Lawson fully deserves the chance, but I'm afraid the way Danny Ric was dropped is leaving a sour taste in many people's mouth, and that might play into a lot of bias against Liam that he doesn't deserve
Someone gets it the way danny ric got dropped is crappy but r this was one of the many below average drivers we’ve had with little support no one would care especially if they had Danny rics results. Liam deserves this and Danny had a poor exit both can be true
@@FrosteeWusky he should’ve been in before Danny ric even got the seat as well as the rest driver and the best potential guy from their program this whole dilemma is of red bulls making they treated Danny ric like a golden child until he clearly was at best a more experienced and well liked version of what we’ve seen of Liam but in a junior team that doesn’t really work no hate to either driver I like em both but it’s Liam’s Time and that’s fair enough
Racing Bulls needed sponsors, DR made it possible to get some. R&D cost a ton of money the then Alpha Tauri didn't really have. And even now, the car is still a tractor and I wouldn't be suprised if VCARB end up at the bottom with Alpine and there's nothing Lawson could do to prevent it. Yuki is far from getting those solid points he got early in the season. Yes, DR underperformed but don't get it mistaken, the team is also weak.
Liam was absolutely the right choice from the start. It was just the way the Red Bull/VCARB handled Checo’s contract, Yuki’s promotion stalling, and Ric’s likely permanent departure from F1 that made this whole transaction questionable
Had they placed DR into RBR and Liam into V-Carb, Liam would have at least had a warm entry into VCarb. Your managers stirring in the media was not well received in Australia, but we do wish you the best
i miss his dtm season from the video, i know that dtm season end was a disgrace but his results in dtm even more proof that how adaptable racing driver he is, great performance in f2, in super formula and in gt3 cars
First, Red Bull developed an extensive program of young drivers to fill their seats at their both teams. But then they hire outsiders like Perez for Red Bull and De Vries for Alpha Tauri. Next, Red Bull is the only company to have two teams in F1, one with the purpose of winning races and championships, and the other one to develop young drivers, nothing else. Then they sacked an underwhelming driver to put an experienced driver with the purpose to improve the junior team performance and to recover his old form. The problem isn't with Lawson, is Red Bull. They had a junior team but they don't know what to do with it, they keep an academy but they hire drivers outside of it in any time. If Max leaves Red Bull it wouldn't be a surprise if they hire a top driver from other team instead of giving chance to their junior drivers.
@@EATHinNZ that's the point, they should use Alpha Tauri/Racing Bulls/Vcarb or whatever is called to develop their drivers for a season or two, and then move it to Red Bull if they perform well. Having Tsunoda for two whole seasons and the next year too, he proved he has the speed and he outperform his teammates, but not having a promotion to the main team it doesn't make sense. Having Pérez for another season after this one it doesn't make sense too.
Franco's arrival really sc*ewed everything up. Now everyone's waiting to see how he does. Audi still hasn't signed Bottas or a junior driver, VCARB promotes Liam in what feels like an audition for either Toro Rosso or RB knowing there may be another option around and Williams are waiting to see if they have someone potentially better than Albon... Incredible how much can change depending on how he does or doesn't these last six races
I believe the reason Danny R. was so unceremoniously removed was because they truly did try to give him every chance to hold his seat or show that he deserves Perez's spot. Horner tried everything to keep him because he loves Danny and they waited until the very last second to make the decision. If Danny crushed it in Singapore, I think he would have extended his stay, but he didn't crush it, he came in dead last (excluding the DNFs). So Helmut brought down the hammer to a decision that ultimately should have been made a while ago but it wasn't made because Danny's appeal in the sport , and with Horner.
I cant help but agree even as a Danny diehard. it sucks but the old daniel ricciardo has been gone since he joined Mclaren, and thats just the bitter reality of the sport. cant rely on personality and fanfair to carry you forever, sometimes you have to face the reality of your form.
@@Leaferr I'm a huge fan of Danny as well and it sucks to see it go down like this. Would love to see him start a show or his own youtube channel because even though he won't be racing in the sport, I still want to see him in the world of F1 in some capacity.
Really it's a problem with Red Bull's structure. A team principal's responsibility is not just running the team, but also the very important commercial side of the business, getting the money, relating to sponsors, getting the marketing out there. Without Mateschitz being the final word, you basically have the commercial side of the business at war with the driver development side. I mean, yes Horner loves Danny, but of course he does, the whole point of Red Bull being in F1 is to sell drinks and Danny is a marketing gold mine. And then you have Marko, whose entire existence in the company is driver development, and he doesn't have any purpose if he's not constantly bringing in new talent. This situation wouldn't exist if there was one boss with one final say... they would have picked a direction and stuck with it for the season... either bring in the new guy and develop him or go with the old guy and ride the last bit of positive marketing with him as you can.
It’s strange that’s how they did it, because Ricciardo has put together a great run from Canada-Zandvoort where he was the team’s lead driver and he even out-qualified his teammate 7 out of 8 times Remember he was a serious option for Red Bull, a lot of rumors saying Perez was out over the break. They changed their mind at the last moment, kept Perez, and with Lawson under contract for 6 races, that was the final blow for Ricciardo It played out like Andretti 93
I haven't seen a lot of people mention the fact that Danny did so poorly in Singapore was because he ended up with debris in his front brake on the first stint. Overheated his brakes, came in early to clear it, had to swap out his soft tyre stint which completely compromised his entire race as he lost any advantage on that tyre and was stuck out on dead tyres. Obviously he's had his chances but it was such a shit way for him to go out and terrible luck that feels even worse.
Hey Josh! Dutch F1 fan here.. i remember having some extra time left on the weekend and i watched the first race of F2 2022...... The first thing i thought that race.. That Liam Lawson guy is quick. New Zealand is not the only country seeing that he is good
I do truly hope he can pull it off. Watching him go up the jr ranks till now has been an absolute treat, and watching a good kiwi driver would make those early wake ups/late stay ups so much more worth it. I am loyal to the flag and biased tho 🇳🇿🇳🇿🇳🇿
We haven't seen the best out of Lawson in F1 yet. From what I remember in practice during 2023 he was quite conservative and took the slowly build himself up approach only really going for it in Qualifying, he often said he wasn't feeling that connection with the car and what the limits was. What I notice about Colapinto is that he's super aggressive and pushing hard in every session. It's a more Max Verstappen approach which is great if you get it right, but it can be costly for the team as Colapinto found out in Baku. Funny we all overlook it because his race results have been good. Anyway, I think the only reason they haven't announced Lawson for 2025 is because they haven't decided which team he will be driving in. Should he have some really good results he could get moved straight into the Red Bull seat alongside Max. I personally would prefer they gave him a proper run in VCARB with a little less pressure just so he can get a rythme, but I do think he would be an upgrade on Perez at this point.
With Colapinto, you're right his crash at Baku was overlooked. When you consider that he nabbed four points for the team and this allowed them to get ahead of Alpine in the WCC it's more understandable. Factor in Logan's all of Logan's smashes and crashes over the last season or so for a solitary point in total it becomes even more so. Fast and crashy is better than slow and crashy. Even better when the fast and crashy get more points - but no driver can afford to make a habit of crashing often.
Yer, i thought that was the case. Aren't the six races at VCARB this year being done for possibly replacing Perez in 2025? That would make sense, but Red Bull driver management barely ever makes sense.
@@seekhearts I did watch the whole video. please site where Josh states that Liam has 6 drives and nothing confirmed for 2025....you can't...perhaps just work on your english comprehension
To be fair, Hartley is a 4x WEC champ along with another ex-Bull 4x champ Buemi, plus Mark Webber (1 time champ). Just goes to show, some drivers are suited to other fields.
He wasn't naturally suited to F1 is what I saw and Stroll and Leclerc crashing into didn't help. Remember when he braked and the wheels fell off? But Liam Lawson looks like a natural in an F1 car.
One note to add to this to show that he really is super fast as a driver is, 2021 in DTM. As a rookie, almost took out the title, but was Yeeted into and car was damaged which broke everyone's heart. Given that is a completely different category, proves he's got the speed.
10:33 I feel like this is the one retirement of his that shouldn’t be getting made light of. He absolutely made the right call retiring. That race was a fucking catastrophe and I’d rather see a driver drop out than get heat stroke fighting for P17.
I am a Danny Ric fan and was and still am devastated that he’s gone (especially in that manner 🤬) but I also like Lawson and think he’s well overdue for his chance in F1. I feel so bad for Liam for all the hate and negativity he’s been getting. Ricciardo fans need to remember this is Red Bull’s fault not Lawson’s and redirect their hate at the company and not the replacement driver. Liam should have gotten the seat instead of de Vries, to me that’s where Alpha Tauri messed up the first time with Liam. I don’t think Nyck should have been signed in the first place, one decent race does not warrant a race seat imo (especially when the team in question has plenty of drivers in their own academy to choose from!!). When Nyck was kicked out I do think Ricciardo was the right choice then cause the team needed a morale boost, Daniel’s personality certainly helps them there, and Yuki learned probably the most from Daniel out of the few teammates he’s had. Red Bull/Alpha Tauri had a second chance to set things right with the course of Liam’s career and, imo, Checo should have been dropped and Daniel should have been signed to Red Bull then freeing up the VCARB seat for Liam this year. with as much as RB went on about Daniel’s times at the infamous tyre test I do not understand how why they would gas him up and then not let him move up. I genuinely think if he hadn’t broken his wrist Daniel would be at Red Bull rn 😖 but that didn’t happen and DR got screwed. I hope whatever he does next is wildly successful so Red Bull can eat 💩 and I ~really~ hop Lawson does well so that his promotion and the subsequent domino effect of one of the most beloved drivers in modern F1 being kicked out of the sport proves to have been worth it in the end and not a mistake. if anyone actually read all of my novel here congratulations you’re probably an F1 nerd like me 😂
Onya Heather - i read it all! Putting NdV in the AT was a downright weird decision, especially since Red Bull has such an extensive junior program. It's great to see Liam getting his chance at long last anyway.
With Liam I feel so much recency bias. Ignoring F2 (which he did very well in) he almost won the title in DTM (whilst running a full time F2 program and beating Albon) and almost won Super Formula (which Iwasa this year is not doing, granted Nojiri didn't have a punctured lung this time and the car is now 2 years old). He's fully worthy of this seat and I truly believe he won't drown.
Been watching F1 now since 2018, I've seen a lot of talents in F2, Charles, George, Lando, Alex, Oscar, etc. One could argue Liam's performances weren't quite up to the same standards in his two f2 seasons. However, I believe this guy is the real deal. Franco imo has shown that you can do average to fairly good in the junior formulas and excel in F1. In contrast to De Vries for example. Liam went from almost winning DTM at 19 years old, finishing 3rd in F2 in 2022 and just missing out in Super Formula. That adaptability to just jump in anything and deliver is so important, especially in this current era of F1. He may not be the next Max or Lewis but he may just be the guy Red Bull needs for the future and will bring that fiery aggression and determination we've seen from Max. He has made the most of all the opportunities given to him and honestly, i have no doubts we'll see him in that second Red bull seat in Melbourne. Supporting the kiwi's from the UK!
It reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Mr. Burns stole the US trillion dollar bill destined to help Post WW2 Europe. The Europeans didn't get their promised money so they decided to forever act snooty to Americans.
People need to forget about Colapinto being picked up by RBR/VCARB. He's a Williams driver. They gain nothing from loaning him to an opponent and RBR have their own juniors with Hadjar and Lindblad in the wings.
16:34 I'm sorry but that was absolutely needed. I think the general consensus is that Danny Ric didn't deserve it and tbh it just makes me dislike the dynamic of Red Bull more and more as a team. They need a whole rebuild right to the core, but that won't happen until Marko is inevitably dead and gone. Liam absolutely deserves no hate for the moronic decisions of Red Bull management.
Lawson might not be a one lap pace guy, but his overall race pace and consistency shows that he has potential. Media tried to call out Williams when Sargeant was replaced by Colapinto by he proved his worth that they're actually did one 180 and changed the narrative to "why Williams has not promoted him sooner", who knows, maybe Liam could be that guy too or more.
You did exactly what I thought you'd do. You're parochial toward the flag and country, then give an excellent analysis of the situation, then wave the flag a bit more. Respect Mr Revell. I too hope Liam does well, but it's hard the way that team operates.. and my opinion is that Yuki is barely an F1 driver and the teams overall need to up their game in what is fast becoming a farce.
I don't envy Liam stepping into Danny Ric's shoes for the remainder of the season and I'm not talking about the hate from fans, they have goldfish memories and will be over it soon. It's knowing that you're driving for a team that has shown itself to be totally INEPT when it comes to managing its people. If I were Liam, I'd use the six races as an opportunity to show off my wares and hopefully field some offers from a competitor that is a little more capable in the HR / PR department.
I like your content, but I have to ask: why do you do such intense cuts with your audio voiceover? It creates a cascading effect like a new replica of you is waiting to say the next line AS SOON as the current sentence finishes. And sometimes the cuts are mid-sentence (where commas would be perhaps). But it seems to be done in a stylistic manner so I assume it's deliberate rather than cutting out ums/ahs. Is it to make your delivery sound like an AI/text-to-speech bot?
It's been ages since I watched one of his videos and I had to stop two minutes in. It's so jarring and makes each sentence seem like a new random thought.
Look, idk about a full seat but him outqualifying max on the rb19 at singapore makes him at least deserving of a second mini test stint from here to the end of the season. Also i still cant believe the impact Franco has had in such a short time despite being thrown at the deep end having to debut racing in baku and singapore... I still get chills when i hear people say his name, so fuckong proud. And for last, shame on rb for danny's treatment, we wont forgive nor forget.
Awesome video brother! Know who I’d love to see you do one about? Oscar Piastri! That would be really interesting. I also genuinely think next season he has a shot at the world championship and will actually be the no1 driver over Norris.
Our big brother was wronged. For how long and how well he did in the sport he deserved a sendoff and some respect. I hope my fellow Kiwi does well, but my faith in the team went further down after Singapore.
@@derking3319 ich glaube es war ein WW2 reference vielleicht Oder wieso viele deutsche ja gerne in Holland einkaufen gehen da die meisten Sachen günstiger sind
Sure, Liam gets some friendly neighbourhood hate from us Aussies, but have you seen how Latin America turned on Ric when the media started headlining Perez as washed? The frequency of their toxicity against Ric is insane and still is.
All you have to say about Liam is that he beat many many experienced GT3 drivers in DTM - in his first year. And that he beat many many experienced Super Formula drivers - in his first year. Both times coming second in the championship and really close to winning it.
What most people forget is that drivers can be heavily influenced by how a team operates. Many great drivers didn't succeed in F1 because they just hated to "go to work". And I think RedBull is a prime example of a team that clicks with you, or it doesn't with nothing in between. A career maker or breaker.
Did they really confirmed him for the 2025 Season? I thought he was managed to be only for the remaining 6 races and then see if he can make the jump to Red Bull.
How many present F1 drivers have had to beg borrow and inspire their way through their junior years and haven’t been carrying bags of cash into their first drive ? Also coming from an insignificant market at the bottom of the world? The pressure Liam’s been under must have been immense ,and for him to perform the way he has is nothing short of incredible . Can’t wait to see him in a competitive car with a full time contract.🇳🇿
what wouldve been better is if Lawson and Ricciardo were teammates, so Ricciardo could be like a mentor to Lawson since he has a lot of experience in F1
I reckon if Liam gets a better car he would be in the point most weekends as he was in or near the point with last sessions car even thought it wasn't close to as good as the Red Bulls that Max and Sergio had. I think he just need a little more experience and to become a bit more familiar with the car and hopeful he will show he is worth promoting to main team or another team that need a driver will providing him with a better set. Which I believe if he keeps up the consistance he had and improves to like 8th or more but even just getting consist score in the top 10 he will get noticed. Plus he out scored more experienced drives in other teams so I think he will do well. I also think he has a good level head on him and seems to have a good understanding of the technical side of things I think would should help.
You should do a video on Mike Thackwell, that would be a good one... one of the greatest talents of his generation, but on the other hand a complete maverick who just would not conform to what was expected of him
Can you feel Revels passport bleeding through the screen. Of course now we just have to hope his curse doesn't strike otherwise the New Zealand government might have to talk to him.
I'm surprised Red Bull never stuck with the Driver Swap idea they had in 2005 between Klien and Liuzzi. Just seems at the start of this year that they had not enough trust in Yuki, Daniel or Liam and it was inevitable one driver would be taken out to trial Lawson again. So why not have a rotating seat? Now I know for most teams this is a stupid idea, but RB makes sense. They could try out multiple different drivers in a season and assess them all at the same time. Come to think of it, they didnt even stick to it in 2005 when they gave Klien 4-5 races, rotated him for Liuzzi and gave him a couple and then put Klien in for the rest of the year. I wonder why they never stuck to it and we all would have got a better picture of where all the Red Bull juniors stack up against each other and could have seen a whole lot more come in.
Putting up a picture of Niki Lauda when saying "louder", but not putting one of Jarno Trulli when saying "truly" was a missed trick
he also said "put your helmet (Helmut) on" while having a picture of Liam Lawson and Helmut Marko
kiwis don't even realise they dropped a truly
Lawson fully deserves the chance, but I'm afraid the way Danny Ric was dropped is leaving a sour taste in many people's mouth, and that might play into a lot of bias against Liam that he doesn't deserve
That's like blaming the child for divorce. Just stupid
@@zef9151 yet people still do it
He had a good run.🤷
Is time for other to eat.
Def I already hate Liam
$100 million must be really harsh to live with 😵 there's more who don't care about DRs feelings being hurt than do.
The problem is that Liam should have been in that seat at the very beginning of the season
Someone gets it the way danny ric got dropped is crappy but r this was one of the many below average drivers we’ve had with little support no one would care especially if they had Danny rics results. Liam deserves this and Danny had a poor exit both can be true
Very beginning of LAST season to be exact
@@FrosteeWusky he should’ve been in before Danny ric even got the seat as well as the rest driver and the best potential guy from their program this whole dilemma is of red bulls making they treated Danny ric like a golden child until he clearly was at best a more experienced and well liked version of what we’ve seen of Liam but in a junior team that doesn’t really work no hate to either driver I like em both but it’s Liam’s Time and that’s fair enough
*Beginning of 2023
Racing Bulls needed sponsors, DR made it possible to get some. R&D cost a ton of money the then Alpha Tauri didn't really have. And even now, the car is still a tractor and I wouldn't be suprised if VCARB end up at the bottom with Alpine and there's nothing Lawson could do to prevent it. Yuki is far from getting those solid points he got early in the season. Yes, DR underperformed but don't get it mistaken, the team is also weak.
Liam was absolutely the right choice from the start. It was just the way the Red Bull/VCARB handled Checo’s contract, Yuki’s promotion stalling, and Ric’s likely permanent departure from F1 that made this whole transaction questionable
Had they placed DR into RBR and Liam into V-Carb, Liam would have at least had a warm entry into VCarb.
Your managers stirring in the media was not well received in Australia, but we do wish you the best
red bull management have become public enemy number 1
YOU DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, DUMP A DRIVER AS BELOVED A DANNY RIC IN THE WAY YOU DID
@@KenzieRetro BELOVED? LMAO you mean washed. PERFORMANCE FIRST, SMILES LATER.
You guys are cults.
He should have had Devries seat from the rip
Older Aussie F1 fans like me remember its not the first time RB disrespected our own. "Not bad for a number 2 driver", anyone?
I repeated the "Marko Said, Dickhead Said" part 18 times because it feels so good to hear someone openly refer to Horner like that
What about Horndog?
i miss his dtm season from the video, i know that dtm season end was a disgrace but his results in dtm even more proof that how adaptable racing driver he is, great performance in f2, in super formula and in gt3 cars
I was surprised that wasn’t mentioned too
First, Red Bull developed an extensive program of young drivers to fill their seats at their both teams. But then they hire outsiders like Perez for Red Bull and De Vries for Alpha Tauri. Next, Red Bull is the only company to have two teams in F1, one with the purpose of winning races and championships, and the other one to develop young drivers, nothing else. Then they sacked an underwhelming driver to put an experienced driver with the purpose to improve the junior team performance and to recover his old form.
The problem isn't with Lawson, is Red Bull. They had a junior team but they don't know what to do with it, they keep an academy but they hire drivers outside of it in any time. If Max leaves Red Bull it wouldn't be a surprise if they hire a top driver from other team instead of giving chance to their junior drivers.
If Max ever leave Red Bull for Mercedes, they can easily find George Russell / Oscar Piastri to replace Max
@@keiming2277 which is literally the point, they should be using their development programme instead... That's the entire point of their whole system
@@EATHinNZ that's the point, they should use Alpha Tauri/Racing Bulls/Vcarb or whatever is called to develop their drivers for a season or two, and then move it to Red Bull if they perform well. Having Tsunoda for two whole seasons and the next year too, he proved he has the speed and he outperform his teammates, but not having a promotion to the main team it doesn't make sense. Having Pérez for another season after this one it doesn't make sense too.
New Zealand produces a ton of good racecar drivers ngl. It's about time we get reminded of that. Go Liam
Fr we got Liam Lawson, Shanve Van Gisbergen, and Scott Dixon
@@dinonuggie1908 and Scott McLaughlin. He's fking fast
@@kaleem9652 and Hartley (in WEC at least).
Hartley 😂😂😂😂 yeah ok..
@@5150TJT Hartley, 3 time Le Mans winner and 4 time WEC champion yEaH oK
Video starts at 18:34
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The NZ anthem instrumentals in this video were used amazingly. Good video as usual Josh 👏
as a relative of dennis hulme's, im really happy with Lawson getting the seat, i can only hope that he can be the second kiwi champion in history
Franco's arrival really sc*ewed everything up. Now everyone's waiting to see how he does. Audi still hasn't signed Bottas or a junior driver, VCARB promotes Liam in what feels like an audition for either Toro Rosso or RB knowing there may be another option around and Williams are waiting to see if they have someone potentially better than Albon... Incredible how much can change depending on how he does or doesn't these last six races
Screwed isn't a swear word, the hell are you censoring it for?
Franco tbf might be THE 2nd best rookie as of now(1st is alonso ofc)
It amazes me, as a Brit, how many Kiwis are in top flight racing. It must be in the water!
What a coincidence - as a Kiwi, it amazes me how many top flight Brit drivers (& an Aussie too) are in our racing team!! 🤣😎
It's in the country back roads
@@GeeTeeNZ Meanwhile Canada has Lance Stroll and that's it. Even South Africa has the Van der Linder brothers
I must be drinking from the wrong tap 😖😛 🇳🇿
@Dontmakemehiddenpwease-uh7go Yeah.......If I were Canadian, I wouldn't be too proud of that fact 😂
I didn't think they had confirmed Lawson for anything past the end of 2024?
They haven't
they haven't announced, but I reckon something is cooking, if not VCARB, RB replacing Perez.
Correct 👍
Nope, if he performs, he will get a seat. If he doesn’t, he’s gonna be gone
They haven't but for now, it's to honor his contract, if he didn't race in 2024, he can walk out as early as new years 2025
0:24 absolutely heinous description of Brendon
He's certainly made a cracking start. Completely outclassed Yuki.
I believe the reason Danny R. was so unceremoniously removed was because they truly did try to give him every chance to hold his seat or show that he deserves Perez's spot. Horner tried everything to keep him because he loves Danny and they waited until the very last second to make the decision. If Danny crushed it in Singapore, I think he would have extended his stay, but he didn't crush it, he came in dead last (excluding the DNFs). So Helmut brought down the hammer to a decision that ultimately should have been made a while ago but it wasn't made because Danny's appeal in the sport , and with Horner.
I cant help but agree even as a Danny diehard. it sucks but the old daniel ricciardo has been gone since he joined Mclaren, and thats just the bitter reality of the sport.
cant rely on personality and fanfair to carry you forever, sometimes you have to face the reality of your form.
@@Leaferr I'm a huge fan of Danny as well and it sucks to see it go down like this. Would love to see him start a show or his own youtube channel because even though he won't be racing in the sport, I still want to see him in the world of F1 in some capacity.
Really it's a problem with Red Bull's structure. A team principal's responsibility is not just running the team, but also the very important commercial side of the business, getting the money, relating to sponsors, getting the marketing out there. Without Mateschitz being the final word, you basically have the commercial side of the business at war with the driver development side. I mean, yes Horner loves Danny, but of course he does, the whole point of Red Bull being in F1 is to sell drinks and Danny is a marketing gold mine. And then you have Marko, whose entire existence in the company is driver development, and he doesn't have any purpose if he's not constantly bringing in new talent. This situation wouldn't exist if there was one boss with one final say... they would have picked a direction and stuck with it for the season... either bring in the new guy and develop him or go with the old guy and ride the last bit of positive marketing with him as you can.
It’s strange that’s how they did it, because Ricciardo has put together a great run from Canada-Zandvoort where he was the team’s lead driver and he even out-qualified his teammate 7 out of 8 times
Remember he was a serious option for Red Bull, a lot of rumors saying Perez was out over the break. They changed their mind at the last moment, kept Perez, and with Lawson under contract for 6 races, that was the final blow for Ricciardo
It played out like Andretti 93
I haven't seen a lot of people mention the fact that Danny did so poorly in Singapore was because he ended up with debris in his front brake on the first stint.
Overheated his brakes, came in early to clear it, had to swap out his soft tyre stint which completely compromised his entire race as he lost any advantage on that tyre and was stuck out on dead tyres.
Obviously he's had his chances but it was such a shit way for him to go out and terrible luck that feels even worse.
HOW ARE WE FEELING JOSH
If there's one video YOU had to make, it's this one. Great job, seriously!!!!
Hey Josh! Dutch F1 fan here.. i remember having some extra time left on the weekend and i watched the first race of F2 2022...... The first thing i thought that race..
That Liam Lawson guy is quick. New Zealand is not the only country seeing that he is good
I do truly hope he can pull it off. Watching him go up the jr ranks till now has been an absolute treat, and watching a good kiwi driver would make those early wake ups/late stay ups so much more worth it. I am loyal to the flag and biased tho 🇳🇿🇳🇿🇳🇿
Interesting fact, Brendan Hartley’s first race in the USA, in Grand-Am, was with Starworks Motorsport in Austin 2013
Josh just jinxing the poor lad early doors 😂
17:14 Why do I feel like the Emperor's "Theme" is suited right here? Because all of these seems to point at one man.
We haven't seen the best out of Lawson in F1 yet. From what I remember in practice during 2023 he was quite conservative and took the slowly build himself up approach only really going for it in Qualifying, he often said he wasn't feeling that connection with the car and what the limits was.
What I notice about Colapinto is that he's super aggressive and pushing hard in every session. It's a more Max Verstappen approach which is great if you get it right, but it can be costly for the team as Colapinto found out in Baku. Funny we all overlook it because his race results have been good.
Anyway, I think the only reason they haven't announced Lawson for 2025 is because they haven't decided which team he will be driving in. Should he have some really good results he could get moved straight into the Red Bull seat alongside Max. I personally would prefer they gave him a proper run in VCARB with a little less pressure just so he can get a rythme, but I do think he would be an upgrade on Perez at this point.
With Colapinto, you're right his crash at Baku was overlooked. When you consider that he nabbed four points for the team and this allowed them to get ahead of Alpine in the WCC it's more understandable. Factor in Logan's all of Logan's smashes and crashes over the last season or so for a solitary point in total it becomes even more so.
Fast and crashy is better than slow and crashy. Even better when the fast and crashy get more points - but no driver can afford to make a habit of crashing often.
As a kiwi myself. Yes.
I trust this unbiased opinion!
Yes he is
@@martinkrebs4721 Nailed it
The best part of Liam is his adaptability with cars and performing good immediately.
F2, F1, DTM, Super-formula
Um lawson doesn't have a seat in 2025 at this point. He has 6 races in 2024. The end
Yer, i thought that was the case. Aren't the six races at VCARB this year being done for possibly replacing Perez in 2025? That would make sense, but Red Bull driver management barely ever makes sense.
Just want to see Liam get a full season lol
Well done for not watching the whole video.😂 he addresses it
@@seekhearts I did watch the whole video. please site where Josh states that Liam has 6 drives and nothing confirmed for 2025....you can't...perhaps just work on your english comprehension
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Kiwi pilots are vey good, Scott Dixon, Scott McLaughlin, Nick Cassidy, Armstrong, Lawson etc .... Impressive for a small country !
Yuki deserves more hype. If he doesn’t get the Red Bull seat I’m gonna riot.
Didn't get rid of Checo because of sponsors, got rid of Daniel even thought he sponsors love him.
Maybe cause he is getting old and can’t score a single point
Liam has the experience of a races last year with the same team and i am thinking, he will do his jobs.
He should be in Stroll's seat
You're right but you'd be more right if you said Checho
Hahahah
When I’m in a living in people’s head rent free competition and my opponent is Lance Stroll:
He didn't have a problem proving he should be last year filling in for Ric.
Can't believe people really thought the lineup should've been Lawson and ric
“Capture the eye of Marko” 😂😂😂 best line in the whole video hahaha
I love when our country gets recognized for something rather than just the country next to Australia and rugby
What about haka
What about Sailing? Rowing?, Kayaking? Softball?
To be fair, Hartley is a 4x WEC champ along with another ex-Bull 4x champ Buemi, plus Mark Webber (1 time champ). Just goes to show, some drivers are suited to other fields.
Absolutely agree and that is where sir Lancelot stroll should go
He wasn't naturally suited to F1 is what I saw and Stroll and Leclerc crashing into didn't help. Remember when he braked and the wheels fell off? But Liam Lawson looks like a natural in an F1 car.
Same with Giovinazzi and Kvyat. They're doing well in endurance racing.
One note to add to this to show that he really is super fast as a driver is, 2021 in DTM. As a rookie, almost took out the title, but was Yeeted into and car was damaged which broke everyone's heart. Given that is a completely different category, proves he's got the speed.
By saying that it is a completely different category you are contradicting the previous sentence.
10:33 I feel like this is the one retirement of his that shouldn’t be getting made light of. He absolutely made the right call retiring. That race was a fucking catastrophe and I’d rather see a driver drop out than get heat stroke fighting for P17.
I am a Danny Ric fan and was and still am devastated that he’s gone (especially in that manner 🤬) but I also like Lawson and think he’s well overdue for his chance in F1. I feel so bad for Liam for all the hate and negativity he’s been getting. Ricciardo fans need to remember this is Red Bull’s fault not Lawson’s and redirect their hate at the company and not the replacement driver. Liam should have gotten the seat instead of de Vries, to me that’s where Alpha Tauri messed up the first time with Liam. I don’t think Nyck should have been signed in the first place, one decent race does not warrant a race seat imo (especially when the team in question has plenty of drivers in their own academy to choose from!!). When Nyck was kicked out I do think Ricciardo was the right choice then cause the team needed a morale boost, Daniel’s personality certainly helps them there, and Yuki learned probably the most from Daniel out of the few teammates he’s had. Red Bull/Alpha Tauri had a second chance to set things right with the course of Liam’s career and, imo, Checo should have been dropped and Daniel should have been signed to Red Bull then freeing up the VCARB seat for Liam this year. with as much as RB went on about Daniel’s times at the infamous tyre test I do not understand how why they would gas him up and then not let him move up. I genuinely think if he hadn’t broken his wrist Daniel would be at Red Bull rn 😖 but that didn’t happen and DR got screwed. I hope whatever he does next is wildly successful so Red Bull can eat 💩 and I ~really~ hop Lawson does well so that his promotion and the subsequent domino effect of one of the most beloved drivers in modern F1 being kicked out of the sport proves to have been worth it in the end and not a mistake. if anyone actually read all of my novel here congratulations you’re probably an F1 nerd like me 😂
Onya Heather - i read it all! Putting NdV in the AT was a downright weird decision, especially since Red Bull has such an extensive junior program. It's great to see Liam getting his chance at long last anyway.
With Liam I feel so much recency bias. Ignoring F2 (which he did very well in) he almost won the title in DTM (whilst running a full time F2 program and beating Albon) and almost won Super Formula (which Iwasa this year is not doing, granted Nojiri didn't have a punctured lung this time and the car is now 2 years old).
He's fully worthy of this seat and I truly believe he won't drown.
Been watching F1 now since 2018, I've seen a lot of talents in F2, Charles, George, Lando, Alex, Oscar, etc. One could argue Liam's performances weren't quite up to the same standards in his two f2 seasons. However, I believe this guy is the real deal. Franco imo has shown that you can do average to fairly good in the junior formulas and excel in F1. In contrast to De Vries for example. Liam went from almost winning DTM at 19 years old, finishing 3rd in F2 in 2022 and just missing out in Super Formula. That adaptability to just jump in anything and deliver is so important, especially in this current era of F1. He may not be the next Max or Lewis but he may just be the guy Red Bull needs for the future and will bring that fiery aggression and determination we've seen from Max. He has made the most of all the opportunities given to him and honestly, i have no doubts we'll see him in that second Red bull seat in Melbourne. Supporting the kiwi's from the UK!
Lawson is gonna be my next favorite driver after max.
I’ve been a fan of max since 2016 so it’s not bandwagoning
acting like kiwis dont dominate indycar 🤨
And Indycar and Formula E
Loved that nod to Herta and Palou. the general disrespect F1 fans show to American racing is goofy as hell
It reminds me of that Simpsons episode where Mr. Burns stole the US trillion dollar bill destined to help Post WW2 Europe. The Europeans didn't get their promised money so they decided to forever act snooty to Americans.
That's European F! fans specifically. The rest of us love American series for the most part!
The fact he gets his seat at the expense of an Aussie is just gravy
Finally NZ's greatest F1 TH-camr speaks!!
14:28 Franco is definitely the guy.
People need to forget about Colapinto being picked up by RBR/VCARB. He's a Williams driver. They gain nothing from loaning him to an opponent and RBR have their own juniors with Hadjar and Lindblad in the wings.
Liam so happy for you 🎉🎉🎉
Riccardo, I feel sorry for you and RB will pay the price🤬🤬🤬
And Today Red Bull Announced Liam Lawson as their Driver for 2025🇳🇿🇳🇿🇳🇿
16:34 I'm sorry but that was absolutely needed. I think the general consensus is that Danny Ric didn't deserve it and tbh it just makes me dislike the dynamic of Red Bull more and more as a team. They need a whole rebuild right to the core, but that won't happen until Marko is inevitably dead and gone. Liam absolutely deserves no hate for the moronic decisions of Red Bull management.
The problem isn't Marko, it's fucking Horner. Who you think kept Perez and Ricciardo for the longest time?
Lawson might not be a one lap pace guy, but his overall race pace and consistency shows that he has potential. Media tried to call out Williams when Sargeant was replaced by Colapinto by he proved his worth that they're actually did one 180 and changed the narrative to "why Williams has not promoted him sooner", who knows, maybe Liam could be that guy too or more.
You did exactly what I thought you'd do. You're parochial toward the flag and country, then give an excellent analysis of the situation, then wave the flag a bit more.
Respect Mr Revell.
I too hope Liam does well, but it's hard the way that team operates.. and my opinion is that Yuki is barely an F1 driver and the teams overall need to up their game in what is fast becoming a farce.
I don't envy Liam stepping into Danny Ric's shoes for the remainder of the season and I'm not talking about the hate from fans, they have goldfish memories and will be over it soon. It's knowing that you're driving for a team that has shown itself to be totally INEPT when it comes to managing its people. If I were Liam, I'd use the six races as an opportunity to show off my wares and hopefully field some offers from a competitor that is a little more capable in the HR / PR department.
That would be the perfect outcome.
Eleventh in USGP this morning might justify some faith.
0:05 I will never not believe that Josh Revell works for the Government of New Zealand
And thus Liam Lawsons career ended before it had even began...
I like your content, but I have to ask: why do you do such intense cuts with your audio voiceover? It creates a cascading effect like a new replica of you is waiting to say the next line AS SOON as the current sentence finishes. And sometimes the cuts are mid-sentence (where commas would be perhaps).
But it seems to be done in a stylistic manner so I assume it's deliberate rather than cutting out ums/ahs. Is it to make your delivery sound like an AI/text-to-speech bot?
It's been ages since I watched one of his videos and I had to stop two minutes in. It's so jarring and makes each sentence seem like a new random thought.
@@jamesmalthus2018 In his old visa he used to talk normally!
It's very annoying isn't it!
Thanks for the NZ national anthem in the background. Felt proud of Liam and patriotic. Let’s go 🇳🇿
Look, idk about a full seat but him outqualifying max on the rb19 at singapore makes him at least deserving of a second mini test stint from here to the end of the season. Also i still cant believe the impact Franco has had in such a short time despite being thrown at the deep end having to debut racing in baku and singapore... I still get chills when i hear people say his name, so fuckong proud. And for last, shame on rb for danny's treatment, we wont forgive nor forget.
Bro, Franco had only 8 laps before Monza, it's normal that you're scared.
You know who didn't drown? Yuki Tsunoda.
Freddie slater not being picked up by a junior team is criminal
It was his and his management’s choice, they wanted to keep his options open. His dad is loaded.
0:54 I want this as my ringtone
It's the New Zealand national anthem btw
great video, going to be interesting to see what happens, i would love to see him suceed. maybe Josh has reversed the curse with this video
Liam Lawson has demonstrated patience, determination and versatility on his journey to F1. Best wishes, Liam. Excellent content Josh
I don’t think this was bought to me by the gov of New Zealand and this is going to be VERY biased
Awesome video brother! Know who I’d love to see you do one about? Oscar Piastri! That would be really interesting. I also genuinely think next season he has a shot at the world championship and will actually be the no1 driver over Norris.
I didn't think I'd get the Daniel Ricciardo defense that I needed and felt in my heart from Josh at @16:35... but I appreciated it.
Our big brother was wronged. For how long and how well he did in the sport he deserved a sendoff and some respect. I hope my fellow Kiwi does well, but my faith in the team went further down after Singapore.
-Intro
-"Yes"
-Thank you for watching, don't forget to like and subscribe.
-Rolls outro
lowkey thought that the start was an ad that managed to bypass my 10 adblockers
Love the use of the anthem in this ahaha
7:15 nah m8 I can’t let u get away with this one 💀
As a German I am confused😂
@@derking3319 ich glaube es war ein WW2 reference vielleicht
Oder wieso viele deutsche ja gerne in Holland einkaufen gehen da die meisten Sachen günstiger sind
I am confused too and I'm Italian 😅
Do you remember when Josh talked about Juri Vips and Liam. good times
Yuri Vips and Yuki Tsnips dream team
Being only good at one sport? You forget we are the kings of sitting down with rowing, canoeing, and cycling
Sure, Liam gets some friendly neighbourhood hate from us Aussies, but have you seen how Latin America turned on Ric when the media started headlining Perez as washed? The frequency of their toxicity against Ric is insane and still is.
What do you mean with Giorgio Pantano and Vincenzo Sospiri?
You left me intrigued.
Would love to see a video of them
All you have to say about Liam is that he beat many many experienced GT3 drivers in DTM - in his first year. And that he beat many many experienced Super Formula drivers - in his first year. Both times coming second in the championship and really close to winning it.
You say “the New Zealand Ted Kravitz” and now I want Josh’s commentary from the pit lane mid-race
What most people forget is that drivers can be heavily influenced by how a team operates. Many great drivers didn't succeed in F1 because they just hated to "go to work". And I think RedBull is a prime example of a team that clicks with you, or it doesn't with nothing in between. A career maker or breaker.
The audio in this video is quite different to your usual videos, very boom-y.
Did they really confirmed him for the 2025 Season? I thought he was managed to be only for the remaining 6 races and then see if he can make the jump to Red Bull.
was wondering the same thing, I think Liam himself said it's just for this year
I think he said he has only contract for 6 races? but would really weird if they drop him after 6 races but then again it's Red Bull/VCARB.
Yep only the remaining races this year not for 2025 yet
A Seat for 2025 depends on the results of the last races in 2024. The problem for him is there are more candidates available in 2025.
Not much footage of the guy? How many times did we watch him get into the car? 😜
Another good video, man.
How many present F1 drivers have had to beg borrow and inspire their way through their junior years and haven’t been carrying bags of cash into their first drive ? Also coming from an insignificant market at the bottom of the world? The pressure Liam’s been under must have been immense ,and for him to perform the way he has is nothing short of incredible . Can’t wait to see him in a competitive car with a full time contract.🇳🇿
what wouldve been better is if Lawson and Ricciardo were teammates, so Ricciardo could be like a mentor to Lawson since he has a lot of experience in F1
Nope. don't need that washed smile.
Josh himself didn't expect that
I reckon if Liam gets a better car he would be in the point most weekends as he was in or near the point with last sessions car even thought it wasn't close to as good as the Red Bulls that Max and Sergio had.
I think he just need a little more experience and to become a bit more familiar with the car and hopeful he will show he is worth promoting to main team or another team that need a driver will providing him with a better set.
Which I believe if he keeps up the consistance he had and improves to like 8th or more but even just getting consist score in the top 10 he will get noticed. Plus he out scored more experienced drives in other teams so I think he will do well. I also think he has a good level head on him and seems to have a good understanding of the technical side of things I think would should help.
1:43 “New Zealand Ted Kravitz” is crazy
Liam shouldve had a chance after Albon and before De Vries.
Short answer Yes.
Long answer fuck yes.
You should do a video on Mike Thackwell, that would be a good one... one of the greatest talents of his generation, but on the other hand a complete maverick who just would not conform to what was expected of him
Can you feel Revels passport bleeding through the screen.
Of course now we just have to hope his curse doesn't strike otherwise the New Zealand government might have to talk to him.
6:30 had me crying! Had to stop the video and sort myself out.
Yes.
It's great to know another sportsperson from newzealand other than Kane Williamson
Nice way to work around the curse😂
The fact Josh made a video made on Liam means we're going to have a very very painful next few races for him.....
I'm surprised Red Bull never stuck with the Driver Swap idea they had in 2005 between Klien and Liuzzi. Just seems at the start of this year that they had not enough trust in Yuki, Daniel or Liam and it was inevitable one driver would be taken out to trial Lawson again. So why not have a rotating seat? Now I know for most teams this is a stupid idea, but RB makes sense. They could try out multiple different drivers in a season and assess them all at the same time. Come to think of it, they didnt even stick to it in 2005 when they gave Klien 4-5 races, rotated him for Liuzzi and gave him a couple and then put Klien in for the rest of the year. I wonder why they never stuck to it and we all would have got a better picture of where all the Red Bull juniors stack up against each other and could have seen a whole lot more come in.
Almost 20 minutes to Say: "Hell yeah" 😂😂😂😂 Beauty 😂😂😂
fun fact: he only has a contract for the next 6 races, he hasn't even been confirmed for next year yet
Am i the only one who loved the rant at the end?