I’m 61 and a former professional athlete, a rugby player, a sprinter, and gained muscle easily up to my 40s. I still lift weights today but it is very very hard to keep the muscle, i have never used steds- Tyson must be on steds or something to look like that- i hope he puts Paul in hospital
That's awesome glad you're still lifting man! Yeah exactly, the decrease in test that happens naturally would making something like Mike Tysons changes impossible in my opinion, I fully hope so too so we can end this pathetic excuse of a fighter
I am 54yrs and recently returned to weight training after losing 3 stone of fat. My muscle memory kicked back in and my muscle size returned in a short period of time. To roughly the same size I was 15yrs ago. The biggest difference is the tightness of my skin. It takes longer to get a tight defined look. Especially lower and outer pecs. And the tie in to the front delta. I do not take any supplements not even a protein shake. So the intensity of Mike, and the fact that he has never really stopped training. I am not surprised by his physique. And TRT is nowhere near as powerful as what Paul has be on. Imo and experience you are wrong. Compare Mike with the juiced up Rock 52yrs....do you see the difference.?
Glad you've returned to training that's really good, that's an interesting point tbf. I understand where you are coming from but TRT if thats all hes on will still have an impact on performance because he should still be retired at this point! You're entitled to your opinion but TRT is still a drug is it not? Again I get your point but the rock is doing that solely for muscle mass, there would be no point in a boxer having that physique.
@@weightinglist 👍Thanks But you do not know enough to make the judgement on Mike. TRT in case studies, not hype, is not comparable to the anabolic effect of steroids around today. And I see nothing in the Tyson physique to say he is on steroids. That is why I brought the Rock at 52yrs into it. You seem to believe that a 50+ body cannot look like that from continuous hard training. I think this is because the Tic-Tocking minds of today do not realise that size and strength, naturally, can be very hard to achieve. And because this is beyond them when they enter the gym. They just juice up and train badly on TH-cam. This puts out a message that it cannot be achieved without roids of some kind. Especially by those that are older....and for much older it is deemed impossible. And did you really understand the issue with the aging skin.?...the nipple is attached to the skin. When you are 50yrs you will understand the changes in your skin on a very personal level😁
Test doesn't decline as much as you might think. At 54, I went for TRT, and I was declined. That being said, he should be on something. If not, he's stupid.
@@ermeriodsassperini 👍 A very gradual drop off from age 30....increased decline late 70s to 80s. And if TRT is taken in large quantities in injectable form. It doesn't stack like Gym used Anabolics....ask Paul, he knows😁
They may not decline purely based on test levels though there's many factors as to why things like that aren't initiated. Yeah definitely he's gotta win this and thats how he'll improve his chances
Jake Paul is probably fine with more negative opinions about him after this fight because he just wants to make the most amount of money possible in the least amount of time.
Tyson is 5'8 and weights 230lbs in fairly lean muscle at 60 years of age. If you've done your reaserch then you'd know that Tyson openly speak about TRT and he actualy promote some clinic implementing this procedure.
If you'd done your research you'd know hes 58 and not 60. Yes but TRT is not the same as steroids and other PEDs (performance enhancing drugs) so I see you've missed the point of this video
@@weightinglist I know he is 58 I just round it, but If you would do your research you'd know that TRT is based on implementing artificial teststeron so in fact that is steroid or PED and we dont know what doses he's on, therefore you missed a lot of points in your video.
@teanshin TRT is designed to give you normal test levels not through the roof allowing you to look absolutely massive and lean at the same time. Yeah I missed the TRT part because that isnt the same as steroids? It's not high enough dose to provide the same effect as anabolics
He was almost 25kg heavier than Tyson when he was off season and is a bodybuilder specifically targeting size, Mike Tyson is not so I dont see your point
You know br'o its a myth that testo levels drop if you do your work and don't get some sickness. And actually Tyson doesn't looks like steroid guy. Don't judge other only because you have dad sloppy body. Im 55 ripped as fuck, in my best shape ever. And have ever use steroids, im just do my work and eat good.
I'm sorry to tell you but scientifically that just isn't correct, its just a fact that test levels drop and its been proven in multiple peer reviewed studies. He looks similar to how he looked when he was 25 and that just isn't realistic. Good for you I'm glad that you're doing well but 30 years ago if you did the same things you were doing now there's no doubt you'd be bigger/stronger
@@weightinglist Studies show a gradual decline from age 30. And increased decline 70s to 80s. Mike is on TRT. And TRT is nothing like a Gym used Anabolic, that is hype. And the injectable form doesn't stack like those Anabolic Steroids. That is why nobody is bragging about using TRT....or selling it, in the Gym. And TRT mainly helps to retain existing muscle mass. It make muscles look fuller. Give a slight increase in hypertrophy in active people, more in the sedentary obviously. But a part of this growth is because of the increased stamina and cardio effects. This also results in weight loss because higher intensity training can be achieved and sustained. So imo... 90% Mike and 10% TRT = a 70-75% version of Classic Tyson for the fight. What you see is achievable by a 50+ year old without hardcore roids. Paul on the other hand has definitely used a whole menu of roids. And his body hasn't reacted in the way he thought it would😁
@@mathiasakerstrom8632 👍 54yrs. People seem to believe that 50+ cannot be in good shape and strong without roids. This is because they went to the Gym and realised naturally gaining strengh and size is hard work....and beyond them. So they conclude nobody can do it, young or old....especially not 58yr old Iron Mike, who has trained hard all his life.
I’m 61 and a former professional athlete, a rugby player, a sprinter, and gained muscle easily up to my 40s. I still lift weights today but it is very very hard to keep the muscle, i have never used steds- Tyson must be on steds or something to look like that- i hope he puts Paul in hospital
That's awesome glad you're still lifting man! Yeah exactly, the decrease in test that happens naturally would making something like Mike Tysons changes impossible in my opinion, I fully hope so too so we can end this pathetic excuse of a fighter
even if he's on steroids u wouldn't survive a half of his lightest workout
Yes I even said I'm not a boxer so I'd be useless I've only ever powerlifted it's totally different but whats your point?
My point is that is useless to speculate if he's on steroids or not, it change nothing
Don't forget, Tyson is a unike athlete, there is absolute nothing average about him!
I completely agree but he is 58 now and should be as big and lean as he is currently haha
They both are so it's even
Exactly, JP is 100% on steroids
Yeah that's fair, sure no one cares too much at this point but thought I'd bring it up anyway haha
In july tyson look like me now is like beast on the apple juice lol
Hahaha yeah he's got to be tbh
is he? oh definitely
I am 54yrs and recently returned to weight training after losing 3 stone of fat.
My muscle memory kicked back in and my muscle size returned in a short period of time. To roughly the same size I was 15yrs ago.
The biggest difference is the tightness of my skin. It takes longer to get a tight defined look. Especially lower and outer pecs. And the tie in to the front delta.
I do not take any supplements not even a protein shake.
So the intensity of Mike, and the fact that he has never really stopped training. I am not surprised by his physique.
And TRT is nowhere near as powerful as what Paul has be on.
Imo and experience you are wrong.
Compare Mike with the juiced up Rock 52yrs....do you see the difference.?
Glad you've returned to training that's really good, that's an interesting point tbf. I understand where you are coming from but TRT if thats all hes on will still have an impact on performance because he should still be retired at this point! You're entitled to your opinion but TRT is still a drug is it not? Again I get your point but the rock is doing that solely for muscle mass, there would be no point in a boxer having that physique.
@@weightinglist
👍Thanks
But you do not know enough to make the judgement on Mike.
TRT in case studies, not hype, is not comparable to the anabolic effect of steroids around today.
And I see nothing in the Tyson physique to say he is on steroids. That is why I brought the Rock at 52yrs into it.
You seem to believe that a 50+ body cannot look like that from continuous hard training.
I think this is because the Tic-Tocking minds of today do not realise that size and strength, naturally, can be very hard to achieve.
And because this is beyond them when they enter the gym. They just juice up and train badly on TH-cam.
This puts out a message that it cannot be achieved without roids of some kind. Especially by those that are older....and for much older it is deemed impossible.
And did you really understand the issue with the aging skin.?...the nipple is attached to the skin.
When you are 50yrs you will understand the changes in your skin on a very personal level😁
Yes he is. Scary lmao
Hahaha very I wouldn't want to fight him haha
Bro his traps are bigger then when he was in his 20s
I think he’s natural, he’s obviously trained his whole life and has always been thick and shredded
That's fair enough, he was always a big guy I just think hes a little too big and vascular for his age thats all
Jake Paul will have revive Mike Tyson from a come for round 6
Hahaha I'm kinda hoping Mike wins tbh so Jake Paul can give up this nonsense
@ I think at this point he’s never going to leave it will require loosing to KSI or something
Yeah probably right tbf man so boring
Test doesn't decline as much as you might think. At 54, I went for TRT, and I was declined. That being said, he should be on something. If not, he's stupid.
@@ermeriodsassperini
👍 A very gradual drop off from age 30....increased decline late 70s to 80s.
And if TRT is taken in large quantities in injectable form.
It doesn't stack like Gym used Anabolics....ask Paul, he knows😁
They may not decline purely based on test levels though there's many factors as to why things like that aren't initiated. Yeah definitely he's gotta win this and thats how he'll improve his chances
Jake Paul is probably fine with more negative opinions about him after this fight because he just wants to make the most amount of money possible in the least amount of time.
You're not wrong there, the lack of self respect he has is unreal haha
Tyson is 5'8 and weights 230lbs in fairly lean muscle at 60 years of age. If you've done your reaserch then you'd know that Tyson openly speak about TRT and he actualy promote some clinic implementing this procedure.
If you'd done your research you'd know hes 58 and not 60. Yes but TRT is not the same as steroids and other PEDs (performance enhancing drugs) so I see you've missed the point of this video
@@weightinglist I know he is 58 I just round it, but If you would do your research you'd know that TRT is based on implementing artificial teststeron so in fact that is steroid or PED and we dont know what doses he's on, therefore you missed a lot of points in your video.
@teanshin TRT is designed to give you normal test levels not through the roof allowing you to look absolutely massive and lean at the same time. Yeah I missed the TRT part because that isnt the same as steroids? It's not high enough dose to provide the same effect as anabolics
I think he is 5 10
Look at Dorian Yates age 62
He was almost 25kg heavier than Tyson when he was off season and is a bodybuilder specifically targeting size, Mike Tyson is not so I dont see your point
i think mike was dope when he was in his prime so why to change now
Thats a fair point especially as Jake looks to be on juice already
You know br'o its a myth that testo levels drop if you do your work and don't get some sickness. And actually Tyson doesn't looks like steroid guy. Don't judge other only because you have dad sloppy body. Im 55 ripped as fuck, in my best shape ever. And have ever use steroids, im just do my work and eat good.
I'm sorry to tell you but scientifically that just isn't correct, its just a fact that test levels drop and its been proven in multiple peer reviewed studies. He looks similar to how he looked when he was 25 and that just isn't realistic. Good for you I'm glad that you're doing well but 30 years ago if you did the same things you were doing now there's no doubt you'd be bigger/stronger
Well than we read different science, Testo is not the only hormon for gaining muscle. I think you missed the homework.
I didn't say it is the only hormone I said the levels drop which they do?
@@weightinglist
Studies show a gradual decline from age 30. And increased decline 70s to 80s.
Mike is on TRT. And TRT is nothing like a Gym used Anabolic, that is hype.
And the injectable form doesn't stack like those Anabolic Steroids.
That is why nobody is bragging about using TRT....or selling it, in the Gym.
And TRT mainly helps to retain existing muscle mass. It make muscles look fuller.
Give a slight increase in hypertrophy in active people, more in the sedentary obviously.
But a part of this growth is because of the increased stamina and cardio effects.
This also results in weight loss because higher intensity training can be achieved and sustained.
So imo...
90% Mike and 10% TRT = a 70-75% version of Classic Tyson for the fight.
What you see is achievable by a 50+ year old without hardcore roids.
Paul on the other hand has definitely used a whole menu of roids. And his body hasn't reacted in the way he thought it would😁
@@mathiasakerstrom8632
👍 54yrs.
People seem to believe that 50+ cannot be in good shape and strong without roids.
This is because they went to the Gym and realised naturally gaining strengh and size is hard work....and beyond them.
So they conclude nobody can do it, young or old....especially not 58yr old Iron Mike, who has trained hard all his life.
58 is not that old to be lean and cut Mike trains all day and he’s on trt
Yeah but he's absolutely huge and lean it just doesn't add up
Sorry Jake Paul is a reasonably decent boxer, not championship level but he can certainly box.
Yeah no doubt but against someone who is pro and not retired I think he'd get totalled
my father is 75 and he looks beter than him hes all natural
I don't wanna say that's not realistic but I've never seen him so couldn't say...
@@weightinglist i get you brother but i dont need to lie its your choise will you belive or not
Fair enough, I respect it! Thanks for commenting appreciate it
Of course he is. Just saved 10 mins of your time
Well done, it's not like I made any other valid points
who cares.
Quite a few people from the looks of the comments
Why are you even making this video haha
Why not? Haven't seen anyone talking about it