Mecca Didn't Exist - It Had No Water! - More Meccan Problems with Dr. Jay - Episode 3
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- The city of Mecca is located amidst a vast desert region where there is no water. Where there is no water there is no vegetation, people, towns, cities, civilization, and no history, yet Muslims insist that Mecca’s current location has been a place of great historical importance and the origin of the religion. This simply cannot be. Watch as Al Fadi and Dr. Jay examine topographical maps to prove that Mecca could not have thrived where it is located in the south. Dr. Jay insists that Islam cannot exist without Mecca, so if the Mecca of the Quran isn’t real… then neither is Muhammad or Islam.
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God bless Al Fadi, his team and his family. Thank you so much for this extensive information. Prayers for people to accept these truths and be set free from confusion.
Only extensive thing coming out of this information is bullshit
Ever heard of the Libyan aquifer?
@@friedpickles342 Ever heard of a paedophile being revered by a lot of people?
Amen
another disinformation video by Al Fadi , Las Vegas has no water either but it is one of he biggest cities in the world but Mecca does have water , its called underground water wells , people also fish in mecca , if you dig deep enough you can fish in some parts
So as a Christian myself born in the country of Angola , I was always happy with the respect Muslims showed towards me and Christians and so I asked one of the Church leaders in South Africa when I moved to Cape Town in South Africa from Angola and he said that when the early Muslim followers fled the city in Arabia , they were protected by Christian kings because the leaders in Arabia wanted to put them on trail for promoting Islam and I didn't know that . As a Christian I want to thank the South African government for banning hate speech and I want to thank the Muslim community in South Africa for helping our Church with parking spots since we would always would run out of parking space on Sundays and they allowed us to park in their spot .
Again on behalf of al fadi and david wood , I wanted to apologize to TH-cam viewers for the disinformation being promoted by al fadi and david wood , also don't forget to dislike this video and and block the channel , thank you and again I apologize
💙💙💙🌍🌎🌏
No water. Mecca gives bitter waters.
Jesus gives living water. 🙏🙏🙏
The Mega Aquifer System (MAS) is one of the largest aquifer systems in the world, underlying the extreme deserts of the Arabian Peninsula and crossing borders between Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Jordan, Oman, Yemen, and the United Arab Emirates
@@friedpickles342 that's not even close to mecca the hoax.
@@friedpickles342 Okay and? Did they have that MAS system in the Hijaz in 650?
@@ic.xc. yeah they dug it with their spoons 😂
@@nemesis1291 I know right? Scientists today know exactly where it was back then. And knew exactly how the pyramids were built to.
I’ve been saying it for years. Important civilizations were always by sources of water.
ever heard of the Nubian Sandstone Aquifer System? You're welcome . .
@@friedpickles342 Sure you're not a muslim ? Dont lie before God now ... 😆
Another disinformation video by Al Fadi , Las Vegas has no water either but it is one of he biggest cities in the world but Mecca does have water , its called underground water wells , people also fish in mecca , if you dig deep enough you can fish in some parts , I've seen people fish and fry their fish in the middle of the desert with oil and spices
So as a Christian myself born in the country of Angola , I was always happy with the respect Muslims showed towards me and Christians and so I asked one of the Church leaders in South Africa when I moved to Cape Town in South Africa from Angola and he said that when the early Muslim followers fled the city in Arabia , they were protected by Christian kings because the leaders in Arabia wanted to put them on trail for promoting Islam and I didn't know that . As a Christian I want to thank the South African government for banning hate speech and I want to thank the Muslim community in South Africa for helping our Church with parking spots since we would always would run out of parking space on Sundays and they allowed us to park in their spot .
Again on behalf of al fadi and david wood , I wanted to apologize to TH-cam viewers for the disinformation being promoted by al fadi and david wood , also don't forget to dislike this video and and block the channel , thank you and again I apologize .
Christian standard narrative is sketchy why we don't have the original gospel in aramaic and theres so many different bibles
Where did you go shlomo?
I learn new things from you always and I'm grateful, Brother Al Fadi and Brother Jay Smith.
You learn bull from them
Another disinformation video by Al Fadi , Las Vegas has no water either but it is one of he biggest cities in the world but Mecca does have water , its called underground water wells , people also fish in mecca , if you dig deep enough you can fish in some parts , I've seen people fish and fry their fish in the middle of the desert with oil and spices
So as a Christian myself born in the country of Angola , I was always happy with the respect Muslims showed towards me and Christians and so I asked one of the Church leaders in South Africa when I moved to Cape Town in South Africa from Angola and he said that when the early Muslim followers fled the city in Arabia , they were protected by Christian kings because the leaders in Arabia wanted to put them on trail for promoting Islam and I didn't know that . As a Christian I want to thank the South African government for banning hate speech and I want to thank the Muslim community in South Africa for helping our Church with parking spots since we would always would run out of parking space on Sundays and they allowed us to park in their spot .
Again on behalf of al fadi and david wood , I wanted to apologize to TH-cam viewers for the disinformation being promoted by al fadi and david wood , also don't forget to dislike this video and and block the channel , thank you and again I apologize
@@friedpickles342 Don't get mad, get informed!
Christianity is sketchy why so many different bibles with missing verses
@@sinabagherisarvestani8924
Read the context in the days of Mohammed when people did not carry out any water digging or harvesting.
People followed or settled near water routes, mecca claims that 300 prophets were burried around the black kaaba in a praying position,
This show is to proove that at that time no human being settled in mecca.even in history we read more of medina
Such straightforward common sense.
Al Fadi & Dr. Jay, GOD bless you both and all of yours... 🙏🙏🙏
Common sense dictates that you are gullible to believe their lies.
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Another disinformation video by Al Fadi , Las Vegas has no water either but it is one of he biggest cities in the world with several churches and mosques and casinos and entertainment venues and native American sites but Mecca does have water , its called underground water wells , people also fish in mecca , if you dig deep enough you can fish in some parts , I've seen people fish and fry their fish in the middle of the desert with oil and spices , imagine fishing in a desert like death valley , well its possible in some parts of Mecca
So as a Christian myself born in the country of Angola , I was always happy with the respect Muslims showed towards me and Christians and so I asked one of the Church leaders in South Africa when I moved to Cape Town in South Africa from Angola and he said that when the early Muslim followers fled the city in Arabia , they were protected by Christian kings because the leaders in Arabia wanted to put them on trail for promoting Islam and I didn't know that . As a Christian I want to thank the South African government for banning hate speech and I want to thank the Muslim community in South Africa for helping our Church with parking spots since we would always would run out of parking space on Sundays and they allowed us to park in their spot .
Again on behalf of al fadi and david wood , I wanted to apologize to TH-cam viewers for the disinformation being promoted by al fadi and david wood , also don't forget to dislike this video and and block the channel , thank you and again I apologize .
Islam is a religion of peace , for more than a thousand years people have been fascinated about Islam's message of peace and I have great respect for Islam
I pray for your full recovery Al Fadi. God bless both of you, your families, and your teams. At some point islam is going to collapse due to the muslimettes asking questions.
Amen, let us pray their hearts will accept the truth and their minds be set free of this confusion. Dear Lord, set the people free!! 😊
Pagan Christianity cult is dying only a pagan fool like you will buy this lies.
Another disinformation video by Al Fadi , Las Vegas has no water either but it is one of he biggest cities in the world but Mecca does have water , its called underground water wells , people also fish in mecca , if you dig deep enough you can fish in some parts , I've seen people fish and fry their fish in the middle of the desert with oil and spices
So as a Christian myself born in the country of Angola , I was always happy with the respect Muslims showed towards me and Christians and so I asked one of the Church leaders in South Africa when I moved to Cape Town in South Africa from Angola and he said that when the early Muslim followers fled the city in Arabia , they were protected by Christian kings because the leaders in Arabia wanted to put them on trail for promoting Islam and I didn't know that . As a Christian I want to thank the South African government for banning hate speech and I want to thank the Muslim community in South Africa for helping our Church with parking spots since we would always would run out of parking space on Sundays and they allowed us to park in their spot .
Again on behalf of al fadi and david wood , I wanted to apologize to TH-cam viewers for the disinformation being promoted by al fadi and david wood , also don't forget to dislike this video and and block the channel , thank you and again I apologize .
@@Karmel8503 Islam is the truth and the way
Keep on day dreaming that Islam will collapse
Im sick and tired of getting Islamic advertising before your videos.
Specially the one that is asking for donations to buy a 2 million dollar church to convert to a mosque!!!!
Really UTUBE
this is pathetic.
I remember being annoyed by advertisments about supporting Israel .. Talk about being sick and tired. . Since 1948 they've been destroying the middle east
I totally agree!
God bless, continue your work to exposed more truth about islam.
They are the vilest liars.th-cam.com/video/__ww6x0Rq8M/w-d-xo.html DID MOSES GO TO MECCA? DID MOSES PREFORM HAJJ?
th-cam.com/video/IW0FrgSd80k/w-d-xo.html The Bible proves Prophet MOSES did pilgrimage to MECCA - INTERESTING Insight by a JEWISH writer!
Another disinformation video by Al Fadi , Las Vegas has no water either but it is one of he biggest cities in the world but Mecca does have water , its called underground water wells , people also fish in mecca , if you dig deep enough you can fish in some parts , I've seen people fish and fry their fish in the middle of the desert with oil and spices
So as a Christian myself born in the country of Angola , I was always happy with the respect Muslims showed towards me and Christians and so I asked one of the Church leaders in South Africa when I moved to Cape Town in South Africa from Angola and he said that when the early Muslim followers fled the city in Arabia , they were protected by Christian kings because the leaders in Arabia wanted to put them on trail for promoting Islam and I didn't know that . As a Christian I want to thank the South African government for banning hate speech and I want to thank the Muslim community in South Africa for helping our Church with parking spots since we would always would run out of parking space on Sundays and they allowed us to park in their spot .
Again on behalf of al fadi and david wood , I wanted to apologize to TH-cam viewers for the disinformation being promoted by al fadi and david wood , also don't forget to dislike this video and and block the channel , thank you and again I apologize .
Nothing to expose, but the christian standard narrative is sketchy why we don't have the original gospel in aramaic and theres many different bibles with missing verses
God bless to lies? They just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
So glad for this as at 76, having lived in Riyadh in the 60s, I have been stating these facts for decades to venemous assertions of manufactured truths. When I lived there, it was arid desert sans vegetation, a land of nomads for centuries.
Manufactured truth by hiding facts. They just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
Good day Mr. Al Fadi. Thank you for sharing with us all this study and research done about Meca, Islam and related topics that are so informative and certainly a must know information at least before I die. I gained so much knowledge from you and your channel and so with your guest like Dr. Smith and other realiable sources. I watched most of your videos, however, I think I have yet to watch more. Being an Arabian, I must say, you are a very open minded person and certainly not the concept of an Arabian I know. I have worked with quite a number of Arabs overseas and most of them pretty much are cut out of the same persona. I gave been tunning in to your channel and daily checking for new videos eventhough I have already subscribe. I hope you can share a bit of background about yourself and how you arrived at to what your interest are right now. If it not too much of a bother on your part. Just what to know more about the person with the same interest. More power to you Sir and your objectives in presenting the facts to the world.
Do you believe HATERS OF ISLAM on Islam?
Another disinformation video by Al Fadi , Las Vegas has no water either but it is one of he biggest cities in the world but Mecca does have water , its called underground water wells , people also fish in mecca , if you dig deep enough you can fish in some parts , I've seen people fish and fry their fish in the middle of the desert with oil and spices
So as a Christian myself born in the country of Angola , I was always happy with the respect Muslims showed towards me and Christians and so I asked one of the Church leaders in South Africa when I moved to Cape Town in South Africa from Angola and he said that when the early Muslim followers fled the city in Arabia , they were protected by Christian kings because the leaders in Arabia wanted to put them on trail for promoting Islam and I didn't know that . As a Christian I want to thank the South African government for banning hate speech and I want to thank the Muslim community in South Africa for helping our Church with parking spots since we would always would run out of parking space on Sundays and they allowed us to park in their spot .
Again on behalf of al fadi and david wood , I wanted to apologize to TH-cam viewers for the disinformation being promoted by al fadi and david wood , also don't forget to dislike this video and and block the channel , thank you and again I apologize
Christianity is still false religion with no historical evidence even the original gospel in aramaic is still not found
@@generaljg4373 So say you.
You should know they are deceiving people before you die.They just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
It would help if you used maps showing vegetation, and maps showing annual rainfall.
Especially maps over Hidjaz and Azir. That will make your point more strong.
He has no point
Well, when I was there from one June to Oct it rained 2 times. So it is believable that insufficient water supply would have killed the children of Israel and everyone else.
@@friedpickles342 Neither do you, besides small smirks and comments on a channel you dont like.
Go back to your dawah channels. Find comfort there.
@@ic.xc. Agreed
@@friedpickles342 it’s not our fault you follow a false prophet.
Our Lord Jesus Christ warned you about Mohammed, but Mohammed told you the bible is corrupted so you don’t read it. Poor Abdool Gonna go to hell 🥰
Thanks so much for the hard work! I’m enjoying all you do at CIRA international.
Its a hard work to deceive people. They just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
There are holes in the standard narrative-Yasir qadhi 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
historical research (and also common sense) proves that the city of Mecca could not have existed as a large commercial caravan city in the 7th century.
Main reasons for this fact are:
1) Mecca is not an oasis, so there is no surface water (only a well, known as zamzam which is clearly unsufficient and inappropriate for watering many caravan camels)
2) Mecca is not shown on any map or any document at that time or even previously
3) Mecca is located down of Hidjaz plateau and could therefore not be located on the caravan route which is located more than 1000 m above on the plateau (eg the city of Taeef is located at an altitude of ca 2000 m while Mecca is at 300 m)
4) there were no archeological remains or artefacts (coins, potteries, ruins, bones etc) discovered in Mecca dating from before circa year 700
It is impossible that a large city would leave no trace at all of its past
5) no agriculture whatsoever is possible in this wild rocky desert location, how could a large city survive in such hostile environment ?
One the religion of Christianity is Historically Accurate✝️☦️✝️
Another disinformation video by Al Fadi , Las Vegas has no water either but it is one of he biggest cities in the world with several churches and mosques and casinos and entertainment venues and native American sites but Mecca does have water , its called underground water wells , people also fish in mecca , if you dig deep enough you can fish in some parts , I've seen people fish and fry their fish in the middle of the desert with oil and spices , imagine fishing in a desert like death valley , well its possible in some parts of Mecca . Also Arabian culture going back 1000 years was very simple , they had date trees which require almost no water and they had camel milk or goat milk which also requires little water , its just like part of Africa were I'm from , they did not require a lot of water
So as a Christian myself born in the country of Angola , I was always happy with the respect Muslims showed towards me and Christians and so I asked one of the Church leaders in South Africa when I moved to Cape Town in South Africa from Angola and he said that when the early Muslim followers fled the city in Arabia , they were protected by Christian kings because the leaders in Arabia wanted to put them on trail for promoting Islam and I didn't know that . As a Christian I want to thank the South African government for banning hate speech and I want to thank the Muslim community in South Africa for helping our Church with parking spots since we would always would run out of parking space on Sundays and they allowed us to park in their spot .
Again on behalf of al fadi and david wood , I wanted to apologize to TH-cam viewers for the disinformation being promoted by al fadi and david wood , also don't forget to dislike this video and and block the channel , thank you and again I apologize .
Islam is a religion of peace , for more than a thousand years people have been fascinated about Islam's message of peace and I have great respect for Islam
Muslims believe in jesus as well. So if jesus existed, then so does islam
@@shazia1278Islam has nothing to do with Islam they believe in a fake Jesus not the real historical one
Precious info! Keep it coming!🤗
The Mega Aquifer System (MAS) is one of the largest aquifer systems in the world, underlying the extreme deserts of the Arabian Peninsula and crossing borders between Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Jordan, Oman, Yemen, and the United Arab Emirates
@@friedpickles342 since which date?
@@friedpickles342 Another copy paste. How original
@@ic.xc.
Are you not COPYING all that Bullshit rhetoric from Jay and Al fadi?
Trash info. They just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
Thanks , As a muslim I found out that mecca was in Petra and all the early muslims history now fits there properly, the man, the book, the place,
yet in the vally of Becca in petra you can see Kaaba
Jamarat
Safa And Marva
Hira Cave and etc , exacly as the Muslims early history defines,
Ibrahim was the first Man who Built the Kabba in Petra
almost all of relegious events in histoty happened in Jordan, Israeal , Egypt , Iraq Syria
You watched that Christian propaganda video didn’t you? Literally most of this video is laughable and it sounds like Jay is using this no water narrative so he can say Muhammad SAWS never existed. And if a man who never lied, was always righteous, never hurt others, and always strived to help existed he would have to admit that he was a prophet since he shared Quran scripture with the Arabs.
That video has several inaccuracies and you should speak to multiple sheikhs or professors who’ve studied this. The idea that Mecca was in Petra ridiculous.
@@AArrad Hi my brother, PBH To Prophet Mohammed.
yes I know that Jay smith Trying to destroy the Islam school and Propagation of Christianity.
jay smith used Dan Gibson findings about early giblas.
So they just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
Love ❤️ you Al Fadi, from Iran.
Masjid al-quiblatain IN Saudi Arabia 623 AD, is that mosque existed mean Macca exist Please do you want to clarify that. Thank you
Also ask why they just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
My comment seems to have disappeared? So once again good stuff guys
PS so when was the Mecca of Arabia first on any map?
Another disinformation video by Al Fadi , Las Vegas has no water either but it is one of he biggest cities in the world with several churches and mosques and casinos and entertainment venues and native American sites but Mecca does have water , its called underground water wells , people also fish in mecca , if you dig deep enough you can fish in some parts , I've seen people fish and fry their fish in the middle of the desert with oil and spices , imagine fishing in a desert like death valley , well its possible in some parts of Mecca
So as a Christian myself born in the country of Angola , I was always happy with the respect Muslims showed towards me and Christians and so I asked one of the Church leaders in South Africa when I moved to Cape Town in South Africa from Angola and he said that when the early Muslim followers fled the city in Arabia , they were protected by Christian kings because the leaders in Arabia wanted to put them on trail for promoting Islam and I didn't know that . As a Christian I want to thank the South African government for banning hate speech and I want to thank the Muslim community in South Africa for helping our Church with parking spots since we would always would run out of parking space on Sundays and they allowed us to park in their spot .
Again on behalf of al fadi and david wood , I wanted to apologize to TH-cam viewers for the disinformation being promoted by al fadi and david wood , also don't forget to dislike this video and and block the channel , thank you and again I apologize .
Islam is a religion of peace , for more than a thousand years people have been fascinated about Islam's message of peace and I have great respect for Islam
@@sinabagherisarvestani8924
Utter nonsense, Islam is far from the religion of peace, and as for your comparison to Las Vegas that is hilarious 😂
Ever heard of the Colorado River? It supplies 90% of the water used in Las Vegas, both by its residents and the visitors, comes from the Colorado River. The water starts as rain and from the melting of the snow in the Rocky Mountains. The water then travels via several tributaries into the river. The water from River Colorado is shared by seven western states and Mexico, serving around 40 million people. Water conservation is the top priority of the State as the river supply has suffered severe drought for 20 years, reducing the water in Lake Mead. Since Nevada is still not using the full amount of water allocated to it, there will not be any impact on the current water use even if a shortage is declared.
@@sinabagherisarvestani8924
Islam is a racist, violent and misogynistic ideology. Which has a FICTIONAL figure head MOHAMMED. Mohammed is a title (praised one) not a person!
The term Mohammed was used by Arab Christians until the mid 8th Century to refer to Jesus, and Jesus’s name is found on the Dome of the Rock
The Mohammed of Islam is an Abbasid invention around the late 8th century
Mecca (barely a hamlet) and Medina were insignificant places in the 7th Century
There was definitely no 7th century Islamic Quran
The various Qurans of today are an Abbasid invention, with diacritics only being added much later, late 19th century
Just a tiny amount of the many examples of hate/violence and racism in Islamic texts
Kafir a term used by Muslims to refer to non Muslims? Kafir is a derogatory term for black people
1. Mohammed referred to Blacks as "raisin heads". (Sahih al-Bukhari vol. 1, no. 662 and vol. 9, no. 256). 2. In another Hadith, Mohammed is quoted as saying that Blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves". (Sahih Moslem vol. 9, p. 46-47).
Some of the many violent texts in Islam
Surah 8:12
Sahih International: [Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."
Surah 9:5 etc
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
An example of one of the many antisemitic and anti Christian texts in Islam
Surah 5:51 Oh, believers, do not take the Jews or Christians as friends. They are but one another’s friends.
If any one of you take them for his friends, he surely is one of them. Allah will not guide the evildoers.
@@simonhengle8316 Islam comes from the world " salam " which means " peace " or " peace be with you " So the religion according to its name is the religion of peace , I don't think anyone disputes that or disagrees with that , its a literal and factual translation
@@sinabagherisarvestani8924
Nope, the literal translation is Surrender/Submit to Allah my Muslim friend
And as for Islam being the religion of peace that is utter nonsense, just look at Mohammad’s atrocities for a start, the genocides under the name of Islam, and violent persecution of other faiths
I see you’ve neatly side stepped your huge mistake about Las Vegas and this reply
Islam is a racist, violent and misogynistic ideology. Which has a FICTIONAL figure head MOHAMMED. Mohammed is a title (praised one) not a person!
The term Mohammed was used by Arab Christians until the mid 8th Century to refer to Jesus, and Jesus’s name is found on the Dome of the Rock
The Mohammed of Islam is an Abbasid invention around the late 8th century
Mecca (barely a hamlet) and Medina were insignificant places in the 7th Century
There was definitely no 7th century Islamic Quran
The various Qurans of today are an Abbasid invention, with diacritics only being added much later, late 19th century
Just a tiny amount of the many examples of hate/violence and racism in Islamic texts
Kafir a term used by Muslims to refer to non Muslims? Kafir is a derogatory term for black people
1. Mohammed referred to Blacks as "raisin heads". (Sahih al-Bukhari vol. 1, no. 662 and vol. 9, no. 256). 2. In another Hadith, Mohammed is quoted as saying that Blacks are, "pug-nosed slaves". (Sahih Moslem vol. 9, p. 46-47).
Some of the many violent texts in Islam
Surah 8:12
Sahih International: [Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."
Surah 9:5 etc
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
An example of one of the many antisemitic and anti Christian texts in Islam
Surah 5:51 Oh, believers, do not take the Jews or Christians as friends. They are but one another’s friends.
If any one of you take them for his friends, he surely is one of them. Allah will not guide the evildoers.
What do you think ZamZam is? It's a pure spring that feeds millions, every year, who all drink gallons of it, and take gallons back with them. As mentioned in your Bible, psalms
JAY ASKED
Does the Zam-zam well supply all the needs of Mecca and the Pilgrims?
BACKGROUND INFO
The Zam-zam water drew the passing caravans and tribes from the South (Yemen) to this area and a small village called Mecca was created, Abraham returned on 3 occasions (he did not live in Mecca) to check up on Hagar and Ismael and they built the Kaaba on the foundations founded by Adam (First modern man).
YES - the Zam-zam well catered for those people in Abraham's time and as the city grew, more wells were founded (Al-Jafr well, Sajla well)
See layout of Mecca in Mohammad (saw)'s time:
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100 - 150yrs after Mohammad (saw), when the pilgrim population increased, Queen Zubaydah commissioned two aqueducts. One was from Wadi Hunayn and the other from Wadi Numan, east of Arafat for the water supply to Makkah,
The latter, as it was close to Arafat, is sometimes known as Ayn Arafat while it is more commonly as Ayn Zubaydah.
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MORE LIES FROM JAY
claiming that the Zam-Zam water comes from Desalinizing Plants...HA HA HA
The water from the Desalinizing plants are additional water used for other purposes and was only constructed in the 20th century.
AND IN THE 20TH CENURY
modern technology, water pumps with pipes extracted more Zam-Zam water to cater for all the millions in Mecca and bottling for export as the level of the Zam-Zam water does not decrease.
th-cam.com/video/Y4k-bdizKgg/w-d-xo.html
muslim stop crying and *answer*
Do you condemn pedophilia?
*_YES_* or *_NO_*
@@AtheistReligionIsCancer
Do you condemn pedophilia?
YES or NO
Remember,
Mary was a 12 year old girl when she married Joseph at 90 years old and Rebecca, a BABY of 3 tears old and in another version of your corrupted bibles a little girl of 10 years old...
???????????????????????????
Do you condemn pedophilia?
YES or NO ?????????????????
@@AtheistReligionIsCancer Do you condem marriage after puberty with consent from the bride and her father?
I asked Muslims the same question after watching your video and their response was that Zam Zam was the never ending water source 😀
TRUE - IN THE 20TH CENURY
modern technology, water pumps with pipes extracted more Zam-Zam water to cater for all the millions in Mecca and bottling for export as the level of the Zam-Zam water does not decrease.
th-cam.com/video/Y4k-bdizKgg/w-d-xo.html
Another disinformation video by Al Fadi , Las Vegas has no water either but it is one of he biggest cities in the world with several churches and mosques and casinos and entertainment venues and native American sites but Mecca does have water , its called underground water wells , people also fish in mecca , if you dig deep enough you can fish in some parts , I've seen people fish and fry their fish in the middle of the desert with oil and spices , imagine fishing in a desert like death valley , well its possible in some parts of Mecca
So as a Christian myself born in the country of Angola , I was always happy with the respect Muslims showed towards me and Christians and so I asked one of the Church leaders in South Africa when I moved to Cape Town in South Africa from Angola and he said that when the early Muslim followers fled the city in Arabia , they were protected by Christian kings because the leaders in Arabia wanted to put them on trail for promoting Islam and I didn't know that . As a Christian I want to thank the South African government for banning hate speech and I want to thank the Muslim community in South Africa for helping our Church with parking spots since we would always would run out of parking space on Sundays and they allowed us to park in their spot .
Again on behalf of al fadi and david wood , I wanted to apologize to TH-cam viewers for the disinformation being promoted by al fadi and david wood , also don't forget to dislike this video and and block the channel , thank you and again I apologize .
Islam is a religion of peace , for more than a thousand years people have been fascinated about Islam's message of peace and I have great respect for Islam
@@sinabagherisarvestani8924
Read the countries where women are abused every left right and center,
All of them are Islamic .
We don't have to speculate the news tell us more, what does raping school girls, and converting them to islam under war,help a journey to faith.
This prooves that Islam is dark
Ask them about Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica and why they threw him under the bus.
@@sinabagherisarvestani8924las vegas was built in the modern age, our irrigation and water systems advanced since then
There was no zamzam
Zamzam was based on hagar and ishmael who never went to mecca
Mecca was founded much later on than what’s claimed
There is no disinformation of any kind
Amen..I love this 🙏 my prayers to them is to accept Jesus and they will come out from the darkness 🙏 ❤
The Mega Aquifer System (MAS) is one of the largest aquifer systems in the world, underlying the extreme deserts of the Arabian Peninsula and crossing borders between Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Jordan, Oman, Yemen, and the United Arab Emirates
@@friedpickles342 so? It's not even close to mecca the hoax.
@@friedpickles342 Copy pasting comments ain't going to get your point across. Bruh
Continue worshipping Jesus instead of the Father that sent him. Continue with the Trinity nonsense. Continue funding the luxurious lifestyles of pastors with tithes and offerings. Islam is here to stay and rapidly growing.
@@user-ly8wx3rf7z hahahaha, profit mopuss!
Mecca is a city with no pre-Islamic history.
Can you defend your comment?
th-cam.com/video/__ww6x0Rq8M/w-d-xo.html DID MOSES GO TO MECCA? DID MOSES PREFORM HAJJ?
th-cam.com/video/IW0FrgSd80k/w-d-xo.html The Bible proves Prophet MOSES did pilgrimage to MECCA - INTERESTING Insight by a JEWISH writer!
JAY ASKED
Does the Zam-zam well supply all the needs of Mecca and the Pilgrims?
BACKGROUND INFO
The Zam-zam water drew the passing caravans and tribes from the South (Yemen) to this area and a small village called Mecca was created, Abraham returned on 3 occasions (he did not live in Mecca) to check up on Hagar and Ismael and they built the Kaaba on the foundations founded by Adam (First modern man).
YES - the Zam-zam well catered for those people in Abraham's time and as the city grew, more wells were founded (Al-Jafr well, Sajla well)
See layout of Mecca in Mohammad (saw)'s time:
th-cam.com/video/vooLHdL0Xp8/w-d-xo.html
100 - 150yrs after Mohammad (saw), when the pilgrim population increased, Queen Zubaydah commissioned two aqueducts. One was from Wadi Hunayn and the other from Wadi Numan, east of Arafat for the water supply to Makkah,
The latter, as it was close to Arafat, is sometimes known as Ayn Arafat while it is more commonly as Ayn Zubaydah.
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MORE LIES FROM JAY
claiming that the Zam-Zam water comes from Desalinizing Plants...HA HA HA
Hello - you idiot, the water from the Desalinizing plants are additional water used for other purposes and was only constructed in the 20th century.
AND IN THE 20TH CENURY
modern technology, water pumps with pipes extracted more Zam-Zam water to cater for all the millions in Mecca and bottling for export as the level of the Zam-Zam water does not decrease.
th-cam.com/video/Y4k-bdizKgg/w-d-xo.html
This entire channel is honestly idiotic and you’ll probably be banned for exposing them like this. Which is why there’s no answer to these baseless claims. And honestly, I can’t blame regular Christian’s when they can’t find the courage to accept Islam and make up lies. But seeing Al Fadi coming up with lies and accepting dumb commentators on his channel either makes him really dumb, or one of the biggest munafiqin.
You’ll get your recompense on Judgement day Fadi, and I truly hope you can turn back from spreading lies so wilfully before it’s too late.
@@hmlinder
I walked😀
Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't know your maps; but if those are topographical maps then the colors indicate elevation, not vegetation. The elevation & slope of the topography seemingly indicated on these maps, however, would indicate that any subterranean water would tend to be in the north, not higher up the slope to the south/west as any rain on the high ground would seek aquafers in the lowlands, in Iraq/Iran.
Al Fadi & Jay Smith,
I hope you can answer a simple question.
The muslims conquered vast lands across the world in the name of Islam with mohamed and mecca being the central focus.
There are very elaborate mosques built all around the world but if this place called mecca was the holy of holy, why do all the old pictures that I have seen make mecca look like a dump site ????
Correction, it was Arabs who conquered the Middle Eastern Empires. The Caliphate adopted Islam as the official religion around 800AD and then laid plans to gather all manuscripts containing the so called Quranic verses to produce a standardized version in the Arabic language which prior to that had no written form. Arabic was the language of illiterate Arab Bedouins. Only 23 versions were chosen where the majority were written in the Aramaic/Syro texts and the rest burnt. Hence, in translation there were many contextual and grammatical errors because there were no existing Arabic words or phrases at the time. The Hadiths then became an important secondary source of "filling the gaps" so to speak.
Dear Jay, dear Al Fadi
Thank you for your wonderful scholarship, which is so easy to access.
We are grateful.
Simple question:
You showed us early pictures of Mecca.
How did Mecca get its water then, and how did it begin to get its water, when the centre of Islam was moved from Petra to Mecca- around 800???
Many thanks!
Chris. UK
Mecca the Bibel 1.
“Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the Scriptures: ‘the stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone; this was the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes’? Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people producing its fruits” (Matthew 21:42-43).
“The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone. This is the Lord’s doing; it is marvellous in our eyes” (Psalm 118:22-23).
The place is other than Jerusalem
When Jesus Christ was asked about the place where worship must be conducted, he stated that worship will be conducted at a new place other than Jerusalem. Through the message of Islam as conveyed by the Prophet, the place of worship of God moved to Makkah.
“The woman said to him, “Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet. Our fathers worshipped on this mountain, but you say that in Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship.” Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe me, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father” (John 4:19-21).
Makkah is forbidden for the unbelievers
“And a highway will be there; it will be called the Way of Holiness. The unclean will not journey on it; it will be for those who walk in that Way; wicked fools will not go about on it” (Isaiah 35:8).
Non-Muslims are not allowed to enter the Holy City of Makkah, exactly as described above.
“O, you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Haram (the Sacred House) after this, their [final] year. And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise” (Quran 9:28).
Pilgrimage to Makkah in Isaiah (60:1-7)
“Arise, shine, for your light has come, and the glory of the Lord rises upon you. See, darkness covers the earth and thick darkness is over the peoples, but the Lord rises upon you and his glory appears over you. Nations will come to your light, and kings to the brightness of your dawn. Lift up your eyes and look about you: All assemble and come to you; your sons come from afar, and your daughters are carried on the hip. Then you will look and be radiant, your heart will throb and swell with joy; the wealth on the seas will be brought to you, to you the riches of the nations will come. Herds of camels will cover your land, young camels of Midian and Ephah. And all from Sheba will come, bearing gold and incense and proclaiming the praise of the Lord. All Kedar’s flocks will be gathered to you, the rams of Nebaioth will serve you; they will be accepted as offerings on my altar, and I will adorn my glorious temple” (Isaiah 60:1-7).
Paran in Moses’ prophecy
“And he (Moses) said, The Lord came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them” (Deuteronomy 33:2, KJV).
“The Lord came from Sinai” refers to God’s revelation unto Moses (PBUH). “He rose up from Seir” refers to His message from the Nazarene. “He shined forth from mount Paran“, refers to Makkah.
Ishmael and his descendants have lived in Paran. Muhammad (PBUH), the descendant of Ishmael and Kedar, is the only prophet who appeared in the wilderness of Paran. Therefore, God shines forth from Paran, through His message of Islam to Muhammad (PBUH).
The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) had to flee with his followers from Makkah to Madinah. However, he re-entered it again with ten thousand believers (referred to as saints in the above verses) to give the fiery Law of God.
Paran refers to Makkah in the Bible
Paran was the habitat of Hagar and Ishmael
Makkah is also referred to as “Paran” in the Bible. Ishmael and his mother Hagar settled in the desert of Paran after Abraham left them.
“And God heard the boy crying, and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, ‘What is the matter, Hagar? Do not be afraid; God has heard the boy crying as he lies there. Lift the boy up and take him by the hand, for I will make him into a great nation.’ Then God opened her eyes and she saw a well of water. So she went and filled the skin with water and gave the boy a drink. God was with the boy as he grew up. He lived in the desert and became an archer. While he was living in the Desert of Paran, his mother got a wife for him from Egypt” (Genesis 21:17-21).
The descendants of Ishmael and his son Kedar are the Arabs, who have lived since that time until now in Paran.
Is it possible they found wells?
Have you heard about zam zam? They just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
In Makkah there was zamzam water,but not cultivation land, in quran Ibrahim elehe salam and his son built kabba in Makkah the land which was unable for cultivation..that is right the same place where Makkah now adays.
You have forgotten well of ZamZam.
Please forgive my ignorance here, but are you saying they Muhammad didn’t even exist then? Or that he and the Sahaba lives elsewhere and lied about Mecca? If indeed the stories about Mecca and Medina are false, wouldn’t have the people who lived in the 7th century when these events allegedly happened had known that no one lived in Mecca, and therefore it was a lie? And how then is Muhammad buried in Medina? I’m not asking these questions to be confrontational, I’m legitimately trying to understand your position. Thanks in Advance!
I see that you are the only Xtian here who uses his brain and logic and not as gullible as the rest who hangs on Jay's lips and chews the stinking sandals of Al fadi.
They, Jay and his clown are really going too far - it is one think to criticize Islam for what it's worth but to say that Mohammad (saw) did not exist, Mecca did not exist and evens the Quran does not exist but a Xtian prayer book translated into Arabic...ha ha ha
THIS IS THE LEVEL OF THEIR IDIOCY.
Petra in Jordan the 'true' location of Mecca
You can tell from a photo there is no water? You could of saved NASA a lot of money
What are the implications of Mecca not existing? What does it mean for Islam?
Islam was invented to control the Arab empire.
It means they just threw historicw facts like Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus. Islam already offer you the way to destroy Islam is by pointing out any errors and contradiction in Quran from authenctic sources.
According to the Biblical book Songs of Solomon, the covenant was transferred from the דּוֹדִֽים dwdym (David's people or the Jews - Songs 5:1) to the מַחֲּמַדִּים mhmdyim (Muhammad's people - Songs 5:16). (Both words are Hebrew masculine, plural NOUNS which the Christian translators have rendered as the adjective, lovely in their translations to hide the transfer of the covenant.). The Hebrew plural, masculine nloun suffix 'ym' is used to denote the people of the nation to which the proper noun refers as in מּוֹאָבִים (Moabym or Moabites), Ammonites or Amonym עַמֹּנִים, Egyptians or Musrym מִּצְרִים, Chaldeans or Chasidym כַּשְׂדִּים, Lydians or Lydym לוּדִים etc. The words mhmdym and dwdym are unique and only used once each in the entire Bible. So, one expects the translation to also be unique. The words dwdym and mhmdym constitute a synonymous parallelism which references the covenant relationship between these 2 peoples. The dwdym or Jews were the last ancient Semitic people to hold this covenant before it was transferred to the mhmdym or the Muslims who were and are Muhammad's people. In addition, the Palestinians are the original Jews as they carry the haplotype J1c3d. The Ashkenazi who control Palestine are not Semites. So, Palestinians, the native inhabitants for more than 5000 years, are the rightful owners of Palestine according to history, genetics and the bible.
The control of the land of Israel was based on the contingency that those bound by the covenant would obey the law (Torah) and worship the One, True God. According to the Bible, the Jews failed to abide by the covenant conditions. The last straw was when they attempted to murder the Prophet, Jesus (as). Matthew 21:43 has Jesus declare: "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof." So, it is clear that Jesus confirmed the prophecy in Songs 5 and the covenant was taken from the dwdym (David's people) and given to the mhmdym (Muhammad's people). The Mhmdym (Muslims) fulfilled the messianic expectations of the Jews when they created an empire that stretched from the Atlantic to the Pacific and from the Mediterranean Sea to the Indian Ocean. The Mhmdym also rebuilt the former temple as Masjid Al Aqsa on the site which the Christian had deliberately defiled to dishonor the Jews and their god, Yhwh.
Songs is an allegory with many different levels of meaning. The poem is symbolic. The groom is symbolic of the king who ruled Judah, and who was a member of the dwdym or David's people. The bride represents the people of the covenant. The love between the spouses represents the covenant. Dwdym (David's people) represents the original people of the covenant or Jews. The Mhmdym represent the people of Muhammad to whom the covenant is transferred when the bride addresses her groom as Muhammadim or the people of Muhammad.. The bride, who is symbolic of the people of the covenant, switched her allegiance from the king who was both the ruler of and a member of the dwdym (David's people) to the Muhammadim (Muhammad's people) because the Muhammadim were the recipients of the new covenant. The covenant was transferred to the Mhmdym because the Jews rejected Jesus and his message. This new covenant was the means through which Allah (swt) made Muhammad the founder of a nation whose empire stretched from the Atlantic to the Pacific and from the Indian Ocean to the Mediterranean Sea. The achievements of the Muhammadim fulfilled the messianic expectations of the Hebrews. Songs is a prophecy that the Law or Torah was to be expressed through a covenant between the deity and the people who were committed to the purified Torah which became known as the Shariah, the law or Torah of the Muslim ummah. Allah's (swt) promises are always true, Subhanallah.
Another disinformation video by Al Fadi , Las Vegas has no water either but it is one of he biggest cities in the world with several churches and mosques and casinos and entertainment venues and native American sites but Mecca does have water , its called underground water wells , people also fish in mecca , if you dig deep enough you can fish in some parts , I've seen people fish and fry their fish in the middle of the desert with oil and spices , imagine fishing in a desert like death valley , well its possible in some parts of Mecca . Also Arabian culture going back 1000 years was very simple , they had date trees which require almost no water and they had camel milk or goat milk which also requires little water , its just like part of Africa were I'm from , they did not require a lot of water
So as a Christian myself born in the country of Angola , I was always happy with the respect Muslims showed towards me and Christians and so I asked one of the Church leaders in South Africa when I moved to Cape Town in South Africa from Angola and he said that when the early Muslim followers fled the city in Arabia , they were protected by Christian kings because the leaders in Arabia wanted to put them on trail for promoting Islam and I didn't know that . As a Christian I want to thank the South African government for banning hate speech and I want to thank the Muslim community in South Africa for helping our Church with parking spots since we would always would run out of parking space on Sundays and they allowed us to park in their spot .
Again on behalf of al fadi and david wood , I wanted to apologize to TH-cam viewers for the disinformation being promoted by al fadi and david wood , also don't forget to dislike this video and and block the channel , thank you and again I apologize .
Islam is a religion of peace , for more than a thousand years people have been fascinated about Islam's message of peace and I have great respect for Islam
Thank you very much brother Al Fadi and brother Jay Smith for sharing God bless 🙏
Thank you for deceiving people? They just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
Mecca was dead
Does the same point apply to Medina? Looks pretty dry there
The Mega Aquifer System (MAS) is one of the largest aquifer systems in the world, underlying the extreme deserts of the Arabian Peninsula and crossing borders between Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Jordan, Oman, Yemen, and the United Arab Emirates
@@friedpickles342 Based on the map, you couldn't tell that though. So why is the map shown in the clip evidence that no large settlements could have been in Mecca?
Unfortunately, a map doesn't show water under the ground so no one could be sure whether a city could be established in Mecca based on a map alone.
@@eddyk564 fortunately. J can't claim there was no water in mecca back then based on modern maps.
The point doesnt apply to both sites. They just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus. Meccan do have water way before Jesus walk on this earth.
this argument holds no water, I come from sub-Saharan Africa. we have towns with a single water source or non at all, yet people still make it their home.
How about it’s not mentioned on any roman or ancient persian maps too
Mecca - CRAZY DISCOVERY !
There was al least " ZAMZAM " the well
Love CIRA international...❤
Showing facts about Islamic Hostory ❤
Great video!
When I talk with Muslims, they love to bring up "the 99 names of Allah", because it's one of the few ways their book is deep.
I would love it if you did a series called "the 99 mistakes of Allah" going through the innumerable mistakes in the Qur'an, hadiths, and standard Islamic narrative!
1) What 'mistakes' are there in the 99 Names/Attributes of Allah?
2) Name one mistake in the Quran,
3) Do you know what the hadiths, and standard Islamic narrative are?
@@aaabrams1889 Just one mistake?
The sun sets in a pool of hot water.
Earth if flat.
Earth is carried on the back of a whale named nun.
There are actually *_7_* earths according to allah god dude.
Mountains are place on top of the earth.
Sperm originated from the back bone of the man and the ribs of the woman.
*How many mistakes do you want?*
Another disinformation video by Al Fadi , Las Vegas has no water either but it is one of he biggest cities in the world with several churches and mosques and casinos and entertainment venues and native American sites but Mecca does have water , its called underground water wells , people also fish in mecca , if you dig deep enough you can fish in some parts , I've seen people fish and fry their fish in the middle of the desert with oil and spices , imagine fishing in a desert like death valley , well its possible in some parts of Mecca
So as a Christian myself born in the country of Angola , I was always happy with the respect Muslims showed towards me and Christians and so I asked one of the Church leaders in South Africa when I moved to Cape Town in South Africa from Angola and he said that when the early Muslim followers fled the city in Arabia , they were protected by Christian kings because the leaders in Arabia wanted to put them on trail for promoting Islam and I didn't know that . As a Christian I want to thank the South African government for banning hate speech and I want to thank the Muslim community in South Africa for helping our Church with parking spots since we would always would run out of parking space on Sundays and they allowed us to park in their spot .
Again on behalf of al fadi and david wood , I wanted to apologize to TH-cam viewers for the disinformation being promoted by al fadi and david wood , also don't forget to dislike this video and and block the channel , thank you and again I apologize .
Islam is a religion of peace , for more than a thousand years people have been fascinated about Islam's message of peace and I have great respect for Islam
@@aaabrams1889 1. you misunderstood, the mistakes aren't in the 99 names, I meant generally speaking.
2. Mountains aren't stakes.
3. Hadiths are alleged sayings of Muhammad. The SIN is the history of Islam accepted by the majority of Muslims.
@@sinabagherisarvestani8924 Vegas is a modern city. The video indirectly deals with this when they talk about Mecca in the modern day, in passing.
With all due respect, that's a very weak argument. Petra's in the middle of a dessert. Yet the oasis besides it was enough to sustain a city that served as cros road for merchants since antiquity. Same for Palmyra, some for Samarkanda and Bukhara. In the US southwest, the oases in the middle of the dessert were enough to sustain the Pueblo and Anasazis civilizations, until they collapsed due to drough. So it could very well be that Yathrib and Medina existed in the middle of a dessert for a long time, all you need is a well or an oasis that's generous enough in water plus a reason for humans to be there (usually, that reason is commerce or mining, otherwise everybody shuns the desserts)
The Mega Aquifer System (MAS) is one of the largest aquifer systems in the world, underlying the extreme deserts of the Arabian Peninsula and crossing borders between Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Jordan, Oman, Yemen, and the United Arab Emirates
There's no evidence this aquifer was utilized until modern times.
They just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
Jordan had rivers
Mecca did not
@@MateLeob i mean, i like in general the ideas presented in these videos, debunking the standard islamic narrative - plenty of holes in it. BUT i believe this argument is a bit preposterous. There's way too many inconsistencies to talk about in regards to the quran, this one seems pretty weak
The average precipitation in Mecca is very low with only 40 mm a year (1.5 inch).
Islam is collapsing under the shining light of truth and righteous ridicule.
To shine light of truth dont just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
But Mecca has the famous and what most believe is the everlasting well called Zamzam. How is it then that you say that Mecca was not surrounded with water?
Can you tell how the camels from Mecca could drink water from a well ? Water being some 10 meters below the surface ?
I agree about most of the things except for the volcanic rocks. I though volcanic rocks were the best soil for vegetation, such as Hawaii, Ancient Greece Atlantic islands or South East Asian islands?
Thank u Jesus
So its loaded with extensive lies n deceits as sands covering the vast desserts.
exactly.they just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus. Meccan do have water way before even Jesus walk on this earth.
So they just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
You should have pointed out Egypt and it’s desert
The Nile says otherwise you’ll get towns close to the river
And what about zamzam well in makkah ? and how miraculous this spring could be in middle of desert?
They just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
There was no zamzam in mecca
Hagar and ishmael resided far in the north and they never set foot in a place that didn’t exist like mecca
The actual zamzam might be somewhere in jordan or negev desert, nowhere in the depth of arabia
What is the reason that in school we had to Learn wrong history and wasted our time and energy and money of My hardworking parents.i am sorry to hear that but that does not change My love and respect to all my muslim friends and family.gb u all
Air?
Al Fadi in the episode 2 was architect, now is a geologist. I wonder if he is also a mathematican,physicist or something else. Clowns.
Which Mecca did the Qirrat reader Ibn Kathir Al Makki lived? The Mecca in Saudi Arabia or the Mecca in the North?
Al-Makki was born in Mecca and was one of the Tabi‘un. His family was of Iranian origin and were immigrants to Yemen. Al-Makki was a mawla ("freedman") of Amr ibn Alkama al-Kinani.
Al-Makki met the prophetic companions Anas ibn Malik and Abd Allah ibn al-Zubayr, and he learned his recitation method from a student of the prophetic companion Abd Allah ibn Abbas who in turn learned from Ubay ibn Ka'b and Zayd ibn Thabit who both learned directly from the prophet Muhammad.
Al-Shafi‘i, the namesake of one of the four primary schools of thought in Sunni Islam, preferred to recite the Qur'an according to al-Makki's method.
He died in the year 737CE. The two primary transmitters of his method of recitation, Al-Bazzi and Qunbul, were Persian and Meccan respectively.
What about al lat statue??
Jay will say that those Pagan idols did not need water...ha ha ha
Can we know how was this place chose by the Khalifa? And why did he choose this place in the middle of nowhere?
This place was chosen by Allah.
@@aaabrams1889 lol 😂😂 you’re Allah doesn’t exist sorry.
Do you even know what and who the khalifa even means and from where their administrative center is?
@@miorfaizulsabki6667 what has this to do with my question?
@@siulong1394 because different khalifa rules from different places
Much of Arabia less desert and arid 12,000 years ago but a probable comet/asteroid impacts due to an aerial detonation caused Noahs flood and changed the climate?
If your methodology were used in archeology, archeologist will be working in office, googling articles that you can twist to fit your interest...
Exactly. They just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
When Ubaydullah saw him, he said: This Muhammad of yours is a dwarf and fat. The old man (i.e. AbuBarzah) understood it. So he said: I did not think that I should remain among people who would make me feel ashamed of the company of Muhammad (peace be upon him). - Abu Dawud 40:4731
What stands for CIRA ?
The truth will set you free.
So dont just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
Slow down Jay, you trip over your tongue!
Dear, Dr Jay
Do you know that Nazareth was a wasteland, not even village nor city, at the time of Jesus ?
Thanks
Citation?
There's a spring at the base of the hills overlooking Nazareth. Mary and other girls could walk several hundred meters from the well to their homes.
Learn geography.
@@MrAbuYaz So theres no zam zam in Mecca? So why they just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus. The meccans have water way before Jesus.
Nobody claims that zamzam is a major supply of water, or that meccah was a city in ancient times. A little village would make more sense, and agriculture obviously was never a thing there. They used to have enough to water livestock of traders. Comparing meccah with 'civilisations' is wrong, as we know that other than zamzam there was never any water there.
Another disinformation video by Al Fadi , Las Vegas has no water either but it is one of he biggest cities in the world with several churches and mosques and casinos and entertainment venues and native American sites but Mecca does have water , its called underground water wells , people also fish in mecca , if you dig deep enough you can fish in some parts , I've seen people fish and fry their fish in the middle of the desert with oil and spices , imagine fishing in a desert like death valley , well its possible in some parts of Mecca
So as a Christian myself born in the country of Angola , I was always happy with the respect Muslims showed towards me and Christians and so I asked one of the Church leaders in South Africa when I moved to Cape Town in South Africa from Angola and he said that when the early Muslim followers fled the city in Arabia , they were protected by Christian kings because the leaders in Arabia wanted to put them on trail for promoting Islam and I didn't know that . As a Christian I want to thank the South African government for banning hate speech and I want to thank the Muslim community in South Africa for helping our Church with parking spots since we would always would run out of parking space on Sundays and they allowed us to park in their spot .
Again on behalf of al fadi and david wood , I wanted to apologize to TH-cam viewers for the disinformation being promoted by al fadi and david wood , also don't forget to dislike this video and and block the channel , thank you and again I apologize .
Islam is a religion of peace , for more than a thousand years people have been fascinated about Islam's message of peace and I have great respect for Islam
So they just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
That is true even in South America during the ancient times, large civilization just vanish cause there is no water anymore due to drought according to archeologists and other geologists . So their huge population can not be maintain to stick together and perhaps they went their way. Water is essential for a civilization to thrive, plant foods, raise cattles and home necessities. Or else the whole population dies of thirst. All civilization during early days are near water sources.
yeah, Ancient civilisations were always near sources of water like a river. Example Indus Valley Civilisation near the Indus River, Mesopotamia was near the Tigris-Euphrates River, Ancient Egypt was near the Nile River, Ancient China was near Huang He and Yangtze River.
So they just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
The Mega Aquifer System (MAS) is one of the largest aquifer systems in the world, underlying the extreme deserts of the Arabian Peninsula and crossing borders between Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Jordan, Oman, Yemen, and the United Arab Emirates
It could be water from the latest ice age, 10 000 years ago. These countries are drinking that aquifer out. The day it is over is approaching. The results are going to be horrible.
Such an aquifer system needs drilling to be reached.
The city of Mecca is on the slope of a plateau. Its zam zam well could actually be a spillover from the MAS. In case I'm correct that well will be dry the day of empty MAS. I won't be happy about it.
@mysotiras 011 Water is pumped out not in. Without water millions of people are going to die. It is approaching and fast.
The debate - The wonder of it is - it held between two non Muslims - each time one speaks the other listens or vice versa.
How wonder !!
They just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
@@miorfaizulsabki6667 - O. K. - I give you one question -
You people cry about pagans who used to live in Mecca long long before Prophet Muhammad PBUH.
The question is - how did they used to live without water.?
Before making a claim one must think about all the history and matters surrounding the claim.
Thank you for your opinion.
@@shahrahman4368 First proves there no water sources. How Diodorus Siculus says the pagan arabs already making pilgrimage to the site before Jesus even walk on this earth? They do have water in the first place. There are lots of oasis and wadi scattered in the desert. Mecca already have zam zam.
@@miorfaizulsabki6667 - Yes Oasis and Zamzam was their source of water.
But Islam hater non Muslims still claim that Mecca didn't exist and there was no water in there.
Thank you for your opinion.
I'm Christian but you mentioned Adam Eve. But what did the topographic map look like before flood knowing that what happened during flood was monstrous. We know of panjia where during the ark situation the lands moved dramatically. Could you help explain with that please ❤️
Another disinformation video by Al Fadi , Las Vegas has no water either but it is one of he biggest cities in the world with several churches and mosques and casinos and entertainment venues and native American sites but Mecca does have water , its called underground water wells , people also fish in mecca , if you dig deep enough you can fish in some parts , I've seen people fish and fry their fish in the middle of the desert with oil and spices , imagine fishing in a desert like death valley , well its possible in some parts of Mecca . Also Arabian culture going back 1000 years was very simple , they had date trees which require almost no water and they had camel milk or goat milk which also requires little water , its just like part of Africa were I'm from , they did not require a lot of water
So as a Christian myself born in the country of Angola , I was always happy with the respect Muslims showed towards me and Christians and so I asked one of the Church leaders in South Africa when I moved to Cape Town in South Africa from Angola and he said that when the early Muslim followers fled the city in Arabia , they were protected by Christian kings because the leaders in Arabia wanted to put them on trail for promoting Islam and I didn't know that . As a Christian I want to thank the South African government for banning hate speech and I want to thank the Muslim community in South Africa for helping our Church with parking spots since we would always would run out of parking space on Sundays and they allowed us to park in their spot .
Again on behalf of al fadi and david wood , I wanted to apologize to TH-cam viewers for the disinformation being promoted by al fadi and david wood , also don't forget to dislike this video and and block the channel , thank you and again I apologize .
Islam is a religion of peace , for more than a thousand years people have been fascinated about Islam's message of peace and I have great respect for Islam
@@sinabagherisarvestani8924
I'm sure there are a great deal of wonderful Muslim people's. But the Islamic Qur'an is not a book of peace and the history and archaeology doesn't look good either.
I love all people's of the world and rebuke anything that harm's people especially families.
Truth must be told not Hiden or deception ( allah is the greatest of decevours, that's 1 of it's names of many) I believe in the I AM of old and new testament of Bible which has proven historical and archaeological truths time and time again.
Question what is the one word that sums up the Bible?
Answer is Redemption
God bless
@@sinabagherisarvestani8924
We're it not for the discovery of oil in 1945,Saudi Arabia. Would be in a very bad situation
Dont bother ask. If they just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus they can threw anything under the bus.
But just last week at speakers corner one muslim was stating and no other muslim was putting him right, the the zam zam well provided all the water Mecca required. How do you get it through their deluded minds that they are wrong. Facts mean nothing to them, they just ignore what they don't want to hear.
JAY ASKED
Does the Zam-zam well supply all the needs of Mecca and the Pilgrims?
BACKGROUND INFO
The Zam-zam water drew the passing caravans and tribes from the South (Yemen) to this area and a small village called Mecca was created, Abraham returned on 3 occasions (he did not live in Mecca) to check up on Hagar and Ismael and they built the Kaaba on the foundations founded by Adam (First modern man).
YES - the Zam-zam well catered for those people in Abraham's time and as the city grew, more wells were founded (Al-Jafr well, Sajla well)
See layout of Mecca in Mohammad (saw)'s time:
th-cam.com/video/vooLHdL0Xp8/w-d-xo.html
100 - 150yrs after Mohammad (saw), when the pilgrim population increased, Queen Zubaydah commissioned two aqueducts. One was from Wadi Hunayn and the other from Wadi Numan, east of Arafat for the water supply to Makkah,
The latter, as it was close to Arafat, is sometimes known as Ayn Arafat while it is more commonly as Ayn Zubaydah.
th-cam.com/video/VGP22T8-zns/w-d-xo.html
MORE LIES FROM JAY ( Future video of Jay)
claiming that the Zam-Zam water comes from Desalinizing Plants...HA HA HA
The water from the Desalinizing plants are additional water used for other purposes and was only constructed in the 20th century.
AND IN THE 20TH CENURY
modern technology, water pumps with pipes extracted more Zam-Zam water to cater for all the millions in Mecca and bottling for export as the level of the Zam-Zam water does not decrease.
th-cam.com/video/Y4k-bdizKgg/w-d-xo.html
@@aaabrams1889 stop crying and *answer*
Do you condemn pedophilia?
*_YES_* or *_NO_*
Jay assume in mecca there is no water during 7 century. In fact mecca have water, zam zam wells provide for mecca peoples and pilgrims for centuries.
Mecca in the Bibel 2.
Makkah is named Baka in the Bible
The name Baka is specifically mentioned in the Bible in Chapter eighty-four of Psalms. This chapter tells us about a sacred place for which souls yearn, hearts and flesh sing for joy to the living God and God’s praise is sung. This place is called “the Valley of Baca”. Baca is described as a dry place which was made into a place of springs in the vicinity of tents. A day there is better than a thousand elsewhere.
“How lovely is your dwelling place, Lord Almighty? My soul yearns, even faints, for the courts of the Lord; my heart and my flesh cry out for the living God. Even the sparrow has found a home, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may have her young-a place near your altar, Lord Almighty, my King and my God. Blessed are those who dwell in your house; they are ever praising you. Blessed are those whose strength is in you, whose hearts are set on pilgrimage. As they pass through the Valley of Baka, they make it a place of springs; the autumn rains also cover it with pools. They go from strength to strength, till each appears before God in Zion. Hear my prayer, Lord God Almighty; listen to me, God of Jacob. Look on our shield, O God; look with favour on your anointed one. Better is one day in your courts than a thousand elsewhere” (Psalms 84: 1-10).
Let’s analyse the above Psalms’ verses.
“My soul yearns, even faints, for the courts of the Lord; my heart and my flesh cry outfor the living God”:
“Our Lord, I have settled some of my descendants in an uncultivated valley near Your Sacred House, our Lord, that they may establish prayer. So make hearts among the people incline toward them and provide for them from the fruits that they might be grateful” (Qur’an 14:37).
“The sparrow has found a homeand the swallow a nest“:
Makkah is a place where birds and all animals are safe because hunting and killing are forbidden. Anyone who hunts or kills an animal in Makkah has to expiate for his sins.
Blessed are those who dwell in your house; they are ever praising you: Millions of Muslims go to Makkah every year for Umrah and pilgrimage. They spend several days occupying all their time praising God and fully submitting to Him. They are blessed because they sacrifice money and everything to visit and dwell in the House of God.
Muslims are ever praising and glorifying God in their prayers, and supplications. They also start anything in His name. During their visits to His house for pilgrimage they sing:
O, my Lord, here I am. Here I am associating no partners to You. Verily, all praise is for You. Every bounty is from You and all Sovereignty is Yours. You have no partner.
Blessed are those whose strength is in you, whose hearts are set on pilgrimage.
Muslim pilgrims dwelling in the Holy House of God in Makkah, ask God for forgiveness. They drive their strength by fully relying on Him.
“As they pass through the Valley of Baka“:
Baka is one of the various names of Makkah as we read in the Qur’an:
“Indeed, the first House [of worship] established for mankind was that at Baka - blessed and guidance for the worlds” (Qur’an 3:96).
“They make it a place of springs“:
The spring of “Zamzam” is beside the Ka’bah in the Holy Mosque in Makkah. This spring has been continuously producing water for thousands of years since the time of Abraham (PBUH). It has turned Makkah to an inhabited place in the arid desert.
“Better is one day in your courts than a thousand elsewhere“:
The reward of the pilgrims who visit the Holy Mosque of God in Makkah is great. The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said:
“One prayer in my Mosque (in Madinah) is better than one thousand prayers in any other mosque excepting the Sacred Mosque (in Makkah) and one prayer in the Sacred Mosque is better than one hundred thousand prayers elsewhere” (Narrated Ahmad and Ibn Majah).
Nonsense. Baka is a valley pilgrims climbed on their way to Jerusalem. You quoted the Hebrew psalms with references to Zion!
@@MrAbuYaz Baka is another name for Makka. It was known over 1400 years ago and before that. Of course Makka or Baka is on the way to Jerusalem. The caravans which brought goods from Yemen passed Baka(Makka) and had a rest in Makka(Baka) and visited Gods house Kaaba to pray for prosperity, support and security.
You christians are enemies of your own holy book. What ever your holy book say, you twist it, just as you like. Your book says one god you say 3 in 1, 3 of 1, 1+1+1=1, 1x1x1=1 etc, your book tells you Jesus was a jewish prophet for the lost tribes of jews only you say no he was god for all. Your book talks about Mohammad even with his name, you christians use the translation of his name and change the prophesy just because you believe that all prophets mus have been jews, not Arabs or others. Despite the fact, that God tells Abraham that He will make from the children of Hagar a great nation.
Either you are confused or you are hateful people or the Devil guide you astray. I think all of those three..
@@MrAbuYaz Mohammadim
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In Song of Solomon 5:16, the verse in Hebrew transliteration is:
ḥikkōw mamṯaqqîm wəḵullōw maḥămaddîm zeh ḏōwḏî wəzeh rê‘î, bənōwṯ yərūšālim
חִכּוֹ֙ מַֽמְתַקִּ֔ים וְכֻלּ֖וֹ מַחֲמַדִּ֑ים זֶ֤ה דוֹדִי֙ וְזֶ֣ה רֵעִ֔י בְּנ֖וֹת יְרוּשָׁלִָֽם׃
where maḥămaddîm is translated as "[is] lovely". But normally, in Hebrew, when the suffix "im" is added to a word, it's the use of majestic plural, that is giving respect to the entity referred to by the set of characters preceding "im". Just like "Eloh-im" (giving respect to Eloah).
So "maḥămaddîm" is translated as "lovely", and the "-im" added either means a normal plural or majestic plural, In either case, what is the reason for pluralizing an adjective like "lovely"?
@@farhatkunstundliteratur6602 fool, I'm Jewish.
@@farhatkunstundliteratur6602 check the Hebrew spelling, it's not the Baka you reference, it's Bacha.
To be white and not black reflection is the power and force of any human being realization to be true American dream. So, keep hope alive only! Hahahaha!
So how did Mecca become a place where people live in if there was no water in the first place??
@mysotiras 011
Ah - I see that you learnt from me = GOOD!!!
YOU FORGOT to say that there were also OTHER WELLS near the Zam-Zam wells and wadis plus Mecca is in a valley and when it rains, all the mountains around would flash flood the Kaaba.
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The Zam-zam well catered for those people in Abraham's time and as the city grew, more wells were founded (Al-Jafr well, Sajla well)
See layout of Mecca in Mohammad (saw)'s time:
th-cam.com/video/vooLHdL0Xp8/w-d-xo.html
Because threses water wayyuy before even Jesus walk on this earth. Have you heard about zam zam? dont just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
No water? What about the major floods that occur periodically?
Could it be possible there was water thete?
have you heard about zam zam?
If you go Mars you are going to still fight. Cause that is what people like doing.
Yet another islamic miracle, alhamdulillah! /j
In regards to Mecca and the Kabba, there's alot of "holes in the narrative".
Name one hole...
@@aaabrams1889 only one hole in the Pedophile's handbook quran?
@@aaabrams1889
Where are all the graves of the 300 prophets who are buried in Mecca?
We didn't go to Mars. When you get done picking Islam apart, goe after NASA and it's lies.
As a Muslim to all Muslim brothers and sisters we don’t need to know our history scholar Or scientist, which is explained very well in the Quran by Allah ! we all must believe and except all the messenger of ALLAH. Islam has the first and oldest history on the earth. It was different because mother of tongue. For example (friend,habibi,tomodachi) same but three different languages .and 3 qitab (books) was sent for a group of people but the Quran for all. All messenger has legacy. And Mohammed (saw) is legacy of Ibrahim PBU. The place was choosing by Allah not by human. The way all video explained like if human desire to be civilized on mars it’s required to find water. God plan so he bring water from nowhere . May Allah bless you all.
Adam and Eve were ninety feet tall and with all the digging that's going on in Mecca it's just a matter of time till they find their bones. because that is were they're buried.
Then you guys will know the truth.
You clearly have deep doubts about islam. Good, my friend, you will soon leave this death cult.
If you apply common Sense, if you look history in factual way, ur not true Muslim, just have a blind Faith,
Peter pan snow white and Mohammed all lived in mocca
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We love Al Fadi. He did the right thing. He decided to believe in the Son of God and by doing so he became part of Jesus family. Because Jesus says: "Whoever does the will of My Father is my brother, sister and mother," (Matthew Chapter 12). He could not deny the Spirit of God, Who testified through the works Jesus did that Jesus is the Mesiah. Many people at that time saw and believed, but the pharisees only followed Jesus to prove Him wrong or accuse Him of doing things against the Law of Moses. Then they wanted anothet miracle. Jesus told them: "An adulterous and wicked generation wants a miracle, but their only miracle will be that of the prophet Jonah, who was swallowed by the fish and released after 3 days. Thus the Son of Man will be resurrected after 3 days." See Matthew Chapter 12. 🙌❤️ God bless you all.
Not sure why you are picking on Muslims only.
God-bless
Blessing for threwimg Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus?
Mecca has water now. All due to modern desalination technology. Essential for Mecca as an immense Saudi profit centre.
The meccan have water way before Jesus walk on this earth. They just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
Your channel is heavily and generously financed it must be a so important cause for your sponsers.
Weak attempt to defame.
So if a Dawah channel is heavily sponsored and financed by outsiders, your criteria is that we should doubt everything they say too?
So they just threw Diodorus Siculus a Greek historian of 1st century BC who wrote Bibliotheca Historica under the bus.
These people don’t know what a well is
World peace starts from free strong PALESTINE 🇵🇸.......
What about water below underground they created well? Are these real
JAY ASKED
Does the Zam-zam well supply all the needs of Mecca and the Pilgrims?
BACKGROUND INFO
The Zam-zam water drew the passing caravans and tribes from the South (Yemen) to this area and a small village called Mecca was created, Abraham returned on 3 occasions (he did not live in Mecca) to check up on Hagar and Ismael and they built the Kaaba on the foundations founded by Adam (First modern man).
YES - the Zam-zam well catered for those people in Abraham's time and as the city grew, more wells were founded (Al-Jafr well, Sajla well)
See layout of Mecca in Mohammad (saw)'s time:
th-cam.com/video/vooLHdL0Xp8/w-d-xo.html
100 - 150yrs after Mohammad (saw), when the pilgrim population increased, Queen Zubaydah commissioned two aqueducts. One was from Wadi Hunayn and the other from Wadi Numan, east of Arafat for the water supply to Makkah,
The latter, as it was close to Arafat, is sometimes known as Ayn Arafat while it is more commonly as Ayn Zubaydah.
th-cam.com/video/VGP22T8-zns/w-d-xo.html
MORE LIES FROM JAY (Future video of Jay)
claiming that the Zam-Zam water comes from Desalinizing Plants...HA HA HA
Hello - you idiot, the water from the Desalinizing plants are additional water used for other purposes and was only constructed in the 20th century.
AND IN THE 20TH CENURY
modern technology, water pumps with pipes extracted more Zam-Zam water to cater for all the millions in Mecca and bottling for export as the level of the Zam-Zam water does not decrease.
th-cam.com/video/Y4k-bdizKgg/w-d-xo.html
The believers were facing Jerusalem for their daily prayers. In response to the pagan complaints that they had become foreigners to their own land and their own people, concession was made for the believers to face Mekka for God is everywhere. This had also the potential to attract more converts from paganism.
So If Mekka didn't exist as you allege, then the concession makes no sense...
You guys are full of it!
@ For J. Smith,
When there is no father, there is no son. So your Jesus did not exist.
When there is no Jesus, there is not Christianity. so get lost...
Oil you own machine Mr. J. Smith. All the Christians know that you and your religion both are a great lie.
Why do you make video about Islam? Why you not make any video about Jews who don’t recognize Christianity as a religion at all??? I think Jews do the right thing for you.
In fact this is the decree of Allah that you will deny Islam untill you reach to the jahannam.
Hi
Another discord among the hypocritical, conceited, divisive man made Abrahamic faith to explain humankind's existence.🤨🤨🤨.