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Can this plugin really replace a whole chain of mastering plugins?
That's EXACTLY the question we set out to answer in this weeks PLUGIN OF THE WEEK!
I'm going to swap out The God Particle plugin (yep, just one plugin) for my typical mastering chain of over 4 plugins!
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I think your chain was a bit brighter on the highs, but definitely impressed with the one plug-in master!
Absolutely! But I also want some more separation out of the master… Definitely feel like I could do it with 2-3 plugs including the God Particle. Loving the warmth though!
I agree.. however, JJ suggests to mix while using TGP on your mastering chain.. which might have you adjust your highs from start. Also he says the highs will rarely light up in green or remain consistent. I love highs myself… I wonder if you mix with it on would you find your highs shining.. per say lol. Take care.
Thanks for the review.. I’m going to purchase.
I also agree. Could be usefull to put a multiband before it to touch those highs.
Been using this thing for two months.
Changed my mastering approach completely. Its definitely my quick finish plugin. Just turning it on makes things sound so pretty.
THIS THING GOES GREAT WITH EVERYTHING! I use it to bring my "finished mix", up to average -14LUFS, then add C6 multiband comp and EQ AFTER the God Particle to button up everything neater and slightly more separated.
Worth the money definitely.
Absolutely worth every penny... I would recommend you keep it very last in the chain though, the adaptive limiter should stay last and is great with machine learning the lowend. Try popping the C6 BEFORE TGP to shape it on the way in, then use gain staging to get the most out of the final limiter.
The God Particle is the best plug-in ever! shout out Jaycen!!!!!!! 🔥
no competition. Yours is insane as far as all frequency specs have been fine tuned. Thanks for the demo!
Agreed
Your mix just sounds more smoother in the vocals high end less spssss
Thanks for a review! what an amazing plugin!!
Cheers! Yea, loving it over here!
I've been mixing into this plugin ever since I bought it, and I must say , it has saved me a lot of time. Especially working on my mix right from the beginning knowing how the final master is going to sound like after being hit by the limiter, my mixing decisions also got shaped in a certain way from the very start . Love this plugin big time.
Love it! It’s finding it’s way onto my mastering chain more and more lately
@@RadiumRecordsHollywood I’ve heard JJ is working on a new plugin for drum buss processing . I’m quite excited to see that ! Have you heard anything more about this ?
@@KarasamaBeats Can't wait! Haven't heard of it yet...
@@RadiumRecordsHollywood Bro a new plugin named "The Spirit" from Cradle came out yesterday. Plz do a review on it ! As its also on sale atm for 79$
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After the A/B, I preferred your mastering chain for sure.
I have been using it the first in my chain and it’s been great.
Nice! Definitely what I would do...
Stereo Imaging in it is phenomenal.
Best plugin I have purchased in 5 years. Worth every penny it's AWSOME
It's another awesome plugin in the tool box :)
I like both but the new plug in seems easy to use simplifying the process.
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Yea, great for getting some good weight, compression, level, and warmth.
I've been using the trial version for a few days now. Used in succession with other plugins I found its best use. It sounds good on its own, but I found it to be; if dialed in correctly, very useful in a 2buss or mastering chain situation. It certainly broadens the audio signal in a very pleasant way. Both mastering mixes you did sounded good and were different. However, your personal chain had a bit more depth.
Absolutely, Mitch! Yea, I go for depth and width in my mixes/masters... Just a personal taste thing. I like the mix to wrap around my head and be able to hear INTO the mix, don't think I can achieve that with this one plugin alone... Although, I wouldn't hesitate to try!
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Hey Brad. Great video. Listening through my little iPhone speaker very quietly your mix sounded far superior. I’ve just download TGP to demo and have used it for ten minutes or so. I think it’s amazing as long as you use an eq beforehand to brighten up the top end. Perhaps a maag eq 4 for the air band boost. Now that it’s a year since you made this video are you incorporating TGP into your mastering chain and if so with what other plugins and are those other plugins going in before or after TGP? If after then I take it you are bypassing the limiter on TGP? Also have you tried mixing into it from scratch?
I liked both mixes but the god particle had a slightly deeper low end on my system
C’est de la magie 👑 j’adore ce plug-in 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Really nice!
i got those ath headphones you recommended and want to thank you for that little gem. cheeers bro!
That’s what’s up! 🍻
Great video ur chain was brighter and more open. The God particle has very good punch and midrange. And it made the mix sound tighter
Cheers!
I’ve been using the GP a while now. I think a lot of people are confused: this isn’t a mastering plugin.
It’s for that newer in-between gray area between mixing and mastering. There’s a blurred line between these steps and the GP is a great fit for that.
Secondly, you’re only rarely ever going to hit that high end target. Joshua has said this. But if your air is going past the target, your machine x is fried - turn down those highs.
It’s a great plugin just before you hand your mix off for mastering, but it can’t compete - nor is it supposed to - with a full and proper mastering chain.
I like both, what is the god particle lufs getting to?
After a 5 day demo I brought it The God particle with pulsar audio massive 😱
Love it! I’ll have to try it out with Pulsar
I really liked how it pushed your mids more "in your face". Mixing into it would be ideal that way you could get the top end to your liking. I love the mojo and the limiter sounds really good.
Agreed. 100%. I can't wait to mix into it and really hear what this thing can do!
It's made to be mixed into
@@namelesstherebel Amen! The same way I mix into all my mastering chains...
I like the output of your mastering chain over God Particle. I was partial to the former already from the beginning, as hearing your original mix I said to myself, "How is one plug-in gonna beat or even match the obvious clarity and craftsmanship exemplified in the original master?" Therefore, I am more interested in understanding exactly what went into your approach than spending a little more than $100 on that new plug-in. Thanks so much for sharing this information! 😃
Happy to help!
I like your mastering chain better. I see that you were tuning up the brightness knob on The God Particle but it didn't seem to brighten up the mix enough to hit the target zone indicator in this example. Still impressed with The God Particle plugin though. Good review! 👍🏽
According to the manual, your supposed to mix INTO the plugin, whereas your adding it after. Your chain sounds more suited to your mix, as it should. But, what if you mixed into the plugin to begin with?
Yes. You are correct. But for this example I wasn't about to go re-do my full mix so that I could "mix into" a plugin on the masterchain... Simple test to hear what it could do on something already mixed.
It’s quite amazing. The low end sits nicely!
Eq ahead of it is something I’ve been trying out too. Since I cut more a lot like Jaycen Joshua I need to boost highs. What do you think should go after the god particle? Cheers
Love it! I would widen and separate a little after the plugin… Bht definitely cleaning up subgroups more before hitting this would help
your chain - is a god particle collider :) awesome work .. (plugin is great too)
Oh yea!!
I wanna listen full song !!! please give me the link ! thanks !
Hi David, could you replicate jaysen josgua's template for logic pro?
I definitely preferred your chain. However, as a single plugin chain the god particle is doing some very nice things. I think keeping my own EQ and Comp in the chain before the God Particle would allow still allow for some personal touches.
What did you use to make the devil vocal effect at 0:15? haha
Overall God particle sounds good but the high frequencies on your chain is sounding wow and smooth so just adding a good linear phase eq before the god particle can be a perfect chain
What about using the plugin for instruments? (Not the final chain). Does it make sense?
Yep! I would try it on subgroups for sure... Instruments/ Drum buss/ even vocal buss just to hear what it would do!
I do think that overall your chain sounds better but I don't have a clue what the F I am doing when it comes to mastering so... This god particle sounds perfect for me. It sure was good for as simple as it looks.
This plugin is a cheat code
I like yours better however i was quite surprised by the god particle plugin it sounded really good as well, nice tune btw👍🏾💯
I'll have to do a mix INTO the God Particle and see what happens!
@@RadiumRecordsHollywood that's what it is made for ...it's not a mastering plugin
@@snubdawg1386 Mixing into a plugin and then bouncing through that plugin on the "master" buss to create a "master"... That's mastering bud. Not sure if you just don't understand the definition of audio mastering? I'll paste it here for you so you don't go trying to correct people all over the internet without knowing what you're actually talking about.
@@snubdawg1386 "Mastering, a form of audio post production, is the process of preparing and transferring recorded audio from a source containing the final mix to a data storage device" - from this definition, you are bouncing through the "God Particle" on the "MASTER BUSS" to create a .wav file that is the "FINAL MIX" onto the storage device which is a "HARD DRIVE" or CD, etc.
@@snubdawg1386 Hope that helps!
Definitely your master sound more brighter! It’s a great plugin but will work better with another plugins on the chain not just this for sure!
Mastering is one thing I am not very well at. I don't like to take care about LUFS for spotify... youtube... soundcloud and generating several masters. Maybe, at some day I will 😉. Ok I tried the god particle a short time and compared it to a chain only using sonnox inflator and sonnox limiter at. After all I noticed that the god particle is doing some glue to the mix, that I don't reach by using the inflator, at all. On the over hand, I get cleaner basslines and shorter defined kicks with the sonnox limiter. But the interesting thing is, The God Particle, Inflator and Sonnox limiter in the chain plus bx_master (disabling the compression, setting mono to 110 and width to 10-20%). Sounds very good in my ears. However, I like the new plugin 😎
Look at what happens while using "tonal balance control" from izotope while playing with the god particle. Interesting, too.
Awesome! Gonna definitely have it on my next mastering chain to try it out!
i just got the plugin, but to use it as part of my mastering chain. any ideas on how to get the things that the plugin doesn't give? widening, depth, etc. Blessings from Argentina
Great question! I think you'll really want to get that out of your mix and mix subgroups before hitting this plugin... OR You could use some M/S processing AFTER the plugin.
The truth is there are NO RULES... Regardless of what anyone tells you.
@@RadiumRecordsHollywood thank you so much for your time! Looking forward to keep learning! God bless you
I like the music 🎵🎵
Your mastering chain was slightly better than using TGP. However, I think if you had more time with it, you could've matched your mastering chain using TGP. You're just that good.
I think you’re right, but it might’ve taken another plugin or two to get there…
your chain sounded the best!!! nice plug in though!
Cheers fam!
@@RadiumRecordsHollywood cheers
what song is this?
Definitely EQ ahead of it AND after you get the multi band in the green boxes hit the ext button up top..BAM!...it's nice.
The ext button opens things up like you were looking for...
Nice! I'll give the plugin some more time and see if I can work it into my chain...
I think it's a great reference tool to mix into... simple yet effective for reference. Great for quick mixes to hand off or just to have a general idea where to take the mix in the moment... once it sounds good enough turn the plugin off..print the track... pull it into a more focused mastering environment or send it off to be mastered knowing you won't get too many emails and phone calls about things that need redoing... I've been at this 30 years and have just about all the all in one style plugin's... I can already tell after a few days with it that it's gunna be a staple in my kit... best one out in a long time.
@@danielmcdill If you don't mind me asking could you go into further detail bout exactly how you use it? Particularly the Ext button?
@@danielmcdill It helps that Jaycen Joshua has golden ears and is very good with sonics!
God particle sounds more dynamic. Yours sound a lot brighter but they’re both great
Agreed! Hyped to dig deeper into it.
@@RadiumRecordsHollywood I’ll be waiting on your further break downs .
How would you compare this to T-racks One? Thanks.
I’ve never used T-Racks…
What mic is that
There is nothing to add in your comment … You did a very Nice & intuitive video… 🙏🏽🔥🤘🏽😎⭐️🇳🇨👊🏽
Cheers! Thanks for stopping by!
god particle is good but needs more plugins before it to get it to your test love the clarity of your vids btw
jaycen joshua is a mixing engineer, not a mastering engineer ...he claims he used the tgp on all of his in-the-box mixes the last years and recommends to use tgp in the mixing session as the only plugin on your masterbuss, without changing the settings and then start mixing into it...tgp is intended to be treated as a mixing console that has a specific mojo...after you did your magic and finished your mix, you print out the finalmix and start your mastering session or send the final mix file to a professional mastering engineer you can trust, who does his magic to finalize the song ....of course it's music so you can do whatever you want if you're happy with the endresults but tgp is meant to be a one stop mixing chain but not a one stop final mastering chain
Your chain sounds better. I use the god particle at the end of my own master chain. And it works great
Oh yea, been putting GP on my master buss now at the end and finding the sweet spot... It's an amazing color! Now that I've had some time with it, I realize how FAT it makes everything
@@RadiumRecordsHollywood ye for sure. Just opens the song up so much.
I believe it is more of a pre-master chain than an actual mastering chain.
Great video! What's the name of the artist in which song you are working on the video?
This was for a sync record for UMG... This is just the writer on the top line, think her name is Tima Dee
Yours sounded much better but i had this plugin when it first came out its ok nothing game changing!
Both sound good. On the GP one, just add a EQ before the GP and push the highs a little bit…
Why not use the high EQ on the GP if that's what you want?
Plugin is great but your's Mastering chain sounds more clean and fresh
Cheers! Thanks for stopping by
Can you do a break down for songs like this how it’s recorded and how it’s mixed with effects please brotha 😮💨😮💨🔥👀
Nice video, why didn't you gain match ? that plugin adds a serious amount of gain on default, very misleading,
Anyone can go demo the plugin... If you want, download it and gain match. This series is about running and gunning and hearing things for the first time, how I would mess with plugins that I don't know.
@@RadiumRecordsHollywood Gotcha keep up the good work .. I had already purchased it that's how I knew about the gain ...
Honest speaking your chain was kinda wide and i felt the energy was all time up with subtle brightness and good amount of loudness without loosing that warmth that a track is supposed to be having. On other hand the God particle is focusing more on that warmth specially in mid range as you said the Jaycen Joshua is good in that but rolling out that highs does removes some life of the track and comparing the mid side your own chain definitely wins a point on that part and even the low end in your chain does have subtle warmth and saturation that is kinda showing some good vibes but in god particle its more like saturation on over all track making it loud with some parallel processing. Thats what i felt 🙌🙌
Nice! Good feedback here. I appreciate you.
I have been getting good results using the maag 4 air band to boost the highs before going into god particle to compensate for the slight dip in highs
your master clearly wins hands down. god particle is essentially OTT for the the mix buss. if your using a mutiband in your chain this might be a good swap out, but why waste the money if you already own OTT or FF Pro MB?
Your chain is way better but the god particle sounds nice
I’m sure this plug-in has some good use cases, but your chain was way better! Still might check it out tho
Definitely give it a demo! Thanks for the love!
I love that you did a video for this plugin but also I think that you should of practice with it before, to understand it better on this video. It didn’t do the plugin justice.
Run this plugin through some already mixed references, to understand the marker ranges. Print that Song you worked on before, do a completely new mix ‘through’ the plugin (paying attention to the markers)
Then adjusting to taste. This program is almost 5 in 1.
Stay Awesome! 🙃
That is NOT what the plug-in of the week is about…. You can find “plugin reviews” all over the internet, this is my first impression without reading any manual/ watching other reviews. Hope that makes sense, if you don’t like the format, it’s not for you.
Master chain is far tighter..
Particle would need some additional eq ng..
Nice loudness but lacks clarity
Yea, but not bad for just replacing it and messing with some gainstaging!
I'm listening in mono. That said, your chain has more grit, separation, and clarity. Perhaps I won't ditch the serial plugin chain route after all.
Yea, and I haven’t really even tweaked my master chain on this one to where I’d ship either!
@@RadiumRecordsHollywood Btw thanks for turning me back on to the vsm-3 plugin! I experimented with the black box yet seem to get better results with the aforementioned.
I think overall your mix sounds better. But if someone is a budget producer they might look at the cost of all the plugins you used vs. just the cost of the GMP. I'd say as far as the bang for your buck aspect goes, the GMP is pretty dope.
pretty dope plugin just bought it and worth the price!
It's super dope. Well worth it
Your mix on this is too amazing 🤦🏽♂️ TGP is good too but yours was super clean
Yo! Thanks!
I think a major thing when using tgp is mixing into from scratch.
In this example you have already started to mixing into your mastering chain.
Agreed.
Wat I think Is God particle sounds fantastic ...
I think it's super good for a one plugin chain!
@@RadiumRecordsHollywood if the mix is well balanced then it's good to go.. otherwise there should b more control on eq is needed.
yours win ♥♥♥
I like the results of your mastering chain a lot more. I felt as soon as you switched to the God Particle the vocal low mids seemed pushed too much, making them sound too processed, and cluttering their frequencies up too much with some of the percussion. I much prefer the more open sound of your master.
The key is to " mix into it jaycen says
Yes.
i like your mastering chain better. it has more clarity in mid rage.
Yeah separation - yours wins for sure that but honestly after you made a few adjustments it was close in my ear canals. Good stuff
Not bad at all for just one Plug! I'm hyped on it... Definitely be experimenting a bit more
@@RadiumRecordsHollywood I couldn't sleep last night thinking about how much separation YOUR mix had and why it sounded so much cleaner AFTER your master process not the god particle master (did you do the mix as well) - the only thing I could come up with is the way you apply mid-side eqing on the master. I was gonna ask you how then I saw you have a master class for 19 bucks, really? I want masters that sound like yours ... at least knowledge that gets me closer. Gonna sign up and see if you give the goods or hold back ;O)
@@PaulRamos-Entrepreneur I did mix the record as well! But I've been mastering for well over 15 years... I HIGHLY recommend the Mastering masterclass I've put out... You can grab it here: radiummediamusic.com/offer-1-mastering
@@RadiumRecordsHollywood Do you have a way to pay for this via PayPal?
@@PaulRamos-Entrepreneur Sure! You can use paypal here: www.radium-records.com/offers/qkAazxPi
I'm new to alot of things and honestly don't know what to listen for I'm beyond discouraged
Louder. But it has a limiter to fix that.
Same problem as other demos I’ve seen.. Nobody can get enough high end information to make the box light up.lol 🤷 Yours sounds better and STILL sounds organic
I don’t think that’s a good idea with this plugin… If you really pushed that much high end into it, it would blow your ears out
Am I the only one who seen him using ozone with like 30 other plugins u have a god pc bro😂🔥🔥🔥
Yea, definitely gotta have a beast computer for professional mixing and mastering…
First off I really like your mastering chain but the value the GP brings in 1 plugin I think makes it better, I feel like incorporating it in with plugins that are more adjustable will maximize the the quality of whatever you put it on
But it’s not a mastering plugin.. you still have to have it mastered with out the limiter of course. He uses it more of a mixing into tool and makes decisions based on the TGP. But it still sounds good compared to a proper Mastered song. Thanks for the video🙂
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You had my subscription the second you said “I don’t give a s#!t! No one gives a s#!T! 🤣 thank you!
Haha! Love it. Real talk always wins.
ORIGINAL MASTER 9:28
GOD PARTICULAR MASTER @9:46
this guy used it wrong , your suppose to mix into it on the mix bus , it's not meant to replace a whole master chain.
@@24Jaykid We get it Joe! 😂
Thanks for the tags!
@@24Jaykid My name's Bradley btw... Nice to meet you, Joe.
@@RadiumRecordsHollywood Lmao Nice to Meet you Bradley ! I'm a student of your mix academy I join yesterday , this video made me buy your master course.
Even Jaycen said that is not for mastering, it is for use on the master on mixing stage! So what's the point to compare it to whatever you use on mastering?
Because mastering is the final stage for a song to be released to whatever distribution platform you chose… Even Jaycen says his masters have been distributed, which makes it tor mastering.
@@RadiumRecordsHollywood God Particle is to use on the master bus on the mixing stage, that is what Jaycen said is the use for his plugin.
@@RadiumRecordsHollywood My first comment was very clear, no point to make a fool of yourself by being rude to a follower. Of course you can use it whatever you want, just not making sense.
@@MarquesRomeu Where was I being rude?!
God particle muddier in 300-500 and sort of too pushed together than your chain. But very useful for someone who has no idea what they’re doing imo
Your mix sounds more thicker and louder. The Particle slightly thinner and a little clinical. More time spent on this Particle plugin I imagine would be good. It sounds an it has potential.
i think this plugin with the fresh air plugin by slate audio will be the perfect cheat code for beat makers...maybe not engineers...but to get a good beat mix out...fire!!!
Would be a quick way to get shit done!
I’ve been doing the same thing with the Brainworx Maag 4 EQ air band with god particle for insanely fast masters to send out beats to artists
Your Chain sound way better, but also, you mixing decisions were made thru yours!
That's FACTS! But I had to do the comparison just to see what we're dealing with here... :)
The God particle is designed to mix into… the default is Jaycens sound
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@@RadiumRecordsHollywood cheers brother
Good work
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@@Roses_R_redeR Dope! Love it!
Your master is brighter., not worse than GP. Prefer yours actually.
thats not a mastering chain replacement bro thats for mixing nothing did a decent drive and pre amp cant do ,thats the problem whit that plug in you cant get separation but it can replace other tools on the mix bus
The God Particle was cleaner
sounds good but your master had a lot more weight tbh
More weight, depth, separation... I could go on! haha
Original Master is the one
Yea, I agree! But this plugin is super musical
@@RadiumRecordsHollywood what gives best quality when mastering samples or vsts.
"nobody cares about level difference" Yes, you should care if we are doing an A/B comparison... nobody cares when you already know what it does and don't care about the volume raise (and use it to your advantage).. but for a serious comparison... YOU MUST GAIN MATCH. Otherwise, louder = better, always, even if you put a piece of sh*t of a plugin.
Haha. Word.
Yours definitely sound better....
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LMAO. I got you.
Your mastering chain was like 10x better lol.
Yo! Appreciate that