ALL-IN with Ten High! | Upswing Poker Level-Up Hand Analysis Special
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- Let's analyze some poker hands! Upswing Lab members submitted hands to be reviewed on the Level-Up podcast and we chose 3 particularly interesting ones to go over. Hand #1 features analysis from the upcoming Lucid GTO Trainer tool. Hands #2 and #3 are straight-up street poker!
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Thanks for featuring my hand!! Don't you worry, I absolutely tabled it once my opponent folded!
Preflop, this hand is a 12% freq with other hands like JJ-88 67s T9s and some suited broadways.
Flop and turn bets, I remember learning that solver likes the lowest pairs in your range as blast offs, as they completely unblock opponent's folding range, and do have 2 outs to improve. Not sure if I'm correctly using this concept in this spot though.
FWIW I'd be pretty comfy taking this line with AA due to the Kx exposed preflop, and I didn't think just using ATs and AQs would cut it for bluffs.
Love the vids!!
nice, I was concerned you were cold 4-betting and blasting this 88 100%. New nickname Sick Bluff Sam?
@mbradycf oh goodness no! In game I also though about using my Jx as bluff combos rather than AQ/AT as the outs are really dirty for us. Unsure about that one though.
Hi guys, I have a question about spots like these.
Let's say that pre-flop the solver wants us to call 10/9s 75% of the time, and 4-bet 25%. Let's further assume that the solver wants us to do the same thing with another similar hand, like maybe J/10s.
Is the point here that we need to call/4-bet with both hands at the same frequency, or is the point to feed a particular range to our opponent? In other words, let's say instead of calling/4-betting both hands at those frequencies (75/25, respectively) we instead called 10/9s 100% of the time, and called/4-bet the J/10s 50/50? Would the latter approach be functionally the same as the former, or is it important that we get each hand in at the right frequency?
Let me add that if I were playing the same players over & over, I can see the merit to having each hand at 75/25 (otherwise, if I 4-bet, my opponent might realize I can *never* have 10/9s), but against an unfamiliar opponent, is that same rule true?
really good question. First off, there's three big reasons why hands will mix between multiple actions:
1. The EV of each action is extremely similar (this is a prerequisite -- the solver never mixes -EV actions)
2. Mixing helps us achieve the proper ("GTO") frequencies for each action
3. Board coverage (e.g. so we can actually hit that 8-7-6 flop after 4-betting)
Therefore, the approach you mentioned (reducing 4-bet with one hand while increasing 4-bet with another) will keep you at the proper overall 4-bet frequency.
And it'd be quite unlikely you actually get exploited for not 4-betting enough with T9s. All of these things would have to happen in order for you to actually be exploited for it:
1. Your opponent would have to somehow figure out you were never 4-betting T9s (incredibly unlikely)
2. Your opponent would have to know how to exploit a player who has the proper 4-bet frequency, but that range lacks T9s
3. A spot where it matters that your range is lacking T9s would have to come up against this player
That said, exploiting someone who's frequencies are off is a lot easier than that, especially because a lot of good players attempt exploits based on "population tendencies" such as not 4-betting enough. IMO keeping your frequencies close to optimal (maybe even erring on the "too aggressive" side) is the most important thing.
@@mbradycf THANK YOU. That was an amazing answer, and perfectly explained it. I really appreciate that.
In summary then, more important than hitting the right frequencies with each individual hand type is having the correct frequencies of different actions, with the relevant hand *types*. I realize that is somewhat of an oversimplification, and we're dealing with the edges of +-EV anyway so saying whether something is more important is difficult.
When nits bet big at 1/3 they always have it
Snookered I know what it meens ...lol
I love snooker
on this last hand the 1/3 with KQo. i agree with everything your saying as im a reg. in the TEX small stakes streets of 1/2 and 2/5 and 1/3. i see it all the time. the BB who led out for 55 into 60 either has the nut flush or nut flush draw. and its the hormones tht is getting to him not the hand. he sees he has the nut flush and just wants to barrel at it and have anyone try and take it away from him. which is one thing you both neglected to say i think i maybe wrong though. the endorphins are making him bet big. not anything else
last episodes have been 720p and this one is only 480p, guys! is that on purpose?
not on purpose, will inquire with editor and check YT settings
thank you @@mbradycf
i would claim nuts then muck
Say less mike and let the pro do the analysis