The table has turned. They were all ripping you off not all that long ago and now they are starving. Karma is a powerful thing. So I don't feel sorry for them.
Jeep dealership in July: offered me a new Gladiator Sport S for $54k, no frills, no conversation or haggling 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂 Same Jeep dealer two months ago: sends me an offer (that I accepted) on a new Gladiator for $33k, plus $2,500 more for my trade-in, plus refunded my brake work, plus threw-in a soft top, plus a free year of Sirius XM, plus free Gorilla Glass and Sierra wheels upgrades and 7 free oil changes and tire rotations.
From what I see here in Texas seems that white women with a nose ring age 21-45 seem to be buying this “jeep” junk. They are laughable thinking they’re cool driving a jeep.😂😂😂😂
$80,000 - $100,000 ... three weeks later, it needs warranty repairs ... three MONTHS later, they STILL can't fix it !! .... yeah, that's the line i want to stand in
First off, why buy anything now? I will ride a moped before I buy another car at this point. Second, their management is impotent for letting that go on.
I work in automotive lending for a large Credit Union, business is really down for the dealerships. We have a few women in my dept who worked in the offices at large dealerships, they talk sometimes about how badly they were treated by the finance guys, even in good times. Hard sales, all about the money, get as much money out of people as you can with bogus products and warranties they dont need; dent and ding, windshield, tire and wheel, maintenance contracts, deprectiation protection contract. All this besides the Extended Warranty contract and GAP ins. contract. It is a nasty business even in good times.
I still think it's BS how jeeps and trucks became luxury rides. It's stupid. Just keep to what made them marketable in the first place. Trucks and jeeps are a joke today. And they can set and rot.
Buy used, or better yet, maintain what you are currently driving. Pride yourselves on running that odometer up as high as you can rather than having a new vehicle.
Sometimes I think about upgrading my 15 year Mazda so I can get modern safety features like a backup camera or blind spot monitoring. Certainly better in crash tests too. But it runs fine at 173K miles
Working people are underpaid and they loose it sometimes.Personally I would just walk away,mind my own business and let them deal with this guy.Life is easier when you don’t get involved in others lives.
I am classified as a high net worth individual, yet I only buy low mileage used cars, and tend to keep them for many years. Just because I have money doesn’t mean I want to be foolish with it.
I sold Toyota and Chevy for 3 years before I left to be a diesel mechanic. Sales is a very tough business to be in especially with greedy management that show favoritism. I believe this story for sure.
The guy who tried to screw me on a ram I ordered and paid up front in full. Well he's sold his house, him and his wife have sold their cars, and he's a DJ at night working a C-store during the day. I have a hard time feeling bad for him when he tried to screw me out of 14k
They’re at their senses, unfortunately. If you look up what these cars cost in 1990 or whatever year, and then take that number, and plug it in to an inflation calculator, I guarantee you’ll see that the numbers are almost identical to what inflation calculator says. It’s not simply “prices going up”. It’s your dollars value going down and losing value.
I understand dollar going down. I preach that to people all the time. Higher the debt goes, lower the dollar goes. But, maybe they could have some base model vehicles, without all the blue tooth, super fancy stereos, sunroofs, and junk like that. And they don’t have to have so much electronic sensors. Nowadays they build cars like rocket ships. It ain’t necessary.
I’ve done that it’s 100% not the case. Jeep Wrangler Sport automatic was $12,431 new in 1990. That equates to $29,569 today. Their MSRP is $39,990 before destination today.
@@dyates6380my sister bought a new Chrysler avenger in 07. That thing broke down left and right a dozen times in 2 years and she wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary to it. Needless to say.. dodge isn't a good brand at all.
@@bigshooter11000 Absolute the worst vehicle I have ever owned was a 04 Dodge Ram . That I purchased new off the lot , the vehicle didn’t last four years , more problems than a math book .
I have no sympathy for the auto makers and their dealers after the things they've willfully done to the consumers over the years. This time their blatant greed caught up with them.
you went in for a car, and got a show at no extra charge. Car salesman are barely making it, and strippers are also barely making it, same reason...lack of customers.
Used cars are going to be worse.. People are keeping their cars longer, and repair costs have increased, so used cars are also going downhill.. Theyre also overpriced, as a scarce resource
Went into a furniture store years ago before covid. I wanted to look around to see what styles were available for a living room set. A salesman pestered me the whole time. I told him if he gave me his card i would but from him but it was probably not going to be today. It takes me time to make big expensive decisions. He proceeded to cuss me out for not buying today. He said "this is how i pay my bills, buddy..." Years later i still can't understand the level of stupidity behind that salesmans thinking. Alot of weird people in this world.
Why don’t people realize that the extremely high cost to produce Electric Vehicles has been passed onto Gas Vehicle MSRP? This is what happens when supply really exceeds demand and the government thinks they know what the people “need”
No they don't want 20k cars. They want 60k cars with 20k price tags. Thouse days are done. People can keep making all the doom and gloom videos about this all they want. Thouse days are gone. And these prices are here to stay.
I set up a test drive for a ford van, we use them for work and there was the possibility of buying more than one. I get to the lot and a sales guy that I wasn’t working with tried to jump the sale. The guy I was working with saw me talking to this guy and came sprinting out there. What came next was a 10 minute argument between the two that nearly came to blows. I didn’t get the van or even take the test drive.
Dealers were shitting in tall cotton during covid - But people are beginning to realize that today's Cars and Trucks barely hold up - Check engine lights all the time - More plastic components that fail - I'll stick with the 90's Cars . . .
Your comment that any car can be sold is only true at the right price. You can move inventory by slashing prices, but while you recover some money, you will also take a loss on every unit you sell. A lot of dealerships are zombies right now and they will go out of business inevitably. The salesman screaming was unprofessional but I understand his desperation.
Two times i went in to test drive vehicles. First time, the salesman got so pissed off that i would not buy the crapped out VW Jetta, he called me when i returned to work screaming curse words at me for wasting his time, went on tirad for at lest 5 min, hung up on him. The second time tested Ford Escape, when they got me in the room to talk costs, i said i needed to think about it, wasnt sure that was the vehicle for me. He called me dirty names and jumped across the table at me, the other men there had to pull him away. Never again look at new cars, or go to a dealer. Rotten to the core.
I have absolutely no sympathy for any salesman who's been working since before 2022. People were getting completely ripped off all over the place in '22 and sales people made hand over fist. This is why I happily drive a 1999 Mitsubishi, bare basic and completely paid off for years. Buy a pre-2020 car while you can, and take extremely strict care of it. You'll thank me later.
Ha, no inventory and pre-owned priced to high to get solid loans. Salesmen making money in the industry now hand over fist is a rare exception, not the norm. Was there and left before the chip restriction really hit and never looked back.
I am a lifelong Jeep owner. I have owned 4 Cherokees (XJ), One Grand Cherokee (WJ) and 1 wrangler (YJ) and I have two issues with the current offerings of Jeep: 1) reliability- they are too complex to last (especially with a turbo 4 cylinder) and too difficult to repair when the do break down) and 2) price. This one is mainly self explanatory. When the average Wrangler or Grand Cherokee is twice as expensive as it was in 2019, and the regular Cherokee isn't made anymore..Stellantis has made sure that I am out of the market for a new one.
There were a lot of stupid people paying those crazy MSRP prices but they are gone..either their cars got repossessed OR they can't qualify for a loan any longer...same thing with C8 Corvettes..they are sitting on the lots not selling..the supply of low IQ with wants bigger than their bank accounts are starting to dissappear leaving dealers struggling.
You kept cool and did the right thing to give the calm salesman some helpful advice and that’s to think about moving on. Everybody loses with Stelantis. Prices too high, buyers cant afford it, Stellantis firm on prices, sales people cant make money.
Not the main point of this video but this country is so divided in terms of the haves and the have nots. How many people have 60 grand for a new pickup? Wages have not come close to keeping up with the cost of everything. Hell, in the 70's I was a musician and since I don't work on cars and was traveling the country (my ride had to be reliable) I bought brand new Dodge "Maxivans" - the extra long ones in 1973, 1975, and 1978. Those things were about 6 grand. I look at these prices and can't figure out who the hell's got that kinda money to burn on a short term investment - something that will be worth 10 grand in 5 years, and, 3 or 4 grand in 15 years - and be crushed up to make an end table in 18 years or something. If you're part of the 20-percent of people who are actively in the stock market you've gotten rich over the last 12 years - but that leaves the rest of the population screwed.
I'm sorry but I do not feel sorry for sales people at these car dealerships. They have been ripping people off for decades and now they wanna cry that they're not able sell their crappy overpriced cars..boohoo
One of my best friends that I have been friends with since 2005 started working at a dealership in 2016 as a salesman, and all of a sudden he was making all kinds of money and flaunting it on social media. He bought a huge house, new cars, got married, had kids, started talking about how he was investing all his money... it was starting to upset me because I was not making nearly as much money, and it was really unfair in my eyes because he was a useless person. He had no skills or talents except being abnormally motivated. He would always call me and tell me how much he was making, send me pics of his paychecks and tell me to go work with him but I never did because I don't like large corporate working environments. I just can't do that shit. Anyway, in 2020 the the pandemic kicked off, people were getting all these stimulus checks and the ones that were still working had all that extra cash, so they started buying new cars and trading up. He started making even more money, while many of us were really starting to struggle. He was flaunting stacks of cash and I was getting so pissed off. In 2022, he made even more and we stopped talking because I was disgusted. Fast forward to June 2024.... he starts sending me texts that he was struggling, they were laying people off, he lost a ton of money on crypto, and he had to sell his house, sell one of his cars (a $100,000 Audi) and his wife had to trade in her car ($150,000 Mercedes) for a Dodge minivan, and he doesn't post on social media anymore, he doesn't call me or text me, he doesn't answer my calls anymore or anything. What's sad is that I love the dude, we went through so much shit together as friends, and he offered me a job with him, but I can honestly say that I don't feel bad for him. In fact, it kind of makes me satisfied to be honest because I truly feel that the industry all deserves what is happening to them. They all thought they were going to rip us off and then live like kings and queens forever.
Just think how much land you could buy for 60,000 dollars and will last forever. These 60,000 dollars vehicles are good for maybe 10 years then time to buy another one.
I don't understand who they think they are selling a 50k jeeps to. Most people don't even come close to making 50k a year and if they do make 50k they don't after taxes. You need to make well over 100k to be able to comfortably afford a 50k vehicle.
For individuals it is more like $60k and household is $80k. But yeah, we have zero debt (own free and clear), an income of $250k with a mid seven figure net worth and just bought our first new car in 18 years and it was $31k. Frequently financing expensive new cars will quickly make most earners in this country broke.
Word. I’m in my late 40’s. Our household income is around 200k. Between my wife and I we have bought exactly one brand new car, a $30k civic Si. I don’t know who the hell is buying 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, $100,000 vehicles. That’s nuts.
Something similar happened to me at a Fort Worth Dodge Jeep chrysler. I was interested in trading in my Grand Cherokee for a Wrangler so stopped in the dealership I pass daily on my commute. They were nice picked on out and was told to keep it for a week and I did keep it a week. Found out im not a jeep wrangler person I like the JGC better. So go back in had a few people walking around shopping and go to the sales person office. I hand the guy the keys he says hold on goes up to the perch where the guys looking down on everyone working deals. The guy up there stands up and screams...what does he not like about this deal he kept the jeep all week we are not a car rental place....i was like wtheck...so the sales guy comes back and says im sorry that guy is a jerk...and i just said please give me the keys to my jeep. the other guy comes over and the two start arguing over me not taking their offer. the sales guy up and quits right there...i had my keys went outside and the former sales guy come over talking trash about the guy...it was crazy...
I remember taking one of our fleet vehicles in for a recall at a Stelantis dealer. The service writer calmly asked me for a job. They reap what they sow. No different from a Harley Davidson dealer.
Yes the salesman was unprofessional. That aside, I think part of the problem is that automakers convinced people that they need big pick ups and suvs to commute and run errands in and then charge ridiculous prices for them. Not even going to mention the current economy.
Walk out. If the dealership can’t control their staff how can they take care of you. I would have found and told the manager and told them this directly
Buy your car when it’s two years old. Maximum depreciation has already happened and then you can just trade it in every three to four years. Just get a two year old car with low miles. I learned this from the cfo of a bank.
I've got 2 naturally aspirated vehicle's one has a a 3.0 l v6 and the other have a 5.7 iforce v8 both are conservative engines that can stretch gas depending on how you drive em
I used to buy a new truck every 3 years whether I needed it or not. I decided to stop buying new cars or stepping onto dealership Lots in 2009 . Best decision I've ever made. I hope they all go out of business.
The CEOs of the American car companies have changed the business model. Now it's much fewer vehicles being sold but at very high prices. This really hurts the dealerships. NO ONE is selling these days, who wants to pay 110 grand for a pickup or a Jeep Rubicon??? Does not matter how aggressive you are as a salesman, all over the US these vehicles just aren't selling no matter who the salesman is.
Unfortunately the auto sales industry has promoted and condoned this kind of ruthless cut throat behavior. With the insane prices and hardly any sales occurring they're turning on each other.
You obviously know nothing about sales. The manager may very well have been showing favoritism to a certain salesman. It's not an excuse for the salesman flipping out but there could be more to it than just a salesman being a poor sport about not getting a customer.
Thank you for supporting a veteran. I would have exited the building, who knows how far of that would have gone. He obviously couldn't take it anymore. No excuses. I hope he gets the help he needs.
I'm satisfied with my 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limted ... it's EVERYTHING THAT I NEED !!! They can keep their OVER PRICED new vehicles ....... And IF people "stop buying" the "over priced" crap, they will be forced to "lower" their RIDICULOUS MSRP on the vehicles !!!!
Basically, I think a country's economy depending on car sales is wrong. Cars are supposed to be owned for 10-15 years. How would the industry manage to find that many new customers who are willing to buy expensive vehicles every year?
@@glennbeadshaw727 My gen 2 ram has over 250k miles mostly used for towing and hasn’t skipped a beat, and my 3rd gen gladiator hasn’t had one problem yet. Diesel in the Midwest is $3 a gallon, and I’m averaging close to 30mpg on the highway when I’m not towing. I wouldn’t even buy a jeep with a 3.6 mini van engine, I needed real torque power and mpg.
We need more $20,000-$25,000 cars. No one can afford the vehicles already in the pipeline.
I’ll be making some more videos about that
@@revnation_auto Don't waste your time the other 30 channels doing the same thing have already said it.
The table has turned. They were all ripping you off not all that long ago and now they are starving. Karma is a powerful thing. So I don't feel sorry for them.
Sales people for Stellantis brands need to find a new job yesterday. Stellantis is done for. Too late to fix it.
Stellantis done and dusted...
Chrysler, Dodge, Ram, and Jeep aren't going anywhere. Alfa, who knows or cares?
Sales “parasites”
Agreed 😂
The Stellantis CEO ruined his company by price gouging people - and they still haven't fired him.
I wouldn’t pay more than $50k for any Jeep. The $100k Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392 is ridiculous.
No one wants expensive garbage.
Jeep dealership in July: offered me a new Gladiator Sport S for $54k, no frills, no conversation or haggling 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
Same Jeep dealer two months ago: sends me an offer (that I accepted) on a new Gladiator for $33k, plus $2,500 more for my trade-in, plus refunded my brake work, plus threw-in a soft top, plus a free year of Sirius XM, plus free Gorilla Glass and Sierra wheels upgrades and 7 free oil changes and tire rotations.
My primary car is a 2003 Toyota Avalon; it’s been paid off for almost two decades. I am so glad that have mainly bypassed the stress of car buying.
Who buys a Jeep? They are garbage.
People who will pay obscene money for a useless vehicle to be part of an annoying subculture.
From what I see here in Texas seems that white women with a nose ring age 21-45 seem to be buying this “jeep” junk. They are laughable thinking they’re cool driving a jeep.😂😂😂😂
Local Nissan dealer marks up all vehicles $5k with stupid etching and security, you don't want.
$80,000 - $100,000 ... three weeks later, it needs warranty repairs ... three MONTHS later, they STILL can't fix it !! .... yeah, that's the line i want to stand in
America is starving as well.. American's can not afford to purchase such poor quality automobiles.
Where's my guy with the 440 credit score trying to buy a $150k hellcat widebody?
When you screw customers by adding 30k to the MSRP, you get what you deserve! Any dealer that jacked up the prices deserves to go out of business 😮.
Dealers didn't jack u the prices, the CEO's, CFO's and manufacturers did. They made the decision to turn every vehicle into a 'luxury' ride.
Why don't I feel sorry for the same people who stole from me for the last 30 years.
First off, why buy anything now? I will ride a moped before I buy another car at this point. Second, their management is impotent for letting that go on.
I have absolutely zero pity for dealerships or the salesmen that work for them. Crooked bastards.
My advice to anyone in the auto dealership sales biz , learn a trade. The sales paradigm we've known is going to die.
Karma to the dealerships
I work in automotive lending for a large Credit Union, business is really down for the dealerships. We have a few women in my dept who worked in the offices at large dealerships, they talk sometimes about how badly they were treated by the finance guys, even in good times. Hard sales, all about the money, get as much money out of people as you can with bogus products and warranties they dont need; dent and ding, windshield, tire and wheel, maintenance contracts, deprectiation protection contract. All this besides the Extended Warranty contract and GAP ins. contract. It is a nasty business even in good times.
Too expensive, unreliable. Game over.
Salesmen are NOT our friends..don’t forget that..don’t fall for their kindness..or in this case their aggressiveness..it’s fake and driven by money
I still think it's BS how jeeps and trucks became luxury rides. It's stupid. Just keep to what made them marketable in the first place. Trucks and jeeps are a joke today. And they can set and rot.
Not worth reporting, just leave.
Buy used, or better yet, maintain what you are currently driving. Pride yourselves on running that odometer up as high as you can rather than having a new vehicle.
Who drives a used car? Everyone!
Agreed but sometimes RUST
Sometimes I think about upgrading my 15 year Mazda so I can get modern safety features like a backup camera or blind spot monitoring. Certainly better in crash tests too. But it runs fine at 173K miles
inflation plus greed equals me keeping my 2015 truck and 2001 mercury grand marquis.
Working people are underpaid and they loose it sometimes.Personally I would just walk away,mind my own business and let them deal with this guy.Life is easier when you don’t get involved in others lives.
I guess they shouldn't have ripped people off for the past 4 years.
I think you mean 40.
I am classified as a high net worth individual, yet I only buy low mileage used cars, and tend to keep them for many years. Just because I have money doesn’t mean I want to be foolish with it.
How did you acquire your money
That's why you have money😂
In a few years we are all going to be like that salesman.
I sold Toyota and Chevy for 3 years before I left to be a diesel mechanic. Sales is a very tough business to be in especially with greedy management that show favoritism. I believe this story for sure.
Great comment 👍
They need to go back to the old prices before anyone buys anything!!!
The guy who tried to screw me on a ram I ordered and paid up front in full. Well he's sold his house, him and his wife have sold their cars, and he's a DJ at night working a C-store during the day.
I have a hard time feeling bad for him when he tried to screw me out of 14k
Most consumers are happy a dealership is starving, if you stop STEALING, you wouldn't starve.
I wish that nobody, not 1 person would buy that overpriced junk. Then the car company’s would come back to their senses.
They’re at their senses, unfortunately. If you look up what these cars cost in 1990 or whatever year, and then take that number, and plug it in to an inflation calculator, I guarantee you’ll see that the numbers are almost identical to what inflation calculator says. It’s not simply “prices going up”. It’s your dollars value going down and losing value.
I understand dollar going down. I preach that to people all the time. Higher the debt goes, lower the dollar goes. But, maybe they could have some base model vehicles, without all the blue tooth, super fancy stereos, sunroofs, and junk like that. And they don’t have to have so much electronic sensors. Nowadays they build cars like rocket ships. It ain’t necessary.
I’ve done that it’s 100% not the case. Jeep Wrangler Sport automatic was $12,431 new in 1990. That equates to $29,569 today. Their MSRP is $39,990 before destination today.
Rule #1; never step foot on a Dodge stealership, or buy a Dodge product.
I've been adhering to that "rule" for twenty seven years now, when I was stupid enough to buy a Dodge. Never, ever again. Pure garbage.
@@dyates6380my sister bought a new Chrysler avenger in 07. That thing broke down left and right a dozen times in 2 years and she wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary to it. Needless to say.. dodge isn't a good brand at all.
@@bigshooter11000 Absolute the worst vehicle I have ever owned was a 04 Dodge Ram . That I purchased new off the lot , the vehicle didn’t last four years , more problems than a math book .
I have no sympathy for the auto makers and their dealers after the things they've willfully done to the consumers over the years. This time their blatant greed caught up with them.
First of all anyone that pays 60 grand plus for a jeep has inherited too much money 😅
you went in for a car, and got a show at no extra charge. Car salesman are barely making it, and strippers are also barely making it, same reason...lack of customers.
I wonder if he was hungry when the dealers were overcharging for cars between 2020 and 2022?
Im starving after ripping off customers for 20 years,,,,subway hiring
Want my advice? Dont buy new cars anymore. Buy used cars and let other people take that hit.
Used cars are going to be worse.. People are keeping their cars longer, and repair costs have increased, so used cars are also going downhill.. Theyre also overpriced, as a scarce resource
Went into a furniture store years ago before covid. I wanted to look around to see what styles were available for a living room set.
A salesman pestered me the whole time. I told him if he gave me his card i would but from him but it was probably not going to be today. It takes me time to make big expensive decisions. He proceeded to cuss me out for not buying today. He said "this is how i pay my bills, buddy..."
Years later i still can't understand the level of stupidity behind that salesmans thinking. Alot of weird people in this world.
A year or two ago salesmen wouldn't even call a customer back. Now they are fighting over any up that walks on the lot. How times have changed.
Bet they didn't save all that extra cash from the good times
Why don’t people realize that the extremely high cost to produce Electric Vehicles has been passed onto Gas Vehicle MSRP?
This is what happens when supply really exceeds demand and the government thinks they know what the people “need”
Nope. Not how it works. Econ 101
@@dsan2509 you mean the massive tax credit they give to EV buyers doesn't distort the market WAKE UP WAKE THE FLACK UP
@@austintomkewitz3981 get some education. I bought an EV but no tax credit because I make too much.
Favoritism is a big thing in that industry.
60k for a v6 big horn? haha!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tried to buy a ram.. They wouldnt deal.. walked away
They did you a favor
They did you a favor
Stealantisis is done, its over. Gm now . New cars suck and are hard to fix. I stick to 2006-2012 cars
i'm happy with my '87. i can and have done everything ever needed to it...
who needs a three-quarter ton 4x4 with a 600 hp engine to commute to work. saw it at work. They were the ones crying. They were short on money.
All car makers are producing 60k+ cars but consumers want 20k+ cars. LOL
@yl003760 and customers really want the whole $60k+ car but only pay $20k for it. Total disconnect on the customer side too.
Yep, I’ve got some vids coming on that topic.
No they don't want 20k cars. They want 60k cars with 20k price tags. Thouse days are done. People can keep making all the doom and gloom videos about this all they want. Thouse days are gone. And these prices are here to stay.
Yep, I bought a base model 2008 Chevy truck for a little under 20.. I won’t pay more than that.
Sorry but there is no justification for a vehicle that will be used as a daily costing 120 k, the most a daily should cost is 15 k.
The crows cawing in the background adds a fitting graveyard-like aesthetic to this car lot.
😂🤣😆
truly saddening
I set up a test drive for a ford van, we use them for work and there was the possibility of buying more than one. I get to the lot and a sales guy that I wasn’t working with tried to jump the sale. The guy I was working with saw me talking to this guy and came sprinting out there. What came next was a 10 minute argument between the two that nearly came to blows. I didn’t get the van or even take the test drive.
Dealers were shitting in tall cotton during covid - But people are beginning to realize that today's Cars and Trucks barely hold up - Check engine lights all the time - More plastic components that fail - I'll stick with the 90's Cars . . .
Dealers can't retain techs that can work on these thing's
dont buy vehicles after 2018
My question is how did you walk around that lot without being mugged by half a dozen salesmen?
I agree, my experience was some want to jump on you as soon as you get out of your car. Makes you feel like a QB facing a rushing defense!
Simple, you stop by on Sunday when they are closed.
Your comment that any car can be sold is only true at the right price. You can move inventory by slashing prices, but while you recover some money, you will also take a loss on every unit you sell. A lot of dealerships are zombies right now and they will go out of business inevitably. The salesman screaming was unprofessional but I understand his desperation.
Two times i went in to test drive vehicles. First time, the salesman got so pissed off that i would not buy the crapped out VW Jetta, he called me when i returned to work screaming curse words at me for wasting his time, went on tirad for at lest 5 min, hung up on him. The second time tested Ford Escape, when they got me in the room to talk costs, i said i needed to think about it, wasnt sure that was the vehicle for me. He called me dirty names and jumped across the table at me, the other men there had to pull him away. Never again look at new cars, or go to a dealer. Rotten to the core.
Damn that’s crazy. I like buying from an individual if possible, I hate most dealerships. Of course I never buy new.
Every one of those trucks are ugly.. Make more regular cab short beds...
I have absolutely no sympathy for any salesman who's been working since before 2022. People were getting completely ripped off all over the place in '22 and sales people made hand over fist. This is why I happily drive a 1999 Mitsubishi, bare basic and completely paid off for years. Buy a pre-2020 car while you can, and take extremely strict care of it. You'll thank me later.
Pre 2015
Ha, no inventory and pre-owned priced to high to get solid loans. Salesmen making money in the industry now hand over fist is a rare exception, not the norm. Was there and left before the chip restriction really hit and never looked back.
I’m trying to wrap my head around what a lifelong Jeep customer would look like.
I work with one...he looks like Shrek.
I am a lifelong Jeep owner. I have owned 4 Cherokees (XJ), One Grand Cherokee (WJ) and 1 wrangler (YJ) and I have two issues with the current offerings of Jeep: 1) reliability- they are too complex to last (especially with a turbo 4 cylinder) and too difficult to repair when the do break down) and 2) price. This one is mainly self explanatory. When the average Wrangler or Grand Cherokee is twice as expensive as it was in 2019, and the regular Cherokee isn't made anymore..Stellantis has made sure that I am out of the market for a new one.
There were a lot of stupid people paying those crazy MSRP prices but they are gone..either their cars got repossessed OR they can't qualify for a loan any longer...same thing with C8 Corvettes..they are sitting on the lots not selling..the supply of low IQ with wants bigger than their bank accounts are starting to dissappear leaving dealers struggling.
Though I like the C8 Corvette, I would not pay $80-$90k for a toy like that. Most people won’t, even if they can. Now $40k, we can talk.
You kept cool and did the right thing to give the calm salesman some helpful advice and that’s to think about moving on. Everybody loses with Stelantis. Prices too high, buyers cant afford it, Stellantis firm on prices, sales people cant make money.
It was an experience for sure. Sad state of affairs.
My 2016 Jeep Wrangler Sport was $23,500. I had it built and was shown the progress on the assembly line every day.
Not the main point of this video but this country is so divided in terms of the haves and the have nots. How many people have 60 grand for a new pickup? Wages have not come close to keeping up with the cost of everything. Hell, in the 70's I was a musician and since I don't work on cars and was traveling the country (my ride had to be reliable) I bought brand new Dodge "Maxivans" - the extra long ones in 1973, 1975, and 1978. Those things were about 6 grand. I look at these prices and can't figure out who the hell's got that kinda money to burn on a short term investment - something that will be worth 10 grand in 5 years, and, 3 or 4 grand in 15 years - and be crushed up to make an end table in 18 years or something. If you're part of the 20-percent of people who are actively in the stock market you've gotten rich over the last 12 years - but that leaves the rest of the population screwed.
I'm sorry but I do not feel sorry for sales people at these car dealerships. They have been ripping people off for decades and now they wanna cry that they're not able sell their crappy overpriced cars..boohoo
One of my best friends that I have been friends with since 2005 started working at a dealership in 2016 as a salesman, and all of a sudden he was making all kinds of money and flaunting it on social media. He bought a huge house, new cars, got married, had kids, started talking about how he was investing all his money... it was starting to upset me because I was not making nearly as much money, and it was really unfair in my eyes because he was a useless person. He had no skills or talents except being abnormally motivated. He would always call me and tell me how much he was making, send me pics of his paychecks and tell me to go work with him but I never did because I don't like large corporate working environments. I just can't do that shit. Anyway, in 2020 the the pandemic kicked off, people were getting all these stimulus checks and the ones that were still working had all that extra cash, so they started buying new cars and trading up. He started making even more money, while many of us were really starting to struggle. He was flaunting stacks of cash and I was getting so pissed off. In 2022, he made even more and we stopped talking because I was disgusted. Fast forward to June 2024.... he starts sending me texts that he was struggling, they were laying people off, he lost a ton of money on crypto, and he had to sell his house, sell one of his cars (a $100,000 Audi) and his wife had to trade in her car ($150,000 Mercedes) for a Dodge minivan, and he doesn't post on social media anymore, he doesn't call me or text me, he doesn't answer my calls anymore or anything. What's sad is that I love the dude, we went through so much shit together as friends, and he offered me a job with him, but I can honestly say that I don't feel bad for him. In fact, it kind of makes me satisfied to be honest because I truly feel that the industry all deserves what is happening to them. They all thought they were going to rip us off and then live like kings and queens forever.
Just think how much land you could buy for 60,000 dollars and will last forever. These 60,000 dollars vehicles are good for maybe 10 years then time to buy another one.
I think you'd spend an additional $10,000 in repairs trying to keep one of these on the road for 10 years.
Get over it Buddy. You think that was bad? You aint seen nothing yet! lol
These vehicles are twice as expensive as they should be.
I don't understand who they think they are selling a 50k jeeps to. Most people don't even come close to making 50k a year and if they do make 50k they don't after taxes. You need to make well over 100k to be able to comfortably afford a 50k vehicle.
Most people don't make 50k a year?. Umm ok.
For individuals it is more like $60k and household is $80k. But yeah, we have zero debt (own free and clear), an income of $250k with a mid seven figure net worth and just bought our first new car in 18 years and it was $31k. Frequently financing expensive new cars will quickly make most earners in this country broke.
@tpolerex7282 congratulations on all that financial freedom 🙏
@@sleeeper88 ask 10 people out in public how much they take home a month. You will be shocked.
Word. I’m in my late 40’s. Our household income is around 200k.
Between my wife and I we have bought exactly one brand new car, a $30k civic Si.
I don’t know who the hell is buying 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, $100,000 vehicles. That’s nuts.
Something similar happened to me at a Fort Worth Dodge Jeep chrysler. I was interested in trading in my Grand Cherokee for a Wrangler so stopped in the dealership I pass daily on my commute. They were nice picked on out and was told to keep it for a week and I did keep it a week. Found out im not a jeep wrangler person I like the JGC better. So go back in had a few people walking around shopping and go to the sales person office. I hand the guy the keys he says hold on goes up to the perch where the guys looking down on everyone working deals. The guy up there stands up and screams...what does he not like about this deal he kept the jeep all week we are not a car rental place....i was like wtheck...so the sales guy comes back and says im sorry that guy is a jerk...and i just said please give me the keys to my jeep. the other guy comes over and the two start arguing over me not taking their offer. the sales guy up and quits right there...i had my keys went outside and the former sales guy come over talking trash about the guy...it was crazy...
I remember taking one of our fleet vehicles in for a recall at a Stelantis dealer. The service writer calmly asked me for a job.
They reap what they sow. No different from a Harley Davidson dealer.
And it could not of happened to a more deserving industry
Yes the salesman was unprofessional. That aside, I think part of the problem is that automakers convinced people that they need big pick ups and suvs to commute and run errands in and then charge ridiculous prices for them. Not even going to mention the current economy.
Walk out. If the dealership can’t control their staff how can they take care of you. I would have found and told the manager and told them this directly
Buy your car when it’s two years old. Maximum depreciation has already happened and then you can just trade it in every three to four years. Just get a two year old car with low miles. I learned this from the cfo of a bank.
I need an econo box with a non-turbo 4 cylinder and a 5 speed manual.
i wish we could get bare bones vehicle's like that still lol..
I've got 2 naturally aspirated vehicle's one has a a 3.0 l v6 and the other have a 5.7 iforce v8 both are conservative engines that can stretch gas depending on how you drive em
Econo box 😂
The kind of car that used to be called a "throw away car". Nowadays, any car that runs reliably is too value to throw away.
Hopefully car sales will be obsolete soon. Online only Dealerships too. They have gone too far.
All dealerships are in the same boat!
All that I can say is “it’s about damm time!” 😂
I used to buy a new truck every 3 years whether I needed it or not. I decided to stop buying new cars or stepping onto dealership Lots in 2009 . Best decision I've ever made. I hope they all go out of business.
The CEOs of the American car companies have changed the business model. Now it's much fewer vehicles being sold but at very high prices. This really hurts the dealerships. NO ONE is selling these days, who wants to pay 110 grand for a pickup or a Jeep Rubicon??? Does not matter how aggressive you are as a salesman, all over the US these vehicles just aren't selling no matter who the salesman is.
Unfortunately the auto sales industry has promoted and condoned this kind of ruthless cut throat behavior. With the insane prices and hardly any sales occurring they're turning on each other.
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You obviously know nothing about sales. The manager may very well have been showing favoritism to a certain salesman. It's not an excuse for the salesman flipping out but there could be more to it than just a salesman being a poor sport about not getting a customer.
Thank you for supporting a veteran. I would have exited the building, who knows how far of that would have gone. He obviously couldn't take it anymore. No excuses. I hope he gets the help he needs.
I'm satisfied with my 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limted ... it's EVERYTHING THAT I NEED !!! They can keep their OVER PRICED new vehicles ....... And IF people "stop buying" the "over priced" crap, they will be forced to "lower" their RIDICULOUS MSRP on the vehicles !!!!
Why would you tell the guy getty fed the sales to quit? He is doing awesome. The frustrated guy needs to quit.
Basically, I think a country's economy depending on car sales is wrong. Cars are supposed to be owned for 10-15 years. How would the industry manage to find that many new customers who are willing to buy expensive vehicles every year?
The elite Stellantis' empty suits will just jump ship and find another gig as they're all part of the privileged corporate swamp.
Jeep dealerships are the worse;
I think the guy was having a very severe nervous breakdown or burnout for not selling any car for months.
The guy would be better off working at Home Depot.
I was going to buy a Grand Cherokee...................thank God i didn't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those rams don't even look good
Selling a low package Sahara for 55k is crazy.. I got the diesel gladiator rubicon fully loaded off the showroom floor for 58k just a year ago.
Should have done your research that EcoDiesel is crap
@@glennbeadshaw727 My gen 2 ram has over 250k miles mostly used for towing and hasn’t skipped a beat, and my 3rd gen gladiator hasn’t had one problem yet. Diesel in the Midwest is $3 a gallon, and I’m averaging close to 30mpg on the highway when I’m not towing. I wouldn’t even buy a jeep with a 3.6 mini van engine, I needed real torque power and mpg.
Stellantis is a subprime finance company that just happens to make automobiles.
Thank Carlos Tavares
Yep, outstanding CEO ha ha
The jeep dumps over 20 grand the minute you are handed the keys,70grand for a jeep is a crime!
Saw a new Ford Bronco the other day in a Roanoke dealership. 92K, and a sign saying " you save 7K". It wasn't anything special.
What you saw was a snapshot of the guy. If you've never vented, then feel free to judge.
Jeep dealer in rural Nova Scotia parked a row of Jeeps in the field next door. Farmer is mowing down another cornrow before the next shipment arrives…
I can guess the reason nobody did anything to him…
We don't even need lying salesmen to add to the cost. Just a cashier.
Dude was black
Yep