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Lian Li O11 Dynamic Review - Der8auer Designs a Case
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- Lian Li worked with XOCer Der8auer to design a liquid cooling case, but we tested it for airflow anyway. The Lian Li O11 Air is coming out next.
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Our Lian Li O11 Dynamic review looks at airflow, thermals, noise levels, and build quality. We also compare the Lian Li O11 Dynamic vs. Thermaltake View 71, NZXT H700i, Cooler Master H500P, and more. The Lian Li O11 is one of the best PC cases we've worked with lately, and stands strong for gaming computers that are air-cooled or water-cooled. This Lian Li O11 Dynamic benchmark tests CPU + GPU temperatures and acoustics. Watch for more!
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Lian O11 Dynamic Review
03:09 - Build Section
08:05 - Testing Methodology for the O11 Dynamic
10:40 - CPU Torture Test
13:38 - GPU Torture Test
15:17 - 3DMark Firestrike Stress Test
15:32 - Blender Test
16:16 - Noise Testing and Noise-Normalized
17:00 - Conclusion
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Quick note: Case is still up for pre-order at $100, which is a great price. Find the Lian Li O11 on Newegg: goo.gl/AzQiBq
Patrick's thoughts & article here! www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3285-lian-li-o11-dynamic-review-benchmark-der8auer-case-design
You might also like our H500P Mesh review: th-cam.com/video/fpfkk4E7eCg/w-d-xo.html
thank god the pre order is up, ever since ces I fell in love with this case and I have been checking lian li's website consistantly and I am now just finding out about it being up for pre order. Thankfully I can still get it at 100, but honestly 130 is still such a steal for a case like this ESPECIALLY lian li
When you say "These Fans run really really fast!", how fast do you mean? because average fan speed for a lot of people is 1200 - 1500rps, I have fans that do 2000rps but I know I can get case fans that do 3000rps so again how fast is Really Really fast? lol
He states it in the vid. 1900RPM. Which is pretty high for average fans. Noctua Industrials run up to 3000RPM, but then again those are designed for that.
And since 40dBA was apparently the fans at 65%, that gives us an approx. RPM of 1250.
ah cool thanks I did wonder if I just missed him saying it and yeah it was the Noctua fan I was thinking of when I said 2000 and 3000.
TLDR, we need custom water cooling focused case reviewers.
I have one on pre-order and at $100, I really shouldn't be complaining... but here I am.
I got to say there's a lot impressive about this case but the negatives are pretty glaring for custom water cooling. First, the vertical radiator space limitations. th-cam.com/video/Zs51JtTxiY0/w-d-xo.html Being limited to a 125mm thick radiator for the rear chamber vertical mount is a serious drawback. This is likely caused by the front I/O ports and the mounting mount locations. TLDR, I would suggest you move the vertical rad mounting points at least 6mm toward the rear of the case and use a rail system for the mounting points.
There are many 360mm rads that are thicker than 125mm (Hardware Labs, EK PE, etc) and the ones that are thinner, often don't perform well comparatively. Given this, these rads must be put in the main chamber. The problem with that is that the ports at the top (ports at bottom isn't possible due to screw locations, another negative) would be very obstructed by any top mounted radiator. Fans would also have to be in the rear chamber, which is unfortunate given they are commonly an aesthetic component. While I don't have an issue modding this case, others will likely be less enthused. For me, personally, this was one of the most common and vocalized drawbacks on the PC-011 WGX and it's a bit disappointing to see it carry over to the Dynamic.
Then the lack of custom AIB GPU waterblock support, in the horizontal position, is also a negative. Many people own Strix, Aurous, MSI Gaming, EVGA FTW, etc GPUs with blocks. It looks like none of those cards/blocks will work in the horizontal position. Luckily, there is the vertical mounting options, but this has an extra cost and configuration considerations. Also, on that vertical mount, This was also a problem on the WGX, but that model did come with the riser. I hope it is possible to mount the bracket at the top PCIE slot so we can at least put fans in the bottom while the vertical bracket is installed?
Given that der8aurer consulted on the design of this case I'm a little surprised that it has these limitations.
Other (minor) pieces of feedback:
- 5.25 bay option in the upper rear HDD/PSU mounting area for Aquaero/5.25 reservoir bay would be great.
- 140mm ventilation on the bottom mounting bracket, like on the top. ATM the bottom fan/rad mounts only have vents up to the 120mm point. So 140mm fans/rads will not get as much airflow.
- Rad ports at the bottom orientation for the vertical radiator bracket. ATM only top ports are possible. Ports at the bottom is often a superior position because it allows that radiator to be drained more easily. This could be achieved easily by making the vertical rad mounts a top to bottom rail system vs fixed mounting points.
- Ability to swap front aluminum panels (silver panel on black case and black panel on white case)
After having watched hardwarecanucks' video about this case to get those positive vibes and sweet b-rolls, I immediately rushed here to get complete, detailed information with precise and valid data that stems from your rigorous methodolgy. Then I'll go back to Linus oilcooling a laptop inside a volcano or whatever
Perfect. What a world we live in lol.
this comment put me in a fit of laughter hahaha. quality
Good one man, good one.
omg, oilcooling a laptop inside a volcano loool
after getting into this hobby thats basically what the routine is when something new drops
If its designed by der bauer, dose it automatically delid your CPU and apply liquid metal when you close the side?
Ggchb Gig ghb if only Lian li were also based in Germany then yes - because German engineering
::)
German engineering is great until it forces you with mandatory upgrade after 2-5 years.
It is common myth nowdays as german products are mostly mediocre like everything else. In the past german engineering was before its time, now they are in the same basket as everyone else.
:D :D
Yup. Look at VW as a good example.
RoboDog well in terms of their cars (like vw) their very robust but my current one is a 07 plate so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ that's probs when they had their superior engineering -
Edit: it's not that German engineering has gone done - supposedly others have catches up a little that it's no longer keeps ahead, but German engineering is still the best to date.
Funny how ironic that a performance based case looks 10 times better than some other "looks" based cases with terrible airflow at the same price. Nice job Lian Li, will probably buy this
does the 011 have good airflow?
@@briabbruh6183 Yes
Because it got so popular, I thought this case was just designed to look flashy, but was surprised when the temperatures were actually really good.
@@dilbophagginz how should i position my fans if my cpu is liquid cooled?
@@davidkim7653the 3 fans on the side if u can, 2 below, aio on top and a exhaust in the back
First case review I've seen that made me instantly want one. No compromises.
The View37 is also one I would love, but I'm kind of done with acrylic... that stuff scratches if you look at it wrong.
I would have really loved to see an “all possible fans” configuration because you can argue that someone using the O11 dynamic for air cooling has that option.
I really do feel you should include “max # of fans” in your review as 5 intake and 4 exhaust would probably be amazing in this case even at a normalized 40dba
6Twisted have you tried any other config with 5 fans? Like 3 side intake and 1top 1 bottom (both out) at the very end of the case to get the air go
I love how thorough you are with air flow testing, saved me money from buying extra fans and gave me some assurance I am buying a great case. Cheers!
It is actually amazing what der8auer achieved here. He modified an existing Lian Li miditower case and it sells for 130$! With a watercooling capacity which is usually only available in Big Tower or Cube Case from Lian Li at prices 300$ upwards!
I really hope he gets to work on a number of other Lian Li products!
Nice timing on the ending.
@FinnKitten123 He’s talking about the power going out
@@TheAngryChickenTAC h
@@richardworcester8256 ?
were did all the reply’s go?
What a hardcore tech guy Steve is. "Electricity is down, use ALL the UPSes! Record untill nothing remains!" *Clips to black.. Faint backlight*
T.T7
6:40
GPU: "I have crippling depression"
Jay has a video on dealing with "gpu sag" lol
Gamers Nexus logic: "Budget is three fans that makes since"
ME: "9 SPOTS×9 FANS= MAX COOLING !!!"
late comment
but yea I've replaced the front panel with perforated one, and installed 12 fans in total (including 3 from AIO). the fans themselves cost more than the case itself.
10:19 that GPU sag uh hurts
saw it too at 2:20, hurts :(
Damian Rath if it wasn't Steve, I would think it was not installed in the right slot.
I checked my card as soon as I see this comment and fortunately mine's still straight....for now at least
@Damian Rath: My MSI R9 390 (which is actually in a similar-looking Lian-Li case) has more sag than this card (it's a thick, heavy card), though it's very close. It annoyed me at first but it's never had any harmful effect I've witnessed.
I've had worse. Eventually caused that pci-e slot to die.
How does one receive 9 fans and not even think to slap them all on. Just for a test and not included in the benchmark. In the name of science! 🤙
my thoughts exactly. That was a dropped ball.
Really wish they did this, I’m trying to see if it works in my case.
@@Clash-333 yup same here
@@HollowRick I did it, it works well.
@@Clash-333 what air movement configuration did you find works best?
I have a build with this case with hybrid air cooling for vid card and water cool for the processor. I have 9 fans. Sides as intake, bottom as intake and radiator top at an outtake. My system runs at around 45 C. The video card is a 2080 Super which is probably the biggest 2080 you can get. All things considered, it's a really nice case. I was upgrading (depends on your definition) from a Corsair Obsidian 900 D. I wanted small compact and still maintain the cool. I also moved to a Corsair Hyrdo X (with PETG tubing) which perfectly mounted toward the back over one of the 180 mm. I'm wanting to water-cool the card, however the space now becomes an issue for an additional pump. The 2080 is so massive, in order to watercool, I believe I might have to use a different vid card OR Side mount the card which might help with heat by removing the card away from the mobo. I'll figure this out.. Just need another paycheck to invest into. The case is greatly price, but you'll end up spending on the accessories to make it work better. I fell in love with the corsair iCUE system. I actually installed 2 commander pros. I'll post up link with pictures, but I really love this case. I also need to get a new power supply, I use an EVGA 1300 watt PS, which is also a space eater/heater. I'm going to remove the 2nd power chassis which is actually a duel hard drive bay. I'm having to order threaded EVGA specific cables. Due to limited space the threaded extensions eat up too much room.
Running
Asus: ASUS ROG Strix Z490-A Gaming Z490
Processor: Intel 10th Gen i9 10900K
MSI: RTX 3080 Gaming X Trio 10G
Mem: Corsair Vengeance 4 X 8 3600
I'm not running m.2 but using raid 0 x 2 samsung 1 tb (x2) *yes I know raid is pointless, I just didn't want to fiddle with 2 drives for software, I please on moving to m.2.
posting 100-105 FPS at 2K on COD MW/ 60-65 FPS on 4K at full graphics with ray tracing.
I haven't run a score bench yet, but will when I'm done with everything.
Current issues: The video card is designed to run hot and my pipes go right along top of it into the motherboard S.Bridge. That pipe is heating up because of the vid card. That's an oversight from my behalf. When I move the vid card parallel, that should alleviate that issue. I just lose functionality for my other slots. (goodbye remote power switch)
I'm also running magnetic 2500 180 mm corsair fans. I was hoping to get some quiet out of it, but when you run everything at full, the fans fully rev up and it at times can sound like an old fashion window AC.
A plus, It looks SHARP. I'm going with a mostly white build. I'm now an MSI fan, however the software to controls the lights is nice. The iCue tied in with lighting and the fans also make a nice effect. I run all the lights white.
There's my bragging session. Not sure what to do next when I'm done. I'm still on a list for the MSI 3080, but may change my mind and move to the ASUS based on stability reviews. Who knows.
PS: to add, the last thing I would like to due is run a transparent LCD on the Side window. Just gotta find one or invest and take a chance of taking an LCD monitor apart.
Love the timer on the charts, tells me if I need to hit that pause.
Hm, extremely interested in the Air once it releases. I really like the glass box design, but if the air allows better cooling I might be more inclined for that one.
Also, massive kudos to Lian Li and der8auer. Finally a case where mounting your GPU vertically makes BOTH it *and* the CPU run cooler. So now your case isn't only running cooler, it also looks cooler.
I absolutely think 9 fans should have been tested. 3 bottom, 3 top, 3 ft side. I spoke to all my coworkers, they all agreed this should have been the test situation. Still would enjoy seeing
Do you know if it's a good way to handle it? I did 9 fans (3 for radiator exhaust on top with watercooled CPU, 3 intake bottom, and 3 exhaust on side just because when the fans I'm using are flipped over they look really dumb)
This is actually one of the few case reviews on GN i feel satisfied with, and it is all due to the fan experimentation here.
What i often feel is missing is a test of what a typical fan setup for a case is so i can get a more realistic impression of what it would be like.
I do get why they usually only use the included fans, cause they wanna test what you actually get for your money, but on higher end cases with fewer fans included, i feel this kinda does not represent the case properly, cause nobody building a gaming rig with a i7 and 1080 would ever just have 1 fan in a normal tower, so i would also like to see the "what you would normally install" scenario as well.
I swear these cases looks more and more like 3D printer enclosures. xD
finally an alternative case design, well done Lian Li & der8auer. IMHO if you buy regular fans (like Artic ones) with 50-60$ you can fully populate the case and have very good temps also 3 120mm fan blowing straight into the GPU section is heaven. even for a multi-GPU on air
Would you do another review with full 9 fan configuration? I'm just quite curious at what sort of configurations would work well as I am getting this case but not going to be doing any liquid cooling for a while
Dam r u me, I'm asking the same question and trying to find an answer
@@ferreiraaustin i saw another review with 6 fan setup. No one wants to deck it out with 9. But to be fair most people would probably go for liquid cooling
i know this is two years late LOL but i do 3 intake bottom, side and 3 exhaust on top and my temps are crispy low
@@milkyykittyy I just got this case from cyberpower I hope they install everything correctly. I also bought a 360mm radiator and then then extra fans. What u think would be best to install those?
I run 3 bottom intake, a 360 aio intake on the side, and three exhaust out the top. Works fuckin mint with a 5900x and 3080. Hope it helps.
The size of the case may be related to the costs of shipping. Nice that you could use 2 PSU's! I do like how the tempered glass is attached to the case. Probably the best way yet, that I've seen. And the price is great. Of course, just like any build, you have to spend some time with the case to make it work for your needs/wants. Great review as always GN. Steve, hair looks great as usual too! Keep up the pro work you guys!
Leaves desk at work to use restroom while the thermal testing numbers are being explained. Comes back to desk and Steve is still at it several minutes later. The volume of information you guys provide is intense. Thank you.
i get why you test the cases the way you do, but for a product like this, populating even a couple more fan slots wouldve been really useful information for prospective buyers like me, who cant tell if this case is the right one or not because youre not even using the case to its capabilities.
Personally I'd like to see how this case does with 9 fans. I would think side and bottom intake and top exhaust would yield positive pressure and above average thermals.
I'm thinking of a purchase and utlising this configuration with a vertical gpu mount.. seems the most logical and coolest!
hardware canucks did that video LOL
@@MrrrrMime Don't think you can bottom intake with a vertical mount
Is that fan set-up possible for air cooling? im not into water cooling and i like this case
@@Mistilteinn. Think top 3 fans would be a bit redundant, if you were using an air cooler set to exhaust towards the back/IO shield - side & bottom intake plus the cpu fan would be enough to push hot air out through the back and top.
Awesome vid, thanks for the dedication to providing your viewers info, working off a ups just to get the vid happening!
Went with this for my first ever build. Absolutely amazing.
Also your video recommendations were great.
The Air Version must be amazing. Probably the best case of 2018.
yea i bought the rl06 recently and i might regret it
Bill Nanos Its to good to regret it
the air cooled version will probably be modified for bigger coolers,since this is for watercooling mostly there is no reason to be so thicc
Sadly it looks like we have still 155mm clearance, according to Lian Li said to me on FB. WHICH SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I loved the case but when I saw that the air cooled one has the CPU clearance 155mm I got angry.
I really wish Steve would have made a bigger deal of the vertical gpu performance. Second best CPU temps and BEST GPU temps is simply incredible. This is the first case I've seen that would make me want to do a vertical mount, genius design.
Does it have any dust filters? I don't recall him mentioning (may have missed it)
Kyle P 4 total dust filters. 1 on bottom, 1 on top, 2 on side. (1 for side intake, 1 for the psu)
So I did buy it and find out that it doesn't come with the vertical GPU mount and that it is a $50 USD extra. Not even sold here in Canada. This was the whole fucking reason I bought the damn thing.
Kyle P Thanks buddy, i just realised this too! The gpu mount is almost half as much as the whole case.. but crazy.
Kyle P i want this case so bad, wish it was a bit shorter (with the potential of taking it overseas once my assignment is done)
Side note... if you don't want to buy the Lian Li vertical mount, Cooler Master's vertical mount fits perfectly and is cheaper.
I bought this case a few months ago I'm alrdy stocking up on parts I'm so pumped to have this thing
John Moon What kind of cooling are you using and what’s your build list 👀
If you already have a lets say 500W PSU it might be cheaper to bzy a second one, so for some it might be a useful feature if you need more.
what case fans were you using?
Steve mentioned at the beginning of the video Lian Li sent 9 fans. Three 120 mm are used. Are these non-rgb? Video is 2 years old. Out of stock.
I need that case in my life. Corsair's x460 is too small for two radiators, while this thing can house 3 360s and looks amazing. Either this one when it comes out or Define R6
Barteg Why would you need 3x 360mm rads? Do you pull 750+, watts regularly?
Mark Pearce one word
Vega
nuf said.
Not sure you'll be able to pull off a 360 at the bottom. This case has the motherboard mounts pushed all the way to down (to have clearance above) so I'm not sure you can fit a rad+fans there. Been looking for a case for a new WC loop and this one is looking good! :o
For noise reasons
Would love to see a re-do on this with an AIO/watercooler. Don't know if you have a lot of comparison data, but might be interesting to see it compared with a couple of other watercooling-focused cases. I just feel like testing this with an air cooler is really missing the point of the case (not that you can't air cool it, but it's just not what it was designed for).
I've had a couple Lian Li over the years and it's great to see them entering the mid-range market.
I got this case in 2019 and I still love it. It has been a great investment for me.
Should I buy one right now?
Well done der8auer!
@der8auer Would have been great if you would have done a similiar test on your channel.
Gut gemacht Roman, schade das du das nicht auch einen Ausführlicheren Test auf deinen Kanal gemacht hast, wäre schön gewesen.
He has integrity. No point in reviewing your own product.
I would have found it more usefal than what he has done...^^
I love that we got the sound of the motorized lazy susan, out of box noise level?
Legendary timing at the end Steve, great work!
After a long wait..I finally have this case coming in Thursday. Super pumped!
This thing is literally always sold out lol whenever I check it out it seems to be hella popular
I don't need this to replace my boxy corsair case right?
Guys?
*sees pre-order pricing on Newegg, decides to order anyway*
SilkMonkey you do!
If it's a 460x or 570x nah. If not then yes, maybe...probably.
Another awesome review! So cool to see a product come through the lab that you can really get enthusiastic about. Keep up the great work! Thanks!!!
Awesome case! Excellent review as always, I'm glad to see something come through that wasn't a bad airflow or poorly implemented tempered glass setup.
I wish there was a test of three side intake, 3 bottom intake, 3 top out and see what the thermals were like with that
Yeah, I'm kind of disappointed there was no test with top exhaust.
kibecru ?
Sorry I somehow thought I was on another channel!
@kibecru welcome back
yeah the assumption that people will only use 3 fans is crazy ... you can pick up fans so cheap that it is entirely unrealistic and made the thermal testing pointless
Already preorderd :)
Me too, can't wait, and yes, as long as watercooled psu's are really hard to find, ill make use of those 2 psu mounts. Would be pointless to try to make the entire system dead silent only to have a psu fan spin up to 40+dba under load
Hey Steve, I understand and have loved why you do the realistic / average approach to what you'd do with a product, in this case the reasoning for the 3 fan limit choice... However, this case makes me think you should consider (if worth the extra time) doing a second approach as a "What would Steve do", eg; What would you do if you were buying this case for a build.
I think this because the $130 pricetag makes it a good choice on a budget / for the average builder, but I am actually going to buy this and I will have one radiator for CPU AIO, but I will still fill the remaining fan slots (at least 6). Even though the case is cheap, there's so much you could do with it, and it's cheap because it's barebones. Just a thought man!
I really like the fact that you are very different from most reviewers out there. Flashy things is not what some people are after. I prefer function over form and knowledge which is what you're good at providing. Keep well.
Hi, Thank you for your review. i have already purchased this case after watching your video. This is really an awesome case but i have one question hope you can help me to find out. Is there anyway to change the color of the Power LED? thanks :)
05:45 "No guys I promise, people really want this" xD
Have to thank you guys for doing this review (yeah I know its been almost a year ago) but I'm loving this case and the look it gives my new build.
I like those progress bars to show how long is left to read the specs and test results. I wish everybody would include that kind of thing in their videos.
EPIC ENDING!
Gamers Nexus, could you find something for the viewers ? The clearance for CPU cooler of the Dynamic version is
Have you arrived to any conclusion? Can't find anybody who actually made the measures!
@@SalemaPsy I went with the MSI Frozr L (with two push/pull fans) and a sheet of paper will just fit between the cooler and the glass side panel. I don't know how you could go any taller without it touching the glass. The Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B (154.5 mm) and the Scythe FUMA Rev.B (149 mm) would probably be good options as well but I had trouble finding them for purchase. The black Noctuas are coming out in Q2 2019 and so they might have something then that looks good and fits. So far, we have no complaints about the Frozr L with two fans. It is very quiet and cooling is excellent on an i7-8700k, although I haven't overclocked yet. At stock I'm in the 20's at idel and 50's under heavy load. I currently have 3 front Noctua Chromax NF-F12 120mm front intake and 1 bottom intake. I plan to fill it up with fans once the new chromax are out in a few months, but right now I'd say that may only be for aesthetic reasons. With that current config the case is near silent at idle and just above silent at full load including an RTX 2060 3-fan Strix.
So, finally a 130$ case i'd buy without feeling bad about the price. Looks xtremely good, looks like it's really well designed (love the way they designed the glass retention), and it has solid air cooling performance even tho it was designed for liquid cooling.
And as a plus it looks like mounting the GPU vertically is even better for overall thermals?
I might have finally found a case to replace my old (and ugly) carbide. Tho it might be a bit too wide for my desk.
Built my PC with this in Feb 2020. Very happy. But I have an answer as to why you might want space for two power supplies.
You bought a power supply (550w) that was perfect for your 2070 super / 3700x build - but in a year or two you’re thinking about upgrading to a Zen3 and a sweaty 3080ti or 6900xt and you might need a little more juice to power the machine.
Instead of buying a brand new 850w power supply to replace your underpowered unit, you could buy a 500w supply just for the GPU and save yourself some cash.
That gpu sag......
its an old worn out old girl
It's a high end aftermarket 1080, hardly old and worn out ...
Llewln GPU sag is more based on a worn out pcie slot, wich this could easily be, based on the amount of testing they did with it.
Whats a GPU sag?
@@quilliamattari2772 The card is hanging
Curious. If it is designed for liquid cooling why was no liquid cooling testing performed? Or does GN never do that type of testing? Just air regardless of the case design target? Can you refer to a YT channel that did liquid testing?If I am out of touch I apologize.
there's a reviewer who uploaded a review with a pretty beautiful frosted hardline build out there, really gorgeous build.
GGF event , one of the best custom loop channels
I love my 570x but this case is one hell of a contender for my next PC. Right on Lian Li! Doing good.
Recently did a build in the xl version..... Super easy case to work in and looks fantastic. Also with a 360 rad, bottom to top airflow, and a 3080 fe gpu cooler design, it barely has to run the fans at all and everything stays nice and safe on the temps. Absolutely fantastic design
Gonna reconfigure my standard O11 build soon since after watching this video I realised I installed the side fans on the wrong side lmfao
Question, if I use an AIO for the CPU and 2 fans bottom and top would that allow optimal air flow?
Amazing 😍😍😍
Can't believe you didn't test this things with all 9 fans installed. If I were to buy this case I'd definitely put 9 fans in it. With or without water cooling.
according to der8auer the case can fit an E-ATX Motherboard, thats also the reason, why the side intake area is further back. Like this it`s easier to route the cables with E-ATX MB`s
$130 is a bit steep for a case without fans, but it does look really nice.
I do wish more companies made fan-less case variants. Corsair for instance makes probably the best RGB fans on the market but then only makes cases with fans pre-installed. It would be logical to offer a no fan variant so you could appeal to people who either already have nice fans they want to re-use or so you can push your own line of fans and undercut the competition on case price in the market segment of custom cooling customers.
I have no reason to buy this but I want it so bad. Maybe when I get a decent rig I'll get it, my system wouldn't do the case justice atm.
just get it, cases last forever and it is on a 24% discount :P
Aaaaand it's unavailable in the UK so nevermind haha!
The review look good here as well. I’m really liking the case for my new build. Thanks. I like the back exhausted fan look so look forward to seeing this case in more test.
I know this is late but...you can mount 3 140mm fans on the top of the case (I used Corsair ML140 RGB fans) if you mount them so that the middle fan has all 4 screws, and then the two outer fans have two screws each in the inner holes. The fans and case are sturdy enough that they are still straight and not sagging after more than a year of running.
Hi there mate, mine came with a square piece of rubber with a sticky side. Any idea what that is for?
Maybe it can prevent any rgb controllers from vibrating from the fan, maybe for the psu shroud to stop the psu from vibrating too or maybe for the feet
Zoidburg did you forget to pay the power bill again?!
I was looking for a case with that kind of looking, like a aquarium plus a large amount of space for fans. I will buy this one. The large one case of Lian not worth it, too big. The one thing u missed was using an AIO 360mm to the side as exhaust and the others arranged as intake. That will do pretty well I think
I really want the dual psu support! It is a very rare option, that i can 100% use to mount my ATX PSU sized servo drive`s motherboard and it`s power supply will also fit nice, and i can mount the whole thing with 4 simple screws :) Most other case will not fit, or i have to mod the them beyond my skills :)
I am sorry bro, I don't understand this testing with 3 fans. I would like to know max settings of what is capable. That's like reviewing Ferrari and only driving 80 MPH because most of the drivers will do only this speed on daily basis.
oh gawd the gpu sag
Very tempted by this case. Impressive showing for the watercooling focused version and I bet the Air version really does well on the charts.
I can't wait to finally get my hands on this beauty 😍 it's coming tomorrow. I'd love if you guys could review the RX 5700xt thicc2 as soon as it comes out
I have this case.. Just did a I7-8700K build in it.
If you buy one of these cases, remove the protective film on the glass panels and look it over carefully BEFORE building your system.
After putting everything in the case, I removed the film and found a nasty scuff mark in the side panel near the front on the edge.
I'm not returning it over the cosmetic issue. I sent an email to LIAN-LI asking about buying a replacement panel and they have not responded.
Other than the scuff, I love the looks! i.imgur.com/Z6FxYE3.jpg
Same happened with me.. except it was the front panel that had the nasty scratches.. i contacted the store i bought it from and got a 20$ gift card xD more fans i guess
thinking about this case with 3900X but will have 9 fans in it :-) and that is the idea behind this case..why buy it and only have 3 fans ...blah
What kind of fans are you getting? I'm thinking of noctuas with phanteks RGB brackets. I just bought this case but haven't bought rest of the parts yet. 3 side intakes, 3 bottom exhaust sound good? I'm a n00b to fans
@@KillaCyst actually going Noctua myself, well they always say they are one of the best so am getting 6 Noctua 120mm NF-S12A PWM chromax.black.swap 1200RPM Fan with
Noctua NA-SYC1 chromax.red 11cm 4Pin PWM Fan Splitter Cable (3 Pack)
its just the aio I have to decide on......360 or 280
@@willsutton54 you think CPU would be cool enough with stock wraith prism?
@@KillaCyst nah, I think Steve and others have already said its not good for the 3900X......anyway recieved this case yesterday along with the Thermatake RGB Sync 360aio whch I hate due to length of the cables on the fans so am selling that for a non RGB aio...just have to figure out how to remove the drive cage ( or 2nd cpu holder ) ....it blocks acess to the baqckside of your motherboard so have to make sure to put the right brackets on first
Sorry to hear about the power outage guys. Really thorough testing and we all know why :-), and frankly it deserves it. Nice box for his first time out of the gate. Would love to see Debauer jump in to the realm of Singularity some day! Great job again........................... AJ
I put a 92mm fan at the back for exhaust, helps a bit, better than nothing. 2 screws are enough to hold it in the vent slots do not drilling.
Looks like a fish tank.
A display case.
edit: which is to say that this is not a bad thing.
This is the first time I like "tempered glass everywhere". That's a big compliment. Moving the PSU to the back which removes PSU shroud, that I never liked and the non-tinted glass which usually makes the case reveal too much actually makes the case look really good. It's a really nice implementation of TG that, yes makes it look like a fish tank, but a really beautiful one. Looks like a better fish tank than LTT's mineral oil PC lol
So you can fill it with 3M Novec :P
Indra Ida Bagus The glass is tinted, slightly.
I meant not the dark tint that only LEDs and parts illuminated are visible.
4:54 Latex gloves.
Frog Cartoons Are Racist Nazis they were actually cloth, anti-static gloves
I just got a awesome pc with this case I love it. I do have a closed loop water cooling but has the nzxt kraken z73 with lcd screen and that big lcd screen on it with all the glass on the case looks awesome and adding a tone of nzxt rgb just ties it all together. This case is definitely a case to show off everything you want to see in a pc and hides the stuff you don’t want to see like power supply’s and cords and a hard drive but can still show off ssd on the bottom cage where the fan can go too .
Seriously CANNOT wait for the air version to come for review. I'm on a hair trigger to buy that sucker soon as it receives your blessings.
All hail tech Jesus Steve !!!
Praise be...
That timing with the battery backup was perfect.
Best ending to a case review ever!
Good review as always but I find it incredibly annoying that despite getting 9 fans you didn't even try to put them all to use. I realize that for some reason you assumed that most people will only use 3 fans (although personally I feel like most people will eventualy try to buy additional fans, I mean - they don't have to be the most expensive Corsair fans if that is what you are worried about).
Anyway, a temp. number for all 3 intake from the bottom and from the side + exhaust fans on the top would be nice. You wouldn't even have to put it on your official case review chart if you don't feel like it, but using it all would be just as informative as selective 3 fans and definitely more satisfying.
I have the XL and the one issue I have is that the hot swap bays are totally enclosed which makes the drives... hot. I had to strap a fan to the back of my case with velcro to drop temps from 53c to 41c. They should at least cut one side of the bay off for ventilation and maybe let you mount a fan there.
I have had silverstone case and other brands and Lian Li is a whole other level. Well worth the money.
Just got this case and I really like it but i noticed some drawbacks.
1. If fans installed at the bottom there is barely enough room to use bottom pins on the mobo
2. I wish it had more USBs on the front.
3. Quality of metal threads could be a little better
Just ordered this case with the 3 pack Corsair LL-120mm RGB fans and included controller. Pumped.
Would have loved to see a config with the CPU fan turned 180°, 1 intake top and bottom each, and 1 exhaust on the side...
9 fans. Three intake at the top, Three exhaust out of the bottom and rear. works wonderfully.
Reviews case meant for watercooling. Air cool it. Makes sense. Useless data, they have an air version coming out.
I wonder if anybody tought to use this case as desktop case, i mean putting the case vertically on the table and checked temp of GPU? Just mount feet on the side pannell and use it as desktop case. I guess you would get better temp on the GPU. And you might mount 2x80mm fans on the back for extra exhoust. I don't know how it will work, but worth to try.
der8auer is behind this design. I trust this man.he knows what he is doing
$130 on Newegg actually sounds reasonable compared to what I've seen out there.
I wish they had found a way to add more USB slot plates elsewhere on the back so those who want tons of USB ports without using a USB hub.
I know it wouldn't have been as neat with cabling, but I bet they could have sold USB header cables that were extra long.
Really excited to see the Air review when it's released.
Would love to see a review on the O11 mini