THE DATE FORMULA: Platonic to Intimate (in less than 1 hour)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ค. 2024
- This video is a clip from a longer video that is featured inside of Online Dating Academy: toddoda.com
...which is also my complete online dating system, developed over 23 years of experience
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Thanks brother. Love what you do, love you as a person. Thanks for developing fearlessly.
@ToddVDating The GET STARTED button on your funnel isn’t linked properly. You are probably losing conversions.
You’re welcome.
Wondering - do these women know you're recording?
Guys, notice, Todd is cracking jokes at every turn, "so you left him at the altar," "maybe it's you, you drive guys crazy," looks around, "check please," NEVER be serious with a woman. Joke around all the time until they crack/break. (Great body language, he's sitting back. She's leaning forward toward him.) A+ work Bro.
Good advice if you want to hook up with dumb girls, being serious worked for me with girls that actually have a decent personality
The worst is these are the worst jokes I've ever heard in my life. And they work.
so you gotta be oofy doofy all the time? women will get bored pretty quickly if you clown all the time
It was not about making her laugh, she didn't laugh a lot, actually. It was more about showing he was having fun regardless and teasing her(he was not putting her on a pedestal.)
Actually, it seemed like he got this in the bad from the get go, but he intentionally dragged it out to produce his material. From early on, she was showing all the signs that she recognized him as higher value. She was selling herself as damaged goods. When he joked about her not being so bad and taking things slow, she did take it as a rejection. He almost blew it there. He had to recover from it. Even after kissing she was a bit thrown because of it. He had to soothe her feelings about it.
If u cracked jokes every time, it'll lose its effect and also you'll come up as someone who is not be taken serious. The percentage is the key.
Todd is the dating encyclopedia! And it is free! I cant tell how much I aprecciate your public service, Todd!
One tip for long term relationship:
As a woman I don´t say I understand all women´s motifs but I understand the best one.
You love yourself
not for what you say
but for what you feel in present moment
its spontaneity and happiness
woman loves you for the same reason
not for things you say
but for things you feel at the moment, but dont say them
(the things the guy thinks in head subconsciously and unknowingly, without preparation)
with spontaneity and happiness
because if she is a normal nice woman
her only dream is to have a guy who is spontaneous and happy
happy men easily fall in love
Preparation is good, but at the same time its annoying.
Preparation is opposite of spontaneity and happiness.
I mean when you go to buy an ice cream
you feel spontaneous and happy,,
you dont prepare long speech to get the ice cream
you just buy it because you feel spontaneous and happy at the moment
if you buy a car and you start to prepare in your head all the reasons
about why you need car and for what reason and start to analyze everything for two hours
your level of happiness drops down and you feel no joy from buying the car
because of analyzis - paralyzis
the same is about women
they want you to feel happy at the moment, so she may get closer to you, and feel the moment of happiness
because it makes her happy that you can not hide the happiness
because you were not prepared for falling in love with her
no protocol prepared you for falling in love
therefore starts to be spontaneous, because love can not be prepared
starts to have unexpected feelings
but I am not talking about some sex on first date,
I am talking about long term relationships.
this moment of happiness and spontaneity
women dream about
she dreams about guy who dreams about her with a happy thoughts
she doesn´t want a man who is unhappy who doesn´t understand what happiness means etc
The only problem is a chemistry
but even chemistry may come later
if both are humble and nice.
U r a great observer but thing is this as a long term commitment comes into picture spontaneity takes a toll,it seems prison for both of us.Then why women r so jealous if a guy falls in love with other girl,then they should behave more inclusively.
@@alaalfa8839 but I really salute to ur observances....*happy men falls in love *simply 😍 amazing....kudos to u ..just curious about ur age and varied experiences of life...❤
@@alaalfa8839 ,I also observed the same...just a few days before when I was flirting with Two girl together being spontaneous..and happy...and that insight came as a teaching but I forgot it again ,ur comment was once again reminded me .But this society and laws sucks which put sexual shame in girls at such a young age to label it as BAD ...since then with distortion in their mind about hug and kiss they never remained the same naturally and used it as weapon to control men and fulfilling their wishes.The state plays with pur spontaneity
@@alaalfa8839What can be more spontaneous than sex on the first date?
All these videos are helping me realize all the signals from the girls I've missed in past dates. Thinking back and looking at old texts its clear when some were DTF but I was oblivious and thought I needed to drag it out to a 3rd or 4th date. Extending the date, solving logistics along the way, its all so important. Thanks Todd!
Man, Todd, one of your best one of all time mate.
Firstly, she was amazing. It's pretty rare you even get a woman with her vibes, she's actually funny and self aware, yet classy and intriguing.
The way you flip the script, the way you navigate the changing potentials as new information becomes present...
Patience, persistence, intention, reevaluation, equitability, even trust.
And people call game toxic.
Game has pretty much forced me to reconsider every single shortcoming I've ever had - game has made me a man.
I think my biggest take away from this particular video, is that push pull energy is its most powerful when it's coming from a place of authenticity. I can really feel your higher truth. I love how respectful you are too. When you tease, it's always with fun yet makes a serious point about the possibility of your future together. Frankly we owe it to women to make them feel as comfortable as possible, that's one of the most important things a man can provide.
I guess that's the thing about teasing, with the right approach, you can even tease out the truth.
A true master.
I see a key element here, confident masculine women like this talk and talk and talk, and if you do nothing she will make the entire thing platonic. You made it man to woman, that's where I fucked up on my recent date, I let her control the frame, became boring.
I flirted now and then, but it wasn't enough, I should have kept it going constantly, and got her to sit next to me early on, NEVER let them sit facing you, interview mode
I had a similar experience yesterday, the girl was confident and talked a ton but because of this I wasn't able to maintain the man-to-woman vibe and escalate
firstly, i appreciate you man, so much.. im into "game" for quite some time, 11 years ish and in the past 4 years im not consuming content anymore since i am "that guy" already and it doesnt feel so natural anymore to consume content, im just being myself. but for years you have been one of the guys i really resonated with since RSD too and its so precious to see some of your content here and there so thank you for keeping it real man.
secondly, your guys's interaction is so sweet and wholesome, thats what its all about, love it!
Felt that (6 years in)
My boy out here in the trenches for us 💪
100%. i now behave and SHOW my dates that i have one goal in mind (definitely not friendship lol) Sitting next to each other, and topics that make us connect emotionally instead of talking about facts, etc. even go for a kiss in the middle of the date
Correct. Here's a trick I use. I make it very clear I'm not interested in a female friend. "Man to woman" now we can talk about sexual dynamics. I don't believe a man and woman can be truly plutonic. Now you're talking about sex, and making it clear what You're after.
Todd is the GOAT, he’s been the technical game wizard for like, over a decade. Thanks for all the hard work from you and your team
I'm trying not to be negative because you're so positive. But somewhere around 15 minutes into this date I'd be done.
agreed. I wasn't feeling it either. she talking about her ex and nothing else would've def turned me off.
Subtitle is helpful. It was firmed clear. You look and charm and playful. Thank you! ❤
The Toddfather doing it again, great content as always.
thats a nickname we should keep using
Lmao I was watching that episode of Stranger Things just an hour ago
I really like seeing this. I know its supposed to be educational and all that, but seeing it unfold practically is fun to watch and listen to even while im doing something else. Idk, maybe its the sense that two people are having fun. Plus its helping understand the concepts more.
I'd like to see more of these. Even if you don't explain step by step what you're doing.
y’all need to take notes. this stuff is GOLLDD. Breaking down step by step. I need to elevate my mouth piece and problem solving lol
This dating video is brilliant, and it reminds me of Tyler from RSD and how he breaks down similar dating interactions. Thanks for an awesome breakdown on this video.🤙
This is what such a guru as Todd can get. The dating reality is harsh and cruel.
This is the first video that I watch of your. I almost never comment, but your unique aproach to teaching how to seduce women deserves it. Thank you for filming the-way-you-do-the-job, because the know-how is there, not in millions and millions of words with no demonstrations. Greetings from Mendoza, Argentina.
Very in depth infield amazing work man keep up the good work you the man
It's called anxious attachment.
Thank you for filming your date! Nice to see it in action1
It's crazy how Todd keeps his frame, even when women that have been rammed through before keeps babbling about their exes and all the garbage we have no interest in! I would've probably just left her there 😆 But Todd manages to hang in there without losing his mind! 👏
Why lose your mind mate? Women share their previous experience as a reference. It's normal
HUGE RED FLAG. She left him and put the blame on him.
It is actually super boring and makes me visibly tired, and the girl can see it in me lol
@@evilzinabyssranger5695 It's fine if you're just going through for the night ha
See, now this was a great video. Lots of actual stuff that will work consistently. Thanks TODD!
Does anyone else have bad vibe bout the girl, cause I can't shake the feeling how shes so inside of her head and vulnerable like she literally on edge of breaking apart.
Pretty sure she's had seen some shit and has low self-esteem. For me that's huge red flag cause that type of girls don't make any sense and usually are waste of effort. I've been with girls like that who are emotionally driven and hunger for attention till they can push you away so they get the feeling they have some kind of control of their life.
Todd played it well in the end when this girls "push" was about to happen by taking control of the moment, and it worked perfectly.
"Play the game, Never let the game play you"
The rizz is crazy…. Todd is the goat.
Todd's big weakness is that he treats it like a science; it's all about mental strategy and manipulation to him. He doesn't understand the power of TOUCH to escalate things much quicker, and his emotional game is also not the best. He's still a great teacher though.
Description of a psychopathic personality. 100% correct on your assessment.
I don't believe he's crossed the threshold to actual psychopathy, but he certainly lacks emotion and is probably high up on the spectrum.
I've got a friend who's a master. I took a page out of his book with a handful of sober courage and creativity while in a temporary work situation and had ecstasy for 5 years.
Quickly, you mentioned past dates real quick like..that different than talking about a ex..that's huge!!
Great footage and analysis 🔥
damn todd even be rizzing me up on this one
Todd it would be cool to see a few screenshots of the messages that were sent back and forth on the dating app to get some context of the girl prior to meeting her. Great video by the way!
PLEASE more date content, Todd. So little out there on dates.
I'm a bit introverted and i find very chatty women like this mentally exhausting and draining after about 20 to 30 minutes. Extroverts are right at home, I get it. Smart women know men don't always want to be dragged into an overly chatty conversation like theyd have with their girlfriends. Just an observation. But I continue to work on my charisma and banter and patients with exhausting people. Todd definitely has the gift of gab, Ido not, but im working on it and slowly improving.
She’s definitely a bit annoying, but it’s possible she’s just nervous. I personally would never go on a date with a woman who talks that much- and if you’re introverted you should probably go for women who are more like you. In fact, that’s kind of the point of dating.
This is a really interesting point! I think first you have to find someone that gives you energy and then use the tips you learn here to make sure that you build attraction. Rather than trying to attract anyone for the sake of being attractive
Man I went on a date with this girl a while ago, and she's the one who asked me out. We had fun on the date, we laughed, teased each other, talked, the vibe was really nice. But the date stayed platonic because my dumb ass didn't go for a kiss. At the end of the date, she initiated a hug by almost pouncing at me into a hug, and hugged me tightly for around 3-4 seconds. And my stupid ass just said goodbye to her and left. And only the next day I was thinking about it, and I realized "Oh my god, she was probably hoping I'd kiss her." Please tell me how much of an idiot I am! 😂 On the bright side, we texted each other afterwards and agreed to go out again this week. Next time I absolutely have to go for the kiss.
Nah man don't just for the kiss, go for the bang
Yeah you f up, but sitting side by side without any clear signals and just talking can f things up. Can be hard to read her.
@@Trump-A-Bad-MF Like you ever did on the first date lol
We’ve all fucked up like that. I’ve even called it out before and messaged the girl that I thought she seemed disappointed I didn’t kiss her. Made it way easier next time and led to good things ;).
That said I had a bs platonic date last night with another girl who seemed into it but was hard to judge because of culture difference. My fault tho. Not enough premise. Too logic. Not getting ahead of the curve on logistics, etc.
You’re not alone lol
Bro... I went on this date with a russian girl that I met in daygame in my country (she was travelling) and the date was going well in the sense that it wasn't boring, but everytime I tried to introduce some premise in the conversation, it wouldn't work and she would end the conversation loot, forcing me to restart. At the end of the date, I took her to her hotel, went upstairs because I "needed to use the bathroom", but then she said goodbye and my stupid ass folded to her bluff and I got out without even a kiss. Fast forward 3 years to yesterday, and she was visiting my country again, I invite her to come to my office (where I was working late hours) to "give her a hug before she leaves", and the conversation went platonic again and again. I kept trying, but there was no way I could turn the conversation sexual for whatever reason, so instead of doing what I did back in 2020 and leaving empty handed, I started escalating physically (touching her knee, grabbing hands, etc...) and then went for a kiss (which I usually don't do unless I'm pretty certain she wants it) and she kissed me back. 15 minutes later we were having sex in my room. Point of the story is that some girls are just much more shy talking about sex, than actually doing it.
I usually bring up dating/relationship topics about 30 minutes into the first date, which can help make it less platonic, due to the conversational topic... But it's not a cure-all. You still need to TEASE. If you're super literal and straight-forward when talking about your past relationships or what you like in a girl, etc, that is still a BORING convo that's not gonna create the right energy.
I love that it’s an actual real situation rather than PowerPoint style
This is like watching porn to me. So much goes on in the mind. The girl loved you for your ability to make her feel normal again and not causing men to freak out. A reset?
Todd love’s international women! 😂 Great vibe and playfulness in this interaction. 💯
That's cause someone of his smv can't bag a western woman, European women will be easier
@@Swiminator_08 Really? I thought just by the accent, the girl is of Mexican or Cuban descent
@@rdu239 makes even more sense then, south American girls are the easiest
@@Swiminator_08 Western women can be bagged by anyone, of course hotter ones are harder but western women are easy AF for any race, even if you don't have game
@@TerryLouiswiththethickness what makes you think that
this guy really teached me something😮
Thank you so much Todd🙏
I try to have at least a slight form of escalation right at the beginning. I wonder why it was left at the very end.
Todd? God of Dating 🤧
Todd, can you do a video on how to transition from platonic to non-platonic. I don't understand this even conceptually, let alone not having practical techniques.
how did you reseed going back to hers if you've already used the excuse of food in her area if you've had food where you are?
Brilliant lines bruh
Excellent, thanks
Damn brother you are smooth with it
Hey guys I'm trying online dating if a girl asks for my number online do you think itsca good idea to give it to her?
Todd V def has a type that are on these dates with him, lol. Eastern Euro, Russian, etc. I'm sure there are many other types, but I'm seeing a trend, lol. Btw, I'm a fit, clean cut all American whiteboy with Germanic features and I absolutely attract a type...Asians.
THIS HAPPENED TO ME ONCE WOW!!! THANKS
I could teach this teacher a LOT about being a sincere authentic man. ...and my partners have lasted about 8 years average....classy well raised ladies who were all models at some point. However...for a shallow man he is smart.
He is authentic. It's not really possible to like, fake a personality and women will see through the act.
She sounds... Kind of toxik 😂
My problem is, I can sometimes be on a roll and killing it, and other times, I got nothing. I don't know how to be "on" every time.
Imagine going on a nice date with someone who seems quite nice then finding out they secretly filmed you and post sleazy pick up artist videos on TH-cam. No wonder this guy goes on so many dates. They all dump him when they find out what he does.
bro, love your videos and they have really helped me. Genuine question though, do you ever wish to find someone to share a serious relationship with and build a life with? I could imagine that eventually you will be older and probably wish you had a partner when the days of game are over. Thoughts?
Also curious about the same question as this is actually what really takes a lot of effort from both parties.
I think he has a serious partner, whom he even has a child with. He just keeps gaming on the side.
Todd has a girl and a kid. I'm not sure if he's legally married, but he definitely has a vvoman behind the scenes. He teaches pickup to pay the bills.
I believe Todd has a serious long-term open relationship (with a kid, as the others said)
@@joshspiker interesting scenario. All right, thank you.
This date didn't end up with you going home with her though right? I assume you spent quite a lot of time at the restaurant and then it was quite late for her to even invite you home? I might be wrong, great video regardless!
6:50 wow man that's so serious skill ngl 👍🏼👍🏼
People brought up Tate, but Tate isn’t a dating coach. He’s more of a men’s rights movement activist or even extremist. But Todd is full of techniques. Most of the conversations are boring and the small flirt and teases and frame controls are the game, not the flash stuff
Listening to her, she is definitely crazy 😂. Probably a lot of fun though.
Eastern European: check
Weird double highlight thing in hair: check
Saying ex was crazy: check
Joking she is crazy but cannot stand silence: check
....
Dating crazy girls is easy.
Thats why they are still single.
Just note the red flags, pay for your drink and get the hell out
when is week 2 coming out in the program?
Wondering the same
I'll be sending out an email to you guys with details soon
Can't wait for this program to COMMENCE
like a girl who works 50 m away from our office campus but we dont know each other ,she boards metro from same place i board , few days back i approched her , i sat in left side of her, i started conversations, about the city , restaurants, scenic beauties available there , her interest regarding some specific areas, but could not tease her much as we are in crowded metro , conversations continued for 30 min , she was communicating with a few words only , after we got down i dint feel to ask for her number as she was engaging enough during conversations, may be she is an introvert , she was saying 2/3 words answers only , i left saying bye,
After 10,12 days, i approached her again , asked to join me tomorrow in metro on our way to the office as our office in the same location, she said she wont come to office for a week r more, i took breath and left , what is your opinion?
Don’t stress, most likely she isn’t into you
There is something I'm missing, I remember Todd was married, am I wrong?
Anyway I want to highlight the open-mindness of this girl, I tried these kind of approaches on so many girls, I mean being polarizing, giving them shit, teasing them, they immediately get defensive and you cannot joke anymore, it looks like polarizing also works as a screening mechanism, the more defensive gets the girl, the more insecure she is, the less defensive she is the more open-minded and experienced she is
I believe he is in an open marriage
These approaches can alienate a lot of women. I've got unmatched on Tinder more than once for being too aggressive when maybe just some pleasant convo would have been better. Yet I have also had some luck with saying outrageously sexual things. It is sometimes hard to read what approach is going to work best because they give so little to go on in their profile. It is a roll of the dice.
@@theotormon I got you, unmatched by women happened to me too, but online is different because when you do these things online it is easy to be misunderstood, you should always use emojis, saying that you are joking and things like these. Normal convo does not work and it is not the way to interact with women, because if you do normal convo it is boring and they put you in the friendzone, you have to learn how to balance the two things, you should be a bit instigating and a bit normal, anyway I personally deleted all the dating app, to me online is completely useless
@@marioottaiano475you may of hooked a feminist on your line brother, you throw them back in the pond, nothing lost. Remember, we are all looking for compatibility 0-100%, 100 being soulmate status. If she isn’t around 70-80% compatible after 2-3 showings, it would be easier raising children than say married to a women who is 50% compatible with you. The higher the compatibility over 70% the easier life will be. An off the cuff question to ask a women when she least expects it, ( after she laughs ) is why have you rejected some men after the 1st date, then after she answers, follow up with why have some men rejected you after 1st date. Watch her facial expressions, listen for honesty, you may not get it but if she’s able to reflect on her past clearly without becoming emotional, you could be onto a good thing.
@@midnightspares I'm not a native English speaker, so I'm not 100% sure if I got what you wrote, just because of a grammar problem, but if I correctly got you 90% of the women I met are feminist. I think it is more a cultural problem, there are certain countries in which people are more independent thinker and open-minded and other countries in which people are stucked in 1400 with their mentality, anyway I agree with you, I use a lot body language reading to "scan" people in general and not just women, because people lie a lot, the body language does not lie
A) how are you mic’d up during all this lol.
B) Let’s see this on some American women that aren’t looking for a green card.
Just kidding buddy great videos I appreciate the help with game!
Interesting channel
You Master!
Can Todd get slender 20yo student girls, with his game?
Yes
I think he can get pretty much most of girls. He is flirting god man
@@Klarity_0 But he shows only 30-something milfs, immigrant girls etc.
He's a charlatan
@vklnew 98 how. I mean he's showing his work
Empty chatter is a super power. I wouldn't even have been able to do the deed if I talked to her this long about nothing. The fact that she could talk this long about nothing would have turned me right off.
Off you...???? what is the expression?
Todd is the real rizz god😆💯
Where is she from originally?
Bro you just sitting there looking to smooth haha love it
How convenient there was a camera placed for evidence for us to see.
I am coming to America 😊😊
I like Todd and his stuff but this seems a little set up. Like where was this? How did you record it? How is the audio so good? Did you get her approval to show this?
I believe the answers to your questions would be: (1) A hotel lounge in NYC. (2) A cameraman followed Todd with a camera and recorded it. (3) Todd had a mic on his person. (4) No, hence why she is blurred out and personal information is censored.
SERIOUS QUESTION ! why does it seem like Todd never drives? he uses uber all the time would someone explain?
Drinking and traffic, may not have car.
In cities it's not necessary to have a car and it's an headache to park (in Europe at least). Public transport should be enough. His city even seems to have a subway so yeah
This was in NYC. I think most people who live in NYC don't have a car
Tell yout spy to use a insta 360 is small camera and super descreat and with very good quality
Bro…my question is always. WHY do you even want to sleep with these chicks Todd. You’re a master….but there’s no way you actually find these people interesting or worthy of you. I got so bored of pickup bc of this.
Damn it’s in the Bowery. I was very close to you Todd. But hadn’t chances to meet with you. So unlucky I’m
Why is he breaking down a failed pickup?😅
The girl kept rejecting him and didn't even give her number?
This was an L bro!😅
This has to be one of the most cringe interactions I've ever witnessed lmao. Like two horrible actors in the pilot episode of a TV show that never airs or something.
@@roscoedash6673 she basically used him for a free uber ride 😅
3:26 in and I would have just stood and walk away
Holy shit I want Part 2
Whoever speaks the most, loses.
The girls is really energetic and artistic. Actually it s rare to find someone like her. I like her voice expressions
nice!
10:00 - you can just hear how she is trying hard. That is when you know you have it, good sign 😀
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I thought the title said: "THE DATE FORMULA: Platonic to Inmate"! 😂
She is actually a red flag! 😢
I kissed a girl yesterday. It was nice.
I feel like your game works because she can’t keep up with what your saying at some points
I LOVE you Todd XP
Recently I think a stumbled upon a method for getting attraction from girls using my Spotify profile to convey a ton shit of stuff, it depends on managing mystery and sending indirect messages through song lyrics and the girls I STALK tend to change their habits and start posting songs with lyrics following the storyline, obviously I make at some point before this kinda obvious that I am referring to them using playlist titles and or songs they have on their own Spotify profiles or Instagram stories and also send them songs to spark their interest in my Spotify profile. It is a way of working around the ghost cause I get ghosted a lot. But currently I could say that it may we'll be gaming a renowned porn actress and a renowned twitch streamer 🤙🏻 😆
Weird. Are you confusing yourself on purpose? Just go out and get eye contact. Be yourself and act natural. Of course you long for babes, but oh brother, how about being a man first? (Sorry if I picked up the vibe wrong! Just guessing...)
guys u do know todd has a wife and kid right ?
yes so?
It’s surprising he gets dates as he looks pretty old now and it’s so competitive
My marriage is in a very bad place right now. My wife takes me for granted and treat me like crap. And she does whatever she wants. I feel so bad. Please can you help
Me? We also have a child .
I don’t have any advice unfortunately as I’ve never been in this situation, but I know it’s a very common thing. Did it change with the arrival of the baby? Or was it at a different point in time?
Have you seen a marriage counselor yet?
@@Fred-zt5ky we’re married 7 years but we’re together for 12 years our daughter is 6 years now. We had some problems in life snd ups and downs like anyone else. But last easter she came to me and said se wanted a break because she lost feelings since than things escalated and she treading me like crap. No connection at all
@@jdnrotterdam2150does she ever initiate physical contact?
You expect marital advice from a whole bunch of virgins, you have better chance asking Todd to teach you how to write a love letter. No offense.
A Woman that is talking by herself is like fishing from a tank
Seemed like a lot of work just to go for a food pull after a… bar date? I was expecting more from this clip.
Bro i like your content but this time i have a doubt:
She looks like already into you, in the beginning, she's so talkative, are you sure that what you did before this video isn't the reason she's attracted to you?
Where was she from bud? Nice accent.
Was here wondering the same.. South American perhaps
The Netherlands... or maybe Nordic.
@@gfunkin2 the "fult" "yuh know" "vey" is slav/russisn/ukrainian for sure.
Definitely not from the Netherlands. Sounds Eastern European or from the Balkans…
She sounds Russian or Polish
You did force it by being you!