Never heard of a dry flake gun before but it definitely looks like a really great alternative for me whenever I'm asked to do a flake or heavy metallic finish for one of my guitars. I usually groan inwardly when a customer wants flake/metallics as I just know how much of a pain in the hole it is when it comes to cleaning the gun and pots out after. Keeping the flake separate from my clear gun sounds like a gamechanger for me. Thanks for this clip!
Hi Tony I have a old ranger bass boat and the metal flake is faded and and in a lot of places down to the base flat color with no flakes over it . Does the gun you are using have a size of metal flake setting ? The flakes I have are 0.4 mm .
I justvstarted using an architectural coating that is very expensive,.(so I try not to make ANY MISTAKES)I use a 1.2 mm tip,.. no base coat, as the primer is epoxy,. but the topcoat is a 3 part,.. the paint dries rather fast,. and than its baked at 180⁰ ,do u have any tips to get a wet coat,without any of these miniscule flakes sagging,.. all metal is hung vertically,.. i tried to do multiple coats, low fluid,high air,.. a few came out great,.. but they reccomend applying 2wet coats,.. which DONT WORK due to sagging ,.. any tips on how to dial this in correctly, so I get no orange peel,or sagging,.. or any suggestions on how to adjust reducer with different temperatures,.. some days are dry,nice,.. others hot and sticky,. and sometimes 100% humidity . im a pretty good hvlp sprayer,.. but the booth,and fine flake architectural coating is all new to me
I tried it your way with using the clear coat to shoot the flakes into. It used a lot of flakes to cover one guitar and made a huge mess. I wonder if using the flake king binder (fk 50 I think) would make things go better. The guitar is looking great, though!
Hi I live in Kenya. I am not sure if we can get the dry flakes in different colours here But if possible where can I get the dry or wet flakes from abroad
Bro thank you so much for posting this i ordered a complete flake king kit i have ben spraying flake in my clear and its a pain to clean up. It was a bit expensive being over 200 dollars but its definitely better than cleaning stuck flake on the floor 🤣
Hey Tony I have been searching for weeks for this color. Is it a straight metal flake clear coat? Black or gold base coat. I'm new to airbrushing and learning so much. Thank you. Where can I get this color. All tropical flake or no?
Hi what lacquer do you use for the flake I currently use quartz liquid glass but am finding it dose not like to be applied heavy and I get bad solvent pop also trying flow coat and get solvent pop every time I try it pmp supplies said you was the best one to ask and maybe recommend something they do. Thanks Jon
Jon Taylor ho Jon you want a cheaper ms clear to put the initial build on woth to cover the flake then let it dry sand it back and flow coat it with a uhs clear , uhs clears done like to be applied really heavy mate , kronox 610 is good as a uhs clear but again one fine coat one wet coat don’t overload it
@@TonysRefinishingTV ok thanks for that out of the robelo and quartz which is best in your opinion and also would you use the ms clear if your going to flow coat any job or ms just for the flake. Thanks for the reply
That’s a great video, thanks for posting. The timing is perfect as I’m just waiting delivery of the airbrush version of the Flake King. I’m only a hobbiest so I think it’ll be big enough for my needs. I’ve now subbed and will be checking out your other videos.
I've never used metal flake dry, what is like dry for a full respray,? For the stock car racing.? Usually the primer gun with binder or clear and flake, pressure up a bit .Gun an Extra 25mm back, go for even coats, then clear coat lacquer, ¾ coat then full coat.. Bake, Sand, Flo Coat or stock car ¾ coat 2 full coats Bake.... done
What an awesome job! I want to get into painting so bad. I’m obsessed with heavy metal flake I’d love to paint my Harley with it. I need to get a list together for guns and paint and such. Gonna have some time on my hands with this quarantine nonsense lol
Colored flake on colored paint is a fave. Been learning much about various sorts. Want to learn more b4 i go purchasing a bunch of equipment and destroying it on a couple of gas tanks.
What's the largest size metal flake you can use with this Flake King gun? I want to use a monster flake (0.25 particle size), but there is no information on the product page regarding max flake size. Thanks in advance.
Hey Tony, hope things are improving for you since our last chat, I know this is an old vid but wanted to ask about the flow coat, looked like you gave it one light coat then two heavier ones, is this the norm for you when flow coating, I just do the same as when clearing over base, with the 610 I give it two good coats then the same when flow coating, anyway great finish maybe one day I'll get something close to that!
thanks fella, with flow coats as in the name the clear flows alot faster so somtimes going really wet on the first coat can run so one light coat as a grip coat then smash it on its just a safer way to do it
Ok thanks Tony, with the flow coat I don't have any problems giving it a good wet first coat but sometimes get a run in the second coat, is this because the first isn't cured and having the first coat to wet?
@@JohnWD40TC02 its the age old problem of physics mate tbh gravity lol. so you do teo wet coats to close together ie before the second has flashed off enough and then you have one thick wet layer that can move, the weight of the second coat combined with the first still to wet coat will run gravitys a bitch , so i always say the more coats you add the longer you leave it between each to give each more time than the last to flash off as it builds in thickness. hence i always try to teach in my courses more finer coats over a longer time so say 15 mins between coats, is better than two heavier coats back to back, same result just in a safer more controlled way
Love your videos. I learned a few things here. This is more my size of project. I build and spray guitars, as a weekend warrior. Not pro. Some conventional wood or auto finishes, and some wilder stuff like candies, chromes, colour-shifting paints, etc. I'd love to see anything involving these sort of finishes. My limitation is about 6 CFMs from a woodshop compressor. So your guns don't mean much to me. I need to use LVLP or touch-up guns. Oh well. Thanks for the 'training' Tony. Much appreciated.
Hey buddy thanks for the comment mate always nice to see new people here too so welcome , we will be going into a lot more things over the year and some custom stuff will be on the cards too fella so hope you stick around for those
Hi just seen video this is awsome how big of flake can u shoot threw this gun i want to do my bass boat will it shoot big flake ? And can u shoot it with gel coat?
@@TonysRefinishingTV ty so much if i shoot big flake out of it do i have 2 get a bigger tip or the one it comes with will shoot it . i mean big flake i looked gun up its a awsome price . iam getting one just need to know if i need to buy bigger tip with it . thank you for ur time .
@@TonysRefinishingTV tony why iam asking is bug daddy ross has crazy flake its very big i want to shoot big flake on my bass boat . thank you so much for showing . me this gun its so awsome not having to mix love thw dry app. Shoot base down pray flake and cover with clear gel right ?
Fakes are very expensive I guess that's why they do not spray dry but the skateboard came out nice that way it had a lot of fakes and looked very nice good demonstration thank you.
Hi guys looking at man with a skill here , Great results m8! Can someone please recommend a body shop in Poole or Bournemouth ( Dorset) I had my R class 792 Color door repaired twice already and is stand out like a sore thumb! How to tell who’s good at this besides everyone saying their job is best in town, confusing. Apologies if a bit off topic . Thanks in advance.
Hi buddy and welcome to the channel mate and on our topic mate pretty much all questions are valid , as for finding out who is and isn’t actually good that’s a hard thing tbh my best advice would be maybe to joint the godbehingthegun group on Facebook and ask about in there as there are a lot of really good painters and shop owners in the group and hopefully someone in your area mate
Tonys_Refinishing Thanks Tony I’ll give a shoutout on the forum, my be lucky this time :-) keep a good work. I already bought compressor and that cheap HVLP gun, gonna start shooting lying bastards 🤣.
Not enough clear over then and cheap flakes usually , if you sand to the point your sanding the flakes then it will take the colour off the flakes if there cheap flakes so something nice looking will all end up looking silver
Great Job on the green flake board. Absolutely stunning. I'd definitely like to put my name in the hat if your giving it away. My son would go Ape shit for that for Christmas. Thanks Mate.
Pretty cool but, you do realize that the entire surface you painted will be covered with grip tape don’t you? None of that beautiful green metal flake will show, except for along the edge of the board.
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Never heard of a dry flake gun before but it definitely looks like a really great alternative for me whenever I'm asked to do a flake or heavy metallic finish for one of my guitars. I usually groan inwardly when a customer wants flake/metallics as I just know how much of a pain in the hole it is when it comes to cleaning the gun and pots out after. Keeping the flake separate from my clear gun sounds like a gamechanger for me. Thanks for this clip!
There good for small stuff like that mate yeah but no good for something car size ect
How soon after do you apply the dry flake? what is your preferred wait time or just shoot right away after applying a clear coat?
4 years later, I'm watching this because I want to dry flake my car with black glitter. Thanks! Good explaination!
Beautiful .! Y'all make it look so easy . A nice booth n equipment with plenty of room makes a huge difference , my little garage is a chore .
Thanks thomas and yes having the right kit does make this job easier
Wow 🤩 that looks beautiful! Nice job and thanks for sharing!
Looks awesome, nice technique with the layers. Thanks for sharing!
No worries john
Hi Tony I have a old ranger bass boat and the metal flake is faded and and in a lot of places down to the base flat color with no flakes over it . Does the gun you are using have a size of metal flake setting ? The flakes I have are 0.4 mm .
I justvstarted using an architectural coating that is very expensive,.(so I try not to make ANY MISTAKES)I use a 1.2 mm tip,.. no base coat, as the primer is epoxy,. but the topcoat is a 3 part,.. the paint dries rather fast,. and than its baked at 180⁰ ,do u have any tips to get a wet coat,without any of these miniscule flakes sagging,.. all metal is hung vertically,.. i tried to do multiple coats, low fluid,high air,.. a few came out great,.. but they reccomend applying 2wet coats,.. which DONT WORK due to sagging ,.. any tips on how to dial this in correctly, so I get no orange peel,or sagging,.. or any suggestions on how to adjust reducer with different temperatures,.. some days are dry,nice,.. others hot and sticky,. and sometimes 100% humidity . im a pretty good hvlp sprayer,.. but the booth,and fine flake architectural coating is all new to me
I tried it your way with using the clear coat to shoot the flakes into. It used a lot of flakes to cover one guitar and made a huge mess. I wonder if using the flake king binder (fk 50 I think) would make things go better. The guitar is looking great, though!
Hi I live in Kenya.
I am not sure if we can get the dry flakes in different colours here
But if possible where can I get the dry or wet flakes from abroad
What psi are you just spraying the clear at? Does it change when spraying the flake already mixed in?
No I’d keep the psi the same so it’s got a nice even fan mate and most guns I run at 2.0 bar 30 psi for clear
Bro thank you so much for posting this i ordered a complete flake king kit i have ben spraying flake in my clear and its a pain to clean up. It was a bit expensive being over 200 dollars but its definitely better than cleaning stuck flake on the floor 🤣
Hi Tony lovely job you've done again, do you still use the quartz lacquer or do you prefer the roberlo?
Honestly I’m preferring the roberlo atm mate bakes a lot faster than the liquid glass and polishable straight from bake
Hey Tony I have been searching for weeks for this color. Is it a straight metal flake clear coat? Black or gold base coat. I'm new to airbrushing and learning so much. Thank you. Where can I get this color. All tropical flake or no?
Searching for years aye?
Is it ok to apply metallic flakes and flow coat the doors and bumpers off the car ?
Ideally when it comes to flake you’d want to flake everything at the same time and if you can all in one piece so the lay down is perfectly even
@@TonysRefinishingTV ok bro thanks for the advice
Nice job, what clear/reducer did you use that let you smash it on without solvent pop? What kinda temps in your booth? Anyway great job!
Biggest thing for not getting solvent pop was no thinners and not baking it mate I used kronox 610 for the first and second stage and left to airdry
Hi what lacquer do you use for the flake I currently use quartz liquid glass but am finding it dose not like to be applied heavy and I get bad solvent pop also trying flow coat and get solvent pop every time I try it pmp supplies said you was the best one to ask and maybe recommend something they do.
Thanks
Jon
Jon Taylor ho Jon you want a cheaper ms clear to put the initial build on woth to cover the flake then let it dry sand it back and flow coat it with a uhs clear , uhs clears done like to be applied really heavy mate , kronox 610 is good as a uhs clear but again one fine coat one wet coat don’t overload it
@@TonysRefinishingTV ok thanks for that out of the robelo and quartz which is best in your opinion and also would you use the ms clear if your going to flow coat any job or ms just for the flake.
Thanks for the reply
Just use the ms clear mate to cover the flake not flow coat use a decent clear for a flow coat , personally I find the 610 more user friendly yes mate
Hey pal I have my joyner 650 buggy and interested in having it resprayed in flack gold will it look good after
Can’t really say tbh mate wether it would look good or not I dunno
What an amazing finish...if I had that board I’d be proudly displaying that on my wall...great colour too!
Well we’ve not finished with it yet mate so it’ll only get better before we give it away
They board in liverpool?
That’s a great video, thanks for posting. The timing is perfect as I’m just waiting delivery of the airbrush version of the Flake King. I’m only a hobbiest so I think it’ll be big enough for my needs. I’ve now subbed and will be checking out your other videos.
Hi simon thanks and welcome to the channel
That's great Tony! If you were to add further graphics to that, say some airbrush artwork? Would you apply before your final flow coat or after?
before mate ideally then you can flow coat over the graphics artwork ect and seal it all in nice
Wow what a great system and I love the finished article looks amazing . I think it would make an awesome giveaway so that’s a great idea !!
its on the cards for a giveaway thats for sure i think we will do some more work to it then do the giveaway
Cheers Tony, painting my bike panels and not sure whether to use wet method flake gun. Looks better finish with the flake gun so I might buy one.
They are good mate
What color green is that.
I've never used metal flake dry,
what is like dry for a full respray,?
For the stock car racing.?
Usually the primer gun with binder or clear and flake, pressure up a bit .Gun an Extra 25mm back, go for even coats, then clear coat lacquer, ¾ coat then full coat.. Bake, Sand, Flo Coat or stock car ¾ coat 2 full coats Bake.... done
What an awesome job! I want to get into painting so bad. I’m obsessed with heavy metal flake I’d love to paint my Harley with it. I need to get a list together for guns and paint and such. Gonna have some time on my hands with this quarantine nonsense lol
lol havent we all mate
Colored flake on colored paint is a fave. Been learning much about various sorts. Want to learn more b4 i go purchasing a bunch of equipment and destroying it on a couple of gas tanks.
Lol always best to do your research and some spray outs too fella
What's the largest size metal flake you can use with this Flake King gun? I want to use a monster flake (0.25 particle size), but there is no information on the product page regarding max flake size. Thanks in advance.
Any answers ?
Should have left it gritty for grip, it is for standing on yeah! Nice job lets hope he dont slip of with the lovely polished finish
lol its a show board not for use
Hey Tony, hope things are improving for you since our last chat, I know this is an old vid but wanted to ask about the flow coat, looked like you gave it one light coat then two heavier ones, is this the norm for you when flow coating, I just do the same as when clearing over base, with the 610 I give it two good coats then the same when flow coating, anyway great finish maybe one day I'll get something close to that!
thanks fella, with flow coats as in the name the clear flows alot faster so somtimes going really wet on the first coat can run so one light coat as a grip coat then smash it on its just a safer way to do it
Ok thanks Tony, with the flow coat I don't have any problems giving it a good wet first coat but sometimes get a run in the second coat, is this because the first isn't cured and having the first coat to wet?
@@JohnWD40TC02 its the age old problem of physics mate tbh gravity lol. so you do teo wet coats to close together ie before the second has flashed off enough and then you have one thick wet layer that can move, the weight of the second coat combined with the first still to wet coat will run gravitys a bitch , so i always say the more coats you add the longer you leave it between each to give each more time than the last to flash off as it builds in thickness. hence i always try to teach in my courses more finer coats over a longer time so say 15 mins between coats, is better than two heavier coats back to back, same result just in a safer more controlled way
Ok so what idiot invented gravity, what I need is a anti-gravity gun 😁 yeah its obvious when you think about it, thanks for the help Tony 👍
Love your videos. I learned a few things here. This is more my size of project. I build and spray guitars, as a weekend warrior. Not pro. Some conventional wood or auto finishes, and some wilder stuff like candies, chromes, colour-shifting paints, etc. I'd love to see anything involving these sort of finishes.
My limitation is about 6 CFMs from a woodshop compressor. So your guns don't mean much to me. I need to use LVLP or touch-up guns. Oh well. Thanks for the 'training' Tony. Much appreciated.
Hey buddy thanks for the comment mate always nice to see new people here too so welcome , we will be going into a lot more things over the year and some custom stuff will be on the cards too fella so hope you stick around for those
what size is this flake? thanks!
That job looks beautiful yeser
Thanks
Hi just seen video this is awsome how big of flake can u shoot threw this gun i want to do my bass boat will it shoot big flake ? And can u shoot it with gel coat?
Yes it’ll shoot any size flake mate but you can’t put anything liquid into this gun
@@TonysRefinishingTV ty so much if i shoot big flake out of it do i have 2 get a bigger tip or the one it comes with will shoot it . i mean big flake i looked gun up its a awsome price . iam getting one just need to know if i need to buy bigger tip with it . thank you for ur time .
They come with a few tips mate so you should have. No problem mate I’ve tried it with alsorts tbh
@@TonysRefinishingTV tony why iam asking is bug daddy ross has crazy flake its very big i want to shoot big flake on my bass boat . thank you so much for showing . me this gun its so awsome not having to mix love thw dry app. Shoot base down pray flake and cover with clear gel right ?
@@TonysRefinishingTV ok i just sewn this thank you so much tony have a great day . have a great new years stay safe buddy .
Where to buy metal flakes?
these were from www.tropicalglitz.net/ every tub sold helps to raise money for the owners suns treatment too
Doesn't this way uses a lot more material blowing it everywhere and blowing loose flakes off before coating again?
Just a question, what size jars does it take?
Not 100% sure what size they are mate I’d say they would hold around 300ml of flake
What color is that an what brand flake
How do I get one in the USA? I don't see any shipping options?
Maple Airbrush Supplies in Canada sells them and ships to US
Great video😊
How large are the flakes in this video?
Err now your asking lol , not a large size mate there only fine
@@TonysRefinishingTV
That i can see :)
Thats beautiful imve been practicing i did my wifes car came out nice need a better gun but made it work
Yes would be nice to have in my garage
Nice job, I tried the wet application and it worked but not very well but I am a diy er, il have a loom at the dry flake gun :)
well worth a look mate and tbh wet on wet is probably best in a booth environment tbh
Thanks , very informative for me, a beginer
Your welcome
I saw one guy he shot the dry from 1 direction/Angle, then used air to try and blow the flake flat. I have no idea but it makes some sense
Amazing mate ... Incredible work as always buddy ... A giveaway of a ws400 iawata would be amazing mate 🇬🇧🏁😁
Haha maybe one day mate
A give away is always nice.
that's a class finish.
Thanks Philip
Definitely should be a give away would look awesome in my shop office 😁😁 Anyway great work Tony.
Lol giveaway it is then and thanks 🙏
Looks awesome mate
thanks man
Thanks for the video, very helpful 👍🏼
Your welcome Stuart
The dry flake looks Omazing.
Thanks Dennis
hey tony, always up for a give away, great vid as usual and please keep em coming
Thanks man and I will do fella nice to see you here again too brother 👊
This is so fn cool. Ahhhh guess I’m buying a flake gun.
Thanks for the video on the flake
no problem at all
Fakes are very expensive I guess that's why they do not spray dry but the skateboard came out nice that way it had a lot of fakes and looked very nice good demonstration thank you.
Your welcome
I would love my jag sprayed that colour ! Wouldn’t that look sweet 👍 hmmm ....now there’s a thought 🤔
Lol 😂
Hi guys looking at man with a skill here , Great results m8!
Can someone please recommend a body shop in Poole or Bournemouth ( Dorset) I had my R class 792 Color door repaired twice already and is stand out like a sore thumb! How to tell who’s good at this besides everyone saying their job is best in town, confusing. Apologies if a bit off topic . Thanks in advance.
Hi buddy and welcome to the channel mate and on our topic mate pretty much all questions are valid , as for finding out who is and isn’t actually good that’s a hard thing tbh my best advice would be maybe to joint the godbehingthegun group on Facebook and ask about in there as there are a lot of really good painters and shop owners in the group and hopefully someone in your area mate
Tonys_Refinishing Thanks Tony I’ll give a shoutout on the forum, my be lucky this time :-) keep a good work. I already bought compressor and that cheap HVLP gun, gonna start shooting lying bastards 🤣.
I would love to have for my daughter
When I sanded my Flakes some of them Turned Silver, Why's that's?
Not enough clear over then and cheap flakes usually , if you sand to the point your sanding the flakes then it will take the colour off the flakes if there cheap flakes so something nice looking will all end up looking silver
@@TonysRefinishingTV ok that's what I thought Cheap Flakes lol, Also spraying some Candy on top some of them turn black, thank you great job
No problem at all glad I could help mate stay safe
@@TonysRefinishingTV thank you, I just Subscribe
Thanks fella appreciate the sub too man
winder if a guy could make one of those out of a normal hvlp or siphon feed gun
Great video and review. Thanks
Thanks fella
i would love to have it but i do cars and taxies std also. cant have that dry flake everywhere lol
Super instruction. Fuck the skateboard, you should have a give-away for the flake gun.
lol i may do it for both yet watch this space
Wow that is awsome
thanks fella
Definitely a give away!!!
Lol giveaway it is then
Great Job on the green flake board. Absolutely stunning. I'd definitely like to put my name in the hat if your giving it away. My son would go Ape shit for that for Christmas. Thanks Mate.
Thanks man unfortunately the giveaway was earlier in the year buddy
Philipines here...
$5 backing pad?
what do you mean mate
Super👏🏻
Thanks
Sort of works like a powder coat gun without the electrostatics.
Pretty much
Shame if it actually gets used it'll need grip tape over that stunning finish!! Id keep it as an example of your work to customers
nah man its just going to be a show peice
I like your video very nice job sir
Can you help me
Fancy painting my guitar?
willton van nostrum lol my emails on the video description mate if you want any work done
Pretty cool but, you do realize that the entire surface you painted will be covered with grip tape don’t you? None of that beautiful green metal flake will show, except for along the edge of the board.
If you check out my newer videos we had it airbrushed and have it away
shame to put grip tape on that
How do you mean?
Great video again Tony would be a great giveaway
thanks man
NOT A FAN OF THE DRY APPLICATION
Jaymes me either put in clear coat
WASTE OF MATERIAL BLOTCHING AREAS ..UGGGH. SOMEONE INVENT A METAL FLAKE VACUUM !!!!
hell yes do a give away.