Mysterious Hidden Roles! | Commander VS | Zurgo and Ojutai vs Omnath vs Yarok vs Voja

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  • @SCGCommander
    @SCGCommander  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Decklists! articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/commander-vs-393-mystery-of-the-hidden-roles/

  • @abgelaufenes
    @abgelaufenes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    Unless it comes up later, Jeremy's +1 for being the first player to have 5 lands in play seems to have been forgotten.

    • @VBane
      @VBane 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      John had his Felwar in with his lands which made it look like we had 5 lands which is probably why.

    • @willb8745
      @willb8745 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Wouldn’t be a game of Magic without at least one missed trigger 😂

    • @brendan8114
      @brendan8114 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it could also just be being read by them as 5 mana sources instead of just lands

    • @bram0000
      @bram0000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I noticed this as well

  • @nickjoseph77
    @nickjoseph77 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    These hidden roles and +1/-1 golf points completely up to the director are great!

  • @Chooch1080
    @Chooch1080 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Loved seeing Director Justin on screen. Y'all should give him his own camera during games lol

  • @TheModernPost
    @TheModernPost 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You guys put so much work into the theme for the episode, it was really unique. Loved it!

  • @cptfrieh9602
    @cptfrieh9602 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I think it'd be really funny to have a whole season of hidden roles

  • @SilverDrgn14
    @SilverDrgn14 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Jeremy was the first player with 5 lands in play and never got his card. It was probably missed because Jon's fellwar stone was with his lands.

    • @wer227
      @wer227 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But 0.5 points are more chaotic and fun :)

  • @abrahamschultz9545
    @abrahamschultz9545 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It was hilarious!!!! Totally down for more.

  • @mtgdads5590
    @mtgdads5590 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very entertaining. I loved this idea. Would not mind to see another episode this season with Director stipulating his own rules.

  • @tylergraham8200
    @tylergraham8200 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    really the greatest take on hidden roles, great game! Go green!

  • @theoakgrovesquirrel3002
    @theoakgrovesquirrel3002 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Director Justin! You should have a season wide bingo of these that you have for each of the boys and if you get a bingo on their board they get a point at the end of the season. They don't know anything about this and just get extra points at the end of the season

  • @Keos027
    @Keos027 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    around 20:40 - When Corey hit with Sarkhan and Z&O, he would have had 4 triggers and not just two

  • @DanielRedMoon
    @DanielRedMoon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Quite liked it.
    Should make the entire season around hidden roles and half-points.

  • @allstarjason
    @allstarjason 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really fun episode, would love to see more hidden roles episodes.

  • @paulizard2417
    @paulizard2417 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Jeremy was also first to sing a snippet of a song when he sung the theme to fresh prince

    • @RobotButlerJ
      @RobotButlerJ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Technically, I think him and Corey sang at the same time

    • @kylemartin7871
      @kylemartin7871 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think that would count as singing but I haven't watched the whole episode, so if they count quoting later then yes you'd be right i think.

    • @MunchKING
      @MunchKING 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought that, but that wasn't really singing. He spoke it with a minimum of tone or tune.

  • @WayneyMTG
    @WayneyMTG 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a really fun idea, Corey's first turn was hilarious, just what I needed to start my day 😂 looking forward to this game

  • @JudgmentDragon25
    @JudgmentDragon25 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love to see more hidden roles. Adds chaos and fun to the mix.

  • @icedphat
    @icedphat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    More plz! Just missed the 5 land role for jeremy :( changed the outcome pf points at the end too

  • @MrBojangles1984
    @MrBojangles1984 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the hidden roles. I can't wait to see what happens in this game

  • @Ricardo-zo1ti
    @Ricardo-zo1ti 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Props to the editor, great ideas!

  • @waynescully9083
    @waynescully9083 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    BRILLIANT! BRAVO DIRECTOR!

  • @rei336
    @rei336 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the concept of these hidden roles. Just hopefully next time they don't miss something like Jeremy getting 5 lands first while Jon had his mana rock with his lands.

  • @kandjar
    @kandjar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this!!! You should do it for every first game of a season!!

  • @Kerrai
    @Kerrai 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well i had a blast watching this, this is my kind of commander and i hope we see more of it. Maybe even bring back Chaos Draft Commander ;)?

  • @ShroudedBlade
    @ShroudedBlade 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice, this is an awesome rule subset!

  • @nemoforever
    @nemoforever 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like this style of hidden roles! It was hilarious when the match was stopped. Maybe it'd be even funnier if we the audience, like the players, don't know the roles either.

  • @garrettleblanc7926
    @garrettleblanc7926 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The hidden roles is always fun when you guys do it

  • @CptObvs408
    @CptObvs408 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    45:35 Jon scryed 2 instead of giving a creature +4/+4 😢

  • @MunchKING
    @MunchKING 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought Hidden Rules Vanguard was a pretty cool thing to do for episodes, and look forward to more.

  • @doulosdphi
    @doulosdphi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was a great episode! Should do this again!

  • @jacksonleinweber3194
    @jacksonleinweber3194 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Deflecting Swat wouldn't target Voja, it would target the Annie Joins Up and CHANGE its target to Voja making ward trigger and make John responsible for paying 3 or it getting countered. Cory would not have to pay 3 since nothing he controls targets Voja.

    • @Tyfont
      @Tyfont 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Corey also could have targeted himself with the draw two ability, because deflecting swat lets you change all targets for a spell.

  • @Azraell01
    @Azraell01 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Stephen should have gotten the bonus point as Jeremy was at one point thanks to being the first to control 5 lands. Which the director missed sadly thanks to John keeping the Felwar stone in his lands pile.

    • @Ninguin
      @Ninguin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If we are being fair, at the end, Stephen was drumming his fingers on the table so it works itself out either way.

  • @awboqm
    @awboqm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like how Corey brags about his time in the pro tour but doesn’t know how Sarkhan works

  • @revengedealer
    @revengedealer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was great.

  • @Arkusum
    @Arkusum 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool video! I think it would be less confusing if positive points were good and negative points were bad, if you do this again

  • @CyberNewType
    @CyberNewType 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good episode. Funny

  • @bram0000
    @bram0000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do feel like these hidden roles would have been fun to have a hidden objective for a bonus point for each, make it like RISK where they get to grab 3 and then choose which one they want to try to do in this game for the bonus point... means they could get 3 crappy ones and not even try for it or they could get a super simple one for a bonus point, all random.

  • @SpawnSterr
    @SpawnSterr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the twist on this, great idea

  • @PeteB90
    @PeteB90 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    double the Avacyn, double the faith XD

  • @deanlucero1798
    @deanlucero1798 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These episodes always slap I love the idea of hidden roles!

  • @noblemcmaster
    @noblemcmaster 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jon could have survived when Steven swung at him right? Unless I’m missing something only Voja tramples 1:28:47

  • @jewpcabra666
    @jewpcabra666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love the rocket league shirt director :)

  • @rocketrae21
    @rocketrae21 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem with the Jon penalty on pump fake, is he doesn't have something he can do. Is thinking about something pump faking?

  • @Alejandrodemontana
    @Alejandrodemontana 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Director Justin killing it with the rules dude

  • @eljerado5553
    @eljerado5553 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if for Fan Requests the commanders are face down and they can't cast them till they can guess what they're commander is. Director gets to pick who plays what deck

  • @Hirroth
    @Hirroth 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seeing Ippo on the karaoke token made me smile.

  • @Belena711
    @Belena711 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was fantastic. Lol

  • @nemoforever
    @nemoforever 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jon's hidden card should have been Venser :P

  • @Gunnarr123abc
    @Gunnarr123abc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    was there any way stephen could have saved corey with lightning bolt for the attack of 16? to farm a point? I am not sure if any of jons creatures were under 3 toughness

  • @geraldvosburg9458
    @geraldvosburg9458 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this do more

  • @nonames6179
    @nonames6179 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    45:38 am i missing something or should jon not have scryed two off of angel of rebirth. Its not blue so it would not trigger that ability off of aragorn.

  • @aurabullet4128
    @aurabullet4128 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Secret rolls are my favorite episodes.

  • @TheFunkmaster5000
    @TheFunkmaster5000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We need to send a big bell for Cory!

  • @Josh-ik5zg
    @Josh-ik5zg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    just a fun tidbit; when corey used deflecting swat @42:29 he could have chosen Voja and jon would have had to pay the ward costs, not corey. he still could have chosen not to pay and let it be countered but it's an interesting choice to have to make.

  • @vincentaponte5726
    @vincentaponte5726 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With all the love but last I checked Jon, Eragon is a book about dragons and AraGORN is the king of Gondor 🤣. I know what you meant but my nerd self cant unhear the lack of the second "R"

  • @Zuzar-
    @Zuzar- หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stephen the dwarf sittning there writing in his big book of grudges

  • @Alejandrodemontana
    @Alejandrodemontana 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There should be a role for targeting Corey first.

  • @davidgraff443
    @davidgraff443 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was great.
    But IMO not nearly enough hidden roles... there should have been 15 generic at minimum and 3 each for each player. The points should have been flying. Also I feel like some should have had additional effects other than just points, like giving them tokens, drawing cards or additional penalties depending on what they were.

  • @ImJustHereToWatch14
    @ImJustHereToWatch14 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I do love any excuse for Cheatyface to make an appearance, but Corey having Yorion as his card, which he could cast like companion's original rules, would have been so on brand.

  • @crowsephonedangerzone
    @crowsephonedangerzone 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    guessing the judge-directors missed jeremy's five lands because jon had a fellwar stone and four lands
    also all will be one deals damage based on the number of counters, even though it says "one or more" for the trigger of the ability

  • @walrider8073
    @walrider8073 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    fun idear

  • @gianniniolu2218
    @gianniniolu2218 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    By far one of the best episodes in recently memory

  • @Skream1185
    @Skream1185 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cheatyface is amazing.

  • @atomskpk997
    @atomskpk997 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doesn't the Annie joins trigger multiple times or is only legendary creatures?

    • @alsaker13
      @alsaker13 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only legendary creatures

  • @RobotButlerJ
    @RobotButlerJ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jeremy coming in 2nd and Jon being very serious about killing Corey....if this continues each episode than this could be an amazing season! Great episode theme, director!

  • @alucarddelta6576
    @alucarddelta6576 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    .5 points for pregame actions now xD

  • @trevorpeters4976
    @trevorpeters4976 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Like, comment, don't share your role, share this video, subscribe, binge, and ring a ding the bell

  • @atomskpk997
    @atomskpk997 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is Corey my simian spirit guide?

  • @mauricefranklin1590
    @mauricefranklin1590 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Steven should of got john point for pump faking lol

  • @ngdreaper1647
    @ngdreaper1647 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This season should be the season of secret roles and conditions just to spice it up and keep everyone on their toes. Seemed like a lot of fun for everyone including Director Justin, maybe have a bunch of made up ones and randomly pick them and have 4-5 Justin gets to pick to make it super spicy. Great start of the season!

  • @Serinite2226
    @Serinite2226 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jeremy needs to start playing for points.

  • @GrandDungeonDad
    @GrandDungeonDad 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jeremy bring bearded Jeremy back and the aggro player thats missing :-)

  • @TedMattos
    @TedMattos 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You know... I wanted to send Corey a bell, but when I emailed SCG to ask how I could send presents to these guys, I never got a response. :(

    • @Gunnarr123abc
      @Gunnarr123abc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      they just didn't want him to have the bell!! (really you should probably just mail it to their location in Roanoke with a NOTE explaining what to do with it)

    • @TedMattos
      @TedMattos 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Gunnarr123abc Hmm, I'll have to see if I can find their mailing address. :)

  • @alucarddelta6576
    @alucarddelta6576 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So wats the links everyone uses to submit their decks. Like moxfield or starcity, mtg goldfish?

  • @Dark-Pikachu1
    @Dark-Pikachu1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When he said raining I heard thunder outside

  • @jjcc8379
    @jjcc8379 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Voja is too pushed :(

  • @famousstranger8468
    @famousstranger8468 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gameplay starts at 9:19 (no more annoying cut a ways)

  • @Healinda
    @Healinda 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The Cory witch hunt is getting a little old, everyone is after him every episode now :( Getting old!

    • @greyfoxadventures4625
      @greyfoxadventures4625 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When you become a problem, you get delt with. There's no witch hunt going on.

  • @matthewfrederick9959
    @matthewfrederick9959 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jon: I'm gonna play good magic and I don't care what anyone says.
    Corey: I'm gonna play with good magic, sure hope it's OK with the table.
    Jon: you played good magic so I'm gonna make Steven and Jeremy follow my rules.
    Steven and jeremy: we will just sit here and let Jon do whatever he wants again lol.

  • @MangekyouUchiha
    @MangekyouUchiha 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shocker, Volja wins thanks to Ward 3 being a thing.

  • @Dark-Pikachu1
    @Dark-Pikachu1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    54:34 Yavimaya Dryad will

  • @Therealstoney85
    @Therealstoney85 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another season of commander vs and it’s nice to see that Steven and Jon are off their periods and letting Corey play and have a somewhat board state but I will not be surprised that later on in the season they gang up on Corey again because the they’re all witches with a b

  • @marvinrose6273
    @marvinrose6273 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    John has become a steven clone he is such a pity little $itch the last few seasons