@@Pickuptrucktalk We might be even more screwed, Trump said he will not offer military protection to us because we have not been paying into NATO properly. And the buffoons we have voted in have played political games with military equipment contracts, instead of taking delivery of equipment. Our jets are 50 years old (can't shoot down a china weather balloon, US had to do that) and in the arctic we are very close to China and Russia. The Liberals canceled the F35s as an election issue, 65 planes for 9 billion was too much (big bad Harper), 2016 was the delivery. Now the same government have ordered 80 f35s for 19 billion, with only 4 planes for 2026. Almost double, and still no planes. Trudeau has done nothing but piss Trump off for domestic political gains. And now yes we certainly are screwed. I've never seen this doofus Trudeau so scared before after the election results came in. Should it be USAs job to offer military protection to Canada? That's a whole different conversation, but it appears some people have been taking that for granted.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Not really, most manufacturers deeply discount MSRPs in Canada vs US. Example, 2025 RAV4 Hybrid Limited in the US (all options) is $43965 before state taxes. In Canada, $50,590 which is a 15% premium. But the exchange rate right now is 40%+ premium. Toyota absorbs the difference.
My 2016 f150 xlt 2.7, 5.5 bed, fx4, sport appearance package. I had every option for a xlt but the big tank and sub woofer. Sticker was 52k. I bought for 41k. When i bought my 22 lightning, lariat extended range, 80k at sticker. But they had a 22 xlt like i had bought, just newer. It was 64k. And the tremor packages were 71k. I lifted etc my 16 so it was basically the same thing. Fwiw, i think the 2.7L is one of the best engines they have ever offered. In perfect driving conditions, 65 degrees, no wind, 55 mph, on a lift and off-road tires, i was clocking 29.8 mpg. I still regularly get 24 mpg. And it's still so powerful.
I ordered a 2025 XL Super Crew with 5.0, 4x4 and 6.5ft bed (157 wheelbase). Originally I ordered a 2024 in the same configuration but the sales rep by mistake sent the order in as the 145 wheelbase 5.5ft bed. I caught the mistake when the build for the 24 got scheduled. I'm dead set on getting the longer bed. Ended up having to re-order as a 25 since the vin on the 24 was created. I added the tow package in this order. The 24 XL would not allow the tow package with the 5.0 but the 25 does. I thought that was kind of odd. Also opted for the integrated tailgate step as well since they now offer it for the XL in 25.
Bought a new 25 Ram a couple of months ago. Traded in a 22 EcoBoost XLT. New truck came with a three thousand dollar premium package of gadgets. Just a lot of technology that no one will be able to repair. Going back to a simple F150 STX 2.7 EcoBoost next year.
I'm up to 76k Canadian with a 302a antimatter blue, sport appearance, 5 liter v8 4x4, bluecruise odds and ends. 2 grand more than my 'lectric and less features than my 23. Besides not being able to get bluecruise on a 23 xlt lightning in Canada. I'm sure it would be nice (especially being a v8), but I'm an employee and have zero write offs. Payments, fuel (6.36 a gallon here) all on me for 36k km driving a year. Build and price is free to play around with and that's as far as I'm going to go. They have improved the color and option combos available for the XLTs which is nice. And in my opinion price has basically stayed the same for 25.
I’ll be keeping my eye out for an XLT Powerboost similar to what you built, but without the max tow. I was between a Tundra and F150, but the Tundra is having way too many growing pains for me to justify it….and I’m a Toyota fanboy. My FIL’s 22 PB 7.2kw and his previous 2018 2.7 ecoboost have been fantastic trucks for his roof/gutter business with zero mechanical issues between them. Heck, the PB saved his butt a handful of times when his gas generator failed. He actually found it that the PB generator uses less fuel than his gas generator too.
I’m a Toyota fanboy too, really wanting the v8 tundra for reliability and longevity but the mpgs are terrible so I’m leaning ford 5.0 but something makes me want the 2.7
@ same here, I’m already getting 15mpg and the 5.7 Tundra wouldn’t be any better and F150’s ride so much better than the 2nd gen Tundra. I’d drive a 2.7 before going all in on a 5.0. It’s arguably the best engine. Awesome fuel economy, considered the most reliable and it’ll tow as good as the 5.0 but not quite as good as the 3.5. I’ll be curious to see how the gen 4 5.0 does with cylinder deactivation and oil pump belt (vs chain in previous gen 3 5.0) for longevity. My FIL sold his 18 2.7 F150 to his son and it has about 110k miles and it’s yet to have any component failure. Before he leveled and added larger tires on the 2.7, he was averaging 22-26mpg, in the Powerboost he’s getting about the same. Even with the level and oversized tires the 2.7 got about 20-22mpg.
@@cpftank09 my dad has the 5.7 v8 tundra, literally gets 12-14 mpg just daily driving with tools and whatnot in the cab and bed but towing it plummets to 8-10. He’s told me to not buy one and get the 5.0. I’ve done the math on it, giving the tundra 14.5 mpg vs ford 5.0 20 mpg driving 20k miles a year I’d save $550 -$650 per year it would be more with the 2.7. The 2.7 also has the oil pump belt, I’ve heard good takes on it from all the research I’ve done but still septical, not about it breaking but it flaking/pealing and clogging up the oil intake. I think ford creating the powerboost and making it a literal generator on wheels is genius, just hoping they’d do that to the 2.7!
@ ya, I was shocked they didn’t make the Powerboost with a 2.7. It’d probably get close to 30mpg without hyper-miling like some of the PB guys do. I love the sound of the 5.0 and had a 2012 5.0 F150. The good thing is, I don’t think k you can wrong with any of the options. It sounds like Ford will be making a Powerboost of some type in the F250 as well, which would be the ultimate contractors truck.
@@cpftank09 that’s exactly what I was thinking, 2.7 + powerboost I think it could easily get 25-30 mpgs. I’d definitely buy it. I dont think I could go wrong with either option either, 2020 5.0 to avoid oil consumption issues, less moving parts, more towing capability (won’t need it for a few years) and a tune to remove cyl deactivation and auto stop/start. But the 2.7 doesn’t seem to have hardly any issues so far. In the end I think maintenance is what will matter the most to making both engines last as long as possible. The research continues and which ever I can get the best deal on. I’ve always hoped that ford would introduce the f250 diesel with the powerboost, more power with better mpgs would be great for contractors/ fleet trucks. If it works as well as i hope they could dominate the market. Still wanting ford to bring back the 3.0l diesel in the f150. GMs the king there thought so prob not.
Anti-matter is still available; you have to go up in trim level. They had to cut down the available trims for the 5.0 in order to continue offering the 5.0 as an option at all thanks to the lovely gov't EPA requirements. I'm hunting a 5.0 myself to drop a supercharger in it and get some real power; Ford def looks promising.
Having a blast with the utility and family hauling ability of my '24 XLT Supercrew truck. Equipped with 302A, FX4 and Black Apperance package it looks so slick and modern for a truck. I have a 2.7L in it based on recommendations and it's more than enough for me. All that for around US$50K after Employee Pricing discount. Now I'm intrigued with the Powerboost just because I use mine more as a city truck.
Hey Tim,Nova Scotia Canada here....I'd buy the STX in SuperCab version with Fx4,6.5 ft bed .2.7 all the way.Interest rates are 0% at my local dealer on all 24 models at the moment. 67,000$ for an Stx with fx4 package here now approximately
I just ordered my f150 single cab 6.5 bed 4x4 with the 5.0. Came to $46,000. Can’t wait for it to be built! Do you know when the 2025 will start production? I can’t get a clear answer online, but the dealership said it will probably be like 4 months out.
@4:09 Of course the Lariet is $2235 less, does it come with real leather seats anymore just the fake stuff. Now you have to go up to the King Ranch or Platinum to get real leather.
2WD trucks are not only popular in the warm southern states. I live in Alberta, Canada, and I may be one of the few to still drive a 2WD truck (2016 Canyon) with a manual transmission. I want to turn it into a prerunner because I want a suspension that can handle huge potholes. I thought I was the only prerunner fan in Canada but a few weeks ago saw a prerunner with a full roll cage, 4-link rear end and two spare tires in the bed. A prerunner owner once said if you have enough horsepower you don't need four wheel drive.
I believe you are correct. ZL is not available anymore on the FordPass app. I do recall (like Tim said) when it was available and it was great. I wish Ford would have kept that capability.
I just bought a '24 Lariet 501 pkg, the reason the '25 price is going down because they are offering the 500 package again. I bought the '24 cause it still contains real leather and the key pad. Also the lariet includes power folding mirrors and Auto 4wd settings.
@@Perdido305 the windshield is smaller than other trucks I’ve owned so FOV is always on my mind, the remote start ends when you open the door so you have to start it again, rattles and wind noise from various places despite the 70k price tag and trim level, the AC is not the strongest from the factory, the $15/month subscription for certain features, it drives like a car this ones hard to describe but it just doesn’t ride like the RAMs and GMCs I’ve owned previously. Maybe it’s a body roll thing? The seats in lower trim like sr5 are super uncomfortable. Obviously the 100k engine failures and dealer techs installing a new crate engine and everything that goes with that. And more I can’t think of right now. And I know every modern truck has quality issues and pros and cons. There is also a lot I like about my truck. The good does outweigh the bad but at the price point we pay these days it’s not as easy to reconcile them.
I would buy a Cyber Truck if I wanted an f150 or 1500 truck. The price is comparable option for option. If towing long distances I would skip an f150/ 1500 and go to a ram 2500 with the Cummins.
Sure, I just priced out a Lariat f150 around $74k and a platinum around $86k. The cyber truck is around $82 with destination. For the Fords I selected hybrid fx4 on board power and tonneau cover. Cyber truck is just the base dual motor.
@ must just be me, but I don’t see them even at that price point comparable at all. I’d rather have a Ford with a real interior, in different colors and no concerns over range.
Understandable, everyone has different tastes. I like scifi, the cyber truck looks like the future. Range is no big deal for me. It has plenty of battery every morning when I get up. On long trips, super chargers are everywhere I go. And a plus, the cyber will power my whole house for a few days if the power goes out.
@@BigBilly7 you should watch the video of whistlingdiesel comparing the ford to the cybertruck. I’m not trying to offend you, but those 2 trucks are not even comparable…
Cloth seats and hybrid is a great combination. And you can get a column shifter in the XLT. I bought almost the exact configuration you built here a few months ago. Really happy with it so far.
Really bummed you can only get the "sport appearance package " on gray scale trucks now...atlas blue xlt is chrome only...🤦♂️ everything makes you go black only! Guess I'd go stx fx4 with a 5.0
Might as well just buy a lariat then pay 66k for an XLT , would probable have all those options you picked. In one of your last videos you said the powerboost hybrid had its own category and was the most unreliable truck made!
Stop kidding yourself. Not 1 OEM ever makes the base level of anything since Covid. You can’t get it because although they advertise it they never make them. They don’t make enough margin on the base level.
I just need to work 4 jobs in Canada to afford a new truck.
Yeah you guys in Canada get screwed.
It’s because the CDN dollar is lower than the US dollar.
We only need 2 jobs in the USA.
@@Pickuptrucktalk We might be even more screwed, Trump said he will not offer military protection to us because we have not been paying into NATO properly. And the buffoons we have voted in have played political games with military equipment contracts, instead of taking delivery of equipment. Our jets are 50 years old (can't shoot down a china weather balloon, US had to do that) and in the arctic we are very close to China and Russia. The Liberals canceled the F35s as an election issue, 65 planes for 9 billion was too much (big bad Harper), 2016 was the delivery. Now the same government have ordered 80 f35s for 19 billion, with only 4 planes for 2026. Almost double, and still no planes. Trudeau has done nothing but piss Trump off for domestic political gains. And now yes we certainly are screwed. I've never seen this doofus Trudeau so scared before after the election results came in. Should it be USAs job to offer military protection to Canada? That's a whole different conversation, but it appears some people have been taking that for granted.
@@Pickuptrucktalk Not really, most manufacturers deeply discount MSRPs in Canada vs US. Example, 2025 RAV4 Hybrid Limited in the US (all options) is $43965 before state taxes. In Canada, $50,590 which is a 15% premium. But the exchange rate right now is 40%+ premium. Toyota absorbs the difference.
The best Ford truck to own is the one you already have in the driveway that is PAID FOR!
Good luck with that!!!!
@@TomStarcevich-fb3qo😂😂😂😂😂
My 2016 f150 xlt 2.7, 5.5 bed, fx4, sport appearance package. I had every option for a xlt but the big tank and sub woofer. Sticker was 52k. I bought for 41k.
When i bought my 22 lightning, lariat extended range, 80k at sticker. But they had a 22 xlt like i had bought, just newer. It was 64k. And the tremor packages were 71k.
I lifted etc my 16 so it was basically the same thing.
Fwiw, i think the 2.7L is one of the best engines they have ever offered. In perfect driving conditions, 65 degrees, no wind, 55 mph, on a lift and off-road tires, i was clocking 29.8 mpg. I still regularly get 24 mpg. And it's still so powerful.
Do you have any experience with the 5.0? Looking for reliability and longevity, leaning 5.0 but something makes me want the 2.7
Love my 2016 2.7l FX4 with towing package. Been flawless since I've had her.
I ordered a 2025 XL Super Crew with 5.0, 4x4 and 6.5ft bed (157 wheelbase). Originally I ordered a 2024 in the same configuration but the sales rep by mistake sent the order in as the 145 wheelbase 5.5ft bed. I caught the mistake when the build for the 24 got scheduled. I'm dead set on getting the longer bed. Ended up having to re-order as a 25 since the vin on the 24 was created. I added the tow package in this order. The 24 XL would not allow the tow package with the 5.0 but the 25 does. I thought that was kind of odd. Also opted for the integrated tailgate step as well since they now offer it for the XL in 25.
Bought a new 25 Ram a couple of months ago. Traded in a 22 EcoBoost XLT.
New truck came with a three thousand dollar premium package of gadgets. Just a lot of technology that no one will be able to repair. Going back to a simple F150 STX 2.7 EcoBoost next year.
For me, it's the new lariat, with the 501 option package. It's 85k here in canada, plus the 7k for maintenance and extended warranty
I’m enjoying my 23 powerboost. It was a service loaner bought it last November with a giant discount.
I'm up to 76k Canadian with a 302a antimatter blue, sport appearance, 5 liter v8 4x4, bluecruise odds and ends. 2 grand more than my 'lectric and less features than my 23. Besides not being able to get bluecruise on a 23 xlt lightning in Canada. I'm sure it would be nice (especially being a v8), but I'm an employee and have zero write offs. Payments, fuel (6.36 a gallon here) all on me for 36k km driving a year. Build and price is free to play around with and that's as far as I'm going to go. They have improved the color and option combos available for the XLTs which is nice. And in my opinion price has basically stayed the same for 25.
I’ll be keeping my eye out for an XLT Powerboost similar to what you built, but without the max tow. I was between a Tundra and F150, but the Tundra is having way too many growing pains for me to justify it….and I’m a Toyota fanboy. My FIL’s 22 PB 7.2kw and his previous 2018 2.7 ecoboost have been fantastic trucks for his roof/gutter business with zero mechanical issues between them. Heck, the PB saved his butt a handful of times when his gas generator failed. He actually found it that the PB generator uses less fuel than his gas generator too.
I’m a Toyota fanboy too, really wanting the v8 tundra for reliability and longevity but the mpgs are terrible so I’m leaning ford 5.0 but something makes me want the 2.7
@ same here, I’m already getting 15mpg and the 5.7 Tundra wouldn’t be any better and F150’s ride so much better than the 2nd gen Tundra. I’d drive a 2.7 before going all in on a 5.0. It’s arguably the best engine. Awesome fuel economy, considered the most reliable and it’ll tow as good as the 5.0 but not quite as good as the 3.5. I’ll be curious to see how the gen 4 5.0 does with cylinder deactivation and oil pump belt (vs chain in previous gen 3 5.0) for longevity. My FIL sold his 18 2.7 F150 to his son and it has about 110k miles and it’s yet to have any component failure. Before he leveled and added larger tires on the 2.7, he was averaging 22-26mpg, in the Powerboost he’s getting about the same. Even with the level and oversized tires the 2.7 got about 20-22mpg.
@@cpftank09 my dad has the 5.7 v8 tundra, literally gets 12-14 mpg just daily driving with tools and whatnot in the cab and bed but towing it plummets to 8-10. He’s told me to not buy one and get the 5.0. I’ve done the math on it, giving the tundra 14.5 mpg vs ford 5.0 20 mpg driving 20k miles a year I’d save $550 -$650 per year it would be more with the 2.7. The 2.7 also has the oil pump belt, I’ve heard good takes on it from all the research I’ve done but still septical, not about it breaking but it flaking/pealing and clogging up the oil intake. I think ford creating the powerboost and making it a literal generator on wheels is genius, just hoping they’d do that to the 2.7!
@ ya, I was shocked they didn’t make the Powerboost with a 2.7. It’d probably get close to 30mpg without hyper-miling like some of the PB guys do. I love the sound of the 5.0 and had a 2012 5.0 F150. The good thing is, I don’t think k you can wrong with any of the options. It sounds like Ford will be making a Powerboost of some type in the F250 as well, which would be the ultimate contractors truck.
@@cpftank09 that’s exactly what I was thinking, 2.7 + powerboost I think it could easily get 25-30 mpgs. I’d definitely buy it. I dont think I could go wrong with either option either, 2020 5.0 to avoid oil consumption issues, less moving parts, more towing capability (won’t need it for a few years) and a tune to remove cyl deactivation and auto stop/start. But the 2.7 doesn’t seem to have hardly any issues so far. In the end I think maintenance is what will matter the most to making both engines last as long as possible. The research continues and which ever I can get the best deal on.
I’ve always hoped that ford would introduce the f250 diesel with the powerboost, more power with better mpgs would be great for contractors/ fleet trucks. If it works as well as i hope they could dominate the market. Still wanting ford to bring back the 3.0l diesel in the f150. GMs the king there thought so prob not.
Anti-matter is still available; you have to go up in trim level. They had to cut down the available trims for the 5.0 in order to continue offering the 5.0 as an option at all thanks to the lovely gov't EPA requirements. I'm hunting a 5.0 myself to drop a supercharger in it and get some real power; Ford def looks promising.
Having a blast with the utility and family hauling ability of my '24 XLT Supercrew truck. Equipped with 302A, FX4 and Black Apperance package it looks so slick and modern for a truck. I have a 2.7L in it based on recommendations and it's more than enough for me. All that for around US$50K after Employee Pricing discount. Now I'm intrigued with the Powerboost just because I use mine more as a city truck.
Hey Tim,Nova Scotia Canada here....I'd buy the STX in SuperCab version with Fx4,6.5 ft bed .2.7 all the way.Interest rates are 0% at my local dealer on all 24 models at the moment. 67,000$ for an Stx with fx4 package here now approximately
Stx is only available in supercedes with 5.5 bed.
@willpayne5663 it is available in Canada in SuperCab with 6.5 ft box
I just ordered my f150 single cab 6.5 bed 4x4 with the 5.0. Came to $46,000. Can’t wait for it to be built! Do you know when the 2025 will start production? I can’t get a clear answer online, but the dealership said it will probably be like 4 months out.
@@anthony3290 that’s a unique build. I bet it is going to be at least 4 months.
ford is the only one who still makes a V8 Single cab short bed
I ordered in 2021 ram 1500 classic tradesman quad cab 4x4 v6 with lots of extras 40 k with a extended warranty and state taxes wow prices are crazy
@4:09 Of course the Lariet is $2235 less, does it come with real leather seats anymore just the fake stuff. Now you have to go up to the King Ranch or Platinum to get real leather.
2WD trucks are not only popular in the warm southern states. I live in Alberta, Canada, and I may be one of the few to still drive a 2WD truck (2016 Canyon) with a manual transmission. I want to turn it into a prerunner because I want a suspension that can handle huge potholes. I thought I was the only prerunner fan in Canada but a few weeks ago saw a prerunner with a full roll cage, 4-link rear end and two spare tires in the bed. A prerunner owner once said if you have enough horsepower you don't need four wheel drive.
Best thing you said was in regards to the price after adding a few items price is getting ridiculous
Ford cut a lot of the features from FordPass including zone lighting, at least I can’t figure out how to get to it if it’s still there.
I believe you are correct. ZL is not available anymore on the FordPass app. I do recall (like Tim said) when it was available and it was great. I wish Ford would have kept that capability.
I want electric seat adjust on both the driver and passenger. Other than that I don't care about the other stuff. XLT is just right.
Ford has so much inventory on lots now. Giving pretty big discounts.
They are finally getting fully stocked again IMO.
Bot 3.0 gmc 1500 with max trailer after watching your channel. I love it.
I just bought a '24 Lariet 501 pkg, the reason the '25 price is going down because they are offering the 500 package again. I bought the '24 cause it still contains real leather and the key pad. Also the lariet includes power folding mirrors and Auto 4wd settings.
what motor did you get?
ME; f150 STX V-8 SUPER CAB 4X4 IN BLUE
2023 Toyota Tundra 1794 in Army Green. Like the truck, but has a few things that really bug me and will ultimately cause me to sell it down the road.
Can I ask, what’s bugging you about your Tundra?
@@Perdido305 the windshield is smaller than other trucks I’ve owned so FOV is always on my mind, the remote start ends when you open the door so you have to start it again, rattles and wind noise from various places despite the 70k price tag and trim level, the AC is not the strongest from the factory, the $15/month subscription for certain features, it drives like a car this ones hard to describe but it just doesn’t ride like the RAMs and GMCs I’ve owned previously. Maybe it’s a body roll thing? The seats in lower trim like sr5 are super uncomfortable. Obviously the 100k engine failures and dealer techs installing a new crate engine and everything that goes with that. And more I can’t think of right now.
And I know every modern truck has quality issues and pros and cons. There is also a lot I like about my truck. The good does outweigh the bad but at the price point we pay these days it’s not as easy to reconcile them.
@@jdcooper9
Thank you for your comments. Good to know.
I would buy a Cyber Truck if I wanted an f150 or 1500 truck. The price is comparable option for option. If towing long distances I would skip an f150/ 1500 and go to a ram 2500 with the Cummins.
Price is comparable. Huh. Walk me through that one please.
Sure, I just priced out a Lariat f150 around $74k and a platinum around $86k. The cyber truck is around $82 with destination. For the Fords I selected hybrid fx4 on board power and tonneau cover. Cyber truck is just the base dual motor.
@ must just be me, but I don’t see them even at that price point comparable at all. I’d rather have a Ford with a real interior, in different colors and no concerns over range.
Understandable, everyone has different tastes. I like scifi, the cyber truck looks like the future. Range is no big deal for me. It has plenty of battery every morning when I get up. On long trips, super chargers are everywhere I go. And a plus, the cyber will power my whole house for a few days if the power goes out.
@@BigBilly7 you should watch the video of whistlingdiesel comparing the ford to the cybertruck. I’m not trying to offend you, but those 2 trucks are not even comparable…
Hybrid resale value is lower. But doesn’t matter if you lease the car
Huh. I’ve never seen that data myself. Link?
They removed the option for the integrated brake controller you tried to pair it with the 2.7L V6.
Cloth seats and hybrid is a great combination. And you can get a column shifter in the XLT. I bought almost the exact configuration you built here a few months ago. Really happy with it so far.
Agate blake sucks. I saw anti mater blue on 3/4 ton, maybe trim dependant?
I wonder how a 3/4 ton conpares in price?
Pretty comparable in price. Not comparable in most other ways like ride quality, features and overall size of the truck.
The new F150 looks a lot cheaper than the previous model, an 80k Tremor looks like a base work truck from the front.
2.7 vs 5.0 for reliability and longevity? Thinking 5.0? Something makes me keep thinking about the 2.7…
Any word on when then25’s will be built? I have a platinum in order but haven’t heard a timeline when production will start.
They are being built now and are on dealership lots. I ordered one on Oct 26 and just got notified it is being built the week of Dec 16.
850 950 60 months entry level right
Really bummed you can only get the "sport appearance package " on gray scale trucks now...atlas blue xlt is chrome only...🤦♂️ everything makes you go black only! Guess I'd go stx fx4 with a 5.0
Stx 5.0 single cab would be my choice I think you can 2023 tremor for about xlt price 🙃
Might as well just buy a lariat then pay 66k for an XLT , would probable have all those options you picked. In one of your last videos you said the powerboost hybrid had its own category and was the most unreliable truck made!
I would be scared to buy anything newer than a 2010
so a ford engineer said the starter not going be a problem lol
I have 138k on my 2016 and my son has 165k on his 2018. Never an issue.
🤣
Assuming it won't get recalled 😂
You can build a 2wd with 5.0 for just under 40.
Stop kidding yourself. Not 1 OEM ever makes the base level of anything since Covid. You can’t get it because although they advertise it they never make them. They don’t make enough margin on the base level.