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No I never ever use kiln wash!! I like to flip my shelves every year or 2, and if you put kiln wash on a shelf, you can basically never flip it!! So instead I just use a "dry kiln wash", which is sometimes straight silica, or alumina hydrate, or a mix of the 2. Does the same trick, but way easier to clean off of the shelf!! ☺️
Do you have a picture of the bags you use on the shelf so I know what I'm looking for I'm new to plates and trying to figure out the best way to fire with my small kiln. Thank you in advance
I went to Amazon.com and found a wonderful tripod...and also an adapter that holds my Droid phone for recording. That could come in handy for you when you demonstrate how to load your kiln. Thanks for this video. I am searching for a place to plug my tiny kiln and and get going on my own...this is very informative. I have taken up exhaling, too.
just my usual: preprogramed high ramp! I think the cooling is more important for watching cracking (you know how you can hear pings etc in the cooling kiln?) Also, I line my shelves with a silica/alumina blend (not kiln wash, but dry powder) and that helps things slide along the shelf nicely.
nah...you can cool a bisque (or any kiln for that matter) relatively quickly for most of the cooling process, just be careful when passing through the quartz conversion. of course it will cool slightly slower, but not significantly enough to complain about it!
So Amy, I was loading my kiln with plates and started to try your method then chickened out last minute and stacked them on top of each other flat(which was new for me too) because I had a fear they would warp. Do you not get any warpage? Does it depend on the clay? I use white stoneware. By the way, I am enjoying your videos, great tips.
I would NEVER stack them and fire them flat. My plates would definitely crack that way!! No, I don't get any warpage. If I did, it would be in the final fire: memory from warpage during the wet clay stage, not anything that happened in the bisque. The pots do not change in the bisque. They don't shrink at all. As long as the rims of your plates are strong, they can stand being stacked upright!! It is the most efficient and way better for minimizing cracking!! ❤️❤️❤️
Another way to make sure you do not get any warpage is to use plaster or preferably hydro stone bats. You don't have to pull a wire underneath the plate or platter (which is a big contributor to warpage) and the pieces dry very evenly.
Hey Amy do you get any warping or ‘s’ cracks with this method? I was also told “don’t throw plates.....!” Most people told me nightmare stories about warping or bulging and cracking... thanks 🤗
@@AmyPalatnick hey thank you so much for your reply. I’m much more confident throwing plates now and I’ve been using your firing method for 4 years!! We call it the ‘Platenick’ method 🥰🥰😘😘🌟
wow, and the kiln can still heat evenly with the plates right against the wall? i'm new to having my own kiln...got a nice old one that needed rewiring. it won't turn on...so i'm still new at having a kiln! lol
I was wondering the same. I was told never to let anything touch the kiln walls because it could potentially cause damage to the kiln. But I was also told that you needed to have an escape hole for air or else the piece would break, and I've recently learned that's not *necessarily* true.
Juli Long, i almost always fire plates with larger things like teapots and pitchers. i load big stuff on the top and bottom of the kiln, and plates in the middle. i can fit 3-4 plates (mixing dinner and salad plates) per shelf, and usually have 4-5 shelves stacked that way per load. so, 12-20 plates per load, no plate setters!! i have some silica on the shelves to help with easy sliding of the foot as it shrinks. oh, and i never use kiln wash!!! :)
BettyJ , kaowool is a blanket made of (i believe) spun kaolin. it is a high-temperature resistant material that is soft, kind of like fiberglass insulation. it can be fired in a kiln with no change to it. so if you have a delicate rim, you can put some kaowool under the rims and they will be supported by it. people use kaowool to plug up holes in kilns, to finish closing the doors of kilns…you can tear it, smoosh it…cool stuff!! worth having a little bit around. :)
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Wow! I had NO IDEA I could place my plates up against the wall of the kiln!! Thanks for the video!
Yay! Glad it helped!!
Thank you so much for posting this video! I just tried your technique with some plates and it made a huge difference!!
yay!! awesome, glad to hear it. game changer!!
I enjoy your videos! You love it as much as I do! Awesome!!
Thanks Frank! Have fun out there!! ☺️
No I never ever use kiln wash!! I like to flip my shelves every year or 2, and if you put kiln wash on a shelf, you can basically never flip it!! So instead I just use a "dry kiln wash", which is sometimes straight silica, or alumina hydrate, or a mix of the 2. Does the same trick, but way easier to clean off of the shelf!! ☺️
Do you have a picture of the bags you use on the shelf so I know what I'm looking for I'm new to plates and trying to figure out the best way to fire with my small kiln. Thank you in advance
I went to Amazon.com and found a wonderful tripod...and also an adapter that holds my Droid phone for recording. That could come in handy for you when you demonstrate how to load your kiln. Thanks for this video. I am searching for a place to plug my tiny kiln and and get going on my own...this is very informative. I have taken up exhaling, too.
Tari Huffaker yes, i obviously need to invest in some equipment!! but i did get that smoke detector battery changed, finally!!! :)
LOL...that tripod only cost me $15...that attachment ...the same. So for $30 You get a pretty nice starter set up.
Hi Amy! Do you have a video showing how you load glazed and decorated plates into the kiln?
No not yet!! It will be pretty boring, but I can film it next time!! 😀
I'm curious too...
This is a great way to use kiln space
totally!
Hi Amy, thanks for the video a real eye opener! Is it possible to do your technique with thin porcelain plates as well?
i don't see why not!! there is no shrinkage in the bisque, so no shape change. try it with a handful before you do 50 though!!
They would probably stick together for porcelain temperature.
Amy, what kind of firing schedule do you use when firing plates and platters?
just my usual: preprogramed high ramp! I think the cooling is more important for watching cracking (you know how you can hear pings etc in the cooling kiln?)
Also, I line my shelves with a silica/alumina blend (not kiln wash, but dry powder) and that helps things slide along the shelf nicely.
Does that make the cool down take a long time from all the thermal mass?
nah...you can cool a bisque (or any kiln for that matter) relatively quickly for most of the cooling process, just be careful when passing through the quartz conversion.
of course it will cool slightly slower, but not significantly enough to complain about it!
So Amy, I was loading my kiln with plates and started to try your method then chickened out last minute and stacked them on top of each other flat(which was new for me too) because I had a fear they would warp. Do you not get any warpage? Does it depend on the clay? I use white stoneware. By the way, I am enjoying your videos, great tips.
I would NEVER stack them and fire them flat. My plates would definitely crack that way!!
No, I don't get any warpage. If I did, it would be in the final fire: memory from warpage during the wet clay stage, not anything that happened in the bisque. The pots do not change in the bisque. They don't shrink at all.
As long as the rims of your plates are strong, they can stand being stacked upright!! It is the most efficient and way better for minimizing cracking!!
❤️❤️❤️
Ok, next time I will try it! Thanks for the reply. :D
Robin Cherfanehow many did you stack? were they ok that way?
3 and 4. Came out just fine :)
Another way to make sure you do not get any warpage is to use plaster or preferably hydro stone bats. You don't have to pull a wire underneath the plate or platter (which is a big contributor to warpage) and the pieces dry very evenly.
Hey Amy do you get any warping or ‘s’ cracks with this method? I was also told “don’t throw plates.....!” Most people told me nightmare stories about warping or bulging and cracking... thanks 🤗
Dry them SLOWLY, like 2 weeks
I have almost no problems with plates! this technique really helps, plus making sure there's no moisture left in them. :)
@@AmyPalatnick hey thank you so much for your reply. I’m much more confident throwing plates now and I’ve been using your firing method for 4 years!!
We call it the ‘Platenick’ method 🥰🥰😘😘🌟
wow, and the kiln can still heat evenly with the plates right against the wall? i'm new to having my own kiln...got a nice old one that needed rewiring. it won't turn on...so i'm still new at having a kiln! lol
I was wondering the same.
I was told never to let anything touch the kiln walls because it could potentially cause damage to the kiln.
But I was also told that you needed to have an escape hole for air or else the piece would break, and I've recently learned that's not *necessarily* true.
Yes, there is nothing wrong with touching the walls!
Potentially is key. Mothers also tell their children not to cross the road because they could potentially get hit by a car.
Amy, how many are you able to get in your glaze load, and do you use plate setters?
juli
Juli Long, i almost always fire plates with larger things like teapots and pitchers. i load big stuff on the top and bottom of the kiln, and plates in the middle. i can fit 3-4 plates (mixing dinner and salad plates) per shelf, and usually have 4-5 shelves stacked that way per load. so, 12-20 plates per load, no plate setters!! i have some silica on the shelves to help with easy sliding of the foot as it shrinks. oh, and i never use kiln wash!!!
:)
Amy Palatnick Wow, you are brave! To film all of these, and no kiln wash!
Do they ever stick to each other?
never! this is just a bisque, no glaze or anything, just clay.
Feeling like an extreme novice: what is kao wool?
BettyJ , kaowool is a blanket made of (i believe) spun kaolin. it is a high-temperature resistant material that is soft, kind of like fiberglass insulation. it can be fired in a kiln with no change to it. so if you have a delicate rim, you can put some kaowool under the rims and they will be supported by it. people use kaowool to plug up holes in kilns, to finish closing the doors of kilns…you can tear it, smoosh it…cool stuff!! worth having a little bit around. :)
I tried this with 40 plates and almost half of them cracked.
OMG. that sucks! had you ever tried it before? what kind of cracks? What kind of clay do you use? what do the rims look like?