I am sure someone has considered that Kristin could have had her drink spiked instead of assuming she consumed enough alcohol to pass out on someone’s grass. The police are taught to never assume anything. They can’t run a tox screen on Kristin. So intoxication could be either alcohol she willingly drank or it could be something else that was secretly put in her drink. Had creepy Flores been at the parties Kristin drank in? Hmmm. I remember this case well. I lived in Santa Barbara then. It was such a sad case. I am sure the Smart family are wonderful people and they deserve answers.
Your analogy with the seat belt is spot on. No victim should receive poor commitment from law enforcement simply because their own behaviour was not perfect. Thank you.
My mom's brother died in a car accident when he was 18. Just a few days or maybe a week or so after his death, my mom's teacher at school thought it was a good idea to use his death as an example why it's important to wear a seatbelt.
@@kaylabarnes8550 she was right. His tragedy was a cautionary tale and should be used as such. I read that this girl attended a frat party where she didn’t know anyone. Not a good idea for a myriad of reasons.
Did everyone miss Dr. Grande’s point? The campus police were too busy slut shaming the dead victim then focusing on the obvious foul play. Getting drunk does mitigate Paul’s blame for rape/murder. You don’t need to be Sigmund Freud/Sherlock Holmes to understand. It seems like Penguin Freud is above the pay grade above here.
Ladies. especially young ladies, please do not leave an intoxicated friend or acquaintance alone with a known creep. There, I am a childless 47 year old and now I sound somebody's Mama, but I know campus life so no apologies.
When I was in college, the VERY FIRST time I returned home alone I was attacked by this creep in the elevator. Luckily, I wasn't hurt. It is very important for young girls to always have someone with them no matter what.
Traveling on campus in numbers is probably a good rule for both men and women. Men do get killed on campus, too. Davanta Anderson was murdered on the Stillman campus last year.
This is such a sad case. Smart was partying like so many young college students do in campuses all over the country. But for Smart, that cost her life. On top of that, the investigation was absolutely ludicrous. My heart breaks for her and her family. This was an excellent analysis, thank you as always Dr. Grande!❤️
Thank you for pointing out that her intoxication should have nothing to do with the police's investigation. So obvious, but still there often seem to be certain degree of fault seeking by the investigators. Thank you.
Yes, since so many college students drink, you'd think the cops would look into it for just a minute, then on to the investigation. Maybe the family has 'pull' in the community?
@@LDiamondz I guess the difficult part from the cops point of view is that if there is going to be a group of people that are completely unpredictable, flaky, loose and spontaneous, it is going to be campus living college students. It of course doesn't mean she was any of these things but I have a feeling they compromise on how quickly they rush into something that appears odd because it would happen daily. Still, it seems they were to slack.
She could have been drugged too. Flores had date rape drugs in his house and other women have come forward about him possibly drugging them. He was convicted for Kristin Smart’s murder in 2022.
I teached my son and my son and my daughter that they should never, never leave an intoxicated friend, follow her/him home and see that they were safe. They did that. 🇸🇪
Spirit Matter Thank you. The danger is not only potential dangerous ppl, it can be tragic accidents, severe intoxication damages your reflexes, balance. In my kids school was one boy, when he and his friends went to a bar, they didn’t let him in. He body was found in deep water a week later. A girl on her way home took a short cut through a building site, leaned against a low railing, fell over it about three meters, died probably immediately. They were 17 and 18 years. The boys friends could have put him in a taxicab and paid in advance. Stockholm is no big, would have been safe.
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Yup. My parents did the same for me as I got into my early 20s. It wasn’t bout gender or what was more or less likely to happen. It was ‘drunk people are not in the place to handle sudden emergencies.’ Doesn’t matter if your friend is a 6’4, 200 lb dude. He could go on a drunken stroll, pass out on train tracks, and get hit. He could magically find a set of keys, drive somewhere, and kill a whole family in an accident. He could fall off a balcony and have brain damage, or he could meet an even bigger, stronger, more coherent dude just looking to hurt someone. If they are pitching a fit about being babysat, let them tantrum themselves out while you stand your ground, like you do with a toddler. They’ll fall asleep/pass out soon enough. Make sure they are not critical and can’t get hurt in their sleep, and enjoy watching them in silence. Get a damn baby monitor if you must. We always had the DDs stay at the parties for that reason. Obviously, drunk people need supervision.
I know! If he just tried to hug and kiss someone who is in control of themselves why would you leave them with someone who clearly isn’t able to push them away or fight them off.
I understand that sentiment, but it's easier to be brave in the youtube comments section than to be a woman late at night getting groped by a creep. She was likely terrified and bolted. While everyone would like to think they'd be brave in situations, you just don't know what you'd do. I'm a 6' 220 pound dude, but I am trying to put myself in her situation. And she is likely tormented to this day. I feel badly for her.
It sounds like she was scared of him and she had to protect herself as well. It’s understandable that she may not have wanted to risk her life to protect someone she didn’t even know. She definitely could have alerted campus police after she got away or something like that, but I don’t think that it’s fair to expect her to have stayed there and potentially fight this guy off.
Dr. G, it’s pronounced “San Lewis O-bis-po” we just call it SLO (slow) for short. Thank you for adding to the interest in this case. Kristin’s been missing for far too long. Amazing podcast by a SLO local, In Your Own Backyard. Highly suggest you give it a listen if you’re intrigued by the case.
Black eyes and scratches are critical factors/evidence that point towards his involvement in her disappearance. Thank you Dr.Grande for your analysis of this case.
Especially the lie. If he got them the same way any young man gets a black eye, they got into a fight, you would just tell the cops that you got into a fight. You may be concerned about telling police due to fear of been charged for assault or something, but I don't think so.
I think the cops used the fact that she happened to be drunk when something bad happened to her to dismiss the entire value of her life and not take her disappearance and likely murder seriously. People are allowed to drink and, while she may have been drinking underage, it's a big problem if the police are blaming victims just because they were drunk. In medicine, we're not allowed to ignore patients just because they're drunk. We even treat drunk drivers who have killed a bunch of people because it's our job. Likewise, it is the job of the police to investigate crimes even if the victim hurt someone else while drunk and then was subsequently hurt themselves. If you're investigating her disappearance, her alleged intoxication level doesn't matter and it's also important to note that, since they haven't found the body, they actually don't know what her level of intoxication was.
While Smart’s behaviour was clearly not smart, she could not be held responsible for her own disappearance and murder. The police bias here was “she had it coming”. Shameful.
She wasn’t a big drinker. She was most likely drugged by Paul. She was also over 6 feet tall. She didn’t have time to consume the amount of alcohol she needed to be falling over drunk between when her roommate left and the witnesses saw her.
@@Ariel-ck9he You need to avoid making these types of cognitive errors. You are asserting the following. That although she was known to be drinking heavily and behaving exactly as is common under that circumstance, another cause was present. And that the cause was being drugged, specifically. And that you know exactly who did it. While your scenario is not disproven, it is not even close to likely.
Slow to begin investigating, lost evidence, and sounds like victim blaming saying she was drunk and flirtatious.😡 That's pretty normal for a college student. I'm surprised they didn't throw in that she was wearing revealing clothing as well. Botched
@@LDiamondz The cops only got invited to look at this case after Cal Poly Campus security half heartedly handed it over to the sheriffs dept almost a week after Kirstin was reported missing. By them so much evidence had been lost.
He was just arrested two days ago. "On Thursday, the sheriff's office said the arrest was a result of information obtained during those searches. Sheriff's officials declined to comment further on the LAPD investigation."
Your last line was artfully crafted. Very well worded, and carefully articulated....As always I’m impressed with your thoughtfulness in exactly how you approach very sensitive subjects. I especially appreciated your denouncement of victim blaming/shaming, and providing an example of how to approach behavioral changes that would benefit the victim in the future, without making the crimes that were committed against them, feel as if it were their fault.
Kristin and I used to play together when she lived in Yuba City. She was a beautiful soul who didn't deserve to be murdered. She was being a teenager! She was bright and full of life. She was killed by a predator. Women, never leave your girlfriends behind! Even with a trusted guy friend. You never know what can happen to them. I hope we find you someday Kristin. ❤ The police failed you my friend.
I agree with your analysis that Flores likely killed Smart. Unfortunately, Flores was given the opportunity to go back and cover his tracks several times over.
He had to of slipped up somewhere, he had to of. Somebody had to known of something and they're all not talking. This is such a sad story. Kristin deserves justice as well as her family. I have hope in this case, I still do.
flores father was a cop....n youngster flores worked for cal poly in maintenance(?). go figure why the COVERUP. humbly n w apology to the dear smart family....snowballs in hell theyre going to find that dear girls remains. too many pr problems for too many vested interests--the gov, cops n cal poly, the city too. mr good ole paul might do some time... maybe not. time served if he is in jail now. he may be thrown in a medical prison because of all the other rape victims from the bars....plus the missing girl from coca cola . he worked w her same shift different locations near each other. she was found thrown down a ravine. paul u may have made one too many mistakes ole boy. oooo lord n the videos of women he had at his san pedro house. someone is going to maybe be pressured to tell where Ms Smarts remains are. then many will go to prison. i think Ruben holds the keys to the case. police, in this case, seem to be under that bluecode of silence. Ruben can sink this ship n a few others--if he n his son fry--others will go too.i could be wrong.
Your Liar Playlist! I was folding laundry and I laughed so hard, I dropped my daughter’s clothing! Thank you, Doctor! Also, if he didn’t have a car, how did he hit his face on the steering wheel? 🤔
I remember when this happened. People were acting like it was her fault for being drunk. They treated her like a cautionary tale to young girls. I’m so sorry her family never got justice
Me too. My thing is just; shes not the only girl gone missing in our area. Cops got nothing but family has MONEY. That's why our system is so screwed. Do you realize how much resource was used to investigate this perpetually while so many more are lost? Just a terrible cycle.😪
I live on the central coast, have my whole life. I have heard it be called San 'Louie' Obispo...but never how you said it. I will now be calling it San Luis Opsipo from now on ☺️ I love it hehe
There is a restaurant chain in my area called Huhot. But, a bit of dyslexia has me calling it Hohut, like Ho Hut. I continue to call it that as it makes it all the more interesting.
@@anonymousperson3023 She only means it reasonably fits, and it does unlike your exaggerations made in self awareness. We all know speculation=/=facts. "Justice delayed is justice denied" in an excellent summery of a poor process of investigation is a poor method of justice, even dangerous.
@@anonymousperson3023 omg, I am talking about how Dr.Grande's speculations seems well organized and logical. I didn't say speculations = facts. Every mystery solving begins with speculating what could have happened, some align with facts and some don't. In this case, Dr.Grande's speculations seem reliable.
It’s such a sad story for this young woman. If there was one thing I wish young people could understand is that being intoxicated leaves you so very vulnerable. It seems to me that predators would look for intoxicated people as easier prey.
They really do. You have to use the buddy system, and know your limits with alcohol, and never leave a friend alone. I’d also add stay far away from frat parties too, but that’s because the frats at my college were trash. One got shut down because they were covering for a member who repeatedly raped drunk girls at their parties. And that’s not even getting into the hazing.
YES! My friend who is a very sweet and insecure girl was once at a party with her friends and got drunk after some time. While looking for one of her friends, a random guy came and asked her who she was looking for. He told her he knew where her friend was and lead her away from the others and somewhere more dark. She was oblivious to his attempt and left as she didn't think her friend was there. It could've gone wrong in so many ways.
By now all college frat rows should have security CCTV systems all around and in it. It is very common for college students to get drunk on weekends, especially holiday ones. When I was young, I learned quickly not to get drunk. It was hard to get to sleep when your bed is spinning around. Just putting out one leg on the side of the bed did not stop the bed from spinning.
People at the party testified that she was not drinking heavily and she was not drunk when she got to the party. At the end of the party, she’s lying comatose on the front lawn. Paul Flores comes out of nowhere to escort her back to the dorm (she can barely walk) and insists that he can handle it alone. Paul then shows up with a blackeye and lies about it. On the podcast, a student working late in the library sees them struggling together in one of the dorm lobbies although this did not come out in trial. Later, there are numerous women who testify that he drugged and raped them. The pattern is clear. There might may not be a smoking gun in this case, but there are numerous pieces of evidence that when gathered together point to his guilt.
Thank you Dr Grande. I have followed this case for years as I lived in San Luis Obispo when this happened but not a college student. Thank you for your commentary and timeline.
Thanks for bringing awareness of this case to others. If you want to hear more about it (much more!), there is a podcast dedicated to its details called: Your Own Backyard. But Dr. Grande, I had to giggle at the way you pronounced my town’s name!
Bingeing your videos and so glad you covered this case. I'm faculty at Cal Poly and glad that arrests were finally made. I see others have given you pointers on how SLO is pronounced :) On another note, my students in search of videos on calculating IRR using SPSS found yours! I couldn't adequately convey to them how surreal that was when they shared it with me.
Cal Poly really dropped the ball in this case. They had the nerve to be there at the press conference today after Paul and Ruben were arrested. I hope they find Kristin and give her family some peace. They deserve it.
The daily morning alarm from the flowerbed is the stuff of nightmares. You would think someone would've been curious enough about that to investigate....
So relieved to know that Kristin's killer has been convicted for her murder all those years ago. I pray he receives a Life sentence. Please Thank your Father for his help in getting some long overdue justice for the Smart Family 👪. Rest in peace Kristin❤
I was summoned for jury duty in this case in Monterey county! Unfortunately, I had to request to be excused due to the nature that I am a full time student and employee. I wanted to be a part of that jury so bad.
I don't know how you do it, Dr Grande. Another interesting, informative, and entertaining video. Thank you for bringing objective analysis into our lives. I often find myself listening to or watching your videos to bring some order to my somewhat chaotic world. (My immediate life is ok, but looking at the media or social media makes me feel like we have lost our minds) Thank you for working so hard to keep your channel giving us quality content.
Police just arrested Paul Flores on weapons charge on Southern California today! Dr. Grande we invite you to come visit San Luis Obispo (a.k.a, San Louise Obispo, SLO Town, or San Luis Opsipo 😉)! You are always welcome! Keep these analysis coming!
POV: you’re watching this the day Paul Flores and his father were arrested; him got murder and father for accessory to murder. May everything come to light and closure brought soon. I’ve been following the case for 5 years
Thank you for this video, Dr. Grands. Watching this later, after the arrest of Paul Flores, and you were pointing things out before a lot of people were. We now know more of Flores’ other crimes and his propensity to drug victims… it’s even possible he drugged Kristin. So many reasons this investigation was unfair/inadequate for years. It took an amateur podcaster raising awareness for the police to finally take the steps needed.
Sometimes I'm drawn to the titles. This case reminded me of the movie Goodfellows where they hide a body and had to find another place to hide the body. But the problem I see was the lack of investigation with the police it was almost like they didn't care or they had no knowledge to investigate it more.
I am about the same age as Kristen and was also in college and a lifeguard at the time this happened. I felt such empathy toward her and her family. This case has always haunted me. I hope her family can find closure one day.
I remember seeing flyers about her missing around San Luis Obispo back then. During that time period, (give or take a year or so, I think) there were 2 more young women (also local college students II believe) who vanished from the SLO area, and seeing their flyers, too. I had lived in nearby Atascadero a few years earlier, then, and my daughter was little, and I found it extra chilling and disturbing, having my own child. As it came out, they found the bodies of 2 of the missing girls (Aundria Crawford and Rachel Newhouse) on the property of a parolee near Avila Beach named Rex Krebbs, who was convicted and sentenced to death. Kristen Smart was never found, but I'd always suspected the same killer of the other women might've also been responsible for her death... Funny comment about bumping his head to change the radio to maybe "Sweet Little Lies, "I Don't Believe You" or "Tell Me Lies".
San Luis Obispo is pronounced "san Lewis uh-bis-poh" by the locals :) And it's called "san Lewis" or SLO "slow" by the locals. I hadn't heard about this case, thank you for presenting it
By your picture, I wonder if you were even born yet! It was in the mid-late 90's. But I'm mostly commenting cuz I like your name "PippetandPossum", so cute. And because I love possums!
@@cathylindeboom638 No, I was born in '97. But I lived about 30 minutes away from San Luis and would visit often. I remember seeing a billboard in a downtown somewhere about a missing girl from (I thought) the 80s. But I could be remembering wrong or it could be a different person. My childhood dog's name was Pippet and we named her daughter which we kept Possum. I love both opossums and possums, they're so cute
Aww, I love how you pronounced San Obispo. :) The sad thing is, is there is the Mojave desert three hours away that could easily hide the body till someone eventually finds it. The police moved so damn slow that he had time. We know he did it. This is such a frustrating case.
Ugh. Another case of inept police work. Very sad. 💔 I do think there’s some bias towards being lax about investigation when it’s a woman who’s branded as drunk and “loose”. Interesting, as always. 💖👍🏼💖
You know what natural and appropriate consequences would be for a young adult who drank too much and got flirty at a party? A hangover and an awkward encounter with one of the people they were flirting with once you both sober up. Maybe you stumble around the block with your hangover in full swing, looking for your right shoe, or you find that one of your friends wrote a swear word or drew reproductive organs on your face with a sharpie, and they all claim they don’t remember that happening. At absolute worst, you pee your pants. Murder is not an appropriate or natural consequence for something every young adult does at least once (ie: drink more than you should have at a social event), yet law enforcement acts like it is, for young women. ‘She knew it was dangerous for women to do that.’ Yeah, here’s the thing. We get conflicting messages about our safety our whole lives. We hear ‘don’t walk down the street at night,’ but then those same people turn around and say ‘I don’t get why you need a ride at 11pm for a mile walk. You’re being dramatic again’ when we ask for assistance getting home safe. When someone crosses a line with us or makes us uncomfortable we get told we are too mean for simply saying ‘I’m not interested’ or ‘no thank you’ to these creepy-seeming men when they ask us out. So we stop knowing whether or not we might be in danger. Then we get closer to our roommate, and she opens up about the time she did everything the world tells you will prevent you from getting assaulted, but still ended up being violently attacked by someone she knew for years, who told her ‘let me walk you home so you are safe.’ We stop trying to do the impossible task of pleasing everyone, and guessing what the hell we should or shouldn’t do to reason with an unstable and violent person who does not operate reasonably. We decide we want the same benign and normal experiences that guys have, and usually it works out fine, but once in a while it gets dangerously close to not working out for us. In some cases, it doesn’t work out for us at all, and our lives are ruined, if not over. We just couldn’t read the minds of every person at the party to see who was considering an act of violence. We couldn’t predict the future and avoid certain people. The common denominator isn’t anything the victim did. It’s always the violent predator, because nobody gets raped or murdered if there are no rapists or murderers around.
San Luis O bispo is how to pronounce the name of the city in California. But good try. As always I find you informative, relaxing and enjoying to watch.
The only video actually delivering the straight dope without me spending a day going through the podcast. Every news video seems to leave the story at "last seen with" with zero context.
Police dropped the ball badly in this case. Astonishing the last person to see Kristen Smart didn’t have his room searched for 16 days after it had been cleaned. Heart felt condolences to the Smart family♥️
Oh-bis-po is how it's pronounced. Thanks for covering this. Walking home drunk from a party was common at Cal Poly as the town was small and the community and campus were relatively safe. Once they reached the dorms, the perceived level of danger was diminished, no one expects a student to murder someone in the dorms, but sadly that's what appeared to have happened. I'm positive the people walking her home wish they would have gone the extra last bit and got her to her room and never trusted Flores. Such a sad and horrible event. I'm thankful that it looks like finally there is some hope of justice taking place after all these years.
I'am starting too think if I didn't get a notification from Dr Grande, I would have too assume the WORLD had come too an end !!!!!!!! MAYBE I NEED TOO GET A LIFE ?????
Ok so I’m from Cali, one town over from stockton, and the way Dr. Grande pronounces San Luis Obispo is HILARIOUS. Great vid btw just wondering if anyone else found that funny
Never let someone go home alone or with a stranger! I used to think this was unfair as we should feel safe doing so, but really if there is any intoxication you are not able to mind yourself as well. There are also many apps that exist to be used while alone that will send out emergency messages if the user does not indicate they are safe!
Thank God they arrested Paul and DAD, Reuben 04-13-21 ...now it's time to arrest the Mom, she had to be involved, too...Let Justice Prevail for Kristin and Family. Go Jury!!!
At approximately the same time Rex Allen Krebs ( a sex offender on parole) was active in this area, although he wasn't paroled until 97. He was arrested for two abduction/rape/ murders that have some similarity to this case. It is reminiscent of the plot of Promising Young Woman.
@@LDiamondz Actually, it really is a lovely area. It's a very small city located in an area of abundant wilderness. However, it's a college town. Unfortunately kids away from adult supervision for the first time, perhaps overdoing it with experimental substance use, or living in substandard unsafe rentals or without reliable transport do become victims to these sorts of offenders.
Those cases are not similar at all. Other than the fact that the two girls Krebs tortured and murdered were college students. Rex Krebs wasn’t a student. Krebs sought out those poor young girls. It is crazy though to think it happened in SLO. I live 10 minutes west of Cal Poly.
@@DCBabos The similarities are : all victims are college students and all victims of opportunity. All were kidnapped, i.e. there is no known crime scene, they were removed to another location. And all bodies were hidden. Most sex crimes do not involve kidnapping, it is much riskier. If there is a murder, generally the victim's body is located at the crime scene, usually the street or victim's home. Body disposal often indicates a more sophisticated and experienced perpetrator. So these 3 crimes are actually quite similar. If Krebs wasn't in custody at the time, he would have been looked at for this one.
In my experience “Campus Police Departments” suffers a conflict of interest. They are in service to the University Administration first and foremost before the public and their main prerogative is to cultivate a show of security, when needed quickly quell situations that might make the school look unfavorably but most of the time traffic and parking enforcement. IMHO University Police should be allowed to focus on the latter and be absolved of any investigatory powers because their situation is inherently biased.
Thank you for this. My father is Kristin’s family’s attorney. We love the Smarts - they are such wonderful people and they deserve justice.
Thank You Taylor!!
Oh wow that’s wild to be so close to a case like this. I sincerely hope your father has much success in perusing justice! Cool of you to share😀
Wow you are pretty
I am sure someone has considered that Kristin could have had her drink spiked instead of assuming she consumed enough alcohol to pass out on someone’s grass. The police are taught to never assume anything. They can’t run a tox screen on Kristin. So intoxication could be either alcohol she willingly drank or it could be something else that was secretly put in her drink. Had creepy Flores been at the parties Kristin drank in? Hmmm. I remember this case well. I lived in Santa Barbara then. It was such a sad case. I am sure the Smart family are wonderful people and they deserve answers.
@@corinneb9790 The police are taught to never assume anything? What planet are you from?
Your analogy with the seat belt is spot on. No victim should receive poor commitment from law enforcement simply because their own behaviour was not perfect. Thank you.
Exactly, there's no doctrine of clean hands at play. It's not a court case.
My mom's brother died in a car accident when he was 18. Just a few days or maybe a week or so after his death, my mom's teacher at school thought it was a good idea to use his death as an example why it's important to wear a seatbelt.
@@kaylabarnes8550 she was right. His tragedy was a cautionary tale and should be used as such. I read that this girl attended a frat party where she didn’t know anyone. Not a good idea for a myriad of reasons.
Did everyone miss Dr. Grande’s point? The campus police were too busy slut shaming the dead victim then focusing on the obvious foul play. Getting drunk does mitigate Paul’s blame for rape/murder. You don’t need to be Sigmund Freud/Sherlock Holmes to understand. It seems like Penguin Freud is above the pay grade above here.
Ladies. especially young ladies, please do not leave an intoxicated friend or acquaintance alone with a known creep. There, I am a childless 47 year old and now I sound somebody's Mama, but I know campus life so no apologies.
She was not intoxicated when her friend left her, but I agree they should have seen each other home safely. Sad case.
When I was in college, the VERY FIRST time I returned home alone I was attacked by this creep in the elevator. Luckily, I wasn't hurt. It is very important for young girls to always have someone with them no matter what.
Sad that women have to be on guard all the time, but they do. Gotta watch out for each other. Always.
49 year old childless person with life experience backing this up 100%
Traveling on campus in numbers is probably a good rule for both men and women. Men do get killed on campus, too. Davanta Anderson was murdered on the Stillman campus last year.
This is such a sad case. Smart was partying like so many young college students do in campuses all over the country. But for Smart, that cost her life. On top of that, the investigation was absolutely ludicrous.
My heart breaks for her and her family.
This was an excellent analysis, thank you as always Dr. Grande!❤️
Thank you for pointing out that her intoxication should have nothing to do with the police's investigation. So obvious, but still there often seem to be certain degree of fault seeking by the investigators. Thank you.
Yes, since so many college students drink, you'd think the cops would look into it for just a minute, then on to the investigation. Maybe the family has 'pull' in the community?
@@LDiamondz I guess the difficult part from the cops point of view is that if there is going to be a group of people that are completely unpredictable, flaky, loose and spontaneous, it is going to be campus living college students. It of course doesn't mean she was any of these things but I have a feeling they compromise on how quickly they rush into something that appears odd because it would happen daily. Still, it seems they were to slack.
She could have been drugged too. Flores had date rape drugs in his house and other women have come forward about him possibly drugging them. He was convicted for Kristin Smart’s murder in 2022.
I teached my son and my son and my daughter that they should never, never leave an intoxicated friend, follow her/him home and see that they were safe. They did that. 🇸🇪
Oh, and don't marry Chris Watts.
Spirit Matter
Thank you. The danger is not only potential dangerous ppl, it can be tragic accidents, severe intoxication damages your reflexes, balance.
In my kids school was one boy, when he and his friends went to a bar, they didn’t let him in. He body was found in deep water a week later.
A girl on her way home took a short cut through a building site, leaned against a low railing, fell over it about three meters, died probably immediately. They were 17 and 18 years. The boys friends could have put him in a taxicab and paid in advance. Stockholm is no big, would have been safe.
@Martina Sikk *Jag älskar flaggan emoji du satte. Jag är också svensk! Alltid trevligt att se en svensk kollega! Jag har en dotter och brorsöner också, och jag håller helt med dig om att lära dem detta!*
Yup. My parents did the same for me as I got into my early 20s. It wasn’t bout gender or what was more or less likely to happen. It was ‘drunk people are not in the place to handle sudden emergencies.’ Doesn’t matter if your friend is a 6’4, 200 lb dude. He could go on a drunken stroll, pass out on train tracks, and get hit. He could magically find a set of keys, drive somewhere, and kill a whole family in an accident. He could fall off a balcony and have brain damage, or he could meet an even bigger, stronger, more coherent dude just looking to hurt someone. If they are pitching a fit about being babysat, let them tantrum themselves out while you stand your ground, like you do with a toddler. They’ll fall asleep/pass out soon enough. Make sure they are not critical and can’t get hurt in their sleep, and enjoy watching them in silence. Get a damn baby monitor if you must. We always had the DDs stay at the parties for that reason. Obviously, drunk people need supervision.
You taught your children well...
I hate to say this, but I wouldn't have left that girl with a guy who had just tried to grope me
I know! If he just tried to hug and kiss someone who is in control of themselves why would you leave them with someone who clearly isn’t able to push them away or fight them off.
I understand that sentiment, but it's easier to be brave in the youtube comments section than to be a woman late at night getting groped by a creep. She was likely terrified and bolted. While everyone would like to think they'd be brave in situations, you just don't know what you'd do. I'm a 6' 220 pound dude, but I am trying to put myself in her situation. And she is likely tormented to this day. I feel badly for her.
It sounds like she was scared of him and she had to protect herself as well. It’s understandable that she may not have wanted to risk her life to protect someone she didn’t even know. She definitely could have alerted campus police after she got away or something like that, but I don’t think that it’s fair to expect her to have stayed there and potentially fight this guy off.
Pretty easy to be an arm chair hero, isn’t it?
Hey where's Kristin?
Oh she's just blacked out drunk with Scary Paul. What's the worst that could happen?
Dr. G, it’s pronounced “San Lewis O-bis-po” we just call it SLO (slow) for short.
Thank you for adding to the interest in this case. Kristin’s been missing for far too long.
Amazing podcast by a SLO local, In Your Own Backyard. Highly suggest you give it a listen if you’re intrigued by the case.
Police: golly we just can't figure this out.
Dr. Grande: you can't really collect evidence if don't investigate.
Matt T, you are the winner of the Internet today!!!
Sounds like the Dems declaring no evidence of electoral fraud.
@@tanukiZoot 🥂👍🤠
Black eyes and scratches are critical factors/evidence that point towards his involvement in her disappearance. Thank you Dr.Grande for your analysis of this case.
Yes, I had never heard that--cinches it for me.
Especially the lie. If he got them the same way any young man gets a black eye, they got into a fight, you would just tell the cops that you got into a fight. You may be concerned about telling police due to fear of been charged for assault or something, but I don't think so.
I think the cops used the fact that she happened to be drunk when something bad happened to her to dismiss the entire value of her life and not take her disappearance and likely murder seriously. People are allowed to drink and, while she may have been drinking underage, it's a big problem if the police are blaming victims just because they were drunk. In medicine, we're not allowed to ignore patients just because they're drunk. We even treat drunk drivers who have killed a bunch of people because it's our job. Likewise, it is the job of the police to investigate crimes even if the victim hurt someone else while drunk and then was subsequently hurt themselves. If you're investigating her disappearance, her alleged intoxication level doesn't matter and it's also important to note that, since they haven't found the body, they actually don't know what her level of intoxication was.
While Smart’s behaviour was clearly not smart, she could not be held responsible for her own disappearance and murder. The police bias here was “she had it coming”. Shameful.
Add to it she was underage! She was by herself and he had a history of preying on women. In response the police showed indifference and lost evidence.
@watchmejumpstart Yes.
This is exactly what I was thinking- so upsetting
She wasn’t a big drinker. She was most likely drugged by Paul. She was also over 6 feet tall. She didn’t have time to consume the amount of alcohol she needed to be falling over drunk between when her roommate left and the witnesses saw her.
@@Ariel-ck9he You need to avoid making these types of cognitive errors. You are asserting the following. That although she was known to be drinking heavily and behaving exactly as is common under that circumstance, another cause was present. And that the cause was being drugged, specifically. And that you know exactly who did it. While your scenario is not disproven, it is not even close to likely.
So sad how often women are dismissed as deserving of violence inflicted on them.
Thank you for reviewing this case & bringing attention to it. Poor girl deserves justice.
Just starting this video, but I wanted to say, I LOVE YOUR WORK and knowledge. Thank you for all the work you do Dr. Grande!
“Scary Paul” is one of the most frightening nick names I’ve heard😯Great vid. Thank you Dr.G😉
He was also nicknamed "Chester the Molester"
if this was in washington state hed be in a treatment prison....or on his way to chemical castration.
Slow to begin investigating, lost evidence, and sounds like victim blaming saying she was drunk and flirtatious.😡 That's pretty normal for a college student. I'm surprised they didn't throw in that she was wearing revealing clothing as well. Botched
Yeah, you'd think a college student drinking would be no big deal. These cops had to be amateurs or maybe the Flores family had connections or clout?
@@LDiamondz The cops only got invited to look at this case after Cal Poly Campus security half heartedly handed it over to the sheriffs dept almost a week after Kirstin was reported missing. By them so much evidence had been lost.
@@runningon-dinosaurs1569 Such a travesty of justice.
He was just arrested two days ago. "On Thursday, the sheriff's office said the arrest was a result of information obtained during those searches. Sheriff's officials declined to comment further on the LAPD investigation."
Finally!
Thanks for the update. Let's hope they have enough evidence.
You mean he ran free for all these years? Talk about lack of freakin justice!
Could you cover Rachel Dolezhal? I think your take on her bizarre mindset would be fascinating!
Didnt he already do that one?
She almost seems normal by today's standards though lol
He did that one already.
@@sheilaaskew5486 can’t find it in search. I don’t recall ever seeing it.
When I lived in Spokane I actually met her once at the farmers market. She was very kind to me.
The song was most certainly Bang Your Head by Quiet Riot.
You win the Internet
Ironically enough, that song is actually called "Metal Health"...
Footloose 😬
Radiohead creep
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Grandetime after a difficult day with my autistic daughter. A great way to unwind or rage at my smartphone. Either way, it's cathartic.
Your last line was artfully crafted. Very well worded, and carefully articulated....As always I’m impressed with your thoughtfulness in exactly how you approach very sensitive subjects. I especially appreciated your denouncement of victim blaming/shaming, and providing an example of how to approach behavioral changes that would benefit the victim in the future, without making the crimes that were committed against them, feel as if it were their fault.
Kristin and I used to play together when she lived in Yuba City. She was a beautiful soul who didn't deserve to be murdered. She was being a teenager! She was bright and full of life. She was killed by a predator. Women, never leave your girlfriends behind! Even with a trusted guy friend. You never know what can happen to them. I hope we find you someday Kristin. ❤ The police failed you my friend.
The others who left Kristin alone with this "chester the molestor" guy should have never even thought of doing that.
I agree with your analysis that Flores likely killed Smart. Unfortunately, Flores was given the opportunity to go back and cover his tracks several times over.
He had to of slipped up somewhere, he had to of. Somebody had to known of something and they're all not talking. This is such a sad story. Kristin deserves justice as well as her family. I have hope in this case, I still do.
Everyone in that area knows he did it and his family helped him cover it up. The local police bungled everything.
flores father was a cop....n youngster flores worked for cal poly in maintenance(?). go figure why the COVERUP.
humbly n w apology to the dear smart family....snowballs in hell theyre going to find that dear girls remains. too many pr problems for too many vested interests--the gov, cops n cal poly, the city too. mr good ole paul might do some time... maybe not. time served if he is in jail now. he may be thrown in a medical prison because of all the other rape victims from the bars....plus the missing girl from coca cola . he worked w her same shift different locations near each other. she was found thrown down a ravine. paul u may have made one too many mistakes ole boy.
oooo lord n the videos of women he had at his san pedro house. someone is going to maybe be pressured to tell where Ms Smarts remains are. then many will go to prison. i think Ruben holds the keys to the case. police, in this case, seem to be under that bluecode of silence. Ruben can sink this ship n a few others--if he n his son fry--others will go too.i could be wrong.
So much time passed too which sucked, law enforcement could’ve done a better job, hopefully there’s enough evidence to convict
Your Liar Playlist! I was folding laundry and I laughed so hard, I dropped my daughter’s clothing! Thank you, Doctor! Also, if he didn’t have a car, how did he hit his face on the steering wheel? 🤔
I went to college in Stockton Ca.
This was a huge case. Sad story.
Great analysis
I remember when this happened. People were acting like it was her fault for being drunk. They treated her like a cautionary tale to young girls. I’m so sorry her family never got justice
Born, raised, and living in the area this happened. Her posters are up to this day in some spots
Me too. My thing is just; shes not the only girl gone missing in our area. Cops got nothing but family has MONEY. That's why our system is so screwed.
Do you realize how much resource was used to investigate this perpetually while so many more are lost? Just a terrible cycle.😪
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@@ramelolivez63 Right?! Maybe he has hurt others as well. He as in Paul.
@@ramelolivez63 how many n what race r they?
Misogyny is one of the most prolific accomplices. Thank you for covering this!
Had to be “Little Lies” you cause me to laugh with your dry sense of humour. I have this same dry humour.
Love his catty and dry humor. Priceless and funny. Much appreciated.
William Wallace nope
You have a respectable name, sir. I wish you all the best :^)
Cases like this one i find to be really sad. No body, no crime and there is something eerie about not knowing what happened !
It is terribly sad and its frightening that there may be a murderer freely going about their business.
@@yes0r787 nope. Weve probably walked by several of them in our lifetime. I bet you didnt even notice me
Agreed
I wonder if they are looking at this case, again, now? Hopefully they have DNA.
It's so fitting you posted this - just today, suspect Paul Flores was arrested on a weapons charge!
No way!!! Thank you for sharing.
Thanks. Maybe they're looking into this cold case.
@@LDiamondz They said that the case wasn't cold, so I'm assuming that they have more evidence then they are telling.
@@ivyyoung521 Let's hope so.
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Saw that too..
I live on the central coast, have my whole life. I have heard it be called San 'Louie' Obispo...but never how you said it. I will now be calling it San Luis Opsipo from now on ☺️ I love it hehe
I’m from San Diego but have lived everywhere, currently Florida. I’ve known it as you do. Probably not changing. 😂
There is a restaurant chain in my area called Huhot. But, a bit of dyslexia has me calling it Hohut, like Ho Hut. I continue to call it that as it makes it all the more interesting.
Central coast? Is that in Ohio? I live on the east coast.
Lol l live in slo and I cringed but it’s a thing for us here , we know people aren’t gonna say it right
@@apatheticallylethargic4639 central coast for us is California
Justice delayed is justice denied. I trust your speculations Dr.Grande, they seem more like facts to me.
Speculations=Facts? Really? So if I speculate that every unsolved murder is the work of the Zodiac, is that factual?
@@anonymousperson3023 She only means it reasonably fits, and it does unlike your exaggerations made in self awareness. We all know speculation=/=facts.
"Justice delayed is justice denied" in an excellent summery of a poor process of investigation is a poor method of justice, even dangerous.
@@anonymousperson3023 omg, I am talking about how Dr.Grande's speculations seems well organized and logical. I didn't say speculations = facts. Every mystery solving begins with speculating what could have happened, some align with facts and some don't. In this case, Dr.Grande's speculations seem reliable.
@@Ignirium thanks for cleaning that up!
@@delleva9286 You did use the word 'speculations', so I figured you meant it that way. It is a plausible theory, too. 💞
It’s such a sad story for this young woman. If there was one thing I wish young people could understand is that being intoxicated leaves you so very vulnerable. It seems to me that predators would look for intoxicated people as easier prey.
They really do. You have to use the buddy system, and know your limits with alcohol, and never leave a friend alone. I’d also add stay far away from frat parties too, but that’s because the frats at my college were trash. One got shut down because they were covering for a member who repeatedly raped drunk girls at their parties. And that’s not even getting into the hazing.
YES! My friend who is a very sweet and insecure girl was once at a party with her friends and got drunk after some time. While looking for one of her friends, a random guy came and asked her who she was looking for. He told her he knew where her friend was and lead her away from the others and somewhere more dark. She was oblivious to his attempt and left as she didn't think her friend was there. It could've gone wrong in so many ways.
The problem isn’t intoxication... the problem is men who attack women.
DR. G is killin' with these upgrades (mic, plants, brick). I wouldn't want to be that appealing to females. Thank god I don't have his game.
His collar shirt game too
By now all college frat rows should have security CCTV systems all around and in it. It is very common for college students to get drunk on weekends, especially holiday ones. When I was young, I learned quickly not to get drunk. It was hard to get to sleep when your bed is spinning around. Just putting out one leg on the side of the bed did not stop the bed from spinning.
@@crochunter35 cringe
People at the party testified that she was not drinking heavily and she was not drunk when she got to the party. At the end of the party, she’s lying comatose on the front lawn. Paul Flores comes out of nowhere to escort her back to the dorm (she can barely walk) and insists that he can handle it alone. Paul then shows up with a blackeye and lies about it. On the podcast, a student working late in the library sees them struggling together in one of the dorm lobbies although this did not come out in trial. Later, there are numerous women who testify that he drugged and raped them. The pattern is clear. There might may not be a smoking gun in this case, but there are numerous pieces of evidence that when gathered together point to his guilt.
Thank you for covering this case from my hometown! I've followed it extensively!
Thank you Dr Grande. I have followed this case for years as I lived in San Luis Obispo when this happened but not a college student. Thank you for your commentary and timeline.
Thanks for bringing awareness of this case to others. If you want to hear more about it (much more!), there is a podcast dedicated to its details called: Your Own Backyard. But Dr. Grande, I had to giggle at the way you pronounced my town’s name!
Bingeing your videos and so glad you covered this case. I'm faculty at Cal Poly and glad that arrests were finally made. I see others have given you pointers on how SLO is pronounced :) On another note, my students in search of videos on calculating IRR using SPSS found yours! I couldn't adequately convey to them how surreal that was when they shared it with me.
Cal Poly really dropped the ball in this case. They had the nerve to be there at the press conference today after Paul and Ruben were arrested. I hope they find Kristin and give her family some peace. They deserve it.
la is finding body dumps....PLUS LA PD IS FBI ALL DAY EVERY DAY....
The daily morning alarm from the flowerbed is the stuff of nightmares. You would think someone would've been curious enough about that to investigate....
Here after Paul Flores was arrested. Justice will prevail!
Finally !!! This case has been haunting me.
Thank you for this video Dr Grande, I was not aware of this case! Great job!
I wanted to let everyone know, the jury is out for deliberation as of today. Meditating on a guilty verdict and JUSTICE FOR KRISTIN! 💜
So relieved to know that Kristin's killer has been convicted for her murder all those years ago. I pray he receives a Life sentence. Please Thank your Father for his help in getting some long overdue justice for the Smart Family 👪. Rest in peace Kristin❤
So much insight into true Justice. You speak the truth that so many of us need to hear.
I was summoned for jury duty in this case in Monterey county! Unfortunately, I had to request to be excused due to the nature that I am a full time student and employee. I wanted to be a part of that jury so bad.
Arrests have been made on this day 4-13-2021.
Justice almost completely served.
It's the dry humour for me, every time. 😍
Very good analysis.Thank you Dr. Grande.
“Would I lie to you honey?
Now would I say something that wasn't true?”
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I don't know how you do it, Dr Grande. Another interesting, informative, and entertaining video.
Thank you for bringing objective analysis into our lives. I often find myself listening to or watching your videos to bring some order to my somewhat chaotic world. (My immediate life is ok, but looking at the media or social media makes me feel like we have lost our minds)
Thank you for working so hard to keep your channel giving us quality content.
We pronounce San Luis Obispo as San Lewis Ohbispo
Yeah, it was a hard cringe when I heard him on that one.
Lol, I grew up in S.L.O. yeah, dr. Grande totally murdered that pronunciation 🤣
Police just arrested Paul Flores on weapons charge on Southern California today! Dr. Grande we invite you to come visit San Luis Obispo (a.k.a, San Louise Obispo, SLO Town, or San Luis Opsipo 😉)! You are always welcome! Keep these analysis coming!
POV: you’re watching this the day Paul Flores and his father were arrested; him got murder and father for accessory to murder. May everything come to light and closure brought soon. I’ve been following the case for 5 years
Thank you for this video, Dr. Grands. Watching this later, after the arrest of Paul Flores, and you were pointing things out before a lot of people were. We now know more of Flores’ other crimes and his propensity to drug victims… it’s even possible he drugged Kristin. So many reasons this investigation was unfair/inadequate for years. It took an amateur podcaster raising awareness for the police to finally take the steps needed.
A lot of people were willing to talk to Chris (the podcaster) that were not willing to talk to police. Major game changer!
Sometimes I'm drawn to the titles. This case reminded me of the movie Goodfellows where they hide a body and had to find another place to hide the body. But the problem I see was the lack of investigation with the police it was almost like they didn't care or they had no knowledge to investigate it more.
I am about the same age as Kristen and was also in college and a lifeguard at the time this happened. I felt such empathy toward her and her family. This case has always haunted me. I hope her family can find closure one day.
I remember seeing flyers about her missing around San Luis Obispo back then. During that time period, (give or take a year or so, I think) there were 2 more young women (also local college students II believe) who vanished from the SLO area, and seeing their flyers, too. I had lived in nearby Atascadero a few years earlier, then, and my daughter was little, and I found it extra chilling and disturbing, having my own child. As it came out, they found the bodies of 2 of the missing girls (Aundria Crawford and Rachel Newhouse) on the property of a parolee near Avila Beach named Rex Krebbs, who was convicted and sentenced to death. Kristen Smart was never found, but I'd always suspected the same killer of the other women might've also been responsible for her death... Funny comment about bumping his head to change the radio to maybe "Sweet Little Lies, "I Don't Believe You" or "Tell Me Lies".
Yes the case is extremely sad but as usual Dr. Grande did not fail to add pepper to his dish of dead pan humor! Lol
@@elanahammer1076 Yes he does!
San Luis Obispo is pronounced "san Lewis uh-bis-poh" by the locals :) And it's called "san Lewis" or SLO "slow" by the locals.
I hadn't heard about this case, thank you for presenting it
By your picture, I wonder if you were even born yet! It was in the mid-late 90's. But I'm mostly commenting cuz I like your name "PippetandPossum", so cute. And because I love possums!
@@cathylindeboom638 No, I was born in '97. But I lived about 30 minutes away from San Luis and would visit often. I remember seeing a billboard in a downtown somewhere about a missing girl from (I thought) the 80s. But I could be remembering wrong or it could be a different person. My childhood dog's name was Pippet and we named her daughter which we kept Possum. I love both opossums and possums, they're so cute
Well....as of yesterday Tuesday April 13 2021 He was arrested & charged with murder, his father was also arrested . 👏🏼🙏🇺🇸
Good...hopefully they bust that whole family for covering up for Flores!
Dr. Grande, you have gotten me through my time recovering from surgery. Thank you x3.
25 years later and one thing still hasn’t changed: girl + alcohol + fraternities = disaster and regrets. ☹️
“Just a few random songs that came to mind”. Thank you for the timely humor. This case is infuriating.
Thank you for doing this. I went to Lincoln High School with Kristin. What a tragedy :(
Thanks for the video DR.GRANDE,This world is a scary place,I love watching your videos they help me understand things a little better.
Aww, I love how you pronounced San Obispo. :) The sad thing is, is there is the Mojave desert three hours away that could easily hide the body till someone eventually finds it. The police moved so damn slow that he had time. We know he did it. This is such a frustrating case.
I thought it was cute how he pronounced san luis obisbo. Lol,
😂 Ah-BIS-po!!
Ugh. Another case of inept police work. Very sad. 💔 I do think there’s some bias towards being lax about investigation when it’s a woman who’s branded as drunk and “loose”. Interesting, as always. 💖👍🏼💖
Paul Flores and his father were arrested today-after twenty-five years...
All great songs Dr. G! 🖤
This case is crazy and upsetting.
What timing, Dr. Grande-- Paul Flores was arrested today on (unrelated) weapons charges.
🎶Just a few random songs that came to mind🎶 😂😂 Dr. Grande, you never disappoint 😂😂
1st comment i love the way you pronounced the city in California..... ok go on all ears dr.g
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0:49 San Luise Opsipo!
I swear I was thinking where the hell is that then I'm like ooooooooo. Had to pause the video to comment.
I YELLED OUT LOUD
Nooooooo
You know what natural and appropriate consequences would be for a young adult who drank too much and got flirty at a party? A hangover and an awkward encounter with one of the people they were flirting with once you both sober up. Maybe you stumble around the block with your hangover in full swing, looking for your right shoe, or you find that one of your friends wrote a swear word or drew reproductive organs on your face with a sharpie, and they all claim they don’t remember that happening. At absolute worst, you pee your pants. Murder is not an appropriate or natural consequence for something every young adult does at least once (ie: drink more than you should have at a social event), yet law enforcement acts like it is, for young women. ‘She knew it was dangerous for women to do that.’ Yeah, here’s the thing. We get conflicting messages about our safety our whole lives. We hear ‘don’t walk down the street at night,’ but then those same people turn around and say ‘I don’t get why you need a ride at 11pm for a mile walk. You’re being dramatic again’ when we ask for assistance getting home safe. When someone crosses a line with us or makes us uncomfortable we get told we are too mean for simply saying ‘I’m not interested’ or ‘no thank you’ to these creepy-seeming men when they ask us out. So we stop knowing whether or not we might be in danger. Then we get closer to our roommate, and she opens up about the time she did everything the world tells you will prevent you from getting assaulted, but still ended up being violently attacked by someone she knew for years, who told her ‘let me walk you home so you are safe.’ We stop trying to do the impossible task of pleasing everyone, and guessing what the hell we should or shouldn’t do to reason with an unstable and violent person who does not operate reasonably. We decide we want the same benign and normal experiences that guys have, and usually it works out fine, but once in a while it gets dangerously close to not working out for us. In some cases, it doesn’t work out for us at all, and our lives are ruined, if not over. We just couldn’t read the minds of every person at the party to see who was considering an act of violence. We couldn’t predict the future and avoid certain people. The common denominator isn’t anything the victim did. It’s always the violent predator, because nobody gets raped or murdered if there are no rapists or murderers around.
San Luis O bispo is how to pronounce the name of the city in California. But good try. As always I find you informative, relaxing and enjoying to watch.
I had to rewind and hear it again. I knew I heard Ob -see-poh when it’s pronounced oh-bees-poh
The only video actually delivering the straight dope without me spending a day going through the podcast. Every news video seems to leave the story at "last seen with" with zero context.
Gotta love Dr Grande ✌️
And his pastel shirt 🇬🇧
@@alimar0604 yes yes my friend 😁 🇬🇧
@@thomashassall96 😁🇬🇧
Thank you for your BIG ❤️💓❤️ HEART
Police dropped the ball badly in this case.
Astonishing the last person to see Kristen Smart didn’t have his room searched for 16 days after it had been cleaned.
Heart felt condolences to the Smart family♥️
I really enjoy the little quips you make. Definitely my flavour of humour.
Can we have an analysis of Scott Paul Beierle, the misogynist of the Tallahassee shooting.
I'm from Tallahassee and remember that well. I'd appreciate that analysis as well.
Oh-bis-po is how it's pronounced. Thanks for covering this. Walking home drunk from a party was common at Cal Poly as the town was small and the community and campus were relatively safe. Once they reached the dorms, the perceived level of danger was diminished, no one expects a student to murder someone in the dorms, but sadly that's what appeared to have happened. I'm positive the people walking her home wish they would have gone the extra last bit and got her to her room and never trusted Flores. Such a sad and horrible event. I'm thankful that it looks like finally there is some hope of justice taking place after all these years.
I'am starting too think if I didn't get a notification from Dr Grande, I would have too assume the WORLD had come too an end !!!!!!!! MAYBE I NEED TOO GET A LIFE ?????
Ok so I’m from Cali, one town over from stockton, and the way Dr. Grande pronounces San Luis Obispo is HILARIOUS.
Great vid btw just wondering if anyone else found that funny
Same he totally butchered the pronunciation of San Luis Obispo 😂 I go to pismo beach in SLO a lot so just hearing it pronounced that way was funny.
It’s pronounced oh BISS poe. It’s Spanish for “archbishop.”
That hurt my ears too.
I thought I was hearing him wrong. lol.
He just mixed up his "i" and "s" putting the i in front of the s.
@@moonstruck562 That he did. Bad psychologist! No biscuit!
SLO local too... had to comment with pronunciation myself.
Oh look at you! Paul Flores goes down. Finally.
Never let someone go home alone or with a stranger! I used to think this was unfair as we should feel safe doing so, but really if there is any intoxication you are not able to mind yourself as well.
There are also many apps that exist to be used while alone that will send out emergency messages if the user does not indicate they are safe!
Thank God they arrested Paul and DAD, Reuben 04-13-21 ...now it's time to arrest the Mom, she had to be involved, too...Let Justice Prevail for Kristin and Family. Go Jury!!!
At approximately the same time Rex Allen Krebs ( a sex offender on parole) was active in this area, although he wasn't paroled until 97. He was arrested for two abduction/rape/ murders that have some similarity to this case. It is reminiscent of the plot of Promising Young Woman.
Sounds like a lovely area. 🙁
@@LDiamondz Actually, it really is a lovely area. It's a very small city located in an area of abundant wilderness. However, it's a college town. Unfortunately kids away from adult supervision for the first time, perhaps overdoing it with experimental substance use, or living in substandard unsafe rentals or without reliable transport do become victims to these sorts of offenders.
@@evelynwaugh4053 I love SLO, I miss it over there so much. Lucky you! I got stuck in Fresno :(
Those cases are not similar at all. Other than the fact that the two girls Krebs tortured and murdered were college students. Rex Krebs wasn’t a student. Krebs sought out those poor young girls. It is crazy though to think it happened in SLO. I live 10 minutes west of Cal Poly.
@@DCBabos The similarities are : all victims are college students and all victims of opportunity. All were kidnapped, i.e. there is no known crime scene, they were removed to another location. And all bodies were hidden. Most sex crimes do not involve kidnapping, it is much riskier. If there is a murder, generally the victim's body is located at the crime scene, usually the street or victim's home. Body disposal often indicates a more sophisticated and experienced perpetrator. So these 3 crimes are actually quite similar. If Krebs wasn't in custody at the time, he would have been looked at for this one.
-little lies by Fleetwood Mac lol 😂🤣 Dr. Grande’s sense of humor is a vibe
Loving the new merch! Can’t deal with over a month for it to arrive though :(
San Louise Oppseebo! haha .. Dr Grande, youre so adorable! It's pronounced San Louis Oh-Biss-Boe haha! Love it!!
In my experience “Campus Police Departments” suffers a conflict of interest. They are in service to the University Administration first and foremost before the public and their main prerogative is to cultivate a show of security, when needed quickly quell situations that might make the school look unfavorably but most of the time traffic and parking enforcement. IMHO University Police should be allowed to focus on the latter and be absolved of any investigatory powers because their situation is inherently biased.
Great video as always, Dr. G. I like your plants and table, too.
Excellent analysis based on the totality of recorded facts! Based on your findings I would presume guilt as indicated!
I always look forward to seeing how the plants will be arranged. Oh and of course I enjoy Dr. Grande's analysis
I'm way late today, Dr. Grande pulled an "early bird special!"
I didnt even have a chance to procure a beverage! 🕓⬅️🍸❓🤷♂️
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That's the silver lining in this peculiar scheduling debacle!
I didnt turn my electronic device into a spittoon!
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@@erikparent8176 I try not to watch him when I'm drinking coffee. I spilled so much of it on my keyboard, it died. Had to get a new one. 😆
@@LDiamondz
Those are the pitfalls of watching Dr. Grande do his thing!🤣
Thanks for the videos Doc!!