From Lian Li's site PCI-E to glass for PC-O11 XL is 172mm (non-xl: 150mm) PCI-E to metal is 169mm Tallest CPU cooler I can find 169mm (According to manufacturer site, some retailers will add 5 more mm) Arctic 34 CO: 157mm. Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4: 163mm. Cooler Master AIR MA610P: 167mm. Cryorig r1-ultimate: 169mm. DEEPCOOL GAMMAXX S40: 143mm. Noctua NH-D15: 160mm. Silver Stone HE02: 160mm. Thermaltake Frio Extreme: 160mm. Zalman CNPS9900 MAX: 152mm Widest video card I can find so far is 168mm (With Water Block) while most air cooled video cards are between 120mm-155mm.
I bought my 011 because of your review. It replaced my Air 540. I am very happy with it for my gaming pc. I will look for this on sale on Newegg and get this one too. I can store it and buy my water cooling parts over time. It would make a great X570 build. Steve you do some of the best case reviews, thank you very much for all your hard work.
Wish I would have waited a few months. While I'm mostly pleased with my O11 Dynamic, it has one unforgivable flaw, which this version addresses. There isn't enough of a gap between the floor of the case and the bottom edge of the mother board. I'm not able to mount a center bottom fan because of interference with the front panel USB 3.0 header plug.
I would appreciate a test showing the performance under the best possible configuration you could develop, that might help seeing as maximizing performance in cooling is something a lot of people will want to do
I was looking forward to this review, The main thing I wanted to know and still want to know is CPU tower clearance. UPDATE: Found in another review 167mm clearance so large air coolers will now fit.
Nice! I really wanted to buy an 011 dynamic, but my Noctua DH15 wouldn't fit, 5mm too tall! Glad I decided not to buy anything else instead and just waited. Looks like the 011XL is gonna be perfect!
Tip for the bottom fan tray, if you run door sealing strip on the inside edge of the bottom of the tray, you get MUCH better airflow as the fans can no longer drag air through the holes in the sides of the tray which just recycles internal air. Not as much of an issue if you have a radiator on the bottom because the radiator covers most of the holes, though it still helps.
I just got my Dynamic XL in the mail from Newegg the other day, I can confirm that they removed the laser engraved ROG logo in the bottom corner and replaced it with a sticker. It's very hard to get off but its possible
@@VelvetMagician been building my own pc's for 25 years and the ol 11 dynamic xl will probably be my next build case big open front and concealed roomy rear chamber are essential - easier to work in and space to hide the cables. use pcpartpicker.com to check component compatibility and check out bitwit kyles recent video on choosing parts, he suggests different builds from $600 up to $2000
Ive reached a point where I like every gamers nexus video before I watch it. You guys have gained my trust especially with your case reviews. I was thinking about getting the XL but now I know that the O11 Dynamic still fulfills my needs
4 years later and this case is still one of the most functional cases on the market, I kept it like I kept my Silverstone RV01. As I was building in it again today I realized how excellent the drive bays are, Lian Li should really get into NAS/Server cases because I would absolutely love a larger 011 XL with 6x 3.5" bays to build my NAS into. Only needing one Sata power for two drives and having the Sata cables attached to the drive bays is just excellent, only thing missing is the extra 2x drive bays which would finish my Raid 5 configuration. The Phanteks NV5 is a great case especially for being half the price of the 011 but the 3.5" drive door is absolutely terrible in comparison to the 011, I get most people buying these types of cases like the NV5 don't require mechanical drives but I do. Its so hard to find a case today that supports at least 4x 3.5" drives with 3x SSD's while supporting long GPU's and large tower coolers like the NHD15. I just wanted to show my appreciation for this amazing case.
You could've wasted 6 times more time on watching a match of the most popular RL sports game. Instead, you watched something technical with new information in it, that could one day prove useful. You're good.
I have the O11 non-XL and it’s really good. Seeing this makes me love the O11 series more. Only reason I didn’t get the XL was because the normal model would fit on my desk and the XL wouldn’t, but I’m not complaining, I’m happy with that I got right now.
If you buy the case, make sure you have 90 degree usb front headers because my normal front headers are literally impossible to use.The edge of my fan is about 1.5 cm away and flush with the top of the header. Maybe if you buy an ultra flexible header extender it might work. But get 90 degree headers.
As an owner of the non XL 011 Dynamic and a non loop water cooler, I went a different route which arguably some may say is overkill. I decided to go with a "positive pressure" (to reduce the amount of dust collecting inside the case) and use nine, yes nine 120mm fans (3 with an AIO). I use 3 on the vertical side side as intake, along with 3 intake at the bottom. I use 3 fans with a 360mm radiator for the AOI used to cool the CPU as an exhaust out the top. Note this is an relatively expensive build as all fans are RGB as is the CPU block cooling the i9 9900k, motherboard, and the 2080TI. Yes somewhat of a light show but then it is an "aquarium" type case. Now I can't compare my results to yours as far as temperatures, but let's just say, even in the summer without my AC running, I have NEVER hit 80 C yet (believe 77 may have been the highest) on either the CPU or the GPU. I'm usually in the lower 70s. Thanks Steve for a great channel and keep up you great work, says this old guy 65+ and still gaming.
What fans did you use? I just used the original dynamic in a custom Cyberpower build, and got 3 phanteks bottom intake and the Kracken x62 exhaust on the top. Keeps it fairly cool (upper 60s/mid 70s) on my 9700k/1660ti, but was thinking about upgrading the 3 "stock" fans and adding 3 fans - all RGB. Was having trouble finding RGB intake for the side/bottom.
@@jdowls9538 I used 3 sets of 3 Thermaltake Pure Plus 12 RGB TT Premium... 56.45 CFM... at the time I bought them they were are $58 for a 3 pack .... just checked on Amazon and they are $44.99 atm
@@lel3019 according to one company/group, thats cool and all, but i dont need their certification plastered on the side, me and anybody who sees it knows its a quality case.
Great design, I really like, especially the clear bottom intake path to GPU. Glad to see no included fans. They're usually a waste IMO, people buy specific for their overall build and/or carry over from old rig when buying premium cases. E2A: It's been nice to see good Lian Li cases. They've always had great aesthetics, but terrible cable management and/or airflow.
So, the Walmart PC brought me to GN. Then a sub happened. Then I found your 011 Dynamic testing vid. Then I built my first modern PC in one after not bothering to do one for more than a decade. I am glad they made a new XL version. Settling in for some good content.
I have the O11 dynamic, and I see this case solved several issues that Steve didn’t mention for some reason. First, the O11 dynamic has *nowhere* to put a fan hub. The hard drive cages are nit made of solid material so you cannot magnet stick to them. There are no other choices. You have to just shove the fan hub in the case and hope you dint need to swap anything later on. This case solves this by making the back of the hard drive cages solid metal, so magnets can stick. Presumably. I havent tried it. The middle bar also appears to be large enough to stick to, whereas in the original it is too small and full of holes so the fanhub falls off. When I use the o11 I wondered why there isnt a top latch, the screws are totally unnecessary. It is nice to see them add that. My biggest problem with the o11 is the space between bottom fans and the motherboard. I cannot physically plug in the usb3 front headers because there is no space, and powerful people in the industry *cough, steve* are not pressuring companies to make front side 90 degree usb 3 connectors standard. I do not know if this case solved this issue, because Steve didn’t cover it.
1. We don't use fan hubs and don't really like them, so not something we think about. 2. We don't stick magnets to our hard drive cages...? Never heard of that as a use case. Also, for aluminum parts, you should probably know aluminum isn't magnetic. Super weird comment for you to make, especially since you then say "I dunno, I haven't tried it." 3. We explicitly mentioned the space between the bottom, dude. Like two times. 4. It's not our responsibility to push for changes you want. We don't really care about IO angle. You need to realize that we focus on one thing most, and that's performance. We almost never talk about IO. And if you're talking internal, that's something to demand of motherboard makers, not case makers. You are placing unfair expectations on us, especially since some of your demands are not universal truths but just preferences or very small tweaks. Also, this video is already 25 minutes long. A few of your things we actually did mention. Really bizarre comment, especially the magnet thing.
I have a 360x45mm radiator and ML-120 fans on the bottom of my o11 Dynamic and I pretty much need to remove the radiator if I need to do anything with the bottom few inches of my motherboard. With my old motherboard that had USB3.0 headers on the bottom of the motherboard, I had to buy a low profile extension cable to use the headers. As for fan controllers, I have a Corsair Commander Pro attached to my cable bar thing near the top, it sits there fine but does require me to put the bar in at the bottom, attach all the cables then screw it in. There is also a small issue of not having enough space for all the cabling in that area so I currently have the side panel off to prevent the cables rubbing up against the side mounted fans. I am seriously considering upgrading to the XL simply for the extra space that it has in it. I have heard that there is a included vertical mount for the GPU but Steve didn't mention anything about it so I am wondering if it is still included or not. :\ Oh, another difference (if it is still there) is that the panels are made from aluminium in the XL while the original has steel panels which is one of the reasons for the extra cost.
My 011 build weighs 56 pounds. I absolutely prefer the positive lock in with the top panel screws and slider tabs. Without either of those lifting the case would just make the side panels slide up and break plastic quick releases. And then all my spaghetti would be spilled.
Gamers Nexus Oh okay, so common use cases that 95% of people care about and look for in a review are somehow irrelevant in your mind? You have 9+ fans in the case, and having a fan hub to control them is ‘bizarre’? You make entire videos about whether a gpu performs better with a washer, but refuse to acknowledge that motherboard makers are building products where large numbers of features are physically impossible to use in many common use cases? That doesn’t make sense. The fan hubs can stick to the components in the case, but the case has too many holes for various reasons. Screw holes, gaps for cables, places for tie downs. There is nowhere to put the hub in the original o11 unless you have a significantly below average sized hub. Normal hubs just dint have space, and in a case with NINE FANS that is a legitimate concern. One that I wish reviewers had mentioned, and if I were on the market today I would expect reviewers to tell me about. Because it changes the way I view the case.
I bought the Air version a while ago. It was about 140 euros, and it came with 2 fans. It's ah "well, thanks, but should I really thank you?" kind of thing. Since I wanted to overkill on the air flow department, I populated every spot that was available. And that's 2x80mm and 9x120mm (and the CPU AIO WC radiator takes the last spot for more 2x120mm). Excluding that last bit, the case with the fans was about the price of this case ("had" to buy 7x120mm). However, who buys this case has an open loop WC solution in mind. So, having fans included would just be something that they wouldnt use. I used the two included fans, but had to "hide" them, so they wouldnt mess with the case overall aesthetics. Because that's another thing people that buy these cases care about. It's not only about the performance, it's how it looks. Having two miss matched fans staring down on you is just... an eye sore.
@@cydonia9342 I actually like so of the ROG stuff but putting the branding on a case like this was just stupid to me. even the Asus Tuf stuff has a design other than just that little badge
You guys really need to add a watercooled test setup, AND start testing cases with their MAXIMUM fan capacity in addition to the standard test! It seems such an obvious oversight. What makes a great case isn't just how well it performs with X number of fans. It's also *how many fans* it can hold. That's how we improve cases in leaps and bounds - more fans, more unobstructed airflow. Both tests are important, so please do both!
The problem with this suggestion is that watercooling is still a bit prohibitively expensive in comparison to air cooling. Even most garbage systems from OEM's & SI's are going to come with a few fans included in the build, so it's easier to test for cooling scenarios 99% of consumers will experience. The only difference, of course, is the kind of fans GN uses. Not only is watercooling not really a standardized, affordable method of cooling compared to fans... but also, where do you even start? You have AIO's, the most affordable of which are the 120mm variants that are basically useless with high-end parts. And the prices only increase as you go up in radiator size & subsequent fan increase. And if you go full-on liquid reservoir cooling with custom waterblocks & pumps, the prices jump up even more. The vast majority of consumers will never utilize liquid cooling, so it doesn't make much sense to test it as a standardized cooling configuration. GN's current method is the best: test the AIO's they are interested in as their own separate pieces, and leaving custom loops out of the picture entirely.
@@randomsomeguy156 Betternet sucks compared to a service like NordVPN. No killswitch, and it's free.....so when it comes down to keeping the lights on or not....they WILL sell your data to survive. And it's slow slow slow.
@@randomsomeguy156 I mean, I wouldn't say NordVPN is much better considering that they didn't bother to disclose a data breach they had full knowledge of until someone did it for them. 🥴
@@PixelWolv I have a xigmatec elysium. It's a lot bigger than the lianli lol Iv started the build. Got 2 60mm 360mm rads with a 300mm res I've managed to get 13 120mm fans in there. Haven't sorted any cables out yet though but the mobo is in. Waiting on the new ryzen and navi to come out
Highly recommend this case. Had it for a year with Corsair water cooling. Almost silent with 2 360mm radiators and temps around 35 to 45 C under load (2080 Super).
David JLN Hopefully it’s running cooler than just 1 360 rad. Haven’t tested this yet. Might get 3080 and that will more than likely run hotter as well.
Best pc case I ever owned performance/looks wise... I have a deepcool assassin III in it and I got a non modular psu, cable management was a breeze I can leave all fans on 40-50% on summer even while gaming (3x 120mm sidem 2x140mm bottomm 1x120mm rear, 140mm exhaust top) putting on full only lowers the cpu temps by 1c and there's lot of noise... I almost get no dust inside the case at 40%, the filters plus how it's over an inch off the ground helps a lot. You can get so much intake in that even budget fans could do the job well at lower db so yeah it is great even for air cooling.
Moved my build to this case recently, it's amazing. Cooling is pretty nice and my components stay remarkably quiet. I have top exhaust Liquid Freezer II 360 on top, 3 intake on side, 3 intakes on bottom.
That's why I like to exhaust out the bottom, even though it's technically better for cooling to blow up towards the GPU. I like that the PSU sits sideways and takes in air from the side instead of from underneath the tower as well.
Your videos sold me on this case and gave me the information and confidence I needed to tackle building my first PC and my parts arrive next week! Here’s my build list: -Ryzen 9 3600 -ASUS ROG Crosshair viii HERO. -EVGA RTX 2070 Super -4 x G SKILL Trident Z Neo 3600 x 16 (64 total) -Deepcool Castle 360 ex -Samsung 970 evo PLUS 1T -Seagate BarraCuda 2T -EVGA Supernova 850 P2 Platinum -7 fans -3 side intake -3 bottom intake -1 back exhaust -(AIO with fans will be top mount exhaust) My main focus is on photoshop/3D rendering and finally gaming. What do you think?!
Abandon that standard method, just fullfill it with fans, try show the best the cases can do. That's why im here and i think many others too. This standard method is like review a 2080 ti w/ OC with a blower cooler, what's the point on limit its performance. Sorry for any bad english, no time to review it now.
Caio César Martinelli 100% agree. If it comes with stock fans you can show the result, but show me the case filled with Noctua’s in the best lay out and tell me which is actually best. This series is for enthusiasts, so show what an enthusiast would do.
I love than a channel with the word "Gamer" in the name gives me such a scientific approach to a case review. This is making case shopping very easy for me..
I'll be okay with it since I plan on using ROG 2080's but yeah having extra logos is a negative thing really. I wonder if there will be a way in the future to remove it.
The_invaders I have the case and I don’t even notice that sh**. I use my PC as a workstation/gaming rig I could give two shi** about the logo the case runs cool
Nice to see Lian Li making affordable cases with there style and expertise . I have always wanted a Lian Li case . They are the only cases I have seen with tempered glass front and side panels that have ample air flow compared to most other cases of the type . Thanks for this review Steve ! 1up
To me this is a true customize case that you can build the way you want and use the fans you want is a plus, plus. In other builds I have change the fans and not use the stock fans. I truly believe people who do custom builds love a case like this ware nothing gets wasted, and you put what you want. True freedom
The cat likes it, so conclusion it must be good, Lianli was hard to get years ago, hope they improved their export now. Bauer would say ' Deutsche punktlichheit'
YESSS! I bought this based on your review of desktop cases. Thanks so much. Got the Lian Li pc-o11dw Case White! I am as excited about this as the 3080 I ordered!
5.25 drive bays are something that I will always want and love, cds and blu-ray at least for now aren't going anywhere and having the ability to own the media you love and rip it for personal enjoyment on the go is a must. However if I was building a server or a computer for a friend I would more then likely forgo the 5.25 drive bays because outside of my specific use case they are not needed.
The one thing that stands out and should be mentioned moore often regarding Lian Li's cases is this: Do not use the stock magnetic air filters. They're really restricting with airflow. The bottom airfilter which is a more traditional mesh style isn't so restricting and can be used but the sides and top magnetic filters are chocking the internal hardware. I removed the stock filters and kept my fans at their same settings and my temps dropped 12c. Lian Li.... You can do better. And yes, remove the one for the power supply as well... that thing needs good airflow too. If you're like me and clean the inside of your case often (every two weeks for me and I don't have a lot of dust where I live) then you needn't worry about dust buildup at all.
He did it for the standard version and it looked like the standard 3 fans on the side was the best. I think however that this case is built more towards watercooling builds.
@@ryanfitzgerald7647 i have the standard o11 dynamic with 9 bequiet 120mm fans in. gpu under load rarely exceeds 45-50 degrees and runs fairly quiet. i found the more fans you use in this case the less work each fan has to do the quieter it runs.
@@iainparkinson3238 I'm running the same case with 9 fans as well. I'd like to see apples to oranges comparisons on cases in general because absolutely no enthusiast would run a case with 3 fans if it could fit more. Would be a great addition to his reviews!
@@whiispyy The o11 dynamic is a wonderful case. No need to be worried about that. The XL just looks a little bit bigger, which is what I wanted before. I ended up moving my data files to a file server, so I don't have to worry about local storage with my main machine anymore.
thanks to you and your team, the amount of work and quality that goes in to your work shows. im grateful your in depth dives shows the niddy and griddy your diligence has helped me buy my case set it up and over clock thank you!
It's probably a sticker or if it's mechanically painted on that paint is very strong. Good news is hope depot has a huge amount of chemicals to play with And you can't really damage glass. So you can buy some cleaner. Let it soak and scrub it away
@@mitchelltyner5670 I got mine like a week ago and the logo is silk screened on the glass. That said, as visible as it is on case photos, when in use it's very low key. Pretty dark when lit from behind with any color lighting, even dim (but it pops out when blacking out those LEDs). And when the case is full of stuffs, your eyes are never drawn to that empty corner :) It's such a blast to build in that case, and with that level of cooling performance, i wouldn't pass on it just for a logo
Case superb for liquid cooling with all its capabillities, but... it's noisy, very noisy. I use vardars fans set to low rpm. I didn't notice significant deferences in components temps between 3x360 custom loop in it and my old 2x360 loop in Fractal's Meshify S2 which was quieter. Other thing - this case has no fan hub despite it has rgb controller ! Another drawback - you must remove top panel to open side glass panel ! Thing i love in it is way of mounting hard drives. Summarizing - for me this case is 3/5, i'm still looking for LC case of my dreams.
@@xVuuM3 Pencil ready? 😉 Arctic P12 12cm - 3 at the bottom blowing in, 3 on the side blowing in, 1 on the back blowing out, 1 on top blowing out, 1 Corsair H100i Platinum 240mm on top blowing out. XFX 5700, XFX Merc 310 7900XTX, Ryzen 5900. Stress test - Phoenix Miner running ETC, total 300-320W from 2 GPUs. CPU mining Raptoreum on 12cores, putting out 100W, 2 sticks of Gigabyte PCIe Gen 4 NVME 7000Mb/s both needing heatsink passive cooling on the mobo. After 8 hours of stress test, ambient temp is about 28-30C, inside temp around 46-50C. I can't remember the fan speeds, probably near the P12 max RPM. GPUs are 55-57C, CPU (4.4Ghz) about 70C. The Lian Li case is noticeably warm to touch! Noise level? Definitely noticeable! Gaming test, Radeon 5700 mining and 7900XTX playing Cyperpunk 2077, the fan also ramps up coz the 7900XTX is pulling 385W but the noise mostly comes from the fans on the Cosair H100i screaming at 2500rpm. Gaming workload ebbs and flows. Average heat output isn't that bad. Conclusion, I love this case! The only downside is the need to clean the mesh filters every 3 months. I only use these mesh filters on the intake vents, so bottom and side panels. There's no point to use mesh on the outlet vents on top since I run my rig 24/7. Hope that helps.
Much nicer than the Silverstone imo. Much cleaner glass edges and the attachment points are hidden whereas the Silverstone has screws exposed. Great vid and review! 👌🏻
From Lian Li's site PCI-E Slot to glass for PC-O11 XL is 172mm (non-xl: 150mm) and PCI-E to metal is 169mm. Tallest Noctua CPU cooler is NH-D15:160mm (according to Noctua) but newegg said it is 165mm. Tallest CPU cooler I found in 2019 is Cooler Master AIR MA610P with 167mm. Widest video card I can find so far is 168mm (Water Block) while most air cooled video cards are between 130mm-155mm.
Is this case still a viable option in late 2024? Especially concerning connectivity I suppose. This seems to have amazing noise performance, which I love, and doesn't look horribly tacky still.
Ooh yes it's still a viable choice in 2024. I've just upgraded from a smaller Thermaltake case to this Dynamic XL and it's amazing. The temps are lower, the cable management is brilliant and the "oreo" black and white build is really special. I highly recommend it.
It is finally going to be released after hearing about it in January. Can’t wait to buy it. This will be my 3rd Lian Li case. The first two were PC75 and A71F which served me well for over 15 years. Only thing disappointing is that it is not aluminum. Love this brand.
@@jamesonchen1258 you’re right. Meant to say not full aluminum. Interior parts are metal I think. That was from all the measly info I could find here and there the past months. At this point I just want to get my hands on one. Hopefully Amazon and Newegg will have it soon in September.
Great review. I bought one of these--saw the review after I built my system up/moved stuff over. Really happy with it--I am a gamer + use computer for work, so hard-drive bays are great. Love it.
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Dont tell me its Derbauers girly arms you edited in :)
Man, you don't know how his "girly" arms are helpful in terms of modding. They are like a goddamn robotic manipulators can go and do shit everywhere even in tight chassises. At the same time my sausage like fingers and gigantic arms that are better suited for blacksmithing require ENORMOUS computer case to make process of building a new rig slightly more comfortable. So i guess these arms are good for what he is doing.
Personally i am working with cars and etc. But if i will not be lazy i can end up with blacksmithing as a hobby to be honest. I just compared my fingers that way because they are not very flexible and thin. That's all.
I wish you'd included an air cooler standoff measurement. I'd think a big advantage this case has over the o11 Dynamic is the ability to use some of the taller tower coolers. The o11 Dynamic and air are both pretty much limited to short coolers like your test bench, CLCs or stock coolers.
Speaking as someone who has an 011 Dynamic and a ROG board with included wireless and a large wireless antenna - I would remove the upper plastic snap and use the remaining hole to route my wireless cables out to the ports on the back IO placing my antenna just inside my case, hidden. I do this now, but with the 011 Dynamic, I have to run this through the hard drive cage in the back and then back through to the front. I also realize that my wireless signal is not going to be as good with the antenna in the case, however, I usually am wired in on my desktop, and the signal is not so bad that it is un-useable.
Your build is very nice, I am planning a similar build and looked at all the parts you're using but ended up with a slightly different build. Case: O11D XL CPU: 5600X GPU: 3080 (But waiting for it to come in stock, using my old card until then) Mobo: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE (Still kind of undecided on this one, my second option would be the one you're using) Ram: Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO C18 AMD Ryzen 18-22-22-42 (Seen the RAM you were using but it was too expensive for me) Fans: Lian Li UNI FAN SL120 RGB PSU: Corsair RM750x 750W Gold What do you think about the motherboard so far? I heard a lot of people being angry with Gigabyte's RGB software so feeling kind of unsure about the motherboard
The only issue I've had with this case so far is that the hot swap bays are totally enclosed and the drives get really hot. Mine were 51c and 53c. I had to velcro a fan to the back of the case, which dropped temps by 12c. They should've at least cut out one side of the bays for ventilation. Would also be nice to mount a fan there. Weird design flaw considering how well-engineered the rest of the case is.
Oh thank god i thought I was just having an issue with my hard drive. I got a new WD Black 6tb and it hit 60C after an hour of transferring 1tb of data. It might not help that I have my side fans as exhaust either though. Do you have pics of how you mounted your fans to the hard drive enclosure?
I understand the testing methodology in terms of consistency and relative comparisons to other cases, but if you are using 3 fans in this case you are doing it wrong. I have 9x120mm in my standard 011 Dynamic along with a 360mm AIO, works like a charm, cool and quiet.
They released the PC-Q37 Mini-ITX a few years ago, which follows the same aesthetic. But like the original PC-011 (not the dynamic) it's super expensive! If they released a "dynamic" version of that, then I'd be all for it.
I brought a pc 011 razor best case I've ever owned. Thank you Steve as without decent reviews I would have brought the Cooler master h500. Keep up the good work.
even the manifactures website dosnt cover this well, this video only covers ariflow well, GGF Events did a way better review of the fetures of this case
Fan intakes at the bottom and fan exhausts at the top. Its a straight line for the cool air to go a brilliant design. Heat wants to rise anyway so makes a lot of sense.
if only that "rog certified" logo was a casebadge, placed next to the "der 8auer" badge. etching it into the windows is a bad move. it is the same as with back in the days, acrylic windows with holes in it. looks horrible.
I love Gamers Nexus’ methods of testing thermals and performance on pretty much every component they test. Thank you guys. Big fan. In this video, I found myself thinking that I would love if they added one more test category to the results of each case test suite: Best enthusiast configuration, or Maximum performance configuration. As an enthusiast I’m going to replace fans and try to maximize the cases performance. Stock configuration doesn’t apply to the way I build, though I see the value in testing that way for comparison purposes. I’d love to see that on case builds. Ps. I do realize that could potentially add a lot of time to testing, but a man can dream.
@@studog858585 Why the price has gone up in NA ? I remember at launch the NA pre order price was $120. And 130 afterwards. In Germany currently costs €125. The XL ''ROG'' will be over €200. I dont think the XL version costs them too much to produce to justify its price of $200. Its just the branding in the particular case. The realistic price should be $160 up to $180 at best.
@@kindis4282 this is what you get extra for 60 bucks Larger case Alu panels instead of steel RGB at the front 2 USB at the bottom edge 2 more extra 3.5" HDD bays All 4, 3.5" drive cages are hot swap Case feet are now alu Now support for a decent radiator solution at the bottom while having a vertical GPU. Now comes with 3 SSD plates that can go in the side rad spot or bottom rad spot.
@@studog858585 I just watched GGFs channel's videon on the case and thats pretty much what he said. Its not only upgrades though, the top has been downgraded in terms of radiator space compared to the basic version. Also I really hope they put out a normal non branded version even if the price is the same. Not that im gonna build in one of those but forced branding sucks.
I think its funny that hw talks about the engendering over aesthetics approach that was taken in designing the case but I honestly feel like its one of the cleanest looking cases out there. I do get the bit about a lot of the "glass and metal boxes" out there traditionally not preforming well and at least this one does. The only thing I find kind of bizarre is that the 011 dynamic doesn't support a back fan and I'm glad to see a spot for one on the 011 dynamic xl. Honestly overall I think there's a lot of cool ideas in the variations of this particular series of cases (011 mini / dynamic / dynamic xl) that I kind of whish would just get combined into one case. Like how is it that the o11 mini has back support for a fan but the 011 dynamic doesn't? Couldn't they have just made the case slightly wider? I mean I guess the reason why was to include support for larger form factor psu's, as the mini only allows for sfx psu's if I'm not mistaken. I think my issue is that these cases are so close to checking all the boxes but each version just has somethign about it that I feel annoys me. I love the idea of the mini but I don't want to buy a new sfx psu and possibly a new itx mobo instead of the atx I'm currently using. Using the atx cuts down on radiator support at the top and bottom of the case. On the other hand the xl is just well kind of large for my needs and even though it does come with some nice bells and whistles.... I cant help but feel like I'm over paying for space I don't really need, but at least it has support for a 120mm back fan... Maybe gamers nexus should just get together and go through all their case data and design the perfect metal and glass box. I'd buy it.
Find our original O11 Dynamic review here! th-cam.com/video/YmYcKg0x4bw/w-d-xo.html
Article linked in description.
9:13 Yes, germanness ist eine thing!
I'm here for the cat
From Lian Li's site
PCI-E to glass for PC-O11 XL is 172mm (non-xl: 150mm)
PCI-E to metal is 169mm
Tallest CPU cooler I can find 169mm (According to manufacturer site, some retailers will add 5 more mm)
Arctic 34 CO: 157mm. Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4: 163mm. Cooler Master AIR MA610P: 167mm. Cryorig r1-ultimate: 169mm. DEEPCOOL GAMMAXX S40: 143mm. Noctua NH-D15: 160mm. Silver Stone HE02: 160mm. Thermaltake Frio Extreme: 160mm. Zalman CNPS9900 MAX: 152mm
Widest video card I can find so far is 168mm (With Water Block) while most air cooled video cards are between 120mm-155mm.
I bought my 011 because of your review. It replaced my Air 540. I am very happy with it for my gaming pc. I will look for this on sale on Newegg and get this one too. I can store it and buy my water cooling parts over time. It would make a great X570 build. Steve you do some of the best case reviews, thank you very much for all your hard work.
Wish I would have waited a few months. While I'm mostly pleased with my O11 Dynamic, it has one unforgivable flaw, which this version addresses. There isn't enough of a gap between the floor of the case and the bottom edge of the mother board. I'm not able to mount a center bottom fan because of interference with the front panel USB 3.0 header plug.
"Snowflake for scale" needs to be a part of every case review.
I would appreciate a test showing the performance under the best possible configuration you could develop, that might help seeing as maximizing performance in cooling is something a lot of people will want to do
I was looking forward to this review, The main thing I wanted to know and still want to know is CPU tower clearance.
UPDATE:
Found in another review 167mm clearance so large air coolers will now fit.
upvote for visibility.
SS S Steve pls pin this. Also hi Snowflake😊
I have always been an air cooler kinda guy so this is one of the first things I always look for in case specs and reviews.
Nice! I really wanted to buy an 011 dynamic, but my Noctua DH15 wouldn't fit, 5mm too tall! Glad I decided not to buy anything else instead and just waited. Looks like the 011XL is gonna be perfect!
I laughed when the O11 air didn't fit the best air cooler
O11: Looks good and performs well
NZXT & Corsair: Confused screaming
To those confused companies - It's called airflow. Most cases don't have it, and it's really baffling.
NZXT cases have good airflow though, at least I've been happy with my h700, or maybe I'm missing something
@@DMan-ud6bt That blew me away
More likely nzaxt than corsair
NZXT is hardly confused nor is corsair.
I'm here mainly to help figure out which cat will earn best supporting actor this awards season.
The competition is really tough this year.
@@aakashsahani2991 it absolutely is. Even with my score chart it's way too close to call at this point. More research required.
@@SirNickyT yes, especially after the Shane Dawson cat, cat celebrities CAME out to be important contenders.
CLINTON OR GO HOME!!!
don't forget Bitwit's cat.
Tip for the bottom fan tray, if you run door sealing strip on the inside edge of the bottom of the tray, you get MUCH better airflow as the fans can no longer drag air through the holes in the sides of the tray which just recycles internal air. Not as much of an issue if you have a radiator on the bottom because the radiator covers most of the holes, though it still helps.
Hey a little late to reply but thanks for the tip
01:33 "So what you end up with is a bit of an aquarium pc" 🐠
Then: 🐱
Makes sense.
I just got my Dynamic XL in the mail from Newegg the other day, I can confirm that they removed the laser engraved ROG logo in the bottom corner and replaced it with a sticker. It's very hard to get off but its possible
Awesome and Thank you, now what to do with the brand new still in the box regular 011 sitting behind me...LOL
@@PreacherwithoutaPulpit Well shit, I almost got the regular dynamic myself. I honestly think i could've gone either way
Thicc Nick Is this case a good one? I’m planning on building my first PC. So I’m a somewhat clueless beginner in this 😅
@@VelvetMagician been building my own pc's for 25 years and the ol 11 dynamic xl will probably be my next build case big open front and concealed roomy rear chamber are essential - easier to work in and space to hide the cables. use pcpartpicker.com to check component compatibility and check out bitwit kyles recent video on choosing parts, he suggests different builds from $600 up to $2000
Phil C So it’s a good case for beginner-leveled builders like me then xd
Ive reached a point where I like every gamers nexus video before I watch it. You guys have gained my trust especially with your case reviews. I was thinking about getting the XL but now I know that the O11 Dynamic still fulfills my needs
Steve sayings "it's a good case" translates to 'it's amazing'
4 years later and this case is still one of the most functional cases on the market, I kept it like I kept my Silverstone RV01. As I was building in it again today I realized how excellent the drive bays are, Lian Li should really get into NAS/Server cases because I would absolutely love a larger 011 XL with 6x 3.5" bays to build my NAS into. Only needing one Sata power for two drives and having the Sata cables attached to the drive bays is just excellent, only thing missing is the extra 2x drive bays which would finish my Raid 5 configuration.
The Phanteks NV5 is a great case especially for being half the price of the 011 but the 3.5" drive door is absolutely terrible in comparison to the 011, I get most people buying these types of cases like the NV5 don't require mechanical drives but I do. Its so hard to find a case today that supports at least 4x 3.5" drives with 3x SSD's while supporting long GPU's and large tower coolers like the NHD15. I just wanted to show my appreciation for this amazing case.
I don't know what my life has come to when I actually sit through an entire case review...
You could've wasted 6 times more time on watching a match of the most popular RL sports game. Instead, you watched something technical with new information in it, that could one day prove useful. You're good.
I have the O11 non-XL and it’s really good. Seeing this makes me love the O11 series more. Only reason I didn’t get the XL was because the normal model would fit on my desk and the XL wouldn’t, but I’m not complaining, I’m happy with that I got right now.
My finger hovered over the "buy" button the regular PC-O11 yesterday. I am SO glad I resisted. Had no idea this was coming out!
If you buy the case, make sure you have 90 degree usb front headers because my normal front headers are literally impossible to use.The edge of my fan is about 1.5 cm away and flush with the top of the header. Maybe if you buy an ultra flexible header extender it might work. But get 90 degree headers.
As an owner of the non XL 011 Dynamic and a non loop water cooler, I went a different route which arguably some may say is overkill.
I decided to go with a "positive pressure" (to reduce the amount of dust collecting inside the case) and use nine, yes nine 120mm fans (3 with an AIO). I use 3 on the vertical side side as intake, along with 3 intake at the bottom. I use 3 fans with a 360mm radiator for the AOI used to cool the CPU as an exhaust out the top.
Note this is an relatively expensive build as all fans are RGB as is the CPU block cooling the i9 9900k, motherboard, and the 2080TI. Yes somewhat of a light show but then it is an "aquarium" type case. Now I can't compare my results to yours as far as temperatures, but let's just say, even in the summer without my AC running, I have NEVER hit 80 C yet (believe 77 may have been the highest) on either the CPU or the GPU. I'm usually in the lower 70s.
Thanks Steve for a great channel and keep up you great work, says this old guy 65+ and still gaming.
What fans did you use? I just used the original dynamic in a custom Cyberpower build, and got 3 phanteks bottom intake and the Kracken x62 exhaust on the top. Keeps it fairly cool (upper 60s/mid 70s) on my 9700k/1660ti, but was thinking about upgrading the 3 "stock" fans and adding 3 fans - all RGB. Was having trouble finding RGB intake for the side/bottom.
@@jdowls9538 I used 3 sets of 3 Thermaltake Pure Plus 12 RGB TT Premium... 56.45 CFM... at the time I bought them they were are $58 for a 3 pack .... just checked on Amazon and they are $44.99 atm
Oh yes, i buy derbauer products for his general germanness
General Germanness needs to be a new seal of quality
As James May would say “ Quality German engineering and design “
Hes not wrong tho, i hate looking at the "rog certified" badge
@@PixelWolv why ? This badge means it has quality lol
@@lel3019 according to one company/group, thats cool and all, but i dont need their certification plastered on the side, me and anybody who sees it knows its a quality case.
Great design, I really like, especially the clear bottom intake path to GPU.
Glad to see no included fans. They're usually a waste IMO, people buy specific for their overall build and/or carry over from old rig when buying premium cases.
E2A: It's been nice to see good Lian Li cases. They've always had great aesthetics, but terrible cable management and/or airflow.
So, the Walmart PC brought me to GN. Then a sub happened. Then I found your 011 Dynamic testing vid. Then I built my first modern PC in one after not bothering to do one for more than a decade. I am glad they made a new XL version. Settling in for some good content.
That's awesome that you found us that way! Stay tuned this weekend for something related to that!
@@GamersNexus Haww yess
I've been using the Lian Li 011 XL Dynamic case for about four years now. It's served well and I'll continue to use it for years to come
I have the O11 dynamic, and I see this case solved several issues that Steve didn’t mention for some reason. First, the O11 dynamic has *nowhere* to put a fan hub. The hard drive cages are nit made of solid material so you cannot magnet stick to them. There are no other choices. You have to just shove the fan hub in the case and hope you dint need to swap anything later on. This case solves this by making the back of the hard drive cages solid metal, so magnets can stick. Presumably. I havent tried it. The middle bar also appears to be large enough to stick to, whereas in the original it is too small and full of holes so the fanhub falls off. When I use the o11 I wondered why there isnt a top latch, the screws are totally unnecessary. It is nice to see them add that. My biggest problem with the o11 is the space between bottom fans and the motherboard. I cannot physically plug in the usb3 front headers because there is no space, and powerful people in the industry *cough, steve* are not pressuring companies to make front side 90 degree usb 3 connectors standard. I do not know if this case solved this issue, because Steve didn’t cover it.
1. We don't use fan hubs and don't really like them, so not something we think about.
2. We don't stick magnets to our hard drive cages...? Never heard of that as a use case. Also, for aluminum parts, you should probably know aluminum isn't magnetic. Super weird comment for you to make, especially since you then say "I dunno, I haven't tried it."
3. We explicitly mentioned the space between the bottom, dude. Like two times.
4. It's not our responsibility to push for changes you want. We don't really care about IO angle. You need to realize that we focus on one thing most, and that's performance. We almost never talk about IO. And if you're talking internal, that's something to demand of motherboard makers, not case makers. You are placing unfair expectations on us, especially since some of your demands are not universal truths but just preferences or very small tweaks. Also, this video is already 25 minutes long. A few of your things we actually did mention. Really bizarre comment, especially the magnet thing.
I have a 360x45mm radiator and ML-120 fans on the bottom of my o11 Dynamic and I pretty much need to remove the radiator if I need to do anything with the bottom few inches of my motherboard. With my old motherboard that had USB3.0 headers on the bottom of the motherboard, I had to buy a low profile extension cable to use the headers.
As for fan controllers, I have a Corsair Commander Pro attached to my cable bar thing near the top, it sits there fine but does require me to put the bar in at the bottom, attach all the cables then screw it in. There is also a small issue of not having enough space for all the cabling in that area so I currently have the side panel off to prevent the cables rubbing up against the side mounted fans.
I am seriously considering upgrading to the XL simply for the extra space that it has in it. I have heard that there is a included vertical mount for the GPU but Steve didn't mention anything about it so I am wondering if it is still included or not. :\
Oh, another difference (if it is still there) is that the panels are made from aluminium in the XL while the original has steel panels which is one of the reasons for the extra cost.
My 011 build weighs 56 pounds. I absolutely prefer the positive lock in with the top panel screws and slider tabs. Without either of those lifting the case would just make the side panels slide up and break plastic quick releases. And then all my spaghetti would be spilled.
Gamers Nexus Oh okay, so common use cases that 95% of people care about and look for in a review are somehow irrelevant in your mind? You have 9+ fans in the case, and having a fan hub to control them is ‘bizarre’? You make entire videos about whether a gpu performs better with a washer, but refuse to acknowledge that motherboard makers are building products where large numbers of features are physically impossible to use in many common use cases? That doesn’t make sense. The fan hubs can stick to the components in the case, but the case has too many holes for various reasons. Screw holes, gaps for cables, places for tie downs. There is nowhere to put the hub in the original o11 unless you have a significantly below average sized hub. Normal hubs just dint have space, and in a case with NINE FANS that is a legitimate concern. One that I wish reviewers had mentioned, and if I were on the market today I would expect reviewers to tell me about. Because it changes the way I view the case.
Johnny Nimble Dont pick the case up by the sides! You pick it up by the back and bottom. No issues. All riveted.
I bought the Air version a while ago. It was about 140 euros, and it came with 2 fans.
It's ah "well, thanks, but should I really thank you?" kind of thing. Since I wanted to overkill on the air flow department, I populated every spot that was available. And that's 2x80mm and 9x120mm (and the CPU AIO WC radiator takes the last spot for more 2x120mm). Excluding that last bit, the case with the fans was about the price of this case ("had" to buy 7x120mm). However, who buys this case has an open loop WC solution in mind. So, having fans included would just be something that they wouldnt use. I used the two included fans, but had to "hide" them, so they wouldnt mess with the case overall aesthetics. Because that's another thing people that buy these cases care about. It's not only about the performance, it's how it looks. Having two miss matched fans staring down on you is just... an eye sore.
I was excited, until I saw ROG Certifed on the glass.....Why?
I hope its not laser etched or anything and it can be removed.
ROG is cringe especially with their fake ass vrms...
I hope it's sticker or paint..... Just why da F
@@Aleww What are you on about? My Strix card has some of the best vrms compared to other AIBs. And this is a case, no vrms.
@@cydonia9342 I actually like so of the ROG stuff but putting the branding on a case like this was just stupid to me. even the Asus Tuf stuff has a design other than just that little badge
Came for the cat.
Amd chief writer : snowflake.
mojo2418 😂😂😂😂
I'm here for the hair...
Yes for the cats
CEO Snowflake in the thumbnail
*Everybody liked that*
I'm a simple man, I see Snowflake, I click.
You guys really need to add a watercooled test setup, AND start testing cases with their MAXIMUM fan capacity in addition to the standard test! It seems such an obvious oversight.
What makes a great case isn't just how well it performs with X number of fans. It's also *how many fans* it can hold. That's how we improve cases in leaps and bounds - more fans, more unobstructed airflow.
Both tests are important, so please do both!
The problem with this suggestion is that watercooling is still a bit prohibitively expensive in comparison to air cooling. Even most garbage systems from OEM's & SI's are going to come with a few fans included in the build, so it's easier to test for cooling scenarios 99% of consumers will experience. The only difference, of course, is the kind of fans GN uses.
Not only is watercooling not really a standardized, affordable method of cooling compared to fans... but also, where do you even start? You have AIO's, the most affordable of which are the 120mm variants that are basically useless with high-end parts. And the prices only increase as you go up in radiator size & subsequent fan increase. And if you go full-on liquid reservoir cooling with custom waterblocks & pumps, the prices jump up even more. The vast majority of consumers will never utilize liquid cooling, so it doesn't make much sense to test it as a standardized cooling configuration.
GN's current method is the best: test the AIO's they are interested in as their own separate pieces, and leaving custom loops out of the picture entirely.
not gonna lie, this is the first sponsor i really looked into buying, 3 years for $100 is a really good deal for a vpn
Betternet for free is even better lel
@@randomsomeguy156
Betternet sucks compared to a service like NordVPN. No killswitch, and it's free.....so when it comes down to keeping the lights on or not....they WILL sell your data to survive. And it's slow slow slow.
@@randomsomeguy156 I mean, I wouldn't say NordVPN is much better considering that they didn't bother to disclose a data breach they had full knowledge of until someone did it for them. 🥴
When you have to do an entire video comparing a Lian-Li case to itself.
Really don't have time for this, need to catch a flight but I see Snowflake, I click.
Sean Tabor you have your priorities in the correct order. Good man!
This might be my next case
same
Do it. Had it 4 months, its HUGE so be prepared but its a beauty, and a blast to build in.
@@PixelWolv I have a xigmatec elysium. It's a lot bigger than the lianli lol
Iv started the build. Got 2 60mm 360mm rads with a 300mm res I've managed to get 13 120mm fans in there. Haven't sorted any cables out yet though but the mobo is in. Waiting on the new ryzen and navi to come out
Ok
This was my first case
This case is clean as hell! Not too much RGB with a nice black and white design
Highly recommend this case. Had it for a year with Corsair water cooling. Almost silent with 2 360mm radiators and temps around 35 to 45 C under load (2080 Super).
I don't understand why you have 2x360mm radiators, can you explain me that ?
David JLN Hopefully it’s running cooler than just 1 360 rad. Haven’t tested this yet. Might get 3080 and that will more than likely run hotter as well.
Best pc case I ever owned performance/looks wise... I have a deepcool assassin III in it and I got a non modular psu, cable management was a breeze I can leave all fans on 40-50% on summer even while gaming (3x 120mm sidem 2x140mm bottomm 1x120mm rear, 140mm exhaust top) putting on full only lowers the cpu temps by 1c and there's lot of noise... I almost get no dust inside the case at 40%, the filters plus how it's over an inch off the ground helps a lot. You can get so much intake in that even budget fans could do the job well at lower db so yeah it is great even for air cooling.
Moved my build to this case recently, it's amazing. Cooling is pretty nice and my components stay remarkably quiet. I have top exhaust Liquid Freezer II 360 on top, 3 intake on side, 3 intakes on bottom.
The bottom fans in my case, doubles as a vacuum cleaner.
Bin there.
That's why I like to exhaust out the bottom, even though it's technically better for cooling to blow up towards the GPU.
I like that the PSU sits sideways and takes in air from the side instead of from underneath the tower as well.
Your videos sold me on this case and gave me the information and confidence I needed to tackle building my first PC and my parts arrive next week!
Here’s my build list:
-Ryzen 9 3600
-ASUS ROG Crosshair viii HERO.
-EVGA RTX 2070 Super
-4 x G SKILL Trident Z Neo 3600 x 16 (64 total)
-Deepcool Castle 360 ex
-Samsung 970 evo PLUS 1T
-Seagate BarraCuda 2T
-EVGA Supernova 850 P2 Platinum
-7 fans
-3 side intake
-3 bottom intake
-1 back exhaust
-(AIO with fans will be top mount exhaust)
My main focus is on photoshop/3D rendering and finally gaming.
What do you think?!
Abandon that standard method, just fullfill it with fans, try show the best the cases can do. That's why im here and i think many others too. This standard method is like review a 2080 ti w/ OC with a blower cooler, what's the point on limit its performance.
Sorry for any bad english, no time to review it now.
Caio César Martinelli 100% agree. If it comes with stock fans you can show the result, but show me the case filled with Noctua’s in the best lay out and tell me which is actually best.
This series is for enthusiasts, so show what an enthusiast would do.
I love than a channel with the word "Gamer" in the name gives me such a scientific approach to a case review. This is making case shopping very easy for me..
the ROG certified text ruins it for me
I'll be okay with it since I plan on using ROG 2080's but yeah having extra logos is a negative thing really. I wonder if there will be a way in the future to remove it.
CALiiGeddon go to your local glass store and have them make you up a new front panel. Problem solved
The_invaders I have the case and I don’t even notice that sh**. I use my PC as a workstation/gaming rig I could give two shi** about the logo the case runs cool
i covered mine with a relevant sticker.
`first 3 letters of my name is Rog so it has my certification XD.
im buying this one next month
Nice to see Lian Li making affordable cases with there style and expertise . I have always wanted a Lian Li case . They are the only cases I have seen with tempered glass front and side panels that have ample air flow compared to most other cases of the type . Thanks for this review Steve ! 1up
Its such a good looking case, it might be the replacement for my Air540
To me this is a true customize case that you can build the way you want and use the fans you want is a plus, plus. In other builds I have change the fans and not use the stock fans. I truly believe people who do custom builds love a case like this ware nothing gets wasted, and you put what you want. True freedom
I hope Lian Li makes the drive bays in this case available by themselves. I'd love to put one in my O11 Dynamic.
Mike Oleksa Same here, that would be great
You guys made me buy the Fractual R6 and then the O11D. Your reviews are spot on.
I'm very happy with my O11D by the way. Absolutely brilliant case.
The cat likes it, so conclusion it must be good, Lianli was hard to get years ago, hope they improved their export now. Bauer would say ' Deutsche punktlichheit'
YESSS! I bought this based on your review of desktop cases. Thanks so much. Got the Lian Li pc-o11dw Case White! I am as excited about this as the 3080 I ordered!
Whose arms are those? Such a weird cut from Steve to those arms.
Pat. Steve has a build elf. Edit: TWO build elves
The only one working at the office that I know of skinny enough would be Patrick.
I believe it is Patrick
I think it's Steve's Asian GF 😂
Andrew is often the one shooting broll, so typically him! We did joke that everyone would think it's Patrick, though.
5.25 drive bays are something that I will always want and love, cds and blu-ray at least for now aren't going anywhere and having the ability to own the media you love and rip it for personal enjoyment on the go is a must. However if I was building a server or a computer for a friend I would more then likely forgo the 5.25 drive bays because outside of my specific use case they are not needed.
100% of GN B-roll footage going forward should contain a cat interacting with the reviewed product.
The one thing that stands out and should be mentioned moore often regarding Lian Li's cases is this: Do not use the stock magnetic air filters. They're really restricting with airflow. The bottom airfilter which is a more traditional mesh style isn't so restricting and can be used but the sides and top magnetic filters are chocking the internal hardware. I removed the stock filters and kept my fans at their same settings and my temps dropped 12c. Lian Li.... You can do better. And yes, remove the one for the power supply as well... that thing needs good airflow too. If you're like me and clean the inside of your case often (every two weeks for me and I don't have a lot of dust where I live) then you needn't worry about dust buildup at all.
Great review as always. I would love to see you do "max" cooling potential and optimal fan setups as part of case reviews!
He did it for the standard version and it looked like the standard 3 fans on the side was the best. I think however that this case is built more towards watercooling builds.
To be clearer, I meant "max" cooling as in if the case can utilize 10 fans put in 10 fans and compare to a case that cant.
@@ryanfitzgerald7647 I also wonder that difference with 9 fans as well.
@@ryanfitzgerald7647 i have the standard o11 dynamic with 9 bequiet 120mm fans in. gpu under load rarely exceeds 45-50 degrees and runs fairly quiet. i found the more fans you use in this case the less work each fan has to do the quieter it runs.
@@iainparkinson3238 I'm running the same case with 9 fans as well. I'd like to see apples to oranges comparisons on cases in general because absolutely no enthusiast would run a case with 3 fans if it could fit more. Would be a great addition to his reviews!
Oh, great. I thought I'd love my O11 Dynamic too much to want an upgrade for years. I now want this.
I'm kind of upset...i JUST ordered and received my loan li dynamic....i havent opened it yet though
@@whiispyy The o11 dynamic is a wonderful case. No need to be worried about that. The XL just looks a little bit bigger, which is what I wanted before. I ended up moving my data files to a file server, so I don't have to worry about local storage with my main machine anymore.
lol ok thanks for confirming. I was on the fence on just ordering the XL and selling the dynamic new in box for $100 and taking a 30 dollar hit
I just wish the original dynamic has a hotswap bay and it would be almost the prefect case.
thanks to you and your team, the amount of work and quality that goes in to your work shows. im grateful your in depth dives shows the niddy and griddy your diligence has helped me buy my case set it up and over clock thank you!
Does anyone know if the ROG part is removable? I really don't like having branding on my cases so that is a deal breaker for me.
you might be able to scrape it off with a sharp razor blade, but that is just speculation, im not sure it will actually work
It's probably a sticker or if it's mechanically painted on that paint is very strong. Good news is hope depot has a huge amount of chemicals to play with And you can't really damage glass. So you can buy some cleaner. Let it soak and scrub it away
It is fully etched to the glass panel sadly E: it's not anymore.
@@53543 heard from a couple places that moving forward they were going to be putting that on a sticker.
@@mitchelltyner5670 I got mine like a week ago and the logo is silk screened on the glass. That said, as visible as it is on case photos, when in use it's very low key. Pretty dark when lit from behind with any color lighting, even dim (but it pops out when blacking out those LEDs). And when the case is full of stuffs, your eyes are never drawn to that empty corner :) It's such a blast to build in that case, and with that level of cooling performance, i wouldn't pass on it just for a logo
Case superb for liquid cooling with all its capabillities, but... it's noisy, very noisy. I use vardars fans set to low rpm. I didn't notice significant deferences in components temps between 3x360 custom loop in it and my old 2x360 loop in Fractal's Meshify S2 which was quieter. Other thing - this case has no fan hub despite it has rgb controller ! Another drawback - you must remove top panel to open side glass panel ! Thing i love in it is way of mounting hard drives. Summarizing - for me this case is 3/5, i'm still looking for LC case of my dreams.
That's a really nice case, except for that blemish on the glass on the bottom left side panel.
Got this case 2 years ago to support dual GPUs and never once did any component overheated. Great casing!
hey, may i ask your cooling set up?
@@xVuuM3 Pencil ready? 😉 Arctic P12 12cm - 3 at the bottom blowing in, 3 on the side blowing in, 1 on the back blowing out, 1 on top blowing out, 1 Corsair H100i Platinum 240mm on top blowing out.
XFX 5700, XFX Merc 310 7900XTX, Ryzen 5900.
Stress test - Phoenix Miner running ETC, total 300-320W from 2 GPUs. CPU mining Raptoreum on 12cores, putting out 100W, 2 sticks of Gigabyte PCIe Gen 4 NVME 7000Mb/s both needing heatsink passive cooling on the mobo.
After 8 hours of stress test, ambient temp is about 28-30C, inside temp around 46-50C. I can't remember the fan speeds, probably near the P12 max RPM. GPUs are 55-57C, CPU (4.4Ghz) about 70C. The Lian Li case is noticeably warm to touch!
Noise level? Definitely noticeable!
Gaming test, Radeon 5700 mining and 7900XTX playing Cyperpunk 2077, the fan also ramps up coz the 7900XTX is pulling 385W but the noise mostly comes from the fans on the Cosair H100i screaming at 2500rpm. Gaming workload ebbs and flows. Average heat output isn't that bad.
Conclusion, I love this case! The only downside is the need to clean the mesh filters every 3 months. I only use these mesh filters on the intake vents, so bottom and side panels. There's no point to use mesh on the outlet vents on top since I run my rig 24/7.
Hope that helps.
1:49 I see you are using an anti-static bracelet, fighting static and cancer at the same time like a pro pc builder.
I reckon those are female handz.
Much nicer than the Silverstone imo. Much cleaner glass edges and the attachment points are hidden whereas the Silverstone has screws exposed. Great vid and review! 👌🏻
Years later from the original o11d video and you STILL didn’t test with 9 fans? And on an even bigger case meant for 10?! Come onnnnnn mannnn 🤦♂️
Fits 13 easily, assuming a 360mm rad is part of the count
YOU never even mentioned that this case is M7 now, and its made to line up perfect for water cooling.
You should mention the maximum cooler height. That was the big turn off for me with the o11 dynamic.
From Lian Li's site PCI-E Slot to glass for PC-O11 XL is 172mm (non-xl: 150mm) and PCI-E to metal is 169mm. Tallest Noctua CPU cooler is NH-D15:160mm (according to Noctua) but newegg said it is 165mm. Tallest CPU cooler I found in 2019 is Cooler Master AIR MA610P with 167mm. Widest video card I can find so far is 168mm (Water Block) while most air cooled video cards are between 130mm-155mm.
An air cooler would not do this case justice. Fit a 360 aio.
Been waiting forever to hear news about this case. Thank you!!!
Please review the Corsair ICUE 220T! It looks awesome and is a bang for the buck!
Is this case still a viable option in late 2024? Especially concerning connectivity I suppose. This seems to have amazing noise performance, which I love, and doesn't look horribly tacky still.
Ooh yes it's still a viable choice in 2024. I've just upgraded from a smaller Thermaltake case to this Dynamic XL and it's amazing. The temps are lower, the cable management is brilliant and the "oreo" black and white build is really special.
I highly recommend it.
@@JazzysTrove Thanks for sharing your experience, really appreciate it!
I would have gone with this case for my new build but that ROG logo kills it.
It's a metal sticker lol it went in the trash
i purchased this case , covers all bases. great case. Would buy again
Phanteks Luxe 2 review coming as well?
It is finally going to be released after hearing about it in January. Can’t wait to buy it. This will be my 3rd Lian Li case. The first two were PC75 and A71F which served me well for over 15 years. Only thing disappointing is that it is not aluminum. Love this brand.
it is aluminium exterior all around, but for the white one, it's painted so that's something hard to find out. GGF explain that.
@@jamesonchen1258 you’re right. Meant to say not full aluminum. Interior parts are metal I think. That was from all the measly info I could find here and there the past months. At this point I just want to get my hands on one. Hopefully Amazon and Newegg will have it soon in September.
Let me know when I can buy it, everywhere I look it's out of stock
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This is such an awesome case, so very roomy and even though it has very odd intake it actually does very well.
9:30
Is this removable?
I highly doubt it. It looks etched.
Great review. I bought one of these--saw the review after I built my system up/moved stuff over. Really happy with it--I am a gamer + use computer for work, so hard-drive bays are great. Love it.
Dont tell me its Derbauers girly arms you edited in :)
Girly arms are best arms 💪
@Conor Hanley Nah, people of other genders can have girly arms too, and it's good! :)
Man, you don't know how his "girly" arms are helpful in terms of modding. They are like a goddamn robotic manipulators can go and do shit everywhere even in tight chassises. At the same time my sausage like fingers and gigantic arms that are better suited for blacksmithing require ENORMOUS computer case to make process of building a new rig slightly more comfortable. So i guess these arms are good for what he is doing.
Personally i am working with cars and etc. But if i will not be lazy i can end up with blacksmithing as a hobby to be honest. I just compared my fingers that way because they are not very flexible and thin. That's all.
I wish you'd included an air cooler standoff measurement. I'd think a big advantage this case has over the o11 Dynamic is the ability to use some of the taller tower coolers. The o11 Dynamic and air are both pretty much limited to short coolers like your test bench, CLCs or stock coolers.
The XL is aluminum, not steel (like the pc-o11 dynamic).
only the external panels
Speaking as someone who has an 011 Dynamic and a ROG board with included wireless and a large wireless antenna -
I would remove the upper plastic snap and use the remaining hole to route my wireless cables out to the ports on the back IO placing my antenna just inside my case, hidden. I do this now, but with the 011 Dynamic, I have to run this through the hard drive cage in the back and then back through to the front.
I also realize that my wireless signal is not going to be as good with the antenna in the case, however, I usually am wired in on my desktop, and the signal is not so bad that it is un-useable.
Have you looked into what would have to be done to remove the ROG cert on the panel?
Amazing Case. Here's my build
Case: O11D XL Black
CPU: 5600X OC'D to 4.75GHz @1.28V
GPU: 5600XT (wanted a 6800XT but Covid sucks)
Mobo: MSI X-570 Tomahawk wifi
Ram: Gskill Trident Z NEO 3600MHz 16-19-19-39
Fans: 9x Coolermaster MF 120 ARGB
PSU: EVGA G2 1300W Gold (yeah its overkill but was leftover from previous build)
Your build is very nice, I am planning a similar build and looked at all the parts you're using but ended up with a slightly different build.
Case: O11D XL
CPU: 5600X
GPU: 3080 (But waiting for it to come in stock, using my old card until then)
Mobo: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE (Still kind of undecided on this one, my second option would be the one you're using)
Ram: Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO C18 AMD Ryzen 18-22-22-42 (Seen the RAM you were using but it was too expensive for me)
Fans: Lian Li UNI FAN SL120 RGB
PSU: Corsair RM750x 750W Gold
What do you think about the motherboard so far? I heard a lot of people being angry with Gigabyte's RGB software so feeling kind of unsure about the motherboard
All I needed was a BD drive bay, dudes. Otherwise, the original dynamic would be perfect for me.
I can't believe it are there still people using CDs in 2019 please tell me youre joking
@@mankindanddestiny7798 Original.
Orange Car Bad 1995 called, they want their optical drive back.
@@mankindanddestiny7798 for windows installation🙈🙈
The only issue I've had with this case so far is that the hot swap bays are totally enclosed and the drives get really hot. Mine were 51c and 53c. I had to velcro a fan to the back of the case, which dropped temps by 12c. They should've at least cut out one side of the bays for ventilation. Would also be nice to mount a fan there. Weird design flaw considering how well-engineered the rest of the case is.
Oh thank god i thought I was just having an issue with my hard drive. I got a new WD Black 6tb and it hit 60C after an hour of transferring 1tb of data. It might not help that I have my side fans as exhaust either though. Do you have pics of how you mounted your fans to the hard drive enclosure?
so Scrapyard Wars: GN's Cat vs. Linus' Cat
I understand the testing methodology in terms of consistency and relative comparisons to other cases, but if you are using 3 fans in this case you are doing it wrong. I have 9x120mm in my standard 011 Dynamic along with a 360mm AIO, works like a charm, cool and quiet.
i want an 011 mini for itx and sfx power supplies, that fits 3 slot gpus!
They released the PC-Q37 Mini-ITX a few years ago, which follows the same aesthetic. But like the original PC-011 (not the dynamic) it's super expensive!
If they released a "dynamic" version of that, then I'd be all for it.
th-cam.com/video/c3HcbOw1_YQ/w-d-xo.html Even better.
I brought a pc 011 razor best case I've ever owned. Thank you Steve as without decent reviews I would have brought the Cooler master h500. Keep up the good work.
00:42 that NordVPN advert has aged badly...
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I like the tool-less plus screws. In the house, tool-less. If travelling, screw in. Captive = they don't get lost.
could please include basic things like front panel IO, even if it is only in the written review
Do you not have eyes? Are you unable to read the manufacturers website?
even the manifactures website dosnt cover this well, this video only covers ariflow well, GGF Events did a way better review of the fetures of this case
Fan intakes at the bottom and fan exhausts at the top. Its a straight line for the cool air to go a brilliant design. Heat wants to rise anyway so makes a lot of sense.
if only that "rog certified" logo was a casebadge, placed next to the "der 8auer" badge. etching it into the windows is a bad move. it is the same as with back in the days, acrylic windows with holes in it. looks horrible.
Or at least removable..
I love Gamers Nexus’ methods of testing thermals and performance on pretty much every component they test. Thank you guys. Big fan. In this video, I found myself thinking that I would love if they added one more test category to the results of each case test suite: Best enthusiast configuration, or Maximum performance configuration. As an enthusiast I’m going to replace fans and try to maximize the cases performance. Stock configuration doesn’t apply to the way I build, though I see the value in testing that way for comparison purposes. I’d love to see that on case builds. Ps. I do realize that could potentially add a lot of time to testing, but a man can dream.
Ha. Then I kept watching the video. They basically did just that. Go GN.
tech jesus has gotten some sexy hands!
I ordered this case with maingear. Thanks for the review!
1:49 closup of your hands makes them look rather feminine :) is that a by product of using liquid nitrogen or Oil of Ulay
Unknown hand model.
All of the reviews i say Lian Li has the best looking and practical PC cases
It has the ROG branding, of course its gonna be grossly overpriced. If they plan a normal, non branded version will be probably $150-160.
No because the normal O11 Dynamic is $140
@@studog858585 Why the price has gone up in NA ? I remember at launch the NA pre order price was $120. And 130 afterwards.
In Germany currently costs €125. The XL ''ROG'' will be over €200.
I dont think the XL version costs them too much to produce to justify its price of $200. Its just the branding in the particular case. The realistic price should be $160 up to $180 at best.
@@kindis4282 this is what you get extra for 60 bucks
Larger case
Alu panels instead of steel
RGB at the front
2 USB at the bottom edge
2 more extra 3.5" HDD bays
All 4, 3.5" drive cages are hot swap
Case feet are now alu
Now support for a decent radiator solution at the bottom while having a vertical GPU.
Now comes with 3 SSD plates that can go in the side rad spot or bottom rad spot.
@@studog858585 I just watched GGFs channel's videon on the case and thats pretty much what he said. Its not only upgrades though, the top has been downgraded in terms of radiator space compared to the basic version.
Also I really hope they put out a normal non branded version even if the price is the same. Not that im gonna build in one of those but forced branding sucks.
I like how the Cool-Man case is represented in a lot of those temp graphs.
can this case accommodate taller air coolers like the noctua nh-d15?
Yes it can as per what Der8auer said on the Facebook Lian Li Stream. It can fit any air cooler currently on the market.
@@prin8724 thanks, I don't use facebook so I had no idea
I think its funny that hw talks about the engendering over aesthetics approach that was taken in designing the case but I honestly feel like its one of the cleanest looking cases out there. I do get the bit about a lot of the "glass and metal boxes" out there traditionally not preforming well and at least this one does. The only thing I find kind of bizarre is that the 011 dynamic doesn't support a back fan and I'm glad to see a spot for one on the 011 dynamic xl. Honestly overall I think there's a lot of cool ideas in the variations of this particular series of cases (011 mini / dynamic / dynamic xl) that I kind of whish would just get combined into one case. Like how is it that the o11 mini has back support for a fan but the 011 dynamic doesn't? Couldn't they have just made the case slightly wider? I mean I guess the reason why was to include support for larger form factor psu's, as the mini only allows for sfx psu's if I'm not mistaken.
I think my issue is that these cases are so close to checking all the boxes but each version just has somethign about it that I feel annoys me. I love the idea of the mini but I don't want to buy a new sfx psu and possibly a new itx mobo instead of the atx I'm currently using. Using the atx cuts down on radiator support at the top and bottom of the case. On the other hand the xl is just well kind of large for my needs and even though it does come with some nice bells and whistles.... I cant help but feel like I'm over paying for space I don't really need, but at least it has support for a 120mm back fan...
Maybe gamers nexus should just get together and go through all their case data and design the perfect metal and glass box. I'd buy it.