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- Conrad Thompson runs 5 pro wrestling podcasts that have their own youtube pages.
This channel is a home to those podcasts with a shorter run like Dark Side of The Podcast
Starrcast is a professional wrestling fan convention promoted by Conrad Thompson usually the weekend of an AEW event.
This channel will also be a home to EXCLUSIVE content from those stage shows.
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If you listen real close, you can hear the Spirit of Stu Hart whispering, "Stretch 'im!" on the wind.
Eh Eh Eh
Lemme see yer neck there, tough guy....
They can't possibly be Stu's spirit. Not enough "eh"s.
"eeenngghhhhh you can see the VEINS poppin' in his temple.... ehhhhnnnnnn...."
after all these years, I'm still watching bret videos haha
Tom had a rough patch of years a while ago. I remember seeing him on LA news here in Southern California after being assaulted over a parking spot dispute near his home. It looked bad. Glad to see he is doing better.
Dude is in his 60s now so I don’t think it’s fair that people are putting him down because he doesn’t look anything like how he did in his 20s. That’s unfair and unrealistic.
Unless you are Mike O'hearn lol
I know... people are assholes
Well Bret Hart still looks almost the same and i believe he barely even touched steroids Bret looked like a natural and you can see it here his arms are still the same size
People are cruel. Looks totally fine to me lol. Looks pretty good for 60+. Yes he's not kicked to the fucking gills anymore..but that doesn't mean he doesn't look good. Looks like an older yogi/vegan type.
😂
"Bret Hart could have a 5-star wrestling match with a mop" ~ Somebody
Bret said that about himself
It would be an epic match, and the only points Bret would lose in the match would be in the category of personality and modesty, lol. Mop wins every time.
Tom Magee was my summer camp councillor back in 1981 in Winnipeg.
This dude finished second to Bill Kazmaier in the 1982 Worlds Strongest Man. That same thing that Halfthor, Eddie Hall and Brian Shaw do? This guy was second best in the world at it at one point.
Kaz is universally regarded as one of the best if not the best strong man of all time as well. Crazy accomplishment from Magee.
Thanks for this footage
Brett tried his best to compliment him....
I actually sense an arrogance, almost irreverence towards Tom. But it's that Michael Jordan esque bravado that comes with greatness.
@@javierlara6350I thought I was the only one. If you just pause this video. As soon as Tom starts speaking. Just look at Bret’s demeanor there. Very arrogant look on his face. I mean come on. In a real fight. Tom Magee kills Bret Hart.lol and I’m a Hitman fan. It always seems like Bret has a disdain for any wrestler with a body on them. You can’t put Tom in the same category as say an Ultimate Warrior. Meaning Tom was an extremely gifted athlete. His resume speaks for itself. I get feeling pride for the work you’ve put in. To really hone the fine details of professional wrestling. But it’s absolutely not Tom’s fault. That he was being pushed at that moment.
I find Tom far more impressive than Bett when they were at their peaks.
@@derekwinkler7414 Bret would kill Tom Magee in his prime. Hell even, Ken Shamrock said Bret was double tough in his 40s when they spared. Tom had the look, he was strong and was very althletic but he had no expérience in combat like Bret did.
How did Tom Magee not do better, in both Wrestling and in Hollywood? No one had the combination of aesthetics and sheer strength that Tom Magee had. The people who competed in strongman contests at Magee's level all looked like Mark Henry (as was said) and are simply cube-shaped people. Tom also seems articulate. How did he not do better?
No charisma and couldn't pick up how to "work" a wrestling match.
Just because you have a look and are in great shape doesn't mean you can wrestle. Wrestling is more than being big and strong. You have to be able to tell a story. Not everyone is good at that. Bret was, Tom wasn't. Not a knock on him as a person but it's the truth.
Timing
Tom was the badass in the sand fighting scene in stone cold vs the boz
"Is that all you got?!" I love that line. Classic movie, Stone cold. Boz wasn't exactly a good actor, but the movie was still very enjoyable.
Hearing Bret talk about Vince talking him into the match with Tom sounds a lot like how Jericho talks about how Vince talked him into the match against Fandango
"Vince has this Jedi Mind Trick shit where you go into a meeting with him, whatever it is, and you come out completely agreeing with him, then wondering what just happened. He DOES this! And I KNOW he does it, because he's done it TO ME!" -Jim Cornette
@@EmptyeyeDotCom undertaker said almost the same thing about Vince. Vince is crazy, but he is CONSISTENTLY crazy
It’s a Canadian secret
Tom McGhee walks out like one of the Village People
Tom Magee looking like an older James blunt. You gotta admit he looks really young for 63 here.
Tom did a shooting star and landed on his feet just for an entrance in the ring I can't believe a dude of his size could do that and wondered why he wasn't a bigger star he had so much potential
Bret looking at Tom's dodgy leather pants 🤣🤣
It’s good to see Bret not looking like a wet dog or dressed like a hobo.
It's always funny hearing Bret basically talk about how Tom was a shit wrestler right in front of him. "Lose to this guy who can't even wrestle?" as Tom has to sit there politely. haha
The Excellence of Arrogance. People place Brett far too high up on a pedestal, and buy into his crap. He was definitely a superstar, but the man isn’t humble or modest in any way, and looks down on everyone. Always has. I have spoke to him in person, and talked with his brother Owen occasionally before his death - 2 completely different personalities and people.
In this clip Tom shows respect for the sport, and demonstrates his interest in being the best at anything he pursues, while respecting those who have paved the way. He seems to be a very positive person, who could easily be a motivational speaker or mentor to others. Polar opposite of Brett’s one dimensional nature.
@@beegee8418 I think he might have been the greatest in-ring worker ever, but I've heard from more than one person that Bret tended to be a moody prick.
@@aaronlauretani8921 Most wrestlers are or seemed to be, at least from that time period. It's a rather toxic business in many ways, probably isn't as bad now but it will always be like that. Bret is less like that than a lot of them were.
I mean he points out that he had no experience at the time. So harsh way to say it but it’s one thing to say that and reference how you have no experience to even be good versus it being like 15 years in to where you truly are saying someone sucks. But while a bit douchey to say there’s a respect that he just bluntly says it, right in front of the dude, versus trying to pretend differently to appease him in person and then change his tune when the guy isn’t there. So have to at least respect that aspect of it by just being straight up about it.
Sean Mooney has aged well.
So sad to see the men who had god like physiques in the 80s(Lex luger, Tom Mcghee, Scott Hall rip), wither away. 😞
You expect people to stay 25 forever?
Eeereeeeeeeeh come down to the dungeon in my basement in Calgary eeeeeeeeeeeeeh.
I teach wrestling eeeeeeeeeeeeeh
- S. Hart
1979
When he was in stone cold biker flick he played the part perfectly just like a bulldozer
I still still remember his flip off the top rope ring entrance at a WWF house show in London, Ontario that I attended in my teens. The closest thing to that, sort of acrobatic move from a wrestler back then was Lanny Poffo's moonsault and Magee was a lot bigger and the flip is a lot more difficult to pull off.. Sadly, that was his best move. I remember thinking that this guy might really be something at some point. Too bad it didn't pan out. Maybe his career was rushed too quickly, when wrestlers back in that time period tyically took 5 to 10 years to really break through. However, It didn't sound as though Tom was a fan if he only decided to get involved becauser of the glitz of Wrestlemania. At least he had athletic success in other sports at a high level and he can be proud of those achievements.
Bret is in shock that Tom McGee is now so thin.
everyone is so eager to talk crap on this guy, yeah Vince tried to rig him as the next big thing and it failed but be mad at Vince for pulling the kind of crap he does not this guy for taking an opportunity. Wrestling didnt work out for him but he was still a legit body builder and world class competitive strongman. i just watched a match on here of Tom vs Arn Anderson, he really wasnt overly bad he was very acrobatic and probably could have become a good Wrestler with more training. honestly i think lack of charisma and personality were his problem not his wrestling.
Blame Vince for giving a guy a shot? Weird take.
You don’t blame Vince for giving someone a chance but you do fault him for something like this. There’s a huge difference in giving someone a chance who has put their time in, has the requisite skills to succeed in the role, and has a genuine reason to be in that spot outside of just having a good body. But doing it where someone doesn’t have that training and talent to succeed you doom them to fail and set them up for issues backstage because it’s so transparent that they’re getting a role they haven’t earned just because of their body and now someone who’s been skipped over has to incur the risks and work even harder to make them have a chance to succeed at their own expense. There’s a huge difference in that and the perception of the person getting their chance and it being seen as earned. And it boils down to putting people in a position where they have a chance to succeed and doing something like this with someone who has zero experience and just has a good look dooms them almost every time outside of very few exceptions like warrior or Goldberg
@@Matt-cr4vv what kind of personality does Bret have? He was an average mid card talent.
Wrestling is a show business were the looks and gimmick sells more than anything.
That's pretty much the reason Bret Hart was a flop throughout his career.
Tom Magee moat likely didn't become the champion because of Patterson and brisco who mainly guided him when crowning anyone as the champion.
Vanilla Bret Hart and Shawn Michael were the picks of those old veterans than Vince when Vince didn't know who to push.
Another one brett didn't want to lose to
Yeah, unrecognizeable from how he looked in the mid-80s.
Seems like a good guy but no more looks like Superman. More like a regular person here who can easily blend into a crowd.
Brett looks like he doesn't even know who this guy is
From reading Brets body language I see the same,very interesting!
This video has my spidey senses tingling!
Tom changed so much physically, it's odd he doesn't resemble the way he used to look. I say steroids. When you stop using them, you don't look the same.
Well, after that match Tom disappeared so yeah it’s not like they were close anyways
@@QuestioningOurReality He obviously doesn't train anymore and is off the gear but come on the guy is in his 60's
how old is this vid? I saw another where Tom wore the same shirt 2 years ago..maybe it's his starrcast interview shirt
bret was the true super star before all the super stars .. bret and lex luger just by seeing them you could say they were gifted ..
Never won WSM contest, his best finish was second to Bill Kazmaeir.
I was at the Abbotsford air show in August 1987 . He was front row among the thousands of spectators he took his shirt off and many of the so called muscle men put their shirts back on lol. His back looked 3 feet wide and he was getting swooned over by the cute chicks who forgot about the Tomcats in the sky putting on another show.
Why is Tom Magee dressed like that...he's in his 60s😂
seems like a good guy though
As a long time fan since 88 89. I’m just now learning about Tom Magee. Very fascinating individual in my humble opinion. This guy had the look. The size and athleticism. Also the realness. Was strong as a 🐂. And he can fight for real. The diversity in his athletic journey is something to behold. Saying this as a huge Hitman fan. If you just pause this video. As soon as Tom starts speaking. Just look at Bret’s demeanor there. Very arrogant look on his face. I mean come on. In a real fight. Tom Magee kills Bret Hart.lol Tom actually competed in Karate match competitions. The versatility in his athletic resume is insane. It always seems like Bret has a disdain for any wrestler with a body on them. That are being pushed and looked at as the next big thing. You can’t put Tom in the same category as say an Ultimate Warrior(Who was an excellent body builder and probably was an athlete on a certain level.) Meaning Tom was an extremely gifted athlete. His resume speaks for itself. I get feeling pride for the work you’ve put in. To really hone the fine details of professional wrestling. But it’s absolutely not Tom’s fault. That he was being pushed at that moment. Like others have said. Sometimes a guy just has this aura about them. That no way you can convince the audience. This guy beats this other guy in a real shoot fighting situation. It’s the laws of nature in the food chain of the animal kingdom. This is key for me and should be a major component. In building molding a guy in professional wrestling. It’s how you really tap into the audiences psyche.
Bret can't get over the audacity of this jabroni to come out on his stage wearing leather trousers.
Hosted by David Wallace of dunder miflin.
Tom was such a big dude, that a victory for him was logical. Tom was a talented guy, but should have stayed in development for a longer spell.
Tom must have been buffed and really athletic...now he just looks like an average joe but I still give him respect for being an ex-wrestler
Man is 60
I only know Tom Magee from the movie Dragonfight
Hey Tom...Vince Neil called and wants his pants back.
Mötley Crüe!!!!!!
Surprised Bret looks so annoyed here, he got a reputation for being able to carry anybody to a great match based on that match and became folklore. It was also over 30 years ago.
Really? You're Surprised that the guy who holds grudges like no one else is perturbed about a match that happened 30 years ago???
@@noshow22 He is a naturally angry guy but this is one of those matches that made Bret to a lot of people. He basically wrestled a broom.
Look at brets body language its like he's positioned like he's turning his back on Magee and the way he glances over at him like he's disgusted by him. I think he feels Magee is beneath him
He's arrogant. McGee is a very humble guy and he has been through a lot of bad stuff in his life too. Nowadays, Bret likes to punch down at other people to feel better about himself.
The Excellence of Arrogance. People place Brett far too high up on a pedestal, and buy into his crap. He was definitely a superstar, but the man isn’t humble or modest in any way, and looks down on everyone. Always has. I have spoke to him in person, and talked with his brother Owen occasionally before his death - 2 completely different personalities and people.
In this clip Tom shows respect for the sport, and demonstrates his interest in being the best at anything he pursues, while respecting those who have paved the way. He seems to be a very positive person, who could easily be a motivational speaker or mentor to others. Polar opposite of Brett’s one dimensional nature.
Why is Tom in pleather pants?
He thought he was going to a hair metal concert instead of a professional wrestling convention.
Skinned a car seat..🎵🗡
cause he's tom fuckin magee thats why
This video hasnt started playing yet and im already wondering how bitter bret will be.
Bret seems a little intimidated sitting next to a wrestler he was winless against.
You can tell it's eating away at him.
Brett wanted so bad to say that this guy had no business being in the ring with him.
“You know that girl stole from me” Bret can be so sweet sometimes haha
Magically vanished! 😜
60 year old wearing leather pants…yiiiikes
Tom really lost his mass big time in comparison to bret who lookd 240 here . Looking at tom's matches ,he seened to have it all back then but maybe the ring pschology lacked. Too mechanical plus it did not help how owen hart premiered the same day as him ..
Stolen from your house? According to the woman who had it, she archived copies of Bret Hart associated videos and mislabeled it.. But when an announced searched had begun she the made the claim she was in possession of it,
Bret is talking as if Tom isn’t sitting right next to him.
It's always interesting to me that these guys still feel the need to clarify the name of the organization. "WWE...WWF at the time." While it's nice for them to point that out for the new fans, I think most of if not all the people in attendance there know at least that much about WWE (WWF at the time) history.
Bret is still pissed about losing to Tom and shits on him by basically calling him a scrub. Look at his face when he says "Literally maybe a fff, how many? Maybe couple months experience? " 5:37
100%
@@Doctor-Stoppage yea, he's salty AF lol
Good enough for me and Tommy Magee?
Bret wasn't a tag champ at the time , why do I know that and he doesn't .
"bret what do you remember about tom?'
"well owen, owen, owen, jim neidhart..um brian pillman..."
Did you miss the 5 seconds after when he praised Tom?
@@HitmanEF typical brett,can only praise other people for 5 seconds before making it about him
I admired Tom , and followed him growing up, but lets not kid ourselves, there were peds in those days too
No one holds a grudge like Bret hart
You have to respect his bitterness Destroyed his family over pro wrestling
It’s so funny
I thought the title said Bret Hart Losing Tom McGee...like another death in the business. Idk who Tom McGee was.
Tom McGee was a monster in the early 80’s
Bret is bitter to the point of being impolite directly to Tom. Get over it already.
Nah Warrior's body was the GOAT 😉
Magee looked like Warrior and Kerry Von Erich but Magee was a.legitimate strong man and he was really agile. Which is basically unheard of..Usually a dude who built like a Roman statue is only that. But Magee was a powerhouse so Vince was probably drooling..
Kerry von Erich -- end of story
@Marty McK yet warrior made it and is still remembered as a legend unlike tom
@@avalond1193 Because Mcgee was too green and war rushed ahead with barely any training.
bret exposed tom in that match
Not really...Tom never looked as good in any other match as he did in his match with Bret. Bret made him look like a million bucks, which put Bret over huge with the office when they saw how bad Tom was with everybody else.
It was the exact opposite of exposing him
@@MaddMan621 it weren't he made him look the amatuer he really was, when he was doing his gymnastic flips, bret toyed with him, made him look silly.
And after 30 something years you can tell Bret is still upset about losing that match!.... Just the way he refer to Tom as "this guy" when he said he wasn't to happy about losing to him as if he still don't know his name!..... Times like this make me not like Bret, just like him being selfish with the Montreal thing!....
@@user-bq7wf9zg1bdon’t downplay Brett’s arrogance and lack of self awareness. In his mind he has always been the most important person in the room.
What a "whinner"or is it Weinner"? Upset because the world didn't revolve around you.😢
Damn…he looks nothing like he did in the 80s and 90s.
It's not cool to punch down at people. Bret's a miserable guy.
WTF Tom looks tiny.
Holy Moly Looks like Tom stopped the Steroids and Training. WOW
Tom sits disturbingly still....
THIS GUY was pegged to be the next Hogan??? He looks like a session player on an Orleans album.
Yeah 30+ years of life do that to you sometimes.
He didn't look like this in the 80's. He was bigger and more muscular than Hogan ever was.
Pegged, epic
@@pikkon899 More muscular than Hogan ever was?
Hogan, the steroids guy Hogan? That Hogan? The Hogan who could flex his own pecs early in his career Hogan? Sonny Bono in his Republican Senator phase here was NOT more muscular than that Hogan. GTFOOHWTBS
@@trevorhembrough1290 Hogan was thick in the 80's. This guy was far more ripped and had way more definition than Hogan ever did in the WWF. Hogan had more definition in WCW during the NWO phase, more so than when he was in the WWF in the 80's. Go back and compare pictures. It's that simple.
Bret Hart looking like "poser "
I wanna believe him about the powerlifting. Then I look at his arms and go: 🧢 🧢 🧢 🧢 🧢 🧢
It’s almost like muscles disappear after awhile
most likeley roids, i mean unactivity can atrofiate your muscles, but not that far lol you need to do almost nothing to reach that, even my grandpa who was a bit jacked in his prime, kept his big arms (most likely because of the good alimentation)
Look at him in the 80s lol
Check him out in the World's strongest man competitions in the early to mid 80's
30 years ago
I can''t believe Tom being so skinny.
Lex Luger looks like a monster by comparison.
I think Tom is also taller than Lex right, so i reckon it would be much tougher for him to maintain the mass on his body, issues with gas and steroids aside.
He 60
That does not look like the Tom Magee from Stampede Wrestling and BJ's gym in Calgary, holy shit not even the same person
I love Bret Hart’s in-ring work, but he is so condescending to people sometimes. It’s like he thinks he’s the ultimate authority on everything wrestling. He’s second to none when it comes to telling a story in the ring, but I just wish he was a little more humble. That’s just me.
Was a big fan of Bret as a kid and I defend a lot of his actions but some of the things he says here, and the way he acts is just not nice. Like there's no reason to be _so_ dismissive of a guy who knew he didn't make it now, 30 years after the fact. He rolls his eyes and so all it's like "dude, he's a powerlifter and an athlete in multiple sports, you opted out o Olympic competition to do pro-wrestling. To 99% of the world, Tom's the legitimate athlete and you're the fraud."
What the fuck am I watching?? Bret Hart, do you have anything else to do with your time?
Bret is so insecure, all he talks about in any situation possible is how great he was, desperately looking for that affirmation n then not necessarily in this video, but he's so bitter about everything n everyone...anything he was apart of that sucked is everyone else's fault but his.
Bret is right though. Tom would have benefited much more, just going through a winning streak, beating a bunch of job guys, over immediately defeating the tag champ after no build up.
Rajdeep K Bret Hart can do no wrong, just ask him. His Mount Rushmore of wrestling is just four Bret Harts. Bret Hart should've been the one to induct Bret Hart into the Hall Of Fame. If for example Bret Hart had a match in 2021 against Daniel Bryan n it sucked! It'd be because Bryan doesn't know how to work, not because of Bret but because Bryan is the shits...
And this guy thinks BRET is bitter? Damn, the irony...😅😅😅😅
@@gst013 why do comments like yours exist? For real being condescending doesn’t work on the web
There is no shame in him losing to Tom Magee, because professional wrestling isnt (always) about winning & losing, it's about putting on amazing matches. And when 2 men put on an amazing match (or in this case when 1 man puts on an amazing match and leads another man through it), that's all that really matters.
And you see that the loss didnt harm Bret's career at all and in fact helped it greatly because it demonstrated to the guys in the back that Bret had the ability to help someone look like a trillion dollars without making himself look bad at all in the process. Or in other words it proved he was a tremendous top-tier wrestler & ring-general. And you see that nowadays people dont see the match and think "Oh wow, Bret sucks what a loser." They think "Holy shit Bret is such a master of his craft what an amazing match he orchestrated here." Which becomes far more clear when you see all of Tom Magee's *OTHER* matches.
Bret did you know tom back then?.... Bret goes talks about everthing except tom!!
Sometimes bret seems a bit bitter. I wonder why? He had a great career. He kinda comes off as if he expected to be main event forever. That's Not the way it works.
I think it has to do with him being an exceptional technical wrestler who took the business seriously and thought that merit should be why people are champions and not based on looks. Bret genuinely hates people that get put over who truly are not technicians in the ring but just “look the part”. His biggest fear I think is that certain wrestlers can actually end up hurting you…ie Goldberg.
He shrunk