30:15 token copies of permantents that have mana value also copy that mana value. A copy of the vehicle would have a 7 mana value which would trigger Scrap Trawler
I think one of my favorite Commander VS episodes of all time would be the Holiday Special episode where you all pranked Justin into thinking that everyone was getting randomly submitted decks but actually all the decks were dedicated mill decks (Justin HATED mill decks). Such a hilarious episode of incredible trolling!
Remember when Steven wasnt in the green tablemat? Great job at 400 guys!! Yall helped give MTG and commander the popularity it has today in a major way
@@crowsephonedangerzoneyou right. Definitely not how I would have played that game if I was either of the 3 loosing decks. I was really looking forward to seeing the phage deck play out.
The 43rd 4 player episode (skipping decktechs and recaps) is the season 3 Fourth of July episode in 2016 where Stephen plays numot (rude) or 34th episode since you started season 1 is the Halloween episode of 2016 Stephen plays dagatar.
Before the show starts I will say I will always love and reminisce the time of Justin, Jeremy, Jon and Stephen, but I'm glad the show has continued regardless. And I would love a guest episode of the current cast vs Justin in a horde or archenemy episode.
Always love seeing veteran players continue to goof on cards they've literally had in their decks forever. Jon never admitted to illegal plays all through trash talking Cory and Stephen.
Congratulations on the 400th episode, been slowly working my way back in time through your history over the last few months, happy to be a part of your community, looking forward to this game
Been watching since David McDarby used Jalira polymorph for a Stormtide Leviathan. Enjoyed every season, and look forward to seeing each video and the unique decks people come up with. From chairs and left-handed to Volrath OTK and Villainous Wealthing the entire table. Thank you all for the entertainment you provide weekly and congratulations on a, well-deserved, 400 episodes.
After having watched 400 episodes there have been arcs. Wesley Wise and Cheaty Face/Cryptic Command. Justin Parnell and Maren of Clan Nel Toth. Steven Green not on the green playmat. Steven Green holding grudges. John Suarez playing really old cards. Parnell and the bad politics. Jeremy joining the crew. Bearded Jeremy. Jeremy on the losing streak. Corey Baumeister learning commander. Corey being annoying. And all the win streaks that I can't remember what order they were in.
Congrats to the crew on 400 episodes!! I've been watching since the start of the four player games and you guys are the reason my friends got back into Magic this past year. So thank YOU for all the laughs and inspiration along the way 🤩
Been here since the two player days. Always loved it, always cheered for whoever plays against Stephen. Always loved Stephen though and still miss Mr Justin Parnell. sad he wasn't here for this.
I’ve been watching since the early two hundreds and then went back and binge watched all 200 previous episodes, you guys are part of why I got into commander and I will never miss an episode Gratz on 400. To many many more 🍻 🎉
Havent watched yet, but 1:20 in "Lets play whatever we like" and my mind was like "Damn, i hope 3 brought their pre-cons with their favorite theme and the 4th brought Blue-Farm".
Jeremy anmounces his "secret commander" I instantly hope he pulls it off. I built the same secret commander with Surrak Dragonclaw in the zone. It's fun, really tricky to play, and I think I've pulled it off once, maybe twice.
Jon with the cheating again. Shizo don't do that. I definitely don't know that card's text from personally having to point it out in a game in my pod so I didn't lose. Card has never been played wrong 🤣
I don't know which number the episode has, but i really love the episode whrere Jeremy plays a livegain deck and gets over 500 live, and Steven played an all Spirits & Arcane matters deck with so much synergies. Also, congrats to your 400 episodes, hope to see at least 400 more ;-).
43 seems to be S5E9 from Nov 30, 2016 (starting and going with # episodes only). Justin Parnell on Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis, Jeremy Noell on Momir Vig Simic Visionary, Jonathan Suarez on Zur the Enchanter, and Stephen Green on Isamaru Hound of Konda. Stephen and Jeremy die at the same time as the "first" out.
The craziest part of John's shizo cheat is that he went back and read shizo so he could tell the table what fear is.... Start giving out like minus 3 points whenever someone cheats that blatantly
At 39 minutes Cory missed lethal on john and Jeremy by not using his commander to make a copy of the reaver titan and then have bruvaclad turn them all into that copy. It would have done 25 damage just on declaring attackers
Has anyone notice the average deck from EDHrec has more removal than all other deck put together? Cory abused the stones but it read draw 2 etb copyable for myshra he would use it.
Then John cheats an extra land into play on top of it. Starts the turn, plays shizo as land. Gives fear to an illegal target, gets hosed by Stephen, searches his land as part of the kill spells resolution, then plays an additional swamp on top of it before passing. I like John but that's just ridiculous
Alright I have a rules question. Although reaver titan is a vehicle with the crew ability, by copying it with Mishra, making it a Warform, doesn't it no longer need to be crewed? Since it now has the artifact creature typing?
can we talk about how when Corey had Mishra, Eminent One; Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer and Reaver Titan he could have just ended the game. Mishra makes a token copy of Reaver Titan, then Brudiclad turns all tokens into Reaver Titan and he attacks and nearly wins the game right before that damnation. If he had started the process a turn earlier he would have won. The misplays lads.
Its ok friend He had plenty of misplays, All of the tokens had CMC's (as copies copy the exact card except what changes) he could be drawing off the mindstone since turn 3 and the damnation gets back everything but brudiclad
Jon, the cheater, complains about Steven misreading ANOTHER player's card, while HE conveniently misreads HIS OWN CARD. The only one completely faultless this episode is Jeremy.
So can anyone tell me *why* Jon hates the D&D cards so much? Is it just because they weren't *super* strong for commander (Minus a few cards)? or does he just have the 90s "D&D is the devil's game" mindset? Like.. what's the issue?
The only person who didn't cheat in this episode that we can see is Jeremy. John targeted and non-Legendary creature with Shizo, Stephen blocked with an ineligible creature, and Cory played a card with white in its color identity(Mightstone and Weakstone has a color indicator on the backside).
@@davidrosenberg9615 It's specifically a rule about Meld cards, other cards with flipsides have no bearing on this. You can 'just saying' whatever you feel like but that doesn't change the rules set out by WotC :P It's even on the M&W's Gatherer page: "In the Commander variant, a meld card's color identity is determined only by the mana costs and mana symbols in the rules text of its front face. No symbols or rules text of the permanent it melds into are considered."
John’s reactions in this episode were priceless.😂🤣😂 After he helped Corey multiple times this episode avoid mistakes that would have hurt himself, another mistake ends up costing John. John looked so hurt. lol So maybe…just maybe, they will learn their lessons and stop basically playing Corey’s decks for him! It’s been going on too long, comments have complained about it non stop, and he is no longer a ‘new’ Commander player. His reading and comprehension of Magic cards seems incredibly poor for someone who has played on the Pro tour. It’s time for him to “read the card and explain the card” FOR HIMSELF!
Think my favorite episode involves justin parnell and he tries to cast a spell targeting his graveyard and instead of targeting the threat john exiles justins graveyard and goes you cast what and he responds with i cast.....F#ck you.
Is it truly "Anything Goes" though? The decks dont have any banned cards or you guys aren't using anything as your commander or partner anything. So I guess I'm confused by what anything goes means
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I actually have been here since the beginning. Crazy that its been 400 episodes.
Glad to have you along! Here's to 400 more!
400 club what’s up
Same. I remember the Ol’ Wes Wise days. I miss him and Justin. Would be really cool to get an episode with them. Hope they are doing well.
30:15 token copies of permantents that have mana value also copy that mana value. A copy of the vehicle would have a 7 mana value which would trigger Scrap Trawler
Was looking to see if someone posted this
I think one of my favorite Commander VS episodes of all time would be the Holiday Special episode where you all pranked Justin into thinking that everyone was getting randomly submitted decks but actually all the decks were dedicated mill decks (Justin HATED mill decks).
Such a hilarious episode of incredible trolling!
I forgot about that episode. Do you remember which episode that is?
@@junior2428 No I do not. I tried looking for it earlier but I couldn't find it in the playlist and I don't remember the specific name of it.
@@junior2428 found it.
th-cam.com/video/gHQlr_Ct6Kc/w-d-xo.html
Edit: forgot to post link first time... whoops!
@@matthewbeard7841 the parnell era of com vs was by far the best era
@@junior2428 I found it! S9E5! th-cam.com/video/gHQlr_Ct6Kc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_ZloFTqPovgal0Ce
Remember when Steven wasnt in the green tablemat?
Great job at 400 guys!! Yall helped give MTG and commander the popularity it has today in a major way
John is going on about Steven after he gave a non-legendary nakano revenant fear with shisho death's storehouse
That's true
reading is hard
Came here to say the same 😂😂
He was complaining about everyone calling him out for cheating claiming steven cheated when in reality he cheated. And he does it all the time
Funny part is it's a well known card too so it's crazy that no one caught it.
shizo death's storehouse can't target nirkana revenant - it only targets legendary creatures
I was wondering if anyone else caught that. 😅😅
@@natelagrassa9337 there were so many things going wrong in that sequence lmao
@@crowsephonedangerzoneyou right. Definitely not how I would have played that game if I was either of the 3 loosing decks. I was really looking forward to seeing the phage deck play out.
The 43rd 4 player episode (skipping decktechs and recaps) is the season 3 Fourth of July episode in 2016 where Stephen plays numot (rude) or 34th episode since you started season 1 is the Halloween episode of 2016 Stephen plays dagatar.
Before the show starts I will say I will always love and reminisce the time of Justin, Jeremy, Jon and Stephen, but I'm glad the show has continued regardless. And I would love a guest episode of the current cast vs Justin in a horde or archenemy episode.
Always love seeing veteran players continue to goof on cards they've literally had in their decks forever. Jon never admitted to illegal plays all through trash talking Cory and Stephen.
Congratulations on the 400th episode, been slowly working my way back in time through your history over the last few months, happy to be a part of your community, looking forward to this game
John with the typical mono black saltiness was good stuff lol
Been watching since David McDarby used Jalira polymorph for a Stormtide Leviathan. Enjoyed every season, and look forward to seeing each video and the unique decks people come up with. From chairs and left-handed to Volrath OTK and Villainous Wealthing the entire table. Thank you all for the entertainment you provide weekly and congratulations on a, well-deserved, 400 episodes.
The Chair tribal deck is still my favourite, an absolute classic of magic the gathering content creation.
Congrats on 400! Feels like so much and still not enough. lol love the content guys! Thanks for providing it!
After having watched 400 episodes there have been arcs.
Wesley Wise and Cheaty Face/Cryptic Command.
Justin Parnell and Maren of Clan Nel Toth.
Steven Green not on the green playmat.
Steven Green holding grudges.
John Suarez playing really old cards.
Parnell and the bad politics.
Jeremy joining the crew.
Bearded Jeremy.
Jeremy on the losing streak.
Corey Baumeister learning commander.
Corey being annoying.
And all the win streaks that I can't remember what order they were in.
Don’t forget Justin getting milled!
Congrats to the crew on 400 episodes!! I've been watching since the start of the four player games and you guys are the reason my friends got back into Magic this past year. So thank YOU for all the laughs and inspiration along the way 🤩
Im a simple man. I see Phage, and im clicking.
Congrats on the 4 hundo
Been here since the two player days. Always loved it, always cheered for whoever plays against Stephen. Always loved Stephen though and still miss Mr Justin Parnell. sad he wasn't here for this.
Way to make me feel old guys. I've been watching since you guys started the 4 player games
400 episodes! That is crazy! I have seen all of them and I am so thankful for this show!
Congratulations on 400 guys 🎉
Corey just refusing to win the game repeatedly, nearly every single turn after the halfway point, is wild.
He gets so excited and then pays zero attention to his lines haha
I’ve been watching since the early two hundreds and then went back and binge watched all 200 previous episodes, you guys are part of why I got into commander and I will never miss an episode Gratz on 400. To many many more 🍻 🎉
Congrats, y’all. ‘Been watching for YEARS, but y’all should be so proud of yourselves. Say hi to JP for me 🎉
Love this series guys, hope it continues for another 400! Here’s to the future :)
Congrats on the amount of episodes!!! Still have my fingers crossed my deck gets played!!
I’ve been watching commander vs since it started with the two people commander. I love the channel
Havent watched yet, but 1:20 in "Lets play whatever we like" and my mind was like "Damn, i hope 3 brought their pre-cons with their favorite theme and the 4th brought Blue-Farm".
Jeremy anmounces his "secret commander" I instantly hope he pulls it off. I built the same secret commander with Surrak Dragonclaw in the zone. It's fun, really tricky to play, and I think I've pulled it off once, maybe twice.
Congrats on 400
Never can seem to find the 4 player season 1. But really such a wild 8 years some of us have been watching the show. Wild!
I also have a Animar and primal surge permanents only deck, and it’s so damn fun, this made me very happy
Jon with the cheating again. Shizo don't do that. I definitely don't know that card's text from personally having to point it out in a game in my pod so I didn't lose. Card has never been played wrong 🤣
400 episodes! Congrats, and its been so long.
I don't know which number the episode has, but i really love the episode whrere Jeremy plays a livegain deck and gets over 500 live, and Steven played an all Spirits & Arcane matters deck with so much synergies.
Also, congrats to your 400 episodes, hope to see at least 400 more ;-).
Tokens have a mana value if the tokens are copies of a card
43 seems to be S5E9 from Nov 30, 2016 (starting and going with # episodes only). Justin Parnell on Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis, Jeremy Noell on Momir Vig Simic Visionary, Jonathan Suarez on Zur the Enchanter, and Stephen Green on Isamaru Hound of Konda. Stephen and Jeremy die at the same time as the "first" out.
Corey really sleeping on the Mishra, Reaver Titan, Brudiclad line.
The craziest part of John's shizo cheat is that he went back and read shizo so he could tell the table what fear is.... Start giving out like minus 3 points whenever someone cheats that blatantly
ConGratz to 400 episodes!
At 39 minutes Cory missed lethal on john and Jeremy by not using his commander to make a copy of the reaver titan and then have bruvaclad turn them all into that copy. It would have done 25 damage just on declaring attackers
@SCGCommander Can we get an episode where the director sneaks some Uno cards into your decks 😂😂😂😂
Been here since dave mcdarby and danny west, great show, keep it up
Look forward to these videos every Wednesday!
Balls. I submitted a decklist for Jeremy that was a Temur Primal Surge list.
He couldn't block the warhammer mech though, it has protection
also Brudiclad is a Manatory trigger so all tokens would have to become something
I feel like Corey brought an assault rifle to a butter knife fight
400th episode should of brought back the GOAT, justin parnell
I got the Saheeli deck where Brudiclad was the alt commander. Jon is correct, that card is unfair.
1:04:12 Truer words were never spoken. (This should be a button.)
John pouting because he couldn't get a one-shot kill even though he was playing illegally anyways. What a sore loser.
Has anyone notice the average deck from EDHrec has more removal than all other deck put together? Cory abused the stones but it read draw 2 etb copyable for myshra he would use it.
Then John cheats an extra land into play on top of it. Starts the turn, plays shizo as land. Gives fear to an illegal target, gets hosed by Stephen, searches his land as part of the kill spells resolution, then plays an additional swamp on top of it before passing. I like John but that's just ridiculous
Maybe you guys could try playing with shock bracelets and get shocked for each time you do a wrong by the rules.
That misha changes the name of the card it makes a token of so you can copy the legendary ones and not sac based off the wording on this version
Alright I have a rules question. Although reaver titan is a vehicle with the crew ability, by copying it with Mishra, making it a Warform, doesn't it no longer need to be crewed? Since it now has the artifact creature typing?
Correct. The mishra's warform does not need to be crewed.
can we talk about how when Corey had Mishra, Eminent One; Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer and Reaver Titan he could have just ended the game. Mishra makes a token copy of Reaver Titan, then Brudiclad turns all tokens into Reaver Titan and he attacks and nearly wins the game right before that damnation. If he had started the process a turn earlier he would have won. The misplays lads.
Its ok friend He had plenty of misplays, All of the tokens had CMC's (as copies copy the exact card except what changes) he could be drawing off the mindstone since turn 3 and the damnation gets back everything but brudiclad
Corey always looks like a completely different person after a haircut.
That episode hurt my brain. SHAME ON STEVEN for saving Jeremy. Steven of old would have watched him die.
Eladamri can't block Reaver Titan because it has protection from mana value 3 or less.
I binged all
who would most likely have fun with a deck full of fogs?
Like, comment, share, subscribe, binge, be about a week late, and ring in a historic episode
Jon has an ocean of salt in this game
Jon, the cheater, complains about Steven misreading ANOTHER player's card, while HE conveniently misreads HIS OWN CARD. The only one completely faultless this episode is Jeremy.
Hey I hope you guys bring back purnell, or maybe swap one of the guys on occasion for a guest
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Remember when they counted seasons on their fingers?
Y'all should do a game where you're encouraged to cheat.
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I miss Wes and Justin...
John minussin Corey's life at the end. His face had me geekin.
I made Primal Surge wins happen once or twice, and they are the most hysteric things you can imagine.
Where are the Assassins Creed decks? 😭
We heard you and it's added to the schedule...
So can anyone tell me *why* Jon hates the D&D cards so much? Is it just because they weren't *super* strong for commander (Minus a few cards)? or does he just have the 90s "D&D is the devil's game" mindset? Like.. what's the issue?
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The only person who didn't cheat in this episode that we can see is Jeremy. John targeted and non-Legendary creature with Shizo, Stephen blocked with an ineligible creature, and Cory played a card with white in its color identity(Mightstone and Weakstone has a color indicator on the backside).
mightstone and weakstone (and meld cards in general) only consider the mana symbols on their front face in commander
Mightstone and weakstone is colorless
@@ItHatWhat Just saying, if Mightstone/Weakstone aren't UW, then cards with transform should only be the color on the front side.
@@davidrosenberg9615 It's specifically a rule about Meld cards, other cards with flipsides have no bearing on this. You can 'just saying' whatever you feel like but that doesn't change the rules set out by WotC :P It's even on the M&W's Gatherer page: "In the Commander variant, a meld card's color identity is determined only by the mana costs and mana symbols in the rules text of its front face. No symbols or rules text of the permanent it melds into are considered."
@@Awesomesausages Oh, I understand the rule. I just dislike it's inconsistency.
copies also compies cmc so ´.
7:59 John is capping I used own that card of course I had prorate but I have got the - and type added 4 is good I must say
John’s reactions in this episode were priceless.😂🤣😂 After he helped Corey multiple times this episode avoid mistakes that would have hurt himself, another mistake ends up costing John. John looked so hurt. lol So maybe…just maybe, they will learn their lessons and stop basically playing Corey’s decks for him! It’s been going on too long, comments have complained about it non stop, and he is no longer a ‘new’ Commander player. His reading and comprehension of Magic cards seems incredibly poor for someone who has played on the Pro tour. It’s time for him to “read the card and explain the card” FOR HIMSELF!
PTSD let me guess Elf’s win
Think my favorite episode involves justin parnell and he tries to cast a spell targeting his graveyard and instead of targeting the threat john exiles justins graveyard and goes you cast what and he responds with i cast.....F#ck you.
Disgusting. That’s the only word to describe the things Corey did in this game. Dis. Gust. Ing.
Im positive Jon would suck to play with. Just a manipulator/liar and actually cheated this game my goodness
Is it truly "Anything Goes" though? The decks dont have any banned cards or you guys aren't using anything as your commander or partner anything. So I guess I'm confused by what anything goes means
"Anything goes" in the context of their predominately set-related content. They're not making themselves use current cards is all