One of the religious rituals of Hanspur's followers is the drowning of a travelling companion, an echo of the origin of their deity. Worth considering before hiring one as a guard!
It's weird that I find Naderi more objectionable than Groteus, but I think that has something to do with how awesome a character Harrim is. I like how well-realized Pathfinder's gods seem. It's easy to imagine real people worshipping them, not just generic mad cultists.
My one and only Pathfinder character was a Paladin of (Its either Shelyn or Naderi) who when he was young accidentally caused the death of his younger brother vie drowning (he pushed him during an argument, and he hit a patch of ice and slipped into the local river, he wasn't able to get him out before he sadly died). Though his parents told him they forgave him for what happened, the damage was done, and least of all to be forgiven by others he couldn't overcome his inability to forgive himself. As soon as his father died his mother told him to leave. He was fifteen, alone, depressed, and unable to find somewhere to stay and so he went back to the river and wished himself to join his father and his brother. He threw himself into the river and drowned. Before death claimed him however, he saw a woman at the shore seemingly waiting for him, he thought to himself that it must be his mother and lamented the pain it would be to see another of her children down by the riverbank. The woman called out to him and asked him "Is there anyone to whom you love that should know I found you here?" and he said "No. Just my brother, just my father but neither are waiting for me this side of the river." and after a pause she merely said: "I am sorry. I weep for you, and I mourn you... and above all else I care for you... you'll have to stay here with nothing less than that." When he looked upon her then, he saw a beautiful woman, not unlike his mother but so much beyond just a single form... she taught him about love in all of its forms and told him that as he pursued the cause of love for others, he could find it for himself. This would be his task going forward. Though far from a church of Shelyn he managed to pick himself up and travel there. Half starved. Dehydrated. Half-mad off of the vision and lessons of the figure who saved him, he managed to find the church and stumble through its doors. The reason he is a Paladin of either Shelyn or Naderi is that he had no idea who it was he saw down by the river. And I created the character's backstory without any knowledge of Naderi or Shelyn. I also told my DM at the time that he could decide who the vision was of. It was then I found out about Naderi's association of with drowning and suicide. But also, that the task given to him was to honor and shelter those who loved innocently, purely, from there he could find for himself a love for himself, and this would correlate more with Shelyn. The Priests of the church where worried he was touched by Naderi but had faith in his heart for his desire to help those defend themselves from the darker aspects of love. He is sort of pulled by his devotion to the task at hand, to Shelyn's benevolence, but also his profound empathy for Naderi. In which ever case, it was a fun game, and I am not going to say how it concluded, but I think about this character a lot. I tried to port him into a D&D game, but it didn't precisely work like I wanted it to without the dual nature of the Goddesses he holds in high esteem. Sorry for the long comment, but I really do admire what you're doing here to try and make Pathfinder lore more accessible, and it definitely is something I have been enjoying greatly despite the fact I don't really play Pathfinder.
I think a conversation with a Groetus cleric would either be interesting or infuriating or both lol. In my opinion if the end is inevitable why change what you're doing, live life and enjoy it while it lasts. I'm going to guess that Groetus might be the key in stopping Rovagug. We may never see that point in Pathfinder lore given how these things are (most of the major events will stay static or far off into the future) I think it would be interesting for a campaign to explore what everything would be like after Rovagug is unleashed and potentially what the universe looks like after he either wins or looses.. preferably the post apocalypse scenario. You would have to do a lot more work in the win scenario.. pharasma's daughter heralds in the new epoch/universe.
These videos really have been a goldmine of inspiration for me. I have this idea of a Chaotic Neutral spell caster who, like so many others, became fascinated by Groetus and decided to learn more about him to satisfy his curiosity. However rather than becoming a nihilistic doomsayer he instead thanked Groetus for showing him that nothing lasts forever and teaching him to accept all endings and changes. This experience was extremely liberating and caused my character to let loose and not allow anything to stop him from living his life to the fullest. Also have this idea that he created a chaotic inverse of the Godclaw after encountering a group of Hellknights just to mess with them but ended up loving the idea so much that he adopted it as his main philosophical belief. Calistria representing personal freedoms and passions as well as being true to oneself, Groetus representing the acceptance of death and impermanence, Sekhmet representing explosive rage when facing a powerful enemy that threatens something or someone precious, and lastly The Lantern King who represents the need for humor and laughter both to celebrate all good things in life and to deal with the really bad things. While Calistria and Sekmet have many similarities, both being heavily associated within passion and vengeance, I feel like the most important difference between the 2 at least according to me is that while Calistria is about seeking vengeance when you yourself have been wronged Sekmet is more about vengeance when someone else has been wronged. Especially someone you care about. What do you all think? Would love to hear your opinions.
I love characters who worship multiple gods and not just one. Its something not many players, but in a world with many provable gods I suspect the vast, vast majority of the population would be somewhat polytheistic, turning to different gods for different reasons. Also you've picked out a great combination of deities here.
@@TheMythkeeper And it’s all thanks to you. As someone who loves Pathfinder it’s wonderful to see more TH-cam channels covering it. Especially with this level of quality.
One of the religious rituals of Hanspur's followers is the drowning of a travelling companion, an echo of the origin of their deity. Worth considering before hiring one as a guard!
It's weird that I find Naderi more objectionable than Groteus, but I think that has something to do with how awesome a character Harrim is.
I like how well-realized Pathfinder's gods seem. It's easy to imagine real people worshipping them, not just generic mad cultists.
My one and only Pathfinder character was a Paladin of (Its either Shelyn or Naderi) who when he was young accidentally caused the death of his younger brother vie drowning (he pushed him during an argument, and he hit a patch of ice and slipped into the local river, he wasn't able to get him out before he sadly died). Though his parents told him they forgave him for what happened, the damage was done, and least of all to be forgiven by others he couldn't overcome his inability to forgive himself. As soon as his father died his mother told him to leave. He was fifteen, alone, depressed, and unable to find somewhere to stay and so he went back to the river and wished himself to join his father and his brother. He threw himself into the river and drowned.
Before death claimed him however, he saw a woman at the shore seemingly waiting for him, he thought to himself that it must be his mother and lamented the pain it would be to see another of her children down by the riverbank. The woman called out to him and asked him "Is there anyone to whom you love that should know I found you here?" and he said "No. Just my brother, just my father but neither are waiting for me this side of the river." and after a pause she merely said: "I am sorry. I weep for you, and I mourn you... and above all else I care for you... you'll have to stay here with nothing less than that." When he looked upon her then, he saw a beautiful woman, not unlike his mother but so much beyond just a single form... she taught him about love in all of its forms and told him that as he pursued the cause of love for others, he could find it for himself. This would be his task going forward.
Though far from a church of Shelyn he managed to pick himself up and travel there. Half starved. Dehydrated. Half-mad off of the vision and lessons of the figure who saved him, he managed to find the church and stumble through its doors.
The reason he is a Paladin of either Shelyn or Naderi is that he had no idea who it was he saw down by the river. And I created the character's backstory without any knowledge of Naderi or Shelyn. I also told my DM at the time that he could decide who the vision was of. It was then I found out about Naderi's association of with drowning and suicide. But also, that the task given to him was to honor and shelter those who loved innocently, purely, from there he could find for himself a love for himself, and this would correlate more with Shelyn. The Priests of the church where worried he was touched by Naderi but had faith in his heart for his desire to help those defend themselves from the darker aspects of love. He is sort of pulled by his devotion to the task at hand, to Shelyn's benevolence, but also his profound empathy for Naderi.
In which ever case, it was a fun game, and I am not going to say how it concluded, but I think about this character a lot. I tried to port him into a D&D game, but it didn't precisely work like I wanted it to without the dual nature of the Goddesses he holds in high esteem.
Sorry for the long comment, but I really do admire what you're doing here to try and make Pathfinder lore more accessible, and it definitely is something I have been enjoying greatly despite the fact I don't really play Pathfinder.
🤔interesting
Got pathfinder wotr on sale and can’t get enough of this lore content of yours. Helps me get into the world so much - very appreciated!
You're welcome sir!
Have a favourite mythic path yet?
I think a conversation with a Groetus cleric would either be interesting or infuriating or both lol. In my opinion if the end is inevitable why change what you're doing, live life and enjoy it while it lasts.
I'm going to guess that Groetus might be the key in stopping Rovagug. We may never see that point in Pathfinder lore given how these things are (most of the major events will stay static or far off into the future) I think it would be interesting for a campaign to explore what everything would be like after Rovagug is unleashed and potentially what the universe looks like after he either wins or looses.. preferably the post apocalypse scenario. You would have to do a lot more work in the win scenario.. pharasma's daughter heralds in the new epoch/universe.
These videos really have been a goldmine of inspiration for me. I have this idea of a Chaotic Neutral spell caster who, like so many others, became fascinated by Groetus and decided to learn more about him to satisfy his curiosity. However rather than becoming a nihilistic doomsayer he instead thanked Groetus for showing him that nothing lasts forever and teaching him to accept all endings and changes. This experience was extremely liberating and caused my character to let loose and not allow anything to stop him from living his life to the fullest.
Also have this idea that he created a chaotic inverse of the Godclaw after encountering a group of Hellknights just to mess with them but ended up loving the idea so much that he adopted it as his main philosophical belief. Calistria representing personal freedoms and passions as well as being true to oneself, Groetus representing the acceptance of death and impermanence, Sekhmet representing explosive rage when facing a powerful enemy that threatens something or someone precious, and lastly The Lantern King who represents the need for humor and laughter both to celebrate all good things in life and to deal with the really bad things.
While Calistria and Sekmet have many similarities, both being heavily associated within passion and vengeance, I feel like the most important difference between the 2 at least according to me is that while Calistria is about seeking vengeance when you yourself have been wronged Sekmet is more about vengeance when someone else has been wronged. Especially someone you care about.
What do you all think? Would love to hear your opinions.
I love characters who worship multiple gods and not just one. Its something not many players, but in a world with many provable gods I suspect the vast, vast majority of the population would be somewhat polytheistic, turning to different gods for different reasons. Also you've picked out a great combination of deities here.
@@TheMythkeeper And it’s all thanks to you. As someone who loves Pathfinder it’s wonderful to see more TH-cam channels covering it. Especially with this level of quality.
I really like the artwork of the Godess of Death.
Even since I found Sivanah she has become one of my favorite
Great reference at 4:45 to Majora's Mask, I didn't expect it lol.
Was so looking forward to another video coming out!😊
Groetus is all knowing.
I like the idea of a goddess like Naderi.
Never would have thought that the Romeo & Juliet types would get their own deity 😳🤔🫠
Yeah that's about as niche as a god gets
That's got to be rough, being the god of Shakespearean tragedies.
Groetus is only True God. The entropy is inevitable
Seems so
are theae for pathfinder 1e or 2e
Both!
Yes. PF2e did add a few more gods however.
Too bad thers no more info on Zyphus
We’ll get there! So many deities in this game 😅