Reminds me of the 80's where serious golfers would be hitting balata and we amateurs were hitting Top-Flite rockets! Pros were allowed to switch back then, rocket off the tee, balata approach.
Im a senior golfer. I have been playing this ball for over a year. I get more distance and lands soft on the greens. It's great for seniors that have lost a little swing speed. I don't play in tournaments so it's always in my bag. It also costs less. Win win.
To be honest my swing is in the mid 90s with the driver and I have found the best balls for my carry are the softer golf balls such as Callaway Supersoft or the Taylor Made Soft Response. For me I lose distance using a Titleist ProV or other high end ball as they are usually somewhat harder.
As a 71 yr old geezer living in The Villages, Fl ( or Golfers Heaven), I’ve played all brands of golf balls in the last 10 years, and the UNDISPUTED LONGEST ,STOPPING QUICKLY on the greens is the MG SENIOR golf ball… FOLKS this is the best ball to play
Will see how you do in your sixty's pal. I used to be able to hit 300. Now at 63 I still hit 250 but everyone can't. I'll save my LOL for you when you are 60+.
I’m confused. 1) why are they illegal ? Weight was good, size was good and core looked fine 2) They performed better than prov1 at low swing speed? Why isn’t everyone using them. Unless they cost a fortune
Yeah, club and a half is accurate. It adds ten off the tee - and 6 off the irons. Add them up, and you are a club to club and a half closer. Cannot wait until I am a senior golfer so I can use them!
I bought a dozen a couple of weeks ago...before I saw your video. I've played one 9-hole round with them. I found that I did hit it further off the tee. Probably 10-12 yards on average. Also hit the irons longer, too. Probably 5-8 yards on average.
If you launch a new ball to market you can bet Titlist will do everything it can to destroy it, including going to the USGA and The R&A. MG had a C4 ball just as good as any Pro V1 and Titleist destroyed their manufacturing deal a couple years ago.
I find that generally 2 piece balls go further than 3/4 piece balls and as you don’t normally get as much spin they do tend to be a little more forgiving.
For sure. I swing around 120mph with my driver, and I still prefer SuperSofts over premium balls because I get too much spin otherwise, and I can nuke the SuperSofts long and straight
OFF TOPIC ... I AM LOOKING FOR A LAUNCH MONITOR THAT I CAN TAKE WITH ME ON COURSE SO I CAN SEE SHOT DATA AS I PLAY A ROUND...AS I GET TIRED AND SWITCH FROM CLUB TO CLUB..WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND ... I WAS LOOKING AT THE BUSHNELL, BUT IT IS KIND OF EXPENSIVE FOR A WEEKEND WARRIOR SUCH AS MYSELF. JUST NEED SOMETHING I CAN SET DOWN QUICKLY AND HIT A SHOT (OR 2 IF NEEDED) AND THEN MOVE TO THE NEXT SHOT AND KEEP PACE OF PLAY. OF COURSE I WOULD BE PLAYING AN AFTERNOON SOLO ROUND...IM SURE YOU GET WHAT I'M GOING FOR HERE...ANY HELP IS APPRECIATED
Would like to see this test comparing the MG and a Callaway super soft, a ball made for slower, swing speeds and seniors The pro V one is made for pros and people with swing speeds over 100 mph.
Why use v1x? Recommendation is 100 clubs speed +.....v1 will be similar to mg for you but strait? I hit slightly faster with 90mph, can't hit a long Iron with the x at my speed...
Yeah, I've got about 5 dozen found Prov1x in my collection. Can't use them because with my lower swing speed it's like hitting rocks. Regular Prov1 are OK though, and the AVX are a great choice too.
As a biology major... the one suggestion I'd make is to hit blind... have a outside observer know if he was hitting the mg or the pro v1... and mix them in... and have them debadged... but... for a youtube video... this was solid science.
hit a Desperado bill a few times....like hitting a rock, very unpleasant. Not worth it for a few xtra yards. Wilson Ultra is a great ball for both distance and feel. As lively as a Srixon and for 1/3 the price.
Interesting findings, but I do question the 250-yard marketing threshold. One average that I found for ALL age golfers was 225 yards. Seniors checked in at between 185 and 200. So, MG is going after ALL golfers, not just seniors. And, relatively speaking, senior results would be lower (distance-wise) than a younger, precision striker such as you. Also, a scary thought is how many players will swing even harder, figuring a little extra can only enhance the MG results. Another factor I question is durability. I know nothing about golf ball construction, but when you cut it open, it seemed as though the thin shell could be more prone to nicks and cutting. Does that make sense? Again, I don't know how golf balls are made.
You are correct on the Senior distance. I am average Golfer and 54 Years Old I normally get a Carry Distance of 210 Yards with roll out average of 230 Yards on Average.
Hi Matt....I always enjoy your videos and wish you the best with your channel...I have a request...I play in a group for fun...We are all seniors with the oldest being 83...I'm 75 and at times, I'm out driven by some of the younger guys in the group...I recently read about a small golf company which makes a ball, the MG Senior ball...The ball is not USGA conforming...Their claims are that with a slow swing speed,
The extra thickness on one side will make a difference when putting as if you put it in a bowl of water you will see it will be out of balance for putting by flouting to one side all the time if you mark the top of golf ball
@@JohnSmith-mx8wp they don't need to float but most of them do to a point but what you do is to mark top top part of the ball and drop it back in if the mark keeps going to the top it is out of balance you will be surprised to how many are out even pro-V1
People get a medium sized bowl of water and add epsom salts until a golf ball will float in the water. Then you gently place the ball in the water, spinning it as you place it in. When it stops spinning you take out the ball, dry it, and mark with a Sharpie the spot on the ball that was facing up with a dot. You repeat this a few times with the same ball and see if the same side or same point keeps coming up to the top or if different locations come to the top. If the same spot keeps coming to the top, then the ball is considered out of balance and has a “heavier” side and a “lighter” side. It’s debatable how much of a difference an out of balance ball might make when putting or hitting a full shot. I think it could make a slight difference, predominantly during putting on the last few feet (or maybe just inches) of a putt as the golf ball slows down and its forward momentum is waning.
I wish he would cut open a few more across different axis locations to see if MG Senior balls frequently have this situation or if it was just the first one he cut open. He could mark on the ball where the cutting starts and where it ends to test your hypothesis also. Good point!
I'm 57 years old and just played in a tournament against much younger guys who were outdriving me with a 2 iron. I mean, I hit my drives between 230-250, but it was an endless embarrassment being 60+ yards behind these guys off the tee. I shot 77, and beat all but one guy, but still, it's deflating having 7 iron into greens while they are hitting wedges.
77 is a great score at any age Sir.! What were your numbers in your younger years? How much distance have you lost off of the tee? How much did distance affect your score?
Honestly I don’t like my driver going high or over 300 yards. My miss is a left pull in my release that can make a 320 yard shot not findable. Let alone a 345 yard shot.
A two piece ball travelling further than a three piece ball. Not exactly a groundbreaking technological discovery. The difference is spin and control around the greens, which is why pros and low handicappers prefer a three, four or five piece golf ball.
Most golfers would benefit playing a softer two or three piece ball anyway. Most golfers should never play the prov1x. The newer one is even harder for the pros that have faster swing speeds. I don't even like the x anymore now that they are harder and I have above average speed. I'm not fast enough to play the x. Always get fit even for your ball.
Yeah, I've got about 5 dozen found Prov1x in my collection. Can't use them because with my lower swing speed it's like hitting rocks. Regular Prov1 are OK though, and the AVX are a great choice too.
'Im 76, GHIN 14. I played the MG Senior a lot last summer and gave them to many men and women of equal or better skill.. ALL players gained a minimum 0f 15-20 yards. Of course when attempting to qualify for the US Open, I switched to a USGA approved ball. "You're welcome". =. ) B. Watson. PS: Canadian glaciers move faster than my swing.
Dear Mr. Short game. I am disappointed with this ball, on several accounts. First, I bought this ball, because I am a low velocity hitter. My club head speed is about 75 mph. I typically hit the ball about 180 yds. So, I should benefit from this ball, but instead lost about 30 yds of distance when hitting it. It also felt hard off the face. Second when you cut it open, we saw that the core is not centered, but is offset. Like a hard-boiled egg, when you cut it open, the yolk is off to one side. Therefore it can't possibly have symmetrical flight characteristics, and should have failed the PGA symmetry test. So, maybe I was hitting it wrong? Maybe I need to find the seam? Can you test it again, in-seam and across the seam? Right now for me the best ball is the Calloway Chromesoft. It gives me 20 yards extra.
You're right. I'm 75 and my clubhead speed is 67. I can still compete with others in my club. Simple. Learn to hit it straight and forget about distance. Straight beats long every day of the week. And twice on Sundays.
Whatever u still got to hit the shot and the distance whatever if u need a s 7 iron or a 6 iron and u gotta make a putt or two putts or three putts or even 20 putts is called relax and have a nice day at the golf course the ball is just a fraction of the game brother be nice and respect ur elders Lol ❤😂😊
You should now test them playing at normal swing speed to see if “non target” players can get any benefit!
Agree! What happens when you put the swing speed at 100 mph?
A friend of mine with a 105 swing speed hit them over 20 yards longer.
@@alarmservicepros god I wish I didn't see this comment... this is going to be expensive
This is the best high detailed video I’ve seen with a sim, normally not this in depth I love it 👍
I found a couple of these balls on the course and was very impressed with them.
I use these balls. They're great, gives you extra distance and the price is right!!!
Reminds me of the 80's where serious golfers would be hitting balata and we amateurs were hitting Top-Flite rockets! Pros were allowed to switch back then, rocket off the tee, balata approach.
They couldn’t switch balls on the fairway. They usually would hit a top flight on a longer par 3 then switch to balata for other holes
Im a senior golfer. I have been playing this ball for over a year. I get more distance and lands soft on the greens. It's great for seniors that have lost a little swing speed. I don't play in tournaments so it's always in my bag. It also costs less. Win win.
Being following you for a while now... Man you turn any golf subject entertaining.... Good job!
I agree. I've been following him for years.
To be honest my swing is in the mid 90s with the driver and I have found the best balls for my carry are the softer golf balls such as Callaway Supersoft or the Taylor Made Soft Response. For me I lose distance using a Titleist ProV or other high end ball as they are usually somewhat harder.
Same
As a 71 yr old geezer living in The Villages, Fl ( or Golfers Heaven), I’ve played all brands of golf balls in the last 10 years, and the UNDISPUTED LONGEST ,STOPPING QUICKLY on the greens is the MG SENIOR golf ball… FOLKS this is the best ball to play
Lol, "less than 250 yds", pretty much everybody
Will see how you do in your sixty's pal. I used to be able to hit 300. Now at 63 I still hit 250 but everyone can't. I'll save my LOL for you when you are 60+.
250 off the tee but probably still shooting in the 90s lol @@FLjeffinPCB
@FLjeffinPCB think you misunderstood what he meant. Was saying that he already hits under 250 and that pretty much everyone does
He was swinging like an 80yr old to show the effectiveness, it any
You mean everyone over 60
I’m confused. 1) why are they illegal ? Weight was good, size was good and core looked fine 2) They performed better than prov1 at low swing speed? Why isn’t everyone using them. Unless they cost a fortune
It usually means they are too hot off the clubface in testing.
@@keithpanco seeing the core and shell I wonder what causes that as it looked like it was similar to others I’ve seen cut in half. Interesting
Most will not use them due to EGO.
@@keithpanco exactly the only reason... u just need to find another ball to play in official tournaments
Yeah, club and a half is accurate. It adds ten off the tee - and 6 off the irons. Add them up, and you are a club to club and a half closer. Cannot wait until I am a senior golfer so I can use them!
u dont need to be a senior to use... just not officail for play in sanctioned tournaments
Really wanted to see the difference if you swing as hard as you can. Please do another video!!
Yes
it wont work... the description said for under 250 yard... i'm guessing that it becomes counter intuitive if you swing hard as its for soft swingers.
@@MrJoepepslook at other comments and there are multiple higher swing speed players who say it goes further.
You got the same difference I get using a AVX over a ProV1, too much spin with the PV1 hurting me too much with the bad shots! (enter time 9:35)
No wonder my dads golf bag was loaded with these golf balls…
Huh 🤔
It all makes sense now!!!!
Lol 😂
Good video. Just started hitting Taylormade distance golf balls off the tee and have picked up about ten yards.
I bought a dozen a couple of weeks ago...before I saw your video. I've played one 9-hole round with them. I found that I did hit it further off the tee. Probably 10-12 yards on average. Also hit the irons longer, too. Probably 5-8 yards on average.
Only available in the US for $24 bucks a dozen. Can't find on amazon.
If you launch a new ball to market you can bet Titlist will do everything it can to destroy it, including going to the USGA and The R&A. MG had a C4 ball just as good as any Pro V1 and Titleist destroyed their manufacturing deal a couple years ago.
Moving up a tee box will get you more yards, lol.
Longer balls AND shorter tees wtf? Damn greedy seniors!
(btw, I'm 65)
I find that generally 2 piece balls go further than 3/4 piece balls and as you don’t normally get as much spin they do tend to be a little more forgiving.
For sure. I swing around 120mph with my driver, and I still prefer SuperSofts over premium balls because I get too much spin otherwise, and I can nuke the SuperSofts long and straight
@@HuntForParfection yeah I believe that to be true, have you used srixon soft feels? Another excellent budget ball.
@@laurencegoulty3196 The Srixon Soft Feel is a great ball, I've played most of my best rounds using them and my swing speed is above average.
The MG golf ball does give you more distance. I've been playing with it for two years now at less than half the price of ProV1.
These ball plus PolyMax tape make for incredible drives.
You said you were going to leave the Amazon link, I dont see it.
OFF TOPIC ... I AM LOOKING FOR A LAUNCH MONITOR THAT I CAN TAKE WITH ME ON COURSE SO I CAN SEE SHOT DATA AS I PLAY A ROUND...AS I GET TIRED AND SWITCH FROM CLUB TO CLUB..WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND ... I WAS LOOKING AT THE BUSHNELL, BUT IT IS KIND OF EXPENSIVE FOR A WEEKEND WARRIOR SUCH AS MYSELF. JUST NEED SOMETHING I CAN SET DOWN QUICKLY AND HIT A SHOT (OR 2 IF NEEDED) AND THEN MOVE TO THE NEXT SHOT AND KEEP PACE OF PLAY. OF COURSE I WOULD BE PLAYING AN AFTERNOON SOLO ROUND...IM SURE YOU GET WHAT I'M GOING FOR HERE...ANY HELP IS APPRECIATED
Great test. Very good protocols. Wish you would do more ball tests.
Great video. But, I’m left with two questions. 1. What makes it illegal. 2. What happens if you hit it with a swing sound 100. -
106?
Would like to see this test comparing the MG and a Callaway super soft, a ball made for slower, swing speeds and seniors
The pro V one is made for pros and people with swing speeds over 100 mph.
i use both and find MG just slightly longer yet the Supersoft feels much softer
@@bournefree thank you.....seen Mg before...just wasn't sure
Why use v1x? Recommendation is 100 clubs speed +.....v1 will be similar to mg for you but strait? I hit slightly faster with 90mph, can't hit a long Iron with the x at my speed...
Yeah, I've got about 5 dozen found Prov1x in my collection. Can't use them because with my lower swing speed it's like hitting rocks. Regular Prov1 are OK though, and the AVX are a great choice too.
Thanks Matt....You've confirmed my experience with the ball...
As a biology major... the one suggestion I'd make is to hit blind... have a outside observer know if he was hitting the mg or the pro v1... and mix them in... and have them debadged... but... for a youtube video... this was solid science.
What distance did you get with your normal swing speed driver?
We’ll see…I just ordered mine at Amazon for $29 one dozen.
So how did those work out?
MG golf's Tour C4 ball was excellent. Played as good as the Pro V1. Not sure if they still make it.
Interesting. I wonder what is illegal about the ball. Is there a minimum compression level that a golf ball can have?
Seniors hitting under 250, what about us Seniors hitting under 200?
That's just marketing. They are trying to open the ball up to more potential customers. Most seniors aren't hitting anywhere near 250.
hit a Desperado bill a few times....like hitting a rock, very unpleasant. Not worth it for a few xtra yards. Wilson Ultra is a great ball for both distance and feel. As lively as a Srixon and for 1/3 the price.
Interesting findings, but I do question the 250-yard marketing threshold. One average that I found for ALL age golfers was 225 yards. Seniors checked in at between 185 and 200. So, MG is going after ALL golfers, not just seniors. And, relatively speaking, senior results would be lower (distance-wise) than a younger, precision striker such as you. Also, a scary thought is how many players will swing even harder, figuring a little extra can only enhance the MG results. Another factor I question is durability. I know nothing about golf ball construction, but when you cut it open, it seemed as though the thin shell could be more prone to nicks and cutting. Does that make sense? Again, I don't know how golf balls are made.
You are correct on the Senior distance. I am average Golfer and 54 Years Old I normally get a Carry Distance of 210 Yards with roll out average of 230 Yards on Average.
You are correct. The average male golfer hits around 225 total. They think they hit 300, but they hit 225.
Exactly@@keithpanco
When we were kids we had Super Balls, a plastic/rubber ball that bounced like crazy.
Put that in a golf ball for some REAL distance.
Aerodynamics is critical is getting a true read. The simulator can not calculate that. You should try it out side
Maybe another vid using the standard MCG golf ball vs. the Titleist?
Good video Matt. As usual.
Hi Matt....I always enjoy your videos and wish you the best with your channel...I have a request...I play in a group for fun...We are all seniors with the oldest being 83...I'm 75 and at times, I'm out driven by some of the younger guys in the group...I recently read about a small golf company which makes a ball, the MG Senior ball...The ball is not USGA conforming...Their claims are that with a slow swing speed,
I picked up some of these at goodwill. Ended up liking them a ton. I’m buying some since I lost them already 😅.
Why are you testing them in a simulator? They work with the wind given their dimple pattern.
The extra thickness on one side will make a difference when putting as if you put it in a bowl of water you will see it will be out of balance for putting by flouting to one side all the time if you mark the top of golf ball
I doubt that these golf balls float. Would be great if they did though - easier to retrieve from the pond. 😝
@@JohnSmith-mx8wp they don't need to float but most of them do to a point but what you do is to mark top top part of the ball and drop it back in if the mark keeps going to the top it is out of balance you will be surprised to how many are out even pro-V1
People get a medium sized bowl of water and add epsom salts until a golf ball will float in the water. Then you gently place the ball in the water, spinning it as you place it in. When it stops spinning you take out the ball, dry it, and mark with a Sharpie the spot on the ball that was facing up with a dot. You repeat this a few times with the same ball and see if the same side or same point keeps coming up to the top or if different locations come to the top. If the same spot keeps coming to the top, then the ball is considered out of balance and has a “heavier” side and a “lighter” side. It’s debatable how much of a difference an out of balance ball might make when putting or hitting a full shot. I think it could make a slight difference, predominantly during putting on the last few feet (or maybe just inches) of a putt as the golf ball slows down and its forward momentum is waning.
There used to be a ball called "Condor" that was 20 yards further off the driver, it was crazy long
I happened to find a dozen of them in an old box in my garage this year.
It would be interesting to see how it works out with your normal swing speed
How soft or hard are they around the greens? like a Titleist Velocity ??
the mistery may stay in the design of the dimples
Mr .Long Game MG
Any chance the directoon of cut is making one side appear thicker then the other
I wish he would cut open a few more across different axis locations to see if MG Senior balls frequently have this situation or if it was just the first one he cut open. He could mark on the ball where the cutting starts and where it ends to test your hypothesis also. Good point!
Please hit some wedge shots to get an idea on short gane spin?
Now if they also spin/stop good on wedges they might be a good replacement ball. I'm also curious on the price and how they compare to other balls.
Does testing of a ball inside give you the best info? Wouldn’t outside give you a better answer?
I'm 57 years old and just played in a tournament against much younger guys who were outdriving me with a 2 iron. I mean, I hit my drives between 230-250, but it was an endless embarrassment being 60+ yards behind these guys off the tee. I shot 77, and beat all but one guy, but still, it's deflating having 7 iron into greens while they are hitting wedges.
77 is a great score at any age Sir.! What were your numbers in your younger years? How much distance have you lost off of the tee? How much did distance affect your score?
Honestly I don’t like my driver going high or over 300 yards. My miss is a left pull in my release that can make a 320 yard shot not findable. Let alone a 345 yard shot.
What's the compression number.
Can you do this same video on Polaria balls??
A two piece ball travelling further than a three piece ball. Not exactly a groundbreaking technological discovery. The difference is spin and control around the greens, which is why pros and low handicappers prefer a three, four or five piece golf ball.
I know a lot of seniors that are gonna play any ball they find onthe course cause they know it don't make a crap ha😂
Where can I get “mr SG” stickers from like your logo on the wall?
Wish I could achieve 85 mph swing speed. Wonder how this would work at way lower swing speeds.
JLR investigates and Mr Shorts club are twins...thatsa team
Most golfers would benefit playing a softer two or three piece ball anyway. Most golfers should never play the prov1x. The newer one is even harder for the pros that have faster swing speeds. I don't even like the x anymore now that they are harder and I have above average speed. I'm not fast enough to play the x. Always get fit even for your ball.
Yeah, I've got about 5 dozen found Prov1x in my collection. Can't use them because with my lower swing speed it's like hitting rocks. Regular Prov1 are OK though, and the AVX are a great choice too.
Actually kind of impressive that it mostly lived up to the expectations set.
New to your app. Love you test. Keep testing. I need atleast 30 more yards. I'm 73. 😢
bigger Arc on your swing and shorten your driver to 44.5 OAL increases swing speed and accuracy
Move up thirty yards, problem solved.
First! Thank you for your vid's bud!
I bought a dozen of these when they first came out. Maybe it's me, but absolutely no gain in distance.
'Im 76, GHIN 14. I played the MG Senior a lot last summer and gave them to many men and women of equal or better skill.. ALL players gained a minimum 0f 15-20 yards. Of course when attempting to qualify for the US Open, I switched to a USGA approved ball. "You're welcome". =. ) B. Watson.
PS: Canadian glaciers move faster than my swing.
It’s only illegal if your in a pro paid tournament
Simple if you can't putt, it's all show.
Oh, MG !
We need to see full speed numbers.
Test them at normal club head speed and post that video, this could confirm if the reported gains continue or plateau out
Grip it and rip it and lets see the results💪👍
What makes them illegal? Did I miss that part of the video?
In addition, the MG balls are much cheaper!
It's only for low velocity hitters, not for you Mr. Short Game!
Most/all golfers think they hit it a lot farther than they really do!
Dear Mr. Short game. I am disappointed with this ball, on several accounts. First, I bought this ball, because I am a low velocity hitter. My club head speed is about 75 mph. I typically hit the ball about 180 yds. So, I should benefit from this ball, but instead lost about 30 yds of distance when hitting it. It also felt hard off the face.
Second when you cut it open, we saw that the core is not centered, but is offset. Like a hard-boiled egg, when you cut it open, the yolk is off to one side. Therefore it can't possibly have symmetrical flight characteristics, and should have failed the PGA symmetry test. So, maybe I was hitting it wrong? Maybe I need to find the seam? Can you test it again, in-seam and across the seam? Right now for me the best ball is the Calloway Chromesoft. It gives me 20 yards extra.
Lets compare it to the Nitro next time 😂
How do they feel?
What makes them illegal?
MG? Is that short for Miagra? 😂
😂
what no link?
If you made hole in one with this ball, it’s OMG.
Now hit that ball at your normal swing speed.
The “ AVERAGE “ senior golfer is not swinging 85-90. More 65-70.
I am , 68. @.85 to 93 club speed.
@@jackwest5295 Note : “ AVERAGE “
You're right. I'm 75 and my clubhead speed is 67. I can still compete with others in my club. Simple. Learn to hit it straight and forget about distance. Straight beats long every day of the week. And twice on Sundays.
Im 70 and have an 87 mph swing speed measured with trackman.
Why is MG non conforming?
It's hotter off the clubface.
You can only drive 191?
Whatever u still got to hit the shot and the distance whatever if u need a s 7 iron or a 6 iron and u gotta make a putt or two putts or three putts or even 20 putts is called relax and have a nice day at the golf course the ball is just a fraction of the game brother be nice and respect ur elders Lol ❤😂😊
I tried these balls and they do not perform any better than other balls. For the price, the "Nitro Whiteout" is a much better ball.
Flubber ?
Must try for my wife!
My favorite golf balls to play I always order these balls I usually hit around 235-250 with my callaway supersoft
With MGs is 270,290…300+
If it was ‘’scientific’’, you would be using an Iron Byron.
What makes the golf ball illegal??? It’s weight and size are legal
Thanks
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You should test the Bridgestone e9 against both these balls
The e9 is for long distance and is legal