Bottom Line: op is not sorry. He doesn’t give a shit about what he did but can’t live with the guilt. He feels entitled to forgiveness. OP, leave your fucking brother alone.
see you don't understand , the room was dark and OP tripped then 4 stray dogs stole his pants and they happened to have tripped onto a trampoline and had no choice but to bounce up and down , total mistake
Exactly. He doesn't want any God damn reconciliation, he just wants to do the same crappy stunt he did to his brother, so he could compare which pussy is better. People like him tend to think with their peenies instead of their heads, hence why they're untrustworthy
If i was the betrayed brother, i wouldnt reconcile with you even if we both died and i had to roam the earth instead of moving on because reconciling with you was a condition on “moving on”.
It's greatly upsetting that someone can cheat and still marry that person and live happily ever after like they didn't just destroy lives with their crap. And "I'm sorry" doesn't fix anything.
look on the bright side, they tore apart their own family just to live in a pensive insecure marriage that may end in infidelity itself, their karma is already kind of present and can absolutely get worse, which i bet it will. the girlfriend originally cheated cuz OPs brother wasnt always around, now she worries that her husband regrets her and shes pulling away emotionally. i suspect shes already within 6 months of starting an affair with someone, especially since she even still refuses to acknowledge she ever cheated or did anything wrong even a decade later. neither of them understand accountability and that fault is starting to tear at the marriage they willfully burned bridges and ruined lives for. just give it time and i bet eventually the story will be part of a saga where OP realizes his wife started cheating or that his youngest isnt his or something.
Since they matched and built a faimily of their own, it's not as upsetting as it would if htey just had broken up right after the events. At least they did built something out of that crap.
“And me hiding behind my kids as the reason why I don’t regret what I did; but i don’t understand why my entitled attitude and gaslighting ‘aren’t working anymore”
Glad Ezra had one brother worth the oxygen he's breathing. OP, you have the gf, your kids, and the rest of the family- leave your brothers alone, they're better off away from the traitorous lot of you. And big shock that stepmom sides with and encourages the cheaters, now she finally has something in common with her stepkids!
I said it once, I'll say it again. You have to be a special kind of monster to have an affair with your family members partner, especially brothers/sisters.
story 1............... 1. OP this is all YOUR fault. stop blaming others and take responsibility for YOUR actions. 2. your mother is a failure as a parent. she chose you because of the grandkids and a decade later she now blames you because she has regrets. i see where you learned to dodge accountability for your actions. 3. you were his brother and he was supposed to be able to trust you. you betrayed him in the worst way possible and you are somehow stupid enough to believe you can fix this. you cant fix this. you lost 2 brothers because of your selfishness now move on and deal with the fall out of your actions
Mother only blames him cause there are more grandkids she doesn’t have access to VS what she does have. Yes she had guilt before but it wasn’t as serious and came way too late. If OP had more grandkids for her instead of his brother she wouldn’t have had the regrets she did when she found out. It’s all a numbers game to her 😡
2nd story: There is no excuse to cheat, but it is a reason to leave your married. But the father ended up cheating instead of leaving so yeah he still is the one that's at fault for this now of course the mother a drug addict that's hard, you don't want to deal with people like that but you leave you don't cheat.
With OPs Mom having that severe anxiety,why wasn't she seeing a doctor. Did Dad push for her to get treatment. His Mom obviously feels guilty about her condition and the way it was handled. Dad doesn't seem to feel guilty about anything. As for his skank, don't give me that crap that she cares about OP and his brother. It appears that the whole family is manipulating OP. As for OP's outburst. He has Nothing to apologize for. He doesn't owe understanding or kindness to his Dad or the skank. Those 2 would have new names from me. They would never be addressed as Lily and Dad, whether at home or in public. They would forever be called : Cheating Bastrd and Diseased Ho.
Yeah if you’re unhappy you leave but you don’t play these stupid games. Maybe moms drug use would have been a reason to divorce but it isn’t a reason to cheat
I swear I was going to comment the exact same thing but I wanted to read the comments first to see if someone mentioned it, he should have ended the marriage first and then went ahead with his life.
Story 1. You can fix it. He’s moved on without y’all. You were wrong and so were your parents. Just because you feel bad doesn’t mean you didn’t blow up his life! It’s all your fault 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️.
Yeah he doesn't feel bad the only part that seems to have affected him is the uncomfortability of his life because it keeps coming up the fact that he blew up everything because of his decision and he doesn't like that.
Story 1 classic victim mentality, in what world does he think what he did was right, glad the brother went nc with everyone who supported him and the cheater ex gf.
the OP also continued to refer to what he did as a mistake, a mistake is accidental, the OP made decisions he has to live with, at no point in any of the replies is the OP taking ownership of his actions
Quite frankly, the dad, stepmom, OP, and Mel are all terrible. Dad and stepmom got together through infidelity, Mel and OP got together through infidelity. Of course they supported each other, scum sticks to scum, just like gum on the bottom of your shoes. OP is absolutely selfish and trying everything he can to deflect blame because over time, the family erodes more and more and it's all his and Mel's actions that set everything into motion. It sounds more and more likely that the marriage won't ultimately survive. He needs to cling onto his selfishness because admitting he is the one who ruined everything will destroy 11 years for them. 11 years down the drain. OP is effectively grasping onto delusions because (to quote Walter White) "it can't all be for nothing."
All terrible except the 2 brothers I don’t really see remorse here because of the word choice such as “mistake” and “Ezra rebelled and blew up the family” there’s no real empathy here reconciling is never to be an option for this family.
@@saravananrs6563No, the mother's not good. She was crappy through the vast majority of the story and a decade later had a change of heart. She might not be as bad now, but she's not magically absolved of her sins either
“It hurt to feel that she would prefer to have held on to them and lost me and my sons in the process.” Is this guy for real? Like, I genuinely can’t comprehend being *_that_* self absorbed. Edit: “I’m not a narcissist.” _[Press X to _*_SERIOUSLY_*_ doubt.]_
It’s funny that he mentions that his estranged brothers have more children than him. It really is all ME ME ME with this guy, to the point that he prefers his brothers’ kids not know their grandmother as long as his own do.
@@AraAra6367 yeah that part struck me as strange, I thought about it for a bit and I think perhaps the OP thinks the mother reconnected because his brother has more kids, and that if his brother didn't have kids she wouldn't have reconnected
Of course dad's wife has no regrets about it. She had an affair with a married man that destroyed not only a relationship but family as well so no remorse or shame with passing the crown to other cheaters. 😂
lol ya he doesnt understand basic maths. two normal good kids and more grandkids or a pos and affair babies and a dil you dont talk to and hate which one is preferable
In fact it makes your value drop by 50% in any case. No matter how attractive that statement makes you unattractive to every self respecting women. Maybe there are decent guys who call themselves that but most men who say that are at the very bottom. There is a correlation between making that statement about yourself and being a entitled "nice" guy or entitled "alpha" or misogynistic sexist conservative man who expects being treated like a king even though he doesn't deserve it. Like men who think they deserve a "traditional" wife even though nothing about them is traditional. The wife has to cook,clean,make babies and care for them but on top of that she has to make her own money and can't be seen as a "gold digger". They often see a women as Gold digger even though the women makes more money and pays for more of their shared expenses. Like the women literally can't do anything to escape that fate of being seen as a gold digger. A women who just wants security in life is a gold digger because they care too much about money. These are all things you expect from a man who calls himself "high value male" or "high value guy". That's why you instantly get a ick hearing that and for some women (me included) it instantly kills all attraction.
Heard the first story before, but in that other version it sounds like the two managed to reconcile. I honestly prefer this version. You can't just do that to your brother and expect to be forgiven like that
They never reconciled. The next day OP put up another post under the depression forum and said he had self deletion thoughts over all of this and got further blasted by redditors.
There's been more than one story like this one, however I hadn't seen one where there was a younger brother involved who also cut off the family. There's been a crap load of stories where either a guy stole his brothers girlfriend or a woman stole her sisters boyfriend.
It's similar but different in that story. I think it was the younger brother in question. If I remember they didn't really reconcile but decided for a peaceful coexistence.
Story #1: Once you do something like what OP did, it never goes away, no matter how much people try to sweep it under the rug and act like everyone has "moved on." People tend to think bringing new children into the family is such a happy miracle that the parents should be absolved of any and all deviant behavior, but the rose tinted glasses are coming off. OP doesn't deserve anything except to be treated with less attention and less respect because he behaves with less integrity.
Story1: be happy you are still alive Story2: why should he apologise?! An affair is an affair. She and the father deserves NOTHING! I helped rehab people. If someone wants to come off, they can with help. If they dont, nothing can help them. Its not an excuse for the sprm donor to go fooling around, then they make demands. Also everyone trying to play happy fammily?! Disgusting.
OP is a cheater who thinks betrayal is no biggie; it boggles the mind that he expects anyone to side with his entitled a$$. Almost certainly fake, or a narcissist bragging
also he has his wife and stepmother sitting there denying there was any wrong doing, and he continues to use language such as referring to his betrayal as a mistake, the reason he uses the term mistake is because in a mistake there are no villains he didn't make a mistake he made decisions and choices
i think its real as ive interacted with people just like this. plus if it was bait i feel like it would be more extreme in his denial he did anything wrong to get more karma. once knew a guy who i confided in about my CSA and he got all mopey and made the conversation about how he knowingly molested his sister when he was 13 and she was 8, though somehow HE was the victim in that situation because CPS took him away for awhile. he then started fishing for support and comfort whining about all the family members who acted differently around him. its sick shit but some people are like physically incapable of acknowledging the pain they create in others and can only see the pain they feel for themselves
I think it's real. He's not actively trying to piss people off, he talks like he doesn't know how emotions work. Bro's upset because he can't understand why his two brothers didn't just pat him on the back and continue on like nothing happened. And now he's on Reddit asking for advice because he thinks there's some magical quick fix that'll instantly remove all of the trouble caused by his past actions and get everything back to the way he wants. It's a level of detached selfishness and confusion that makes him look like a sociopath who genuinely can't empathize with other people and only seeks reconciliation when there are tangible consequences for his actions.
S1: "Aaron has always had it out for me." maybe because your entire life, you were a piece of shit and you were sleeping with your brother's gf. I bet OP was a bully growing up and Aaron didn't take his crap and fought back and that's why he thinks he had it out for him. if there was any justice in this world, Ezra would have sent OP to the hospital for his crap
if you read all the replies that this OP made in the actual post it reads as him just straight up being pissed that people are blaming him and him saying he shouldnt be sorry for anything and he just wants people to let it all go and stop acknowledging that his family is to blame. like he legit knows he did terrible things but does not want to be blamed and to a greater extent not bother his happiness. "fixing things" is him just not wanting any more trouble.
This sound about right even without going to read the comment just from his post and the comments that’s were added he still didn’t want to “regret” what he did. Making excuses by bringing the kids in again. I bet he used those kids plenty against mom and dad to guilt them into things. Even though ultimately it was their fault for the nc the heavy regret they’re feeling is giving me emotional blackmail vibes.
Story 2.. "for better or worse, in sickness and in health" His wife had a sickness and was at her worst. Obviously, she was able to get clean for her kids... He used that as an excuse to cheat. If it was bad enough, he could have left and taken the kids. She wasn't a lost cause... but he chose to stay and have an affair... instead of really putting effort into saving her and his family. Dad and Lily are still scum 🤷♀️ There's no excuse for cheating
@nanadiaries9189 no 💩? But there are realities. Like... there's never an excuse to cheat. If it's bad enough to cheat... you leave first, because cheating hurts more than your partner.
lol it is not an excuse. nobody wants to be with a junkie and being an addict is way worse than being a cheater. infact i dont blame anyone cheating on a junkie. being an addict is a fking choice. refusing to get help is afking choice. getting a divorce is hard enough esp in a pandemic and you know junkies wont go easily in the night.
The second story makes me so fucking angry. His mother was struggling and instead of helping, his father fucking cheats on her and takes her kids away. And his side chick has the audacity to think she has any authority over the op and his siblings. The comment was out of line yes, but fuck her feelings. From what is described op mother could have ended up dead herself, so I have zero sympathy for the her. Also she must have known op father was married because who the fuck marries a cheater. I definitely do not agree with the op's decision to apologise let alone try to better their relationship. And before anyone trys to defend her with this, I wasn't far from death in the past myself but there is no excuse for cheating.
just a good guy I think who sees OP for the trash he is, so I go with your latter conclusion, *edit* (after reading some replies on reddit it looks like the OP was the Golden child and reveled in it so I think that explains Aarons dislike)
Story 1: me,me,me.Wa Wa Wa actions have consequences. Boo Hoo bla bla bla. Both OP and their family are the same. OP should just focus on his family with his wife and kids.
story 1 is basically "wah wah wah i tore my family apart and don't regret it but they're making me feel bad about something bad i did and they won't forgive me"
Doing so for this is only trying to escape from guilt and criticism. Suicide is an escape from pain, but a bad one, because you end up destroying yourself in the process.
Story 1 zero accountability. Ezra set fire to the family, Ezra attacked her for cheating when he just old people what they did, she accidentally got pregnant when I continued the relationship.
Ridiculous. If you have feelings growing for someone else, especially a relative of your partner, you end your relationship FIRST, then WAIT a decent time. If they'd done that, it would not have ended up like this.
would have still ended badly, she wasn't a 2 week fling, she was a significant relationship, if it were a a 2 week fling I would agree with you but it is a pretty AH thing to date your siblings significant ex
S1: Maybe unpopular but unless OP is working on his lack of empathy, he shouldn't be in therapy. OP's actions are getting blown up in his face and he just needs to deal with it and lie in the mess he caused. He can't fix anything at this point and him trying to will just make it worse. Anyway, I'm glad Aaron and Erza are living well 🙂
cant see why it would be unpopular, the OP has a complete lack of empathy, and continually used language that mitigated his culpability, there is also a little thing in the back of my head asking "why did he focus on his brother having more kids than him, that is just weird" like almost if the brother had no kids would the OP care to reconcile, or does he think the mother is only regretting her choices because the brother has more kids
@@vaseline69yeah it seems that like other commenters said using his children as an excuse for everything. His control of his family started with Mel having his child since most came around when the pregnancy was announced. However now that his brothers has kids and more than he does he probably think that’s the only reason mom and dad is regretting is for the kids. In his mind if his brothers didn’t have children even finding out they were married wouldn’t have matter since in his mind his parents would’ve still chose him since he has kids. His trump card was taken. That’s why he was soooo hurt the mom wanted to reconnect with her others sons and called it her picking them over him even though she did the exact opposite in real life. Definitely lacks empathy all the way around, he won’t even try to put himself in his brothers shoes.
therapy is fking overrated unless you have genuine issues. most problems in life is about not accepting failure and fault. for grief if you dont have friends or family talking a counselor can help.
Op1 deflects and accepts no responsibility for breaking up his family. She could’ve broken up with his brother before y’all got together if you wanted to pursue a relationship and it wouldn’t have been as bad. You broke your brothers heart, destroyed their trust, betrayed your brother, and was selfish. Your kids have nothing to do with you and your wives terrible actions. Take accountability, accept the reality you created for yourself, leave those brothers alone who want nothing to do with you, enjoy your gross wife ,life, and hope the kids are cool👌🏾
S1: Well you are a terrible brother so I’m not surprised about anything that happened after🤷🏾 S2: if anything there should have Ben a divorce cheating isn’t acceptable just leave damn but u also gotta tell ya kids important things man. S3: I sense a very big lack of masculinity here.
There is a right way and a wrong way to exit a relationship. Cheating is never the answer if you want to leave without blame, disgrace, being considered morally bankrupt, a liar, etc etc. One way you leave with your head held high, blameless. The other you leave looking like the very very very bad guy that no one should ever trust again, because you’ve proven yourself to be untrustworthy to the core. And proven to be a liar. One does so much less damage than the other way. The other one devastates your loved ones. Choose wisely.
ya cheating is never right true. on the same token you cant really cheat lie on a junkie which is a far worse thing to be. its like if a guy beats his wife i wouldnt really blame the wife if she cheated. getting a divorce esp when kids are involved is easier said than done. i would think of the dad as he could have handled the situation better but i would not give a second thought to it
Story One: I guess this is the perspective of the Golden Child. How are you going to cheat, then be upset with your brothers because they want nothing to do with you? 🤷🏻♀️
Story 1 OP is beyond pathetic. He didn't just make mistakes, he's a genuinely bad person at his core. Mel too. And they do not have a loving relationship, they're both narcissistic and incapable of such. OP wanted Mel because his brother had her, and Mel is probably just loose, and she only went to OP when everyone else rejected her. OP only seems upset when he found out Ezra has a wife, because now he can't look at Mel as the happiness he deprived his brother of, and has become unhappy himself. He would probably try to cheat with the new wife if he had the chance. Mel feeling no remorse shows exactly how lacking in morals she is.
ST1 Womp womp op, you did destroy your family. I wish OP’s bro all the best in life, he’s better off without the betrayers. Oh jeez I wonder why Aaron has always had it out for OP, I’d love to hear how that started and want to hear Aaron’s side of things.
Aaron had issues with my parents prior to my screw up. My parents went through a nasty divorce where my dad was unfaithful a few years prior. Aaron also went into debt putting himself through school while I went to school when my parents were still together. My dad originally put Ez through school until this all happened and her rejected the money. I think Aaron also believed that I was coddled a lot (even I agree here). This situation pushed him overboard. He was already disappointed in our dad (we all were) but this made him disappointed in our mom too. According to my mom he has moved on and has no desire to reconcile with her or dad. He encouraged his wife and kids to try but he said he is disinterested and busy. edit: Aaron and Ezra are also owners of a very successful business. I think Aaron is suspicious of my mom trying to reconnect during this time. She had no idea that they had a lucrative business as they have no idea that we are doing well (not nearly as well off as they are). But he is suspicious as he should be.
Story 1: OP, you are in every way possible the AH. Move on and leave your brother alone. He deserves peace after everything YOU put HIM through. As for your kids, DO NOT keep this a secret from them. You already mentioned how gossipy your family is so it is only a matter of time before they hear the full truth, whether or no your the one to tell them.
Funny how mom put it all on OP like she, TOO, didn't ad fuel to the fire of disbanding their "family" by actively choosing the sibling who did wrong and made leaps to ENABLE not PUNISH for what they did to their other son and only mad cuz she only has access to one grandchild to brag about and not all of them🙄 OP still proved to be more selfish since he at NO POINT admitted to being apologetic, just eluded to him being guilty, but regrets nothing. Least mom later tried to fix what she did and didn't force meeting her estranged sons, just the wives that allowed her visits. OP isn't even trying, just whining for sympathy he has NO entitlement to. Story 2: So the dad could pay for her therapy post divorce, but not have put her in rehab, and maybe divorced her THEN instead of cheating? On top of trying to force a "happy family" with the AP with one of the kids who outed his affair to begin with and surprised it inevitably blew up in his face, especially since neither parent told them what was going on behind the scenes (besides the affair) that the kids didnt know was causing a strain??
Step 1 in even TRYING to repair what's broken is to be honest about who broke it. Ezra was fucking blameless, but OP still tries to frame the whole thing as Ezra's doing. Until the blame is flowing the proper direction, the necessary penance and apologies cannot begin, and until those happen forgiveness is not remotely possible.
1st and 3rd stories: no sympathy. 2 buttheads who think whatever has happened to them is not just retribution because of their actions. 2nd story deciding to cheat is not a reflection on your drug using partner. And if you don’t want your child to say something heinous then make sure you are honest with them. They can’t edit their reactions unless they know the facts of everyone’s deceit.
First stop calling me is a mistake. You knew what you were doing. You knew that that was your brother’s girlfriend, but you still slept with her got her pregnant and had nerve to get married to her. Your parents were dead ass wrong. They should’ve never supported you.
OP in story 3 is annoying af. He’s one of those dudes who always has to blame someone else for his problems. I used to have friends like this but they just drag you down into their swamp of annoying BS.
Story 1 I heard this and there were updates where they’ve come to uneasy truce. But to me I’m sorry the whole family needs to look at their actions as why is it family sides with the offenders not the victim, plus the generational affairs: grandad cheated, dad cheated, so I cheated. Also of course stepmother who was a cheat with dad wouldn’t mind you marrying for ‘love’ BS as makes her feel better for tearing family apart.
S1 - Two back stabbing cheaters, are surprised their family betrayal has long term consequences for both them and their children. At this point, I doubt there is anything they can do, to repair the damage done.
#1: *LEAVE YOUR BROTHER ALONE.* _"Do you feel sorry for the pain you caused your brother?"_ "Well, I mean, you know ... I have my kids because of it." _"Not what was asked. Do you feel sorry for hurting your brother?"_ "Why are you holding me accountable? It's been 10 years already. I've made zero effort to reach out. Can't we go back to the way it was? Quit rebelling."
Story 1) he even add his older brother (Aaron) also had it out for me? Like what do you mean like he was the other brother who didn’t let you get away with sh!t . Dang no wonder your mom and dad are having such emotional issues right now. They finally figured out how much they let you get away with sh!t. 2:09 for any one to understand.
Story 1 : OP is full of sht.......and the people who are telling him "you don't have to forever get defined by your past behavior...are also full of BS....Cheating is a choice he made - Once a cheater always a cheater" although i give props for OP and his wife to stick together all this time (BUT The statement will always be TRUE for the one who got cheated on in a relationship ) and OP STILL keeps whining when the mother regrest her role in siding and tries to mends with her other son YEARS later. I hope he have nightmares and regrets cheating for the rest of his seems like going on a path to be miserable life.
Yeah, if i was the mom in story 1, i would've IMMEDIATELY disowned him. So you saw your dad cheating and thought... Yeah I'll do that, BUT WORSE. Story2: THIS IS WHY YOU DONT HIDE IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM KIDS.
Story 1. Op really just wants to keep rubbing it in his brothers face and can’t accept the fact that he has slzeri control over his brothers decisions. He only sees himself hurting and feels entitled to his brothers.
Story 2: and that's why it's important to disclose the full story to your kids instead of lying about things to protect one party. Story 3: I hate this guy.
Story 1: Lmao, supporting a sibling's cheater & getting hitched with them isn't a "mistake" OP, it's a conscious choice. One that squarely makes YTA, alongside Melanie.
" Aaron has always had it out for me. " Translate " Woe is me!!!! Why would he tell Ez and keep his mouth shut like our awful parents. " Like no dude Aaron was just being an awesome older/younger brother and saving Ez from his disgusting as family and 304 GF who did him dirty for no reason at all given otherthan selfishness. ETA Just finished the story and OP is a complete moron and AH. You didn't make a mistake and you know what you were doing and need to stop with the "I'm the victim"
First story - OP's situation can't be fixed. He was the trusted brother who seduced his younger brother's teenage girlfriend with his own place, career and grown man money. He fast tracked her into the relationship stage that she and Ez were going to college to achieve. He blames everyone but himself. The stepmom said that they should be together, the dad kept inviting Mel over, she was always around because she was the same age as the stepsister, Ez was away at college and Mel stopped denying it when the stepmom kept saying that they should be together. He bears no responsibility for his actions as an older more experienced young man. The mom is upset because she lost two sons when OP hit her with the grandbaby card. It must be in the cheater's playbook because there's always a sudden pregnancy that shifts the parents to the cheater's side. Aaron and Ez hit her with the we have babies, wives and lives card, then she realized what she had done. Aaron is definitely an all star brother. Give up on reconciliation. The brothers know OP's true character (especially Aaron) and don't want him around their wives and children. He has nothing that will enhance their lives and they don't need his drama, toxicity and chaos.
8:5411:08 Action has consequences. You cant be selective abt blames either.. if you dig a hole, someone falls, get injured then you would be blamed for it too.
Story 2: OP's mother is WRONG. Plain and simple. OP choosing to apologise to Lily was the mature thing to do, as his comment was out of line, but Lily and OP's Dad were the cause, not OP's Mom's drug addition. 'In sickness and in health,' OP's Dad failed as a husband for not helping his wife through her addiction, failed her by sticking his dick in another woman when the marriage got tough and then completed his failure by only supporting her with therapy after he made sure he'd taken her children and stability from her. She made a mistake, but the affair wasn't a justifiable response.
Story 1: As the oldest of my brothers, I'm disgusted with what OP did. I like to teach him a lesson on how you don't fuck your brother's gf. Him, Melanie, Step mom, and nearly everyone in the family are despicable. I would never be like OP's parents and just be ok/allow the relationship to continue. I would have disown him and kicked him out of the house along with Melanie and the step mom. He deserves shit. Aaron is the only real brother that Erza has. The mom should thought more about her actions as she still could have her 2 sons. And the Dad too as he doesn't get to see his sons and their families. Story 2: OP has every right to be mad at his Dad and his Step Mom for what they did. The Dad could have divorced the mom instead of cheating. There's no excuse for that. The mom still did fuck up badly. I don't understand why she would do drugs to deal with her anxiety. It's like adding gunpowder to a landmine, it only makes things worse. The Dad should have nipped that in the butt when he found out. If he did, he would still be married to her. I just hope that OP learns from both of his parents' mistakes as they did fucked up big time. I would never have contact with my parents after learning all of that. And for the love of God people, STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM DRUGS!!! I lost my own brother to a od, believe me they don't help you at all, only make you more miserable.
This person doesn't care what he did. "She was abused by Ez for cheating." No, she was treated like a cheater who doesn't get to expect kindness from someone they betrayed. This kid sucks.
"Look at it from my point of view" Dude, that's the only thinking you're capable of. This guy literally said "How would it help looking at if from anyone else's POV?" I don't know SEEING HOW YOUR ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE, YOU ABSOLUTE KNOB!
Story 1, you are in the wrong period. I don't hear any accountability at all in your words. You keep using your children as an excuse. Grow up and accept responsibility for your actions. You should leave your brothers alone. It was ok when your mom hose you over your brothers but now that she wants a relationship with it's not ok with you. How selfish can you be.
Story 1: The OP should regret his life choices. He should regret the fact he made the choice that hurt his brother and tore the family apart. This is different than regretting his children. It is possible to not regret his children, while regretting the circumstances that lead up to it Story 2: That comment about telling the step-mum to essentially kill herself was very far over the line. Could have made a comment about how living with mum would have been the more preferable option, which would have hurt her but not gone so far over that sacred line like telling her to cut herself and succeed in suicide
S1 : leave your brothers alone . Karma can hits hard i hope your kids will not do the same mistake as you , so focus on raising your kids the right way . Why i think that the stepmother want to break the brothers relationship! .
Why would op think his brother want anything to do with a family who would betrayal them op and his family have to deal with the consequences of their actions story1
Bottom Line: op is not sorry. He doesn’t give a shit about what he did but can’t live with the guilt. He feels entitled to forgiveness.
OP, leave your fucking brother alone.
Preach!
OP's stupid actions forced the situation on his brothers and family. Now he wants to force something on them again.
He literally says "I don't regret"
But even if he did, he regrets getting caught.
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 he makes up some bs that if he regretted his actions that would mean somehow "rejecting" his children!!
@@vaseline69 yeah i saw that. I should've updated my comment.
Story 1: 'Grandpa cheated, dad cheated, I made a "mistake".' YIKES
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see you don't understand , the room was dark and OP tripped then 4 stray dogs stole his pants and they happened to have tripped onto a trampoline and had no choice but to bounce up and down , total mistake
@@vaseline69 man that got me laughing
@@vaseline69 thanks for the image mate 😂
@@vaseline69 😂😂😂 crazy. Life is full of surprises right ??😂
S1: Nah, Aaron didn't have it out for you. He could smell your bullshit from miles away. You are not the victim here.
Exactly. He doesn't want any God damn reconciliation, he just wants to do the same crappy stunt he did to his brother, so he could compare which pussy is better. People like him tend to think with their peenies instead of their heads, hence why they're untrustworthy
Aaron is the best brother ever.
Fr. Imagine him being upset when he finds out his kids are not his either
@@gostavoadolfos2023,Yep he grabbed his piece of the family that op blew up and escaped. He did what he had to do to keep some of it.
actually there might be a solution for S1...come to Canada as they legalize assisted deletion
If i was the betrayed brother, i wouldnt reconcile with you even if we both died and i had to roam the earth instead of moving on because reconciling with you was a condition on “moving on”.
It's greatly upsetting that someone can cheat and still marry that person and live happily ever after like they didn't just destroy lives with their crap. And "I'm sorry" doesn't fix anything.
look on the bright side, they tore apart their own family just to live in a pensive insecure marriage that may end in infidelity itself, their karma is already kind of present and can absolutely get worse, which i bet it will. the girlfriend originally cheated cuz OPs brother wasnt always around, now she worries that her husband regrets her and shes pulling away emotionally. i suspect shes already within 6 months of starting an affair with someone, especially since she even still refuses to acknowledge she ever cheated or did anything wrong even a decade later. neither of them understand accountability and that fault is starting to tear at the marriage they willfully burned bridges and ruined lives for. just give it time and i bet eventually the story will be part of a saga where OP realizes his wife started cheating or that his youngest isnt his or something.
Since they matched and built a faimily of their own, it's not as upsetting as it would if htey just had broken up right after the events. At least they did built something out of that crap.
“he set the whole family on fire even though i cheated with my brothers girlfriend and then got her pregnant then got married to her”
“And me hiding behind my kids as the reason why I don’t regret what I did; but i don’t understand why my entitled attitude and gaslighting ‘aren’t working anymore”
Glad Ezra had one brother worth the oxygen he's breathing. OP, you have the gf, your kids, and the rest of the family- leave your brothers alone, they're better off away from the traitorous lot of you.
And big shock that stepmom sides with and encourages the cheaters, now she finally has something in common with her stepkids!
I said it once, I'll say it again. You have to be a special kind of monster to have an affair with your family members partner, especially brothers/sisters.
story 1...............
1. OP this is all YOUR fault. stop blaming others and take responsibility for YOUR actions.
2. your mother is a failure as a parent. she chose you because of the grandkids and a decade later she now blames you because she has regrets. i see where you learned to dodge accountability for your actions.
3. you were his brother and he was supposed to be able to trust you. you betrayed him in the worst way possible and you are somehow stupid enough to believe you can fix this. you cant fix this. you lost 2 brothers because of your selfishness now move on and deal with the fall out of your actions
Mother only blames him cause there are more grandkids she doesn’t have access to VS what she does have. Yes she had guilt before but it wasn’t as serious and came way too late. If OP had more grandkids for her instead of his brother she wouldn’t have had the regrets she did when she found out. It’s all a numbers game to her 😡
2nd story: There is no excuse to cheat, but it is a reason to leave your married.
But the father ended up cheating instead of leaving so yeah he still is the one that's at fault for this now of course the mother a drug addict that's hard, you don't want to deal with people like that but you leave you don't cheat.
exactly, the drug use is a reason why the relationship may end, not a free pass to cheat
With OPs Mom having that severe anxiety,why wasn't she seeing a doctor. Did Dad push for her to get treatment. His Mom obviously feels guilty about her condition and the way it was handled. Dad doesn't seem to feel guilty about anything. As for his skank, don't give me that crap that she cares about OP and his brother. It appears that the whole family is manipulating OP. As for OP's outburst. He has Nothing to apologize for. He doesn't owe understanding or kindness to his Dad or the skank.
Those 2 would have new names from me. They would never be addressed as Lily and Dad, whether at home or in public. They would forever be called : Cheating Bastrd and Diseased Ho.
Yeah if you’re unhappy you leave but you don’t play these stupid games. Maybe moms drug use would have been a reason to divorce but it isn’t a reason to cheat
Exactly
I swear I was going to comment the exact same thing but I wanted to read the comments first to see if someone mentioned it, he should have ended the marriage first and then went ahead with his life.
Story 1. You can fix it. He’s moved on without y’all. You were wrong and so were your parents. Just because you feel bad doesn’t mean you didn’t blow up his life! It’s all your fault 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️.
look at his language, he doesn't feel bad,
He doesn’t actually feel bad though🤷♂️🤷♂️
Yeah he doesn't feel bad the only part that seems to have affected him is the uncomfortability of his life because it keeps coming up the fact that he blew up everything because of his decision and he doesn't like that.
Story 1 classic victim mentality, in what world does he think what he did was right, glad the brother went nc with everyone who supported him and the cheater ex gf.
the OP also continued to refer to what he did as a mistake, a mistake is accidental, the OP made decisions he has to live with, at no point in any of the replies is the OP taking ownership of his actions
Quite frankly, the dad, stepmom, OP, and Mel are all terrible. Dad and stepmom got together through infidelity, Mel and OP got together through infidelity. Of course they supported each other, scum sticks to scum, just like gum on the bottom of your shoes. OP is absolutely selfish and trying everything he can to deflect blame because over time, the family erodes more and more and it's all his and Mel's actions that set everything into motion. It sounds more and more likely that the marriage won't ultimately survive. He needs to cling onto his selfishness because admitting he is the one who ruined everything will destroy 11 years for them. 11 years down the drain. OP is effectively grasping onto delusions because (to quote Walter White) "it can't all be for nothing."
fr. his dad and grandparents are cheaters but no, he just made a mistake that resulted in him having a baby and getting married with his brothers ex
All terrible except the 2 brothers I don’t really see remorse here because of the word choice such as “mistake” and “Ezra rebelled and blew up the family” there’s no real empathy here reconciling is never to be an option for this family.
Yep, he blames his brother for destroying thr family. Op did that all by himself.
OP1 and his parents are terrible people. His wife also sucks.
Mother is good ......step mom is cruel one cheater support cheater
@@saravananrs6563No, the mother's not good. She was crappy through the vast majority of the story and a decade later had a change of heart. She might not be as bad now, but she's not magically absolved of her sins either
story 1 wow just wow, "after Melanie was mistreated by Ez for cheating" really trying hard there to white Knight yourself bro
“It hurt to feel that she would prefer to have held on to them and lost me and my sons in the process.”
Is this guy for real? Like, I genuinely can’t comprehend being *_that_* self absorbed.
Edit: “I’m not a narcissist.”
_[Press X to _*_SERIOUSLY_*_ doubt.]_
It’s funny that he mentions that his estranged brothers have more children than him. It really is all ME ME ME with this guy, to the point that he prefers his brothers’ kids not know their grandmother as long as his own do.
@@AraAra6367 yeah that part struck me as strange, I thought about it for a bit and I think perhaps the OP thinks the mother reconnected because his brother has more kids, and that if his brother didn't have kids she wouldn't have reconnected
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@@vaseline69Knowing some parents that may just be the reason that she reached out.
Of course dad's wife has no regrets about it. She had an affair with a married man that destroyed not only a relationship but family as well so no remorse or shame with passing the crown to other cheaters. 😂
Story 1: the mental gymnastics he's trying to pull is out of this world.
I'm not giving up two sons for this screw up.
I wouldnt give up a half eaten stale bagel for him
lol ya he doesnt understand basic maths. two normal good kids and more grandkids or a pos and affair babies and a dil you dont talk to and hate which one is preferable
S3: Calling yourself a "high-value man" does not make you one.
"Yeah, I'm a high value man"
*is a giant simp and a loser*
In fact it makes your value drop by 50% in any case. No matter how attractive that statement makes you unattractive to every self respecting women. Maybe there are decent guys who call themselves that but most men who say that are at the very bottom. There is a correlation between making that statement about yourself and being a entitled "nice" guy or entitled "alpha" or misogynistic sexist conservative man who expects being treated like a king even though he doesn't deserve it. Like men who think they deserve a "traditional" wife even though nothing about them is traditional. The wife has to cook,clean,make babies and care for them but on top of that she has to make her own money and can't be seen as a "gold digger". They often see a women as Gold digger even though the women makes more money and pays for more of their shared expenses. Like the women literally can't do anything to escape that fate of being seen as a gold digger. A women who just wants security in life is a gold digger because they care too much about money. These are all things you expect from a man who calls himself "high value male" or "high value guy". That's why you instantly get a ick hearing that and for some women (me included) it instantly kills all attraction.
Reminds me of a game of thrones quote “a man who calls himself a king isn’t a king”
@@anymous8407 Any man who must say, "I am the King", is no true king
Categorizing your fellow human beings as “high value” or “low value” is a very low value move.
Heard the first story before, but in that other version it sounds like the two managed to reconcile. I honestly prefer this version. You can't just do that to your brother and expect to be forgiven like that
They never reconciled. The next day OP put up another post under the depression forum and said he had self deletion thoughts over all of this and got further blasted by redditors.
Good. OP and his wife are walking turds
There's been more than one story like this one, however I hadn't seen one where there was a younger brother involved who also cut off the family. There's been a crap load of stories where either a guy stole his brothers girlfriend or a woman stole her sisters boyfriend.
It's similar but different in that story. I think it was the younger brother in question. If I remember they didn't really reconcile but decided for a peaceful coexistence.
I ask these kinds of people the same question every time.
"What the hell did you THINK was gonna happen?"
Story #1: Once you do something like what OP did, it never goes away, no matter how much people try to sweep it under the rug and act like everyone has "moved on."
People tend to think bringing new children into the family is such a happy miracle that the parents should be absolved of any and all deviant behavior, but the rose tinted glasses are coming off. OP doesn't deserve anything except to be treated with less attention and less respect because he behaves with less integrity.
Story1: be happy you are still alive
Story2: why should he apologise?! An affair is an affair. She and the father deserves NOTHING! I helped rehab people. If someone wants to come off, they can with help. If they dont, nothing can help them. Its not an excuse for the sprm donor to go fooling around, then they make demands. Also everyone trying to play happy fammily?! Disgusting.
Story 2: exactly
OP is a cheater who thinks betrayal is no biggie; it boggles the mind that he expects anyone to side with his entitled a$$.
Almost certainly fake, or a narcissist bragging
also he has his wife and stepmother sitting there denying there was any wrong doing, and he continues to use language such as referring to his betrayal as a mistake, the reason he uses the term mistake is because in a mistake there are no villains he didn't make a mistake he made decisions and choices
Hope it's fake. It's sad
i think its real as ive interacted with people just like this. plus if it was bait i feel like it would be more extreme in his denial he did anything wrong to get more karma. once knew a guy who i confided in about my CSA and he got all mopey and made the conversation about how he knowingly molested his sister when he was 13 and she was 8, though somehow HE was the victim in that situation because CPS took him away for awhile. he then started fishing for support and comfort whining about all the family members who acted differently around him. its sick shit but some people are like physically incapable of acknowledging the pain they create in others and can only see the pain they feel for themselves
I think it's real. He's not actively trying to piss people off, he talks like he doesn't know how emotions work.
Bro's upset because he can't understand why his two brothers didn't just pat him on the back and continue on like nothing happened. And now he's on Reddit asking for advice because he thinks there's some magical quick fix that'll instantly remove all of the trouble caused by his past actions and get everything back to the way he wants.
It's a level of detached selfishness and confusion that makes him look like a sociopath who genuinely can't empathize with other people and only seeks reconciliation when there are tangible consequences for his actions.
S1: "Aaron has always had it out for me." maybe because your entire life, you were a piece of shit and you were sleeping with your brother's gf. I bet OP was a bully growing up and Aaron didn't take his crap and fought back and that's why he thinks he had it out for him. if there was any justice in this world, Ezra would have sent OP to the hospital for his crap
some of the replies on reddit gave me OP was the golden child vibe
A monster and a harlot got together, what a match couple made in the depths of hell.
First story OP is so delusional, get a time machine if you want to fix things, if you can't then stop
if you read all the replies that this OP made in the actual post it reads as him just straight up being pissed that people are blaming him and him saying he shouldnt be sorry for anything and he just wants people to let it all go and stop acknowledging that his family is to blame. like he legit knows he did terrible things but does not want to be blamed and to a greater extent not bother his happiness. "fixing things" is him just not wanting any more trouble.
yeah i just read his replies, I actually now have less respect for him and I was in negative numbers to start
This sound about right even without going to read the comment just from his post and the comments that’s were added he still didn’t want to “regret” what he did. Making excuses by bringing the kids in again. I bet he used those kids plenty against mom and dad to guilt them into things. Even though ultimately it was their fault for the nc the heavy regret they’re feeling is giving me emotional blackmail vibes.
@@chinaking918 I think the only thing he regrets is that he is no longer the golden child
Story 2.. "for better or worse, in sickness and in health"
His wife had a sickness and was at her worst. Obviously, she was able to get clean for her kids... He used that as an excuse to cheat.
If it was bad enough, he could have left and taken the kids. She wasn't a lost cause... but he chose to stay and have an affair... instead of really putting effort into saving her and his family.
Dad and Lily are still scum 🤷♀️
There's no excuse for cheating
He did try and help her though. He did. He should have left. However, him cheating is inexcusable
Yep. He should have left instead of deciding to cheat
Life isn’t that black or white
@nanadiaries9189 no 💩? But there are realities. Like... there's never an excuse to cheat. If it's bad enough to cheat... you leave first, because cheating hurts more than your partner.
lol it is not an excuse. nobody wants to be with a junkie and being an addict is way worse than being a cheater. infact i dont blame anyone cheating on a junkie. being an addict is a fking choice. refusing to get help is afking choice. getting a divorce is hard enough esp in a pandemic and you know junkies wont go easily in the night.
Really????
Ezra set the family on fire.
Aaron has always had it out for me.
Ezra mistreated Melanie for cheating.
Your brothers rebelled.
Really?!!!
Eugene, play the world smallest violin for OP1, he needs it... A LOT
But you don't understand his brother rebelled and broke up the family *sarcasm*
"My grandpa cheated... My dad cheated.... I did something similar..."
Bruh, you put the cherry on top of the sundae.
For real. That's where all the bad genes went. Not that it wasn't his choice
He said "I did something similar" rather than "I did the same thing". The nerve 😂
Family of cheating scumbags as for the dad's affair wife not surprising she sided with the cheaters birds of a feather.
The second story makes me so fucking angry. His mother was struggling and instead of helping, his father fucking cheats on her and takes her kids away. And his side chick has the audacity to think she has any authority over the op and his siblings. The comment was out of line yes, but fuck her feelings. From what is described op mother could have ended up dead herself, so I have zero sympathy for the her. Also she must have known op father was married because who the fuck marries a cheater. I definitely do not agree with the op's decision to apologise let alone try to better their relationship. And before anyone trys to defend her with this, I wasn't far from death in the past myself but there is no excuse for cheating.
The dad did try to help but yeah he cheated. Horrible guy and AP. The comment wasn't out of line, she pushed OP. I've been angry before.
It's OP's decision to apologize. OP can leave when they become self sufficient
I wonder why Aaron has a "thing" for OP. Maybe he made a move on his gf too? Or he has always been an insufferable AH.
just a good guy I think who sees OP for the trash he is, so I go with your latter conclusion,
*edit* (after reading some replies on reddit it looks like the OP was the Golden child and reveled in it so I think that explains Aarons dislike)
Story 1:TLDR: instant family! Just steal my brother's gf! op is an entitled man child that expects forgiveness! Wow. Do better.
3rd story: calling yourself "high value guy" already drops your value down into the abyss
Story 1: me,me,me.Wa Wa Wa actions have consequences. Boo Hoo bla bla bla. Both OP and their family are the same. OP should just focus on his family with his wife and kids.
story 1 is basically "wah wah wah i tore my family apart and don't regret it but they're making me feel bad about something bad i did and they won't forgive me"
Story 1: self deleting his own life is the only way to mend things
Doing so for this is only trying to escape from guilt and criticism. Suicide is an escape from pain, but a bad one, because you end up destroying yourself in the process.
Story 1 zero accountability. Ezra set fire to the family, Ezra attacked her for cheating when he just old people what they did, she accidentally got pregnant when I continued the relationship.
s1- A lot of this could have been avoided if Mel broke up with Ezra when she decided she wanted to be with OP BEFORE the cheating
I would say some, still a pretty AH move to get with your siblings significant ex
@@vaseline69 Yeah, I agree. But it's better to break up, wait a couple months and then start dating. It's still an AH move, but less than cheating
@@jorijoestar4998does it even matter. It's still messed up, they planned this
3rd story: One of the biggest simps in reddit history😂
Story 3: JESUS, OP is SO pathetic it's comical...
Ridiculous. If you have feelings growing for someone else, especially a relative of your partner, you end your relationship FIRST, then WAIT a decent time. If they'd done that, it would not have ended up like this.
would have still ended badly, she wasn't a 2 week fling, she was a significant relationship, if it were a a 2 week fling I would agree with you but it is a pretty AH thing to date your siblings significant ex
S1: Maybe unpopular but unless OP is working on his lack of empathy, he shouldn't be in therapy. OP's actions are getting blown up in his face and he just needs to deal with it and lie in the mess he caused. He can't fix anything at this point and him trying to will just make it worse.
Anyway, I'm glad Aaron and Erza are living well 🙂
cant see why it would be unpopular, the OP has a complete lack of empathy, and continually used language that mitigated his culpability, there is also a little thing in the back of my head asking "why did he focus on his brother having more kids than him, that is just weird" like almost if the brother had no kids would the OP care to reconcile, or does he think the mother is only regretting her choices because the brother has more kids
@@vaseline69yeah it seems that like other commenters said using his children as an excuse for everything. His control of his family started with Mel having his child since most came around when the pregnancy was announced. However now that his brothers has kids and more than he does he probably think that’s the only reason mom and dad is regretting is for the kids. In his mind if his brothers didn’t have children even finding out they were married wouldn’t have matter since in his mind his parents would’ve still chose him since he has kids. His trump card was taken. That’s why he was soooo hurt the mom wanted to reconnect with her others sons and called it her picking them over him even though she did the exact opposite in real life. Definitely lacks empathy all the way around, he won’t even try to put himself in his brothers shoes.
therapy is fking overrated unless you have genuine issues. most problems in life is about not accepting failure and fault. for grief if you dont have friends or family talking a counselor can help.
He needs a damn psychiatrist
Story 1 OP has zero self awareness of what a jerk he is
Op1 deflects and accepts no responsibility for breaking up his family. She could’ve broken up with his brother before y’all got together if you wanted to pursue a relationship and it wouldn’t have been as bad. You broke your brothers heart, destroyed their trust, betrayed your brother, and was selfish. Your kids have nothing to do with you and your wives terrible actions. Take accountability, accept the reality you created for yourself, leave those brothers alone who want nothing to do with you, enjoy your gross wife ,life, and hope the kids are cool👌🏾
Story 2 op isn't the AH the affair partner is! And op's dad is a massive AH!
Story 1- Op needs to just cut the word "mistake" out of his vocabulary. He made no mistakes. He made CHOICES every time along the way.
S1: Well you are a terrible brother so I’m not surprised about anything that happened after🤷🏾
S2: if anything there should have Ben a divorce cheating isn’t acceptable just leave damn but u also gotta tell ya kids important things man.
S3: I sense a very big lack of masculinity here.
There is a right way and a wrong way to exit a relationship. Cheating is never the answer if you want to leave without blame, disgrace, being considered morally bankrupt, a liar, etc etc. One way you leave with your head held high, blameless. The other you leave looking like the very very very bad guy that no one should ever trust again, because you’ve proven yourself to be untrustworthy to the core. And proven to be a liar. One does so much less damage than the other way. The other one devastates your loved ones. Choose wisely.
ya cheating is never right true. on the same token you cant really cheat lie on a junkie which is a far worse thing to be. its like if a guy beats his wife i wouldnt really blame the wife if she cheated. getting a divorce esp when kids are involved is easier said than done. i would think of the dad as he could have handled the situation better but i would not give a second thought to it
Story One: I guess this is the perspective of the Golden Child. How are you going to cheat, then be upset with your brothers because they want nothing to do with you? 🤷🏻♀️
Story 3 OP, i just can’t
Why no body comment in his reddit "You know it's wrong, but it doesn't stop you to took her in, have relationship, and got her pregnant afterward"
Story 3 anytime a guy says he's high value he's actually 🗑
any time a guy use that term I think "well you have been down some internet rabbit holes haven't you"
@@vaseline69 they went to the 💩 bottom of that rabbit hole lol
Story 1 OP is beyond pathetic. He didn't just make mistakes, he's a genuinely bad person at his core. Mel too. And they do not have a loving relationship, they're both narcissistic and incapable of such. OP wanted Mel because his brother had her, and Mel is probably just loose, and she only went to OP when everyone else rejected her. OP only seems upset when he found out Ezra has a wife, because now he can't look at Mel as the happiness he deprived his brother of, and has become unhappy himself. He would probably try to cheat with the new wife if he had the chance. Mel feeling no remorse shows exactly how lacking in morals she is.
ST1
Womp womp op, you did destroy your family.
I wish OP’s bro all the best in life, he’s better off without the betrayers.
Oh jeez I wonder why Aaron has always had it out for OP, I’d love to hear how that started and want to hear Aaron’s side of things.
Here's the reason why Aaron always had it out for op
Aaron had issues with my parents prior to my screw up. My parents went through a nasty divorce where my dad was unfaithful a few years prior. Aaron also went into debt putting himself through school while I went to school when my parents were still together. My dad originally put Ez through school until this all happened and her rejected the money.
I think Aaron also believed that I was coddled a lot (even I agree here). This situation pushed him overboard. He was already disappointed in our dad (we all were) but this made him disappointed in our mom too. According to my mom he has moved on and has no desire to reconcile with her or dad. He encouraged his wife and kids to try but he said he is disinterested and busy.
edit: Aaron and Ezra are also owners of a very successful business. I think Aaron is suspicious of my mom trying to reconnect during this time. She had no idea that they had a lucrative business as they have no idea that we are doing well (not nearly as well off as they are). But he is suspicious as he should be.
@@sulaimanbalogun9956 Oh this is giving me the OP was the golden child vibes
@vaseline69 same hence why OP was allowed to get away with a lot of BS, and he never suffered any real consequences.
@@sulaimanbalogun9956 I just read the OPs comments on reddit, and I now have less respect for him!!!!!!!
Story 1: OP, you are in every way possible the AH. Move on and leave your brother alone. He deserves peace after everything YOU put HIM through. As for your kids, DO NOT keep this a secret from them. You already mentioned how gossipy your family is so it is only a matter of time before they hear the full truth, whether or no your the one to tell them.
Funny how mom put it all on OP like she, TOO, didn't ad fuel to the fire of disbanding their "family" by actively choosing the sibling who did wrong and made leaps to ENABLE not PUNISH for what they did to their other son and only mad cuz she only has access to one grandchild to brag about and not all of them🙄
OP still proved to be more selfish since he at NO POINT admitted to being apologetic, just eluded to him being guilty, but regrets nothing. Least mom later tried to fix what she did and didn't force meeting her estranged sons, just the wives that allowed her visits. OP isn't even trying, just whining for sympathy he has NO entitlement to.
Story 2: So the dad could pay for her therapy post divorce, but not have put her in rehab, and maybe divorced her THEN instead of cheating? On top of trying to force a "happy family" with the AP with one of the kids who outed his affair to begin with and surprised it inevitably blew up in his face, especially since neither parent told them what was going on behind the scenes (besides the affair) that the kids didnt know was causing a strain??
OP: I’m not a narcissist.
Yeah. You are.
S1 - You can't just repair that something broke. Sometimes you have to buy a new one. And seems like your brothers already did that.
yup this is Humpty Dumpty levels of broken
Step 1 in even TRYING to repair what's broken is to be honest about who broke it. Ezra was fucking blameless, but OP still tries to frame the whole thing as Ezra's doing. Until the blame is flowing the proper direction, the necessary penance and apologies cannot begin, and until those happen forgiveness is not remotely possible.
1st and 3rd stories: no sympathy. 2 buttheads who think whatever has happened to them is not just retribution because of their actions. 2nd story deciding to cheat is not a reflection on your drug using partner. And if you don’t want your child to say something heinous then make sure you are honest with them. They can’t edit their reactions unless they know the facts of everyone’s deceit.
Of course the mistress is a fan of another mistress 😑
First step: Stop saying you “made a mistake.” You and Mel made a Choice to Cheat. It’s always a CHOICE! Own it.
First stop calling me is a mistake. You knew what you were doing. You knew that that was your brother’s girlfriend, but you still slept with her got her pregnant and had nerve to get married to her. Your parents were dead ass wrong. They should’ve never supported you.
Can’t stand cheaters, and it is especially horrible when it happens within the family. I hope the brothers stay away.
OP in story 3 is annoying af. He’s one of those dudes who always has to blame someone else for his problems. I used to have friends like this but they just drag you down into their swamp of annoying BS.
He literally said “I view my self as a high value man” someone needs to tell him 💀
Story 1 I heard this and there were updates where they’ve come to uneasy truce. But to me I’m sorry the whole family needs to look at their actions as why is it family sides with the offenders not the victim, plus the generational affairs: grandad cheated, dad cheated, so I cheated. Also of course stepmother who was a cheat with dad wouldn’t mind you marrying for ‘love’ BS as makes her feel better for tearing family apart.
S1 - Two back stabbing cheaters, are surprised their family betrayal has long term consequences for both them and their children. At this point, I doubt there is anything they can do, to repair the damage done.
S1 is unbearable to watch.
S2 dad is an ah.
Cheating is still wrong tho from the dad.
#1: *LEAVE YOUR BROTHER ALONE.*
_"Do you feel sorry for the pain you caused your brother?"_
"Well, I mean, you know ... I have my kids because of it."
_"Not what was asked. Do you feel sorry for hurting your brother?"_
"Why are you holding me accountable? It's been 10 years already. I've made zero effort to reach out. Can't we go back to the way it was? Quit rebelling."
First story. The dudes a narcissist.
Story 1) he even add his older brother (Aaron) also had it out for me? Like what do you mean like he was the other brother who didn’t let you get away with sh!t . Dang no wonder your mom and dad are having such emotional issues right now. They finally figured out how much they let you get away with sh!t. 2:09 for any one to understand.
Story 1 : OP is full of sht.......and the people who are telling him "you don't have to forever get defined by your past behavior...are also full of BS....Cheating is a choice he made - Once a cheater always a cheater" although i give props for OP and his wife to stick together all this time (BUT The statement will always be TRUE for the one who got cheated on in a relationship ) and OP STILL keeps whining when the mother regrest her role in siding and tries to mends with her other son YEARS later. I hope he have nightmares and regrets cheating for the rest of his seems like going on a path to be miserable life.
Once a cheater always a cheater. OP will find this out soon.
Yeah, if i was the mom in story 1, i would've IMMEDIATELY disowned him. So you saw your dad cheating and thought... Yeah I'll do that, BUT WORSE.
Story2: THIS IS WHY YOU DONT HIDE IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM KIDS.
Story 1: you all made your bed now you have to lay in it😂😂.. what about consequences of actions😮😂
Story 1. Op really just wants to keep rubbing it in his brothers face and can’t accept the fact that he has slzeri control over his brothers decisions. He only sees himself hurting and feels entitled to his brothers.
Play stupid games, get stupip prizes, prizes that are shared around those whom you love.
Story 1: this OP is beyond help. He deserves the worst of karma
Story 2: and that's why it's important to disclose the full story to your kids instead of lying about things to protect one party.
Story 3: I hate this guy.
Story 1: Lmao, supporting a sibling's cheater & getting hitched with them isn't a "mistake" OP, it's a conscious choice. One that squarely makes YTA, alongside Melanie.
Imagine being cursed with a brother like this.
2nd story: I think OP was right to apologize to his stepmother but if he doesn’t want to spend time and bond with her he has all the right not to.
Cheating is not a mistake its a choice
story has played a huge victim card
" Aaron has always had it out for me. " Translate " Woe is me!!!! Why would he tell Ez and keep his mouth shut like our awful parents. "
Like no dude Aaron was just being an awesome older/younger brother and saving Ez from his disgusting as family and 304 GF who did him dirty for no reason at all given otherthan selfishness.
ETA Just finished the story and OP is a complete moron and AH. You didn't make a mistake and you know what you were doing and need to stop with the "I'm the victim"
Wow story one op unhinged he blames everyone but himself even the commenters 😂
He’s going to come home one day and find his wife cheating on him probably with another family member 😂
if you actually read the replies on reddit this video didn't even show the half of it
First story - OP's situation can't be fixed. He was the trusted brother who seduced his younger brother's teenage girlfriend with his own place, career and grown man money. He fast tracked her into the relationship stage that she and Ez were going to college to achieve.
He blames everyone but himself. The stepmom said that they should be together, the dad kept inviting Mel over, she was always around because she was the same age as the stepsister, Ez was away at college and Mel stopped denying it when the stepmom kept saying that they should be together. He bears no responsibility for his actions as an older more experienced young man.
The mom is upset because she lost two sons when OP hit her with the grandbaby card. It must be in the cheater's playbook because there's always a sudden pregnancy that shifts the parents to the cheater's side. Aaron and Ez hit her with the we have babies, wives and lives card, then she realized what she had done. Aaron is definitely an all star brother.
Give up on reconciliation. The brothers know OP's true character (especially Aaron) and don't want him around their wives and children. He has nothing that will enhance their lives and they don't need his drama, toxicity and chaos.
8:54 11:08
Action has consequences.
You cant be selective abt blames either..
if you dig a hole, someone falls, get injured then you would be blamed for it too.
Wow. The OP and every family member that supported OP and the gf are trash.
Story 2: OP's mother is WRONG. Plain and simple.
OP choosing to apologise to Lily was the mature thing to do, as his comment was out of line, but Lily and OP's Dad were the cause, not OP's Mom's drug addition.
'In sickness and in health,' OP's Dad failed as a husband for not helping his wife through her addiction, failed her by sticking his dick in another woman when the marriage got tough and then completed his failure by only supporting her with therapy after he made sure he'd taken her children and stability from her.
She made a mistake, but the affair wasn't a justifiable response.
Story 1: As the oldest of my brothers, I'm disgusted with what OP did. I like to teach him a lesson on how you don't fuck your brother's gf. Him, Melanie, Step mom, and nearly everyone in the family are despicable. I would never be like OP's parents and just be ok/allow the relationship to continue. I would have disown him and kicked him out of the house along with Melanie and the step mom. He deserves shit. Aaron is the only real brother that Erza has. The mom should thought more about her actions as she still could have her 2 sons. And the Dad too as he doesn't get to see his sons and their families.
Story 2: OP has every right to be mad at his Dad and his Step Mom for what they did. The Dad could have divorced the mom instead of cheating. There's no excuse for that. The mom still did fuck up badly. I don't understand why she would do drugs to deal with her anxiety. It's like adding gunpowder to a landmine, it only makes things worse. The Dad should have nipped that in the butt when he found out. If he did, he would still be married to her. I just hope that OP learns from both of his parents' mistakes as they did fucked up big time. I would never have contact with my parents after learning all of that. And for the love of God people, STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM DRUGS!!! I lost my own brother to a od, believe me they don't help you at all, only make you more miserable.
2 If your father loved your mom, he would have got her help. Instead he cheats on her. WTF
This person doesn't care what he did. "She was abused by Ez for cheating." No, she was treated like a cheater who doesn't get to expect kindness from someone they betrayed. This kid sucks.
"Look at it from my point of view" Dude, that's the only thinking you're capable of.
This guy literally said "How would it help looking at if from anyone else's POV?" I don't know SEEING HOW YOUR ACTIONS AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE, YOU ABSOLUTE KNOB!
Story 1, you are in the wrong period. I don't hear any accountability at all in your words. You keep using your children as an excuse. Grow up and accept responsibility for your actions. You should leave your brothers alone. It was ok when your mom hose you over your brothers but now that she wants a relationship with it's not ok with you. How selfish can you be.
Good for the brother for leaving the trash behind..❤❤❤
Story 1: The OP should regret his life choices. He should regret the fact he made the choice that hurt his brother and tore the family apart.
This is different than regretting his children. It is possible to not regret his children, while regretting the circumstances that lead up to it
Story 2: That comment about telling the step-mum to essentially kill herself was very far over the line. Could have made a comment about how living with mum would have been the more preferable option, which would have hurt her but not gone so far over that sacred line like telling her to cut herself and succeed in suicide
S1 : leave your brothers alone . Karma can hits hard i hope your kids will not do the same mistake as you , so focus on raising your kids the right way . Why i think that the stepmother want to break the brothers relationship! .
Why would op think his brother want anything to do with a family who would betrayal them op and his family have to deal with the consequences of their actions story1