So true, there is a lot of crap talked in hifi, and burning in cables is as you say, a bit of metal. It’s sad that some people play music to listen to the hifi system and not the music.
I say buy Mogami and Canare. They use it to wire up recording studios. So if it’s good enough to record music, it’s good enough to listen to music. And it costs bugger all next to audiophile cable.
Decent quality copper (which most cables have) and decent shielding is all it takes for an interconnect to be of sufficient quality. There can be slightly more quality difference between speakers cables, as there's much higher currents moving through those, but again, there are extreme diminishing returns. Decent quality copper of sufficient gauge, and you're good. And I'm not going to claim that there's absolutely nothing to be gained from going with specific types of cables etc, but the differences are so small that your ears are likely to be a much more limiting factor. It's worth keeping in mind, that having multiple cables running behind a hi-fi rack or something, including power cables, is a source of noise, and it's why the skinny (unshielded) black "freebies" that come with cheap cd-players or similar can often sound somewhat less good, and it's helped hi-fi stores sell expensive cables for decades.
The main advantage of copper is not only its conductivity, but also its flexibility. A good quality copper cable will last a long time. This is especially important today, where you stumble across CCA or CCS everywhere in all kinds of wires. For example, take cheap ATX power supplies and cables and hold a magnet close. I have several that obviously have significant iron content in their wires. Cheap rolls of transparent speaker cables from the hardware store that look like copper? You bet they're CCA. Cheap Dupont wire sets for Arduino etc.? They're CCA, and once soldered, they break off faster as you can look. You immediately notice CCA because individual strands are surprisingly stiff and break easily. I'd not be surprised to find CCA even in Chinch cables where flexibility is necessary.
Absolutely correct. I've been in the Audiophile "business" for more years than I care to admit. High end cables are a marketing invention. We routinely did double-blind tests of cables varying in "quality" from whatever came with the component to $2500 cables. No one ever consistently identified any cable as sounding better. As far as sound quality, It's a myth. I will admit that high end cables are prettier. ;)
But there is actually a difference with Silver plated cables… Saw and heared it in two Videos, it’s supposed to be a bit clearer an sharper at the higher end
I think for short RCA cables, it doesn’t matter even if cheap lower grade metal is used. Inside an electric guitar, super thin cheap wires are used even in expensive guitars and the audio signal is still massive. ….Cable quality is usually an issue if you’re running very long lengths but most people are not running long lengths
When you just spent 10.000 Euro / Pounds or Dollars on a cable you WANT to en WILL hear a difference. Even if there would be slight measurable differences, the question is whether our old ears can actually hear detect it them in these frequency ranges.
Anything over 10m you will hear the difference between single end,or semi balanced RCA it's only long runs that balanced XLR make a difference,that's why pro audio use balanced XLR,if you have a run of 3m for example you will not hear a difference.
Great video! Many years ago I help install a Focal Grand Utopia/McIntosh system, and we asked we did much the same test with speaker and RCA, and the customer admitted they couldn't tell the difference … but went with the higher priced cables anyway. What can you do? Some people love throwing their money down the drain!
The 3rca cable was probably twice the length. Additionally, the shape of a loose cable alone increases interference due to the angles of the wire vs the angles of the interference sources. A short cable always performs better. Expensive cables also increase repair profit because they destroy ports by weight and stress when moving racks, cleaning, hitting the wall, getting stressed to reach devices, etc.
that"s what i do for 30+ foot runs of unbalanced audio. with balanced audio shielded cat6 is what even the highest end recording studios use to transport analogue audio 100+ feet.
Thanks so much for this comprehensive testing and analysis. I was about to go buy a pile of overpriced cables - which has always bothered me - when I found your channel. I’d buy you a beer if you were in California, but the best I can do instead is subscribe. Done!.
For God's sake, use your own ear first. Approach a reputable company that's willing to offer you a loan pair with no obligation to buy. Use your own ears and if you hear a clear and cognitive difference, chances are it's not a placebo effect, nor wishful thinking, as you would not have purchased the cable yet. If you don't feel the need to dig deep into your pockets after listening; if you think you hear a difference but you're not really sure, return the cables, get the cheapest interconnect you can find, and rest in peace. You think this guy's doing you a service by creating this video? You're doing yourself a disservice by taking his word and not listening for yourself. I have transformed my system with cable alone. It's not a placebo effect; it's not wishful thinking; it's not confirmation bias. It is the simple truth. Having said this, you should only look at cables once you have a solid system. You cannot polish a turd. A good cable can only bring out what your system has to offer. First make sure it has something to offer. Keep an open mind and be willing to experiment.
I use "cheap" cables from Thomann called the sssnake SRR. They have a spring strain relief, thick but flexible outer and good metal connectors and shielding at 6 euros for a single cable. I honestly can't hear the difference when it's line level signal.
IMO if you record the signal and play in-phase and phase-inverted signal together, there are interaction between these two inputs. They react to each other and got some summing error. That's why they don't completely canceled out.
Just A/B tested an Audio Quest Big Sur with a Amazon Basic interconnect cable. When playing DSD files the differnce is obvious. For CD files I couldn't hear real differences.
@@KITR-UK I can still return the AQ cable if I feel it's snakeoil. Connected both cables from the same DAC to the same amp, and play Vavaldi's four seaons, AQ gives way more details and dynamic. I don't believe different USB cables make any differences, but analog cables surely do.
@@jefflee8102 I agree, but I also think the quality of the equipment plays a big role for you to be able to hear a sound improvement with more expensive cables. And, it's a matter of synergies.
I’m trying to eliminate a hum from my new turntable. I think I have a solid ground from the table to the amp. Amp is new and good quality. No hum from other sources. The rca cable I’m using is cheap one from Walmart. When I hold the cable the him gets louder. Should I get a better quality cable-better shielding?
You can test if there were errors in your recording process. Record twice the same track with same cable. If the two recording cancel out each other, there’s a difference in cable. If they don’t, there’s an error in your recording process.
The first piece of advice should be to avoid interference. For example, "isolate" your cable by changing its position. A few months ago I replaced the old cable with a Big Sur (RCA) and it was a major difference. However, two years ago I tried a similar expensive cable on another audio configuration and I did not feel any difference.
i just bought the same cable. connected to a dj mixer. while it sounds clearer. i got a migraine in 5 mins. extremey treble. 20 euro xlr to rca sounds better. but now im confused. lol
It's subjective. Those graphs can't tell you if you'll like the sound. They showed 100 dog hip X-rays. They asked them which were crippled and which ones were fine based on X-ray. On 25 percent were correct. .
I worken in the Power cable industry for Prysmian, Pirelli and they have 200 factories in 120 countries making 60% of ALL CABLES WORLDWIDE. Cardas , Monster, and 100 other brands DONT HAVE CABLE FACTORIES. they get to the big companies talk to sales people and work out what they want and get it made,, Get their name printed on it and it goes from $60 a metre to $1000 a metre,, ITS A COMPLETE RIP OFF.
When switching on the bedroom TV, I could hear the signal even before the soundbar came on. Managed to make it up to 80% quieter with an entry-level HDMI shielded cable. However, being extremely sensitive to this particular type of noise, and after putting up with it for over 6 months, I ended up purchasing its stable mate flagship cable. Now, the faint background signal noise has totally disappeared 🥳 Conclusion; many different forms of shielding!
In the seventies, Sansui supplied the same cables with all its devices, the same as these 2 euro ones today, the power cable was fixed. Acoustic Research recommended a night lamp cable for their top model AR9. What has changed since then except the greed of the cable manufacturers?
"AudioQuest Wind Cable Listening Test I hooked up my RME ADI-2 FS DAC V2 to a Topping A90 high-performance headphone amplifier alternatively using the Audioquest Wind and Generic able. The output of the A90 drove my Ether CX headphone. I could not detect a difference between the two in this limited testing. Mind you, there was more air when listening to the Wind. But then my wife who was in the kitchen informed me that the dogs had left the patio door open and whether I was OK if she closed it. Once she did, the air factor disappeared." Source: Audio Science Review
It's a good reason to have balanced audio cables. In this case the bulk eraser would have made no difference. I upgraded my rca to rca from turntable to preamp (I managed to get the interconnects for free) and it made a big difference on a crap speaker system. Yes I agree some times there is no point in spending silly money on cables. This is when extra money spent really makes no difference. Back in the day the IBA now ofcom had very high standards for signal paths in Radio Stations if the test failed then the station could not go on air. It was a way to keep access to radio for people who had lots of money (audiophiles).
Good test. The most important takeaway here is that the thin red/white RCA cables that are included for free in many electronics are dogshit and should be replaced ASAP. I know you didn't hear a difference, but you used a 6ft cable, and interference matters more at longer lengths. I replaced my cheap 15ft red/white cable with a one made of double-shielded 18AWG solid coaxial wire for £40 and it made a huge difference. Tweeters no longer hissed. But you certainly don't need a £1000 silver cable at all.
And again this proofs that there isn’t any difference between expensive and cheap cables. It’s all about plain electronic knowledge, it doesn’t make any difference as long as you don’t need cables that are longer than 5 meters, maybe than you need a slightly thicker gauge.
From an objective point of view, the sources and their connections are always flawless compared to the speakers of any cost, like 1000x better. On any system, any extra money should be spent of the speakers and amps that can support them.
For speakers all that matters is sufficient thickness ie low enough impedance for length. Lamp cord is as good as $1500 cables. You buy fancy cables because you are credulous, or have money to burn, or have a need for the looks. Anyone who wants to know the real deal will look to TH-cam channel Audio Science Review, where Amir does high end scientific testing on all cables, backed up by blind listening tests, that confirm for instance that Amazon Basics RCA cables work and sound just as good as the most expensive products you can buy.
I'm maybe not the intended target audience of this video, yet it managed to hold my attention till the end and make me genuinely laugh out loud. Great video, loved the humor. The tune at 9:00 is extremely familiar, where is that from (a classic Trance track maybe)?
@@KITR-UK Gotcha. I must have heard an old trance version of it at some point; namely Kai Tracid - Life Is Too Short. Thanks! th-cam.com/video/lNZUB0SmE88/w-d-xo.html
Different horses for different courses. Short cable runs well, yeah, let's say cabling can be subjective. However, if one's system also happens to integrate a multi-channel setup too. To keep the noise floor to a minimum one really needs to go with shielded cables. Unshielded cables can often act as antennas for attracting RF, and the longer the cable, the better the antenna! Probably explains why when I used to disconnect my Heights and surrounds within 10 minutes, the noise floor used to come back down to satisfactory levels. The more cables I shield, the quieter the room becomes. In fact, the last group of cables I shielded were my HDMI's and Lo behold, the room became slightly quieter yet again. When friends came around, I used to show them loud it goes. Nowadays, I prefer to press pause and show them how quiet it goes. None of them gets it, of course 😂
Great video, the author is more knowledgeable than me. I'm upgrading my audio system and considering replacing my cheap cables. I had but lost an article that explained what makes a good or bad cable. Different impeadence from source and return REQUIRES a capacitance that needs to be at a certain level. Too high causes frequency rolloff in the upper frequencies too low and the total signal degrades. at a certain point the capacitance is just right, any lower WON'T make a difference but may cause other problems. The tests in this video suggests all of these cables probably have about the same capacitance. I saw one reviewer ( to be kept nameless) compare a dirt cheap cable to a three thousand dollar snake oil ( in my opinion) cable. He tested the cables A B blind folded, and preferred B because he found the treble was too harsh in A, he felt B was warm and natural. Perhaps he should have lowered the treble when listening to A, but obviously cable B was restricting the upper frequencies, perhaps having too high a capacitance. By the way, cable B was the $3000 one.
The best cable is simply the one with the lowest series resistance, the lowest capacitance and the lowest inductance. The most serious manufacturers indicate these values; others should be avoided. Connections must be of good quality for good contact and a good hold in place. Everything else is just talk !
Just ordered a C-LINE Just to see what the fuss is all about knowing I can return it I have two sets of outputs on the back of the cd play so no swapping out the leads just switch cd to line in seconds so I'll know if it's any better will post results.
I find the title most irritating. 1) If your system is low-resolution, you will not notice much difference between any components. You can stop here. Buy the cheapest. Assuming you have a high-resolution system: 2) Some cables ARE better than others for a variety of reasons. This can be a more pleasing sound depending on one's subjective preferences, soundstage, detail resolution, attack, extended perceived frequency response and so-on. 3) Some cables are more expensive than others for a variety of reasons. This could be materials, connectors, custom hand-made vs. bulk machine, treatments like cryogenics, burn-in etc. investment in research (quite rare in my opinion) and mark-up for small quantities, mark-up for brand names, sometimes quite obscene. 4) Are the expensive cables automatically better? Certainly not! For some you pay a premium for the brand name or snake-oil mystique. 5) Are the very cheapest cables the very worst? Not automatically BUT this IS more probable because of all the corner cutting and cost cutting (eg. PVC vs. Teflon insulators) to achieve the lowest price 6) Facit: audition cables in the price range you can and just can't easily afford. I have some really expensive cables I don't like the sound of as much as ones that cost less. My most expensive interconnects ARE the best I've heard in my system (and I auditioned others I didn't buy). Bonus: Q: What is a good sound? A: One you like the most. It's subjective. Get over it. And don't think that measurements will tell you anything. You have to audition anything you're considering. Return them if you don't like them. Anecdote: I auditioned two pairs of very expensive interconnect. Both claim to be made with science - one placing marketing emphasis on the biasing of the dielectric and one placing marketing emphasis on phase coherence at all frequencies. Over many hours of listening one pair made my system more musical, coherent and enjoyable and one pair made it sound like the musicians were in different rooms reading the same sheet music but really not playing together. Maybe this latter one more accurately reflected what happened in the studio and therefore was more "true". But it made much of my music un-enjoyable. And the other pair had the opposite effect. Which was better? The pair that let me enjoy the music and not the pair that showed up recording problems. That's psychoacoustics. And yes, it's real and subjective. All the best, Rob in Switzerland.
So you acknowledge, then, that cable makes a difference, and that more expensive isn't necessarily better. I think what this guy is trying to tell you, is that they make no difference at all. Now I know that's not true, and I also know that more expensive isn't necessarily better. And yes, a good cable is going to draw out the best of what a system has to offer. And it doesn't look like the system in place has much to offer at all.
Idk this is such a grossly over debated topic. I however didn’t believe in cable jargon for a while and would just buy thicker braided cables because they looked nicer (OCD). However, recently I upgraded my system a bit more (now about 40K) and have noticed a difference from using Amazon XLR’s to trying the AQ Yukon XLR, I picked various songs I am extremely familiar with and I REALLY wanted to not hear anything difference because the thought of spending 500 on pair of cables is teeth clenching to me. However, upon listening I noticed a couple of things, the highs of certain voices were not as scratchy or ear piercing as they were with the Amazon basics. 2. The “soundstage” as they call it seemed more open and transparent? Idk. Like I said I don’t think its going to make any crappy system sound 500.00 better, it’s only going to be as good as its source and components but if you have a decent system, maybe, buy accordingly to that range. There is one thing for sure I know, the human ear has NOT been measured to it’s entirety, there are things we can hear that have yet to be measured. One thing is certain, science, is always evolving.
with the cables that short wouldnt you be picking up the interference from the other electronic or the connectors to the cables? (meaning how close was your eraser box to the rest of the equipment?)
I kept all the electronics at the same distance for every single test. So, any interference that was or wasn't picked up by the electronics during the testing should have been the same.
I'd take twisted pair or coax (read: physics) over 500 bucks worth of "shielding" any day of the week. Think of about it. If it's good enough for an oscilloscope to capture GIGAHERTZ frequencies, then it's good enough for your guitar or crappy record player. Usually the cheapo stuff is REALLY cost-reduced and has problems, so anything that isn't raw cheapo budget stuff, will basically be the same. A tiny layer of dirt on the connector will cause more problems than a premo cable will solve. Moreover, even when you GET your super audio cable connected to a machine guess what it's made out of? Simple strips of copper on a circuit board. Also every amplifier on a board adds noise regardless of cable.
People have been fooling themselves by buying crazy price cables that are pure silver & have brass connecters or alloy! Cable of the right thickness of pure copper with good shielding & copper connectors, that's it. Upgrade your speakers etc with the saved money & enjoy your music.
The difference between junk and good composite cable quality is between the $5 cables and the $25 shielded cables with decent copper. Paying hundreds or even thousands on a composite cable is ridiculous.
Gotham Gac-1 Ultra Pro is the best wire for RCA in my experience. Flexible, robust and 4 layers of shielding (what really matters in RCA). And affordable no problem.
Half a monkey for a cable that won't bend... what a nonsense! Great video. I like the studio-type cables - Mogami, Klotz, van Damme etc. - which can be custom made with decent connectors for not much dollar. I did hear a mini jack cable some years back that was a leap ahead of what I'd heard before and that was not especially pricey but did have good plugs (Switchcraft maybe?) that really snapped firmly into place, and I'm sure that helped.
Just two things to dismiss outright, 'off the bat', no measuring, no extensive listening sessions, no listening at all: 1) all courtesy cables that come in the box with normal HiFi-equipment, like a CD-player or amp (possibly not from the really expensive brands, but in general). Those are just pairs of puny super thin stranded inferior copper wire in cheap PVC insulation with a dielectric constant promoting capacitance like no tomorrow on top of the inherent resistance, more or less surrounded by a similarly thin wire for 'shielding' and as a ground wire, in turn insulated by more PVC. No need to measure, it is bound to be that bad by sheer laws of physics. Can fight the law, but the law wins. Back in the 90's I showed a friend how much his of-the-shelf HiFi 300-400 DM (Deutsche Mark back then, more or less Euro today) garbage absolutely benefitted from a modest real RCA interconnect round 25 DM, might translate to affordable 40-50 Euro today with Copper prices and all. No listening required, stuff still sounded (insert expletive here), but much, much better just for that. Even with hardware like that, get half-decent interconnects, period, full stop. 2) Nobody is going to sell me anything over, say, 1k Euro in cabling. Not interconnects, not mains, not loudspeakers; not per meter, but in general, with a little leave for longer speaker cables, mayhaps. I do not care how that measures, not a guaranty for sounding nice or seemingly better than stuff more reasonably priced. If it does not measure well for starters, well, good luck with that; not going to happen in the pricier regions, companies know that is going to be a starting point for reviews, can skip that step outside of technically heavy reviews. I personally had crossed 'Nordost' off my list of companies I am ever going to buy from *before* viewing this TH-cam cast, just (*only just and precisely for that reason*) for selling (or trying to sell) cables in the 20k+ region, or just anywhere substantially over, say, 5k (giving a tiny leeway for Audioquest, e.g.). That, firstly, is for people wanting to show off their HiFi to some rare guests, bragging how their loudspeakers had cost 50k and the rack the same on top (not slagging off high price/high quality companies, if it's worth that much to you), likely buying without thinking and never been in the process of building and improving their system over the years as cost allowed. Secondly, if a company is into that sort of bogus, I will, off the bat again, not consider their stuff in accessible price ranges to be worth anything more than their name, I assume it to be what is paying their bills to promote their overpriced whatever-it-is-they-are-actually-selling stuff. Again, measuring is all nice, but only goes so far within audible and system inherent tolerances. Good thing you highlighted whatever was going on their to be outside the human audible range, thanks for taking the trouble and a 'LIKE'. Accent is a tad hard to understand, but keep up the good work.
😀😀👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 I'll check more videos from the channel - maybe there is a test of SPDIF and TOSLINKs - there are allllllot of disagreements about those too ..... 🤔🤔 I've seen COAX-SPDIF tested by some, but on 1-2 GHz, while the highest sampling freq. is under 500 KHz. Would be nice to see all tests of DATA cables.....
Thank you for the video. If an expensive cable doesn’t scientifically better then a cheap one, and I “hear” better Audio ( placebo ) , That’s fine With me as at the end i more enjoy!
The answer to the question "do analog interconnect really matter" is simple and straightforward: yes they do. Any argument about it can be settled by a simple blind test. The claim that well-performing cables cannot pass a blind test is a myth. Also, good luck comparing cables using graphs... unless you have found a way to graph imaging, instrument separation, stage depth and width, trailing end of notes, and transients.
@@KITR-UK I worked in the sales side of the industry and we did a ton of tests while bored on slow days during the week. We definitely heard differences in cables but one thing was for certain... it had nothing to do with the price. Of course being in a showroom, we had all sorts of switchers and could swap back and forth instantly by raising a hand for a coworker to click a button. After years of messing around with all of it, we determined that the cheap-ish spool of monster cable speaker wire and $30 RCA cables were the only real investment needed for cabling. Cheap throwaway cables seemed more likely to be noisy or restrict low end and the high cost stuff didnt improve upon the entry level monster cables.
This is the same racket as always. I am a fan of MM cartridges as a vinyl enthusiast. Ok I admit my MM cartridges are around $450 a piece. But the audio snobs look down on me because I like my Ortofon 2M black and they can’t sell me a moving coil for 3 thousand dollars because in my world that expense is unnecessary. When my stylus is worn I get another stylus for about 300 dollars. If the moving coil cartridge needs to be replaced that will be $3 thousand again. This is about music people. M U S I C first. If you can enjoy it be happy. This is not supposed to be a pissing contest.
Go into a high end store and listen to 25k speakers. Near my home city is a shop that sells high and. He regulary makes listening nights where they start with cheap cables and go way up to the high end ones. There must be a reason, why his customers buy the expensive stuff afterwards. This test here makes not much sense, because his equipment is not near high end. He also does not use power filters, high end power cables etc. He also dont has a big stack of different sources like high end people have. They have way more interference. There must also be a reason why my 0,50 Cent ketchup cable sounds way worse then my second hand Audioquest Evergreen cable. Just because a youtuber says that this is snakeoil, it really is. We also dont know his testing device and software. I mean.. he made this on his PC, right? How do we know that PC is good enough and dont produces interferences? Also the connections from the PC to the whole setup is probably now high end. So many variables here. We dont know the samples of music he used.. where they high end or not? I just know, that i notice a difference when i use different cables. Also i know, that really expensive cables can sound worse sometimes. I trust my sense afterall. This is constructive critique btw. Im open for discussion and new tests any day.
Sure sure sure what if God was one of us, just a slob trying to make his way home? Ask to his face, no one will answer, maybe the Pope will call from Rome….
I am especually amused by the claims made for power cords. At best they're better at maintaining the level of dirty crap juice coming in from the wall.
Sorry but my ears tell me otherwise, I can hear the difference between cheap free cables and decent quality cables. I also happen to have some Silver plated speaker cables that some good man gave me for free when I bought his speakers. They sound more open and 3D than basic lamp cord speaker cables. That being said spending more than say $150 on a cable is ridiculous imo
@@KITR-UK its true. copper vs silver plated copper speaker cables are a big difference in how the sound is presented. also i had £16 rca cables and upgraded to audioquest evergreen for £40 and there was maybe a 5% improvement in how the sound was presented and it was just about audible, it was slightly cleaner too.
Funny thing is when I took the punt and changed my audioquest black lab RCAs for the most expensive chord shawline RCAs it was as if I was was hearing my rel subwoofers for the first time.
😂😂😂 this video is a lie . Complete lie , only applies to these who use very low quality systems or have hearing problems or simply don't know their music to catch difference. There are many variables here and in many cases good cable will make a nice difference. In some cases for some people it will not make a difference, room acoustics make far bigger difference of course and if someone throw speakers into untreated room those nuances that cables bring may not be heard at all while same set up in a room with good acoustics will be heard very clearly . Also that AQ cable you show could a china made fake ...
In all fairness you won’t hear any tape hiss in my system and you can’t differentiate between a CD with a 24 bit Dac and my 3 head decks I record on. I’d challenge you further to see if you could hear a difference between Atrac compressed minidiscs on my MD deck and cd.
You spent all this time comparing cables and it's all for naught, because audio quality cables are terrible quality. Price != quality. You should have compared high vs low quality. There are teardowns of audioquest cables on youtube and they are shown to be very thin with weak solder joints prone to snapping.
So, the one test you didn’t do, or perhaps you did but couldn’t broadcast it. That is, the comparison between cheap and expensive hookers. Does an expensive hooker really perform better than a cheap one? Which one makes better music? And, is the cheaper more flexible one better because it’s easier to pull your plug out with out risking potential damage. If you’re going to encourage us to invest in hookerrs rather than cables, then please do the comparison. Oh, and here’s an interesting thought:- Some audiophiles like to ‘bi-wire’. Does that mean that 2 hookerrs would be better than one? Or, if you found a bio sexual hooker, you’d get 2 for the price of one!
And what about if you are bisexual? Should you combine and expensive hooker with a much cheaper one. And which you should be the expensive hooker ? The male hooker or the female? And if bdsm is involved , should the cheaper hooker be the Dom , or the expensive one. Yes? Or no? Or yes?
So true, there is a lot of crap talked in hifi, and burning in cables is as you say, a bit of metal.
It’s sad that some people play music to listen to the hifi system and not the music.
I say buy Mogami and Canare. They use it to wire up recording studios. So if it’s good enough to record music, it’s good enough to listen to music. And it costs bugger all next to audiophile cable.
I can't believe that they have a pair of cables like you tested for $24,000 !
for the price ,It's not worth it.
Decent quality copper (which most cables have) and decent shielding is all it takes for an interconnect to be of sufficient quality. There can be slightly more quality difference between speakers cables, as there's much higher currents moving through those, but again, there are extreme diminishing returns. Decent quality copper of sufficient gauge, and you're good. And I'm not going to claim that there's absolutely nothing to be gained from going with specific types of cables etc, but the differences are so small that your ears are likely to be a much more limiting factor.
It's worth keeping in mind, that having multiple cables running behind a hi-fi rack or something, including power cables, is a source of noise, and it's why the skinny (unshielded) black "freebies" that come with cheap cd-players or similar can often sound somewhat less good, and it's helped hi-fi stores sell expensive cables for decades.
The main advantage of copper is not only its conductivity, but also its flexibility. A good quality copper cable will last a long time. This is especially important today, where you stumble across CCA or CCS everywhere in all kinds of wires. For example, take cheap ATX power supplies and cables and hold a magnet close. I have several that obviously have significant iron content in their wires. Cheap rolls of transparent speaker cables from the hardware store that look like copper? You bet they're CCA. Cheap Dupont wire sets for Arduino etc.? They're CCA, and once soldered, they break off faster as you can look. You immediately notice CCA because individual strands are surprisingly stiff and break easily. I'd not be surprised to find CCA even in Chinch cables where flexibility is necessary.
I agree completely
Thank u, this is very informative. Your results matched my listening test with different cables= no audible difference.
Absolutely correct. I've been in the Audiophile "business" for more years than I care to admit. High end cables are a marketing invention. We routinely did double-blind tests of cables varying in "quality" from whatever came with the component to $2500 cables. No one ever consistently identified any cable as sounding better. As far as sound quality, It's a myth. I will admit that high end cables are prettier. ;)
But there is actually a difference with Silver plated cables… Saw and heared it in two Videos, it’s supposed to be a bit clearer an sharper at the higher end
I think for short RCA cables, it doesn’t matter even if cheap lower grade metal is used. Inside an electric guitar, super thin cheap wires are used even in expensive guitars and the audio signal is still massive. ….Cable quality is usually an issue if you’re running very long lengths but most people are not running long lengths
the cable is pure silver ?
Nice to see test equipment used. Cheers mate
When you just spent 10.000 Euro / Pounds or Dollars on a cable you WANT to en WILL hear a difference. Even if there would be slight measurable differences, the question is whether our old ears can actually hear detect it them in these frequency ranges.
you have to find a justification for the wasted money
@@damirhlobik6488 that's it!
Anything over 10m you will hear the difference between single end,or semi balanced RCA it's only long runs that balanced XLR make a difference,that's why pro audio use balanced XLR,if you have a run of 3m for example you will not hear a difference.
Great video!
Many years ago I help install a Focal Grand Utopia/McIntosh system, and we asked we did much the same test with speaker and RCA, and the customer admitted they couldn't tell the difference … but went with the higher priced cables anyway. What can you do? Some people love throwing their money down the drain!
The 3rca cable was probably twice the length. Additionally, the shape of a loose cable alone increases interference due to the angles of the wire vs the angles of the interference sources. A short cable always performs better.
Expensive cables also increase repair profit because they destroy ports by weight and stress when moving racks, cleaning, hitting the wall, getting stressed to reach devices, etc.
I made my own interconnect cables with Coax conductors. I am really happy with the results
that"s what i do for 30+ foot runs of unbalanced audio. with balanced audio shielded cat6 is what even the highest end recording studios use to transport analogue audio 100+ feet.
you need the bulk cbale (pure silver) made your own interconnect cables
Thanks so much for this comprehensive testing and analysis. I was about to go buy a pile of overpriced cables - which has always bothered me - when I found your channel.
I’d buy you a beer if you were in California, but the best I can do instead is subscribe. Done!.
Cheers. I'm glad I could help somebody to save some money. If I'm ever in California, I'll take you up on your offer.
For God's sake, use your own ear first. Approach a reputable company that's willing to offer you a loan pair with no obligation to buy. Use your own ears and if you hear a clear and cognitive difference, chances are it's not a placebo effect, nor wishful thinking, as you would not have purchased the cable yet. If you don't feel the need to dig deep into your pockets after listening; if you think you hear a difference but you're not really sure, return the cables, get the cheapest interconnect you can find, and rest in peace. You think this guy's doing you a service by creating this video? You're doing yourself a disservice by taking his word and not listening for yourself. I have transformed my system with cable alone. It's not a placebo effect; it's not wishful thinking; it's not confirmation bias. It is the simple truth. Having said this, you should only look at cables once you have a solid system. You cannot polish a turd. A good cable can only bring out what your system has to offer. First make sure it has something to offer. Keep an open mind and be willing to experiment.
I use "cheap" cables from Thomann called the sssnake SRR. They have a spring strain relief, thick but flexible outer and good metal connectors and shielding at 6 euros for a single cable. I honestly can't hear the difference when it's line level signal.
IMO if you record the signal and play in-phase and phase-inverted signal together, there are interaction between these two inputs. They react to each other and got some summing error. That's why they don't completely canceled out.
I love this dude, he tells it like it is, with humour !
Just A/B tested an Audio Quest Big Sur with a Amazon Basic interconnect cable. When playing DSD files the differnce is obvious. For CD files I couldn't hear real differences.
Maybe it was just a wishful thinking?
@@KITR-UK I can still return the AQ cable if I feel it's snakeoil. Connected both cables from the same DAC to the same amp, and play Vavaldi's four seaons, AQ gives way more details and dynamic. I don't believe different USB cables make any differences, but analog cables surely do.
@@jefflee8102 I agree, but I also think the quality of the equipment plays a big role for you to be able to hear a sound improvement with more expensive cables. And, it's a matter of synergies.
In Akustik doesn't want to sell cables either. In any case, the cable capacity is a secret. This is not a secret with the Belden 1800F. 85 pF/m
Thanks,
I'm looking for cable with the proper measurements.
@@arvidlystnur4827 In the test for HiFi Cinch Cables the inner conductors of the AES/EBU microphone cables were connected in parallel.
I’m trying to eliminate a hum from my new turntable. I think I have a solid ground from the table to the amp. Amp is new and good quality. No hum from other sources. The rca cable I’m using is cheap one from Walmart. When I hold the cable the him gets louder. Should I get a better quality cable-better shielding?
Excellent test I appreciate your great work!
Thanks.
You can test if there were errors in your recording process. Record twice the same track with same cable. If the two recording cancel out each other, there’s a difference in cable. If they don’t, there’s an error in your recording process.
Real proper overview and comparison mate! Much appreciated.
great video bro, love it
Howdy.
Assuming the gear is High End.
Lancaster HiFi says there is a difference between interconnects and shows measurements to back it up.
Regards.
Excellent contribution - Thanks a lot ! Especially with digital signals, if all the zeroes and ones are read, who wants more.
The first piece of advice should be to avoid interference. For example, "isolate" your cable by changing its position. A few months ago I replaced the old cable with a Big Sur (RCA) and it was a major difference. However, two years ago I tried a similar expensive cable on another audio configuration and I did not feel any difference.
i just bought the same cable. connected to a dj mixer. while it sounds clearer. i got a migraine in 5 mins. extremey treble. 20 euro xlr to rca sounds better. but now im confused. lol
I think that the whole audio system (hardware and software) must be considered. I do not have treble problems.
Major ! Please.
It's subjective. Those graphs can't tell you if you'll like the sound. They showed 100 dog hip X-rays. They asked them which were crippled and which ones were fine based on X-ray. On 25 percent were correct. .
What about power cables?
Dude you got every accent there is, lol, proper blessed.
"It evidently doesn't work very well". Classic mate, classic :).
I worken in the Power cable industry for Prysmian, Pirelli and they have 200 factories in 120 countries making 60% of ALL CABLES WORLDWIDE.
Cardas , Monster, and 100 other brands DONT HAVE CABLE FACTORIES. they get to the big companies talk to sales people and work out what they want and get it made,, Get their name printed on it and it goes from $60 a metre to $1000 a metre,, ITS A COMPLETE RIP OFF.
Send signal 180 out of phase across two different cables. Hear nothing, then they are the same.
When switching on the bedroom TV, I could hear the signal even before the soundbar came on. Managed to make it up to 80% quieter with an entry-level HDMI shielded cable. However, being extremely sensitive to this particular type of noise, and after putting up with it for over 6 months, I ended up purchasing its stable mate flagship cable. Now, the faint background signal noise has totally disappeared 🥳
Conclusion;
many different forms of shielding!
Oh shit, 22k for cables, I was thinking is it worth to buy 50$ Ground zero tripple shielded, was thinking it's overprieced.
In the seventies, Sansui supplied the same cables with all its devices, the same as these 2 euro ones today, the power cable was fixed. Acoustic Research recommended a night lamp cable for their top model AR9.
What has changed since then except the greed of the cable manufacturers?
What is the Frequency Response software showing the graph, please?
"AudioQuest Wind Cable Listening Test
I hooked up my RME ADI-2 FS DAC V2 to a Topping A90 high-performance headphone amplifier alternatively using the Audioquest Wind and Generic able. The output of the A90 drove my Ether CX headphone. I could not detect a difference between the two in this limited testing. Mind you, there was more air when listening to the Wind. But then my wife who was in the kitchen informed me that the dogs had left the patio door open and whether I was OK if she closed it. Once she did, the air factor disappeared." Source: Audio Science Review
It's a good reason to have balanced audio cables. In this case the bulk eraser would have made no difference. I upgraded my rca to rca from turntable to preamp (I managed to get the interconnects for free) and it made a big difference on a crap speaker system. Yes I agree some times there is no point in spending silly money on cables. This is when extra money spent really makes no difference. Back in the day the IBA now ofcom had very high standards for signal paths in Radio Stations if the test failed then the station could not go on air. It was a way to keep access to radio for people who had lots of money (audiophiles).
The law of diminishing returns comes in quickly and hits hard, IMO.
After about $25 per, you're just pissing mobey away.
Lamp cord and Penicillin.
Good test. The most important takeaway here is that the thin red/white RCA cables that are included for free in many electronics are dogshit and should be replaced ASAP. I know you didn't hear a difference, but you used a 6ft cable, and interference matters more at longer lengths. I replaced my cheap 15ft red/white cable with a one made of double-shielded 18AWG solid coaxial wire for £40 and it made a huge difference. Tweeters no longer hissed. But you certainly don't need a £1000 silver cable at all.
So… there are measurable differences.
And again this proofs that there isn’t any difference between expensive and cheap cables. It’s all about plain electronic knowledge, it doesn’t make any difference as long as you don’t need cables that are longer than 5 meters, maybe than you need a slightly thicker gauge.
Car Audio is important. Bad rcas give alternator interference coming through speakers. Triple shielded twisted solves this. They cost more.
From an objective point of view, the sources and their connections are always flawless compared to the speakers of any cost, like 1000x better. On any system, any extra money should be spent of the speakers and amps that can support them.
Finally, a review without voodoo of a wild imagination trying to justify why they spent so much.
A big thank you.
I can barely understand this guy but he's funny. i hope he carries on because the audiophile scene needs some cursing and home truths.
Well, if it's at least 'barely', it's fine :)
For speakers all that matters is sufficient thickness ie low enough impedance for length. Lamp cord is as good as $1500 cables. You buy fancy cables because you are credulous, or have money to burn, or have a need for the looks.
Anyone who wants to know the real deal will look to TH-cam channel Audio Science Review, where Amir does high end scientific testing on all cables, backed up by blind listening tests, that confirm for instance that Amazon Basics RCA cables work and sound just as good as the most expensive products you can buy.
Those Amazon ones have superb connector plugs. Fit real snug
I'm maybe not the intended target audience of this video, yet it managed to hold my attention till the end and make me genuinely laugh out loud. Great video, loved the humor. The tune at 9:00 is extremely familiar, where is that from (a classic Trance track maybe)?
It's the title music from The Neverending Story.
@@KITR-UK Gotcha. I must have heard an old trance version of it at some point; namely Kai Tracid - Life Is Too Short. Thanks! th-cam.com/video/lNZUB0SmE88/w-d-xo.html
Different horses for different courses.
Short cable runs well, yeah, let's say cabling can be subjective. However, if one's system also happens to integrate a multi-channel setup too. To keep the noise floor to a minimum one really needs to go with shielded cables.
Unshielded cables can often act as antennas for attracting RF, and the longer the cable, the better the antenna! Probably explains why when I used to disconnect my Heights and surrounds within 10 minutes, the noise floor used to come back down to satisfactory levels.
The more cables I shield, the quieter the room becomes. In fact, the last group of cables I shielded were my HDMI's and Lo behold, the room became slightly quieter yet again.
When friends came around, I used to show them loud it goes. Nowadays, I prefer to press pause and show them how quiet it goes.
None of them gets it, of course 😂
Great video, the author is more knowledgeable than me.
I'm upgrading my audio system and considering replacing my cheap cables.
I had but lost an article that explained what makes a good or bad cable.
Different impeadence from source and return REQUIRES a capacitance that needs to be at a certain level. Too high causes frequency rolloff in the upper frequencies too low and the total signal degrades. at a certain point the capacitance is just right, any lower WON'T make a difference but may cause other problems.
The tests in this video suggests all of these cables probably have about the same capacitance.
I saw one reviewer ( to be kept nameless) compare a dirt cheap cable to a three thousand dollar snake oil ( in my opinion) cable.
He tested the cables A B blind folded, and preferred B because he found the treble was too harsh in A, he felt B was warm and natural.
Perhaps he should have lowered the treble when listening to A, but obviously cable B was restricting the upper frequencies, perhaps having too high a capacitance.
By the way, cable B was the $3000 one.
The best cable is simply the one with the lowest series resistance, the lowest capacitance and the lowest inductance.
The most serious manufacturers indicate these values; others should be avoided.
Connections must be of good quality for good contact and a good hold in place.
Everything else is just talk !
Thanks
Best conclusion ever! 😂 Saved me from buying a Chord Company C-line. I’ll just use the big standard cables I have! Thanks.
Just ordered a C-LINE Just to see what the fuss is all about knowing I can return it I have two sets of outputs on the back of the cd play so no swapping out the leads just switch cd to line in seconds so I'll know if it's any better will post results.
@justinparkman3585 Let me know how it went.
I find the title most irritating. 1) If your system is low-resolution, you will not notice much difference between any components. You can stop here. Buy the cheapest.
Assuming you have a high-resolution system: 2) Some cables ARE better than others for a variety of reasons. This can be a more pleasing sound depending on one's subjective preferences, soundstage, detail resolution, attack, extended perceived frequency response and so-on.
3) Some cables are more expensive than others for a variety of reasons. This could be materials, connectors, custom hand-made vs. bulk machine, treatments like cryogenics, burn-in etc. investment in research (quite rare in my opinion) and mark-up for small quantities, mark-up for brand names, sometimes quite obscene.
4) Are the expensive cables automatically better? Certainly not! For some you pay a premium for the brand name or snake-oil mystique.
5) Are the very cheapest cables the very worst? Not automatically BUT this IS more probable because of all the corner cutting and cost cutting (eg. PVC vs. Teflon insulators) to achieve the lowest price
6) Facit: audition cables in the price range you can and just can't easily afford.
I have some really expensive cables I don't like the sound of as much as ones that cost less. My most expensive interconnects ARE the best I've heard in my system (and I auditioned others I didn't buy).
Bonus: Q: What is a good sound? A: One you like the most. It's subjective. Get over it. And don't think that measurements will tell you anything. You have to audition anything you're considering. Return them if you don't like them.
Anecdote: I auditioned two pairs of very expensive interconnect. Both claim to be made with science - one placing marketing emphasis on the biasing of the dielectric and one placing marketing emphasis on phase coherence at all frequencies. Over many hours of listening one pair made my system more musical, coherent and enjoyable and one pair made it sound like the musicians were in different rooms reading the same sheet music but really not playing together. Maybe this latter one more accurately reflected what happened in the studio and therefore was more "true". But it made much of my music un-enjoyable. And the other pair had the opposite effect. Which was better? The pair that let me enjoy the music and not the pair that showed up recording problems. That's psychoacoustics. And yes, it's real and subjective.
All the best, Rob in Switzerland.
So you acknowledge, then, that cable makes a difference, and that more expensive isn't necessarily better.
I think what this guy is trying to tell you, is that they make no difference at all.
Now I know that's not true, and I also know that more expensive isn't necessarily better.
And yes, a good cable is going to draw out the best of what a system has to offer. And it doesn't look like the system in place has much to offer at all.
Idk this is such a grossly over debated topic. I however didn’t believe in cable jargon for a while and would just buy thicker braided cables because they looked nicer (OCD). However, recently I upgraded my system a bit more (now about 40K) and have noticed a difference from using Amazon XLR’s to trying the AQ Yukon XLR, I picked various songs I am extremely familiar with and I REALLY wanted to not hear anything difference because the thought of spending 500 on pair of cables is teeth clenching to me. However, upon listening I noticed a couple of things, the highs of certain voices were not as scratchy or ear piercing as they were with the Amazon basics. 2. The “soundstage” as they call it seemed more open and transparent? Idk. Like I said I don’t think its going to make any crappy system sound 500.00 better, it’s only going to be as good as its source and components but if you have a decent system, maybe, buy accordingly to that range. There is one thing for sure I know, the human ear has NOT been measured to it’s entirety, there are things we can hear that have yet to be measured. One thing is certain, science, is always evolving.
Well done. Probably will not discard my 50p cables after all!
with the cables that short wouldnt you be picking up the interference from the other electronic or the connectors to the cables? (meaning how close was your eraser box to the rest of the equipment?)
I kept all the electronics at the same distance for every single test. So, any interference that was or wasn't picked up by the electronics during the testing should have been the same.
I used a pair of cheap RCA cables and it got rid of your accent.
Bloody hell I always wanted a pair of those.
I'd take twisted pair or coax (read: physics) over 500 bucks worth of "shielding" any day of the week. Think of about it. If it's good enough for an oscilloscope to capture GIGAHERTZ frequencies, then it's good enough for your guitar or crappy record player. Usually the cheapo stuff is REALLY cost-reduced and has problems, so anything that isn't raw cheapo budget stuff, will basically be the same. A tiny layer of dirt on the connector will cause more problems than a premo cable will solve. Moreover, even when you GET your super audio cable connected to a machine guess what it's made out of? Simple strips of copper on a circuit board. Also every amplifier on a board adds noise regardless of cable.
People have been fooling themselves by buying crazy price cables that are pure silver & have brass connecters or alloy! Cable of the right thickness of pure copper with good shielding & copper connectors, that's it. Upgrade your speakers etc with the saved money & enjoy your music.
I had some $$$ cables and compared them to my cheaper cables and the cheaper cables were not better but different sooo thats how I heard things.
The difference between junk and good composite cable quality is between the $5 cables and the $25 shielded cables with decent copper. Paying hundreds or even thousands on a composite cable is ridiculous.
Thanks for this! It matches my experiet with cables.
Oh, ah look at my cables! You know how much they cost ? Been there done that!
Thanks for the great test! I'll save my $$$.
No man. He spread misinformation period. Or he can't hear anymore. Go into my video and listen to the difference and you can tell.
Diminishing return starts at a low price with cables.
10:51. I can't agree more. Treat your room.
Man, you hit those so called experts on you tube straight up the what you me call it. Keep up the good work, de bucking these charletens.
Yeah, people shouldn't waste money on products from scammer companies such as Audio Quest or Nordost.
Gotham Gac-1 Ultra Pro is the best wire for RCA in my experience. Flexible, robust and 4 layers of shielding (what really matters in RCA). And affordable no problem.
I use Amazon basic, bit overkill I know.
Half a monkey for a cable that won't bend... what a nonsense!
Great video. I like the studio-type cables - Mogami, Klotz, van Damme etc. - which can be custom made with decent connectors for not much dollar. I did hear a mini jack cable some years back that was a leap ahead of what I'd heard before and that was not especially pricey but did have good plugs (Switchcraft maybe?) that really snapped firmly into place, and I'm sure that helped.
Just two things to dismiss outright, 'off the bat', no measuring, no extensive listening sessions, no listening at all:
1) all courtesy cables that come in the box with normal HiFi-equipment, like a CD-player or amp (possibly not from the really expensive brands, but in general).
Those are just pairs of puny super thin stranded inferior copper wire in cheap PVC insulation with a dielectric constant promoting capacitance like no tomorrow on top of the inherent resistance, more or less surrounded by a similarly thin wire for 'shielding' and as a ground wire, in turn insulated by more PVC. No need to measure, it is bound to be that bad by sheer laws of physics. Can fight the law, but the law wins.
Back in the 90's I showed a friend how much his of-the-shelf HiFi 300-400 DM (Deutsche Mark back then, more or less Euro today) garbage absolutely benefitted from a modest real RCA interconnect round 25 DM, might translate to affordable 40-50 Euro today with Copper prices and all. No listening required, stuff still sounded (insert expletive here), but much, much better just for that. Even with hardware like that, get half-decent interconnects, period, full stop.
2) Nobody is going to sell me anything over, say, 1k Euro in cabling. Not interconnects, not mains, not loudspeakers; not per meter, but in general, with a little leave for longer speaker cables, mayhaps. I do not care how that measures, not a guaranty for sounding nice or seemingly better than stuff more reasonably priced. If it does not measure well for starters, well, good luck with that; not going to happen in the pricier regions, companies know that is going to be a starting point for reviews, can skip that step outside of technically heavy reviews.
I personally had crossed 'Nordost' off my list of companies I am ever going to buy from *before* viewing this TH-cam cast, just (*only just and precisely for that reason*) for selling (or trying to sell) cables in the 20k+ region, or just anywhere substantially over, say, 5k (giving a tiny leeway for Audioquest, e.g.). That, firstly, is for people wanting to show off their HiFi to some rare guests, bragging how their loudspeakers had cost 50k and the rack the same on top (not slagging off high price/high quality companies, if it's worth that much to you), likely buying without thinking and never been in the process of building and improving their system over the years as cost allowed. Secondly, if a company is into that sort of bogus, I will, off the bat again, not consider their stuff in accessible price ranges to be worth anything more than their name, I assume it to be what is paying their bills to promote their overpriced whatever-it-is-they-are-actually-selling stuff.
Again, measuring is all nice, but only goes so far within audible and system inherent tolerances. Good thing you highlighted whatever was going on their to be outside the human audible range, thanks for taking the trouble and a 'LIKE'. Accent is a tad hard to understand, but keep up the good work.
its all made of 75 OHM´S cables only different is shielding
😀😀👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 I'll check more videos from the channel - maybe there is a test of SPDIF and TOSLINKs - there are allllllot of disagreements about those too ..... 🤔🤔 I've seen COAX-SPDIF tested by some, but on 1-2 GHz, while the highest sampling freq. is under 500 KHz. Would be nice to see all tests of DATA cables.....
Thank you for the video. If an expensive cable doesn’t scientifically better then a cheap one, and I “hear” better Audio ( placebo ) , That’s fine With me as at the end i more enjoy!
The answer to the question "do analog interconnect really matter" is simple and straightforward: yes they do. Any argument about it can be settled by a simple blind test. The claim that well-performing cables cannot pass a blind test is a myth. Also, good luck comparing cables using graphs... unless you have found a way to graph imaging, instrument separation, stage depth and width, trailing end of notes, and transients.
The graphs represent what a sound card "hears" and if a sound card can't hear any difference, human ears can't either.
@@KITR-UK I worked in the sales side of the industry and we did a ton of tests while bored on slow days during the week. We definitely heard differences in cables but one thing was for certain... it had nothing to do with the price.
Of course being in a showroom, we had all sorts of switchers and could swap back and forth instantly by raising a hand for a coworker to click a button. After years of messing around with all of it, we determined that the cheap-ish spool of monster cable speaker wire and $30 RCA cables were the only real investment needed for cabling. Cheap throwaway cables seemed more likely to be noisy or restrict low end and the high cost stuff didnt improve upon the entry level monster cables.
Great conclusion!🤣
Why the heck do you not include a well designed proper cheap shielded RCA cable that you can get for a few Dolllars? It will be the winner!
i like your vids, keep up good work
i have audioquest sydney rca
This is the same racket as always. I am a fan of MM cartridges as a vinyl enthusiast. Ok I admit my MM cartridges are around $450 a piece. But the audio snobs look down on me because I like my Ortofon 2M black and they can’t sell me a moving coil for 3 thousand dollars because in my world that expense is unnecessary. When my stylus is worn I get another stylus for about 300 dollars. If the moving coil cartridge needs to be replaced that will be $3 thousand again. This is about music people. M U S I C first. If you can enjoy it be happy. This is not supposed to be a pissing contest.
$3000 is unnecessary expense in most people's world.
They sounded different and the graphs were different. This proves nothing. Well done for playing NES soundtrack though!
Down with snake oil!
What was the source? If it's electrically amplified the cable wouldn't matter, but if it's analogue, you might hear some difference.
How is the exchange rate for “half a monkey”? 😂
Go into a high end store and listen to 25k speakers. Near my home city is a shop that sells high and. He regulary makes listening nights where they start with cheap cables and go way up to the high end ones. There must be a reason, why his customers buy the expensive stuff afterwards. This test here makes not much sense, because his equipment is not near high end. He also does not use power filters, high end power cables etc. He also dont has a big stack of different sources like high end people have. They have way more interference. There must also be a reason why my 0,50 Cent ketchup cable sounds way worse then my second hand Audioquest Evergreen cable. Just because a youtuber says that this is snakeoil, it really is. We also dont know his testing device and software. I mean.. he made this on his PC, right? How do we know that PC is good enough and dont produces interferences? Also the connections from the PC to the whole setup is probably now high end. So many variables here. We dont know the samples of music he used.. where they high end or not? I just know, that i notice a difference when i use different cables. Also i know, that really expensive cables can sound worse sometimes. I trust my sense afterall. This is constructive critique btw. Im open for discussion and new tests any day.
Sure sure sure what if God was one of us, just a slob trying to make his way home? Ask to his face, no one will answer, maybe the Pope will call from Rome….
High End power cables 😂😂😂
cool bait, bro
I can not say this enough... i seen a 20k price tag on some audioquest cables..20k!!! Who in there crack head mind will pay that?
The really cheap cable is made with screened cable.
i just buy more expensive cables just because the connectors work better and the cables look better and are more flexibles
Can't agree more.
Thank you 😂😂😂
I prefer gold and cryptonite
I am especually amused by the claims made for power cords.
At best they're better at maintaining the level of dirty crap juice coming in from the wall.
Sorry but my ears tell me otherwise, I can hear the difference between cheap free cables and decent quality cables. I also happen to have some Silver plated speaker cables that some good man gave me for free when I bought his speakers. They sound more open and 3D than basic lamp cord speaker cables.
That being said spending more than say $150 on a cable is ridiculous imo
Are you certain, it's not just wishful thinking?
Subjectiv thinking
@@KITR-UK its true. copper vs silver plated copper speaker cables are a big difference in how the sound is presented. also i had £16 rca cables and upgraded to audioquest evergreen for £40 and there was maybe a 5% improvement in how the sound was presented and it was just about audible, it was slightly cleaner too.
Funny thing is when I took the punt and changed my audioquest black lab RCAs for the most expensive chord shawline RCAs it was as if I was was hearing my rel subwoofers for the first time.
You watch my test video soon then go sell your equipment and just move to the country side so the city noise doesn't damage your ears further
😂😂😂 this video is a lie .
Complete lie , only applies to these who use very low quality systems or have hearing problems or simply don't know their music to catch difference.
There are many variables here and in many cases good cable will make a nice difference.
In some cases for some people it will not make a difference, room acoustics make far bigger difference of course and if someone throw speakers into untreated room those nuances that cables bring may not be heard at all while same set up in a room with good acoustics will be heard very clearly .
Also that AQ cable you show could a china made fake ...
Who paid him to fake the frequency charts?
Placebo effect supports snake oil.
Reel to reel? That is as bad as vinyl (tape hiss, wow, flutter). A cable isn't going to save you. Try a CD.
In all fairness you won’t hear any tape hiss in my system and you can’t differentiate between a CD with a 24 bit Dac and my 3 head decks I record on. I’d challenge you further to see if you could hear a difference between Atrac compressed minidiscs on my MD deck and cd.
You spent all this time comparing cables and it's all for naught, because audio quality cables are terrible quality. Price != quality. You should have compared high vs low quality. There are teardowns of audioquest cables on youtube and they are shown to be very thin with weak solder joints prone to snapping.
So, the one test you didn’t do, or perhaps you did but couldn’t broadcast it. That is, the comparison between cheap and expensive hookers. Does an expensive hooker really perform better than a cheap one? Which one makes better music? And, is the cheaper more flexible one better because it’s easier to pull your plug out with out risking potential damage.
If you’re going to encourage us to invest in hookerrs rather than cables, then please do the comparison. Oh, and here’s an interesting thought:- Some audiophiles like to ‘bi-wire’. Does that mean that 2 hookerrs would be better than one? Or, if you found a bio sexual hooker, you’d get 2 for the price of one!
That's a rather good point and a good idea for another video.
@@KITR-UK 👍
And what about if you are bisexual? Should you combine and expensive hooker with a much cheaper one. And which you should be the expensive hooker ? The male hooker or the female? And if bdsm is involved , should the cheaper hooker be the Dom , or the expensive one. Yes? Or no? Or yes?
expensiwe cables is for naiwe richies
Bogus comparisons, frequently response doesn’t provide sound dynamics, detail, air, etc this guy is half baked folks
What a lost of time and money!
Jajaja