@@buzzingbee6380 don't give in. I have since met what I belive to be a nice man, but with my co dependance make me questions, not a bad thing. All I can say is if you feel manic and have no boundaries RUN AWAY as fast as you can!.
Does it really matter if they know they are hurting you or not? The point is they are hurting you and you don't deserve to be hurt so someone else feels in control. You deserve to be happy and emotionally healthy!
When someone is cheating, they know damn well that they're hurting you. When someone purposely stonewalls you, they know damn well that they're hurting you. When someone plans a fight or rage attack , on your birthday or holiday, just to ruin things, they know damn well that they're hurting you. The difference is they lack remorse so they don't care. The ex abuser used to test me by purposely trying to hurt me, in different manners, to see how I'd react and if I'd still stay. (As malignant narcissists do) All premeditated and thought out so yes they know and they enjoy watching you suffer. Just watch that famous smile or smirk if they hurt you.... Its on purpose.
I agree...the malignant (!)narcs do know most of the time what they are doing!! The sick behaviour and tricks like stealing or damage your stuff, buy deliberately wrong groceries, point the wrong way etc...These types are not brain less or just acting instinctively (compulsive) for they can switch their sick behaviour on and off!
@@annekerotterdam7499 I totally agree with you. He was like that he purposely did things to me to set me off. I thought bc he didn't care or pay attention. They are sadistic to the core and yes they can moderate their behavior. I've seen it many times throughout the years. I told him to treat me with dignity and respect or dont bother me with your petty BS. I'm not a masochist .
Y A, what you failed to hear & you're failing to understand is that they are the center of their universe, not you! You're assuming their every act has your reaction in mind & it just doesn't.
They DO enjoy your pain. They CANNOT even contain their absolutely delight at your confusion, distress, hurt and anguish. It spills right out through their smiles, smirks, twinkling eyes and smug satisfaction. H.G I agree with everything except, that they don't enjoy seeing your anguish. They DO. They DO. They Do. Saying they don't will cause empathic persons to continually forgive the N's mis-deeds, rather than accept the untenable, unhealthy and dangerous situation of being in a relationship with a Narc.
My narcissist ex told my relative that I was crying when we broke up, and my relative said my ex had a big smile on his face as he said it. The night that he dumped me, I mostly cried due to the physical pain of suffering from kidney stones that night; and I somewhat cried from that narcissist f*ck*r breaking up with me that same night. The thought of me crying after he cruelly discarded me put a big, stupid smile on his face.
As someone who is beginning to think I might be a narcissist i have to disagree. I don't know why I smile when i see someone uncomfortable. I don't think wow let's try to make this happen again. I just want to smile but I feel really bad for wanting to smile cause I know there pain isn't good. But for some reason it's funny. But it doesn't make me happy. I feel like a monster even typing that but it's the truth. His description of it is spot on. Shit happens and I just want to smile. I'm confused about why I want to smile cause it's not funny and I recognize that but I do. You as someone on the other side may think I enjoy the moment and am doing it on purpose but I'm not.
Myles you are an anomaly then. Most narcissists are very sadistic by nature. When my wife sees me in pain, she ABSOLUTELY enjoys it and it shows. I sure hope you plan to get help Myles if you are a narcissist because someday we all have to answer for sins.
You just strengthened my belief in your theory of these three distinct levels. The one I labeled as “midrange” checks every box. To this Goody Two Shoes, I am the narcissist, the drama queen who enjoys punishing him. He sees himself as such a good person and a helper that everything is someone else’s fault, sees any bad feelings as definitely coming from outside of himself. I felt that his gaslighting was not intentional so I became concerned about his memory and focus, calling it a moment of ADD, thinking he couldn’t recall because of distraction. Yet at work so focused and successful? He was so frustrating and draining because everything became a debate, and he doesn’t disengage with one as quickly as the lesser or the greater in my opinion. I felt he holds tighter to his supply because he didn’t have the easy charm to fall back on, was too concerned about his reputation as such a nice guy. Definitely more silent treatments, sulking, whining, so “misunderstood.” This is the category that I deem just drones on and on forever. Not physically abusive but condescending on a level from annoying to cutting. I feel this type will work the hardest to veil that they enjoy your pain. That you will hear more “Why do you hate me?” at this level.
I listened again, and I think I understand you are trying to convey they aren’t truly enjoying your pain, it just appears that way because they become so smug while power tripping? They’re teaching you a lesson that you obviously need. :)
Somebody's Falling You are right also mine 100% was midrange was discarded after 15 years sadly I miss him so much. Abusive moments were very scary though
Somebody's Falling. - Good Lord, you just described the one I was with! The whining, the sulking, the smugness, the putdowns and insults ( which he said were only to help me ), etc. - it just absolutely broke my spirit and wore me out.
I love you. You taught me alot HQ thanks for the teachings and I used you in my psychology final NPD got an A. You scared the hell out of my class w some of your videos lol but it got them interested cause people don't have a clue lol. Thanks for helping me pass the semester👍🏽
Another excellent video. Thank you. I owned one of these mid-rangers years ago. You, HG, are providing a great service. I don’t care if you get fuel from the comments. Keep ‘em coming!
As much as I do not want to agree with you regarding the concept that a Mid Ranger is not aware of what he/she is doing, my experience and my research proves your statements. My ex fiance became very predictable toward the middle and final end of the relationship. Whenever he felt "out of control" he became CONTROLLING. Everything was my fault or his boss' fault, or anyone's fault except his. To this day he "apologizes" for what he did (too many things to list) but ALWAYS accompanies the apology with a caveat. BUT if you had.... I would never have done... SPOT ON. I have never been a believer in the terms Empath or Super Empath either, but you have made a believer out of me. I fit all of the criterion of a Super Empath. When I finally fought back, I fought back HARD! He was even surprised. I got over it, and wanted peace over revenge. I now feel nothing but pity for my ex. I suffered a far worse childhood than he did, it was even on the news as I set a California legal precedent and sued my abusive parents back in the 80's! However, his childhood damaged him far worse than mine did me. I pray for him but ONLY at a distance. I also have been no contact or limited contact for 6 years. He was the ONLY man who tried to love my son with multiple special needs, at least until he realized that my son would never be cured. He was also there for me (even when we were no longer seeing one another) when my only family except for my son, mi hermanito bello (beautiful little brother) killed himself. I can not hate him, I feel nothing but sadness for him and indeed HG for you as well. I will NUNCA (NEVER) go back, and now that I know who and what I was dealing with, he no longer has any more power over me. He is older now, and is one of those "fading narcissists" that you spoke of in a video of the same name. He sits alone and surfs the internet. He has his porn, and his few VERY few now people that think he is a great if misunderstood fellow. I know who he is, but more importantly, I know who I AM now. I may have been chosen by him, but my lack of self caused me to CHOOSE to stay and try to love him, EVEN when I saw the red flags and painted them pink. I spent many years in a loveless sexless marriage with a man on the ASD spectrum. When I met the Mid Ranger SOMATIC! in my former life, I was ripe for the picking! I see that now, and I WILL NUNCA (NEVER) FORGET that now. Your videos are a great way for you to make amends even if you are not doing them for that reason. I will continue to pray for you HG and ALL people who are made into monsters by their parents or others from a GREAT distance, but GOD works well at any distance. Abrazos! Hugs!
The beast I was with must have been a higher level Narcopath because one day I realized I was watching him gleefully watch me suffer. I reviewed that difficult day and realized the ENTIRE day, EVERY moment was controlled and manipulated for the expressed purpose of torturing me. Exhausted and in shock, I finally got up to leave and as I was on my way out, he was the most peaceful and serene I had EVER seen him. This is not an exaggeration. He calmly, sweetly smiled, walked me out to my car and in a sweet, almost sing-song voice asked, "are you OK hon"? It was sickening. Did he know what he was doing? ABSOLUTELY. Not a doubt in my mind.
Excellent! Make absolute sense..... They act as per what they feeling, so you be good or bad, it is what they are feeling is what the tone of the conversation would be....well sounds like a very difficult spot for the narcissist and the receiver person of all this.... Thank you very much... More power and good wishes to you....
It’s like you just told my fortune of my past life events with my ex. I got an unapologetic apology that shifted the blame of why we didn’t work out on me, and all I could do was scoff at him for what was expected. I refuse to see him despite his threats of suing me for visitation of our children. I’m doing great now and my path is clear now without him.
I am not a narcissist but did not realize I was dealing with one so when she didn't tell me she was leaving and would just disappear in the middle of an event (or whatever was going on) or didn't care that we had mutual responsability to the animals (we each owned horses seperately) I started doing the exact same things she would do. When she would rage at me for it I would remind her that yesterday she had done exactly that thing and tell her "I care exactly as mich about you and your feelings as you do about mine. How does it feel to you?" This wasn't out of the blue. It was after months of telling her she had hurt my feeling and left me in impossible positions by randomly taking off. Her rage and cruelty became almost unbearable before she finally had had enough of her own treatment. The one thing I would do was hit her although she would brag about how hard she kicked me in my sleep. I wouldn't sleep with her again and her rage at that caused the "I'm done with your abuse" discarding phase. Which didn't last long because I just said "ok, good". She hated her behavior reflected back at her. And no I was not smiling. It hurt that she didn't understand STILL why I was hurt. She was only full of rage.
They are always justified in their abusive behaviors.... hence the blame on the victim....even when I found him sexting and cheating he told me... Great...you have now ruined the relationship.... it's a maladaptive defense mechanism at the expense of the victims sanity.
This is fascinating to me. This describes many traits of the narc I was dealing with but I think he was even more sinister. I think I’ll get my answers in the next video.
I don’t hate my narcissistic ex. I know it is not his fault that he is the way he is. But I am grateful to have the knowledge that it simply would not be worth it to engage with him if he so happened to ever contact me again.
A mid-range narcissist is more instinctual than an active decision maker in how they prey on others. They know what they're doing, but don't have control over it or understand it. A herd dog knows how to herd animals with very little training from birth. It's something they know to do without thinking about it. That is what a mid-range narcissist does. In a way, they herd people's emotions to control them. Having self awareness/higher thoughts, unlike a herd dog, means they won't accept the authority of a shepherd to control their inner killer instinct. A herd dog will eventually submit to it's baser preditory instincts and eat it's herd without a shepherd to rein it in.
It so makes sense , my narc really really thought he was a good person and all the women were cheaters. I often was so confused by that, he must have an awareness of some kind about himself, but no, not a bit. He thought he was left alone constantely, never understood it was his behaviour, it couldn’t be, he was the good guy
Spot on! Congratulations for your work. One of my co-workers is actually a covert narcissist woman. Fortunately I did zero contact before I knew about her mechanisms, but I was confused a lot because she wanted to be a fake-friend previously and some of her mind trickery worked. She is a mid ranger, she has hoovered me about 3 times through 3rd parties, looking for reactions, but I silent treat her back (not even looking at her / so totally ignoring her presence) and so far fortunately nobody is interested in her that much...
My upper mid-range narcissistic ex was always concerned with “self-preservation” (he always used those terms). At the time, a 9 year-old little girl and a woman who genuinely and deeply loved him “victimized” him because he accused me of loving my child “too much”. He felt left out or like I couldn’t love him because I loved my daughter-no matter how good I treated him. He is intelligent and he is a big guy and he is a former professional medal-winning martial artist in Asia; but emotionally he was a big baby. At that time, I could not figure him out.
Lashanda Williams: In the 4 years that we were together, I never got the slightest impression or gut feeling that he was a sicko or pedophile. Instead, I sensed that he could become abusive towards us because of his continuous and never-ending jealousy that I would not prioritize him over my child. However, anything is possible with a narcissist; your comment creeps me out and now I am really glad that he is gone. I am lucky that he left.
I know you weren’t asking me but I do diagnose personality disorders in my profession and I think Watts is a sociopath - Someone with Antisocial Personality Disorder, and yes they are Narcissistic to the core but with added evil of breaking laws of society and having Machevelianism. Everything they do to harm and manipulate others for their own personal gain, and killing the wife and kids to get them out of the way so he can be with someone else? Is there anything more evil than killing those you are supposed to protect and not only having zero remorse for it but blaming the victims? This goes way beyond Narcissism into a sociopath hence my diagnosis of Antisocial PD. There are also malignant Narcissists who are very abusive and no conscience as well. Ted Bundy was all of the above. The symptoms and behaviors found in these diagnoses overlap.
Even more incredulously, they tell you they've cheated with another adult , fully expecting THAT gem to icepick you AFTER you've found the lesbian/aunt -13 yr old niece porn stash.(and it IS definitely a pathological stash.) My ex did , and I laughed , followed by a snort of derision and a , "oh don't be ridiculous, you've only got the hots for 13 year olds, and lesbian porn. " (He got the opposite and it stopped him mid rant , once he realised this hoover tactic was a dud , he dropped it from his repertoire xD)
Wow.. Blows my mind. Thank you so much for responding. I’ve been trying to understand this for a while. My ex narc cheated on me during my pregnancy, and keeps saying it was my fault he he seeked her in the first place, and even though they were physical with eachother, because they didn’t have sex, it wasn’t cheating.. Yet if I were to even approve another guys friend request on social media, he would accuse me of cheating. How does this make any sense, do they not understand logic?
@@aantae They play by their rules, their logic. You and your logic (nor societal mores) do not matter. Does a mouse, it's logic or it's thoughts and feelings matter to a cat? You are nothing more than a plaything, to be discarded when you "stop working" the way they expect you to. And if you don't pull finger and do as you are told and conditioned to do, out come the knives, figurative,emotional, and in the most unfortunate and terrifying situations, actual. Then it's hell to pay by you, caused by them without an ounce of remorse or regret for their ensuing actions. (and for the outcomes of said actions they shall forever remain blameless.) And the fact that you're pregnant? You guessed it : "So what."
Oh they most certainly do! And it gives them a cheap thrill. One particularly nasty narcissist I have kept my distance from actually went out of her way to track me down just to send me a "I found you!" message with an attached photo of themselves looking absolutely evil! A horrible picture. No smile, unfriendly and cold. Absolutely bat, 💩 crazy!
I'm not able to wrap my head around the "don't know they're lying" thing. So, take the example of the narcissist cheating on his spouse, knows the general population would see it is wrong, and thus hides it. Is the lie that, "no, I'm not having an affair," that he tells his spouse who inquires, included in the kind of lie you're talking about? Cause if that's really believed, that he's not lying in that moment, if that's not some kind of severe mental handicap or disorder or delusion, the kind that this type of narcissist seems far to competent and functional in the world to have... then is it that the perceptions from the narcissists perspective on what's true and what's a lie are just totally different from how I think of what's true and what's a lie? If the narcissist says, "no, I'm not having an affair," surely he doesn't in that instance stop believing that he left the house the other night and slept with a woman who wasn't his wife? What does it mean to him, to believe he's not lying, to believe his own lie?
Another Rhyme Another rhyme should have been written for this space About somebody I thought would be genuine and real, But I came to notice things without grace And it seems I was offered to take a sick deal... As I think of it I fell for it like a child And finally I called it off as my recompence... I found out by God's will a mask that can't hide, Before I got totally buried in the flower dance I am forever thankful to my friends who have listened to me!
Well,since they are " pre- programmed" to do much damage to those who love them; they need to remain single. Whatever the reason they cannot help themselves; abuse is abuse. It is never justified. Never. Even small children know right from wrong. I believe allowing strong consequences due to wrong,hurtful,dangerous actions is required. They need a wake up call to their false self.
Do you suggest to block every social media telephone whatsapp?? I did last week and I feel better light and free but my question is :do they suffer? Are they upset about that?
Whoa... empathic narcissist... what? Please go into further details about it. I've questioned so many of my decisions and choices believing someone else to be a narcissist but it might be me???
Oh this is my husband description in 100%, I really want him to realise this, who he is and what his doing. Has it any sens? According to what I learn already, I think not. Thank you for an eyeopening videos.
Yeah I was told I'm the first domineering woman he has ever had...wtf! I honestly do not feel jealous of the others and view them as weak woman AND I am Not that
No. This makes no sense to me. Bc sometimes the mid-ranger hurts others (folllowed by a smirk of course) without a bad Situation for happend. I rember a mid-ranger(Not a greater narc), makes friends with pll, just to make them suffer and smirks whenever they suffer. But these ppl are good to him! IT is often not a response of a narcistic injury!! He just loves the pain and plans in advance triangulation How do they justify that? They must have an conviction of their inner Darkness. Do they really think that they are good Persons Tudor? I doup that... You even said in a video that all narcs sense the darknis within. They must know they are a lil Bad ppl. You said we should ask u. So thats why i am asking👍
U also said that the mid-ranger could stop his minipiluativ behavior and that he has an awareness that he is diffrent. So isnt there a litle awarness there?
They are aware, you cannot hide what you cannot see. When he says they see nothing wrong with what they are doing, why do they hide it? If you believe what's said here then an NPD doesn't have enough planning and self awareness to organise crossing the road. Always remember that NPDs don't want to blame anyone they only want to be faultless, because if they have a fault then the black and white thinking kicks in and then they start devaluing themselves
Omg I recognize a narc in myself😱 I can be sooo anoyed when I call someone and he doesn’t answer. If I see him later I have to overcome myself and act nice, but I am really annoyed.
I appreciate your insight, I just can’t help but wonder if you believe that your behavior will backfire on you? And do you think you would like to change your thinking?
I have a question. When the midranger reads a lot about narcissism and recognises himself but does not want to change (maybe because he didn’t hit the point of an identity crisis or something), does he become a greater?
Does a narcissistic injury / ignited (or cold) fury equals negative fuel? If so, would repeated narcissistic injuries whilst not providing any (or minimal) fuel dissuade a mid-ranger from seeking contact/interaction? I guess the real question is whether this would constitute a form of 'pain conditioning' that could work on a person with NPD keeping him/her away.
@@KnowingtheNarcissist I just bought the book. This is so eye openning. Your story is so very visual and the characters of the mother and the oncle are so very well presented as the covert and overt... so informative abd scary at the same time. I just dodged a bullet not getting tricked into giving a kid to my narc ex... the smearing campain is on it's way. What would you suggest for that?
I have a question does it always have to be an.empathic person and a narcissit ,some couples have narsissistic traits and the game goes on but for not long maybe because they see eachothers skims
Hg, Using your example regarding the mid ranger and the telephone calls to the wife. He paints her black due to being wounded by her (lack of attention?) because she did not returned his calls then he views her through a black lens. Why would he be incapable of saying "I called you a few times today but couldn't get hold of you?" would that be his paranoia ? Also, if these mid, upper mid rangers are intelligent then surely they can see how they act, respond and treat others?
1. The narcissism won't let the narcissist state that because as I explained in the video the narcissism causes the narcissist to see the spouse through a black lens and therefore the 'reasonable' response you have written is not an option. The narcissist has to provoke to assert superiority again. 2. No, this is the common mistake victims make through such an assumption. Again, you are looking at the situation from YOUR perspective (entirely understandable of course) but from the narcissist's perspective he sees it differently. It is about differing PERSPECTIVES and those perspectives are nothing to do with intelligence. Your emotional thinking makes you think 'he is intelligent, he must surely see he is wrong' so you keep trying to persuade and influence (and thus you continue to engage with the narcissist and feed your own addiction - which is what your ET wants you to do) .
Thank you Hg for replying. I'd like to ask another question, at what point does the partner get painted black? Using your phone call as reference, he rings once and no response, he rings a second time and still no response, then it hears nothings back from her. Would the criticism /wounding start to take an effect after the first phone call or would it be later on after he has heard nothing? This may seem like an odd question to ask although I am trying to break it down step by step to fully appreciate and understand this perspective. If after the first phone call he gets no response and the wounding takes place would it not be fair to say that there would be a l(let's call it) shift in mind set? This shift in mind set (painted black) has an effect on the narcissist and the out come is a negative one. So........ A, When this shift in mind set occurs is it something that can be felt in side the mind or the narcissist (an awareness) B, When this shift in mind set occurs it is a completely automated response caused by the conditioning and survival mechanisms put in place from childhood?
What do you suppose might happen if two narcissists were in a relationship together? How might their two similar personalities interact with one another?
When that happen, actually the other one is the "victim" (lesser dominant) of the other. Similar analogy with gay partners, they are both males, but one is the "male" (dominant), the other is "female" (submissive).
@knowingthenarcissist hg my ex narc now says he needed to see a therapist now cuz the pain of losing me. Fuel? Can you do a video on why he would go to one.
I have been no contact with my ex narc for 3 and a 1/2 months he has not tried to contact me in any way he did show up in a few places I frequent and then left. We live together on and off for 3 years the longest he stayed was 3 months before he took off to be with someone else in always came back here.. Why has there not been any Hoover if I was his primary Source?
What's the difference between borderline personality disorder and Narcissists? I've been diagnosed with BPD and Bipolar Disorder but sometimes I wonder if I am a Narcissist. My ex bf thinks I am. But I think he is the narcissist and I attract these kinds of people bc my father and mother are both narcissists. My whole damn family is. I've always felt victimized by men and now watching these videos im confused because you're saying midrangers don't know their narcissists. I thought I was above my family.
hg can i Contact you in any way cause i want to ask WHy my narc Treats me the worst Even he got Money and shelter from me and Nobody of His Harem gives him more Then me but i get Treat the worst it Doesnt make Sense
Will you please tell me this why does a narricissist hoover and hoover but never say a word he is hooveting me alot but just stands and Stares never calls just comes to my place of work and stares...WHY???
Lol, i knew it's some kind a self defense mechanism. Survival of the fittest from now on. Thanks HG. Btw, are you going to narrate you own book some day like promised or did you lied? Peace
You become a narcissist because you have a void in your heart. So you become dig a hole, cover a hole. Constant looking for fuel out of thirst. If your 'void' has been addressed once and for all, probably your tendency to harm others will be gone forever. God is the answer. Repent now.
T.h.tudor, you are not a mid ranger, so you know from expereience, we have experience too..they know what they are Doing. Maybe they justify everything, But they hurt u, even if u did nothing that would cause an injury to them.That is why most of the " mid rangers" who belive in God are soo afraid of hell!!! If they think they are good persons why are they so afraid of hell then. They know that what they are doing is wrong espeacially if they are doing it to pll who did nothing to them. Maybe you are trying to fool us all... And you read my two questions below but u choose not to answer. So why Do you say we shout comment here and ask u, if u Do not bother to answer us.
They know society, other people consider their actions wrong - hence hidden behaviours and the façade, but they do not accept they are wrong because of the rejection of accountability - listen to the video again to see the difference, it can be very subtle in some instances. The fear of hell as you describe is part of the façade.
@@KnowingtheNarcissist thank u for your answer!!! Yes i agree, they justify what ever they Do! But how can they justify hurting anoher person who is just nice to them causing them No narcistic injury? I mean: In these Situation they must sense their inner darknes. That is why it is so hard to be convinced that they think of themself as a good hearted Person all the time. But again thank u for answering!!! I know u Are a greater Narc, you know who you are and all the things u do. Bevor u die, you can ask God for forgivness. And He will forgive u even before your last breath. I know its hard to belive but Jesus still loves u and is waiting for YOU...you too will die one day..and stand infront of God. You CANT and WONT manipulate and escape GOD. GOD knows all your games and still loves u. You feel like a leader in this world but in reality you are a slave to the devil and satan is waiting for u to be so proud that you dont want to ask God for forgivness. And if u wont....man i dont want to be in your skin!!! Peace To you...! And thank u for the video u are doing, although its not your itention you are helping a Lot of PPl Word Wide!!
Knowing the Narcissist If that is so, why should we believe you? Is your work here not deemed to to be an act of benevolence? Why so?? Is this a fleeting act of righteousness???
The mid Range in my life may have been at 1 time a Very high Range.. but had terrible brain and head trauma due to getting his head bashed in.. 15 Years later I Believe he is just midrange
Thank you!
He told me that my messages to him were "abusive" (!).
What he did to provoke these messages was completely forgotten
Francesca C
So damn text book yuck!
@@buzzingbee6380 don't give in. I have since met what I belive to be a nice man, but with my co dependance make me questions, not a bad thing. All I can say is if you feel manic and have no boundaries RUN AWAY as fast as you can!.
Does it really matter if they know they are hurting you or not? The point is they are hurting you and you don't deserve to be hurt so someone else feels in control. You deserve to be happy and emotionally healthy!
When someone is cheating, they know damn well that they're hurting you. When someone purposely stonewalls you, they know damn well that they're hurting you.
When someone plans a fight or rage attack , on your birthday or holiday, just to ruin things, they know damn well that they're hurting you. The difference is they lack remorse so they don't care.
The ex abuser used to test me by purposely trying to hurt me, in different manners, to see how I'd react and if I'd still stay. (As malignant narcissists do)
All premeditated and thought out so yes they know and they enjoy watching you suffer. Just watch that famous smile or smirk if they hurt you....
Its on purpose.
I agree...the malignant (!)narcs do know most of the time what they are doing!! The sick behaviour and tricks like stealing or damage your stuff, buy deliberately wrong groceries, point the wrong way etc...These types are not brain less or just acting instinctively (compulsive) for they can switch their sick behaviour on and off!
@@annekerotterdam7499 I totally agree with you. He was like that he purposely did things to me to set me off. I thought bc he didn't care or pay attention. They are sadistic to the core and yes they can moderate their behavior. I've seen it many times throughout the years. I told him to treat me with dignity and respect or dont bother me with your petty BS. I'm not a masochist .
Y A, what you failed to hear & you're failing to understand is that they are the center of their universe, not you! You're assuming their every act has your reaction in mind & it just doesn't.
You all obviously didn't listen to the video or more likely think you know better, so go on & make your own videos then 🙄
PS y'all are just giving way too much credit where it isn't due
They DO enjoy your pain. They CANNOT even contain their absolutely delight at your confusion, distress, hurt and anguish. It spills right out through their smiles, smirks, twinkling eyes and smug satisfaction.
H.G I agree with everything except, that they don't enjoy seeing your anguish. They DO. They DO. They Do.
Saying they don't will cause empathic persons to continually forgive the N's mis-deeds, rather than accept the untenable, unhealthy and dangerous situation of being in a relationship with a Narc.
They definitely DO
My narcissist ex told my relative that I was crying when we broke up, and my relative said my ex had a big smile on his face as he said it. The night that he dumped me, I mostly cried due to the physical pain of suffering from kidney stones that night; and I somewhat cried from that narcissist f*ck*r breaking up with me that same night. The thought of me crying after he cruelly discarded me put a big, stupid smile on his face.
As someone who is beginning to think I might be a narcissist i have to disagree. I don't know why I smile when i see someone uncomfortable. I don't think wow let's try to make this happen again. I just want to smile but I feel really bad for wanting to smile cause I know there pain isn't good. But for some reason it's funny. But it doesn't make me happy. I feel like a monster even typing that but it's the truth. His description of it is spot on. Shit happens and I just want to smile. I'm confused about why I want to smile cause it's not funny and I recognize that but I do. You as someone on the other side may think I enjoy the moment and am doing it on purpose but I'm not.
Myles you are an anomaly then. Most narcissists are very sadistic by nature. When my wife sees me in pain, she ABSOLUTELY enjoys it and it shows. I sure hope you plan to get help Myles if you are a narcissist because someday we all have to answer for sins.
Yes, they definitely know what they are doing.
You just strengthened my belief in your theory of these three distinct levels. The one I labeled as “midrange” checks every box. To this Goody Two Shoes, I am the narcissist, the drama queen who enjoys punishing him. He sees himself as such a good person and a helper that everything is someone else’s fault, sees any bad feelings as definitely coming from outside of himself. I felt that his gaslighting was not intentional so I became concerned about his memory and focus, calling it a moment of ADD, thinking he couldn’t recall because of distraction. Yet at work so focused and successful? He was so frustrating and draining because everything became a debate, and he doesn’t disengage with one as quickly as the lesser or the greater in my opinion. I felt he holds tighter to his supply because he didn’t have the easy charm to fall back on, was too concerned about his reputation as such a nice guy. Definitely more silent treatments, sulking, whining, so “misunderstood.” This is the category that I deem just drones on and on forever. Not physically abusive but condescending on a level from annoying to cutting. I feel this type will work the hardest to veil that they enjoy your pain. That you will hear more “Why do you hate me?” at this level.
I listened again, and I think I understand you are trying to convey they aren’t truly enjoying your pain, it just appears that way because they become so smug while power tripping? They’re teaching you a lesson that you obviously need. :)
Somebody's Falling
You are right also mine 100% was midrange was discarded after 15 years sadly I miss him so much. Abusive moments were very scary though
Somebody's Falling. - Good Lord, you just described the one I was with! The whining, the sulking, the smugness, the putdowns and insults ( which he said were only to help me ), etc. - it just absolutely broke my spirit and wore me out.
Excellent video HG. You nailed this perfectly.
Somebody's Falling : YES.
I love you. You taught me alot HQ thanks for the teachings and I used you in my psychology final NPD got an A. You scared the hell out of my class w some of your videos lol but it got them interested cause people don't have a clue lol. Thanks for helping me pass the semester👍🏽
Well done. I shall send you my invoice!
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Awesome knowledge is power and getting out there. Thank you for helping spread the knowledge💞
Thank you for helping me understand.
I am crossing the sea slowly but surely
I almost see the shore.
thanks HG
Thank you for making sense of the chaos. 😘
Another excellent video. Thank you. I owned one of these mid-rangers years ago. You, HG, are providing a great service. I don’t care if you get fuel from the comments. Keep ‘em coming!
One of the best resources online. The books are even better.
As much as I do not want to agree with you regarding the concept that a Mid Ranger is not aware of what he/she is doing, my experience and my research proves your statements. My ex fiance became very predictable toward the middle and final end of the relationship. Whenever he felt "out of control" he became CONTROLLING. Everything was my fault or his boss' fault, or anyone's fault except his. To this day he "apologizes" for what he did (too many things to list) but ALWAYS accompanies the apology with a caveat. BUT if you had.... I would never have done... SPOT ON. I have never been a believer in the terms Empath or Super Empath either, but you have made a believer out of me. I fit all of the criterion of a Super Empath. When I finally fought back, I fought back HARD! He was even surprised. I got over it, and wanted peace over revenge. I now feel nothing but pity for my ex. I suffered a far worse childhood than he did, it was even on the news as I set a California legal precedent and sued my abusive parents back in the 80's! However, his childhood damaged him far worse than mine did me. I pray for him but ONLY at a distance. I also have been no contact or limited contact for 6 years. He was the ONLY man who tried to love my son with multiple special needs, at least until he realized that my son would never be cured. He was also there for me (even when we were no longer seeing one another) when my only family except for my son, mi hermanito bello (beautiful little brother) killed himself. I can not hate him, I feel nothing but sadness for him and indeed HG for you as well. I will NUNCA (NEVER) go back, and now that I know who and what I was dealing with, he no longer has any more power over me. He is older now, and is one of those "fading narcissists" that you spoke of in a video of the same name. He sits alone and surfs the internet. He has his porn, and his few VERY few now people that think he is a great if misunderstood fellow. I know who he is, but more importantly, I know who I AM now. I may have been chosen by him, but my lack of self caused me to CHOOSE to stay and try to love him, EVEN when I saw the red flags and painted them pink. I spent many years in a loveless sexless marriage with a man on the ASD spectrum. When I met the Mid Ranger SOMATIC! in my former life, I was ripe for the picking! I see that now, and I WILL NUNCA (NEVER) FORGET that now. Your videos are a great way for you to make amends even if you are not doing them for that reason. I will continue to pray for you HG and ALL people who are made into monsters by their parents or others from a GREAT distance, but GOD works well at any distance. Abrazos! Hugs!
The beast I was with must have been a higher level Narcopath because one day I realized I was watching him gleefully watch me suffer. I reviewed that difficult day and realized the ENTIRE day, EVERY moment was controlled and manipulated for the expressed purpose of torturing me. Exhausted and in shock, I finally got up to leave and as I was on my way out, he was the most peaceful and serene I had EVER seen him. This is not an exaggeration. He calmly, sweetly smiled, walked me out to my car and in a sweet, almost sing-song voice asked, "are you OK hon"? It was sickening. Did he know what he was doing? ABSOLUTELY. Not a doubt in my mind.
The best response is to run far and fast away from these twisted things.
Excellent! Make absolute sense..... They act as per what they feeling, so you be good or bad, it is what they are feeling is what the tone of the conversation would be....well sounds like a very difficult spot for the narcissist and the receiver person of all this.... Thank you very much... More power and good wishes to you....
It’s like you just told my fortune of my past life events with my ex. I got an unapologetic apology that shifted the blame of why we didn’t work out on me, and all I could do was scoff at him for what was expected. I refuse to see him despite his threats of suing me for visitation of our children. I’m doing great now and my path is clear now without him.
I am not a narcissist but did not realize I was dealing with one so when she didn't tell me she was leaving and would just disappear in the middle of an event (or whatever was going on) or didn't care that we had mutual responsability to the animals (we each owned horses seperately) I started doing the exact same things she would do. When she would rage at me for it I would remind her that yesterday she had done exactly that thing and tell her "I care exactly as mich about you and your feelings as you do about mine. How does it feel to you?"
This wasn't out of the blue. It was after months of telling her she had hurt my feeling and left me in impossible positions by randomly taking off. Her rage and cruelty became almost unbearable before she finally had had enough of her own treatment. The one thing I would do was hit her although she would brag about how hard she kicked me in my sleep. I wouldn't sleep with her again and her rage at that caused the "I'm done with your abuse" discarding phase. Which didn't last long because I just said "ok, good".
She hated her behavior reflected back at her. And no I was not smiling. It hurt that she didn't understand STILL why I was hurt. She was only full of rage.
I prefer this explanatory narration style much more.
Woooooow, that makes so many things clear to me !!! Thank you H.G. 🙏... I'm sure, I dealed with a lesser or middle...Or a combination of both 😜
Thank you for answering the most important question I have pondered about. Now I shall write my book " The last lesson"
They are always justified in their abusive behaviors.... hence the blame on the victim....even when I found him sexting and cheating he told me... Great...you have now ruined the relationship.... it's a maladaptive defense mechanism at the expense of the victims sanity.
100% correct 15 years was discarded. Heart breaking
This is fascinating to me. This describes many traits of the narc I was dealing with but I think he was even more sinister. I think I’ll get my answers in the next video.
I find it hard to be mad at him if he is unaware.
I don’t hate my narcissistic ex. I know it is not his fault that he is the way he is. But I am grateful to have the knowledge that it simply would not be worth it to engage with him if he so happened to ever contact me again.
A mid-range narcissist is more instinctual than an active decision maker in how they prey on others. They know what they're doing, but don't have control over it or understand it. A herd dog knows how to herd animals with very little training from birth. It's something they know to do without thinking about it. That is what a mid-range narcissist does. In a way, they herd people's emotions to control them. Having self awareness/higher thoughts, unlike a herd dog, means they won't accept the authority of a shepherd to control their inner killer instinct. A herd dog will eventually submit to it's baser preditory instincts and eat it's herd without a shepherd to rein it in.
It so makes sense , my narc really really thought he was a good person and all the women were cheaters. I often was so confused by that, he must have an awareness of some kind about himself, but no, not a bit. He thought he was left alone constantely, never understood it was his behaviour, it couldn’t be, he was the good guy
Spot on! Congratulations for your work. One of my co-workers is actually a covert narcissist woman. Fortunately I did zero contact before I knew about her mechanisms, but I was confused a lot because she wanted to be a fake-friend previously and some of her mind trickery worked. She is a mid ranger, she has hoovered me about 3 times through 3rd parties, looking for reactions, but I silent treat her back (not even looking at her / so totally ignoring her presence) and so far fortunately nobody is interested in her that much...
Hahaha the littlest horns on the thumbnail 😂
THANK YOU TO GOD FIRST AND HG TUDER THANK YOU!!!!!
My upper mid-range narcissistic ex was always concerned with “self-preservation” (he always used those terms). At the time, a 9 year-old little girl and a woman who genuinely and deeply loved him “victimized” him because he accused me of loving my child “too much”. He felt left out or like I couldn’t love him because I loved my daughter-no matter how good I treated him. He is intelligent and he is a big guy and he is a former professional medal-winning martial artist in Asia; but emotionally he was a big baby. At that time, I could not figure him out.
He sought to molest ur daughter, likely the only reason he got with u. They like lurking around single moms and driving wedges. Heard the stories
Lashanda Williams: In the 4 years that we were together, I never got the slightest impression or gut feeling that he was a sicko or pedophile. Instead, I sensed that he could become abusive towards us because of his continuous and never-ending jealousy that I would not prioritize him over my child. However, anything is possible with a narcissist; your comment creeps me out and now I am really glad that he is gone. I am lucky that he left.
Do you think thar Chris Watts who s family have been murdered and hes blaming his wife, a narcissist? I think he is.
Yes
I know you weren’t asking me but I do diagnose personality disorders in my profession and I think Watts is a sociopath - Someone with Antisocial Personality Disorder, and yes they are Narcissistic to the core but with added evil of breaking laws of society and having Machevelianism. Everything they do to harm and manipulate others for their own personal gain, and killing the wife and kids to get them out of the way so he can be with someone else? Is there anything more evil than killing those you are supposed to protect and not only having zero remorse for it but blaming the victims? This goes way beyond Narcissism into a sociopath hence my diagnosis of Antisocial PD. There are also malignant Narcissists who are very abusive and no conscience as well. Ted Bundy was all of the above. The symptoms and behaviors found in these diagnoses overlap.
So the cheating, they really think it’s YOUR fault they cheat and they don’t know or think they’ve done any wrong?
Even more incredulously, they tell you they've cheated with another adult , fully expecting THAT gem to icepick you AFTER you've found the lesbian/aunt -13 yr old niece porn stash.(and it IS definitely a pathological stash.)
My ex did , and I laughed , followed by a snort of derision and a ,
"oh don't be ridiculous, you've only got the hots for 13 year olds, and lesbian porn. "
(He got the opposite and it stopped him mid rant , once he realised this hoover tactic was a dud , he dropped it from his repertoire xD)
Correct. The narcissism cannot allow the attribution of fault or accountability as this makes us feel powerless which is complete anathema to us.
Wow.. Blows my mind. Thank you so much for responding. I’ve been trying to understand this for a while. My ex narc cheated on me during my pregnancy, and keeps saying it was my fault he he seeked her in the first place, and even though they were physical with eachother, because they didn’t have sex, it wasn’t cheating.. Yet if I were to even approve another guys friend request on social media, he would accuse me of cheating. How does this make any sense, do they not understand logic?
@@aantae
They play by their rules, their logic.
You and your logic (nor societal mores) do not matter.
Does a mouse, it's logic or it's thoughts and feelings matter to a cat?
You are nothing more than a plaything, to be discarded when you "stop working" the way they expect you to.
And if you don't pull finger and do as you are told and conditioned to do, out come the knives, figurative,emotional, and in the most unfortunate and terrifying situations, actual.
Then it's hell to pay by you, caused by them without an ounce of remorse or regret for their ensuing actions.
(and for the outcomes of said actions they shall forever remain blameless.)
And the fact that you're pregnant? You guessed it : "So what."
Oh they most certainly do! And it gives them a cheap thrill. One particularly nasty narcissist I have kept my distance from actually went out of her way to track me down just to send me a "I found you!" message with an attached photo of themselves looking absolutely evil! A horrible picture. No smile, unfriendly and cold. Absolutely bat, 💩 crazy!
Brilliant level of understanding HG!
I'm not able to wrap my head around the "don't know they're lying" thing. So, take the example of the narcissist cheating on his spouse, knows the general population would see it is wrong, and thus hides it. Is the lie that, "no, I'm not having an affair," that he tells his spouse who inquires, included in the kind of lie you're talking about? Cause if that's really believed, that he's not lying in that moment, if that's not some kind of severe mental handicap or disorder or delusion, the kind that this type of narcissist seems far to competent and functional in the world to have... then is it that the perceptions from the narcissists perspective on what's true and what's a lie are just totally different from how I think of what's true and what's a lie?
If the narcissist says, "no, I'm not having an affair," surely he doesn't in that instance stop believing that he left the house the other night and slept with a woman who wasn't his wife? What does it mean to him, to believe he's not lying, to believe his own lie?
This is gaslighting. Abuse is not an "instinct." Attempting to justify, dismiss, explain - and therefore, enable - abuse is an abuser's instinct.
Brilliant.
Yes, this is my ex, 100%. I could always tell he was unaware. Thank you for giving me insight, even if it's not easy to hear.
I can't wait . The greater please
Another Rhyme
Another rhyme should have been written for this space
About somebody I thought would be genuine and real,
But I came to notice things without grace
And it seems I was offered to take a sick deal...
As I think of it I fell for it like a child
And finally I called it off as my recompence...
I found out by God's will a mask that can't hide,
Before I got totally buried in the flower dance
I am forever thankful to my friends who have listened to me!
I've recently been told that the creator of this channel has passed away. His information will be missed!
Well,since they are " pre- programmed" to do much damage to those who love them; they need to remain single. Whatever the reason they cannot help themselves; abuse is abuse. It is never justified. Never. Even small children know right from wrong. I believe allowing strong consequences due to wrong,hurtful,dangerous actions is required. They need a wake up call to their false self.
Sometimes it feels like the Winter has come. Sometimes I bleed like run river, run....
Do you suggest to block every social media telephone whatsapp?? I did last week and I feel better light and free but my question is :do they suffer? Are they upset about that?
Damn another good one hg
Thank you.
Whoa... empathic narcissist... what? Please go into further details about it. I've questioned so many of my decisions and choices believing someone else to be a narcissist but it might be me???
Being WITH him with (6 yrs.).............TERRY SAID HE DID NOT THINK U EVEN LIVE WITH KARON!!
Oh this is my husband description in 100%, I really want him to realise this, who he is and what his doing. Has it any sens? According to what I learn already, I think not. Thank you for an eyeopening videos.
*Hey* *HG* ,
*Do* *A* *Video* *On* *Two* *Narcs* *Both* *Greater* 😎
*Please* !
Yeah I was told I'm the first domineering woman he has ever had...wtf! I honestly do not feel jealous of the others and view them as weak woman AND I am Not that
This is amazingly *THUROUGH*
No. This makes no sense to me. Bc sometimes the mid-ranger hurts others (folllowed by a smirk of course) without a bad Situation for happend. I rember a mid-ranger(Not a greater narc), makes friends with pll, just to make them suffer and smirks whenever they suffer. But these ppl are good to him! IT is often not a response of a narcistic injury!! He just loves the pain and plans in advance triangulation How do they justify that? They must have an conviction of their inner Darkness. Do they really think that they are good Persons Tudor? I doup that... You even said in a video that all narcs sense the darknis within. They must know they are a lil Bad ppl. You said we should ask u. So thats why i am asking👍
U also said that the mid-ranger could stop his minipiluativ behavior and that he has an awareness that he is diffrent. So isnt there a litle awarness there?
Judy Abraham gg
They are aware, you cannot hide what you cannot see. When he says they see nothing wrong with what they are doing, why do they hide it? If you believe what's said here then an NPD doesn't have enough planning and self awareness to organise crossing the road. Always remember that NPDs don't want to blame anyone they only want to be faultless, because if they have a fault then the black and white thinking kicks in and then they start devaluing themselves
Omg I recognize a narc in myself😱 I can be sooo anoyed when I call someone and he doesn’t answer. If I see him later I have to overcome myself and act nice, but I am really annoyed.
I appreciate your insight, I just can’t help but wonder if you believe that your behavior will backfire on you? And do you think you would like to change your thinking?
When are you going to post the video corresponding to The Greater?
BOUNDRIES scare them away.
I have a question. When the midranger reads a lot about narcissism and recognises himself but does not want to change (maybe because he didn’t hit the point of an identity crisis or something), does he become a greater?
He will not recognise himself.
There is no shift between schools.
Does a narcissistic injury / ignited (or cold) fury equals negative fuel? If so, would repeated narcissistic injuries whilst not providing any (or minimal) fuel dissuade a mid-ranger from seeking contact/interaction? I guess the real question is whether this would constitute a form of 'pain conditioning' that could work on a person with NPD keeping him/her away.
Please see the book 'Fury' it is all in there.
@@KnowingtheNarcissist I just bought the book. This is so eye openning. Your story is so very visual and the characters of the mother and the oncle are so very well presented as the covert and overt... so informative abd scary at the same time. I just dodged a bullet not getting tricked into giving a kid to my narc ex... the smearing campain is on it's way. What would you suggest for that?
Spot. On.
I have a question does it always have to be an.empathic person and a narcissit ,some couples have narsissistic traits and the game goes on but for not long maybe because they see eachothers skims
Hg, Using your example regarding the mid ranger and the telephone calls to the wife.
He paints her black due to being wounded by her (lack of attention?) because she did not returned his calls then he views her through a black lens.
Why would he be incapable of saying "I called you a few times today but couldn't get hold of you?" would that be his paranoia ?
Also, if these mid, upper mid rangers are intelligent then surely they can see how they act, respond and treat others?
1. The narcissism won't let the narcissist state that because as I explained in the video the narcissism causes the narcissist to see the spouse through a black lens and therefore the 'reasonable' response you have written is not an option. The narcissist has to provoke to assert superiority again.
2. No, this is the common mistake victims make through such an assumption. Again, you are looking at the situation from YOUR perspective (entirely understandable of course) but from the narcissist's perspective he sees it differently. It is about differing PERSPECTIVES and those perspectives are nothing to do with intelligence. Your emotional thinking makes you think 'he is intelligent, he must surely see he is wrong' so you keep trying to persuade and influence (and thus you continue to engage with the narcissist and feed your own addiction - which is what your ET wants you to do) .
Thank you Hg for replying.
I'd like to ask another question, at what point does the partner get painted black?
Using your phone call as reference, he rings once and no response, he rings a second time and still no response, then it hears nothings back from her.
Would the criticism /wounding start to take an effect after the first phone call or would it be later on after he has heard nothing?
This may seem like an odd question to ask although I am trying to break it down step by step to fully appreciate and understand this perspective.
If after the first phone call he gets no response and the wounding takes place would it not be fair to say that there would be a l(let's call it) shift in mind set?
This shift in mind set (painted black) has an effect on the narcissist and the out come is a negative one.
So........
A, When this shift in mind set occurs is it something that can be felt in side the mind or the narcissist (an awareness)
B, When this shift in mind set occurs it is a completely automated response caused by the conditioning and survival mechanisms put in place from childhood?
What do you suppose might happen if two narcissists were in a relationship together? How might their two similar personalities interact with one another?
When that happen, actually the other one is the "victim" (lesser dominant) of the other. Similar analogy with gay partners, they are both males, but one is the "male" (dominant), the other is "female" (submissive).
HG,I believe you are reading this from one of your books. May I know from which book is this? Thank you.
@knowingthenarcissist hg my ex narc now says he needed to see a therapist now cuz the pain of losing me. Fuel? Can you do a video on why he would go to one.
Very interesting
Please do a video on discard and if they will come back for midrange? And I mean come to stay?
Buzzing Bee They will come back. Whether or not they stay is up to you.
I have been no contact with my ex narc for 3 and a 1/2 months he has not tried to contact me in any way he did show up in a few places I frequent and then left. We live together on and off for 3 years the longest he stayed was 3 months before he took off to be with someone else in always came back here.. Why has there not been any Hoover if I was his primary Source?
What's the difference between borderline personality disorder and Narcissists? I've been diagnosed with BPD and Bipolar Disorder but sometimes I wonder if I am a Narcissist. My ex bf thinks I am. But I think he is the narcissist and I attract these kinds of people bc my father and mother are both narcissists. My whole damn family is. I've always felt victimized by men and now watching these videos im confused because you're saying midrangers don't know their narcissists. I thought I was above my family.
hg can i Contact you in any way cause i want to ask WHy my narc Treats me the worst Even he got Money and shelter from me and Nobody of His Harem gives him more Then me but i get Treat the worst it Doesnt make Sense
Go to narcsite.com and see the menu bar to organise a consultation
Will you please tell me this why does a narricissist hoover and hoover but never say a word he is hooveting me alot but just stands and Stares never calls just comes to my place of work and stares...WHY???
Terri Brown, He is trying to provoke you into proving fuel and assert his superiority by standing outside your place of work. Ignore him.
Call the police as well. Get a restraining order.
Lol, i knew it's some kind a self defense mechanism. Survival of the fittest from now on. Thanks HG. Btw, are you going to narrate you own book some day like promised or did you lied? Peace
If I don't get in touch with my gf the narcissist for a week as she's not responded to me today but she did yesterday will it have any effect on her
MrTheomighty1 If you ignore her it will wound, however, you should go no contact.
If I think mid range can be worked with. Is this not true????
Buzzing Bee, you cannot "work" with a narcissist or change them. GOSO and go NC.
You become a narcissist because you have a void in your heart. So you become dig a hole, cover a hole. Constant looking for fuel out of thirst.
If your 'void' has been addressed once and for all, probably your tendency to harm others will be gone forever. God is the answer. Repent now.
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T.h.tudor, you are not a mid ranger, so you know from expereience, we have experience too..they know what they are Doing. Maybe they justify everything, But they hurt u, even if u did nothing that would cause an injury to them.That is why most of the " mid rangers" who belive in God are soo afraid of hell!!! If they think they are good persons why are they so afraid of hell then. They know that what they are doing is wrong espeacially if they are doing it to pll who did nothing to them. Maybe you are trying to fool us all... And you read my two questions below but u choose not to answer. So why Do you say we shout comment here and ask u, if u Do not bother to answer us.
They know society, other people consider their actions wrong - hence hidden behaviours and the façade, but they do not accept they are wrong because of the rejection of accountability - listen to the video again to see the difference, it can be very subtle in some instances. The fear of hell as you describe is part of the façade.
@@KnowingtheNarcissist thank u for your answer!!! Yes i agree, they justify what ever they Do! But how can they justify hurting anoher person who is just nice to them causing them No narcistic injury? I mean: In these Situation they must sense their inner darknes. That is why it is so hard to be convinced that they think of themself as a good hearted Person all the time. But again thank u for answering!!! I know u Are a greater Narc, you know who you are and all the things u do. Bevor u die, you can ask God for forgivness. And He will forgive u even before your last breath. I know its hard to belive but Jesus still loves u and is waiting for YOU...you too will die one day..and stand infront of God. You CANT and WONT manipulate and escape GOD. GOD knows all your games and still loves u. You feel like a leader in this world but in reality you are a slave to the devil and satan is waiting for u to be so proud that you dont want to ask God for forgivness. And if u wont....man i dont want to be in your skin!!! Peace To you...! And thank u for the video u are doing, although its not your itention you are helping a Lot of PPl Word Wide!!
Do you consider yourself to be a Greater?
I am.
Oh HG YOU LOVE IT WHEN WE STROKE YOUR EGO ...MR.GREATER
Knowing the Narcissist If that is so, why should we believe you? Is your work here not deemed to to be an act of benevolence? Why so?? Is this a fleeting act of righteousness???
touta, Imagine the worst that can happen at a level you never knew existed times a million=A Greater!
across the barricades, There is no such thing as a benevolent narcissist.
The mid Range in my life may have been at 1 time a Very high Range.. but had terrible brain and head trauma due to getting his head bashed in.. 15 Years later I Believe he is just midrange
Spot on.