Do you work in a mine or just enjoy making videos on the equipment? Im pretty new to your channel Ive only been subscribed for about a month but I do really enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work.
Another very great video from you, as always :-). It´s awesome to see every angle of such a big machine. I look forward to your next documentary. And i hope you can show us sometime a big rope shovel, like a P&H oder Bucyrus :-) Greets from germany
The 5000 series certainly had there issues, no doubt about it and just as they were getting them right with the release of the B series they dropped them, big mistake right there, 7LL00032 certainly made me some money as a mechanic!!
Is the engine in that a V configuration or a big in-line? Couldnt really tell if that cylinder bank was cocked out at an agle or not in the vid. Wish I could have that thing for cleaning fence rows, mkes my friends Link-Belt look like a tinker toy.
Ok thanks, do you know if they were a decently good machine? I heard a lot of negative things about machines like the 350 and the 375 series Cat excavators?
bert26a From what I've heard, the 5110's were probably the best of the 5000 series. Cat had those excavators right. I was told not long ago by a Cat mechanic that up until a certain serial # (I think it was 200 but I will have to confirm), that the 375's just had a lot of problems; then after that serial #, they got a lot better. Many long-time excavator operators often tell me that Cat hasn't built a good machine since the 200 Series.
Yeah I've heard that many times myself and often thought the 235 and 245 were much better than their successors. The only thing I had wished for on those machines was an undercarriage like the newer machines and the 3208 engine on the 225 was a piece of crap. lol
Sounds good pard! if you ever get the chance to do a video on a 977 cat track loader please do! that's what I run in a paper mill in Washington state! feeding hawg fuel! ( saw dust) into a burner! to make paper! and in my spare time I run a 146h blade to keep the road smooth for the haul trucks! for the 3rd largest paper companies in the world!
That is one monster excavator I bet the toy would be so big that you could probably drive it that diesel engine has the same horsepower as an F-15 E strike Eagle fighter jet and also I bet that what it moves it feels like an earthquake
Not an expert by any means on Fluid Dynamics, but I would assume that it is easier on the pump to " push " fluid thru a cylinder rather than " pull " it thru.
The fluid pushed against the side of the cylinder without the rod in it exposes greater surface area and gives more force than the cylinder side with the rod. I would guess that they wanted greater force to lift and took advantage of the boom weight to dig. I believe it is PSI x ( Pi x radius of cylinder squared ) = cylinder force. The rod side would have the pressure subtracted using the rod radius giving far less force on that end of the cylinder.
There is no advantage power wise to inverting the cylinders. It makes no difference which way the cylinder is, as to extend the cylinder, you always have to push on the same end of the rod. It doesn't matter if it's pushing up, or pushing down. The cylinders are inverted to keep dust and dirt from building up on the top of the seals, and causing damage and leaks. As well as to simplify hydraulic hose and piping routing.
I wonder why! On this machine the boom cylinders push down against the frame, but on some machines of similar size, like a Komatsu PC2000, the cylinders push up from the frame. What would be a reason why?
This question has already been answered. The reason why the cylinders are inverted is to keep dust and dirt from building up on the top of the seals, and causing damage and leaks. Additionally, this design also helps in simplifying the hydraulic hose routing.
Another fine vid! Enjoy your offerings muchly. I spent my years working as machinist at Dresser-Rand. Biggest thing I ever operated was a 25 ton fork lift. I'd enjoy the opportunity to be aboard a hoe that size whilst working, but too old now. I also catch vids from Skadill, who does the same sort of walk around on old timbering machines. Worth the watch if you haven't seen his stuff. Thanks again.
Goodness, this machine is in a completely different league to what most of us use in the 7-30 ton range....makes me feel very humble ! American engineering at its finest. Thank you for the tour, PA. You make it so clear. You and Skadill are the favourites of this part time UK operator. I know my place !
Thanks for this video, I've been told that the 5000 series Cats weren't very reliable. I've never been near one or seen one operate in the flesh, so to speak, which is why your video is very welcome along with the earlier 5130 video you have posted. Your explanations are, as usual, very informative. Thankyou again for making the effort.
They weren't. There were many flaws with these machine. The 5130s for example, had weak undercarriages and were overpowered for how light they were built. Thanks
The black stuff you see on the boom would be grease build up. The machine has a central lubrication system that lubricates all major pins during a set time interval. As all the joints are moving, the grease gets hot and drips down. The fire suppressant system is electronically controlled. When a fire starts on the machine it is detected by electronic sensors, which immediately alert the operator and automatically turn on the fire system. Little sprayers located at various points around the machine turn on to try and extinguish the fire, just as you would do with a manual fire extinguisher.
Thank you! I design my videos to be full of history and technical information so that my audience learns something and stays entertained. Worry not, the Fiat 41-B is planned for filming this summer!
It doesn't matter which way the boom cylinders are mounted, they always expand to lift the boom (most force) and retract to lower (lesser force). They are mounted inverted on the larger machines just because its easier to run all the hyd lines in the same spot on top of the boom rather than down below.
yes this is my world escavator and front showel but like this is really a dream working one of this kings of escavators CAT is the best in world any place you go we see a CAT any where simple the BEST EVER cheers nice vedeo good explain
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It is amazing the knowledge you have on all these pieces of equiptment.!!
Do you work in a mine or just enjoy making videos on the equipment? Im pretty new to your channel Ive only been subscribed for about a month but I do really enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work.
98SimplicityBroadmoor Yes I do, I am a mining engineer. Glad you enjoy my videos!
Another very great video from you, as always :-). It´s awesome to see every angle of such a big machine.
I look forward to your next documentary.
And i hope you can show us sometime a big rope shovel, like a P&H oder Bucyrus :-)
Greets from germany
Thank you! I always try and show a lot of good angles of a machine. Worry not, a P&H 2800 is in the works! Greetings from Pennsylvania!
The 5000 series certainly had there issues, no doubt about it and just as they were getting them right with the release of the B series they dropped them, big mistake right there, 7LL00032 certainly made me some money as a mechanic!!
Glad you're back,great video.
Excellent video once again PA Mining 👍👍👍. Glad I found this channel. Going to enjoy watching through the back catalogue...
Cool mate, welcome aboard!
I really like your videos keep up the good work
I'm really love your video.
Is the engine in that a V configuration or a big in-line? Couldnt really tell if that cylinder bank was cocked out at an agle or not in the vid. Wish I could have that thing for cleaning fence rows, mkes my friends Link-Belt look like a tinker toy.
It is a V-16. There are eight cylinders per side
Have you ever come across any Cat 5110 series excavators at any of those coal mines?
Surprisingly no. I have seen one 5110 on a big road construction project, and one at a gold mine in Peru, but none in PA surface coal.
Ok thanks, do you know if they were a decently good machine? I heard a lot of negative things about machines like the 350 and the 375 series Cat excavators?
bert26a From what I've heard, the 5110's were probably the best of the 5000 series. Cat had those excavators right. I was told not long ago by a Cat mechanic that up until a certain serial # (I think it was 200 but I will have to confirm), that the 375's just had a lot of problems; then after that serial #, they got a lot better. Many long-time excavator operators often tell me that Cat hasn't built a good machine since the 200 Series.
Yeah I've heard that many times myself and often thought the 235 and 245 were much better than their successors. The only thing I had wished for on those machines was an undercarriage like the newer machines and the 3208 engine on the 225 was a piece of crap. lol
+bert26a a 3208 was really a throw away engine. If you had a really good mechanic they could be rebuilt and last as long as the stock original.
why did cat drop the 5000 series of excavator and shovel they had so much potential was it because of terex please leave me coments if you could
Sounds good pard! if you ever get the chance to do a video on a 977 cat track loader please do! that's what I run in a paper mill in Washington state! feeding hawg fuel! ( saw dust) into a burner! to make paper! and in my spare time I run a 146h blade to keep the road smooth for the haul trucks! for the 3rd largest paper companies in the world!
That is one monster excavator I bet the toy would be so big that you could probably drive it that diesel engine has the same horsepower as an F-15 E strike Eagle fighter jet and also I bet that what it moves it feels like an earthquake
5080 video documentary requested go some where else instead of searching around the entire state of Pennsylvania
What would be the actual geometric or hydraulic advantage or such of the large machines always having the boom cyls inverted?
Not an expert by any means on Fluid Dynamics, but I would assume that it is easier on the pump to " push " fluid thru a cylinder rather than " pull " it thru.
The fluid pushed against the side of the cylinder without the rod in it exposes greater surface area and gives more force than the cylinder side with the rod. I would guess that they wanted greater force to lift and took advantage of the boom weight to dig. I believe it is PSI x ( Pi x radius of cylinder squared ) = cylinder force. The rod side would have the pressure subtracted using the rod radius giving far less force on that end of the cylinder.
There is no advantage power wise to inverting the cylinders. It makes no difference which way the cylinder is, as to extend the cylinder, you always have to push on the same end of the rod. It doesn't matter if it's pushing up, or pushing down. The cylinders are inverted to keep dust and dirt from building up on the top of the seals, and causing damage and leaks. As well as to simplify hydraulic hose and piping routing.
Sounds like the laws of physics and practicality combine well here
I wonder why! On this machine the boom cylinders push down against the frame, but on some machines of similar size, like a Komatsu PC2000, the cylinders push up from the frame. What would be a reason why?
This question has already been answered. The reason why the cylinders are inverted is to keep dust and dirt from building up on the top of the seals, and causing damage and leaks. Additionally, this design also helps in simplifying the hydraulic hose routing.
Another fine vid! Enjoy your offerings muchly. I spent my years working as machinist at Dresser-Rand. Biggest thing I ever operated was a 25 ton fork lift. I'd enjoy the opportunity to be aboard a hoe that size whilst working, but too old now. I also catch vids from Skadill, who does the same sort of walk around on old timbering machines. Worth the watch if you haven't seen his stuff. Thanks again.
Thanks. I will say, Skadill manages to get some good stuff on video.
Awesome documentary, please give us a 30 minute + video of the 5230 digging, a cab view and ground level view, the longer the video the better 😊
Pete Wilk Haha, I do have some new Full HD videos of the 5230 at work loading trucks coming up in the future!
Goodness, this machine is in a completely different league to what most of us use in the 7-30 ton range....makes me feel very humble ! American engineering at its finest. Thank you for the tour, PA. You make it so clear. You and Skadill are the favourites of this part time UK operator. I know my place !
Thank you, I appreciate it! Skadill has lots of good videos and is one of my personal favorites on TH-cam
Amazing machine. How much does it cost?
Thanks for this video, I've been told that the 5000 series Cats weren't very reliable. I've never been near one or seen one operate in the flesh, so to speak, which is why your video is very welcome along with the earlier 5130 video you have posted. Your explanations are, as usual, very informative. Thankyou again for making the effort.
They weren't. There were many flaws with these machine. The 5130s for example, had weak undercarriages and were overpowered for how light they were built. Thanks
Awesome video! I was wondering what all the black stuff was on the boom? I was also wondering how the fire system works? Thank you.
The black stuff you see on the boom would be grease build up. The machine has a central lubrication system that lubricates all major pins during a set time interval. As all the joints are moving, the grease gets hot and drips down. The fire suppressant system is electronically controlled. When a fire starts on the machine it is detected by electronic sensors, which immediately alert the operator and automatically turn on the fire system. Little sprayers located at various points around the machine turn on to try and extinguish the fire, just as you would do with a manual fire extinguisher.
Hi, very interesting for me as I don't have access to this kind of "inside view of the machine" ! Thanks for sharing this documentary.
Your welcome, glad you enjoyed it!
nice video. That CAT most be awesome to drive!
Thank's for the video =)
just amazing how much info are in these videos i do some walkarounds myself but yours are a thousand times better great videos keep up the good work
you should do a fiat allis fd41
Thank you! I design my videos to be full of history and technical information so that my audience learns something and stays entertained. Worry not, the Fiat 41-B is planned for filming this summer!
thanks your videos are great
What is the GPH fuel usage? I bet its a seriously large amount.
I am not sure really, but I can find out.
PAmining I looked it up, its 103.2 g/hr. Which is a lot!
You did your Home Work on this one !
Very nice .
Haha, I do my homework for every machine I film! Thanks
Great video! As usual.
dam rite! Justin nice job as allways! see u in vegas!
+CAT POWER (ALLDAY) Haha, yes sir see you there!
interesting video !!
very nice job man
Very nice video. By watching videos like this ,I can learn a lot about mining equipment.You explain everything,up to the smallest detail
Thanks, that is the whole purpose of my videos is to educate!
I have to say you're one awesome teacher :-)
slobodan martinovic Well thank you!
Hey can you do a video on the 657 scraper
I will if I see one. Scrapers are very uncommon around here
Is this machine, still operating?
+ROYALTON COAL Yes, although I believe it is to be idled soon
okay thanks
Great video!
nice video you do a good job
+Robert Jackson Thanks
Great video! I really like the details that you go into about these machines. Very informative!
It doesn't matter which way the boom cylinders are mounted, they always expand to lift the boom (most force) and retract to lower (lesser force). They are mounted inverted on the larger machines just because its easier to run all the hyd lines in the same spot on top of the boom rather than down below.
yes this is my world escavator and front showel but like this is really a dream working one of this kings of escavators CAT is the best in world any place you go we see a CAT any where simple the BEST EVER cheers nice vedeo good explain