Ranking the Albums: The Cult
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- Join Pete Pardo, Martin Popoff, Jamie Laszlo, and Guitar Hack for a ranking of the album of British hard rock act The Cult. #thecult
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I had Electric on cassette back in 1987. I wore it right out. Love Removal Machine and Wildflower are outstanding tracks
LOVE album.....one of the AllTime Greatest Rock Albums by ANY Band ...period.
Definitely one of the best rock albums of the 80s
You said it! LOVE is without doubt, the best CULT album, and one of the best records, period!
Totally agree with Hack, Love #1 baby, great show guys!!!
Funny that one of you said The Cult are notoriously difficult to work with when he referred to Matt Sorums short tenure with the band. Based on my personal interaction with Matt and several others I know who have worked with him...It is Matt who is the difficult one to work with and even be around. (I'm being kind in that assessment...I could bash him but I wont)
At the end of the day Billy and Ian are the Cult and its their vision that will always lead the band into whatever territory they choose. They have had powerhouse drummer (John Tempesta) behind the kit now for well over a decade.
Ive seen them 20 times since 87 and the 2019 and 2022 shows were hands down the 2 best Cult shows I have ever seen. Their most current line up is totally dialed and is a well oiled machine.
Love their entire body of work. Sure I have my favorites....but I love how they take chances and attempt to reinvent themselves and somehow still remain The Cult...and based on the show I saw last week...haven't lost any gas LIve...and certainly haven't lost any love from the fans
the place was packed
For me:
1. Sonic Temple
2.Love
3. Electric
4. Beyond Good and Evil
5. The Cult
6. Choice of Weapon
7. Ceremony
8. Born into This
9. Dream time
10. Hidden City
Interesting show. I've been a fan since The Southern Death Cult, then Death Cult days, and so have a slightly different perception of The Cult. For a Top 3,I would go
1. Love
2.Dream Time
3. Sonic Temple
I think the fact that both "live" albums were initially only limited editions/promotional tools was a lost opportunity-you even had to send away a" proof of purchase " for "Pure Cult" to get the second disc of "Live Cult".
Sonic Temple, Love and Electric would be my top 3 but would shift positions on a moment by moment basis. I just remember the release of Sonic Temple being a real event though and the opening is beyond epic.
Love is the one most fans want the cult to sound like. The goth mode was what got them started and Rain, Phoenix etc are killer.
and Axl Rose copied everything Ian Astbury did on this album...
@@csantana1971 No he didn't lol.
Yeah, Love is the last and greatest Cult album before they had to attempt commercial success from record company pressures etc, they were completely repackaged to compete with mainstream hard rock groups, post Love they have kind of been all over the place, but they did also write some awesome songs along the way.
Killer band; so underrated. Love is their best album, for sure.
Very excited to see "ranking the albums" shows from other two underrated english bands: The Cure and The Stranglers.
Sonic temple
Electric
Born into this
Capsule Tracks
Love
Hidden City
1994
Beyond GAE
Choice of weapon
I simply went by what I listen to the most. I do not have ceremony or dreamtime any more so did not rank them. Would be last obviously.
I added the four songs released as "capsules" and then were released as a second disc of COW. Embers is in my top 5 Cult songs. So glad they played that live when I saw them last.
Seeing them again this week.
Good conversation guys!
Beyond Good And Evil and Dreamtime are my favourite Cult albums right now.
Me too! I also really like the new one Under the Midnight Sun
For me, "Love" all day, every day. The Cult have become one of my favorite bands. Billy Duffy has a lot of impact as a guitar player; he locks in with bass and high hat, so even during solos, the rhythm never falls out.
I just want to say thank you for this; it really lifted my mood in a difficult week. Despite my best efforts, no-one I play their stuff too gets them; with one exception they are voluntarily living the life anaesthetised, a sort of real life version of the Simpsons. So, it was great to hear 4 people who like the band discussing one of my favourites. Although my first exposure was the sheer spinal shock of 'Love Removal Machine' in 1987 and I loved them, it wasn't until 1993 that I really got diving deep. For me, my favourites as albums are Love, Ceremony, Sonic Temple, Dreamtime, Electric, Beyond Good and Evil and then The Cult. I like the more recent albums but ... I was delighted and surprised to hear so many positive vibes for The Cult album, which I think is quite brilliant but also very difficult - to me there is quite a challenging mood, often despairing, driven by some great lyrics from Ian Astbury. Mostly, I think of the Cult as a fun band that play with genres, so the self titled album is quite a change of mood. Thanks once again, peace dogs.
I think The Cult are one of those hard rock bands that will put a smile on someone’s face whenever their songs come on in almost any environment. I personally like Love, Electric, and Sonic Temple the best. I think Ian briefly sang in the short-lived Doors Of The 21st Century band.
Yep, I saw Ian sing for The Doors in Calgary, circa 2004/5. He was awesome!
Thankyou for doing The Cult ....been waiting for this .
LET’S GO! So happy you guys are finally getting around to this band 😊
In the early 80’s I used to go to a pub in Birmingham UK where rockers, goths and punks all hung out together. It was here I first heard of and loved The Cult and I got to see them for the first time in a small nightclub in the city in 1985.
Seen them many times since and will see them again next month joint headlining with Alice Cooper!
Top 3 albums for me are
1. Sonic Temple
2. Love
3. Electric
Top 3 songs
1. Wild Hearted Son
2. Sun King
3. Spiritwalker
As a 1980s goth plus metal head, I still love Dreamtime. I have to rank them on the amount I have listened to each album.
1. Love
2. Electric
3. Dreamtime
4. Sonic Temple
5. Choice of Weapon
6. Beyond Good and Evil
7. The Cult
8. Hidden City
9. Born into This
10. Ceremony
Are The Cult metal to you? Interesting.
This is a great episode! Love Jamie's insight
Long time waiting for this one !! Very entertaining and it shows how much Cult fans have different opinions about their favourite albums. Love the early stuff as much as the most recent ones. i won’t bother ranking them since tomorrow my number 10 might be my number 1. For me, the Cult belongs in a category on its own. I don’t know of any other band that morphed so many times and remained relevant throughout the decades.
Pete your channel rocks and your guests are a pleasure to listen to.
Cheers
For me I was hooked on this band as soon as I heard, Edie (Ciao Baby). Love most of the band's work. Lovely rankings section gents, thankyou. Looking mega forward to the new 2022 album. Can't wait, cheers 🍻.👍
Excellent discussion of a superb band.
1 electric
2 love
3 the cult
4 sonic temple
5 beyond good and evil
Another great episode. The Cult are in my top 10 favorite bands. Thanks Pete for the great content. SOT IS THE BEST CHANNEL ON TH-cam.
I’ve been waiting for this one. Cult is a top 10 band for me. Here is my ranking:
10. Dreamtime
9. Ceremony
8. Sonic Temple
7. Hidden City
6. Born into This
5. Electric
4. The Cult
3. Beyond Good and Evil
2. Love
1. Choice of Weapon
This was a great episode gents!
She Sells Sanctuary=best song
Electric -Best album
The Cult is a great band and Electric is my favourite album. But all their albums are good because they're all different. Really liked the panel for this ranking, this was really fun. Hope this same panel can do something again in the future.
Yes I like the SoT/Contrarians/Guitar Hack mash up
The Cult are a fav of mine. Love all their albums! 1. Electric 2. Ceremony 3. Sonic Temple 4. The Cult 5. Love 6/7. Hidden City/Choice of Weapon (they feel like one album to me) 8. Born Into This 9. Dreamtime 10. Beyond Good & Evil. Special mention to the original "Pure Cult" compilation which is a fantastic release! Cheers.
Fun fact: I was only familiar with the Cult up until Ceremony, so I've listened to the other half just recently, LOL. So, for now, my list is:
10. The Cult (1994) - 4,5 or 5/10 (For now, this album is pretty bland for me, but that might change in the future. Favorite songs: "Joy", "Sacred Life", "Be Free";)
9. Born into This (2007) - 7,5/10 (Favorite songs: "I Assassin", "Illuminated", "Savages", "Sound of Destruction";)
8. Dreamtime (1984) - 7,5 or 8/10 (Favorite songs: "Spiritwalker", "83rd Dream", "Butterflies", "Gimmick";)
7. Hidden City (2016) - 8,5/10 (Favorite songs: "Dance the Night", "G O A T", "Avalanche of Light", "Heathens";)
6. Beyond Good and Evil (2001) - 9/10 (I was really surprised when I first listened to it, 'cos this album is the heaviest they ever done, and WHAT A BANGER this album is! Favorite songs: "The Saint", "Rise", "Take the Power", "Breathe";)
5. Love (1985) - 9 or 9,5/10 (Favorite songs: "Brother Wolf, Sister Moon", "Hollow Man", "She Sells Sanctuary" (My favorite song from them), "Black Angel";)
4. Choice of Weapon (2012) - 9,5/10 (Favorite songs: "Honey from a Knife" (My favorite song from the modern era), "The Wolf", "For the Animals", "Amnesia";)
3. Sonic Temple (1989) - 9,5/10 (Favorite songs: "Sun King", "Fire Woman", "American Horse", "New York City";)
2. Electric (1987) - 10/10 (One of the best hard rock albums ever, period. Favorite songs: "Peace Dog", "Aphrodisiac Jacket", "King Contrary Man", "Outlaw";)
1. Ceremony (1991) - 10/10 (This album is, IMO, the most interesting and unique they've done, because of the tribal/Native American elements they've included, which makes this album an amazing one! Favorite songs: "Ceremony", "Wild Hearted Son", "Earth Mofo", "Heart of Soul", "Sweet Salvation" (My favorite ballad from them);)
My number 2 and 1 were really hard to pick, I had to consider either the consistency (Electric) or the variety (Ceremony) to be the #1. Even though I've picked the variety, this might change next week or even tomorrow, LOL.
Cool this. Haven't heard all their albums but really dig Choice of Weapon. Looking forward to the ranking Miles!
Wish I could stay up for that but I got to truck in the morning
1. Electric
2. Sonic Temple
3. Love
4. Dream time
5. Hidden City their last one got a whole lot stronger
6. Choice of weapon
7. Beyond Good and evil
8. Born into this
9. Ceremony
10. The cult self-titled
They're 90s work just wasn't very strong to me after Sonic Temple but it was okay I'm glad to have the whole discography
Billy Duffy is my favourite guitar player. Some of the stuff he does on the love album are very Hendrix like in my opinion and the guitar solo on the song “love” is a top 10 solo for me. Very underrated player.
Fantastic show
Haven't listened to Cult in years but the albums that immediately come to mind are Electric, Sonic Temple, Love & 94''s The Cult (underrated)
I'm really happy you finally did a ranking show on The Cult!! :) A pretty underrated band. I'm definitely a "goth" period Cult fan, although I love Sonic Temple - not a single bad song on it! I remember back then lot of people from the alternative camp complained about Cult becoming one more "hair" band with this record.
"LOVE" All the way, and it's never really been close.
One of those great albums that grabs you at the beginning and doesn't let you go until the dead wax of side 2. Full of good shimmering riffs, catchy and/or hypnotic numbers and Ian Astbury at the very top of his game.
But it's the stunning, gothic, emotionally-tinged 'songs' that allow him to shine the way he does throughout this record (eg "Big Neon Glitter," "Love," "Brother Wolf, Sister Moon," "Revolutuon," "Nirvana") all great tracks. "Hollow Man" as well! And the two hits, "Rain" and esp. "She Sells Sanctuary" are both impactful and highly memorable singles. Overall, LOVE is their highwatermark album, and the reason I became a Cult fan in 1986.
Outside of that, I've always liked the S/T, 1994 album quite a bit. Whether it leans on alt. rock or not, the material is strong. I dig the songs. Very good and unique LP. I might rate that one 2nd.
Well, that or "ELECTRIC," which, although AC/DC derivative, is a good record, including some visceral, effective tunes, including the excellent "Love Removal Machine" *Absolutely have to nix "Born to Be Wild" though. Uuugggh. The rest of it though, top shelf Cult.
So that would be the Top 3 for me.
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Others:
The "DREAMTIME" LP is decent, but a bit too loose/not focused/unrefined (just weren't there yet) "Spiritwalker" is pretty much the highlight for me. I do agree with Martin that, "I'm glad they made it." I personally love The Cure, Siouxsie, Bauhaus, etc. This Dreamtime album does "not" compete with that, but it's cool that they were within that kind of artistic mindset. Their next album though, would compete, bigtime! As said, the quality jump from Dreamtime to LOVE was monumental.
"CEREMONY" is okay. Pretty decent, and I liked it alright when it came out (even bought the "White EP" as well) But over the years, it's kinda just sat there on the shelf. I'll have to reevaluate, b/c I haven't listened to it in maybe 19 years.
"Beyond Good and Evil" ? I don't know. I bought it new in 2000. Popped it in that day, and ran screaming from the speakers. Not due to the music/songs (which I think are good) so much as the overt, mind numbing brickwall mastering and quasi-harsh EQ. I like my music with some dynamics and this ain't got it. Not an indictment of the music though. Just not an easy listen, sonically. You can't crank this stuff when it's all the same level...and music should be able to be cranked! *I do also have a general aversion to certain albums of this time, when it seemed there was an intentional kind of de-tuned "over heaviness" going on. And for me, when it's so intentionally over-heavy, it's not heavy. So I "intentionally" didn't capitalize it's title up there.
Finally, "SONIC TEMPLE" (the MTV album) *Just not for me* I don't like the look of the band here (like they just fell out of 1989's "accepted hair and clothing" closet, located at the business offices of MTV) and the music/songs seem like they did too.
Couple tracks I like okay, but this is nowhere near the dark, cool, catchy & hypnotic "LOVE". Sonic Temple, for me (although much better than most of the lame hair metal which surrounded it), is one of the more overrated and underwhelming LPs of that Godforsaken era. --- I get it for late comers though. You can't help your age... and, you know, if that goofy, sterilized, big hair, fake drum commercial MTV thing (w/shoulder pads) worked for ya.
So again, top 3:
LOVE (1985) All day. #1
THE CULT (1994) #2
ELECTRIC (1987) #3
Marc
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Love, Electric and Sonic Temple. The Golden Cult triunvirat.
Great show! Loved how each of your number 1 is different. I haven't heard all of their stuff so this would be my top 5
Love
Beyond good and evil
Sonic temple
Choice of weapon
Electric
Out of these I like the first two quite a bit and Sonic temple is solid but the rest are ok. They are a band that I could be really happy with a best of collection.
Very hard band to pigeon hole always love LOVE but only just started exploring the other albums. What an album the cult is 94 unbelievably good.
1) Hidden City
2) Beyond Good and Evil
3) Love
4) Sonic Temple
5) Ceremony
6) Born Into This
7) Electric
Right on ! The Cult gets some LOVE .
Fantastic discussion 👌
Awesome band 💪
Still love the Holy Barbarians album Cream, sadly forgotten.
Oh God .....thanx Pete , thanx Martin .
1. Love ( that sound of guitar is unique )
2. Cult 1994 .
3. Ceremony ( White , If , and Indian are 3 best Cult songs )
4. Sonic Temple
5. Beyond Good and Evil
6 . Dreamtime
7. Hidden City
8 . Electric
9 . Choice of Weapon
10 . Born Into This
1. Love
2. Electric
3. Beyond Good and Evil
4. Hidden City
5. Sonic Temple
6. Choice of Weapon
7. Dreamtime
8. Ceremony
9. The Cult
10. Born Into This
Great show. Been waiting for this for a while. I thought maybe you all would have different picks. IMO that just shows how good a catalog they actually have. Most rankings end up agreeing on the top 2, maybe just flip flopped. But this one you all were different except 2 agreed on the number 2. This one was really hard for me to pick the order of the top 4 or 5 favs but I gave it a shot. After switching my order a dozen times here’s what I went with.
10- Dream Time
9- Born Into This
8- Choice Weapons
7- Hidden City
6- Sonic Temple
This is where the struggle began
5- Electric
4- Beyond Good and Evil
3- Love
2- The Cult
1- Ceremony (White and Wonderland are FANTASTIC songs) Wonderland is a song I thought for the episode you did on best songs ending an album.
What I love about The Cult is how they change just enough from album to album yet keep enough of there sound to where you know it is them when you hear a song. That’s what made this ranking so hard for me because every album kills in its own right. I love how their music , singing style and lyrics just fit together so well that when you listen it’s like you are actually in the scene that they are creating. Love it. Good job all four of you on this one!!!
Ceremony is still the Cult album I play the most.
Updated list since Under the Midnight Sun released. Peace would’ve easily been my favorite album by them if they didn’t scratch the record.
1. Sonic Temple
2. Love
3. Ceremony
4. Dreamtime
5. Under The Midnight Sun
6. Beyond Good and Evil
7. Electric
8. The Cult
9. Born Into This
10. Choice of Weapon
11. Hidden City
Awesome show! The Cult ranking was a long due indeed. :)
For me:
1. Electric
2. Love
3. Beyond Good and Evil (love the heaviness on this album)
4. The Cult (at first I hated it, but it grew on me over the years)
5. Dream time
6. Choice of Weapon
7. SonicTemple
8. Born Into This
9. Ceremony
10. Hidden City
This is an impossible discography for me to rank being that The Cult are one of my all time favorite bands. Not a bad album on the list. I can however do my top five favorites and my two least favorites.
Top Five:
1. Ceremony
2. Love
3. Beyond Good and Evil
4. Sonic Temple
5. The Cult
Least Favorites:
9. Born Into This ( The bonus CD had the best stuff on it IMO)
10. Electric
Again, impossible for me to rank 6-8
Thank you guys for the great episode.
P.S. "Sonic Temple" does not sound dated.
I like your list. 'Ceremony' is my favorite and I don't even own 'Electric' - because I have 'Peace' and I like that more psychedelic version much better.
Top 5 bands ever god have I been waiting on this AMAZING PETE first band I seen live first band I got into going to see them in glasgow next month with Alice Cooper fantastic
Saw the cult at Radford university , they were awesome ! Love em !
Great episode! Always wish the track "Libertine" made the US edition of Beyond Good and Evil. Ceremony is a magic album, there is a deep, special vibe underlying that one. Great band, loved the convo and different takes.
Totally agree, "Libertine" and "Groove Co" are my Favorite songs of theirs and neither are on a normal album. Only 3 weeks now until the new Cult album joins their catalogue.
One of my all time favourite bands. 1) Love, 2)Sonic Temple 3)Electric 4) Beyond Good and Evil 5) Dreamtime 6) Choice of Weapon 7)Ceremony 8) The Cult 9) Born Into This 10)Hidden City
Never been a fan, never listen to any of them. So what happens, out of curiosity, hearing you guys talk abt the album Beyond Good and Evil being heavy, gave it a listen and loved it. Will be checking the whole discography now.
Electric should be next.
OMG.
Imagine just finding out about The Cult. You are so lucky. There are hundreds of songs to listen to.
Enjoy the experience‼️
For sure you won't waste your time!
Your gonna love them!
The new Cult album comes out in 3 weeks. It has been 4 months now since you first heard them, what have you listened to and what do you like?
Nothing beats finding a SOT ranking ya somehow missed of a favorite band. This was great and agree with something from each panel member, agree with Jamie on everything Sonic Temple, with Pete on Beyond Good & Evil, Guitar Hack on Ceremony (was a late bloomer fer me) and absolutely agree with Martin on the underappreciated Hidden City \m/ My current rankings complete with a fave deep cut recommendation...
1. Sonic Temple (Soldier Blue)
2. Beyond Good And Evil (True Believers)
3. Ceremony (If)
4. Electric (Outlaw)
5. Love (Hollow Man)
Pretty much my favorite band,been waiting for this one for a long time.....thanks for doing it!I'll say this about The Cult,I think they have the strongest selection of b-sides and non-album songs of any rock band....they just don't write bad songs.
Great show guys. I've been a fan of The Cult since day one. Seen them live many times. Here's my top ten...
1. Sonic Temple
2. Ceremony
3. Hidden City
4. Electric
5. Love
6. Beyond Good and Evil
7. Weapon of Choice
8. Born into This
9. The Cult
10. Dreamtime
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I love all the albums. Here is my rankings of albums. 1. Sonic Temple 2. Electric 3. Love 4. Ceremony 5. Choice Of Weapon 6. Hidden City 7. Dreamtime 8. The Cult 9. Beyond Good And Evil 10. Born Into This
Agree on most picks/ranks!!! Hidden City is a gem. I'd just switch The Cult with Born into this on your ranking.
I think Guitar Hack nailed it and his choices/ranking is the best representation of the Cult's catalogue but I'm a guitarist so maybe its a guitar thing? It definitely is because it's really Billy who makes the Cult one of my favorite groups. 3. Beyond Good and Evil 2 Sonic Temple 1 I love LOVE. Thanks
I think that Fields Of The Nephilim deserve an album ranking too.
I dig that band alot, but I doubt these guys are even familiar with them.
Love Fields of the Nephilim and they fit well with the early Cult releases and the goth touches. Would be great to hear Pete and the gang talk about them.
I’ve waiting for this
wow...love you gentleman showing the cult some love
One other thing about The Cult is that so many of their album and song titles would make great band names.
Love is an amazing album, and a great guitar album.
"Love" is their best album by far.
Also had great extended 12' versions and b-sides, "Wolf Child Blues", "Zap City" ....
ceremony is their finest album they ever made and the album that as a teenager got me into this amazing and fantastic band sonic temple, love and electric are just dynamite
Never understood why Ceremony gets kinda forgotten, it's such a great album (to my ears of course!).
@@andywitch666 yeah me to and it features some of Billy Duffy's finest guitar work especially that majestic solo on white
@@andywitch666 Grunge time with lot of younger bands with new sound . ( 1991 )
@@aleksandarfrick2656 Yes, you're right, but I was meaning between The Cult fan-base.
I loved this episode Pete...The Cult just got you guys goin' different directions in a good way which is pretty cool. The Cult really evolved from a Goth new wave thing to a heavy rocking band. I never knew where to categorize this band when they came out in the 80's. My number 1 is still Electric! Jamie is right though...the Born To Be Wild cover was just painful and sad. Sonic Temple is my runner up...I got to go back and listen to that Self Titled Album and Beyond Good and Evil. By the way Martin I have to defend Love Removal Machine lyric. No offense I think it's smart and pretty cool...kinda makes you think what kind of a machine it is. The song makes me imagine that its as a physical trippy machine where you stick a human inside and remove their love...LOL. Keep up the good work guys! More ranking vids!
I have to agree with Martin, Hidden City is one of the best cult records, top two for me!
Love is an immortal record, one of the best 80's records.
I’ve been a Cult fanatic ever since 1985, when I first saw the video of She Sells Sanctuary...
The Cult are among my top 10 favorite bands of all time, I have all the (numerous) outtakes, countless bootleg live recordings etc etc.
I like all their albums a lot - and some of them I absolutely adore.
Ranking the albums (apart from the top 3) is quite difficult - and I’m probably not very “objective”, because I have not listened to their post 1994 albums as much as I have (literally devoured!) the first six albums. But I’ll give it a shot :
1. LOVE (the perfect hybrid of post punk / alternative rock and hard rock! Hats off to Mr. Guitar Hack for his analysis on the album ! For me it’s a PERFECT album)
2. SONIC TEMPLE (another perfect album, actually the only album that I listened to five times from start to finish during the first two days after I had bought it, I can’t forget that !)
3. ELECTRIC (a real treat for us hard/metal rockers of 1987 - Wild Flower is the best AC/DC song that AC/DC never recorded! I wish they didn’t do the BTBWild cover...)
4. THE CULT (s/t 1994)
5. DREAMTIME (yes, I also love their “goth” era, including their Death Cult days)
6. CEREMONY (less than half I really love, the rest is OK)
7. HIDDEN CITY (probably the most memorable from their 21st century albums)
8. BEYOND GOOD AND EVIL
9. CHOICE OF WEAPON
10. BORN INTO THIS (maybe the roughest from the later albums, not always in a good way)
I saw them on the Electric tour back in the day and they were fabulous - and that probably colours my perception...
For me top 3 are:
3. Sonic Temple
2. Love
1. Electric
Great Cult LPs:
1. Dreamtime: IMHO it is brilliant...far and away their best, a masterpiece of the era...
2. Love: lush and gorgeous, although kinda one-dimensional
3. Sonic Temple: production is HUGE, songs are vary from brilliant to cheeseball
4. Hidden City: mature with great atmosphere...songs are consistently good throughout
5. Beyond Good and Evil: heavy and unique, although again, kinda one-dimensional
However, the remainder of their catalog is pretty spotty to me:
6. The Cult
7. Choice of Weapon
8. Ceremony
9. Electric
10. Born Into This
I even took notes. Thanks for this.
1-Love / 2-Electric (it's a mood thing-my top position always changes between those 2) / 3-Sonic Temple (I hear Martin and kinda agree with him, but those songs are hard to forget) / 4-The Cult (it could be in the 4th position if it were shorter) 5-Choice of Weapon / 6-Dreamtime (too many memories) / 7-Beyond... / 8-Ceremony / 9-Born Into This / 10-Hidden City (maybe it's better than Born into This: it's not cringeworth at all - and there are some cringeworth moments on Born Into This).
The Manor Sessions is technically not an album of new material, but everyone should give it a listen, because it's how Electric should have sounded.
I have, and I think Electric is much better. The original versions are to me kind of turgid; they work better stripped down as they were on Electric.
Yeah man I totally agree, for the purpose of this ranking, "Peace" is my number one pick. "Electric" is absolutely not better than Peace. Electric is slick. No disrespect to Rick Rubin but his imprint is overwhelming. He did it on Danzig's first album as well and in some ways that may have put them on the map. So maybe that was a necessary step.
This was a great one.
Great to see this episode get done. Now I'm going to bug you to do Monster Magnet. Top 3 for me Love, Electric, Sonic Temple. Also Citizens is a standout track that nobody mentioned
I'd love to do Monster Magnet
Was at work earlier here’s my ranking
1. Sonic temple
2. The cult
3. Love
4. Dreamtime
5 choice of weapons
6. Beyond good and evil
7.electric
8.born into this
9. Ceremony
10.hidden city
Fantastic show waited ages it seems but so worth it thanks guys really enjoyed it
Shout out to the variations in choices shows not a bad album in there band changed my life thanks guys 🏴👍🏼
Nice I love thid band, but I must say I have only heard 5 of their albums
1 Sonic Temple
2 Love
3 Electric
4 Ceremony
5 The Cult
Great albums in my opinion
Saw The CULT 5 x in NYC/ NJ area over the years. Own entire discography. Saw them open for AEROSMITH / 2️⃣0️⃣0️⃣1️⃣ MEADOWLANDS NJ. Front row, was cut” by Steve Tyler’s rings after pulling away from holding my hand singing. lol Great episode gentleman. 👍💯
In ADDITION, best of HEALTH to the LEGEND” CHRIS ALO. 👍💯
As a long time Cult fan I love all their albums in a different way, but for me Beyond Good and Evil was the album that took the cult to another level for me. Plus it was a sort of a come back album for them. Tons of marketing for that album back in the day.
Thanks again
What an amazing band The Cult is! Love, Electric and Sonic Temple are 1,2 and 3 for me, by far. The order between them differs from day to day, depending on my mood.
My older brother had Electric on vinyl when we were teenagers in the mid-1980s and I heard it through a divider wall first, then I "borrowed" it occasionally. My first The Cult album was Sonic Temple on cassette. 👍
1) Sonic Temple
2) Electric
3) Love
4) Beyond Good and Evil
5) Born Into This
6) Dreamtime
7) Choice of Weapon
8) Hidden City
9) Under the Midnight Sun
10) The Cult
11) Ceremony
Now I have to go find that stuff on CD.always liked the cult alot.i just have a lot on cassette tape
The Cult is one of my top 10 favourite bands of all time. This is how I rank their albums:
1. Love (1985)
2. The Cult (1994)
3. Beyond Good And Evil (2001)
4. Ceremony (1991)
5. Sonic Temple (1989)
6. Dreamtime (1984)
7. Electric (1987)
8. Choice Of Weapon (2012)
9. Born Into This (2007)
10. Hidden City (2016)
Great live band as well. Saw them in New Orleans in 86 with Guns N Roses as their opening band.
I’ve never heard Choice of Weapon or Hidden City so I’ll rank the other 8;
1. Sonic Temple
2. Electric
3. Love
4. Ceremony
5. Beyond Good and Evil
6. The Cult
7. Born Into This
8. Dreamtime
Maybe todays the day: th-cam.com/video/kmb7POSm5kE/w-d-xo.html
One of my top bands ever
Funny that Sonic Temple ranks so high here, that album and “Ceremony” and “The Cult” were the 3 albums by them that we had the most copies used in the record/cd shop I worked, people sold them in droves, those three albums were like the plague only a few years after their releases, in the case of “The Cult” album straight out of the gate . We rarely ever had people coming in to sell “Love” and it rarely stayed long if we had a used copy, same with “Electric” to a lesser extent as “Love”.
Love all their releases even the two first albums and the self titled one but Sonic Temple is unbeatable. Their most recent stuff is quite amazing too
the only issue with the last two albums was that the CD master suffers from the loudness wars.
love the songs but I can't play them loud with fatiguing my ears quickly
I often Completely disagree with Martin but I always enjoy what he brings to the discussion. For example, he ranks Dreamtime low on the list but points out how much he loves that The Cult came from such a beginning, i.e. Siouxsee, The Mission, etc. That is just some really constructive insight into where the band came from and where they stand as a whole. PETE, I love your team and even envy you for having these kinds of wonderful (and different) friends. Thank you for sharing with the world!
For me the best by far were the early albums: Dreamtime (1984) and Love (1985), and also the pre-Cult albums Southern Death Cult (1983) and Death Cult - Brothers Grimm EP (1983)...I grew up on post-punk and gothic rock in the early 80's.
GREAT SHOW!!! At different points along the way, I completely disagreed (and agreed) with all four of you... but you all justified your opinions, didn't talk down to your audience, and for that I totally respect what you did here. Jamie Lazlo did a brilliant job of defending his No. 1 contrarian pick (which, FOR ME, is totally incomprehensible). It's obvious he loves the self-titled and that's cool as hell! Music is subjective, duh. For what it's worth, here's my list:
THE GREAT
1. Love (I love Love! A confident step up from Dreamtime.)
2. Sonic Temple (I bought it the day it came out on the strength of the first single, Fire Woman. I totally agree with Jamie, this was something new and exciting that was sorely needed back in 1989!)
3. Electric (the rocking version of the band emerges!)
4. Dreamtime (to me, The Cult is a post-punk band at heart... but one that is capable of rocking out, obviously.)
THE GOOD
5. Beyond Good And Evil (The Cult... but heavier!)
6. Ceremony (Sonic Temple II. Pretty good... just not as good as the previous record it tries to emulate.)
7. Born Into This
8. Choice Of Weapon
THE NOT SO GOOD
9. Hidden City
10. The Cult (this one just won't click for me... and I've tried many times. For the first time, it sounds like they're chasing trends. It just feels inauthentic, in my opinion).
Hey....thanks, Jesse!
Wasn’t really into them until I saw them open up for Metallica- circa Justice tour. They put on a great show.
Love
Electric
Sonic Temple
Plus I cheated and have greatest hits disc
Favorite:
1. Ceremony
2. Love
3. Beyond Good and Evil (this might be the BEST one ~ for sure the heaviest)
4. Dreamtime
5. Hidden City
6. Peace
7. Choice of Weapon
8. Sonic Temple
9. Black Sheep
10. Born into This
You guys need to get together to discuss the New Cult album. I will help you out here to get you started. It is Very Good, and the title song should be a new Bond Film. The problem is, it’s Too Short. ‘Butterfly’ and the title song could easily be at least 8 minutes each. ‘Impermanence’ is too short too, as it fades too quickly, giving the feeling that we are being cheated out of the rest of the song. Why can’t these producers just let these songs play out to their conclusion, even a ratty one at that. Or just end the song like you would on stage. The other problem is it may be their worst recorded album. Many of the songs sound like they were recorded in a cave. On headphones, it sounds like it was recorded from behind the bass amp. Brooding is okay but the bass seems to drown out the vocals to the point where it is not easy to understand what is being sung.
1. Love
2. Sonic Temple
3. Electric
I agree Love is #1.
Seeing as Bon Jovi got mentioned a few times, what about ranking the Bon Jovi albums? I've been a fan since I saw them support Kiss in the UK in 1984, still a fan to this day.