Brahms: Violin Concerto Soloist Entrance Comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2022
- Brahms: Violin Concerto in D, op. 77
Comparison of Soloist Entrance
0:00 Hilary Hahn (2014)
0:25 Itzhak Perlman
0:56 Augustin Hadelich
1:23 Janine Jansen
1:50 Sergey Khachatryan
2:23 David Oistrakh
2:49 Hilary Hahn (2021)
3:18 Leonidas Kavakos
3:45 Yehudi Menuhin
4:13 Sayaka Shoji
4:45 Julia Fischer
5:10 Bomsori Kim
5:38 Frank Peter Zimmermann
6:03 Jascha Heifetz
6:31 David Garrett
7:00 Vadim Gluzman
7:28 Maxim Vengerov
7:53 Nathan Milstein
8:17 Yu Chien Tseng (Benny)
In my humble opinion, Perlman tears your soul apart, it's not just technique
Totally Agree with your assessment
My favorite because Perlman has something special that you cannot practice
@@sprickenville Wow, really? I don't know what it is about his timing that you don't like. Can you elaborate a bit more to help me understand? Personally, it's my favourite rendition!
@@sprickenvilleI understand. Perlman is very good at artistic expression and in this piece his violin just sings. However, the entrance to the Brahms’s has very little room for rubato or phrasing differences, so the trade off is that the timing is off I think.
Agree
I think Hadelich is one of the most unique violinists out there…I feel like I could listen to a bunch of soloists play a piece I had never heard before and I could tell which was him.
impeccable techniques: extremely accurate intonations, great and consistent tone
Together with his Guarneri sound
Perfection
Impecable rendition, although not really my taste, his cadenza was really bad tho
@@alejandronarvaez9806"really bad".. come on. I mean I am a Hadelich fanboy so I might be a little biased but I think his cadenza is awesome. It's just different from what one is used to hearing, isn't it? Same with the Paganini cadenza of his.
the way he puts his left hand on the finger board looks so different to others
He is a very cerebral player. I can hear the thought he puts into every phrase. I really enjoy his playing!
It's really incredible how Hilary changed from 2014 to 2021 in terms of performance, definetly one the greatest violinists we have
I really think Hilary poured thousands of hours into the soul of the music. Her technique has always been flawless, but seeing her improve her musicality makes her that much more of an impressive musician.
I noticed the same thing.
Different violin, different conductor, another hall, another day. No performance is the same 😊
👑👑👑HEIFETZ👑👑👑
Hadelich much better but ok
I love Hillary Hahn (2014) not only because it’s a fantastic interpretation, but also it’s with the Frankfurt Radio Symphony. They have in my opinion the BEST audio recording technology BY FAR.
France Musique’s audio quality in Hilary Hahn’s Sibelius is soooo good
Same !
damn knowing which symphony has the best audio recording tech is a level of classical music nerdom that I can only hope to one day achieve lol
@@MattB90 I am indeed a huge nerd haha. I really hope I can become a professional clarinetist and play with some of the magnificent orchestras around the world.
ok
I love the phrasing and pacing on Milstein's version. It has excitement that the others don't have imho.
I studied with Theodora McMillan who was the first woman to play with the Cleveland Symphony Orchestra. Nathan's version was her all-time favorite. The version that I first came to love was Nigel Kennedy's, and it might have been because it was filmed more like a music video, which after listening to countless recordings in the Music Library, was just more accessible to my beginner ears at the time. It would be interesting to know what violins each performer is playing. I think the violins of David Oistrakh and Sergey Khachatryan were very similar. I think if Hilary were playing Paganini's Guarneri all this time instead of her Villaume she wouldn't have to struggle so hard to avoid being buried by loud orchestras and would have more nuance in her playing.
I was about to comment the same thing! I love the nonstop pace
Yes, there is phrasing in Milstein's version that others don't have. I love Heifetz's version too because of the compactness of his sound.
Agree, Milshtein intelligent phrasing, hardly distinctive strokes and intonation make him my favorite. Milshtein is unique among those stars as always.
Yes I agree. Not only that I am hearing every note on those octaves.
I'm giving Julia Fischer the win on this for the clarity, crispness and the fiery nature that fits this opening well.
Really? She sounds like sul tasto in overdrive from the amount of bow speed to pressure she is using. Compared to Hillary, Perlman and Milstein she sounds super washy to me.
i really love the way bomsori does it
Gotta say, objectively there is tonnes of great playing and musicianship from all of them!! Marvellous comparison!!!!
2021 Hahn is superior. Had the pleasure to see her do Brahms last year at the Kennedy Center. Was simply spectacular!
also saw her brahms last year at kennedy center! it was such an amazing concert
I’m sad cause I live near dc but I couldn’t attend 😢
I heard her brahms today☺️ absolutely amazing!😮
Creo que la mejor interpretación es la de Szeryng
Milstein tone and intonations are just over the top.
Sad not to compare with Ginette Neveu and Christian Ferras, maybe two top 5 interprétations.
Funny, there are violinists that I prefer but I can't say which one I prefer on this, they all have something special
I liked Bonsori Kim that I don't know very well.
That's why they are all on here. 😊
Thank you so much for doing this Video, it would have taken a long time, but well worth the time, I just Love Perlmans Entrance, I also love that you have mixed it up with Old School, Female and Male participants.
Beautiful comparison! Love how you included Hilary on two occasions!
Second one was on a bad hair day.
@@jansnauwaert1785 Hahah no, I think that was just her hair style at the time.
And twice boring, out of tune, no sounds special, just ordinary, but the people are "listening" with the "eyes" (hair style, how her body motion is...) Come on, let's try again, violin is tone, music is flow, performer is a poetry
Fascinating to listen to and watch how these amazing artists deal with and make this powerful music Great vid Still watching and listening
This was a very interesting comparison. Keep up the good work!
This is a great video. Thank you. My preference order is: Hadelich, Fischer, Hahn (‘21). I’m sure Heifetz would have sounded fantastic had he recorded recently.
I grew up w this Heifetz recording. Listening to a record player is soooo different.
Great video comparison of many of my favorite violinists. You should do more of these.
I’d love to see some of these for cello concertos
The New York classical station had a program, unsure if it's still running, called Reflections from the Keyboard, where they would air back to back recordings of the same movement or piece as the central part of the show, for the listener's comparison and analysis (albeit piano and not violin). I was always impressed that in the days before youtube, on-demand content, and easy research, a major radio station would air essentially the same music 3, 4, sometimes nearly 10 times in a row, as a featured program, every day I believe...when I was a little kid I never understood the concept but once I started studying music it became my favorite program for its invaluable insights. Now we are privileged to have all this content at our fingertips all the time.
That’s so cool
Jansen is my favorite. We are missing Francescatti, Ricci, Midori, Lamsma, Mullova, Kishima, Duenas, Kelemen, Benedetti, Shaham, Frang, Bell, Kang, Stern, and a few others.
Ehnes
H. SZERYNG !?
i go in a class with duenas’s sister, crazy
They are both lovely women!!! You are lucky. @@lucastamenov9615
Voici mon classement :
1er : Menuhin
2ème Perlman
3ème : Hahn
4ème : Kavados
5ème : Fischer
L'entrée de Menuhin est exceptionnelle ! Le concerto est à écouter en entier ! C'est une interprétation de référence ! Musicalité, sensibilité et technique hors du commun !
Merci monsieur Menuhin !
Hilary Hahn 2:49 (2021) and Augustin Hadelich 0:56 are my favourites 🙂 But they are ALL great 🙂
Loved!! Greetings from 🇵🇹!!! Obrigado!
I'm still waiting for Ray Chen to record this concerto.. Because he plays it all the time but it's just never been recorded..
@@sprickenville huh?
@@sprickenville It was a bit crunchy, wasn't it? I watched the melbourne symphony livestream. He's gotten a lot more aggressive in the past few years..
@@sprickenville Fair enough. I still wonder what bis Brahms would sound like though..
these are so good!! we need more!!!
Hilary Hahn's 2014 interpretation is definitely my favorite🔥
Uno dei passi più belli del concerto di Brahms. Tutti meravigliosi i violinisti ascoltati. Ho apprezzato molto Perlman. Non è da far torto, però a nessun violista: eccelsi. Sono stati selezionati, infatti i migliori in questa performance ed è bellissimo ascoltarli tutti.
La Musica è divina e molto coinvolgente. Grazie ❤ per il dono.
Neveu ( with Schmidt-Isserstedt) and Oistrakh are my favourites, No. 3 is Milstein, all 3 are great.
NEVEU and OISTRACH: yes, outstanding.
I really love Hahn's (2021) interpretation. I personally prefer it from the others, though all amazing! Her performance from 2023 gets even better.
Really love the video. It's fun to close my eyes and guess, even though I got them all wrong except Hilary!
What about Henryk Szeryng? one of the best interpretation of Brahms concerto, and my favourite
The best ever
That is a big name to leave out.
Me too!
7 of My favorites
1. Hilary Hahn (2014 and 2021)
2. Jascha Heifetz
3. Sergey Khachatryan
4. Ji Young Lim
5. Maxim Vengerov
6. Julia Fischer
7. Yehudi Menhuin
Honorable Mentions : David Oistrakh, Frank Peter Zimmermann, Anne Sophie Mütter, ETC.
And Let's Not Forget one Virtuoso and Maestro, Julian Rachlin
The first of your "honorable mentions" (David Oistrakh), should be on spot 2 of your favorites list. On No. 1: Ginette Neveu (the live concert with Isserstedt).
I don't understand why so many people like Heifetz in general. I can't stand listening to his performances. Rarely do I find his interpretations something I would want to imitate.
@@davidlebel9687 I share your feeling. I don't even listen to him anymore. I can think of at least 100 violinists I like more than Heifetz.
I think Julia Fischer really nailed the recitative-like character of this opening.
Éxtasis!!! Thank you!!!
A wonderful compilation.
My top 3 : 1-Hilary Hahn 2- Sergey Khachatryan 3-Janine Jansen this start is so wild and glorious like a storm...and they show it so good...
Really interesting - I found myself preferring the Hahn clips. But they are all fantastic in their own way.
Without Christian Ferras, such a comparison panel looks missing one of the most important.
Where is Francescatti? I grew up on his recordings of this concerto.
So did I
Uno dei più belli concerto per violino mai scritto da chi non sapeva suonare il violino. Questo passo va suonato con massimo legame tra una nota all'altra. Non come isolati motivi ma legati per poi raggiungere il climax... SOLO ALCUNI LO FANNO. MA TUTTI BRAVI.😊
Concerto pour violon de Brahms :
Violon : Yehudi Menuhin
Direction : Kurt Masur
Leipzig 1982
Очень интересный канал!!!. Прослушала 18 скрипачей . Звукоизвлечение у них разное.На это обратил внимание ещё К.Флеш ( сейчас мы можем видеть - слышать на Ютубе и сравнивать) в своей книге " Искусство скрипичной игры" в 1923г (124стр). "... с точки зрения звукового выражения существуют различные друг от друга категории скрипачей.У одних красивый звук является неотъемлемой составной частью их технического аппарата.Такие скрипачи владеют звуком всегда ." Скрипку сделали под правшей .В жизни всё делает правая рука ,а левая ей помогает ." Правая " госпожа , а левая " служанка". Доминанта правая рука . " Положение скрипачей второй категории менее благоприятно...При отсутствии личного переживания или при плохом настроении они способны извлечь лишь сухой, холодный звук." Доминанта левая рука. К первой категории ,где левая рука подчиняется правой ,можно отнести : H.Hahn , I.Perlman , L. Kavakos. J.Fisher , B , Kim , F.P.Zimmerman. D .Garrett. N.Milstein . Вторая группа , где доминанта левая рука ,можно отнести: А.Наdelich , J.Jansen , S. Khachatryan , D .Oistrakh , Y.Menuhin , S. Shoji ,J .Heifetz ,V .Gluzman ,M. Vengerov . Y. Chien . Флеш дальше пишет:" Каждому скрипачу крайне важно знать, к какой из этих двух групп он принадлежит ". При обучении лучше первая категория , всё идёт естественно .Советую послушать : Моцарт "Концертная симфония " .Играют М.Венгеров (доминанта левая рука) и Юрий Башмет ( доминанта правая рука). Одновременно играют два музыканта с разным звукоизвлечением .Венгеров играет инструментально ,а Башмет играет вокально.Скрипку сделали в подрожании оперного пения. " Когда говорят про инструментальные голоса ,ты эти разговоры не слушай .Это говорят те ,кто не умеет петь ,у кого нет тембра ."( Е.Образцова ).Педагоги специально не учат ,чтобы главная была правая рука , кто как приспособился , тот так и играет .А этому приёму надо учить осознано , в ЦМШ ,в училищах и консерваториях ,но педагоги придерживаются принципа ,если у ученика звучит ,то пусть играет как хочет .
Muy parejos
Todos grandes ejecutantes
La fuerza de las obras de Brahms es notable
El que siempre logra fortísimos sin un ápice de enojo o agresividad sigue siendo Perlman
MORE OF THIS KIND OF VIDEO PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEE
For this concerto, all time I prefer Heifetz. For modern players for me it’s Jansen. In the entrance Hahn (2021) matched Janine’s intensity but this video just shows the entrance. The key for me with this piece is who can master this massive work as a whole.
For me, personally, that would be Perlman!
Pretty cool hearing all this top level artists side by side, Lisa Batiashvili is my favorite Brahms, sadly the video is no longer on YT
Fantastic Video! So lovely to hear the greatest violinists! I would also add one more - Henryk Szeryng. In my opinion, master of Brahms
Heifetz toujours inégalé. L’humble et glorieux respect de la partition. Brahms revit.
Who among you have some trouble choosing who's the best among the best? I think, they are all great in their own unique ways.
Love this video, hearing them all back to back really puts emphasis on their individuality, great concept
Vengerov is so good he can play without moving ❤️❤️❤️
I find them all different but all beautiful.
Very interesting to notice Dounis technique on many of them 😊
All are virtuoso violinists playing at the highest level humanly possible. I like the style and sound of Bomsori's violin, this rendition is from 2017 I believe.
Shojis interpretation isnt getting the love i think it deserves
Her full concerto, I like it. th-cam.com/video/wbHUG6utqhs/w-d-xo.html
i love hadelichs approach it's kinda oldschool but refreshing?
Did a blind test only looking at the names after listening.
First, I don't understand Hadelich's justification for holding no note to the full length. Really fluffy, no intensity or purpose. I was so confused.. lol
Hahn 2012 was so crisp. Not much growth though. The intensity died off toward the end, but it was really good.
Zimmermann - instructive for tone and technical note length and style.
Julia Fischer and gluzman, wow! The fire!
Milstein - on another level with forward motion and purpose.
Heifetz - the ONLY one I immediately knew by tone production, forward motion, and clarity. Enough said?
But atop them all .... David Oistrakh.. like a storm. Unstoppable musicianship, superior tone production, perfect motion of the more decorative notes and chords, and growth of intensity like no other. Jaw dropping.
Fantastic video, thank you!
One last note... Szeryng must be added! His is one of the pinnacle Brahms performances.
Oistrakh, Gluzman, Zimmermann, and Vengerov really get the articulation required by Brahms but just my opinion ❤
Vengerov all the way, you can here the tension being built.
Not a fan usually of Milstein's Brahms, but the entrance sure is epic, doesn't stop and goes straight to the high c from the beginning. True fire. A lot of these are very good on the technical side but lack fire, Oistrakh as well I might say
Thanks for the video. Big surprised me, Frank Peter Zemmermann, gooddd. Yehudi Menuhin and Jascha Heifetz... Anne-Sophie Mutter its posible in this list, whit Ros Marvá conductor and Rtve (Spanish orquestra).
For my the best introduction and maybe in all Brahms concert is Victor Tretiakov,he doesn't appear in this video,but,he has a tremendous recording
Leonid Kogan's Brahms cocerto is not in this list! I do know more Sibelius playing! The best Sibelius concerto players are Really=Guila Bustabo( The Queen Tiger) Viktor Tretjakov( The King!) Gidon Kremer( live hurricane version not his recordigs! Myrian Fried! I have to listen Trejakov's Brahms more often!
According to me (but certainly not only me), the *greatest* rendition of this concerto was by Ginette Neveu in 1948 with Isserstedt as conductor. So, a comparison without including that (even if there is no visual material to show), is imho not at all complete.
For me Nathan Milstein is always going to be the most perfect violinist overall. However, the winner for Brahm's Entrace goes to Nadja Salerno-Sonnenberg. 2nd- Bomsori Kim & Maxim Vengerov
2:52 Nadja Salerno-Sonnenberg th-cam.com/video/giIBatKa5r4/w-d-xo.html&start_radio=1
2:38 Tianwa Yang th-cam.com/video/UrkaMesJ7R0/w-d-xo.html
3:24 Kyung Wha Chung th-cam.com/video/oelcmJ13HDU/w-d-xo.html
3:17 Nigel Kennedy th-cam.com/video/Q_iRiq0bzoY/w-d-xo.html
2:58 Rachel Barton Pine th-cam.com/video/Q_iRiq0bzoY/w-d-xo.html
I miss Francescatti, Krebbers, Grumiaux, Ferras and Szeryng!
1 Menuhin & Milstein
2 Heifetz
2 Perlman
3 Hadelich
4 Jansen
5 Vengerov
I agree. The Szeryng / Monteux Recording is unrivalled imho.
I agree with this list except Heifetz. He was at the bottom of the list for me....of them all.
Milstein and Fischer are at the top. 3rd place is hard to determine but I grew up listening to Perlman playing this, so I'll say I like him for 3rd place.
Interesting, I liked Hahn's rendition and Julia Fischer and Milstein and some of Handelich. However, they all more or less sound exactly the same. Hahn's and Fischer are kind of the right emotion for me and Milstein along with Garrett have a certain quality of authenticity in and of themselves and Handelich added a nuance I never heard before and it was interesting.
Janine, maxim and Milstein have a a incredibly naturalness when they are playing. I love it! My favorites!!
What about Ginette Neveu?? She made the ultimate recording of this Concerto.
Indeed!!! She is the big one missing in this presentation. Best rendition of the Brahms violin concerto ever: Ginette Neveu under Isserstedt. Neveu really had everything.
Make same video on sibelius please! !!
Kyung Wha Chung's playing is missing..
Интересно!
Pelman play with heart 👍🏼🇲🇽
These are all at an extremely high level. Artistically I gravitate toward Hahn 2021. But I have to agree with some others here - Milstein just stands out. That drive! That huge line! It's almost a different dimension of playing, at least in this short selection.
I’m not fond of these comparisons bc they neglect so much context - the hall acoustics, the overall interpretation/performance of soloist & orchestra and how they accommodate each other; the bow they use and instrument they play. In a live performance all this and more influence my musical experience. Sometimes I’m blown out of mind. Other times, That was nice.
I saw several performances of the Brahms and Perlman knocked me out. His sound, his power, what he brought out the orchestra playing, was astounding. The string sections played 10x better than I heard all season. Call it inspiration. They lived up to their promise vs another evening of professionals turning in a very accomplished performance.
I’ll never forget that Sunday afternoon. In rehearsal he is known to call out, More Jewish, meaning lay on the verbrato, dig that bow in, make a BIG sound. LOL. Just love that intensity and music making. Does it make musicologists happy? 🤨 Does it make for a hell of a performance and electric experience? You bet.
I agree, you're spot on! Perlman's rendition is my favourite!
Look at henryk szeryngs performance, I think it’s one of the best
This should be comparison of them all after Heifetz who is by himself above all of them and that they all would acknowledge this fact without question if asked and many have said it on the record.
Maxim Vengerov. Technical precision meets incredible musical feel.
Hillary Hahn has amazing technique , but always has sounded a touch thin to me.
Yehudi’s tone is so powerful and projecting, it sounds optimistic in a way
And (with all due respect) this is far to be the best Menhuin…
The same Brahms in his prime is just the absolute epitome of violin playing.
You're trolling, right?
Perlman... ❤
closed eyes...
Milstein, Vengerow and Oistrakh top 3
Where was Isaac Stern
Спасибо за интересное сравнение. На мой взгляд Натан Мильштейн интеллектуально всех переиграл (как всегда). Thank you for the interesting comparison. To my mind, Natan Milshtein overplayed intellectually everybody ( as always)
Hahn is even more powerful than the guys; nobody beats Jansen's passion and Shoji's sensitivity.
We’ll power doesn’t have to do anything with gender. Hahn plays closer to the bridge and with more pressure than most which gives her a very nice crispy sound.
Hahn interprets better pre romantic music, no way she can do this concert better than Perlman !!!!!
I like her for bach. But brahm nahh hahn just mid
I heard Shoji's whole concerto and I liked it very much.
But King David still the King
my personal favorites are kachatryan, gluzman, and zimmerman, in that order
david garrett, Julia Fischer
The best one is missing in the list. Szeryng
@stechino123
Thanks for Szeryng! 😉
Agreed.
I like FAT and long sound on these, and Tseng has it perfectly
The ultimate horror of this opening is seen clearly in Heifetz' version. It 's like someone is hesitant to jump into the darkness and finally when he has no choice he just let it go.
Конечно интересно послушать Что тебе ближе Но говорить кто лучше или хуже абсурд, тем более сравнения Титанов с Коллосами
Jansen is so aggressive, in the best way
Interesting to listen,it would be better to let hear more, with the strings crossing ,is more singing and not only technical..as just this introduction..
No Ivry Gitlis? No Zino Francescatti? Why?
And another one for me should be my dear teacher Boris Belkin
Super collation of many fine performances. Jansens’ powerful “bow - forward” entrance is incomparable. However for my money it’s worth adding the full 2021 Vengerov video entrance th-cam.com/video/9L6a-JJCCzw/w-d-xo.html (around 3:30) as the standard setting performance matching passion with technical prowess.
I like (in no particular order) Hahn 2014, Sergey, Heifetz, Milstein, and Fischer best I think.... Also really like kogan with kondrashin 1967, and a live version with Anne Sophie mutter when she was 24
1) i forgot how the intro is "savage".
2) the women Hahn, Shoji, Fischer is solid
3) the boys, it’s not bad, but more dynamics
4) before 1995, too subdued, old style
5) Menuhin, frankly, no
I feel like I am not sophisticated enough to appreciate or even notice the different phrasing but I really feel like I liked Oistrakh the most. Sadly, I feel like the recording quality of the Jansen version biased me against her. Not her playing but the sound quality of that recording was not as good as the rest so hard to tell.
You should add Huberman--who actually played FOR Brahms!
Menhuin for me, followed by Milstein and Oistrakh