@@reliableralf1 to be fair the crew will have to be large. The vehicle is close to F1 so let’s just set that standard now. Give them a redbull jersey and set the gold standard at 1.8seconds.
@@ryantheridemechanic I have a Ricky Rudd NASCAR Pit Crew Shirt I got on sale from a NASCAR store a long time ago. I was going to wear it to the TT2 Preview event. But I'm not one for calling attention to myself if I can help it lol Maybe HalloWeekends. All I can hear is high-powered impact wrenches zzzzzp zzzzp zzzzpzzzzp. (I have a Hot Wheels HO scale 'Tech Race Challenge' interactive electronic race track that makes that noise. I have a video of that on my old collectibles channel 'CollectionTHX118'). As far as TT2 mod, if it'd make the ride smoother. I heard a kid saying when they open Top Thrill 2 again do they call it Top Thrill 3?
Thank you for this video. It's great to get information from someone who knows what their talking about and makes perfect sense. Keep these great videos coming. If someone isn't subscribed to this channel, then they're not a true coaster enthusiast.
Another great video Ryan. Lots there to help me understand a little more about how wheel carriers work. Let’s hope they can get TT2 open soon. I’m sure they’re all working hard to make it happen asap.
From the UK. I love the videos, from this to Hyperia your knowledge is invaluable. I like to know a lot about rides (but I don't), and you take it to the next level whilst allowing non engineers to understand on a basic level, the inner workings. Thank you!! Please keep it up
I actually brought a ride attendants attention to a train on Iron rattler last Friday during Rollercoaster Rodeo. Nobody noticed that something, a cape or piece of trash had got tangled in the very back road wheel of a train. I saw it when I got to the air gate and the train had dispatched. As it went over the drop it was flapping in the wind behind the train. I made my lap and as I got off I told one of the ops that train 2 had something tangled in a very back axle, left side wheel assembly and to look when it returned to the station. He was very thankful and they actually got a mechanic over there pretty quick, just a minor delay and got it untangled and reopened the ride.
You should be a ride mechanic instructor cause you really know how to teach and be very detailed on things ...all these up and coming ppl that want to work on rides should have to watch you and LEARN you are really good at this i love your videos i always agree with you on a lot of things its like we are on the same wave length being a former ride mechanic my self.....
@@ryantheridemechanic Hey I'm a Coaster nerd too...actually I love playing planet coaster cause of the dynamics it has to really design the ride and all aspects... its funny cause of all my knowledge and actually building a coaster and working on them i actually give solid info to ppl at the park when they ask about the coasters and things and all the technical stuff...i also tell them to watch your channel too cause of how in depth you go as well....i m telling you if we ever got to sit down and have a conversation it would be very in depth and fun.....i know i would learn a lot more as well cause i m always open to learning new things as well.....
Love your channel! One thing that I just don't understand is why, after 1000's (maybe) of ride cycles over several months, did this show up after just 1 week of running with the public? I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.
Thank you for your video. I have been a coaster enthusiast since I was 10 years old. I loved riding front seat on all of the rides just to see how the brakes and everything worked. I currently work at a machine shop as a processing engineer. I wish I worked in your field
I was always curious about what type of material the parts are made of. I currently work with punch and dies so majority of it is cold rolled A2, M2, some powdered material and a few times stainless. I was also a surface grinder at one point in time and realized the smallest of material change and heat treatment can make a huge difference. I am also familiar with Urethane strippers for punches which helped me to understand the actual wheel makeup
“Theory will only take you so far.” I ran across a guy at KI that had ridden TT2 22 times and he said they need to slow it down. It is going way too fast over the top hat and through the heartline. He is worried the track is not going to handle the forces and be severely damaged. Now as for the trains, less is more is not always the best or the greatest option. That single web holding the guide and up stop wheels on is way too small. Something they proved by adding gussets; of course the only thing they did was move the point of failure to the next weakest point. The ride may open again this year but the problems are far from over.
Ryan, the longer this plays out the more I believe you are exactly right with what's going on here. I believe you are 100% right that they welded these gussets into place on the existing wheel carriers as a test platform to see if it would stabilize the guide wheels. They probably tried adjusting the guide wheels bumpers like you said until it became too stiff and created deflection in the steel. Once they verified the braced units would work, they then had to go back into their cad or design software and add in the filler bracing to the existing design, possibly beefing up the entire assembly with more webbing and machining areas to lose some weight in areas they could afford to. Once those revisions are finalized after stress analysis and probably a team of engineers then they go to manufacture each wheel carrier. I think people think it's an easy process, but they don't understand that each carrier is basically going into a cnc as a block of billet steel and basically being 3d printed to the exact finalized design. 3 trains x however many carriers per train. And I doubt zamperla has more than 2 of these at most in their shop. Probably only 1. My brother is a mechanical engineer building robotic automation machines and the company he works for has 1(ironically enough robotics is so similar to roller coasters). So sourcing out getting these built or doing it in house is going to take time. These machines are amazing, but people don't think about the hours of cutting it will take to make 1 unit, or to make 60 of these. I'm just guessing probably an 8-16 hour cut time depending on complexity and machining away areas for weigh savings. Then they will probably x-ray each piece before sending to powdercoating before shipping them. I'm sure they are working fast as they can, it's just the process and people need to be patient and trust it. Wouldn't be surprised if they aren't shooting to get at least 2 trains done for around the 4th of july... but that all depends on sourcing the machine work and QC process
Makes total sense. I also wonder if tightening the guide wheels tends to slow the train. This would make sense given that they started to experience a number of rollbacks on the third launch right before the ride shut down. Thoughts @ryantheridemechanic ?
@@noclosecoasters9903 depends on the ride honestly. Some rides, tightening them will make it go faster. Some slower. Either way if you over tighten them you blow the wheels out (melt the urethane.)
Enjoyed the video and speculations based on prior experience in the industry. I'm looking forward to the whole wheel carriers video you have coming out, cool. Oh and fun intro. The humor makes it better.
I do believe you’re correct on this. Very informative video! I actually am desiring to get into NDT and this was also educational. Having worked at CP, I know the management is ready for this to open…but they know they can’t afford another incident like a few years ago. Beefier wheel assemblies I believe is the first step to making the ride run much better.
It would make sense that the last descending twist caused extra force on the wheel assembly's. It's violent as hell when you ride it (especially on the left side)
The silver train had issues with the restraints on row 9 i think prior to it opening. It was blocked off 2 days into the passholder preview.. Another great vid Ryan
I think it would be in CP best interest to let Zamperla, refabricate the assemblies with the plates all in one piece billet material, that way it's 💯 ready to go, no issues hopefully, I rode the ride May 6 th and it , the ride was way more smooth, then Dragster 1.0, hardly any shaking, so it's interesting to find out what the real issues are with the trains, but I do agree that they tested the welded assemblies and got the green light to refabricate the parts, 👍, I'm looking forward to riding this ride again, it's bad ass, the spike in reverse is something to experience 👍
There's a picture out there where it looks like they were strain gauging the wheel carriers to me. As a structural testing engineer that's what I would have done to see if you're going to get cracks again. Have to check if you're under the fatigue limit or at least tell cedar point how long it will last before needing replaced Also I saw American testing services (the ndt company) has an opening for cedar point to be based out of there. Maybe to support the Inspections on tt2
I’ve seen thing like that done. If the NDT guys couldn’t get to the ride that day, it didn’t open. A park that big naturally has the need for an embedded NDT guy or 3 for sure!
This is so in depth I love it. Analysis LOL. 6k subs coming soon for you woohooo!! also answered one of my first questions about the train with the front wheel covers there. Had an additional question to the wheels locking up, is it easier to tell a wheel has locked up when the track is wet? Sometimes you can hear on old arrows the little squeal noise and I figure its just wet track, but would a locked up wheel make on wet track make more noise then a regular dry day?
Wet wheels trend to hydroplane as long as the track is wet. So you could see some skidding on the wheels if the bearings are cold especially. The sound would be barely noticeable as different.
The talking point about the Arrow/Vekoma track gauge fluctuating and stretching over time is very interesting, as I've always wondered why some rides seemingly get rougher with age. What repairs are likely to be done on just the track, supports or foundations a steel coaster throughout its life, if at all?
Really want to buy some merch and planned to soon, but got hit with some unexpected financial struggles this past week. Will be getting at least the 'air gate" shirt as soon as financially viable!
It's crazy this has been as big of an issue as it is. The hunting has been evident in pretty much all videos since they first started showing off the ride. The two times i rode it was pretty wild. People kept making excuses about how TTD used to do that but it really didn't. Not to the same degree for sure. One thing I hate about the new trains, and i wonder how this effects the engineering and stresses on the trains is the higher ride height. When the train twists on the tower, it feels like you're going to be ejected and not in a fun way. I ended up bumping into my daughter both times going up. Anyway, the increased ride height i would think would apply more twisting force to the trains and track and i just wonder if that might be an issue, if not now, at some point.
Heres My thought.....the trains are TOP HEAVY and with it being designed for a lower center point this is causing the flex and cracks into the wheel assembly.... THEY need to bring the seats lower and bring the center point down....this is just my thoughts on it...
@@ryantheridemechanic RIGHT...!!!! as you look at the seats they are really HIGH so it can cause a different center of gravity....BUT YEAH TT3 i love your sense of humor..
@@jalenpadilla7744 to try and prevent things from hitting the wheels. Basically they have to be on some times for machine guarding depending on where it’s installed.
Do you think them moving the hydraulics for the restraints up behind the seats from where Intamin had them on the floor has moved the center of gravity of the train up and that this exacerbates the shake going down the track?
Not sure you completely finished your thought on potential timeline for new wheel carriers -- what would be a potential turnaround to have new carriers machined, shipped out and installed?
its all speculation. if they want to build new carriers it could take weeks to complete. but this step might be waiting the testing they are doing right now.
Yea I’m still trying to wrangle in the use. I tend to double cut then accidentally move and overlap things. But I came from imovie that’s simple to use but effects are extremely hard to do. I do like wondersaher better.
I had a question! What are the trim like looking pieces of track on the hills of some wooden coasters? I don’t believe they’re trim brakes but I’ve always wondered if they’re anti-roll back devices or something. Found towards the highest points of some hills on some woodies but not the main lift
I wonder if all 3 trains have the modification, or just one. I could see if it was just a test that they would have just modified one till they could machine the full replacement parts.
Something I've wondered for awhile now, does each coaster get its own set of mechanics? Or does one mechanic get assigned to just a few rides, or just a general park wide mechanic? Are woodies treated differently with staffing?
coasters typically share mechanics. a mechanic could open 3-18 rides in the morning depending on their area. woodies have a carpenter crew. at parks with multiple woodies the carpentry crew is split up to cover these.
Hey Ryan. Today at Oaks Amusemnt Park in Portland, OR there is a pendulum type ride that goes upside down and goes over instead of just the swinging like MaxAir and Delium. This ride called AtmosFEAR got stuck upside down for 30 minutes and the fire dept. had be called. What would cause it to stop upside down? And should the computer be programmed to always return the gondola to the “Home” position to avoid stopping it upside down?
Had a question about LSMs. Is there a reason all of them are white? Could they not be finished in the same color as the track to blend for rides where you wouldn't want to have them seen? Like Hagrid's, for example.
I’m not 100%sure but…… White reflects solar radiation making outdoor stators run cooler. In Tron theirs are black. The coating is not paint it’s a heat sync compound. I believe it can be tinted but white is also better for inspection.
do you think that the trains sitting up higher than the original Dragster trains is throwing off the heart line enough to put too much force on the wheel carriers? many people who have gotten rides say that especially on the left side of the train you get thrown super hard when you go through that downward spiral. could that effect the integrity of the track over time?
... I don't like the criticism of my rc tycoon coaster where the train falls off. its called the eliminator for a reason and YES that brick wall is supposed to be there.
Technically you are wrong, I have several degrees, including "Mech Eng", "Gear Design/Geometry", Machinist and CNC Programmer...managed machining, engine build, engineering for a major Nascar Team, Senior Engineer at "GM" and" Boeing", yes building vehicles and planes. The term "billet" is common today, and the "grade" of the "ALUMIIUM" is critical. T-6061 is most common and used endlessly, aerospace applications and race car applications relate to "7075", there is no "steel" involved". Majority of your aerostructures are '7075", there is no billet "steel". All current aerostructures are aluminum, not steel, again it's all about the grade of the material. The "stresses" involved on an aircraft, commercial and military exceed this ride...which I rode for app. 18 years...bearing "choice" for the application is critical, as well as the actual bearing manufacture. Yes, the actual shaft will be steel, and again the choice of steel is critical.... the actual wheel, "lighting" holes machined into them is critical....I've manu. components that include the moon and mars, with the extensive down time, it's a serious issue.
Wow that’s really interesting! So my experience is from other manufactures. (I’m just a mechanic) we purchased a billet housing made from aluminum and billet wheel carriers (they called steel). And the engineers at the time said you don’t typically weld on billet. That’s all I really know of the subject of billet. That’s a lot of info for sure. What’s your take on the whole gussets that popped up?
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CP should swap the wheel carriers like a NASCAR tire change during a race to enhance the racing theme 😂
Just a second folks, (pulls out wheel carrier from a small bag) haha!
Fire idea. I’m calling up Tony Clark about this!
@@reliableralf1 to be fair the crew will have to be large. The vehicle is close to F1 so let’s just set that standard now. Give them a redbull jersey and set the gold standard at 1.8seconds.
@@ryantheridemechanic I have a Ricky Rudd NASCAR Pit Crew Shirt I got on sale from a NASCAR store a long time ago. I was going to wear it to the TT2 Preview event. But I'm not one for calling attention to myself if I can help it lol Maybe HalloWeekends. All I can hear is high-powered impact wrenches zzzzzp zzzzp zzzzpzzzzp. (I have a Hot Wheels HO scale 'Tech Race Challenge' interactive electronic race track that makes that noise. I have a video of that on my old collectibles channel 'CollectionTHX118'). As far as TT2 mod, if it'd make the ride smoother. I heard a kid saying when they open Top Thrill 2 again do they call it Top Thrill 3?
I'm an engineer, and roller coaster enthusiast! Thanks for this channel, it's super interesting learning how all these machines work!
Awesome! Your welcome.
I would love to see a video about the 1st gen RMC trains and their wheel carrier system and compare it to the 2nd gen RMC trains.
Thank you for this video. It's great to get information from someone who knows what their talking about and makes perfect sense. Keep these great videos coming. If someone isn't subscribed to this channel, then they're not a true coaster enthusiast.
Thanks for the kind words!
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“No capes”
Got it haha!!
you have very easily become one of my favourite watches
Thank you! That means a lot!
Another great video Ryan. Lots there to help me understand a little more about how wheel carriers work. Let’s hope they can get TT2 open soon. I’m sure they’re all working hard to make it happen asap.
I’m hoping my actual wheel carrier video I can get some full size props to demonstrate
Great video, logical analysis and fact based without speculation. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
From the UK. I love the videos, from this to Hyperia your knowledge is invaluable. I like to know a lot about rides (but I don't), and you take it to the next level whilst allowing non engineers to understand on a basic level, the inner workings.
Thank you!! Please keep it up
Awesome thank you!
I actually brought a ride attendants attention to a train on Iron rattler last Friday during Rollercoaster Rodeo. Nobody noticed that something, a cape or piece of trash had got tangled in the very back road wheel of a train. I saw it when I got to the air gate and the train had dispatched. As it went over the drop it was flapping in the wind behind the train. I made my lap and as I got off I told one of the ops that train 2 had something tangled in a very back axle, left side wheel assembly and to look when it returned to the station. He was very thankful and they actually got a mechanic over there pretty quick, just a minor delay and got it untangled and reopened the ride.
Good job! Sounds like it was important enough to hold up operation. If they ran it, that’s their decision but as guests all we can do is inform.
Hell of a breakdown. Was a pleasure to watch.
Best video on the subject that I have seen. Appreciate you sharing your knowledge!
I do what I can
Thanks for another great video!
Already received my sweet new "Stay Off The Air Gates" tshirt and a beanie for my friend!
Nice!! Now….. with great power comes great responsibility. Haha!
@@ryantheridemechanic Don't worry, while wearing the shirt, I'm gonna lean on as many airgates as I can!
Love how you refer to TT2 as Dragster. Unintentionally I do the same, oftentimes I do it intentionally.
You should be a ride mechanic instructor cause you really know how to teach and be very detailed on things ...all these up and coming ppl that want to work on rides should have to watch you and LEARN you are really good at this i love your videos i always agree with you on a lot of things its like we are on the same wave length being a former ride mechanic my self.....
Allays love to talk and I did a lot of training for all the mechanics. Plus I started as a rollercoaster nerd so that helped.
@@ryantheridemechanic Hey I'm a Coaster nerd too...actually I love playing planet coaster cause of the dynamics it has to really design the ride and all aspects...
its funny cause of all my knowledge and actually building a coaster and working on them i actually give solid info to ppl at the park when they ask about the coasters and things and all the technical stuff...i also tell them to watch your channel too cause of how in depth you go as well....i m telling you if we ever got to sit down and have a conversation it would be very in depth and fun.....i know i would learn a lot more as well cause i m always open to learning new things as well.....
@@ericcartman3385 maintenance round table session 2 if you want to email me about It.
@@ryantheridemechanic I will do that
Love your channel! One thing that I just don't understand is why, after 1000's (maybe) of ride cycles over several months, did this show up after just 1 week of running with the public?
I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.
Great video Ryan! Thank you for your input!
Mind boggling how many things could be wrong. Are we making things too complicated? A lot is riding on perfection. Thanks for your insight.
its just another part on the machine. the same can be said about any cr on the road
Thank you for your video. I have been a coaster enthusiast since I was 10 years old. I loved riding front seat on all of the rides just to see how the brakes and everything worked. I currently work at a machine shop as a processing engineer. I wish I worked in your field
I was in the right place at the right time. For sure.
I was always curious about what type of material the parts are made of. I currently work with punch and dies so majority of it is cold rolled A2, M2, some powdered material and a few times stainless. I was also a surface grinder at one point in time and realized the smallest of material change and heat treatment can make a huge difference. I am also familiar with Urethane strippers for punches which helped me to understand the actual wheel makeup
“Theory will only take you so far.”
I ran across a guy at KI that had ridden TT2 22 times and he said they need to slow it down. It is going way too fast over the top hat and through the heartline. He is worried the track is not going to handle the forces and be severely damaged.
Now as for the trains, less is more is not always the best or the greatest option. That single web holding the guide and up stop wheels on is way too small. Something they proved by adding gussets; of course the only thing they did was move the point of failure to the next weakest point. The ride may open again this year but the problems are far from over.
I think revision 2 carriers are in the works. I also think the supports are too small. But no math to back up that statement.
Ryan, the longer this plays out the more I believe you are exactly right with what's going on here. I believe you are 100% right that they welded these gussets into place on the existing wheel carriers as a test platform to see if it would stabilize the guide wheels. They probably tried adjusting the guide wheels bumpers like you said until it became too stiff and created deflection in the steel. Once they verified the braced units would work, they then had to go back into their cad or design software and add in the filler bracing to the existing design, possibly beefing up the entire assembly with more webbing and machining areas to lose some weight in areas they could afford to. Once those revisions are finalized after stress analysis and probably a team of engineers then they go to manufacture each wheel carrier.
I think people think it's an easy process, but they don't understand that each carrier is basically going into a cnc as a block of billet steel and basically being 3d printed to the exact finalized design. 3 trains x however many carriers per train. And I doubt zamperla has more than 2 of these at most in their shop. Probably only 1. My brother is a mechanical engineer building robotic automation machines and the company he works for has 1(ironically enough robotics is so similar to roller coasters). So sourcing out getting these built or doing it in house is going to take time. These machines are amazing, but people don't think about the hours of cutting it will take to make 1 unit, or to make 60 of these. I'm just guessing probably an 8-16 hour cut time depending on complexity and machining away areas for weigh savings.
Then they will probably x-ray each piece before sending to powdercoating before shipping them.
I'm sure they are working fast as they can, it's just the process and people need to be patient and trust it. Wouldn't be surprised if they aren't shooting to get at least 2 trains done for around the 4th of july... but that all depends on sourcing the machine work and QC process
And we are still just speculating as well. Who knows, a whole train might be in the works?
Makes total sense. I also wonder if tightening the guide wheels tends to slow the train. This would make sense given that they started to experience a number of rollbacks on the third launch right before the ride shut down. Thoughts @ryantheridemechanic ?
@@noclosecoasters9903 depends on the ride honestly. Some rides, tightening them will make it go faster. Some slower. Either way if you over tighten them you blow the wheels out (melt the urethane.)
Enjoyed the video and speculations based on prior experience in the industry. I'm looking forward to the whole wheel carriers video you have coming out, cool. Oh and fun intro. The humor makes it better.
thanks!
Really good video and explanation 👌 thanks for being detailed on those carriers
your welcome!
I do believe you’re correct on this. Very informative video! I actually am desiring to get into NDT and this was also educational.
Having worked at CP, I know the management is ready for this to open…but they know they can’t afford another incident like a few years ago. Beefier wheel assemblies I believe is the first step to making the ride run much better.
It’s a growing pain for the new trains. They will figure it out.
It would make sense that the last descending twist caused extra force on the wheel assembly's. It's violent as hell when you ride it (especially on the left side)
The silver train had issues with the restraints on row 9 i think prior to it opening. It was blocked off 2 days into the passholder preview.. Another great vid Ryan
Thank you
Love your videos thank you
Your welcome!
I think it would be in CP best interest to let Zamperla, refabricate the assemblies with the plates all in one piece billet material, that way it's 💯 ready to go, no issues hopefully, I rode the ride May 6 th and it , the ride was way more smooth, then Dragster 1.0, hardly any shaking, so it's interesting to find out what the real issues are with the trains, but I do agree that they tested the welded assemblies and got the green light to refabricate the parts, 👍, I'm looking forward to riding this ride again, it's bad ass, the spike in reverse is something to experience 👍
Funny intro. Made me laugh. Good information. Thanks.
That intro was the best so far!!!!!! 😂
Haha! Thank you!
There's a picture out there where it looks like they were strain gauging the wheel carriers to me. As a structural testing engineer that's what I would have done to see if you're going to get cracks again. Have to check if you're under the fatigue limit or at least tell cedar point how long it will last before needing replaced
Also I saw American testing services (the ndt company) has an opening for cedar point to be based out of there. Maybe to support the Inspections on tt2
I’ve seen thing like that done. If the NDT guys couldn’t get to the ride that day, it didn’t open. A park that big naturally has the need for an embedded NDT guy or 3 for sure!
This is so in depth I love it. Analysis LOL. 6k subs coming soon for you woohooo!! also answered one of my first questions about the train with the front wheel covers there. Had an additional question to the wheels locking up, is it easier to tell a wheel has locked up when the track is wet? Sometimes you can hear on old arrows the little squeal noise and I figure its just wet track, but would a locked up wheel make on wet track make more noise then a regular dry day?
Wet wheels trend to hydroplane as long as the track is wet. So you could see some skidding on the wheels if the bearings are cold especially. The sound would be barely noticeable as different.
How about a vid talking different styles of hitches and engineering behind them?
The talking point about the Arrow/Vekoma track gauge fluctuating and stretching over time is very interesting, as I've always wondered why some rides seemingly get rougher with age.
What repairs are likely to be done on just the track, supports or foundations a steel coaster throughout its life, if at all?
Track aging. Okay I can talk a little bit about that.
Really want to buy some merch and planned to soon, but got hit with some unexpected financial struggles this past week. Will be getting at least the 'air gate" shirt as soon as financially viable!
Take your time there’s no hurry!
I’d agree. That rib just looks puny. Just look at any other guide or upstop wheel assy, the are much more substantial
I believe the math was correct but there is another factor that wasn’t seen until it was in full swing.
You should make merch that says “I hate capes”
Capes are for hero’s not road wheels
It's crazy this has been as big of an issue as it is. The hunting has been evident in pretty much all videos since they first started showing off the ride. The two times i rode it was pretty wild. People kept making excuses about how TTD used to do that but it really didn't. Not to the same degree for sure.
One thing I hate about the new trains, and i wonder how this effects the engineering and stresses on the trains is the higher ride height. When the train twists on the tower, it feels like you're going to be ejected and not in a fun way. I ended up bumping into my daughter both times going up. Anyway, the increased ride height i would think would apply more twisting force to the trains and track and i just wonder if that might be an issue, if not now, at some point.
Only way to fix that would be an entire redesign of the train. Not that they wouldn’t do it but if push came to shove it might need to happen one day.
Heres My thought.....the trains are TOP HEAVY and with it being designed for a lower center point this is causing the flex and cracks into the wheel assembly....
THEY need to bring the seats lower and bring the center point down....this is just my thoughts on it...
Interesting. I could see that.
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@@ryantheridemechanic RIGHT...!!!! as you look at the seats they are really HIGH so it can cause a different center of gravity....BUT YEAH TT3 i love your sense of humor..
@@ericcartman3385 thanks! Tell my wife that haha!!! She has to put up with me 24/7 haha
@@ryantheridemechanic Sure why not...lol
They dropped Dragster from the name and replaced it with '2' when they dropped the Dragster-like acceleration from the ride.
We are leaving from California for kings island and cedar point tmrw I hope it is open
We are waiting to see.
We did just that a month ago...rode Tt2 the day before the closure
On the zamperla assembly: why wouldn’t the front car guides or upstops also have these mudflaps?
@@jalenpadilla7744 to try and prevent things from hitting the wheels. Basically they have to be on some times for machine guarding depending on where it’s installed.
Do you think them moving the hydraulics for the restraints up behind the seats from where Intamin had them on the floor has moved the center of gravity of the train up and that this exacerbates the shake going down the track?
No, there’s not much in the weight there and those trains are much lighter to start with. The effects a marginal.
Not sure you completely finished your thought on potential timeline for new wheel carriers -- what would be a potential turnaround to have new carriers machined, shipped out and installed?
its all speculation. if they want to build new carriers it could take weeks to complete. but this step might be waiting the testing they are doing right now.
That flash frame at 0:57 is wild! Wondershare Filmora eh?
Yea I’m still trying to wrangle in the use. I tend to double cut then accidentally move and overlap things. But I came from imovie that’s simple to use but effects are extremely hard to do. I do like wondersaher better.
@@ryantheridemechanic All good homie! I work in Televison Post Production and I QC video all day. Seeing flash frames is baked into my DNA. Cheers
@@the_ambassador_ert it sure is. I had to look at that twice before I saw it haha!
Cedar Fair is going to file a lawsuit they aren’t getting the product they paid for
I had a question! What are the trim like looking pieces of track on the hills of some wooden coasters? I don’t believe they’re trim brakes but I’ve always wondered if they’re anti-roll back devices or something. Found towards the highest points of some hills on some woodies but not the main lift
They are antirollback mounts. I talk about them in the anti rollback video
I wonder if all 3 trains have the modification, or just one. I could see if it was just a test that they would have just modified one till they could machine the full replacement parts.
Good question
Something I've wondered for awhile now, does each coaster get its own set of mechanics? Or does one mechanic get assigned to just a few rides, or just a general park wide mechanic? Are woodies treated differently with staffing?
coasters typically share mechanics. a mechanic could open 3-18 rides in the morning depending on their area. woodies have a carpenter crew. at parks with multiple woodies the carpentry crew is split up to cover these.
Have you done a video on steel curtain?
No. I really have nothing for that one. Too much speculation.
Hey Ryan. Today at Oaks Amusemnt Park in Portland, OR there is a pendulum type ride that goes upside down and goes over instead of just the swinging like MaxAir and Delium. This ride called AtmosFEAR got stuck upside down for 30 minutes and the fire dept. had be called.
What would cause it to stop upside down? And should the computer be programmed to always return the gondola to the “Home” position to avoid stopping it upside down?
Boeing has in house on site NDTs… AND that’s why they are breaking down everywhere…
Had a question about LSMs. Is there a reason all of them are white? Could they not be finished in the same color as the track to blend for rides where you wouldn't want to have them seen? Like Hagrid's, for example.
I’m not 100%sure but……
White reflects solar radiation making outdoor stators run cooler. In Tron theirs are black. The coating is not paint it’s a heat sync compound. I believe it can be tinted but white is also better for inspection.
do you think that the trains sitting up higher than the original Dragster trains is throwing off the heart line enough to put too much force on the wheel carriers? many people who have gotten rides say that especially on the left side of the train you get thrown super hard when you go through that downward spiral. could that effect the integrity of the track over time?
I would think they have already scrutinized that in the design but never say never right!
I wonder if they’ll rename it to Top Thrill 3
maybe it it had to get pushed into 2025 for some reason.
that vertical support rib doesn't look like it's big enough to do the job
Yea but at the same time it’s some special material. So we will wait to see if it was THE problem or just A problem.
Almost midway through the season and their major ride they advertised the hell out of is still down 😂 what a joke
... I don't like the criticism of my rc tycoon coaster where the train falls off. its called the eliminator for a reason and YES that brick wall is supposed to be there.
Well that’s by design so it’s fine!
Another ridiculous intro that made me burst out loud with laughter
I try
Cycling with water dummies is going to resume tonight.
Should have just copied the original trains…
Or even just put a plate on the original for the LSM’s and been done with it
Original trains would've likely been too heavy for the track with the additional magnets required onboard
@@SuperCavaliersfan that's what I was guessing
Honestly they should cut their losses and just remove the ride rather than continuing to waste money on it.
Technically you are wrong, I have several degrees, including "Mech Eng", "Gear Design/Geometry", Machinist and CNC Programmer...managed machining, engine build, engineering for a major Nascar Team, Senior Engineer at "GM" and" Boeing", yes building vehicles and planes. The term "billet" is common today, and the "grade" of the "ALUMIIUM" is critical. T-6061 is most common and used endlessly, aerospace applications and race car applications relate to "7075", there is no "steel" involved". Majority of your aerostructures are '7075", there is no billet "steel". All current aerostructures are aluminum, not steel, again it's all about the grade of the material. The "stresses" involved on an aircraft, commercial and military exceed this ride...which I rode for app. 18 years...bearing "choice" for the application is critical, as well as the actual bearing manufacture. Yes, the actual shaft will be steel, and again the choice of steel is critical.... the actual wheel, "lighting" holes machined into them is critical....I've manu. components that include the moon and mars, with the extensive down time, it's a serious issue.
Wow that’s really interesting! So my experience is from other manufactures. (I’m just a mechanic) we purchased a billet housing made from aluminum and billet wheel carriers (they called steel). And the engineers at the time said you don’t typically weld on billet. That’s all I really know of the subject of billet. That’s a lot of info for sure. What’s your take on the whole gussets that popped up?