).
But why doesn't anyone consider that your hair could also adapt to using oils and butters or has already adapted and is flourishing the way it is. The fact that it cries when you stop means there isnt one way to do hair 🙃
Sis, you betta than me because the way MY high-porosity, multi-textured hair is set up!💅🏾🙅🏾♀️
RIGHT!!!!
Yes! If I did this method my hair would be one big spider web of tangles.
I totally thought my coarse high porosity hair wouldn’t function without oil heavy products and such but the 3 step life is so much easier and my hair behaves better once it got over the initial shock
@@isabellevasquez7433 - I'm happy for you. 😊
Thank you for sharing. 😊
@@Passion84GodAlways exactly. I have fine high porosity hair and it's knot city up there with no oils lol
Best detox I ever did for my hair is bentonite clay mask. My hair is unbelievably soft, clean and defined after. Then I go right back to oils and butters and it works like a charm.
“He anoints my head with oil.” Psalm
23. I’ll stick with that anointed head of hair; thank you very much!😂
🤣🤣🤣
Haha ! Same 🙌🏽
Oh my God! 😂💀
Ha ha yes!!!
hallelujah
There is a bit of a detox process when cutting out oils. You have to clarify for a few washes to remove all of the oil. Otherwise, you’re just removing the lubricación effects of the oil but the water still can’t get into your hair.
Water can get into your hair otherwise it wouldn't get wet, it just takes longer. Washing to the point of stripping every last drop of oil, sebum or otherwise, sounds like a bad idea.
Clarify for a few washes to remove all the oil?? That sounds like hell on earth for my low porosity hair
@@loismetuge9316 ok. I have low porosity hair, too. My hair is much more hydrated after I clarify. I use a clarifying shampoo that is gentle and follow with a moisturizing shampoo to adjust the ph. My conditioner is actually able t do it’s job when I do this.
@@wordswitha7 that’s why you follow up with a moisturizing shampoo and conditioner and use lots of water...
@@Muslimah33 what is the shampoo called?
I used no oil ONCE on an accident..and to do it purposely for 30 days would be murder on my scalp..I don’t use bitters as often but I still love them so much
ikr, my hair would be so brittle and stiff
try it again! I used to swear by oils on my scalp, and would also experience extreme dryness if i forgot to oil after wash day. i stuck to the no oils, butters or creams and did only wash and gos and my scalp feels better than it has ever felt in the past 15 years lol
@@valerie9034 I refuse…I been using oils I. My regimen since I went natural in 2011 I’m not gonna fix what’s not broken. It works for me…me and my dry scalp need it lol
@@marleycymon3512 yes girl my hair was a hot mess that week…it was like uncooked ramen..stiff and crispy 😂
me personally i’ve heard many natural hair specialists say it’s better to not use butters or oils and just a cleansing shampoo a moisturizing shampoo and a conditioner that’s what i’ve been doing and i never have to re moisturize until wash day. and the dry and brittle way your hair feels is because there is no water in your hair. oils and butters just give the effect of making your hair soft and shiny making you think your hair is moisturized when you only get moisture from water.
I never liked oils in my hair it just made my hair more ashy lol. Life without all the butters and oils have been so liberating for me and my hair been thanking me so much.
Absolutely obsessed with day 7 fit. Looking insanely gorgeous
I think this method actually depends on climate and the hardness of water in your area. If you are in humid Florida, Louisiana, or Southeastern Texas, getting enough moisture from the environment is a possible solution it makes sense. But if you live in a place with a more dry and arid climate like Nevada, New Mexico or Arizona, I'm curious as to where all this moisture is supposed to come from. For someone living in these areas, sealing with a butter oil may be the only thing they can do to ensure to make sure the moisture in their hair doesn't evaporate as quickly.
Also, some places have harder water than others, and it may not be beneficial to constantly wash or wet the hair with that hard water. Unless you can install a water softening system, many are better off just washing once a week and using a refresher spray or distilled water in between to add more moisture until wash day.
Lastly, I think the real problem some are having with butters and oils is sulfate-free shampoos. They are not as effective at removing heavy products like silicone or butters from the hair, and if you are consistently using a shampoo that is sulfate free, that may explain why butters are being blamed as the culprit for dryness of a lack of suppleness to the hair, instead of inadequate cleansing products. I went back to using sulfates for this very reason and haven't had any problems since then.
If I could like this comment a million times I would!
About hard water: there are some shampoos that help with that. One that I hear about a lot is the Malibu Undo-Goo or Goo Undo or something like that. One could also get a hard water treatment from a stylist if one who provides that service is in their area. Just options for anyone worried about hard water to consider.
There are people all over the country who follow this approach to hair care. Botanical gels with humectants help with moisture retention, but it evaporates over the course of a week or so. That’s why you do it weekly - shampoo, condition, and style. The moisture comes from shampooing and conditioning (water).
@@michelleej Humectants also transfer moisture faster out of your hair in drier climates.
Preachhhhhhh
Let’s put the chaos to full throttle and try the maximum hydration method. 🤠
lol! We is trying to be Thanos now snap and make that hair and scalp disappear. lol!
@@marleyhill34 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Noooo her whole head is gonna fall off 😭
Omg! MHM was exactly what I thought of when I heard about this 3- Step method! Like, people don't need all these rules to care for hair, we just need to do what works for us lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Chile if this new trend didn't remind me of that too! And we know what happened there. But the interesting thing about any "discovery" like this...we do usually get beneficial knowledge about our hair from it. I use some techniques from "water only washing", some techniques from "max hydration", and some techniques from "oil rinsing" and "heavy oiling". On this one, I think I'm already on the wagon with fewer products (although one of my fewer includes an oil , butter, leave in conditioner in some configuration).
I would love to see you go to a curl specialist and have them do this method on you. Would be a great video to see
Not everyone has enough moisture in the air where they live for this to work. Dry air will also have the opposite effect when it comes to hhumectants. Some people bout to be real pissed when winter hits and all that moisture get pulled back into the air. Please watch a
Afophe Atoyebi ( an actual follicular scientist) or the Curly Chemist on their thoughts of this no oils method before trying. Some oils are meant to Pena treat the hair some are meant to protect, some are meant to lock in moisture etc. If this method works on some peoples hair that’s great for them but you’re not actually being any healthier than the regular method of leave in and oils yada yada yada. This method was based off of one sentence of hair science and now people are just running with it without any research on their own. Which again is fine to each their own I don’t get me started on the comments of people try to tell other people how to do their natural hair and how this method is so much better 🙄.
🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 Amen. Some of the comments are sus to me. They sound like straight up advertisement for certain stylists or products.
What's crazy is that it's based on one fact... "That the scalp produces its own oil" But so does the rest of our skin. How come we still get ashy without putting lotions and oils? I'm leaving these trend for people with long enough hair to not care how much eventually snaps off after the trend passes
@@LoXena the method works better for them. They may switch up stylers /styles during the seasons but the fundamentals are the same. Not everybody likes the same routine. that's fine.
@@yvetteibrahims4487 EXACTLY! I can do this method during the summer since there is enough humidity, however come fall winter? HELL NO!
Just like I can go all summer with a lotion, but I *NEED* a thick body butter for winter or I look like an ashy zombie.
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This honestly worked really well for me. You could be not using enough water, that’s reaaaallly crucial to this method working. And you can use some leave ins! I don’t always use one but it’s allowed! And it’s important to use a gel with humectants in it as well. I still believe in scalp oils but only for specific conditions (like I have psoriasis and emollients are clinically proven to help soothe it). The method is a little complicated but it’s also very simple. I recommend going to Jennifer rose nyc’s TH-cam channel and watching her q and a videos! It’s also important to not conflate an oily residue to softness or health! Your hair will feel different
Love Jennifer rose nyc and SWEAR by her recommendations. I wont turn back.
I agreeee!
The way my flakes work!! No oils will have me looking crusty and dusty by the head.
Have you seen a dermatologist? You should see one if not
@@oemiller I found the best solution years ago with Jamaican Black Castor oil. No flakes, no itch, hair flourishing and moisturized. Before I used it, I thought about seeing a dermatologist. But my $8 castor oil blessed me before I went, and I'm thankful
Me too my scalp is drier than the Sahara
@Faith Green my hair flewd down my back, and I'm not mad at it 😂
i've had dandruff/dry (sometimes even scabby) scalp issues my entire life up until I've tried this method. My scalp looks brand new!! Not a flake in sight! I highly recommend you at least try this method for a month. also don't sleep with wet hair!
I've been using only mousse for 3 months now and my hair is honestly THRIVING
How please
@@Babes600 I shampoo and deep condition like normal, then I only use the aunt Jackie's mousse and sometimes oil my scalp. That's it!
I'm assuming you mean a water-based gel like The Curl Maker by Camille Rose or that foaming coconut hibiscus mousse by Shea Moisture when you say mousse? Or ARE you talking bout a cream-based mousse that contains oils & butters akin to the coconut /hibiscus curl smoothie souffle by Shea Moosture?? *Those are just examples, but I don't necessarily mean those specific brands*
If that's u in ur pfp then u are SUPER PRETTY
@@dominiquedevereux7205 a water based gel, the curl maker is a good example. Although I've been using a mix of both at the moment which I think my hair prefers than just the water based gel
we don't have to fit in to a particular school of thought. we have to do what our hair likes and thrives on..period
Yeah I have to have some kind of oil in my hair... I hate that tight on the scalp feeling especially with fine hair it feels like it can just break off
Very true! I tried this method the other day. It was rough. Definitely feels soo tight and i feel like I can't touch my hair or it'll just break 😭
Fluff Nugget looks nice today. Like she going to some kinda gala or something.
You're hilarious! I gave this a go for about six weeks.Honestly I learnt a couple of things from this I learnt from it was that I don't have 4c hair and my leave in, IS MY STYLER and because my hair is healthy. I don't need to DEEP CONDITIONER every week. I don't like my hair without a leave in but I didn't need as much product as I thought. Lastly the only way I can use a gel is to layer it but I'm not a fan of too much crunch. I think I'll do a wash and go if I'm on holiday but otherwise I prefer the feel of my hair from a twist-out.
At the end of the day we should all do what is best for you and your lifestyle. :D
Looking so fluffy in this intro, dang!
You are a brave woman,who really took one for the team. We thank you.💓
My hair loves oils, hated no oils, the end. I'm glad you stopped when you needed to and went back to what works
Exactly.
Amen
i feel your pain i decided to do this method a year ago and my hair broke off and became hard and stiff, but as soon as put the oil and cream back in my hair went right back to normal. so i think that method only works for some not all people's hair
You’ve been using oils for years. There was literally no possible way this was going to work after a week. I’d also do a bit more research on the products to use during the detox. It’s a 30 day detox for a reason - one week is definitely not long enough.
finally someone making sense in this comment section
thank you!!!!!
It also is just a hair care change, not a detox, which makes it seem like you should go back to using oils and butters afterwards.
But that wouldn’t be good for a clickbait video like this lol 😂
Right, no way 1 week could clear away all of the oils and butters added to the oils and butters included in the hair products.
Basically a lot of naturals don't wash their hair with a sulfate shampoo to get rid of product buildup. If you put a lot of products on your hair before washing your hair you need to wash your hair with a shampoo that will rid the scalp and hair of build up point blank period. Use your regular hair products but you just don't have to use extra products on your hair. We watch these videos with people using a bunch of products on the hair. If you know your hair you know what it needs.
Ohmygosh! I am consistently blown away by how beautiful you are, Sis! The last shot after the full week... STUNNING! Your hairstyle and length (with shrinkage) complimented you BEAUTIFULLY!
Yeah, I had to learn how to use oils and butters properly. My hair and scalp thrive with them and I have never seen anyone with extremely long hair who got there by not using oils and butters. I don’t know of an ethnic culture that does not incorporate them in their regimen either. You are very pretty and hilarious! ❤️🤗 new subbie!
Exactly 😊
Yes! This comment. Looking at everyone with hair down their back (including me) use butter and oils pretty religiously. It’s honestly not for everyone though. You have to know your hair and have good technique. Also for my very course type 4 hair, wash n goes are the devil lol
Just becaue you dont know of any does not mean there are not any out there
Most people from other cultures do use oils but they wash their hair right after.. Like after doing a oil rinse. Or a hot oil scalp massage, they wash their hair. But many of us with natural hair keep the oils in. even reapplying oil daily without washing it out. I think that's the difference.
I am currently on this no oils journey right now and loving it. I've eliminated steps and time from my wash day, and my hair and scalp are loving it! That being said, I think there are certain things that just suit people differently so take what you need and throw away the rest lol. Opposite to you, I started this method because oils made my scalp super itchy and my hair very brittle, and I no longer have that problem, so if oils always worked for you especially on your scalp, I would say keep that up. I also use the aunt jackies flaxseed gel, and I found it to be quite drying/ stiffening when used alone. I use kinky curly custard underneath and have found my wash n go's to be softer and more elongated as a result. Blackgirlcurls recommended using botanical gels underneath a topper gel, so you could try that next time you do a wash and go, but if botanical gels aren't your thing, definitely reinstate the leave in. I think you will definitely notice the difference in softness and movement. I think they consider leave in to be an unnecessary step because it's a "styler without hold" but if you're using just the flaxseed gel, I would say it's okay to add the leave in step back in.
Same! My hair was in horrible condition during all but this last year of my 16 year natural hair journey. I tried every oil, butter, grease, leave-in, deep conditioner, etc and each year my hair fell out or broke off more and more. By the time I turned 40 I just eventually assumed I had genetic hair loss issues as my mom and grandmother also struggled with hair loss at an older age. Oils, especially the ones with hair growth claims, always exacerbated the issue. Finally, after listening to Jennifer Rose and a few other stylists speaking the same language my hair has been THRIVING. I didn’t think the crown and nape of my hair would ever not break off. Eliminating raw oils, simply shampooing, conditioning and using one styler (usually mousse def) is all my hair needs!!!
I feel y'all not trusting the process with this one but it takes timeeee!! My first month and a half of trying this was a mess but it gets better! Having a solid cut and finding the right gel for you is important too. I've been wash and go only for 5 months now, I just did my first twist out last week and now I hate it lol. If you're open to trying it you've gotta commit to at least 30 days, and at least 5-6 washes in that time. You've also gotta get used to shrinkage and your actual natural pattern (🙃 this was the hardest part for me). Either way, this method changed my entire routine for the better! I highly recommend giving it a try.
Everything doesn’t work for everybody.
5-6 washes in 30 days? Nahh, hard pass
Uh, see, it was the term "SNAPPY BACKY" that put me on the floor laughing. Yay, Star Puppy.
When I started the @Iamblackgirlcurls 30 day hair detox I was using the same aunt Jackie's gel because that's what I had and it's really because that gel is mostly plastic the flaxseed is way at the bottom of the ingredients list with no hold. You gotta use a botanical gel like the uncle funky's or the curl mix flaxseed gels that have more of the actual ingredients your hair needs for this method to work. It makes a huge difference. If you want you washngo stretched just hit your roots with a concentration attachment once it's dry. After 30 days of no oil my scalp was so much better because I was removing the buildup on my scalp from using oils and butters weekly and it finally got a chance to breathe. You really have to commit to the 30 days and practice the technique with the right products to get it down. It definitely felt completely wrong the first time I did it but I feel like I've gained so much time back and better hair health because of it. If you go to iamblackgirlcurls TH-cam channel they have videos with 4C clients.
It’s a 30 day detox😂 you’ve been using oils for years a week isn’t nearly enough
YOU & YOUR HAIR ARE SO BEAUTIFUL & THERAPEUTIC FOR ME! THANK YOU . I COULD JUST CRY SEEING THE SUCCESS OF YOU & YOUR HAIR EVEN DURING THE NO OIL ETC CHALLENGE! WOWOWOWOW YOU ARE WINNING ON SO MANY LEVELS! EVEN WHEN UR FEELING BRATTY IN THIS TEMPORARY SITUATION! LOVING YOU FOR THESE TRUTHS! WOW! THERAPEUTIC!
The no-oil, no- butter treatment for hair is actually possible. When I moved to a European country there was simply no hair oil, hair butter or any products for Black hair because at the time the population was about 97% Caucasian.
I simply used to wash and condition my 4c hair every day, then comb it whilst the hair was still wet. My hair flourished and was super healthy!
Isn’t it bad to wash your hair everyday though? Doesn’t it too all the natural oils from ur head ?
@@Luvarijae Yes, it does strip the hair of oils, but do you really want an accumulation of sebum(scalp fat) on your head? Let the scalp breath!
I had to shampoo my hair everyday, even in deep winter, in order to comb it when wet. I do admit that it was a hassle to wash my hair everyday! Now, I shampoo every other day and use hair oil/butter occasionally. Point is that washing everyday and not using oil,grease or butter did no visible harm to my hair.
This yellow just pops on her melanated skin 💛 Love to see it 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
i started this routine and there was a little transition period for a few weeks but now i love it. can't imagine ever using oil again (for the record i have 4c low porosity hair)
the only thing i changed is that i also use a water-based leave-in conditioner to detangle before styling
I personally started this method a couple weeks ago and its been going pretty well but I also have quite fine hair so heavy products never worked that well for me anyway. I will say that I personally still use a leave in because I also rarely use gel and I might be wrong but I believe that leave-ins aren't necessarily banned but rather they're considered cream stylers so it's moreso about understanding that they don't provide the moisture we might think they do and that they are just stylers like gel or mouse but without a hold. Also, I don't use leave-ins with oils or butters high up on the ingredients list. Anyway! Twas super interesting to see your reaction to this especially as someone who also has a super dry scalp (from scalp psoriasis) who actually avoids oiling their scalp bc I already have to wash it at least once a week lol
This method saved my hair. And if carefully studied it makes sense. Our hair doesn't need to be a battle, it can be a step in a day. I've even got my wash day down to 25 mins... it used to take 4-5 hours, sometimes a day. And my wash and go's actually last till next wash day. Hair soft every day. No dry, flaky scalp.
Shampoo, conditioner, botanical gel. Dassit! Nuffin else!
No pre poo, no finger detangling before mechanical detangling, no deep conditioning for ages, no expensive leave ins, no oils, no creams, no custards, no dodgy gels, no soufflés, no butters, no guessing, no failed styles, no tired arms, no contemplating big chops, no stress of using too much water, no dandruff.
No. Stress.
Yessss I agree I hope she tries it again with more clarity and for the full detox period. I couldn't get the botanical gels(uncle funky,camille rose,kinky curly) to give me the definition that I would like so I used design essentials honey curl custard and the doux's big poppa along with raw black African soap as shampoo to combat the dryness and irritation that I was experiencing on my scalp. A conditioner for mid week cleansing & a good deep conditioner once a week. My wash days have completely transformed & my upkeep throughout the week is so easy. I did get a continuous spray water bottle to make rehydrating easier.
Ditto!
This woman's skin is freakn amazing, and she's beautiful too. What a Goddess 👑🙏🏾🖤
It's so funny you tried this. Another youtuber mentioned they would love to see YOU do this challenge (Jenn Jackson). Lol.
Lol meeeee
@@JennJackson I was hoping you saw her video!!!! 😁. Now, if you guys can just set up the collaboration, I would dyyyyyyye! 😉.
I love your videos and I hope you can try this method again cause I have 4c hair and it has been a game changer!
1. The actual method is using no products with oils and butters in the top 5 ingredients and Melanin Leave In doesn’t, so I do continue to use it as I’ve found it helps with curl separation once I add gel.
2. The uncle funky’s daughter curly magic and Innersense products recommended are CRUCIAL. They are salon quality and concentrated so they work much better.
3. Getting my hair throughly wet, like letting the water run on it for 3-4 minutes straight before I even start my wash day helps with long term moisture retention as well. As well as throughly washing my hair 2-3 times depending on build up. That way the water can actually penetrate into the shaft.
I hope you can try again one day!
I've been doing it since January and my hair feels really good! I couldn't stand the LOC method and products like Shea Moisture made my hair feel gross. But to each their own!
Same
Shea moisture doesn't do anything for me, but a simple oil and water never hurt nobody lol.
@@tunesha1873 omg yes. I never seems to get the slip i need with their products :(
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I love the loc method! I use all creme of nature argan oil products and pure shea butter. It really fixed my hair. I have low porosity hair though, and I'm unsure of my hair type but it's definitely 4.
After my 2nd big chop I just use hair grease followed by gel and it's never felt better. As someone else said in the comments I follow my own path now and what's best for my hair. Great video StarPuppy.
I tried this method for the full 30 days, and it's a no from me. My hair was the least manageable it's ever been, my hair just needed more, and I didn't even use much to begin with.
I’m seeing that it’s meant to be a 30 challenge…but so far, this week has just been SO chaotic. Even I can’t handle the chaos 🥺
I too did the full 30 days and then abandoned ship because my hair was knotting and breaking.
@@lisaj4441 it's not for you if you live in a dry climate like I do. Shit was rough, in more ways than one.
Even in this video, your hair looks SO long and SO thick from when I started watching you like 2 years ago! I love it
I'm sorry but I live by Leave-In's😩I can't give it up that easily
I think a light leave-in is apart of the routine.
@Untainted Afro You can still use leave in (this advice depends on the stylist).
@Untainted Afro that’s fair enough, they don’t have the best history but the proof is in their portfolio. Highly recommend Jennifer rose NYC (like Danielle mentioned)
My hair stylist rewetted my hair and forgot to put moisture on it....., my mom had to cut my hair and it hasn't grown back to that length in FIVE YEARS🤨
@@anikawilson1937 sum else happened bc wtf
Omagosh! I'm also trying the no oils no butters hair detox. I kind of did it on and off and it made me realize how much of these oils and butters I didn't need and they were the culprit of all my itching (product buildup). But it made me mostly realize that the Shea butter I was using for my 4C hair is absolutely, positively not necessarily. I just needed a good shampoo, conditioner and leave in. I was an oil fiend as well lol. I was that girl with the soul glow patch on her pillow case. And btw, Black Girl Curls are the originators of this method. Fluff nugget is looking GOOODT!! 😍😍
I switched to the 3 step method and enjoy it more but oils never worked for me or my scalp which is why I was willing to try . Now I just use a really good shampoo ,conditioner and gels like aloe or flaxseed based.Crazy to think I used to do shea butter masks and hot oil treatments constantly.
A week isn’t long enough to see the results, you’ve been using oils and butters for a looong time. It takes time to detox 👍🏾. I used to have a lot of dandruff but since I stopped with the oils that problem went away 🤷🏾♀️. But everyone should do what works for you them.
@@dr-k1667 Sure, you’re absolutely right. And I also want to make a correction, I said result but in actuality I meant it will take longer than a week to reap the benefits, considering everyone’s hair is different. ppl will see different things if they choose to go forward with the process.
@Tehilavictoria No, I didn’t oil my scalp. But I assume the oils and butters I was using was getting to my scalp.
You are so talented, and you are a natural beauty. keep being you and you will go far. Such a delight to see a young talented black woman.
So for this you’re supposed to use a moisturizing botanical gel. Like uncle funky’s daughter don’t shrink
PIN!
Is the doux big poppa gel a botanical gel?
Also supposed to sit under a hooded dryer or a diffuser, which is super important for setting the hair in place, soft bonnets just don’t work. I tried it and it wasn’t working out until I bought a hooded dryer. You can not air dry your hair with this method either your hair will shrink up A LOT then you just ruined your style. Hood dryer or diffuser only
@@LifeFilmz my bonnet drier worked fine 🧐
Valerie so did mine🤪
I haven't used oil on my scalp since 2019 (if not longer), & my hair has been flourishing! Water based products; pure aloe vera gel, rice water (soak orange peels in it), tree tea, etc. I spray water on my hair & scalp mostly everyday. You can make your own fruit/vegetable based water to stay on your hair. The nutrients feed the scalp. Keep refrigerated. Very refreshing in this heat! Stay healthy!
So no one else jumps down my throat for literally no reason, this comment is directly addressing the video linked in the description.
Oh, what they're saying is what we learn in cosmetology school. Use professional grade products. They're chemically formulated to fortify the cortex and seal the cuticle without unnecessary buildup.
Typically, build up isn't properly cleansed because folks are literally using conditioner (hair lotion that chemically closes the cuticle) as a cleanser. *Fred Hammond voice* it won't work. Try cleansing your body with some Jurgen's for like a week. It's the same principle.
There are no detergents that tell the dirt "Hey! Get outta here!" while simultaneously saying "Come on in water, the hair is fine!" *and* no chemicals to gently open the cuticle...
and when I say "chemical" I mean it in the chemistry sense...not the negative, misinformed we typically say "cHeMiCaLs". Nah. remember, water and air are chemicals, period. That's why the caveat of "hazardous" is added to intense chemicals. Most are safe.
Anyway, the chemicals we use in hair chemistry all correlate to pH scale. We use bases to open the cuticle to manipulate the cortex to varying degrees, and acids to close them. Oh, yeah...stronger acids can manipulate hair strands in similar ways of strong bases.
It's not rocket science...but it *is* chemistry.
Y'all are going to take all my first semester of Salon Management and like it 😂
Girl you better than me. You know damn well us 4c people need oil and leave ins to survive. Thank goodness you only tried for a week. Great review you confirmed this does not need to be tired 👍🏾
The no oils, no butter can be for those who don’t like them. I’m with you Danielle, I am staying with what I know is working. It is good to know there are other ways to achieve results that work for our hair. Thanks for educating me with this video.
With this method I’m never clear why people do wash and go’s then bonnet the hair down. I do this method and I would say you gotta use a good clarifying shampoo when you first try this method to make sure your hair and scalp is super clear before a moisturizing shampoo and conditioner. Use regular water (rose can dry the hair) and flat twist with a foam (like the doux’s!) for a way nicer style. If I did a wash and go I’d just leave it out and sleep with a satin pillowcase. If you do all that you shouldn’t have to moisturize your hair throughout the week because it retains its softness and moisture
As someone who uses an essential oil blend to predominantly keep my scalp psoriasis symptoms under control and keep my hair healthy, this is literally a non-starter for me 🥴🥴🥴
Can you please share the blend you use for your scalp ?
As someone sebhorrheic dermatitis, I'd also like to know the blend you use.
@@lovelyme9384 Tea Tree Oil and Eucalyptus Oil are a must. They will be your active ingredients that will make all the difference. Now they can't be put directly on your skin as they are chemically potent and can be harmful. You don't need to buy diluted (as in you can get 100% pure) TTO or EO but they need to be mixed with carrier oils, which are any other essential oils that are safe to directly go on your skin. The carrier oils I use also have great benefits for my hair as well.
The main ones I use are:
Olive oil
Sweet almond oil
Vegetable Glycerin
Jojoba oil
Castor oil
Argan oil
Coconut oil
I use lavender oil and/or peppermint oil for fragrance. There are other oils that can be added such as avocado, chamomile, or grape seed. You can even melt down cocoa or Shea butters (but not too much) and add them to your blend. The specific blend is up to you.
Personally, I wet my 4c afro everyday/every other day to detangle. While it's still wet (but not soaking, damp is fine) I rub the oil all over my scalp and massage it in. I add a small amount, enough to feel a pleasant cool tingling feeling all over. It really helps with itch and flaking, and provides me with instant relief. I do still use hair products to add in much needed water-based moisture for my hair as the oil alone will leave my hair itself dry as it won't penatrate the strand. After about a week I need to wash my hair to remove excess oil/product and clean up any flakey patches if I've had a flare up. I always let my hair air dry after I style it how I want. The shampoo and conditioner you use is up to you.
Ultimately, this is just a start and personally, it took some experimentation and time to really figure out what worked for me. My scalp has become manageable and presentable and my hair is very thick, soft, and strong. It's been quite the journey but well worth it.
Side note: you can get everything I mentioned from a beauty supply store or if you wanna buy bulk/wholesale size and save money in the long run you can buy from Amazon.
Also please, do NOT ingest anything. Everything should be applied topically. The disclaimer is just for safety 😅
@@meriani777 I replied to the first request, so you can check that out if you're curious 🙂
@@diamondseraphin9794 thank you so much 💖
Thsnk you for trying this and I understand why you're not continuing this method. Your hair looks lovely but your scalp doesn't feel good and that's a problem.🤔 Like you, my scalp hasn't been itchy (or any dandruff) in years and I am hesitant to to consider this method. You keep doing what's best for your hair and scalp. 🥰
Yeah.... I tried this at the beginning of my journey and mid way.... no. Just no. My hair REVOLTED.
It was 4-5 days of 6+ hours of detangling.... NEVER AGAIN.
Oh. My. Goodness. 😨
@@TheStarPuppy I was silly. I did twists for 3 weeks no oils or butters. My hair was half way loced together.
So THATS why my twists keep locking up so quickly
@@purplegirl1152 I found doing a deep conditioner _and_ hot oil treatment before twists was always best! When putting in the twists, I warm style, water and oil warm/hot to the touch. I find I get a much more defined twist out and I use less product!
Maybe you need a trim
First time seeing her content and i just have to say how can a woman be so damn infatuating. Like it’s not even jus her looks it’s the energy. Wholesome and genuinely joyful.
You really need to be in Hollywood in movies in music on stage. We Stan
The flower in your hair for the sponsored clip was the perfect touch. When you started holding up the oils and leave-in, I was rolling. Omg it was so funny 🤣
Elasticity is an indicator of health. Malleability does lend to fragility. Plus this method does need time to adjust the hair is used to depending on manual oil so it’s oil production is waaaaay less. The scalp is reactive. Similar to the way people who wash their hair often produce more oil, people who apply oil often and wash their hair weekly or biweekly will produce less oil.
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I did this method when I lived in FL because the humidity levels are so high and when I lived in NY in the summers & Spring. But now that I live in Portland I did it out of laziness ONCE! My hair said humidity where bitch😭
Exactly....... I need to use a sulfate chelating shampoo in London where the tap water is trash. so when I see people saying something different I'm like you don't live where I live and have my exact hair type so how I'm going do what you do. lol!
I have been doing this on my hair since my big chop in November 2019, and my hair is now over down pass shoulders, just simply with coconut oil as Preshampoo and leave-in after shampoo top up with again coconut oil. Very simple, I don't use any cream and butter or any other products since beginning. Love my DIYs and my hair just grows, so healthy and I am loving my natural hair.
It's crazy how there's so much backlash against the no oils and no butters challenge, but when there was a rice water challenge, a hot oil treatment challenge, a chebe challenge, any ayruvedic hair care challenge there was no backlash. People just couldn't wait to jump on it and commit to it for the WHOLE however many days or months the challenge lasted.
Tbh I don't even see the no oils no butters thing as a challenge I see it as simplifying my hair care routine. It's also convenient in other ways like I don't have to worry about leaving greasy patches on my wall, my pillow and whatever my dorag comes into contact with, so yeah that's definitely a plus.
One main reason for the backlash is the elitist, condesending tone of the 'no butter/oils' team. (Just like the water-wash team & the no-comb team) I've had several call me stupid and a fool for using oils even though my hair is in excellent condition. Why should I change from what works for me? And why do people who don't know me or my hair assume they know better than me what works? There are no magic tricks or one size fits all for our hair. Acting like you know without a doubt what will work on all black hair is misleading. Insinuating that someone is ignorant because they won't do what you do is derogatory. Its why I don't follow the natural community much, too many natural hair facists!
@@shanchan8247 hair facist I'm so done 😂
I don't see this as backlash. She tried it and it just didn't work for her, that's all.
I definitely feel you with the scalp being itchy and hair feeling a bit dry. I was super hesitant at first and had the same results.
But after continuing the process my hair became softer and my scalp was so clean. I’m thinking I felt this way at first because my hair was going through withdrawals without my oils and greases.
But now; my hair feels incredible and it’s moisturized throughput the week. It also took my hair from a low porosity to a medium low, so it holds in moisture more easily. Either way do what’s right for you and if you decide to do it again I hope you get to see better results.
I use a butter leave in, no oils though. I'm flourishing. I also wash almost every day bc my head itches when I sweat.
U are beautiful! 😍 And funny! It's a catch 22 because I find that oils really itch my scalp but my hair is stupid dry without it.
This 3 step method is the only thing thats worked for me. Been using it since before ppl named it that. i find that most things the natural hair community suggest doesnt work at all for me.
Same. Oils and heavy butters always make my hair flaky and kills all definition instantly. I just use conditioner and gel on my wash and go. No cream or oil.
I’ve been doing this “method” forever. I haven’t seen other videos on how to or anything, but the way I do it works for my hair. Shampoo, deep conditioning/detangle. Regular conditioner as leave in, section off and add gel to sections, air dry (I live in a super dry climate so it dries in 3-5 hours) I do this every 5 to 7 days. In mornings I use the steam from the shower to moisturize, and sometimes a spray bottle with water and conditioner. It works for me. I find oils on my hair locks moisture out and my hair feels dry by day 2. I do rub oil on my scalp occasionally.
Botanical Gel - UFD, Jello Shot, KKC and lots of water is so helpful when following this form of haircare & hairstyling
Total package. Completely GORGEOUS, with a great personality to boot!🥰
I recommend Jennifer Rose to anyone watching this. But only if you’re open to change. Just saying that hate care should not be a struggle and there’s a reason so many of us deal with dry scalp and brittle hair.
Your curl definition was awesome! I have been doing research on this method and there are so many steps you did not follow to get the results the creators talk about. I believe your week results would have been so much better had you done so. Thanks for sharing!
I hope you find the black girl curl version of what you are trying to do. I've seen other 4c naturals use their See Some Curls method and they look amazing without suffering.
For me the best detox is acv rinse followed by a bentonite clay mask
I’m 3 months in and my hair feels amazing. Actually absorbs my products now.
You crying over the almond oils had me in stitches! You are hilarious!!
I saw this method first on Jen Jackson's channel and it seems to be working for her. By all means, if it works for some, it works... In my opinion - I can be wrong - it seems to work better for those with longer hair that's already developed into an "adult" afro, I think my teeeny weeeeny purely 4c "baby" afro would punish me severely if I had the audacity.
Sticking to my Afrocenchix products, LOC and all that juicy yumminess.
Interesting point! My hair is mong, (lol) but it’s definitely easier to work with than my TWA and short stages.
Hi! Can you expand on your comment a little more? What do you think it is about hair length that might alter the effectiveness of this method?
I have a short loose but very coarse very thick head of hair, and it takes some adjusting to. We’re used to feeling a very oily slippery feel to the hair and scalp and a sudden change will inevitably shock the hair and scalp. But it’s like withdrawal, it goes away. I shaved my hair clean off then did the three step method on my virgin hair and it’s great
It's not for long hair. Check out @cutitkinky which is @iamblackgirlcurls page for stylists. The other is their ordinary page. You will see that they say most naturals using oils and butters have dehydrated hair and they cut nearly everyone into either a sharp bob or taper style to start regrowing the hair out. Most of the people following this method are being made to start over if they go to a curl stylist so they do not have long hair. The stylists will then help them to grow it out. They claim lots of people's hair is short in the crown so they cut the hair in a way that the crown will grow out bettet with the back and avoid a mullet. Mostly, I think stylists like that sharp look. I've yet to see anyone with long hair on these stylists instagrams come out with long hair after the process.
@@PieceMeals you have to remember that long hair isn't a goal for everyone so that shouldn't be a marker for whether something works or not. Also stylists can only post the clients that come into the salon and give permission to be posted online. so perception may be skewed. I've seen other clients with long hair on other stylists that have trained with them or have similar phillsophies. It honestly depends on who you follow.
Your hair is beautiful! What worked for me is I tried it for 30 days and my hair changed!
"My scalp feels ashy" gurl I felt that too this method ain't for the dryed scalps