I really don't know why he doesn't have at least 200k view by now. This man puts in the work and gives us gamers honest reviews! I certainly appreciate him! Thank you sir!
man id say youll hit 100k subs by the end of the year, and itll be absolutely deserved. this is one of my go to channels for a reason. im glad at least 75% of the features weve been vocal about are finally available now and at a fair as hell price
For those who are planning to buy one keep notes of these: *If you're planning to add analog extenders like Kontrol Freaks, make sure the size that you're going to buy are like the PS4 ones since they have the same size. *Also note that there's a squeaky sound when you do the full circular motion of the sticks. Overall performance is great for an alternative option to the Xbox pro controllers. I love the backbuttons and the price is great. Controller has zero input lag like the original ones. I just wish they made the bumpers as crisp as the series s/x controllers....
Your review style is fantastic! - I’ve tried a few budget pro controllers and have been daily driving the G7 on Forza Horizon 5. I recently got the G7 SE to experience that Hall effect stick vibe. - Comparing the two, the sticks on the G7 SE are more precise and you can set the deadzone a little lower for even more precise movement over the G7. The hall triggers also provide a smoother and more precise output when giving half brake or throttle, for example. Although I miss the clicky buttons, these membranes seem to be not far behind for now
@@tuckernavarre8765SE really isn’t far behind the original g7. The buttons will last just as long and you have better thumbsticks so I’d go with the SE
One thing I noticed when reading reviews for both is that there seemed to be far more bad reliability reviews with the mechanical buttons on the G7 compared to the membranes on the SE. I’m still researching and haven’t bought either one yet, but this makes me want to lean toward the SE even more
do you play on pc or xbox if you play on xbox the g7 se might be worth it, but if you play on pc you should probably get the gamesir t4k since it has the mechanical buttons and the hall effect sticks with an 1000hz polling rate
Got mine a couple days ago. This feels way higher class than budget. Happy customer here. Far better than the Gulikit Kingkong 2 by a long shot. Might even buy a second one for when this gets used into oblivion.
Im going to say this having played with it tonight just got it. This is the best controller fir xbox period. That raw mode for the sticks when playing cod is almost like cheating. Its so precise the triggers are incredible as well. Just zero the dead zones and theres no need for trigger locks. Ive had the scuff instinct, gambit victrix, wolverine ultimate, elite series 2 and non of them touch this. Its damn near perfect
The only reason they probably told you not to review is, is because this has been out for over a month or two but they STILL didnt release any of the custom faceplates (like they excessively advertise) they had a competition for. Like honestly how hard is it to just slap some color and shapes on a faceplate they already manufacture.
Thanks for the review! The T4 Kaleid still seems like the best bang for buck option for the PC crowd. Hall sticks, mechanical buttons, and 1k Hz poll rate through the software. If someone could take that and add wireless + 2 more back buttons it would be perfect.
With the Kaleid, I you have to turn down the lights every time you turn that thing on. Annoying. Also - I think it uses different Hall effect stick as its error rate in rotation is much higher. Shape is also different, too wedgy for many. No Xbox compatibility also means lower native compatibility in some games. For PC, I'd go with the G7 SE.
@@RasenRambo23Well, at least we have our preferrence. I choose t4 kaleid in the first place bcs the light. Yeah, that was the MAIN reason Fortunately, it has fairly good feature, so i wont complain besides cable. I dont play xbox or ps4, only PC and android, so it wont bother me at all.
Happy birthday young man! 🎉🙌 Thank you for everything you do. I am a huge fan and I are of controllers. I need a G7 🎮 306 days no alcohol paid off three credit card accounts so far my birthday is July 27 pray for me gamers ✊❤️🏆
I got in touch with GameSir a few weeks ago and they said that both the G7 and the T4 Kaleid may come in wireless versions. So I'm gonna wait a little longer. My GameSir T4W still kicking with zero drift after 2k hours so I think I'm good for now. Pretty sure we will see a pro version of this controllers in the future. GameSir is surely testing the market. The G7 SE is the top seller in Amazon Brazil. Since here is a huge market for XBOX the wireless version is a matter of time.
guys if you player fifa or nhl or any game that clicks in the stick for movement, hall effect is a game changer . these games break the stick or leave movement stuck in a in between state after less then a month. not only are hall effect sensors waaaaay more sensitive, but they now dont break.
I hope the next gamesir g7 se has paddles instead of back buttons I’ve never had a problem with membrane buttons so if they did make a new g7 se with tactile buttons or membrane it wouldn’t matter to me
Its just ridiculous that the actual main brand doesnt even make controllers with these types of joysticks. I strongly believe that they keep the controllers shitty just to keep making us pay more and more money every year or every other year depending on how much you play. Even the $180 elite controllers have shitty joysticks and its just inexcusable.. I'm thinking about buying this controller although your experience with the left back button being jammed does worry me, i hope the production quality can increase soon
Hall effect on Xbox. The day has come!!! Of course. Im too used to 4 paddles, and trigger stops. If they had mechanical face buttons that would be a bonus but. I gotta have 4 paddles and trigger stops :( But I do believe GameSir is going to be the saving grace of the controller world. They're doing great things. Cant wait to see what they come up with next. Also...im just not a fan of it only coming in white. But hey. Gotta start somewhere right?
I have a Razer Wolverine and I thought I had an advantage with the top buttons, but now I have an advantage with the G7 SE the rear buttons are easy to get too and speed kills with no dead zone. I don't notice the buttons too much in Fortnite and rather have the Hall effect stick as the bigger advantage.. You do a great job, keep it coming. Before I buy anything for my Xbox I check with you first.
Is your review of the G7 HE on the way? I am doubting whether to get the SE or HE. So far all I see is mechanical XYAB buttons on the HE. Anything else that's different?
Gasp...gasp I say. Great video, you definitely earned a sub, but Xbox does have Discord. Haven't used it, but appreciate that it IS a built in feature now. Been for a few months actually.
How do you overclock this controller for Xbox? I see every reviewer talking about it, but not one person has mentioned it. Do consumers need to wait for the nexus app to add the option of overclocking?
Been watching your channel for awhile now and it’s become a favorite of mine. Finding the right controller for my Xbox has been a journey to say the least but you’ve made it much better. The only thing I wanted to ask for or plead(lol) if you have the time is to make a “Best of round up” controllers/ accessory/ products video maybe once a month or couple months if you had the time. I know your a busy guy, but I think it would really help me and others find the best quality products in your honest opinion. I think most of your subscribers including me trust you and at this point your opinion holds a lot of weight since you’re so transparent with your videos. If not I totally understand just thought I’d throw out a recommendation since I also think a video like that would play nice with the algorithm as a benefit. But not trying to bribe you or anything 😅 best of luck to your channel I’ll be here for the next one
I got mine like a week ago, didn't know they removed the rubber grips or changed the buttons until after I had ordered directly from Gamesir. The SE is inferior in everyway aside from the sticks. I did swap in the new faceplate with the Teal rings though. Nice they're interchangeable
The buttons on the back are un comfortable for me and very annoying to rest my hands I’m not trying to bind my controls in just trying to have the other settings with no stick drift
I am comparing it to the original Microsoft controller and the 8bitdo controller. I am pleasantly surprised by the build quality. All the buttons click very well, and there is no creaking even with a strong grip on the controller. The volume control works very well. Now, the most important aspect, the thumbsticks. They are very precise with zero dead zones and no drifting. There is a suitable material around the thumbsticks, and they move very smoothly at maximum tilt, unlike other controllers. Whether it's prone to malfunctions, only time will tell.
For anyone with control freaks. My xbox control freaks dont fit on this controller but ive ordered ps4/5 control freaks to see if they fit. Ill let you know if they fit when they arrive
They have to get the cost back somewhere if they’re going to go Hall Effect. I get the membrane buttons. If they release a pro with Hall Effect, Mechanical Buttons, 4 back buttons, easily worth $100 Welcome back Cap
Well im keeping the og G7 ill take my chances with stick drift. The rubberized gtips make the controller for me and the mechanical buttons are really nice too. If it drifts in a year ill just get a new one
Same. It is a shame that they didn't maintain the mechanical buttons, that was the main reason I bought the og version. The sticks in the og haven't failed me with stick drift, so I'm going to pass on this one.
It's funny that the pro version has the Xbox layout and the standard versions has the Switch layout. It's a little more expensive, but it's still cheaper than the 8BitDo Ultimate Bluetooth.
I recently got the g7 se and the dead zone felt off tried a different one and it didn't work correctly again. Would your advice be to get the g7 or a different controller with back buttons? I really like the size of the se and the 3m wire.
Happy Birthday dude have a good day 🥳🎉, Great video as always i'll probably get the controller just hope it doesn't have the same back button problems.
Picked up the OG G7 (quality, faceplate swap, mechanical buttons) after your review and, honestly, it changed my world. In my opinion, the controller is fantastic. Exceptional build quality for an Xbox/PC controller. After my deck was swamped with the quality, I went out and purchased a second one (which remains hooked to my PC). I’m really looking forward to the fall line up of games (sports) to put the Xbox connected G7 into action. Thanks to you and GameSir for an excellent alternative to the tired default Xbox controller.
How's the resolution of the thumbstick axis? I've been seeing complaints about hall effects having noticeably coarse resolution, making fine/precise control inputs impossible.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial I’ve tried the G7 SE and the regular g7 Xbox controller and both the thumb sticks are not responsive or the response curve is off, compare this to the responsiveness of the turtle beach react r which is so much faster. Makes the G7 unplayable and making micro adjustments are impossible.
@@lukegore4885 Have you tried to change the deadzone in the GS software? I have a Turtle Beach Recon and ordered a G7 to remplace it because the RT is malfunctioning (after a year and half, but as there is a 2 years warranty in EU and they don't have for now the same reference in white, they refunded me) so I hope the G7 is good, other way I'll reorder a Recon...
@@Would_he_be_Manbat_Manbat_Man yeah I’ve tried the software for the g7 on both g7 controllers and the analog sticks feel like they have massive delay or just a weird response curve if you’ve used a turtle beach controller before the G7 I doubt you’ll like it. The ergonomics of the G7 are good but if you are super competitive and play a fps like cod you will be at a disadvantage on the G7
Happy belated birthday, may you be blessed with a lot more! 🎂🙌 for whatever reason, I haven't seen your video in a while. I haven't got any notification.🤔👎
Happy late birthday 🎊🍻 your a life saver I got one shipping on the way to My house just hope thay don't deliver it to the Rong house then I got to wait a nother 2 weeks. I guess the only thing I got to worry about is the buttons getting stuck
1000Hz mode is now available from the manufacturer via a software update. Apparently the 500Hz and 1000Hz modes disable the audio jack for some reason. I have yet to test this for myself though.
That would be the T4 kalied, it works fantastic with the Brook Wingman XB adapter on the Xbox, that's what I have been using. The build quality on it is really good. As a bonus even though is translucent, there are no smudges and fingerprints issues that you have to wipe off after you get through using, at least for me there is it.
I have this controller, I like it alot, however, the L4 and R4 buttons don't seem to do anything, and the hold M plus Dpad directions for Volume and whatever the other functions are don't work either. Am I missing something?
@@JohnM89 I did try that unfortunately my conclusion is its a normal controller that can only alter its own outputs, for example the volume functions on the Dpad only adjust volume for headphones that are plugged into the controller directly
Thank you for staying on these videos. You're a true crutch and one of only two or three channels I know I'm in safe hands with. This controller looks the same as the 8bitdo ones in terms of the back buttons. They need to be more pronounced imo. How is the Dualsense Edge holding up for you?
When overclocking to 1000hz on pc starts disconnecting every 2 seconds, but with Xbox series s doesn't disconnect. It works fine. So should I let it be 1000hz or bring it down to 500hz. I hope there won't be any disadvantages because it disconnects on pc
@@ryandench814 I overlock it to 1000hz on pc and when I connect it with Xbox it doesn't disconnect whereas it keeps disconnecting on pc. On 500hz it doesn't disconnect neither on pc nor xbox.
No. It doesn’t work that way. It only works at 1000h on pc. And the update isn’t ready so there will be issues. The moment you take the controller to console it will default to Xbox 125-250hz
Before overclocking, when I use to press and hold Xbox button to start my xbox, it took 2 sec to show power light. While after overclocking it shows the power light in ms, not sec. I have noticed the difference. After playing for a while overclocked at 1000hz (whether it supports or not) I overclocked it to default to see any difference and I can say it felt slow and sluggish at default.
I got stick drift bad last night on both sticks. I couldn't believe how bad it got. Sending back for another one. Ive had the controller for 2 weeks now
Unfortunately the company doesn't make it easy to get in touch with them about support issues. I had to send back a controller due to audio issues on my PC.
Only thing i hate avout this controller is the way it feels in my hand ,,i feel like my hands are squished together when holding it compared to og xbox controller
@GamerHeavenOfficial did you have any issues getting full range on the sticks? With faceplate on, neither of my sticks could reach 100% on the left side of the circle, hindering gameplay anytime a left turn was needed. I tested all different settings and their calibration instructions multiple times to no avail. My sticks are noticeably misaligned to the left.
All they have to do is to combine analog, facebuttons and rubber grips, then make it wireless and wired version - viola, very nice gamepad is available.
At the 1:40 mark, there's a controller right next to the pistol that's red and white. My question is, what is the controller that's yellow orange bellow were you put your hands on it. Dude, it's sick!! Happy belated day, my dude! Love your videos and your commentary. It's funny, and I'm not sure if people notice that on any channel, but have a brilliant voice! Looking forward to your future vids.
@@alanz561 I've been playing with mine daily and the experience has been pretty good. I can't speak on how long the product will hold up over time but for the price I think it's a fine controller. I've had several other much more expensive controllers from Scuf, Razer, Thrustmaster, Nacon, etc. and this one is better. No deadzone, no drift, good circularity, decently low latency, turbo/macro/gyro, zero issues with the included 2.4ghz dongle, mechanical face buttons as well as toggle-able triggers. It took me a few days to get used to the back button placement and you can't cover all 4 simultaneously but I'm fine with them. They're still miles better than many other manufacturers implementations and there's actually FOUR of them, plus 2 additional face buttons that you can bind to. Overall I'm happy with my purchase. The only 'downside' I've found is the thumbsticks definitely need slip on covers because they're kinda slippery imo, and Kontrolfreeks do not fit.
@@KapinKrunch Generally speaking, it's a myth that wired has less latency than wireless. All other things being equal, it's the opposite because light travels faster than electricity.
I actually did get stick drift from my 8bitdo controller. It is not normal stick drift as it only occurs randomly when at less than 20 charge getting worse until it dies. It wouldnt have been an issue if my usbc port didnt break but it did. Buying this as a replacement and definitely looking for those back button issues as I use them a lot. Hope it works well.
controller with built in dead zones shouldn't be considered anti stick drift, because once u put the dead zone on zero the controller will drift like any other controller regardless if the controller has hall effect sticks.
I bought the controller a week ago. It feels amazing, and I like the software and customization. But it has some significant issues: 1) The view and menu buttons are terribly placed. It's difficult to press the view button with the left thumb, but if you put a KontrolFreek on the left stick, it's basically impossible. I had to map the view button to the left backside button. 2) The USB-C port is inside an enclosure and it's very hard to fit a 3rd party USB cable in there. I tried connecting two different cables and none of them would go in. That's a terrible design. I wanted to use a short 0.5 m cable and plug it into a USB extender whenever I want to use the controller. Maybe I can find a cable that fits. If they made a wireless version of this controller and placed the view and menu buttons lower, I'd probably buy one right away.
I preordered the G7 SE and received it over a week ago. For the money I don’t think it can be beat. It’s a really nice controller for XsX! Looking forward to the polling rate update.
My biggest issue with Microsoft brand xbox controllers is slow turn. Do you think this would be a good alternative to avoid slow turn. Or do you have a favorite controller for fps games?
After doing some testing I find if I set the left thumbstick beyond the max 100% setting to Raw using the software app, I can better make them sharper tight Left & Right corners when I play Ride 4, it's a Cycle Bike game. If I lower it down more I just can't turn lean as far in any racing game at all.
Is this worth getting if you play mostly racing games. If you compare this to the original Xbox Series controller is there much difference when playing racing games?
@@inarisk The top triggers a little stiffer but I prefer that, I mostly race. I done a few none prime Twitch streams under the name: Mcfuryan But out of all the racing games I have played the most touchy game is Mx-Bikes and I can tell it works vary well but I not streamed that yet or streamed Ride 4 and them cycle race games really need a vary good no drifting controller. it have not yet let me down. I guess if it ever does I will edit this post after a few months. I got to say I enjoy the GameSir T4k as well and the GuliKit King Kong 2 pro controller and like how it feel's if you do the Firmware instructions right, but I wish I had never purchased the 2 xbox elites, purchased one one year and other I purchased a year after that, the Microsoft Xbox One Elite's, both had vary lose sticks that worked smooth But both got terrible Left stick drifting to the right. All the PowerA controllers also gotten stick drifts but did last longer before they starting stick drifting, but not on these 3 controllers yet. Maybe I will see next year. Mx-Bikes is a massively collecting Tracks & Gear & Bikes game with endless addon Track Downloads that really works the controllers hard!. But game is only for the PC. My games Mx-bikes, Forza Horizon 4&5, Ride 2&4, Baja Edge of control, Split/Second, Dakar Desert Rally, Gravel, Ridge Racer unbound, FlatOut 2, Gas Guzzlers Extreme, Monster Energy Supercross 3,5, Grid Legends, Project cars 3, Road Redemption (Road rash), The crew 2, NFS-Heat. So far I played all these using these three controllers, they worked well. GameSir G7SE and GameSir T4k, Gulikit King Kong 2 pro with the newest Gulikit NS09 Firmware.
I really don't know why he doesn't have at least 200k view by now. This man puts in the work and gives us gamers honest reviews! I certainly appreciate him! Thank you sir!
For real. This guy is only one of two or three channels I truly trust with these controller videos.
It's because some of the "jokes"
Because some of his jokes are just too cringe and takes up way too much of the video
Cause hes dumb af his back button ain’t stuck he just has it locked
Happy birthday controller captain
You like you got blood shot drunk and smoked weed and took a shower 😂
man id say youll hit 100k subs by the end of the year, and itll be absolutely deserved. this is one of my go to channels for a reason.
im glad at least 75% of the features weve been vocal about are finally available now and at a fair as hell price
He did, well done.
For those who are planning to buy one keep notes of these:
*If you're planning to add analog extenders like Kontrol Freaks, make sure the size that you're going to buy are like the PS4 ones since they have the same size.
*Also note that there's a squeaky sound when you do the full circular motion of the sticks.
Overall performance is great for an alternative option to the Xbox pro controllers. I love the backbuttons and the price is great. Controller has zero input lag like the original ones. I just wish they made the bumpers as crisp as the series s/x controllers....
Hi , would it matter if its ps4 or ps5 kontrol freeks ? and also have you used them and do they feel good ?
@@gersoncherry5564 of course it feels good. I couldn't play without it 😂
Not sure about the size. Just go for ps4s to be safe....
@@BordadoIsmael alright bet thank you bro🙏🙏🙏
wait so the kontrol freeks for xbox won't fit on G7 SE?
@@Filawr nope, but the ps5 ones fit perfectly so i use those
Thanks for all that you do!
it’s my pleasure. probably sound like I work at chic filet lol
Your review style is fantastic!
- I’ve tried a few budget pro controllers and have been daily driving the G7 on Forza Horizon 5. I recently got the G7 SE to experience that Hall effect stick vibe.
- Comparing the two, the sticks on the G7 SE are more precise and you can set the deadzone a little lower for even more precise movement over the G7. The hall triggers also provide a smoother and more precise output when giving half brake or throttle, for example. Although I miss the clicky buttons, these membranes seem to be not far behind for now
So I play fps games like fort cod etc what would you recommend because I’ll end up getting both eventually but for now i want just one I can’t decide?
hey which one did u get and what do you think? @@tuckernavarre8765
@@tuckernavarre8765SE really isn’t far behind the original g7. The buttons will last just as long and you have better thumbsticks so I’d go with the SE
Hey, do the impulse (trigger) motors work in forza? Looking to get this or the regular g7 for forza motorsport 2023.
One thing I noticed when reading reviews for both is that there seemed to be far more bad reliability reviews with the mechanical buttons on the G7 compared to the membranes on the SE. I’m still researching and haven’t bought either one yet, but this makes me want to lean toward the SE even more
do you play on pc or xbox if you play on xbox the g7 se might be worth it, but if you play on pc you should probably get the gamesir t4k since it has the mechanical buttons and the hall effect sticks with an 1000hz polling rate
@@Almightydubzz I play on Xbox and ended up going with the SE, such a huge game changer when compared to a regular Xbox controller
@@Butters_Stunts facts
Got mine a couple days ago. This feels way higher class than budget. Happy customer here. Far better than the Gulikit Kingkong 2 by a long shot. Might even buy a second one for when this gets used into oblivion.
Congrats on the big 34, hope your channel continues becoming more and more successful. :)
I hope so too!
Im going to say this having played with it tonight just got it. This is the best controller fir xbox period. That raw mode for the sticks when playing cod is almost like cheating. Its so precise the triggers are incredible as well. Just zero the dead zones and theres no need for trigger locks. Ive had the scuff instinct, gambit victrix, wolverine ultimate, elite series 2 and non of them touch this. Its damn near perfect
HYPR is going to bring out a Hall effect option, starting with PS4 controllers upgraded to USB-C, according to their Twitter.
Happy birthday 🎈 to the only legend that manages to make controller reviews something I can get wildly excited about.
The only reason they probably told you not to review is, is because this has been out for over a month or two but they STILL didnt release any of the custom faceplates (like they excessively advertise) they had a competition for. Like honestly how hard is it to just slap some color and shapes on a faceplate they already manufacture.
Daily reminder that the T4 Kaleid received an update and is now able to do 1000mhz polling rate.
would you choose this one or the T4 Kaleid
@03cristiank I've been using the T4 since he first reviewed it and I can't use any other controller. Just only 2 back buttons which is good for me
Thanks for the review!
The T4 Kaleid still seems like the best bang for buck option for the PC crowd. Hall sticks, mechanical buttons, and 1k Hz poll rate through the software. If someone could take that and add wireless + 2 more back buttons it would be perfect.
O Vader 3 da flydigi tem tudo isso
With the Kaleid, I you have to turn down the lights every time you turn that thing on. Annoying. Also - I think it uses different Hall effect stick as its error rate in rotation is much higher. Shape is also different, too wedgy for many. No Xbox compatibility also means lower native compatibility in some games. For PC, I'd go with the G7 SE.
@@RasenRambo23Well, at least we have our preferrence. I choose t4 kaleid in the first place bcs the light. Yeah, that was the MAIN reason
Fortunately, it has fairly good feature, so i wont complain besides cable. I dont play xbox or ps4, only PC and android, so it wont bother me at all.
They downgraded this controller from the previous gen.
Happy birthday young man! 🎉🙌
Thank you for everything you do. I am a huge fan and I are of controllers.
I need a G7 🎮
306 days no alcohol paid off three credit card accounts so far my birthday is July 27 pray for me gamers ✊❤️🏆
Thank you. Congratulations on those huge life accomplishments, that's all so positive brother.
Best controller channel hands down.
Hope you had a nice birthday.
Thank you, I did
Welcome to 34 ya old bastard. Happy birthday!
That intro😂 🎉🎉🎉🎉 Awesome upload as always. Congrats my friend 🍾🍺🪗
I got in touch with GameSir a few weeks ago and they said that both the G7 and the T4 Kaleid may come in wireless versions. So I'm gonna wait a little longer. My GameSir T4W still kicking with zero drift after 2k hours so I think I'm good for now. Pretty sure we will see a pro version of this controllers in the future. GameSir is surely testing the market. The G7 SE is the top seller in Amazon Brazil. Since here is a huge market for XBOX the wireless version is a matter of time.
acho que controle de xbox wireless só a microsoft pode fazer, não? ja vi algo sobre isso em algum lugar, mas pra quem joga no pc é irrelevante
guys if you player fifa or nhl or any game that clicks in the stick for movement, hall effect is a game changer . these games break the stick or leave movement stuck in a in between state after less then a month. not only are hall effect sensors waaaaay more sensitive, but they now dont break.
Definitely going to grab one, looks sick. And happy birthday Kevin.
Happy Birthday, Sir. I hope you have a good one and many more. Thanks for sharing this controller.
I hope the next gamesir g7 se has paddles instead of back buttons I’ve never had a problem with membrane buttons so if they did make a new g7 se with tactile buttons or membrane it wouldn’t matter to me
Its just ridiculous that the actual main brand doesnt even make controllers with these types of joysticks. I strongly believe that they keep the controllers shitty just to keep making us pay more and more money every year or every other year depending on how much you play. Even the $180 elite controllers have shitty joysticks and its just inexcusable..
I'm thinking about buying this controller although your experience with the left back button being jammed does worry me, i hope the production quality can increase soon
Hall effect on Xbox. The day has come!!! Of course. Im too used to 4 paddles, and trigger stops. If they had mechanical face buttons that would be a bonus but. I gotta have 4 paddles and trigger stops :( But I do believe GameSir is going to be the saving grace of the controller world. They're doing great things. Cant wait to see what they come up with next. Also...im just not a fan of it only coming in white. But hey. Gotta start somewhere right?
I just bought it can’t wait to use it and not get stuck drift like every other controller I’ve had
I have a Razer Wolverine and I thought I had an advantage with the top buttons, but now I have an advantage with the G7 SE the rear buttons are easy to get too and speed kills with no dead zone. I don't notice the buttons too much in Fortnite and rather have the Hall effect stick as the bigger advantage.. You do a great job, keep it coming. Before I buy anything for my Xbox I check with you first.
good to see you back from hiatus
As an Xbox series S gamer, this is exciting news‼️
Is your review of the G7 HE on the way?
I am doubting whether to get the SE or HE. So far all I see is mechanical XYAB buttons on the HE. Anything else that's different?
Happy 34th Sir Stallion. Keep up the awesome content 👍🎊
Thank you my friend I appreciate that
Gasp...gasp I say. Great video, you definitely earned a sub, but Xbox does have Discord. Haven't used it, but appreciate that it IS a built in feature now. Been for a few months actually.
Happy Birthday man! Appreciate you giving away the game pass code!
Glad you got it brother
Welcome back and happy birthday to you🎉
How do you overclock this controller for Xbox? I see every reviewer talking about it, but not one person has mentioned it. Do consumers need to wait for the nexus app to add the option of overclocking?
Been watching your channel for awhile now and it’s become a favorite of mine. Finding the right controller for my Xbox has been a journey to say the least but you’ve made it much better.
The only thing I wanted to ask for or plead(lol) if you have the time is to make a “Best of round up” controllers/ accessory/ products video maybe once a month or couple months if you had the time. I know your a busy guy, but I think it would really help me and others find the best quality products in your honest opinion.
I think most of your subscribers including me trust you and at this point your opinion holds a lot of weight since you’re so transparent with your videos. If not I totally understand just thought I’d throw out a recommendation since I also think a video like that would play nice with the algorithm as a benefit. But not trying to bribe you or anything 😅 best of luck to your channel I’ll be here for the next one
Thank you for the compliment and the recommendation, I really outta do exactly what you are saying. I will start doing that soon.
I actually prefer things without rubberized parts, they don't age well. Sick and tired of sticky rubber on old electronics.
Happy birthday!!! Have a fantastic day!
Thank you! You too!
I got mine like a week ago, didn't know they removed the rubber grips or changed the buttons until after I had ordered directly from Gamesir. The SE is inferior in everyway aside from the sticks. I did swap in the new faceplate with the Teal rings though. Nice they're interchangeable
True, but the sticks is a BIG improvement. dont know why they didnt just keep the rubber grips and clicky buttons and just charge like an extra £10
Happy Birthday bro. 🍻
Thank you! 😃
Happy Birthday 🎈🎂 Cap'n
The buttons on the back are un comfortable for me and very annoying to rest my hands I’m not trying to bind my controls in just trying to have the other settings with no stick drift
Happy birthday man
Amazing video, happy birthay
Prolly one of the best controllers I’ve use in a while love it
I am comparing it to the original Microsoft controller and the 8bitdo controller. I am pleasantly surprised by the build quality. All the buttons click very well, and there is no creaking even with a strong grip on the controller. The volume control works very well.
Now, the most important aspect, the thumbsticks. They are very precise with zero dead zones and no drifting. There is a suitable material around the thumbsticks, and they move very smoothly at maximum tilt, unlike other controllers. Whether it's prone to malfunctions, only time will tell.
Do they feel more on the loose end or a bit more effort needed to get them moving?
I like sticks that have a good tension to them.
For anyone with control freaks. My xbox control freaks dont fit on this controller but ive ordered ps4/5 control freaks to see if they fit. Ill let you know if they fit when they arrive
Ps4/5 control freaks fit
You are the best bro thank you. Love the comedy and you have some dope tats and collection of gaming stuff 👌🔥
They have to get the cost back somewhere if they’re going to go Hall Effect. I get the membrane buttons. If they release a pro with Hall Effect, Mechanical Buttons, 4 back buttons, easily worth $100
Welcome back Cap
T4 Kaleid has Hall and Mechanical and rgb, must be something else maybe Microsoft said chill so official still looks better.
Great review, as usual. Happy birthday!🎉
Nice review and happy birthday, man!
Happy Birthday 🎉
Thank you
Congrats, man. 34 is nothing! BTW You should review the controls of retro handhelds like the Miyoo Mini, RG35XX, Retroid Pocket 3+, etc.
Waiting on mine to arrive👍, thanks for the vid!
I just got mine in today. Thank you so much for the mapping tutorial! The manual sucks and I couldn't figure out how to do it on my xbox
Happy birthday brother 🎉🎉🎉🍾🍾🎈
Well im keeping the og G7 ill take my chances with stick drift. The rubberized gtips make the controller for me and the mechanical buttons are really nice too. If it drifts in a year ill just get a new one
Same. It is a shame that they didn't maintain the mechanical buttons, that was the main reason I bought the og version. The sticks in the og haven't failed me with stick drift, so I'm going to pass on this one.
@@Shadowl plus the grips got me too spoiled ... the controller is more comfy than a standard controller
Happy belated birthday hope u had a splended day🎉🎉🎉... Thanks for the content love it
Gamesir announced its new product the: Gamesir T4 Cyclone and the Pro version. Looking forward to your review of it.
It's funny that the pro version has the Xbox layout and the standard versions has the Switch layout. It's a little more expensive, but it's still cheaper than the 8BitDo Ultimate Bluetooth.
I recently got the g7 se and the dead zone felt off tried a different one and it didn't work correctly again. Would your advice be to get the g7 or a different controller with back buttons? I really like the size of the se and the 3m wire.
Happy Birthday BRO!!!!!!!!!!
Happy Birthday dude have a good day 🥳🎉, Great video as always i'll probably get the controller just hope it doesn't have the same back button problems.
Happy Birthday 🎂🎈 Really wish had the mechanical face buttons but membrane is fine for me so this is a win ❤
Such an odd choice to remove the mechanical buttons.
If the kaleid had rumble motors in their triggers too, it would be the perfect pad.
I think they changed to rubber to cut back in production costs to compensate for the magnetic joystick. Just a guess here...
Picked up the OG G7 (quality, faceplate swap, mechanical buttons) after your review and, honestly, it changed my world. In my opinion, the controller is fantastic. Exceptional build quality for an Xbox/PC controller. After my deck was swamped with the quality, I went out and purchased a second one (which remains hooked to my PC). I’m really looking forward to the fall line up of games (sports) to put the Xbox connected G7 into action. Thanks to you and GameSir for an excellent alternative to the tired default Xbox controller.
How's the resolution of the thumbstick axis? I've been seeing complaints about hall effects having noticeably coarse resolution, making fine/precise control inputs impossible.
I’ll test this in the upcoming thumb stick module video, but I personally haven’t noticed that in my gameplay or testing
@@GamerHeavenOfficial I’ve tried the G7 SE and the regular g7 Xbox controller and both the thumb sticks are not responsive or the response curve is off, compare this to the responsiveness of the turtle beach react r which is so much faster. Makes the G7 unplayable and making micro adjustments are impossible.
@@lukegore4885 Have you tried to change the deadzone in the GS software? I have a Turtle Beach Recon and ordered a G7 to remplace it because the RT is malfunctioning (after a year and half, but as there is a 2 years warranty in EU and they don't have for now the same reference in white, they refunded me) so I hope the G7 is good, other way I'll reorder a Recon...
@@Would_he_be_Manbat_Manbat_Man yeah I’ve tried the software for the g7 on both g7 controllers and the analog sticks feel like they have massive delay or just a weird response curve if you’ve used a turtle beach controller before the G7 I doubt you’ll like it. The ergonomics of the G7 are good but if you are super competitive and play a fps like cod you will be at a disadvantage on the G7
@@lukegore4885what do you recommend? I'm having the same issue!
Happy belated birthday, may you be blessed with a lot more! 🎂🙌 for whatever reason, I haven't seen your video in a while. I haven't got any notification.🤔👎
Happy late birthday 🎊🍻 your a life saver I got one shipping on the way to My house just hope thay don't deliver it to the Rong house then I got to wait a nother 2 weeks. I guess the only thing I got to worry about is the buttons getting stuck
Thank you. That’s awesome brother
Got it today and have absolutely ZERO drift on Gamepad tester. 0.00000%. On both sticks!. Phenomenal. Have never had that with any controller.
1000Hz mode is now available from the manufacturer via a software update. Apparently the 500Hz and 1000Hz modes disable the audio jack for some reason. I have yet to test this for myself though.
Still waiting for a controller with BOTH Hall effect sticks and all mechanical buttons.
That would be the T4 kalied, it works fantastic with the Brook Wingman XB adapter on the Xbox, that's what I have been using.
The build quality on it is really good. As a bonus even though is translucent, there are no smudges and fingerprints issues that you have to wipe off after you get through using, at least for me there is it.
@@tcrviper Thanks! 👍
oh hey its my 33rd birthday on thursday lol. happy birthday
Right on, happy birthday!!
I tried to look but couldn't find any magnetic effects thumsticks for PS5 / 4. Does anyone know why they don't make a dualsense that way. Thanks
because poo fart.
I have this controller, I like it alot, however, the L4 and R4 buttons don't seem to do anything, and the hold M plus Dpad directions for Volume and whatever the other functions are don't work either. Am I missing something?
Try use gamesir software and remapping on him.
@@JohnM89 I did try that unfortunately my conclusion is its a normal controller that can only alter its own outputs, for example the volume functions on the Dpad only adjust volume for headphones that are plugged into the controller directly
Thank you for staying on these videos. You're a true crutch and one of only two or three channels I know I'm in safe hands with.
This controller looks the same as the 8bitdo ones in terms of the back buttons. They need to be more pronounced imo.
How is the Dualsense Edge holding up for you?
What is that controller behind you (Left side) at 8:46 to the right of the gamecube wavebird that pink monster looking controller. Anyone know?
Thanks for the vid seeing as I’m a pc player this controller is extremely affordable and looks great
When overclocking to 1000hz on pc starts disconnecting every 2 seconds, but with Xbox series s doesn't disconnect. It works fine. So should I let it be 1000hz or bring it down to 500hz. I hope there won't be any disadvantages because it disconnects on pc
What how do you get 1000hz on Xbox
@@ryandench814 I overlock it to 1000hz on pc and when I connect it with Xbox it doesn't disconnect whereas it keeps disconnecting on pc. On 500hz it doesn't disconnect neither on pc nor xbox.
@@singleeyedmonk-2825 so when you overclock it on pc, it overclocks for Xbox too?
No. It doesn’t work that way. It only works at 1000h on pc. And the update isn’t ready so there will be issues. The moment you take the controller to console it will default to Xbox 125-250hz
Before overclocking, when I use to press and hold Xbox button to start my xbox, it took 2 sec to show power light. While after overclocking it shows the power light in ms, not sec. I have noticed the difference. After playing for a while overclocked at 1000hz (whether it supports or not) I overclocked it to default to see any difference and I can say it felt slow and sluggish at default.
I got stick drift bad last night on both sticks. I couldn't believe how bad it got. Sending back for another one. Ive had the controller for 2 weeks now
You got stick drift with HAL sensors?
Which controller???cause I just ordered the controller with hall affect triggers???
Unfortunately the company doesn't make it easy to get in touch with them about support issues. I had to send back a controller due to audio issues on my PC.
Only thing i hate avout this controller is the way it feels in my hand ,,i feel like my hands are squished together when holding it compared to og xbox controller
@GamerHeavenOfficial did you have any issues getting full range on the sticks? With faceplate on, neither of my sticks could reach 100% on the left side of the circle, hindering gameplay anytime a left turn was needed. I tested all different settings and their calibration instructions multiple times to no avail. My sticks are noticeably misaligned to the left.
Happy Birthday
Thank you!
All they have to do is to combine analog, facebuttons and rubber grips, then make it wireless and wired version - viola, very nice gamepad is available.
Good to have the stable master back 🐴🐴
At the 1:40 mark, there's a controller right next to the pistol that's red and white. My question is, what is the controller that's yellow orange bellow were you put your hands on it. Dude, it's sick!! Happy belated day, my dude! Love your videos and your commentary. It's funny, and I'm not sure if people notice that on any channel, but have a brilliant voice! Looking forward to your future vids.
that's the schutzstaffel 2
You should check out the Flydigi Vader 3 Pro. It is sporting hall effect sticks. Mine comes in tomorrow.
Doesn't have Xbox compatibility.
@@RasenRambo23 Gotcha, good to know. However I play PC and Switch so it works for me.
Vader 3 Pro seems to be perfect but I don't know the brand's quality control level and I'm kind of hesitant to buy it
@@alanz561 I've been playing with mine daily and the experience has been pretty good. I can't speak on how long the product will hold up over time but for the price I think it's a fine controller. I've had several other much more expensive controllers from Scuf, Razer, Thrustmaster, Nacon, etc. and this one is better. No deadzone, no drift, good circularity, decently low latency, turbo/macro/gyro, zero issues with the included 2.4ghz dongle, mechanical face buttons as well as toggle-able triggers. It took me a few days to get used to the back button placement and you can't cover all 4 simultaneously but I'm fine with them. They're still miles better than many other manufacturers implementations and there's actually FOUR of them, plus 2 additional face buttons that you can bind to. Overall I'm happy with my purchase. The only 'downside' I've found is the thumbsticks definitely need slip on covers because they're kinda slippery imo, and Kontrolfreeks do not fit.
I will wait for that 1000hz update and your video about it 😮
I really GameSir would make a wireless version.
I'm good without wireless it would have lag
@@KapinKrunchit's actually a few frames faster
@@KapinKrunch Generally speaking, it's a myth that wired has less latency than wireless. All other things being equal, it's the opposite because light travels faster than electricity.
It's not a myth at all it's simple anything wired has less input lag. Same thing with wireless headphones
@@KingDoyle1996 You are incorrect.
I actually did get stick drift from my 8bitdo controller. It is not normal stick drift as it only occurs randomly when at less than 20 charge getting worse until it dies. It wouldnt have been an issue if my usbc port didnt break but it did. Buying this as a replacement and definitely looking for those back button issues as I use them a lot. Hope it works well.
Can you take the hall effect analogs out of the se and swap them with analogs on another xbox controller?
Happy birthday enjoy
controller with built in dead zones shouldn't be considered anti stick drift, because once u put the dead zone on zero the controller will drift like any other controller regardless if the controller has hall effect sticks.
can i use this controller on pc?
@ I think so
I bought the controller a week ago. It feels amazing, and I like the software and customization. But it has some significant issues:
1) The view and menu buttons are terribly placed. It's difficult to press the view button with the left thumb, but if you put a KontrolFreek on the left stick, it's basically impossible. I had to map the view button to the left backside button.
2) The USB-C port is inside an enclosure and it's very hard to fit a 3rd party USB cable in there. I tried connecting two different cables and none of them would go in. That's a terrible design. I wanted to use a short 0.5 m cable and plug it into a USB extender whenever I want to use the controller. Maybe I can find a cable that fits.
If they made a wireless version of this controller and placed the view and menu buttons lower, I'd probably buy one right away.
I ordered one just now xD I have 3 elite 2 Controllers already xD
I preordered the G7 SE and received it over a week ago. For the money I don’t think it can be beat. It’s a really nice controller for XsX! Looking forward to the polling rate update.
Can you over clock on Xbox?
@@thewitherslayer9669 not yet but 1000Hz update is coming.
@@HelveticaBold1 I was under the impression overclocking only worked on PC?
@@thewitherslayer9669 oh maybe you’re right. vCuda review made is seem like Xbox as well but I might be wrong.
@@thewitherslayer9669probably depends on if Xbox can recognize that high of a polling rate. The firmware is located on the controller.
My biggest issue with Microsoft brand xbox controllers is slow turn. Do you think this would be a good alternative to avoid slow turn. Or do you have a favorite controller for fps games?
Does this controller have anti friction rings
After doing some testing I find if I set the left thumbstick beyond the max 100% setting to Raw using the software app, I can better make them sharper tight Left & Right corners when I play Ride 4, it's a Cycle Bike game. If I lower it down more I just can't turn lean as far in any racing game at all.
Is this worth getting if you play mostly racing games. If you compare this to the original Xbox Series controller is there much difference when playing racing games?
@@inarisk The top triggers a little stiffer but I prefer that, I mostly race. I done a few none prime Twitch streams under the name: Mcfuryan
But out of all the racing games I have played the most touchy game is Mx-Bikes and I can tell it works vary well but I not streamed that yet or streamed Ride 4 and them cycle race games really need a vary good no drifting controller. it have not yet let me down.
I guess if it ever does I will edit this post after a few months. I got to say I enjoy the GameSir T4k as well and the GuliKit King Kong 2 pro controller and like how it feel's if you do the Firmware instructions right, but I wish I had never purchased the 2 xbox elites, purchased one one year and other I purchased a year after that, the Microsoft Xbox One Elite's, both had vary lose sticks that worked smooth But both got terrible Left stick drifting to the right. All the PowerA controllers also gotten stick drifts but did last longer before they starting stick drifting, but not on these 3 controllers yet. Maybe I will see next year.
Mx-Bikes is a massively collecting Tracks & Gear & Bikes game with endless addon Track Downloads that really works the controllers hard!. But game is only for the PC.
My games Mx-bikes, Forza Horizon 4&5, Ride 2&4, Baja Edge of control, Split/Second, Dakar Desert Rally, Gravel, Ridge Racer unbound, FlatOut 2, Gas Guzzlers Extreme, Monster Energy Supercross 3,5, Grid Legends, Project cars 3, Road Redemption (Road rash), The crew 2, NFS-Heat. So far I played all these using these three controllers, they worked well. GameSir G7SE and GameSir T4k, Gulikit King Kong 2 pro with the newest Gulikit NS09 Firmware.